Honda CBR250R vs 33bhp rivals

[@eolhovsky2003]

id take the honda 250 on any day. like the saying goes "It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow"

[@jeanbelmont123456]

After Watching this, I went out and bought a 2012 New Honda CBR 250R. The look of these young men and the so called reviewer, Convinced me that the Honda is the best of all of them.

[@mathuog]

😂😂

[@teenarajan8811]

Lmaooo. Does it still hold up?

[@paulbolton7143]

Ditto, these guys have convinced me to buy the Honda.

[@sameershaikh-bm3mr]

I bought this cbr 250 same color in 2023 second hand did some macanic works. Using this bike for 20 days engines become smooth milage 41km per liter. Overall good bike

[@funnyfailer99]

Restricting that gsxr is choking it a bit isn't it?

[@Johny40Se7en]

A bit? =P

[@michaeldavis2531]

I was going to say man… Isn’t that really choking it?? You’re going from about 125 horsepower for the stock GSX-R600, to a piddly 33 hp for the heavily restricted engine.

[@Crana]

I would pick the RS125 if I had the choice of those bikes, I love 2-strokes. I'm on my 33bhp license in the UK and I went with a Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM, it's over 33bhp (according to the log book) but I think it's a perfect step up from my old 125. Makes me feel sorry for people who jump straight on 600's, I prefer working my way up otherwise it's boring in my opinion.

[@donnydorito]

Am I missing something. How do you restrict a 125hp 600cc bike down to 33hp? And what would the purpose be? So you only have to buy one bike for each license?

[@Kain.92]

rs125 got the full power model registered as 11kw ;)

[@rickytube01]

@joshshoot what has the duke 125 and yamaha 125 got anything to do with a 33hp test? they only have around 15 hp

[@SleepyPanda-DougBurbidge]

I actually think that's a pretty cool idea. For me, as a rider who is just learning, it's an appealing thought that I could buy one bike that increases power as I increase skill. At least it's more economical than buying a low-power bike to learn, then selling it for a bigger bike later on.

[@TheSomeonedotcom1]

Having owned a full power RS125 for fours years if you are interested in buying one all I will say is this, yes they are awesome fun to ride, very light and nimble and they look good. However, they are very small (if you're big you won't fit very well), servicing is expensive and is required almost constantly, the speedo drive is poxy and breaks all the time, premium oil has to be used and they don't go well in the winter. That being said, own one for a summer and you will love it !

[@reddevil211287]

Which bike was the mop head dissin at the end there? I cudnt really figure it out with the wind noise....

[@OllyKilo]

Just get the gixxer and glue on a bullshit restrictor kit. That way if you stack it, it will still look like it had the kit on it, for insurance.

[@perolito83]

Depends on how you look at it, given the new driver's license limitations, many new riders (myself included) will weigh the options of getting a small (125-250cc) bike or getting a larger one and having it restricted, so it really isn't stupid at all from that point of view, I want to know what the pros and cons of each option are, and this comparison gives you a fair idea of that.

[@gabrielalbeldaochoa8234]

and insurance...

[@willsherriff3711]

Rs125 with a couple of tuning parts is over 30bhp easy

[@spidiq8]

Errm, yes they are! It's exactly what people do, the reason is, new riders not taking DAS or under 25 yrs old are restricted to 33bhp FOR 2 YRS! After this time they take off the restriction kit and use the full power of the bike. They didn't 'put a derestrictor' on the RS125, they de-restricted it to allow it to produce it's actual factory production BHP, (about 30 at the crank) In the UK learners can only ride 125 machine of 12 BHP or lower, so they're restricted before sale! Check your facts!

[@timekiller7020]

noway tht 1st guy is 19 he look 26

[@WiseFoolTrades]

+V4vivod R I know right! I'm 19 and if I trim what little facial hair I have and cut my long hair then I'll look like a guy from Year 10.

[@eurosceptic1]

As far as I am aware it is possible to do your A2 without doing the A1 so you could ride on a CBT until you are 19 then do the A2. In order for you to do the A without doing the A1 or A2 then you would need to be 24yrs old and do a DAS course which is a Direct access course If you were to do the A2 at 19 then you would be able to do the A test after two years. That's why minimum age you can get the A is 21. Hope that helps

[@ashleysawyer2695]

If it's carb'd, there are restrictor plates in-between the carb outlet and the intake on the engine which stops as much fuel and air getting in. FI bikes I think are done by throttle stops, or exhaust restriction. And the reason is exactly what you said =]

[@eurosceptic1]

2013 rules: 17 - 19yr olds - maximum 125cc 19 - 21yr olds - maximum not in cc but in power which is 35KW 47HP 21+ what you want The three licences will be A1 - 17-19 A2 - 19 -21 A - 21+ It's all a bit weird and complicated, a lot of people here don't know what is going on and what they have to do or when they can do it. It's very harsh compared to driving cars where you pass at 17 and can drive what you want providing you can get insurance for it

[@the_chomper]

i have a honda cbr250r and its great. comfortable, affordable and quick i have no problems with it.... then again im in america where im not limited by BHP on a bike and i still went with it over all the others. its fuel injected (unlike the ninja) gets great mpgs and handles very well. it seems these younger folks dont have much experience (clearly less than 2 years) to accurately judge any bikes at all.

[@microflex22]

I'm glad the States doesn't have new rider restrictions. That said scaled down bikes can be a lot of fun anyway. The cbr especially, light, nimble, low end torque.

[@TheDuerden]

I drew the conclusion that none of those guys have heard about lines through corners, vanishing points and have no idea what the apex of the corner is.

[@klrbiker]

Are the restrictors easy to remove? Or is that something not to talk about. Another option, Motard or Dual Purpose are close to the limit.

[@MrEminemrules92]

Thought ot was 47bhp after passing your big bike test? Correct me if im wrong

[@KhelderB]

since January 2013 but this was made before then!

[@rickytube01]

@joshshoot this test is about you passing your full test and being on a restriction period ... the aprilia rs125 has 26 to 30 hp depending on the year wich is way more than the yamha and duke 125

[@BurnRubberL12]

Im 17 and passed my test 6 months ago now and still on my Yamaha r125. I havnt got the money to get the Yamaha or the gsxr not to mention the insurance cost. But I don’t really want to ride a 80s 400 either. Not sure whether just to get a car and wait until my licence is full power then get a big bike.

[@sakisthefraud]

you should do a comparison between honda cbr 125, yamaha YZF-R125 and aprilia RS4 125.

[@webmasterhelpguide]

If you already have an A2 licence (33BHP restriction) In january will that restriction be raised to 47BHP or stay the same?

[@TychoCelchu]

The restricted 600cc machine makes a lot more sense than a purpose built 33bhp machine. As soon as the 2 year restriction is up, you'd replace the CBR250 with a bigger bike. With the 600cc machines, you just remove the restriction kit. 400cc machines of about 60-70bhp would be a much better limit and bring back the 400 class. They are probably the most fun that an inexperienced rider can have, whilst giving them a bike that has the power to overtake safely.

[@zerothrough2hero]

i ride a restricted sv650s k3, ive heard its one of the better bikes to restrict being a v twin engine meaning the power is delivered in the lower range of the RPM so the restricter doesnt REALLY touch it until about 50mph, ive managed to get 0-60 in roughly 5-6 seconds and thats with a learner rider (3.2 un-resticted) which is perfect for a learner on the twisties, (check out some videos on my channel!!) i would love to have a more sporty bike but all the powers at the top end (restricted end)

[@swimmerthon]

How would having an xj6 affect your insurance compared to having a normal 250 like a cbf (normal as I can think of) does anyone in the UK riding a restricted bike find themselves at any disadvantages? What are the pros and cons?

[@trav1sbickle]

I really agree with the 33hp limit for new riders. We don't have that here in the US, so you get idiots who buy a 1000cc superbike for their first bike and then get killed.

[@Le_Sourpuss]

I think this would depend on wether you like less comfortable lighter, less stable bikes that turn with the flick of the head or comfortable heavier more stable and bikes that take some more effort to turn. Also the XJ6, being a naked bike and, at the same time, a heavy big bore bike, is the most comfortable of them all, not only because of suspension and seat but because of the rider's position. The best choice for all round versatile riding. GSXR & Aprilia hav t least comfy riding position

[@spidiq8]

It's nothing to do with 'guess some people would rather do it' it's becuase of motorbike learner laws in the UK. If you're under 25 and pass your full test on a 125 you are restricted to a machine producing 33bhp or lower until you are 25 or for 2 years (if you take your test at say 24 yrs old) If you're over 25 you have an option of taking a restricted access test on a 125, above rules then apply or a Direct Access (DAS) test on a larger bike which then allows you to ride any capacity machine.

[@spidiq8]

Still missing the point. It's not about the cost comparison, you buy a 250 new, once restriction is up you're bored and want to sell it, you lose a stack in depreciation THEN have to fork out on the 600 you really wanted in the first instance, the whole point of this comparison as it's a widely debated topic here is Is a bike that naturally produces 33bhp better than one thats artifically restricted to 33bhp. i.e. buy the bigger one and get it derestricted or stand the loss on the small one!

[@333zack]

I drive a CBR250R for two years now and I'm happy with it. By the way I'm not a beginner and I drove a lot of powerful bikes. But at the age of 55 I don't need anymore a rocket for the jump to the moon.

[@A5h13yK]

i failed my test 2 days before the new law was brought was fuckin gutted the new system is a joke they say its all to do with safety but i think most of its to do with money aswell because if you pass your 125 you still have to sit the mods for the new restricted and direct access which almost £300 in the dsa pocket

[@bartom309]

You can still get a 33 bhp Aprilia or 26bhp Honda nsr 125 on a cbt

[@Antifaith29]

I owned a cbr 250, its was a 91, i loved the little bugger, pretty sure it had a bit more hp than the newer ones do and it sounded great, best sounding small bike ive heard to date. Its a real shame they dont make the cbr like they did from 89 ( i think) to 94.

[@--jay--]

You must have had the awesome CBR250RR that revved to 20K! very different bike with 4 cylinders rather than 1

[@mugget]

WTF?! a 33hp GSX-R600 - how in the hell do you manage that? Restrict it to 5,000rpm???

[@monomakes]

This is a bit strange as you can, basically, restrict any big bike, why choose only the XJ and GSXR? Top sound quality as usual!!!

[@shebbinho]

i have a suzuki bandit 650 s and i feel like because of the restriction to 34hp (germany) the motor has no power at all. its a perfect bike for beginners, good handling, very comfortable, good looking (even a bit sporty in my opinion, because of the S-version). i wonder if it is the same with the gsx-r und the yamaha xj6 in this test?

[@Mybwain]

Sometimes while travelling on a straight road I just about manage to touch the road with my knee while continuing on my way.

[@Hugo.Schreuder]

@Antifaith29 I agree with you 100% I also had one of the older ( '89 model) ones and it was a blast. I am however upset with Honda about the new 250 CBR.

[@grimsdyke]

Like he said..in their country you have to have a restrictor for a while(if it's a certain size). Like a learners permit for a car in the states.

[@lennonlegend504]

I get it and I'm not missing the point. But what I'm trying to argue is that the specs and the ride will probably be better on a bike that costs three times as the bike they are talking trash about. Yea, of course, if you plan on buying a bigger bike in the future, in the UK, then it might make sense to get the 600cc you want and you'll have the full power in a few years. This comparison would make more sense if they used all restricted 600cc bikes.

[@sicknwrong]

@elliotb92 thats a good point and in your own opinion, i just think that there will be no point in doing your test at all if you stick with a 125cc, you may as well just have a basic licence and ride on Ls.......the reason you pass your test is to ride bigger bikes, paying out £3000 for a 125 when you could buy a decent 600cc and restrict it is just madness. After all take the restrictor out when your not so scared and you have a new bike.

[@Antifaith29]

Ive been riding for a few years so its not really relivent for me, just curious as to weather or not once you have restricted the r6 if you can undo it at a later date. Would make sense if you could, save you spending too much when youre ready to step it up a bit. Sorry if its a stupid question , whilst ive been riding a while, my mechanical knowlege is limited at best , i know how to change my oil,air filters check and tighten my chain and thats about it lol.

[@amapolishplummer]

Can you ride on the motorway with a 125cc bike with the A1 licence. Also with the A1 will you have L plates and can you carry passengers?

[@thebigwarthog]

Yeah it's not too fair to compare them because the restricted bikes will have much more lower end torque than the 250 and afterwards you can derestrict them to get the full power. It would make much more sense to get a restricted bike if you're planning to get a bigger bike anyway, for those who might not want to move up at least not right away the 250 is a great choice.

[@KDD8]

he should be the guy that played the cop in 21'st jump street LOL

[@basikalmurah]

what limitation motorcycle licence for new holder in UK?In Malaysia,for new motorcycle licence holder,they must drive at most 250cc motorcycle and wait 2 years before they can upgrade their licence to B1 licence(600cc-below) or B licence(more 1000cc).But once again they have to retake another driving test for B1 or B only if they want to upgrade their licence..

[@MidnightMiata]

I'm guessing the XJ6 isn't sold in the US?

[@eurosceptic1]

If you do the A1 you can only ride a 125cc, the only difference to the CBT is you don't need L's and you can have a pillion. Whether that is worth it is down to the individual, I'd expect most to skip the A1 and just do the CBT until the A2 at 19

[@eurosceptic1]

No, because if you have to have your a1 for two years then you can take the A test. As such, if you do A2 at 19 you could take the A test at 21. The 24 yr old rule only applies to people who have no a2 licence So in theory you can have A1 @ 17 A2 @ 19 A @ 21 If no A2 you would have to wait until 24 to do A test (unrestricted)

[@rickytube01]

thats a very useful video its shown me all the different options of bike i can go for once i pass my test .... theres plenty of choice out there :)

[@KrisAlice_18]

600cc? You can't restricted, it's over 90hp

[@sdeary1]

thanks man appreciate it

[@KartingApexKing]

Also sports bike tend to be nicked more compared to naked bike, so if your after theft cover your insurance will be higher. All these things contribute to what insurance group each bike will be put in. Super sport are ranked higher in terms of risk so in a more expensive category. Complete opposite for naked bikes.

[@adrenalinjunkie1000]

Id recomend the fazer 600, i got a 54 plate 1 half faired and its a perfect machine loads of torque planty of revs to use, holds the road like shit to a blanket and is perfect for going round town and because of the torque in the engine it makes a good cruiser, just cant wait to get it round a track next :)

[@KrazerRacer]

the first guy did not look 19 lool

[@cassman1979]

Im intrested in buying my 1st bike but not sure what brand to buy or were to start. Im a total noob, I just love the looks of these types of bikes and would use it mostly for work and those days were ya just wanna ride. I dont know if I should get a cbr250 or just go with a cbr600 unsure if hieght and weight is a factor but if so 6'1 - 260 pds. or should I look into a something other then honda. Im looking for a quality bike, dont mind paying a bit more. please help

[@KartingApexKing]

An XJ6 is a naked bike. So it will cheaper to repair after a crash compared to a fully faired sports bike, as a result your insurance will be cheaper CBR's tend to be in more crashed due to the nature of the riders who ride them. So when it comes to calculating the risk, the risk for the CBR will be higher in terms of accidents compared to the XJ6 etc which as result will increase your premium.

[@canative1938]

Hi Guys, I guess my question would one want to purchase a a 600cc moto and choke it off to meet the British requirement? And on top of that the you would spend a lot more for the "600" in initial cost and no doubt a great deal more for fuel. I have owned all types of bikes, the last two were, a KLR 650e and now the CBR250r. I find the CBR so much fun to ride and light to ride. You may ask, "Why am I scaling down? The answer is that I'm 74 years young and find the Honda CRB250r fits my needs.

[@lllzooklll]

how do you get a gsxr 600 all the way down to 33hp??? take off 3 of the spark plug leads?!?!

[@MotorbikerTom]

gsxr 600 for a first bike restricted? good plan

[@ciaran4241]

No it doesn't. The new law is that at 17 you can only have a 125 bike for 2 years. So at 19 you take a test on a 400 bike, this allows you to have any bike as long as its restricted to 47bhp. However when the bike isn't restricted it can't be any bigger that 94bhp (so no r6 etc). So if you take the test at 19, you can then take the next test 2 years after at 21. This allows you to have any bike you want. If u don't take a test at 19, you wait until you're 24 to take the final test.

[@Krayje]

Thanks for the info, even if i do not pass before 2013 I will definitely have the A1 at 19 for 2 years, thanks alot

[@Le_Sourpuss]

the gsxr has a very different handling from the Aprilia. The Aprilia is a two stroke 125cc.The GSXR is a 600 may be light in terms of big bore bikes but compared to the Aprilia is an elephant. It handles well but it's very different as it takes considerably more effort. It's also more stable though. And the engines are also completely different. Being a 4stroke the GSXR has considerable engine braking, unlike the Aprilia. And the I imagine the acceleration is smoother on the restricted GSXR.

[@narcis12sicran]

i was wondering if it is possible to do your A2 without doing the A1. this is because i am thinking of riding on a CBT till i am 19,, also can i go and do the A without the A1 and A2 would be really helpful if you could let me know thanks.

[@Le_Sourpuss]

I almost forgot that the Aprilia is the only two stroke which means great soul but also lots of smoke, and consumption of oil besides gas

[@OBS3RVE]

Does anybody know if the car and motorcycle theory tests are the same or slightly different?....

[@WiseFoolTrades]

1:26 Who the hell does this guy think he is? He's leaning his body out like he's on the track haha

[@dredd1506]

so?

[@bigwillybiker]

@Azibiz 370 a year TPFT was 400 Fully comp but i didn't bother as the excess was also 400. I would highly recommend a bandit 600, get used to 33bhp then derestrict it. its freaken crazy!

[@elliotb92]

@sicknwrong its alot more powerful that most 125s its lighter cheaper cheaper to insure more economical several reasons mate also think about this, whats best? a big bike you're scared of every time you open up the throttle because you lack experience, or a small 125/250 where you can hammer it and make the bike work? i know what i'd choose plus, if your on a motorway, the aprilla is fast enough, if your in town/city you want an agile, light and nimble bike (at least to start with)

[@eurosceptic1]

If you've never passed a motorcycle test before you would need to be 24 to do the DAS and ride what you want but you will be able to take the A test once you have had the A1 for two years though, so if you take the A1 at 19 and pass you could take the A at 21. Hope that makes sense. A1 at 19, once held for 2 yrs (21) can take A, or gain A license at 24 through DAS course if you have no A1 license

[@grimsdyke]

actually they do..well kind of..insurance companies are slowly raising the premiums for bigger bikes to keep people off of them. So if you think about it, not far down the road, a newbie won't be able to afford something like a 1000cc. I looked into getting a CBR 1000, I have had 2 600's and a Ducati 748, when I got a quote for a 2012 1000..my jaw hit the floor. I even priced a 2012 600..still a ridiculous price to pay a year for insurance so..the restrictions are happening here in the States.

[@Ronno4691]

Looking at the Honda CBR250 at the 45 second mark and thinking how good it would look with a 1966 Batman TV Batbike paint job....

[@DanielLoveReel]

Good thing I have the freedom to kill myself on an outrageously powerful bike cause i'm 'Murikan!

[@SDrizzy]

lucky basterds

[@yutokinemi]

the cbr250r designed to get the 33 horse power limit? it´s only 26 hp. how can you compare such different bikes in engine construction and aims?

[@laktix]

Do ppl in Britan really keep the restrictions after they've bought the bike?

[@TheDEADBEEFCAFE]

Well, that's your opinion. The majority of the motorcycling press seems to disagree.

[@silence6210]

So European law says after you get your license you can only ride a 33hp bike? That sucks! Thank God for America!

[@joshshoot]

@rickytube01 but they are all starter bikes right??? the aprilia Rs125 has about the same HP as the other 125cc's that i mentioned, they should test them all, because this vid is about your first bike and thats very important.

[@jwhitt070]

would of been nice to see a comparison on the different engine sizes performance wise

[@AIBETTSYIA75]

If you do an A1 at 17 can you just ride a 125, it doesnt run out like a cbt. Pillion etc?

[@Laspher]

Gixxers the sexiest.. No idea what to get right now, rode a year on a CBR 125 and it's getting to the point where I just want more power.

[@montey1017]

4 days after I turned 16 I got to take an Aprilia RSV4 down the toll road. I didn't die, but a lot of people do.

[@bigwillybiker]

@ylism Newer bikes are restricted via the ECU however older bikes are either throttle stops or in the carbs (washers restricting the air flow i think...) the only way a bike can be tested for 33bhp properly is on a dyno ECU's are easy to change however washers in the carbs are slightly more advanced. don't complain though, so long as you don't go everywhere 100mph on the back wheel they will never know. my insurance didnt even want to see paper work!

[@grimsdyke]

Restrictions are already happening here in the States, it's just happening in the insurance companies rather than within the Government. That way, people can't hate on the Government, they just bitch at the insurance companies and are forced to either buy an older bike or a smaller one. And with the economy not being so great, they figure well, sales might still be good for bigger bikes, but the riders will pay for it through insurance. A brand new 600-1000cc sport bike is super high now.

[@333zack]

I've seen it a lot of times that beginners cannot handle a bigger bike properly. So instead of practicing they leave the bike in the garage. With a smaller bike you have an earlier feeling of success and those people continue riding their bikes.

[@sam_p792]

Getting a bigger bike restricted is the best option. You have better brakes tyres and road presence. Plus dont have to go through the effort of selling then buying another bike after 2 years. Plus you get used to lugging around a heavy bike

[@ciaran4241]

Right my friend, it sounds like you need educating about sensibility. You see, some beginners aren't able to handle the bigger bikes, (no offence to beginners as we all start somewhere) so that is why these bikes were made. Just appreciate that people are on 2 wheels. Biking isn't a competition, it is something everyone should enjoy. Also you might need to check the law because i'm quite sure 12 year olds aren't aloud ANY vehicle on the road. And the last thing, these aren't toys.

[@1100HondaCB]

Thank god at the age of 17 I passed my bike test (Oct 1997), put up with riding a not so desireable 125 for several years in order to avoid hefty insurance and now at the age of 33 can ride what ever without having to pay high insurance. Makes me laugh that TPO ins on a 125 at 17 cost me five times what fully comp on a three bike policy with a ZZR600 on it last year. Shocking how dear ins is for these young lads, but then experience has a lot to say in it. Some lads do ride like picks though.

[@webmasterhelpguide]

I was just hoping that because I have the A2 it would be "upgraded" next year!

[@JDNightFox]

And then after you tell the government you restricted the Gixxer, you take the restrictor off, add a turbo and an induction cowl, and boom! 33 HP is now 140 HP.

[@sanander]

Legally you can't have the Aprilia RS 125 (Full Power) as its power to weight ratio is 0.18kW/kg Quoted from gov.co.uk - "If you get the standard motorcycle licence you’ll be restricted for 2 years to riding bikes of up to 25kW power output and a power/weight ratio not exceeding 0.16kW/kg." How I worked it out? Aprilia RS 125 FP 28hp (20.88kW) 115kg 115/20.88 = 0.18kW/kg Sorry but I'm on a 33bhp licence and looked into it lol :) Cheers

[@zrimm15]

i closed this when you didn't have a new gen ninja 250, clearly the best beginners bike in existence.

[@jimnyfuchs]

I compared some restricted 600cc bikes with unrestricted 250cc bike and my choice was easy: I really like to flat out of the corners, weight is everything. I prefer less 10kg than plus 10HP. Driving the Autobahn is no pleasure, but thats not, what I own a bike for... In april my resctirctiontime expires, my 250cc will stay but I will add an old SR500 to drive straight forward for long trips. I doubt an 1000cc superbike being more fun than a WR250X!

[@elliotb92]

@sicknwrong completely agree im in the market for a 600cc now so i can get it restricted until i can get my full license where i live, motorcycles are ideal, and 125 is pleanty as the max speed is 50kph if i go on the motorway, i use the car. but when i move to england im considering getting a 600cc and just restricting it 250's are alot of money for a few years of riding

[@narcis12sicran]

Thanks for that it did help :D