Motorsport movies and the Le Mans 24H

[@potatogirlcultist19]

5:08 That has to be one of the most Enzo Ferrari things Enzo Ferrari has ever done.

[@rjung_ch]

That's why I am not a Ferrari fan.

[@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo]

I got into Endurance Racing in 2013 and I'm glad that I got into it, I hope to see this type of racing get more popular.

[@rofufoja]

I'm 30 years longer into endurance racing and it has had it's ups and downs in popularity over the years. I hope racing in the top class gets more competitive and a bit faster again. And a rise in popularity again, not only for Le Mans, would be nice. But, I hope it will never become as popular as for example F1 and turn into a gigantic corporate monster like that. Endurance racing should be for the real racing enthousiasts imo

[@effisjens1776]

0:15 very rare sighting of the SARD being on track.

[@AKK5I]

It sounds a bit cringe but I hope the Gran Turismo movie is okay, the trailers aren't too promising but the story of Jann Mardenborough and how he got a drive in LMP2 and the infamous GTR LM project was truly amazing and if it gets endurance racing more exposure I can't be against that.

[@jaigermeille3482]

Dat AC5 sortie music got me like “Stijn, what car should I use? We’re racing in this formation then? Race car, launch” 🤣

[@ridunkulous]

the Ace Combat soundtrack is just *chefskiss*

[@GP_Alessio15]

One other thing worth mentioning about McQueen's Le Mans movie is, as they were so dedicated to providing accurate 'race' footage, David Piper ended up losing his leg in an accident during filming. Piper was a period privateer and several of the cars loaned for the movie belonged to him, so naturally he was a driver in many of the scenes. Still continued racing up until very recently, despite his amputated leg.

[@stijnpaspont]

yeah in the 2015 documentary "Steve McQueen: The Man & Le Mans" he gets featured quite a bit. definitely recommend giving that a watch.

[@GP_Alessio15]

@@stijnpaspont didn't know it existed, will check it out

[@versedi]

Never heard of Michel Vaillant, going to watch rn

[@weesamexpress6730]

Please tell me if there is a download for the original dub

[@Ink_25]

The inclusion of that Mazda cup race finish at the end was the cherry on top of the cake. Very well done, great video! Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got some films to watch :D

[@jeracerx]

My favorite thing about the Michel Vaillant movie is the random ass 3rd gen Pontiac Firebird and Z32 300ZX pretending to be contemporary GT cars

[@stijnpaspont]

Same here. And they appear for such a short amount of time too

[@milfordh.mercado2787]

Aren't these cars a little outclassed for le mans even though it may have been needed for the movie as there's no way pontiac came to compete at all my friend anyway did you forgot i left a comment on this video so please check it out.

[@weesamexpress6730]

And it was shown spinning out... Twice

[@turbolemon1396]

That 2017 lmp2 rebelion was a comic reference head blown. I thought that vaillant was an sponsor or something

[@stijnpaspont]

The tower motorsports lmp2 entry for this year will also have a vaillant livery. The fictional brand has appeared at lemans several times

[@TugaAvenger]

They made a companion edition for that race, Rebellion. The cover has their car fighting a Porsche LMP1. Despite the sponsored car being an LMP2, that's exactly what wound up happening...

[@emdotrod]

Honestly, a great concept for an endurance racing adaptation can be a TV series in the same format as 24. A racing team trying to win Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, or Nurburgring 24 and tells its story by splitting it into hourly episodes. Might sounds boring but I believe It can work.

[@amaizeing.dumbass5123]

Doesn't sound boring, but does look like a nightmare to produce. Might need a bigger budget than Titanic or Avatar just for pre-production

[@Robintalesfighter]

The only issue with being a sportscar racing nerd and watching these movies is that you spot all the little mistakes. Like in the Gran Turismo trailer there's a shot where a GT4 car (Aston I believe) starts in the middle of a gt3 field and it annoys me SO MUCH.

[@Warehouse_Life]

Watching this with limited hours of sleep after Nurburgring 24hrs on the weekend

[@SetsunaTheFandom]

I actually enjoyed Michel Vaillant movie! Definitely an interesting take on Le Mans race which, despite its flaws, is enjoyable. Also to note: rallying is represented by this Japanese movie called Over Drive. Haven't been able to watch it but it's definitely on my bucket list. Not sure if there are more rally-themed movies out there but I can only name this one out.

[@thedon-e6514]

As an Aussie, none of Valliant media ever seems to get here! Two dudes running around ancient Gaul, you got it. Modern guy racing cars, forget about it!

[@xjserpent7665]

I love Porsche's 'Road to Le Mans' series. So well produced to a point where it makes 'Drive to Survive' seem meh.

[@follow_freeman]

As a filmmaker and racing enthusiast I've felt a disconnect in the big budget racing films (especially ford v ferrari) in leaving out or just making up a new story to tell for a general audience, instead of trying to bring out a story from a real racing event or circumstance. For example, the whole wrench subplot in ford v ferrari. It just didnt happen but was invented for the film to give us an emotional touch point to connect the characters. However in real life, something that the movie left out was the it was in fact Carol Shelbys idea to do the 3 way photo finish. And he always felt very guilty about that because it ended up costing Ken Miles his chance at the "Triple Crown", forever as he would die the next year. I find the true story much more interesting. Or the fact that every ford v8 that raced in the 66 lemans had already run a "test" race, hooked up to a dyno that would automatically shift and rev the engines to emulate the Le Mans course. They had in effect run a 24 hour race on a dyno, and THEN raced at le mans. Amazing! And probably the most American big budget example of how ford brought industrial might to combat ferraris bespoke perfectionism. But left out of the movie. I've personally been turning to club racing, like SCCA events and GLTC, because they are easily accessible and just as interesting to watch in my opinion. The speeds are slower, but you can actually meet the drivers at these events. I even filmed a documentary at the last GLTC event at Watkins Glen to try and add my work into the racing world and tell the stories of actual races. Lets hope we see more endurance racing content that doesn't feel the need to just clone Drive to Survive. Thanks for making this video to talk about media and racing.

[@stijnpaspont]

thanks! think the main problem ford vs ferrari has is that they somehow had to cram a several year long program and multiple 24h of le mans races into 2 hours and 30 minutes long movie format. that's simply impossible.

[@solracer66]

I was really upset that they were so lazy they didn't get the ending right in Ford v Ferrari, no #5 car dropping back at the last minute and most importantly no rain which just showed to me that the filmmakers didn't give a damn about replicating what is an iconic photo for those that know the real story. By the way the #5 car was offered for sale in Road & Track back in the early 1970s for $10,000!

[@follow_freeman]

@@stijnpaspont It's definitely not an easy job adapting history to a narrative film. I can see why they made the choices that they did, and they definitely create a fun space for Matt Damon and Christian Bale to act in, they were very fun to watch. I just know (as I'm sure most of us enthusiasts know) the real story and love it and want to see it told. What Ron Howard did with Apollo 13 I thought was a great example walking the line between historical reality and dramatic presentation.

[@hunteriggy2762]

​@stijnpaspont what is your thoughts on the gran turismo movie

[@royalfranz6124]

Showing a clip of The Wraith is a common W, underrated film. Also when you pointed out that the "It's a Ferrari" scene in Rush was actually filmed in Brands Hatch, I couldn't help but yell "Ha! I knew it!" because the part of the track Niki pulled over at looked so familiar to me when I first saw it.

[@Tminus89]

Ford v Ferrari and Rush were both great movies, loved them.

[@yanholliday8876]

michel vaillant is such a beautifully shot movie. story isn't great and it flopped hard, but man, it's downright *gorgeous* (trip-hop/post-rock band archive's soundtrack helps give it a very particular feel, too)

[@weesamexpress6730]

That movie introduced me to Le Mans.... It took me more than 9 years to know what real world model was the Vaillant car... It was the Lola B98/10 Which is still hard to find online

[@caledonianrailway1233]

Anyone know where I can watch it with subtitles?

[@Masgel_]

I enjoy watching these sorts of motorsport movies, even with the use of different tracks or cars. But I feel like the one category of motorsport that gets the least amount of movie love is rallying. I think the closest we got was Group B, and even that was a short movie, but still loved it.

[@juaja1]

the detail about Enzo Ferrari not borrowing the cars is so Enzo Ferrari that it made me chuckle

[@random_evo_guy9120]

Fr where can watch Michel Vaillant saw that movie when I was 9 I want to rewatch it as an Adult but don't know where

[@Heatwave24]

Huge props for using Ace combat 5 music :D

[@waty0usay1]

My parents bought the Michel Vaillant movie on DVD when it came out, loved it.

[@thatevlcanadian]

I hadn't even heard the Gran Turismo movie was 1) Being made at all and 2) Out in just a few months, what a whirlwind!

[@redradhako]

0:17 Michael Bay

[@andreysab3432]

I don't know if it's true or not but I've heard somewhere that Steve McQueen layed down in the middle of the mulsanne straight with a camera to film one of the shots

[@moka-chan2000]

I hope that rally racing gets some movies soon because it needs some love or soon it will die out as a high tier racing sport. Great video btw.

[@Thunderbolt857]

Michel Vaillant is a classic ! Very good movie , it worth a video of it

[@adr1uno638]

I love how the GT movie is somehow based on story of the GT academy Winner Jann Mardenborough, but they dished the Nissan GT-R LM NISMO like it never happened 😂

[@stijnpaspont]

yeah the Ligier is a better pick as that just works. unlike the GT-R.

[@lemonman8816]

great vid!

[@stijnpaspont]

thanks!

[@floydfanTN]

I do believe Auto Club also exist in something called the "Thirty Mile Zone" or the TMZ, which is something to do with Filming rules within LA.

[@内田ガネーシュ]

That Gran Turismo movie is pretty hot though! Looks great, feels great, and it a great real story! Can't wait~!

[@Goldengategobbler]

Very interesting stuff!

[@rjung_ch]

You point out exactly why I care not a bit about Ferrari. They are for snobs. Porsche are the true winners, even though they are an extremely expensive brand as well. Great compilation!

[@stepladder3257]

I like Porsche but I hate seeing people shit on Ferrari, yes their policies suck but I could argue why the F40 is a better driver's car than the 959

[@rjung_ch]

@@stepladder3257 don't be upset, it's what I feel and see. Look at the owners, they hardly drive them, it's mostly a show thing or investment, not a drivers car. The F50 may be even nicer than the F40.

[@floydfanTN]

If any era of Sports cars needs a movie it's 80s American Sports car racing.

[@stijnpaspont]

the fact they didnt make an imsa movie with paul newman as the protagonist is a crime against humanity.

[@AnandhuAs-h3e]

Hope a group b rally movie happen

[@GP_Alessio15]

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[@lorenz651]

I think there‘s a movie about audi vs. lancia currently being filmed in Italy with real cars and full pace rally stages, so be hyped!!!

[@Falcon_888]

Yeah but do we really want to get MSM attention into WEC? I like more motorsports fans but seeing the new F1 fans, I dont think it would be a good idea😅

[@Dexter037S4]

This. NASCAR suffered from it too.

[@atlantisfromtheinternet]

Most people who watched DTS wouldn’t pay attention long enough or care

[@barkyonyx962]

@@atlantisfromtheinternet God i hope they wouldnt indeed

[@stewartjmurray]

I really don’t want endurance racing to be popular in the way F1 is. It’s become toxic due to some of the DTS fans.

[@milfordh.mercado2787]

Well this is an unexpected video as i am a bit surprised to see you do a subject on motorsports at the movies with something bts facts is great job my friend so thanks and have nice day bye now.

[@Harrock]

I am going to Le Mans for the first time of my life … 960km from Germany to Le Mans xD my friend has a new Mercedes from his company they pay for the fuel 😂😂😂 Let’s Go … I want to Visit Monaco Classic Race and Formula on at Spa as well … I visited a lot of DTM in the past … Glorious V8 hmmm ! , Oschersleben,Hockenheim,Lausitzring,Assen and Zandvoort

[@pelayorico]

yeah ok.

[@OctavChelaru]

Subbed, brillant video, food luck with views! ❤

[@supersimon126]

Here's to waiting for a movie about Tom Kristensen and his endurance racing career

[@cartoonfan959]

if you plan for BIKE movies, Race For Glory (1989) is a good one and Space Riders (1984) with Barry Sheene

[@anaveragejoehanginground]

1stly: your content is pretty good going into the hidden history of motorsport and i like that. 2ndly: which i wanted to know what is this music you use it's out of youtube or there is link vids? Edit just found out in the comments it is ace combat. Anyone with the links?

[@nomiguda]

A shame the GT-40 that was used for production purposes (not on screen, the camera car) was "fixed".

[@OptomusPrime666]

RUSH was the best of them

[@caledonianrailway1233]

Did the French film ever get an English version?

[@Yoshiman2024]

The DVD does have English dubbing and subtitles. At least the one sold in the BeNeLux.

[@nascarnational]

there's apparently a days of thunder sequel in the planning stages so gran turismo & the brad pitt f1 films are right on its heels!! if that actually is a nascar movie & sequel that's being released then i'm most definitely supporting it! so glad all the major branches in motorsport have been getting love in the mainstream!!

[@sporkybutterz]

I'm ok with new fans just not the toxic ones that surround F1.

[@TugaAvenger]

You're being a toxic fan right now.

[@Chasta1n42]

I'm unreasonably happy I got the 69th like

[@stijnpaspont]

the only like that actually matters.

[@willypro4949]

I mean in the case of the Gran Turismo movie is understandable because thats the ethos and meta of the franchise Like in GT4 when I beat LMP1 with a Daihatsu Midget II 🗿🗿

[@TheTotallyRealXiJinping]

Saying American open wheel has Driven is like saying anything after Fast and Furious 4 is good. You’re just objectively wrong

[@RacingAtHome]

Yeah. A great film concept could just be called Bump Day. Instead taking the Saavedra 2010 story of being bumped into the field.

[@Powertampa]

F1 is boring as hell, wrestling is more interesting and that's saying something.

[@roberthill2219]

Ford vs Ferrari is terrible... please...

[@thesourceofthenile]

The racing scenes were really bad making the cars look like they were going 500kph through corners, but as a movie it was fantastic and proved to have really good drama, pacing, and character development.

[@matternot666]

i liked it, maybe not accurate but good watch

[@mudahjr9600]

is it inaccurate? sure, but the story line and as a movie, the movie is absolutely solid

[@roberthill2219]

@@mudahjr9600 So you think Shelby and Miles really actually behaved like that? Throwing wrenches and fist fights in the street? Disgusting.

[@Dexter037S4]

@@roberthill2219 Shelby was a hot head at the best of times, Miles was the soft spoken one of that team.