Jeremy Clarkson takes a look at the Nissan Skyline R33 GTR before they were officially imported into the U.K. Taken from a mid 1996 edition of Top Gear.
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@ayrtonm7907 Жыл бұрын
I love how the old bland plastic interior in this car now costs more than a new born baby.
@davencherry845 Жыл бұрын
Why I bought 1 before pandemic
@HHH-tz4gc Жыл бұрын
Plandemic
@jamesfirth6891 Жыл бұрын
@@davencherry845same
@CraigMocello-nn3rj9 ай бұрын
How much are you paying for babies?
@mattf20c279 ай бұрын
@@CraigMocello-nn3rjit's not the up front cost, but the ongoing costs that get you...
@bghoody5665 Жыл бұрын
Considering how much Clarkson adored the 355, for the GT-R to compare so favourably is pretty high praise.
@farishanafiah8461 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson has always been impressed with the GT-R's engineering. It's the styling that he really don't like.
@jingorooroad25599 ай бұрын
@@farishanafiah8461 He even demolished is neck when presenting the R35 directly in Japan.
@G59METH9 ай бұрын
@@jingorooroad2559 the R35 is pretty ugly if you ask me
@jingorooroad25599 ай бұрын
@@G59METH Nobody was asking you btw.
@G59METH9 ай бұрын
@@jingorooroad2559 I was
@gazman94689 ай бұрын
Clarkson was ahead of his time thinking Nissan should have brought the GT-R over. Considering the huge success the R35 was when they finally brought it over you can't help wondering how many other cars that boring accountant types like Mr Ward here prevented Nissan or other JDM manufacturers from bringing over.
@toddthezondalover6459 ай бұрын
It was more about the MILLIONS Japanese manufacturers would have spent make them within safety and emissions regulation. After it was all said and done, the Acura version of the NSX was less powerful, heavier, and about 15-25% more expensive.
@bluemutt99649 ай бұрын
@toddthezondalover645 Yeah and they lost money with every unit sold because of it as well, hard to justify that to your boss
@davidmurren46449 ай бұрын
They did! Nissan (or one of the large dealerships) did import some late R33's and converted them to UK spec and then they brought over the R34's and did the same. There are (or were) a few rare UK spec ones knocking about with MPH speedo, 155mph limiter etc
@gazman94688 ай бұрын
@@davidmurren4644 You're right of course, there was often a grey import scheme for enthusiast models. I just think Nissan/Honda /Subaru etc all missed an opportunity to really push their sports cars and have them considered in the same sphere as their German rivals. A few interior materials aside there's no reason a new GT-R shouldn't command the same price as a Turbo 911 but the brand image still isn't quite there. The R35 really boosted Nissan's rep in the eyes of the average consumer though so an R36 could well be priced a little closer to its rivals this time around
@gazman94688 ай бұрын
@@toddthezondalover645 All true but they're still talked about today and have become modern classics. If only Honda had thrown away the shackles of the 276bhp "gentleman's agreement" sooner and really opened that V6 up. The S2000 proved they could easily have made 380hp+ from a more highly tuned 3.2 V6 which would have kept it competitive with 911s of the era. Shame also they threw away the V10 replacement after spending no doubt millions and millions on its development
@SuperZedd9 ай бұрын
I’m still fond of this Top Gear era before the major revamp.
@barryb14909 ай бұрын
100% it was so much more on point!
@Zorbino889 ай бұрын
I never got to see the "old" Top Gear, I wish it were available somewhere.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat7 күн бұрын
I did like the chemistry of the old trio(Clarkson, Quentin and Tiff), then followed by Vicki and Steve Berry doing the bike stuff, plus the rally section and Michelle doing the consumer stuff. It seemed like a rich mixture - as much I appreciate the laddishness of the new style Top Gear and Grand Tour and the stunts on that.
@jingorooroad25599 ай бұрын
Imagine what Clarkson would have said, if he had the opportunity to test drive one of the R33 400R or the R34 Nismo Z-Tune.
@toddthezondalover6459 ай бұрын
He got to drive the JUN car and hated it.
@OLI-vx1md9 ай бұрын
@@toddthezondalover645 when did he say that? I literally 2 minutes ago rewatched the clip of him with the Jun R33 and he said "it is astonishing" .. the only bad thing he said is "that locking rear diff doesn't really seem to be doing its job"
@AdultsAreTalking9 ай бұрын
@@toddthezondalover645L comment
@imtheguvnor9 күн бұрын
@@toddthezondalover645 When did he say that??
@richarddangles88968 ай бұрын
The fact he drove a convertible and his hair didn't move is amazing.
@bluemutt996417 күн бұрын
Now *that's* a perm!
@joeezra54609 ай бұрын
I’ve owned 2 of these first had 380hp the 2nd 600….not one squeak or rattle and reliability 10/10! An e46 m3 after 60,000 is a complete rattle box
@THE-xp3hp9 ай бұрын
Made in Japan. I have walkmans from the same ERA they all work
@joeezra54609 ай бұрын
@@THE-xp3hphaha…from 91-94 I was still in high school I bought about 4-5 Aiwa Walkman’s..I basically worked part time just to buy Jordan’s,walkmans,football membership…had I bought Microsoft stocks I’d now have over $10,000,000😂
@THE-xp3hp9 ай бұрын
@@joeezra5460 Wow good for you. Thats alot of money
@joeezra54609 ай бұрын
@@THE-xp3hpyou didn’t get it…if doesn’t mean did
@THE-xp3hp9 ай бұрын
@@joeezra5460 i just got it
@nathanmetus29899 ай бұрын
Goosebumps watching old top gear, and the music kicking in at the end… nothing beat watching top gear as a kid back home in England. Clarkson is a legend, despite the Tina Turner look he was rocking back then.
@lucaslacasse9359 ай бұрын
Do you know the name of the song that they’re playing the background is
@nathanmetus29899 ай бұрын
@@lucaslacasse935 I wish I did brother. I’ll try to figure it out. If you get there before me please let me know!
@nathanmetus29899 ай бұрын
Only love here. Let us know if your figure out the track 🎧
@tommymfmiller48472 ай бұрын
Lenny kravitz-are you gonna come my way …your welcome
@dutchy213 Жыл бұрын
Nobody interview a car like clarkson. Nobody. 💯💯💯
@xoiDROCKiox Жыл бұрын
Proud owner of BCNR33-023561 right here
@TheCommentator353 Жыл бұрын
Omg! That's awesome. Never sell it
@cherryred6804 Жыл бұрын
Midnight purple series 2 July 1996?
@xoiDROCKiox Жыл бұрын
@@TheCommentator353 of course man it’s very underrated. You’d swear you’re in a ‘32 or ‘34 with the amount of attention it gets. Truly heartwarming
@xoiDROCKiox Жыл бұрын
@@cherryred6804 yes sir you looked at the GT-R Registry didn’t you? Kudos to you❤️
@alternativeperception694910 ай бұрын
I had a R33 everyone thinks they are huge until you park them next to a small car , try it park next to a new Mini or equivalent
@juliobrian4757 Жыл бұрын
Those who have played GT3 would recognize the BGM...
@sharpfalcon619613 күн бұрын
Yes, it's Lenny Kravitz's "Are You Gonna Go My Way" before Daiki Kasho remixed it.
@Donir10011 ай бұрын
Even Clarkson liked it, ppl that hate it have no taste.
@rosstee9 ай бұрын
People that hate it simply aren't fans of driving, just badge snobs and other poseurs.
@Kei.W9 ай бұрын
@@rossteebadge snobs is a good term indeed. Most people who have that much time to fight online about cars they dislike are usually brand slaves who cant even afford those cars they adore so much in the first place.
@Orcawhale19 ай бұрын
@@rosstee The GT-R's have never offered a great driving experience, sorry to say so. The whole reason for it's mythical status is mostly down to the engine and how easy it is to tune. Which were good qualities in the 1990s and early 2000s, but became irrelevant when all car makers switched to turbo engined cars.
@-BuddyGuy9 ай бұрын
@@Orcawhale1They don't all do 800 on stock internals though, the reason this and the 2JZ are so good is the block is built like a brick shithouse and you don't need to build the whole engine to get reliable power above 500
@Orcawhale19 ай бұрын
@@-BuddyGuy Yeah, some of the earlier blocks crack at 500 or even earlier. Was fixed in later versions of the engine, but i can't recall the exact one. The 2JZ can however do it all day, cause it's a better designed engine. Sadly however the Supra isn't a especially fun car to drive, due to it being more of a GT than a sports car.
@muhsinatras97559 ай бұрын
people always said ive got bad taste when i say i prefer the r33 gtr than the r32 and the r34. r33 nowadays is so underrated especially compared to its successors and predecessors
@leviathan52079 ай бұрын
It's all the same shitbox with the same engine. What are you even talking about.
@rosstee9 ай бұрын
@@leviathan5207 I'm sorry you appear to have got lost on KZbin. If you use the search at the top of the page and type "attention" you may find what you're looking for.
@ceirwan9 ай бұрын
The R33 is more affordable (relatively speaking). But I just love the R34.
@TeeShongwe9 ай бұрын
@@leviathan5207 Shitboxes don't beat nurburgring records and compete at le mans. Show some respect.
@cesarg43289 ай бұрын
Yeah. I think it´s the best looking of the three.
@MerlinOpeth3 ай бұрын
For such a big car, the r33 really does handle well.
@HanschepuАй бұрын
lol who told you its a big car? Ive seen and been really upclose, and also have driven a couple R34s and those cars are compact... an R33 is similarly sized to an early 00s Impreza, its somewhat similar to a 4 door civic EK, but a bit longer and thats it. Now the R35 IS a big car, yet still handles really well.
@Only_Brd17 күн бұрын
@@Hanschepu He meant compared to other generations
@Hanschepu17 күн бұрын
@@Only_Brd its just a bit longer, its not a big car, even in comparison to its immediate predecessor and successor 😅😅😅
@Only_Brd17 күн бұрын
@@Hanschepu my bad, that what I thought they ment😅
@roflcopter6458 сағат бұрын
@@Hanschepu the R33 is definitely a big car. I learnt that the first time I tried parking one.
@3d9e9 ай бұрын
That song... Gran Turismo 3 throwback
@drunvert9 ай бұрын
I love how they keep interviewing a wealthy dude from 1986.
@ExUSSailor9 ай бұрын
It wasn't "law" that limited Japanese sports cars' power, it was a gentleman's agreement between the Japanese automakers. It was never anything official.
@stefan_45089 ай бұрын
the law kinda influenced it though because back then Japanese government thought power equaled road deaths (even limiting cars to 180kmh top speed) so to keep their reputations good but also ensure that the competition would not pass them, car companies came up with that agreement
@Angry_Squirrel5559 ай бұрын
And then Toyota said F-you and built the Supra with 320hp.
@rayyagamer2011Ай бұрын
Wdym fuck you,the supra was failing to sell and the gtr wss thriving becuz one of the Skyline GTRs,the r32,nissan was supposed to make 10000 examples,but ended up making 40000 examples probably not including the special editions likd the nismo r32,still as jeremy calls an advanced car for its time,the moving playstation
@Sum_Ting_Wong Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Been looking for this review for YEARS!
@farishanafiah8461 Жыл бұрын
At last, I've been looking for the R33 review when I see the 'Car of the Year 1997' video.
@midas73949 ай бұрын
We loved this presentation. Thanks for sharing.
@dennisbailey6067Күн бұрын
Wish I had paid more attention back in the day.GTR.🎉🎉🎉
@kc5509 ай бұрын
The side profile of clarkson's giant head and afro sticking out of the ferrari @0:28 is hilarious
@markyarnold381 Жыл бұрын
Love my 33 vspec 🇦🇺
@TheBeatlesShow Жыл бұрын
I wish I could get one
@darksaber767810 ай бұрын
Don’t sell it
@sirretsnom33299 ай бұрын
The Skylines still hold their value as I seen one recently go for $70k. The even better news is that the import laws for the US are going to expire in January 2024 and you can import them as an antique. Keep in mind that there are garages full of these just sitting ready for the taking.
@maxamaxa1949 ай бұрын
Lol no, Japanese car enthusiasts know this and they're forbidding foreigners from buying them. Used car lots that specialize in skylines and sports cars don't want to let them leave the country
@aking610 Жыл бұрын
Amazing upload 👌
@kamrankhan-lj1ng Жыл бұрын
Welcome back after 2 years!
@John-A9 ай бұрын
Great review!
@chriscaarnold8 ай бұрын
Love them both. Will never have either 😢
@SA-zoom1 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson looks daft in that 355, his mop is higher than the roofline.
@danhutchins32379 ай бұрын
Haha looks like Bowser in Mario Kart (his size compared to the car...not his actual looks!!)
@SupraSav9 ай бұрын
Wish I was older to appreciate this car and Japan in the golden era of the 90s.
@ashleywintle57211 ай бұрын
Thing of beauty shame the 2nd hand market is up the wall now
@adamjones62528 ай бұрын
Skyline was legendary. Even in Gran Turismo it was clearly one of the absolute best cars.
@TheEyez1877 ай бұрын
Was. No my friend, IS, is Legendary. Loved it in GT and GT 2, spent -hours- days fine tuning the gears, getting a 426 or 443KpH top speed
@S-vx4rw8 ай бұрын
Seriously if these car brands back then didn't have the restriction of the so called Gentleman's agreement and they still went about making the GTR's and Supras
@unitedbolts80539 ай бұрын
Who would imagine... today Nissan produces Mr. Nobody cars
@mirohalford12019 ай бұрын
I thought this was a Bob Ross episode from the thumb nail
@TheBadBunny879 ай бұрын
Lol
@precertvideo9 ай бұрын
Happy little accidents
@richardhammer1879 ай бұрын
Management meeting for this piece - "I've got an idea, let's shoot the film on a dirt track, not only will that ruin the paint, and put it on a loose surface it's not designed for, but it'll also kick up loads of dust, so the viewers won't actually be able to see the car", "brilliant, go do it!" 🤔
@rayyagamer2011Ай бұрын
I mean the suspension is kinda high and its awd,so its kinda fine
@user-kz9ng3te2jКүн бұрын
That nissan was great back then an eeven better now. ❤❤l
@kavinskysmith40942 күн бұрын
two things that havent aged well on the F355, the steerings over assisted and the magnesium valves need to be redone and changed for something more stable, and have the recall with the fuel line done, which was a result of people cheapening out on the proper way to do engine outs and apparently people say its slow, the R33, just get it reupholstered in good new leather and foam and your fine
@sponsors_not_included8 ай бұрын
Nissan please just remake this car to the tee
@ENGBriseB9 ай бұрын
It was a great car and Jeremy Clarkson again was correct with the Nissan Skyline.
@DankSi4 күн бұрын
I remember checking the nissan japan website and looking at the r33 in 1997, good times
@SilentMovements3052 күн бұрын
The first time I used the internet my top 3 searches were the GT90 R34 n the F1 definitely good times
@Rondo2ooo2 ай бұрын
The Skyline is also the reliable car here.
@MrCalverino9 ай бұрын
MY FAV CAR!!!
@gfunkrsa9 ай бұрын
"especially since it's 2.6 litre engine is nothing to write home about" - if only he knew...
@placeholdername32069 ай бұрын
RB's are well known to blow up. They have a number of weaknesses and aren't very beefy. Go through the pits at any drift event and you will barely see any Nissans running a Nissan motor. Most run JZ's and LS stuff.
@TurboV8boi9 ай бұрын
He wasn't wrong. It's a pretty "normal" 80's/90's tech engine. Like the 2j (2j being a little better since it's stronger) but that doesn't mean old tech is bad.
@kantina47659 ай бұрын
It isn’t. These cars are famously disappointing stock, quiet and not all too fast. In the straights at least. There’s a reason they’re most famous as ‘tuner’ and race cars.
@DavidBainGaming9 ай бұрын
@@placeholdername3206 Man what, here in New Zealand, where the vast majority of RB powered cars in the world have ended up, still all have the RB, street, track, drift, drag etc. Never had any issues with my RB25 Cefiro, none of my mates have ever had any problems with their ones either. An RB20DET will take limiter bashing longer than a JZ, sound better too.
@placeholdername32069 ай бұрын
@@DavidBainGaming Either you're talking shit and completely clueless or trolling
@FelipeFritschF27 ай бұрын
It's pretty funny how he made the idea of a Ferrari getting overtaken by a Japanese competitor seem ludicrous in as late as 1996.
@Youaintseenmeright.......12 сағат бұрын
The thumbnail has huge Bob Ross vibes 😂
@chrissalimi87088 ай бұрын
That GranTourismo music 🎵
@LuqmanHM17 күн бұрын
Clarkson roasting Nissan was pure GOLD 😂😂
@robinyourhood189 Жыл бұрын
My Dream Car..
@tanaka9010 ай бұрын
Same, I cant wait for the day I buy a F355 Berlinetta in rosso maranello
@rosstee9 ай бұрын
@@tanaka90 I'm sure you'll look great in it.
@tanaka909 ай бұрын
@rosstee Thank you, may you get ahold of your favourite car also
@mht52517 күн бұрын
Luv my R33 GTR Godzilla. JDM ✌️ 🤘 🇦🇺
@m00nkinftw10 күн бұрын
I had an r33 with a big single turbo. 515hp at the wheels, the thing was nuts. Rust was always a battle though
@jameslast31929 ай бұрын
Oh I miss the 90’s
@xgford943 күн бұрын
5:00 Nissan Australia said Yeah why not 🎉
@JerGol8 ай бұрын
3:10 - Ah! The original 'dab of oppo'!
@TedTofield8 ай бұрын
Thought the same thing! I bought the t-shirt when it was out… wonder where it is now?
@Supadan753 күн бұрын
THIS and the Nissan GTR are my favourite ’Street Cars’ in its day destroyed a lot of high end super cars on performance
@stickerz67711 ай бұрын
"You can...in a Nissan"
@Nyaonyx5 күн бұрын
It's hard to see them grow old
@chrispitre40919 сағат бұрын
I thought it was Bob Ross doing a painting in the thumbnail 1😂😂
@mrskeltal32813 күн бұрын
look how tiny that 355 looks compared to modern day ridiculously enormous cars :D
@bigbag43542 күн бұрын
Wow just wow
@volkte379 күн бұрын
It took Gran Turismo to do for Nissan what they should have done.
@senseofthecommonman19 сағат бұрын
Back at that time I went for a business meal, and the subject of dream cars came up. I said a Nissan Skyline. They looked at me and said your dream car is a Nissan…..they obviously had no idea what it actually was, but obviously thought I was an A hole😂😂 And I actually nearly got one as well but went down the Evo route instead.
@YegoYTP Жыл бұрын
Any chance you've got clarksons review on the renault megane coupe from 1995-1996
@ArmySigs9 ай бұрын
V Spec cars are now worth about the same as a mint 355 too!
@SSHHABBA4 күн бұрын
Back when top gear was selling cars for manufacturers
@gunsandcars36489 ай бұрын
Godzilla , the king of JDMs
@thedarkknight19719 ай бұрын
AS MAGNIFICENT as the R33 and R34, and even the R35 is.... My choice would be the R32, I just LOVE that shape, especially in the graphite-ish grey looking colour... Each to their own I guess... But yeah... The Skylines... They're damn fine cars! 😎🇬🇧
@gmain19775 күн бұрын
And me
@bagatuuri80709 ай бұрын
Personal im more in to r32s, had one and theyr are superb!
@antonyhart67573 ай бұрын
now that car would be worth a quarter mil
@Prodriver332 күн бұрын
R33 is best GTR. Best looking by miles.
@emantabrizi82189 ай бұрын
Nissan missed out on so much revenue by not importing the R32, 33, and 34 to the United States.
@ThatguyPanda8610 күн бұрын
Here they are now going for six figures easily in the US with a US title.
@dingusbingus746326 күн бұрын
The bit on it costing a mil not being worth it, jeremy is yotally right. In 2024 we can see how much most if not all big names drop on advertisement budgets. Imagine how much they could move to development if they stopped doing adverts vying for people attention and just surprise people with something new
@danfuerthgillis44833 ай бұрын
Lmfao that 320 km hr no consumer car here in the west built by the big 3 even in 2024 can go 200 km hr without breaking apart lol😂
@dmtr752 күн бұрын
I dunno...Japanese can't match Europeans in engineering? That thing, and a lot of cars from and since that era, have a great engine, top-notch suspension and a balanced chassis. The modern GT-R's (R32 and later) had world's first really intelligent four-wheel-drive, sensing the driving situation of the car (understeer? oversteer?) and sending torque around the drivetrain to make it handle well and maximise the tire's grip. In my book, that's world class engineering. P.S. The 280 hp limit wasn't mandated by the Japanese government, it was an agreement between Japanese carmakers, like the 250 km/h limit from other carmakers.
@nastystew694210 ай бұрын
That is a midnight purple 1 car
@Alex-md6bu20 сағат бұрын
“The 2.6l engine is nothing to write home about” 😅😅😅😅
@MAGA_Randy_Marsh9 ай бұрын
They even used the Gran Turismo soundtrack!!!!
@marvinsteimle-rominger69779 ай бұрын
a Million!!!!! thats what it took for Nissan not to bring the GTR to Europe?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
@bertyboy7810 күн бұрын
Does anyone else remember watching this episode on TV?
@gmain19775 күн бұрын
Yes
@7071t611 сағат бұрын
so funny in australia where the term muscle car came from, they have them doing 6 second down the 1/4 mile beat that England even the ford twin turbo sierra could not beat the godzilla at Bathurst road way race track in the 1990's.
@vectorphresh8 ай бұрын
I wonder if Gran Turismo 3 was paying homage to this clip by playing “Are You Gonna Go My Way” as the opening song.
@freshtapcoke8 ай бұрын
Oh shit I thought that was Bob Ross
@Vstar29910 күн бұрын
Jeremy clarkson looks like bob ross back in the 90s
@tomhindle349 ай бұрын
Why does the thumbnail look like Bob Ross 😂😂
@Sooooooooooostupid9 ай бұрын
That's Bob Ross's brother Ross Bob
@chriscarberry97219 ай бұрын
I can't be the only one, who after looking at the thumbnail, thought this was a Bob Ross video right???
@c4r5on889 ай бұрын
One of my favourite cars uve ever owned and one of my biggest mistakes at the time of owning it I had a 850 T5r manual and a fiat coupe 20v turbo so 3 amazing cars. Unfortunately the skyline was my vehicle of choice when i was off my face on ketamine and god knows what else. Obviously resulting in me writing it off. It wasn't that bad and was easily fixed but I just parked it on the drive of my ex partners mums. Eventually selling it for £150 yep. One hundred and fifty frigging pounds.
@sailor819 ай бұрын
hope you had a good night with the 150 quid at least
@c4r5on889 ай бұрын
@sailor81 probably not lol however the way I look at it someone else will have been over the moon 😅 I did see it come up for sale around 3 years ago and it had been repaired but rear end still had the marks and broken back light and it had beeb stood in a garage for years. It was fairly cheap so I got the funds together but someone beat me to it. Around a week after that it was back up for sale for much more and the new owner looked to have only washed it.
@0Heeroyuy019 ай бұрын
did Clarkson say the GTr was the first to break the 8min time on the nürburgring? i though the C5 corvette was the first car the break the 8 min mark
@fivezerofivezero83579 ай бұрын
This car has been exported
@gnrsgl8 ай бұрын
Right about this time i made my first child
@KingLich4519 ай бұрын
1:56 gran turismo 3 intro music
@njs4619 ай бұрын
Really couldn’t import to uk? Steering wheel is already on the right! Also uk is where you can by a TVR which is way less compliant safety regulation wise
@mr2cqql9 ай бұрын
Yes you could import back in the days, It wasnt officically from nissan uk until sometime later.
@Angry_Squirrel5559 ай бұрын
Funny how much more that Nissan is worth now over that Ferrari 355.
@OgglyGoogly9 ай бұрын
Here Ferrari 355 is $250k skyline is $80k
@markb84675 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that’s clarksons Ferrari 355 not a rental or borrowed one I wonder if he still has it
@MrMcKane5 ай бұрын
No, he sold it around 2002 for that blue SL55 AMG.
@fl00d699 ай бұрын
My dream car.
@buggyman2869 ай бұрын
A pristine condition R33 in my country will set you back $60k+
@dt-wq7ql8 ай бұрын
Please avoid the word "old" . Try Top gear 1996 . It makes me feel less old 😢
@rovervitesse19852 күн бұрын
Might drive great, might be very fast, might grip like nothing else, but for me a car also has to look good. And that goes for the EXterior AND INterior for me. I’ll have the 355 please
@Tight--LiNeZ15 сағат бұрын
Do you think he wore a durag to bad back then? Cos that's one funk perm.
@LEE...3372 күн бұрын
Prefer the GTS 25T, less of the gizmos and rear wheel drive.