My Fallout 4 Load Order on Xbox (Post Next Gen Update) (Read Description)

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Hey everyone! Took a bit longer to get this video done.... cause I was playing Fallout. Thought it was weird that I said I wanted to start off 'small' but ended up getting close to 2GB anyway 🤣Let me know if you have any questions!

[@SteveAustin_6M]

Matt have you been having any stuttering or hitching issues after this last update? I have and I’ve read it could be from the unofficial patch, changing a faction’s appearance and weapons. I’m going to try another play through without those mods and see how the game plays on series X.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@ConantheTrollarian if you have the gamepass version then you need to be online to play with mods, I believe.

[@Dread_devil12]

It looks really good and it runs smoothly on my xbox one

[@urpapa1015]

REMINDER: Always restart your console to get rid of any unnecessary cache!

[@sean236]

@@urpapa1015 just a basic reset?

[@therealav77]

Matt I gotta say it.. Iv been watching your mod reviews/load orders for Skyrim/fallout for YEARS now. Iv went through multiple playthrough (even taking breaks from video games and having life happen) and have always loved your content and your mod suggestions. So when I was done redownloading fallout 4 this morning (after taking a long break from gaming) I couldn’t not crack a smile seeing you have a new list ready for me. So cheers man. Thanks for all the hard work you do. You keep people like me coming back and replaying these great games.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@therealav77 aww thanks 🙏 Happy that these videos always find their way to those that appreciate them. I need to get back to the Wasteland at some point this year.

[@therealav77]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger always man! Your content is amazing and deserves the views. can we get a new 2024 complete mod order list compile for fallout 4? Or even Skyrim. I always seem to love your mod orders

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@therealav77 I just made one for Skyrim a couple weeks back. I'd imagine I'd get back to Fallout soon. Got several videos planned but I'm sure I'll be back there before the year is out to see whats up.

[@aleksandrnowak8020]

getting me ready for October ;) thanks mate

[@dabi213]

Trying this list out right now with a couple additions of my own and its going good though i did have to move the attachment pack as the 10mm and combat shotgun parts were bugged so i just moved it above the 10mm mods and right below the Thompson smg and it fixed it. Saying this incase anyone else had the same problem

[@mikethegamr]

this load order made me get back into fallout once again ive used like two of ur olds ones n i honestly think this one is the most smooth n i like how u had added some tactical mods i love the immersive gameplay

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

It's been a lot of fun replaying the game with all of these.

[@mikethegamr]

@@Matt_the_TechRangerhey ive been using ur recent load order n for sum reason theres a lot of shadow under my characters neck like its rlly dark and in some areas the necks will look kind of black any idea on why this is?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@mikethegamr Have you had mods before that affected the player character? Did you start a new save? There's nothing in the list that affects the player character. Maybe try a hard reset.

[@odst_stone]

I recently downloaded the "America Rising 2" mod, I highly recommend it to those who haven't tried it out yet. Defiantly worth the download 👍

[@andbrands]

I am using it with my new run post next gen patch and I also recommend. It is very well done!

[@user-dv3zd1xy3d]

i love skyrim and fallout, and whenever i revisit and start a new playthrough i always check out your channel for the mods on xbox. Thanks for your awesome content Matt, keep up the good work!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

🙏

[@CesarHernandez-wc9lh]

Hey Matt I just wanna say you are great, your mod load order in your description work great. They work great on my series s, which is not as great as the series x but still that's awesome. 👍

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

🫡 Thank you Cesar. Glad everything is working out.

[@zanderdewar3422]

Thank you TechRanger! Let's go!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Basically what I was telling myself this morning when the video wasn't done yet 😅

[@zanderdewar3422]

🤣

[@Gargamel419]

I was waiting for this thanks matt 🙏

[@billylewis4124]

Hey Man, I love the load order and how true to vanilla it is! I have one question about LO tips, where would Full Dialogue Interface and Start Me Up - Normal Dialogue Prompts go in this LO? Do they work in the current Next-Gen update? Thanks!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Haven't used that since but that stuff usually goes at the top since they are Fast start/master files

[@jessepinkman196]

I have a question, unless I am just reading the descriptions wrong and not understanding Why do you have a combat rifle remesh, and then a mod that replaces the combat rifle with WM's service rifle?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

lol thanks. I misread it for Assault Rifle. Assumed it worked cause I loaded a save with a Combat Rifle on my character 😂 Now I’m torn cause I like both. I’ll amend the spreadsheet.

[@terrencesproulls7184]

New patch is live and they seem to have fixed the mod space bug (now I grab these mods for my series s)😁

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I also had some ghost space and I think it fixed that too 🤣 I'll have an update video this cause there are some more things.

[@RedemptionArc2024]

Great load order up there with your Skyrim L.O. thanks

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

🙏 Thanks! About 20 hours in so far. Been a while since I did a full playthrough but it's been a blast.

[@LostInDistance]

A Touch Of Life - Complete. You’ll like that one. 👍🏼

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

That does sound cool. Seems like it combines a lot of stuff I use.

[@LostInDistance]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Exactly. Enjoy!

[@pizzatime8246]

What would it combine

[@ryanriley8800]

I heard vehicle overhaul breaks precombines js incase you get crashes or stutters in Boston

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I’ll check that out this week and update the spreadsheet/description if needed. It seems like the Reddit narrowed it down to character overhauls so I’ll make a dupe save, disable that and those character overhauls and see if that changes anything.

[@BigDaddyDelliott]

It’s been hard trying to pick what lighting mod is the best on Xbox. I keep restarting every like hour because I feel like I could find a better one lol

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I feel you on that. I tried out Lightweight Lighting again but it was still dipping a bit much for my liking.

[@BigDaddyDelliott]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger I settled on realistic lighting by green thumb and interiors enhanced

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@BigDaddyDelliott Realistic lighting also alters interiors, right? I'm surprised you haven't crashed.

[@BigDaddyDelliott]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Yeah I thought so too. But it’s been working. It crashes rarely but it does. Just not often. It also lets me reload where I crashed and it’s fine. It’s hard to find a good mod for interiors only and exterior only. But with these two mods combined it is EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for. It’s almost perfect.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@BigDaddyDelliott Verrrrrry interesting. Props to you for trying it out!

[@BrogulWatcher]

Awesome load order 👍

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@BrogulWatcher 🙏 Thank you!

[@ChaosdiverH4]

Camera Presets is out of place on spreadsheet As well As: * Radium * Everything Except Weapons And Armor Is Weightless (Xbox One) * Imperial Brotherhood

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Yea I'll move that around as I do in-game so that can change

[@Staticseven]

Best gaming channel on youtube! Thank you good sir 👍

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Dang I need to put this on my fridge 🤣 Thank you!

[@Alt-xj2tu]

I would really appreciate it if you added some segments to the spreadsheet to allow us to add on to your list without breaking the game. Hope that's not a hassle.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

You can add rows if you make a copy of the sheet. I’m not really into specific sections per se. Mainly since I run into a lot of mods that contradict categories and need to be placed in a different spot. I believe oddlittleturtle has the Load Order Survival Guide that has a categorized spreadsheet though. I may name some updates to it with that said 😂

[@ChaosdiverH4]

Quick question, what difficulty do you recommend with this LO? Otherly: Do you think removing High settings could help Perfomance on series S?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I just play on Normal 😅

[@ChrisLR2]

Wondering is it best to enable all mods before you click new game, so this will be before you even get to character creation? I've heard some mixed All I have downloaded are mods you've recommended, Vivid Weathers, Phylight & dark, Vivid Fallout AIO & Langleys HD textures and some other texture mods & the Realistic Sound XB1 mod. Thanks

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Should be fine 👍 For a mod like Vivid Weathers, you just won’t have access to the holograph to control that until you get your pipboy.

[@ChrisLR2]

​​@@Matt_the_TechRanger ok thank you, good to hear. Once I enable them all, I will quit the game properly and do a Xbox reset to be sure everything is ok

[@brianward6291]

Generally, when you apply a new load order, is starting a new charecter required? Additionally, I'm assuming that if I setup a new mod list then load a current save, then the game crashes, the only way my older save spots will work is if I recreate the original mod list that older save was played on? (instead of a the new mod list)

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Not necessarily. It’s always best to start fresh but you can always try it on an existing character. If you try to load a bunch of new mods on a save that already has different mods then the game will crash but it’s not the end of the world. If it keeps doing it then that means it’s not going to work most likely. You can try a different save on the character and see how it goes. Usually it’s the quick saves and auto saves that get corrupted. Just don’t delete too many older saves on your character just in case.

[@tonymetzger6769]

One thing iv noticed and from what iv seen is a cosmetic bug if you use a underwear replacer it messes with gun models cbbe works alone with them but changing the cave underwear itself causes it I know you don't use much it that regards but to anyone using it just a fyi

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

That is an interesting discovery, Tony 😅

[@Nosboe]

Thank you !! You are the boss

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Happy modding!

[@Grimmsterboy]

I just wish DEF_Ui worked, I cant stand that vanilla hud lol also is classic ghouls working for you? do i need to start a new game for it? thanks

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Same. You can use that on an existing save. You might want to make sure you’re not loading a save by a bunch of ghouls though, just in case. Make an extra save an try it.

[@MuStYkAtT666]

I love your load order except vivid fallout don't care about graphics like most but I have a question if I can fit it in by not adding certain things where would you recommend putting America rising 2, the institute weapon overhaul and south of the sea

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Thanks! You can use whatever, I know I tend to go the graphics route a lot. Especially with Skyrim 😅 Quest mods go towards the top. Weapon overhauls just need to be placed under stuff that the overhaul might edit. So if you have other mods that touch the institute, place it under. Where I have the weapons in my list right now is probably where I’d put it

[@MuStYkAtT666]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger thanks for the fast reply gonna see if I can get all three to fit within this order but that's wishful thinking their all so big lol

[@MuStYkAtT666]

Finally tried out the LO and I am super impressed all i ended up adding was everyone's favorite companion for dog meat amazing follower tweaks and the wattz laser rifle and it's my new fav LO

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@MuStYkAtT666 glad you liked it! I’m about 23 hrs in after the power session last night. I found a mod that lessens the chance of vertibirds spawning. That seems to cause some frame drops so that has helped. I’ll add it to the spreadsheet later.

[@MrElsantos69]

I dunno, wouldn’t it be wiser to wait until issues with next gen update are fixed before even thinking about making a new mod list? You know, quality mode actually working so you can build on that, script extender working so you can actually use game changing mods. This feels like a bit too early, in order to capitalize on the momentum Fallout is having due to the series. Wouldn’t wanna start a new save to then have to start again in a few weeks…

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Script Extender isn’t on Xbox

[@MrElsantos69]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger OK, my example being wrong does not change the meaning of what I said. As you can see, now there's gonna be another patch, so what is the point in starting a new gameplay with a new load order when, after a few days you'll have to do it all over again? It's a game that can easily take hundreds of hours, wouldn't it be better to wait until eveything's fixed and settled before starting a new playthrough? I am saying it as someone who always used your load orders both for Skyrim and Fallout: instead of rushing to start a playthrough with temporary stuff, I'd rather wait for a load order based on the game 'final' update rather than having to reset and restart again and again...

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@MrElsantos69 you can wait to install stuff, it’s ok 👍 I said as much in the video I made for the Update. The main issues have to do with Bethesda.net. There can be issues with mods regardless of any game updates and that will continue to be the case. I’ve been putting that disclaimer in every load order video for years. A lot of people don’t even see the one when they go to the mod menu 😅

[@ltskully2376]

Hey ik its been a bit since ya made the video but if ya could help that would be great. I followed ya load order but now ingame my 'furniture' section at settlements is gone. Is there a fix?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@ltskully2376 I don’t really use the Settlement system much unless I need to make a bed. I was able to do that after the update. If you installed something that adds items like that or changes Settlements then I could see that causing an issue. I don’t use mods like that though 🤷‍♂️ If you’ve used stuff like that on the save you’re using then maybe it’s lingering data. Have you tried a new character?

[@onetimebear5681]

Anybody else getting the beds acting as sleeping bags bug?

[@bruh-ge4pe]

Where do you put AI/ NPC mods and Music and Audio mods at?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@bruh-ge4pe anything that edits NPCS/AI right now will cause performance issues, unless updated, so I’d probably stay away. I usually put audio stuff towards the top where I have mine in this list. Like with anything, read mod descriptions too just in case there are other instructions.

[@JonnasFhorsel]

Hello, first of all, thank you for sharing this list with the community! Question: Does it work well on Xbox series s? greetings from Argentina

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

All mods are made for Xbox One so I’d imagine it would be fine. You can pick and choose what you’d like to use 👍 The last mod may not be necessary since the new patch on Monday might address that.

[@pervytoast4634]

Do you know if the laser rifle/ institute remeshes work with the attachment pack?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Should. I would probably place it before the Attachment pack like I did just in case.

[@zanderdewar3422]

What are your presets for the tactical 3rd person and 3rd person ads?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I just use that animation mod that I have (requires in-game third person camera configuration) and I also have the Camera Presets mod. I like to use the Life Is Strange or Mika999 presets but Default looks good with the animations. Better Camera 2 is also awesome for thumbnails but maybe that’s just me 😅

[@zanderdewar3422]

Ah ok cool, is there a way to change the snap back to center das camera. When my charter doesn't move, the camera snaps back to center. Essentially right behind the character.

[@terrencesproulls7184]

Has Bethesda address the issue regarding mods for console players i hope there's a fix/patch coming this month

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Through their help articles, they mentioned there is a future update with fixes.

[@mikethegamr]

i have a question why dont yu ever use the unofficial fallout 4 mod patch above all the mods im just curious do i need it or no im getting into fallout 4 once again

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

It has a ton of “fixes” that might end up causing issues. It was also causing more stuttering and freezing after the update on top of some of the issues people were dealing with.

[@mikethegamr]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger ty so i should not put it in my load order i use the exact same one as urs

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@mikethegamr I wouldn't use it 🤷‍♂

[@Bennnnnnnnnnnnji]

Were would i put a character preset in this list?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I'd probably put it above any character mods. But then again, I'm not sure it would matter if you don't have any. Like with anything, if a mod mentions placement then I'd follow that.

[@kanasas2]

I have always had trouble finding the in game third person camera configuration on Xbox search bar any tip to how is should search for it . All the 3rd person animations pop up but not that mod 😂😂

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@kanasas2 you can favorite the mod from the link also. Just type in a few words and scroll. “In-game third”

[@rnigro7]

Hey im new on fallout... Im playing on xbox and indont understand why we need to "order" the mods.. whats the reason?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

If you install mods out of order then your game can crash. If it’s really out of order then your save can get corrupted. Think of it like having a ton of programs opening at once. That’s a heavy load on your computer which might crash one or two. Similar thing here.

[@TheGoodGuy67]

Can you plz tell me where America Rising 2 would go in the List?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Haven't used that one yet but I played the first one. You'd probably want it high in your list with the patches under it (if it doesn't automatically go up there). If you use something like the Unofficial Patch, you'd want to load after.

[@TheGoodGuy67]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger ok thanks man

[@TheJudgementofDog]

On xbox it automatically sets itself near the top of the load order.

[@mattstone9364]

Just clicked on the video but I hope you explain how you even got the mods to work post update because I can’t even “log in” to the mod section on Xbox

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I cleared my Reserved Space 👍kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGiZe4Gcebl7hqMsi=Mwz7aiDZFcyEsYGo&t=232

[@mattstone9364]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger I did that as well and it didn’t help at all. Still can’t connect to the mods place and shows all the ones I had as deleted.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@mattstone9364 You can try relinking your Bethesda account on the website: bethesda.net/en/account/linked-accounts It may help. Uninstalling the game and doing a hard reset might also help since it'll clear your system cache.

[@mattstone9364]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger ok thank you for the help!!

[@shysintendo648]

There's a number of mods that will make you exit to main menu if you view the mod page. Having these installed prevents you from logging in. Had to delete my reserved space. Luckily I knew which mod was the culprit and the removed it from my library on Bethesdas website.

[@joshuawalker8172]

YEEEEAAAHHHH BOIIIIII !!!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Coming in HOT

[@CountlessCA]

Whats wrong with the overseers guardian? its completely bugged out for me

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Bugged how?

[@CountlessCA]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger the gun texture is messed up in hand/pipboy. if u have a discord i can show you

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@CountlessCA I have a combat rifle texture in my list but that doesn't seem to affect any other legendary combat rifles I've found so far. You might want to submit a ticket to Bethesda and attach that image.

[@CountlessCA]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger its mostly the barrel. its not connected to the gun and is floating higher than the scope

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@CountlessCA Could be something to do with The Attachment Pack if you're using that. I noticed that when adding mods to weapons at the workbench but never actually used any so I figured it was just a visual thing at the workench.

[@nicovilla5140]

How do you fix the 0 byte bug for x box. Tried reinstall and nothing so far

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

It’s an issue with the servers. I went over it in the next gen update video. Have you tried installing any mods?

[@nicovilla5140]

@Matt_the_TechRanger I haven't afterthe reinstall. Prior to it it told me there was no space. After cleaning it deleting reserve space.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@nicovilla5140 try downloading something. ‘Space Remaining’ is glitched.

[@kidk4rma942]

How are you at - space available is there a workaround for that

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

What do you mean by that? Are you not able to use the 2GB? You may have Ghost Space: kzbin.infoCEoV101hA88

[@zanderdewar3422]

Have you witnessed any crashes with elfx?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

No it seemed like those crash areas were just really frame-y. Like it would be inconsistent.. maybe somewhere between 40 and 50fps.

[@zanderdewar3422]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger ah, gotcha. Thank you. Load order is awesome btw.

[@mikethegamr]

and also how do i get my third person fov too look like yours

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYq3d6OKiJmhiZo

[@ChaosdiverH4]

Fuck Yeah! Love you man!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Your comment got blocked by the filter so I just saw this. Thank you!

[@Bread-w4n]

Anyway to use these mods without having any dlc ?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Bread-w4n most don’t. You’d have to look at the mod pages before downloading.

[@Bread-w4n]

It seems a lot of the mods I want on the mod load list keep wanting specific files that aren’t present

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Bread-w4n some may rely on other mods to work. I have all the the DLC so it isn’t something that would stop me from downloading mods. If you have examples then I can look but I don’t know all dependancies off the top of my head 😂

[@TheBallsMuncher]

anyone know why spiffs mods are gone?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

No idea. Someone mentioned to me on the Bethesda Discord that he usually takes mods down and re-uploads when finished working on an update. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if he knew it would keep people out of the mod menu, though 😅

[@brunogt1982]

Sucks mods disable all achievements definitely not for me 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

There could be more Creation Club stuff coming in the future outside of the free ones with the update. That stuff is considered DLC so it wouldn't disable achievements on ya.. if you wanted new stuff. Its just kind of limited.

[@cringeman4199]

Some of these aren't installing because it relies on files?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Some mods need others to work (I.e HUD Framework is needed for the UI mods) and some require DLC.

[@cringeman4199]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger oh ok, thanks

[@cringeman4199]

​@@Matt_the_TechRanger I figured it out! I just needed to install the attachment pack first, great LO

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@cringeman4199 oh yea i think that’s a requirement for the F4NV weapon mod. Another thing I ended up doing was removing Dan’s Combat Rifle mod since I had the Service Rifle replacer. You can use one of the other 👍 Thanks!

[@WatermelonDog512]

Mods are working again now?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I cleared my Reserved Space and that worked for me. I wanted to start a new save anyway.

[@WatermelonDog512]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Oooh, yesss, that's what i tried to do, i deleted it, but then when i opened the game it filled up to 2gb again by itself (the reserved space)

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@WatermelonDog512 Yea it creates a new partition of 2GB when you open the game the next time. Doesn't mean it's filled up.

[@WatermelonDog512]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Ooh, then I don't know what's going wrong 🤨 I'll try to install my mods back again on saturday when i come back from my trip

[@simonlaing6200]

What about settlement mods

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

What about them? Placement? I don’t use them but those are mods that make big changes so that means they should go high in the list. As with anything, read mod descriptions in case there are instructions. For something like Sim Settlements, the mod author has a whole website setup for the mod.

[@simonlaing6200]

​@@Matt_the_TechRangerIt's good mate love the list using the mod list minus third person stuff and few others to put in home-maker and s.c.a.p. plus smm just trying to find a balance of looks, game play (or rp) and base building and chose this set.

[@BigBossSZ05]

Vivid fallout 1k causes my game to crash on series s

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

That shouldn’t be causing crashes. Could be another mod you installed?

[@BigBossSZ05]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger nope tested it, just used vivid fallout in lo and it still crashed, got any solutions

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@BigBossSZ05 have you used other mods in the past? Like the Unofficial patch on that save?

[@BigBossSZ05]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger it's a fresh save, the save is base vanilla game with added mods, the mod I added to see if it worked was vivid however it crashes when loading a save into Boston

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@BigBossSZ05 that’s news to me 🤷‍♂️ you could try a hard reset to clear your console’s cache. Maybe a fresh install if you’re still crashing.

[@MisledVision]

Where would Sim Settlements go in tbis list?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I've not used it but that's a master file so that goes at the top. So since you need the Workshop Framework, you put that on top and Sim under it.. simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/xbox-installation-and-update-instructions.15574/