MTG Top 10: Lands That Produce Multiple Mana | Some of the Most BUSTED Lands | Episode 498

[@bradleygiven5193]

I definitely traded a Gaia’s Cradle for a Shivan Hellkite after opening my first Urza’s Saga starter and I did not need to learn how much that trade cost me today.

[@tapif]

same here but for two deranged hermits

[@Sweetguy1821]

I traded my 7th edition foiled birds of paradise for some jank rares, I feel your pain lol.

[@hermodnitter3902]

At least good it wasn't Gaea's Cradle...

[@AngryBob4213]

It looks like he's got the price of the judge foil version. TCGPlayer median is currently $974. So definitely still expensive but not $2.5k expensive

[@davidcobb8107]

I understand, have traded/ sold cards and I groan a little bit when seeing the latest price, but that is all hindsight. did trade a couple of my gaias cradle a while ago for more warhammer models....was a darn good deal at the time but now is worth 3times as much. lol

[@bluemoonflame342]

Just for kicks, you should do a top 10 of the basic lands/snow-covered basics. It would be pretty amusing to see which of those comes out on top

[@foeller13]

You'd have at least 11 since wastes count as basic lands so you'd even have an honorable mention

[@randomrandom7208]

nah, obviously the island will be number one

[@memyself3510]

@@randomrandom7208 will it though? I mean yeah probably all formats considered, but given recent standard formats I wouldn’t be surprised if forests gave it a run for its money

[@weegeelinguini3704]

@@memyself3510 recent standard, or all of magic? Island probably wins

[@IzzysIssues]

either Forest or Island has to be the strongest card in Magic

[@riccardocalosso5688]

You know gaea's cradle is extremely powerful when the budget version, growing rites of itilimoc, costs 3 mana, needs 4 creatures in play to even start producing mana, but it's still perfectly playable in commander.

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

I have gotta be honest when I say I have *slept* on Ancient Tomb. I knew it was a really good land, but damn I did not expect it to be #1 on a list with Tolarian Academy, the Tron lands and Mishra's fucking Workshop. Although, it would definitely *not* make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", which I guess shows I didn't sleep on it much after all.

[@NotReallyChefGregggo]

Ancient Tomb is my ultimate “Good cards I thought were bad” experience. Two COLORLESS mana for two life? Why would I help my opponent for only one extra mana over a basic land? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@doormatt72]

when i was a young teen i had an artifact deck i was really wanting to take to the next level. i planned to buy 4 mishra's workshops for it. i saved for months and planned to buy them as they were 249.99 at the time. but my parents told me i couldn't spend $1000 on 4 cards. i remember them saying things like "who knows if this game will even exist a few years from now, and then you would have thrown away your money." that seemed reasonable as magic was relatively new at the time, and most games do fail at some point. so i didn't buy them. it's funny / unfortunate to see how much it cost me that i didn't buy them at the time. that $1000 would have turned into about $15,000.

[@kjmergen]

The stock market went up slightly-higher than that over that period: Your $3799 Workshop now vs $4224 now if you'd have put it in a general fund. Having said that, it'd have been worth FAR MORE in play value because you would've had four freaking Workshops!!!

[@corbinschneider9997]

I had 4 of every dual lands mix pearl n diamond my diamond was prob a psa 9 cause I pulled it n instantly hard cased had cradle lotus vale scorched ruins maze of ith dark 5 of my duos were unlimited rishadan port ancient tomb 4 strip mines 4 unlimited sinkholes 4 chain lightnings original dozens of alpha n beta lands sold all for less than 250$ cash due to addiction n some fir box of Mercadian masque an urzas legacy. All give bout three years before they spiked. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@stevenrhodes8338]

Surprised cabal coffers wasn't in the list but I can understand why this list was kinda a power house

[@simplemindedsage]

I don't think Coffers ever did much outside of Block and Standard. It usually won't start netting extra mana until turn five, and unlike Nykthos, it's a dead card in the early game. The idea of Coffers being a powerhouse mostly comes from Commander. Even then it only really shines in mono black. Once you start adding more colors to the mix you need to start jumping through hoops to make Coffers good.

[@Sauvenil]

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth makes Cabal Coffers profitable sooner. But even still it's a little slow.

[@Pehr81]

Gaea's Cradle also had the downside of mana burn, but it was significantly buffed when that was removed..

[@captiannemo1587]

And changed the game forever. Just look at how it caused all the mana producing cards to jump.

[@faerie7dragon]

@@captiannemo1587 Tell me about it. I bought my 1st Mana Drain today.

[@piemaster831]

significantly buffed is a bit of an overstatement. mana burn really never mattered

[@claytonwilde5750]

Kind of a funky idea but what about top 10 best strictly worse cards? (Aka best cards with a strictly better version of them)

[@FlawlessRhythmGG]

For instance it would have Dictate of Erebos instead of Grave Pact?

[@zarator7429]

The problem I can see with that is that it'd be hella hard to search for them on any MTG search engine like Scryfall. If you check most of Nizzahon's chosen themes, they're generally relatively straightforward to look for: a type, a specific ability, or something like that. "Strictly better" is nothing like that, you'd basically have to search through all 22k existing cards or so by hand, and that'd be a ridiculous task

[@WarriorF7]

@@FlawlessRhythmGG Neither of those is strictly better. Dictate costs 1 more total mana(3BB) but it also has flash and is a bit more splashable since the cost of Grave Pact is 1BBB

[@claytonwilde5750]

@@zarator7429 hmmm the wiki of each set has its strictly best and worst cards so he could use that though it might be a little harder than scryfall

[@LadyBernkastel92]

As someone who's first real, 'I'm fully invested' set was Ravnica, the bounce lands have a special place in my heart, and I tend to super over value them. I don't think I've ever built a commander deck without all the bounce lands that can fit. But they're so coooooooooooool!

[@TransformersBoss]

Bounce lands keep getting better in Commander since we keep getting new lands that are good to bounce, like MDFC’s, Channel lands, and Mystic Sanctuary

[@J_o_B_is_back]

It's been Friday for a literal minute!

[@PDXurbia]

It's still Thursday yall trippin

[@copernicusxx]

@@PDXurbia West coaster here, can confirm.

[@ChillBill1968]

Congratulations on the (allmost) 500 episodes. Quite an acheivement these days! 🤘🐸🤘

[@NizzahonMagic]

Thanks a ton!

[@jumpsteady1777]

I have an old gold border deck I obtained in the 90s...kai buddes wildfire deck he used to win 1999 Tokyo championship. It's such a mindblowing deck and the ramp back then can just still run circles around most today. I just remember one turn 2 I had set myself up to have like 9 mana by the next turn.

[@Mas1337]

Mighty list! Fascinating fact that Academy holds nr. 4 spot despite being banned, like mentioned, after single extended event. :)

[@ryankelly7957]

Keep it up Nizza - you are by far my favorite MTG KZbinr! Looking forward to the Dominaria United set review.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Thanks, that is high praise!

[@Lovuschka]

Island already is completely broken. Imagine a land that can produce even more than one blue mana.

[@BaconJake14]

No see the reason Island is more broken than Tolarian Academy is because the Academy is legendary, so you can only have 1 out. Sure producing more than 1 blue mana is great, but imagine multiple lands producing blue mana. That's what Island gets you.

[@littlegeek5159]

Urza's Tower featured in the latest DMU story post, so obviously it's 100% guaranteed that tron is coming to standard probably not pioneer though, I think wizards would prefer that lotus field and nykthos continue to be the ramp-lands of choice for that format /s

[@langkanai]

I had multiple copies of Cradle and Academy as a highschooler. My mom moved a few times and all my old cards got lost in the shuffle. I don't even care about the money, it just would be so nice to have all my old cards for the memories.

[@davidcobb8107]

I was always fond of gemstone mines in some of my multi color decks

[@wintervoid324]

Academy got me second in states (Standard), losing to another academy deck. During the tournament I won one game before my opponent was able to even draw a card, and I lost one game before I could ever draw a card. That was not that uncommon with that deck. This was the most consistent and resilient combo deck I had ever played (Talking standard). If you had not won by turn 3, you had a horrible draw, or you were against a deck built to beat Academy....which meant you won on Turn 5.

[@LosRockson]

Hey Nizza, I don’t know if you have done this previously but I am very curious as for your process to make these top tens. I would like to see a video about it, like what are the tools, what are you looking for and how, and how it all comes together in a top 10.

[@AidanWR]

This was one of the only lists that I knew every card on the list beforehand, but didn't know the order

[@derekcline950]

Happy to support!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Much appreciated

[@nobodyimportant72]

I wonder if Cloudpost should have been mentioned. It maybe didn't get the quick start but when it got the pieces it needed it was quickly banned to oblivion.

[@09Dragonite]

It hurts to see Gaea's Cradle at number 8 ultimately because it is so overwhelmingly busted that it can't possibly be legal in any non-legacy/vintage/commander format. Worse is seeing Nykthos one slot above it just because Nykthos is used as a pseudo Cradle in Devotion decks, but is itself a little more demanding to run. Not by a ton, but paying 2 mana and requiring devotion for value is a little worse than just adding the mana you need in a single activation. Also quickly realizing just how many of these I run in my favorite commander deck. Boy oh boy, do I have a problem...

[@redrooster8042]

I know it never will get points but Scorched Ruins produces 4 mana lol and it's interaction with City of traitors is delicious. High risk high reward. My friend now runs wastelands AND ghost quarters when he sees my eldrazi deck.

[@jenniferwilliams9612]

Not to be a nitpicking nerd, but, most of the artifacts used with Tolarian Academy were not from Saga Block. The ones that I remember were Mox Diamond, Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, Urza’s Bauble (3), and Voltaic Key in Type II [Standard]. These are from Stronghold, Tempest, 5th, 5th, and Saga respectively. I ran 19 artifacts in my Academy deck. Tolarian Academy was banned in every format (restricted in Type I [vintage], which is effectively the same thing) before Legacy or Destiny came out. The Academy deck didn’t use Saga artifacts (except Voltaic Key), and the good artifacts from the block, like Memory Jar or Grim Monolith came in Urza’s Legacy. Artifacts in Saga itself were not played in Academy, except key, and the only other good ones, Fluctuator and Smokestack weren’t used with Academy. Sorry to be that person, but I remember those days, and that deck in particular, and that’s just a little clarification that is due to that point.

[@krotash7740]

I'm curious where Castle Garenbrig and Cabal Coffers end up on this list. I had them in my brainstorm as possible includes. Edit: Also Cloudpost

[@lindsayssbm]

I was curious as well Castle Garenbrig has 14 points from my research. It seems mono green had been just outside top-8 range while in standard and it isn’t picking up placements in other formats. EDIT: Including MPL placements, it would have 18.

[@krotash7740]

@@lindsayssbm I expected it to have a bit more. I also remember seeing it pop up a fair bit in titan decks as a 1 of.

[@TransformersBoss]

It won’t be long before you make a Top 10 where every single card has been in a Deck History video

[@NotReallyChefGregggo]

Top Ten vanilla one mana 1/1’s 😂😂

[@kingginger3335]

In my opinion, Guild Color Bounce Lands are the best Lands in the game. Especially now that Duel Face Model Cards exist.

[@tonberrytoby]

Are there even filter lands that have a chace of getting on a list like this?

[@magnesium13]

This is gonna be one stacked list

[@karlbaumer5652]

Surprised cabal coffers didn’t get a mention

[@NizzahonMagic]

It didn't even get close!

[@Calintares]

How many points does Cloudpost have?

[@NizzahonMagic]

21

[@n.m5253]

Considering it's basically a staple in Titan, how many points does Castle Garenbrig have?

[@NizzahonMagic]

18

[@bojuka_bob]

It's still Friday!

[@theunwelcome]

wow, imagine a list so stacked that Cradle is only #8 and Academy only #4...

[@basabromander2778]

Maybe we could do a big ol mostpowerful nonbasic cards ever?

[@pakeshde7518]

The only reason those top two are there is the rareness and cost of a workshop. I mean almost 4k kind of limits the ease of having this in a deck much less 4.

[@thavonephanthavongsa4962]

wtf i got a gaia cradle, i never knew it was worth that much i gonna try to find it

[@slimerat7060]

I read the title as "top ten lands that produce purple mana" and I was confused

[@ApexZer0]

Top 10 power 9 retrains

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

Wow, tron lands at only #5, this list is STACKED.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yarp!

[@TheRedneckBudha]

Nope still Thursday over here man

[@TheAngelRaven]

Still wish that, since Gaea's Cradel isn't banned, they'd unban TA in Commander. Sure, it would mean Land Destruction becomes common and I'll never even have a TA, but fun times would be had... hopefully.

[@versa751]

I think you dont understand how much more abusable Tolarian Academy is compared to Gaia's Cradle... the prevalence of 0 CMC artifacts and cheap artifact tokens and artifact LANDS means that TA could NEVER be let off the commander ban list. Also ALL the new dual color artifact lands are indestructible... and can be duplicated by something like prototype portal for infinite lands. Do you know any spells that can exile LANDS? because there are only two I can think of and they wipes everyones lands and are expensive. Also, dont forget it produces specifically BLUE mana so it pays for counterspells, thoughtcasts/thought monitors etc. Unlike Gaia's Cradle, TA is TOO fast and has TOO much protection it enables.

[@aaronbennett3966]

No Cabal Coffers?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Nope. List too stacked

[@aaronbennett3966]

@@NizzahonMagic indeed

[@bryantan492]

About MIsharas Workshop. What the hell is that in the art?!!!

[@NizzahonMagic]

I go deep on that in my Top 10 on "GREAT Cards with AWFUL Art" haha

[@bryantan492]

@@NizzahonMagic Hahaha! Just saw your vid. It truly deserves the #1 spot.

[@nothankyou4859]

RIP Crystal Vein 😭

[@pennuengkasemsuppakit3627]

you are the best dude

[@Inforza]

since when is a cradle 2600 dollars?? i bought one back int he days from urza block for what is now something like 10 euro or 10 dollars.. my classmate quited paper magic and as his classmates we had 1st pick on cards we would like to buy.. cardmarket doesn't go as high as 2599 thou.. around 700 euro there..

[@NizzahonMagic]

Apparently I mistakenly used the price for a judge promo version.

[@Inforza]

@@NizzahonMagic ah makes sense. I allready checked cardmarket right after i saw the 2599 dollar, but price there was still at the same level as a few months ago

[@freewilly1337]

How about a 'Top 9: Power 9' video?

[@aj3k]

500 incoming!!!

[@camdenharper7244]

Would love to see. "Number "5" is X. X does stupid... Number "4" is..."

[@mkwilson1394]

You used the judge promo cradle price! It's still a $1K card, but not as crazy as you made it look

[@NizzahonMagic]

Woops

[@jenniferwilliams9612]

Possibly due to Nostalgia (definitely due to nostalgia), Tolarian Academy is probably my favorite card in the game! I played it in tournament when I was a kid, and I loved that deck, until they banned it. 🙁 I love that card and deck so much, that I have a “casual” (because it isn’t actually very good) vintage version of that old Type II deck on MTGO. It is nice to see my favorite card finally make a list! I am looking forward to seeing Academy in a deck history video some time in the future.

[@zackestin1368]

im going to guess tron or ancient tomb are number 1

[@Milkybetrayal]

Land ahoy

[@neondarknessor]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@SpellingBeeWiner]

Honestly this video shows the limitations of the scoring format. Obviously Academy and Workshop are better than City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb, but the fact that they're banned in legacy nets them a spot below. I don't think anything needs to change, but I felt the need to point it out. So excited for episode 500! I've been watching for a LONG time, and it's awesome so see these keep coming out.

[@TheMajesticYak0]

I really wish they would unban the Tolarian Academy in the other formats so my copy can be worth as much as Gaea’s Cradle…

[@rowerewolf]

Top 10: Cards with a Card Kingdom price above $1,000.

[@milesgreb3537]

There is no way Cradle is 8th lol

[@BaconJake14]

"Hi everyone I'm Nizzahon, and today is Friday, which means it's time for another MTG Top Ten, the series where I rank cards based on their historical performance at Magic's highest level of competition. It's the 500th episode, so today we're going to be looking at the top 10 cards. To be eligible for this list, a card had to be printed. In all this means that 23,812 cards were eligible for this list."

[@riccardocalosso5688]

I think you might be forgetting a few cards. 23k cards seem a bit on the low end, for a game that's been running for almost 30 years. [Edit] nevermind, i double checked, and scryfall gives me 24202 cards, so i guess thems the numbers, more or less.

[@BaconJake14]

@@riccardocalosso5688 i used gatherer and excluded unsets, planes, phenomenons, conspiracies, and vanguard and that's the number of unique cards it gave me. I think it's just the amount of cards printed in recent years that skews up what we would think, as do the sheer number of reprints.

[@riccardocalosso5688]

@@BaconJake14 i would've used gatherer to, but it keeps not responding, so i had to make do.

[@blacklancejeo6625]

Too bad Cloudpost didn't make the cut

[@kaianteixeira2813]

most of them are too pricy or too specific for worthy play

[@wackywong]

Shouldn't Lotus Field create a bazillion mana? After all, it _is_ a field full of Black Lotusses.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Well, each time you use it you pick one of them and use the mana. I guess. Haha.

[@stevene6181]

They need to v reprint these cards

[@mrnekomaneki01]

Darn was hoping one of my favorites scorched ruins would be on here but i understand tournaments dictate these lists. This is why cabal coffers not being on this list makes sense if i recall it was a terrible card when it came out and then only after commander became a thing did it become good because it was stuck premodern for a long time.

[@NizzahonMagic]

It actually saw some play back in the day in mono black control, but yeah - didn't become this card everyone thinks is amazing until EDH.

[@jeremymorehead8828]

Boomer Sooner!

[@ygrene101]

Would rather just see the lands, I don't care how others have used them. Too long of a video.

[@marcelosandrini]

I thought Cabal Coffers would be in this list 🥲

[@NizzahonMagic]

Sorry, list is way too stacked for the Coffers to even get close.