Multiversus Is Screwing Over Its Biggest Fans

It is IMPRESSIVE to mess up this badly.
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[@eherexx1965]

WB is so corporate. Be prepared for a lot of franchises being turned out and destroyed in order to make a spreadsheet look good to a stockholder/boardroom member. 😢

[@jameslazaridis4180]

Well..FIRED HIM!!

[@krissmith9814]

Omg the corporation is corporate? Who'd have thunk

[@balenci12]

they really ruining this game for some bald old dumbass who probably doesn't even know how to access youtube

[@dizzyheads]

And yet they would throw away a completed movie instead of releasing it

[@trevorhoffler-xu5bq]

​@@krissmith9814 no..he's right.. WB is so broke just about everything they do these days is just a shameless cash grab so they can find another sucker to buy it

[@hawaiian87]

We only have ourselves to blame for this. Everyone complains about micro transactions, but we don’t stop spending real money to get in game stuff. People need to stop using micro transactions, or stop complaining about them. That’s all there is to it. If they don’t make money off of micro transactions, we can potentially make them go away.

[@devinmarsh2813]

Hard with free games, if the game itself is good fans want to support it, to grow, only way it will.

[@jiblitin1520]

@@devinmarsh2813 That's a terrible argument. It sounds like you're talking about pay to play.

[@devinmarsh2813]

Eh if you say so, yeah they’re to much rn but get rid of them entirely in a free game don’t expect much to get added 😂

[@partyboy1076]

@@devinmarsh2813then they should just make the game B2P then

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Truth

[@justified9537]

hate how WB is getting in their own way, the game is solid fun and has so much potential but is bogged down by greed smh.

[@Bman32x]

That’s the painful part. Player First Games at their foundation made a fun game. WB and their disgusting practices made this unplayable. The grind + the blatant “spend 4x what a game is worth to get some of the roster” has even made my kids say no thanks.

[@Snowfreak357]

First time? Happened to every game I’ve liked over the last 3 years

[@StephenLeGresley]

Screwing over players is basically the model now for most of the Video Gaming industry. From insane prices to micro transactions they've dug their own greedy little graves.

[@israelruiz8706]

That's the truth. The only thing that will happen is that the game will die. You'd think they would learn since their game technically died already. Really doubt they would have closed the beta if it retained a good amount of players

[@StephenLeGresley]

@@israelruiz8706 It's why i don't buy most games that come out now. I prefer games where I don't have to keep paying for them after I purchase them. Being honest I probably won't play the next Elder Scrolls game because it will likely be loaded down with loot boxes and micro transactions. I'll stick with Skyrim where I can play the game without having to keep paying over and over again.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@israelruiz8706 you can think that nothing is going to change, but ultimately if enough people say "i'm not doing this anymore" and stick to it, the industry will collapse onto itself and destroy these greedy companies.

[@Bman32x]

The fact they took away my characters and skins I had already unlocked is pretty irritating. I was hoping you guys would address this and you did not disappoint bringing up the aggressive microtransactions. They’re even worse now.

[@requiem9167]

I actually got all my stuff. You should contact their support

[@teknyon]

I kept all my stuff this is a bug or account issue

[@sharmanz6291]

the boss of the developers tweeted that you just need to write them a ticket in the support section on the website and they will fix it for you

[@boostio_music]

I had like 500 hours in the beta and unlocked everyone and a ton of the skins. I kept all of mine. That sounds like a bug

[@xemlyrics]

This is either bullshit from your part or a bug. And if it's a bug contact their support. I'm a beta player and I got all of my stuff just fine.

[@mckensieferguson4329]

These companies are insane

[@ablaise82]

I’m more concerned with the Grindy and seemingly impossible to complete Rift system… did they even test this stuff?

[@warmonger_365]

They did not 😂

[@majrgaming2633]

I’ve already completed every rift 3 times on 3 difficulties idk what ur problem is lol

[@chad540996]

@@majrgaming2633I’ve been playing religiously and I’ve also completed 3 rifts to completion “basically”. The problem is the time. I had zero fun with them after the first time and really sat and considered how long I’d have to force myself through the rest to get a character two weeks early. It immediately killed my interest. If agent smith was a month or two wait then maybe it would have been worth. But as it is now it definitely feels like your choice is only play rifts indefinitely or wait and pay. That being said, I’m more into the pvp aspect so maybe it’s not so bad if you are only interested in solo stuff. To each their own but this game isn’t exactly built for pve as much as it’s meant to be an addition. It’s not sitting right with a lot of people so there’s definitely an issue there.

[@majrgaming2633]

@@chad540996 I only took issue with the “seemingly impossible” part at the time, I wasn’t trying to speak on how fun it is, even at that i will say crushing difficulty can be pretty difficult at times, so I have to see how this rift mode plays out before i can say if it’s too hard as a whole or not, it can be very repetitive so I’m not saying it’s perfect or anything, but it’s also optional so it’s not like it’s required or anything

[@Fierydarkopal]

Can’t wait for the multiverses toonami collab where we get Goku and inuyasha

[@AsendedLoser]

I'm still waiting for Freakazoid.

[@StephenLeGresley]

Just play Jump Force.

[@ne0n1nja247]

Yeah thats 2 seperate properties. Youd have to get game rights to those characters not just the right to air on TV. Aka.... probably not happening

[@AsendedLoser]

@@ne0n1nja247 Aww☹

[@EvanBagwell]

@@ne0n1nja247I wouldn’t say so. They did say awhile back that literally any property is viable

[@Freyja_Broko]

Arkham fans are like "first time?"

[@kmart2099]

Yes it is, what happened to Arkham fans?

[@smallmediumatlarge]

@@kmart2099suicide squad and now Arkham VR 2

[@Freyja_Broko]

@@kmart2099 Just look at Suicide Squad. That is all you need.

[@DikinBuas95]

Literally 😂

[@kmart2099]

@@smallmediumatlarge oh yeah, I repressed suicide squad from my memories.

[@rndmpinkiepie64]

And all I can do, as someone who warned people this would happen and was told I was wrong and stupid, is just watch these people get screwed over and laugh and laugh and laugh

[@jiblitin1520]

WB is in the race to the bottom.

[@jeromespann4698]

Free to play games are all time sinks unless you choose to pay. What angers me is when I pay full price for a game and it's still monetized to death.

[@GrimAngel01100]

I knew I wasn't tripping for thinking I had evil Morty, bandana gizmo, and pajama fin. And my homie had like 75k prestige while I had like 50. I'm like, wtf? I leveled up everything, could've sworn I had all the characters. I'm not crazy

[@r3iwu]

Remember when ‘free to play’ was the original Doom giving the first episode for free then charging a one time full price for the rest of the game?

[@celvinardenwu5382]

Isn't that more of a demo in a way? Demo used to be the goat back then. Nowadays, it's rare, especially in modern games

[@heroofthevoir7041]

60 to 70 hours to unlock Joker? I'm starting to get Melee Mewtwo Flashbacks. And you cant even just plug in 4 controllers and go take a nap for 5 hours to cheese it.

[@xemlyrics]

Totally false. I unlocked Joker in a couple days just doing daily stuff and missions for a few hours each day.

[@theshadowking3198]

@@xemlyricssure 😂 but what about the other characters and did you notice time slip away

[@xemlyrics]

@@theshadowking3198 I have been unlocking 1-2 characters per week depending on how much I play. And no, I don't play more than a couple hours daily. Cope harder.

[@googamp32]

Zaslav really IS trying to destroy every part of Warner Bros.

[@disneyngooglesuckatvideogames]

Just like Iger destroying Disney 😏

[@Bman32x]

Probably for a tax write off. He’s not really WB’s CEO, he’s Discovery’s. To him, WB is an annoying sunk cost they’re trying to recoup.

[@EdwarioERS]

If you didn't get the Founder's Pack you're in for a terrible grind to get characters. Those tickets were so valuable they discontinued them, yet they're still on accounts for Founders with their Golden Toast banners.

[@trashdakid3682]

The main two issues I have are the frequent desync I and other people have during matches and progressing through the battle pass. You can only progress by completing the limited challenges. Once you finished them, there's no reason for me to play until the next day.

[@pessimisticoptimist3107]

The desync issues also count towards loses which really sucks. Even if your teammate wins, you still lose. Not to mention rift battles count towards your total wins career wise

[@theshadowking3198]

@@pessimisticoptimist3107yeah I remember seeing some people had 250 wins and I was a little scared until I realised I hade 150

[@RafaelMorris]

Lying is lying and WB lied about your stuff transferring from the beta. There is no reason to support this game.

[@ethandtheangryenglishguy8253]

Every company likes to lie don’t they

[@Dabbewear8382]

My stuff was transferred from the beta when I played it on Steam.

[@elidragom]

didn’t realize, i won’t support out of principle. they’re trynna be as scammy as possible without looking like one

[@Dreemii]

Contact support

[@naruhearts1]

It did for me but the only reason i dont want to play it is because its too slow now

[@jackwaterman6727]

What about the effect of these things on children? Especially poor children who can't afford £70 games and in communities that are desperate and susceptible to gambling. This is disgusting

[@Bman32x]

The EU I think has done a much better job actually addressing these issues than other governments. What these usual suspects game companies, EA & WB, are doing is tantamount to gambling targeting children. There is no other way to describe it.

[@deeshotcha2250]

Bro the game is free stop complaining lol

[@jackwaterman6727]

@@deeshotcha2250 bootlicker

[@mysticdigital5936]

​@@deeshotcha2250 No, that is not an excuse for the company screwing over customers, over-monetizing the game while limiting EXP gain, making the UI worse, taking away options and leaderboards, and constant connectivity issues on every platform. Stop bootlicking. You can enjoy the game but dont pretend it doesnt have issues jsut because it's free.

[@deeshotcha2250]

@@mysticdigital5936 like I said it’s a free game it’s awarding player who played and been on beta ok it’s buggy but all content is cheap you asking like it’s a cash grab and they messing people over lol

[@IanICee]

Isn't it just crazy how successful WB could be if they listened to consumers and developers?

[@300Walk]

developers are a part of the problem.....

[@IanICee]

@@300Walk developers are often being forced to make games that aren't what they would want to make and are underfunded by the publishers

[@300Walk]

@@IanICee So you're a game developer?

[@IanICee]

@@300Walk nope, I just love games and because of that I do lots of research into most aspects of the industry

[@kaizenuchiha6076]

Idk if they've played mk11 because it had none of these systems in play 😂😂

[@curthastings2894]

Right! Seriously I was thinking the same thing, they must have meant MK 1 and just misspoke

[@theshadowking3198]

The fact that you don’t have all the characters in local if crazy but not even being able to test them in training is criminally insane

[@JamFMc2011]

Don't comment often on this channel but have to give credit that these guys are so down to earth and spit facts which is such a breath of fresh air. Never really expected this from what culture. what culture gaming are doing it right!

[@WDSimp]

This is how Warner Bros Discovery is. Making as much money as they can in the short term is their entire business plan right now, because they need that money on hand to pay off the massive debt hole they're in. So any product they put out is going to be geared, first and foremost, toward making the most money possible as quickly as possible - even if that means cutting short the lifespan of that product. Multiversus is doomed to be monetized aggressively, it's players milked dry, and then being unceremoniously shut down the instant that it isn't making enough of a profit to justify keeping it running. Which is a shame because it's a fun game and both the players and the developers deserve better.

[@ChaotixSplash]

They also got rid of allowing players to play as everyone in local mode

[@wesleysolomon5364]

Taking cues from Disney's Speedstorm I see.

[@robertstull8759]

The very final point you made bares repeating... just like you said WB did this with MK11, MK1, Suicide Squad, etc. They're going to keep doing this door-in-face style "negotiation" with their customers because it keeps working. Fans keep coming back time and time again. So why should they change their business model. It's working for them for now. And that for now part is extra insidious, because as a mega-corp their only concerns are quarterly earnings. So they're going to gauge now and worry about the fallout later.

[@Martynde]

if i want to see the WB characters on screen fighting or doing funny things, i'll watch the cartoon or movie they are from.

[@Stjurgeon]

That argument would render most video games pointless. Also, I can't recall the last time I've seen the Gremlins, Velma Dinkley and Batman in the same cartoon/movie.

[@Martynde]

@@Stjurgeon there was an old Scooby Doo / Batman crossover episode in like the 70s. Scooby Doo used to crossover with everyone back then including the three stooges and the Addams family.

[@lennywright5655]

@@Stjurgeon it’s attitudes like that, will help assure predatory practices continue.

[@Stjurgeon]

@@lennywright5655 Attitudes like what? Wanting to see crossovers in video games?

[@A_Sketchy]

​@@Stjurgeon Idk what bro is on

[@DeathByZombieGames]

Thank god people are talking about this stuff. Everything they have in the game is so expensive for no reason like skins were so cheap in the beta idk why I have to pay like 25 bucks for a terrible skin now. Hopefully people don't buy anything and force them to lower the prices.

[@ryanpledger9333]

Yeah…if I didn’t get the battle pass for free, I wouldn’t be putting as much time into it as I am now.

[@theshadowking3198]

The battle pass is so grindy too I hate how you don’t get match exp

[@dwanpol-lovesdonuts]

Warner Bros mistakes the self-destruct button for the ignition

[@kxmode]

WB should charge $70 for the game and be done with it. Unlock all the characters and let me people just play the full experience.

[@theshadowking3198]

Eh this game is only worth 30 at most

[@kxmode]

@@theshadowking3198$70 so they can stop the charade.

[@theshadowking3198]

@@kxmode no 70 is a scam

[@kxmode]

@@theshadowking3198 But somehow they'll make way more than $30 or $70 from whales who want to epeen everyone else. Either $30 OR $70 would have been better. No P2W nonsense.

[@TheCanineContrarian]

Joker shapelessly having Snake's forward Smash verbatum is just blatantly disrespectful

[@ViewtifulJae]

Snake can’t aim it and actually shoot it at a distance like joker tho

[@FlightX101]

Its really not lol….joker has always used RPG’s so its fine

[@samcrow4640]

Joker used a rocket launcher before Solid Snake even existed.

[@sarriominski3756]

Joker used rpgs better and before snake

[@xemlyrics]

Smash did not invent bread with butter either, my guy. Get a grip.

[@supernova582]

If one company does it and it works all other companies will copy it.

[@MarshmallowYums]

At 4.5k of that currency, I've only played under 4 hours... No idea where these guys got 80 hours. I haven't spent money.

[@Stjurgeon]

Yeah, I bought Batman about two days ago, and after about 4 more hours of playing I have just bought Superman. The numbers don't add up.

[@yungsix4493]

Same haha

[@deeshotcha2250]

Right I got joker my 2nd day they just hating

[@sharmanz6291]

I bought joker 2 days ago and collected 3.4 since and I play around 3 hours per day (no real money invested)

[@Thomaswake]

@@deeshotcha2250 you got 6k in two days? Have you seen the sun?

[@josesosa3337]

Can anyone explain the yellow clock on the character select screen??( For some character portraits.)

[@SuperBabyMario0C]

Those are characters that are free to use for now. Meaning they are on a limited time. I’d you have them anyways it doesn’t matter. It’s for those who don’t have them n want to try them out

[@gfear24]

This is why I keep saying the PS2/XBox/GameCube era was the peak gaming era. Once the 360/PS3 era started and online gaming became more prevalent and widespread, it's been all about catering to shareholders who have never held a controller over catering to gamers. The "chasing trends" era started in full force with that 360/PS3 era. It's also the start of the microtransaction era, which has only gotten worse since.

[@kevincroft3087]

You also get character currency with each character at level 5,10 and 14

[@chadflanaganCFC]

WB's video game division needs to be gutted and reorganized when corporations like Ubisoft, and especially EA aren't doing half of the greedy cash grabbing that WB is doing with their latest projects is just sad.

[@PressR2andDelete]

Some games don’t even allow you to unlock characters Via progression hints to call of duty and MK I’m happy that progression based unlocks are back in video games regardless of the time

[@somebodynowhere]

personally Ive enjoyed the rifts as an inclusion. it gives me a way to knock out mostly of my dailies without having to worry about super sweaty people in multiplayer

[@definitelynotbutmaybe4610]

The best Free-to-Play game I've ever played was Gotham City Imposters. Super fun, didn't beat you to death with currencies, and then it was gone, like a memory of a dream....

[@sleepydan9818]

Path of Exile always comes to mind whenever this F2P topic comes up. That game made millions just selling cosmetics and bigger player stashes. That's it. You can play that game over and over again with any build you want 100% for free. You only pay to look cool and hoard more items.

[@famijher]

So, I heard a story a few months ago which shows how BS the Free to Play arguement is in reality. Apparently, a Minister got arrested for stealing around $48,000 from the church coffers. The Reason? He was playing Candy Crush Saga.

[@SC2arc88]

i just realized that since u cant practice with the characters u dnt own it means that u have to save up the currency to unlock a character u may never even want to play.

[@StudMuffin750]

What makes this game great is that PFG is generally transparent and they care about what the community thinks a lot more than a majority of other game companies, but, it WB is behind the scummy monetization, PFG has very little control over it. Theres a lot riding on the shoulders of the 16 devs who made this game to fix it, and I hope they do.

[@Wergoheb]

Having to actually play the rifts to to progress isn't my problem, it's the gem leveling to unlock harder difficulties. Rifts are pretty unfun at the lower difficulties.

[@derekstein6193]

1:25 Damn, Warner Brothers! Trying to one-up EA's Star Wars Battlefront 2. Not only by a little bit, but actually doubling the amount of time to unlock a character in Multiverses than what was needed in Battlefront 2 (80 vs 49 hours). Somebody is trying to reach the top of the leaderboards for being the biggest stain on the gaming industry.

[@Snowfreak357]

It’s like every year they find a way to make free 2 play more expensive

[@kmart2099]

It doesn't help that some players are asking if they'll be able to just purchase tiers/unlocks in the future because they don't have the time to play (aka grind the 40-80 hours to unlock some content).

[@ButhyHolly]

The only thing you “have to” pay for are cosmetics. You can earn all characters by playing the game. All perks can be earned by playing the game. I played the beta I got 99% of my content back I’m only missing a banner that I’ve noticed. As far as fighter currency while you don’t get much per match by doing quests you get lots I’ve earned like 20,000ish in a week and I work a lot I haven’t been able to invest as much time as I wanted to. The whole idea of monetization ruining the game is blown way out of proportion

[@alexhiras7408]

here is my best solution. put it on 80 euros . unlimited cosmetic only battle passes , every and future hero free and pay the developers from the publishers . they have enough bilions already

[@austindrake4697]

WB is gonna have to pay me to play anything else they ever churn out now.

[@mxmadifae]

Good on y’all giving a shoutout for Jenny’s vid on Galactic Starcruiser, it’s a really stupendous piece

[@asudevil316]

It is moronic and was made by a hack with no grasp on reality

[@calebray1834]

I was able to get Iron Giant after a few minutes of playing.

[@glitchglitch3079]

It's a trap to make you think that it's easy to unlock them

[@theshadowking3198]

Yeah you can get enough currency for one character quickly at first but after that things really slow down

[@davienpeaks6757]

After putting 25 hours into the release, completing two experienced rifts, completing daily and event quests everyday, playing a multitude of PvP games, and leveling up 5 characters to level five, I was able to unlock the joker. I could not imagine trying to unlock a character without doing ALL of these steps. I enjoy the core gameplay but at this point after the failures of MK1 and SSKTJL, WB is going to monetize this game into the ground

[@darkchaozbringer785]

Please look into and make another video about how many beta/founder players are missing some/most/all of the items they bought/earned in the beta, yet the team is remaining silent about it.

[@ericmacgillivray537]

Took me 3 days to unlock joker playing every once in awhile

[@HADOxFIGHTER]

That's what I'm saying, it took me about 4 to 5 hours, I don't get the 80hours thing.

[@ericmacgillivray537]

@@HADOxFIGHTER a lot of people suck at it so they pretend it's bad lol

[@lunasif]

The really sad thing is if you push back the investors (the actual customers) will drop off like flies, that's happened to a few games like Diablo 3. Plus pump and dumps are all the rage in finance these days, they're literal get rich quick schemes. So why wouldnt they do that to games they dont care about?

[@jasiah1154]

Thank you for speaking on these issues. I loved the beta this new release is so grindy especially only being able to level up the battle pass via challenges and not gameplay. Also character progression is so slow and grindy. The multiverses content creators aren’t even speaking on the monitization issues. They want to talk about theories for new characters instead of the real issues plaguing this game.

[@Lynxan]

I am enjoying it, though I had the whole roster unlocked before they took it off and even was playing once in a while durring the time it was offline only.

[@Sigmaairav]

The best free to play models for gaming that I have encountered are Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel and Team Fortress 2 (before the bot apocalypse ruined it). Master Duel makes it pretty reasonable to collect cards and build decks to challenge the meta or be casual without spending a penny. The option to buy the gem currency with real money is there but the game doesn't make it a grindy time sink as it is very generous in awarding players with gems for free just for playing the games various modes normally I find the free to play model of master duel to be a gold standard for reasonable ftp models with in game monetization; The most reasonably designed ftp game I ever played. I got every card and deck could want and got it all for free with minimal time expended to acquire said cards

[@dariendarkhouse8538]

I wonder if capping salaries and bonuses for executives to 10 million a year would allow the developers to get paid better? Then the executives would only be making an exorbitant amount more than the president, not borderline infinitely more, but they'd get by

[@SilverSpectre266]

Its wild how normalized its become to even spend that much money for a character or skin. Before when this all started it was like $5-10. And even that was deemed a stretch by some people. Youd be hard pressed to find them that "low priced" now. And people will die on that hill and justify this stuff is the crazy. Another thing is that, under most circumstances, most people would play these types of games for hours and days on end normally. But because the battlepass has added a latee of FOMO and "gotta get it done quick", to the point it becomes a job and you have to log in constantly and play constantly to unlock stuff it makes it more stressful. Ive heard more people talk about playing this constantly for unlocks rather than them having fun with it. The thing is though, this will never change. At least not here in the West. The only way for it to change is if the govt was the step in and force a change like what some other countries did for Battlefront loot boxes. The industry and the people who run it and have power cannot be trusted to make those changes and realistically have no reason to make significant changes or stop. But when the govt steps in to stop them, normal people, not even the execs, but normal freaking people get tight about it and that they are overstepping their boundaries even if its to their benefit. When again, the industry isnt going to change itself. Even if they listen to an outcry and make some changes, its always minor and more so them finding loopholes to do it, but to a smaller degree.

[@dcuokallader7255]

Joker take maybe 6-7h to unlock by levelling character and doing task

[@Rattrap007]

I am so glad I never get into these types of games. I play solo. Just got back into PS stuff a few months ago with a PS5. Played Spiderman 2, GTAV (hadn't played since XB360), and now focused on Yakuza Like a Dragon. Pay once, play a story for 40+ hours. No needing to keep paying $ to unlock constant new stuff like a simple figure. A full DLC story? Sure I'll fork over some money for that. But a fighter for a game? Nah.

[@IanICee]

The beta was trash too because of the pay stuff

[@ryanrowe1975]

Insane companies

[@charliesaldivar5014]

Does anyone else agree that good bundles should be around ten bucks

[@FuzzyHuggs]

Games like this should have to reclassify themselves as Demos and not Free to Play. A consumer will never have a quality, full-game experience without paying. These video game companies are drug cartels, offering a consumer a free taste and hoping to get the consumer hooked, and then pushing their product on the consumer as much as possible to get them addicted and constantly buying as much as possible. It's gross, primarily, as many of these games are targeted toward children.

[@The1stGiant]

Literally, just use fighter tickets or whatever they’re called the little tickets that instantly unlock whatever character you want to spend them on. I already have a joker already have every character visibly showing on the roster at the moment. didn’t have to pay a thing, and got all of them on day two of the games release. Why day two because that’s about how long it took me to figure it out for myself that that was a possibility. I didn’t really look into it that much before that so it’s kind of my fault, but come on people it took me less than a day meeting. It’s really surprising if there wasn’t anyone who figured it out on day one.

[@lennoxoconnell5541]

The grind for Smash Bros Ultimate was quite timely. However, I paid $60, and although grindy, I never had to pay a dime more. Then they had a pass for the other 6-7(?) fighters. Why does Nintendo have this down pat but no one else can figure it out?

[@calumjune2908]

In the current gaming landscape more games feel like a job than feeling like a game, maybe it's how my brain interprets the time spent but even single player games are filling themselves with the most obnoxious bloat

[@brenduchy95]

Similar thing is happening in disney speedstorm 😞

[@greenbeastzm]

I grinded less time than you think. Granted im a beta tester but i love the grind reminds me of back in the day games

[@RobotnikPlngas]

Aquatic man is my favorite super hero

[@artisticvisionary00]

Remember when it was just gold and gleamium? Yeah when the beta is better than full launch we really gotta look at leadership. PFG is extremely communicative with the community but to rebuild the game for the sake of the Netcode on a completely different engine is wild to me. GGST initially had delay until they reworked it for rollback but MVS was already on it so iterating and improving doesn't require the changing of UE4 to UE5 is inefficient and poor leadership. The beta could've benefited massively from features present now and incorporated into the foundation the UE4 Open beta established. The battlepass progression was not egregious as it is now but could've used some work. The real topic of conversation amongst the monetization present, but was the engine swap justified?

[@joemccollom3031]

As a free to play player and having a 40+ hour work week i have already got joker and halfway to a 3000 character so i think the whole 80 hours is a bit disingenuous and you can get character tokens from multiple different places than just the pvp battles

[@kevincroft3087]

Kind of crazy. I work a 40hr/week job and was able to unlock joker no problem with like 4 other characters. As far as the rift system it's great and it having missions locked behind certain prerequisites isn't a problem. You eventually get them as rewards. Blah. Such a fun game

[@bookeworm]

Along a similar line: Fortnite just released a Lethal Company collab skin that costs more than the Lethal Company game itself.

[@Chris4Battle]

I paid for the Batman skin and I emailed them and still haven’t received an email back . Still no clean Batman skin.

[@MoneyMike23]

My character lvls Didn’t transfer but my wins did plus joker was the first I got with fighter currency

[@Ish0893]

It does not take 80 hrs to unlock Joker LOL. These dudes did not play that much. If you do the Rifts, Daily Missions, Events, and Level up the fighters you get that 6K currency pretty quick The main issue currently is the Battle Pass progression and not able to use all the Fighters in Training mode

[@GeeklyVideos]

Exactly in the past week I’ve only managed to play around 2-3 hours a day probably not even that and I’ve got nearly 3 and already had 3 beforehand which I used to get Rick

[@warmonger_365]

People getting lazy and DNT want to grind at all

[@jaughnekow]

@@warmonger_365 gaming is meant to be fun not tiring...

[@warmonger_365]

@@jaughnekow it's also meant to have content that will last an not so easy to get,u want hand outs and r lazy😑grind a little.....the only thing tiring you out is life...not the games buddy

[@A_Sketchy]

​@@jaughnekowgames like this are also supposed to be replayable to survive so to ensure that they make goalposts to reward you for playing it more it's not a story focus game it's a fighting game that's how they work. You can argue they can find a better way to do it or improve on what they are doing

[@varg1231]

The game doesn’t even control that well. The controls are super clunky and the flow feels staggered with animation delays. The hits don’t feel like they have much weight to them.

[@lennywright5655]

Yeah, I’ll just stick with Smash Bros. ($60 for the whole game, about $5 per DLC character)

[@gamerdudeforlife101]

Im just mad because i bought the pack that had the most unlock tickets and cant use them to unlock agent smith. Literally this is what i get for saving my tickets for characters i actually want.

[@matrixguardian4539]

I always thought F2P games had a stigma around them. I’d say the game should’ve been $30 from the get go and all the monetization BS gone.

[@makielcepeda9003]

Yup their greed loses the game again and again

[@konradzukowski213]

I'm not a fan of fighting games in general, but from everything I've heard WB made the full release of this game worse than the beta, ranging from balancing/monetary changes that negatively impact players to straight out removing features that were present. The last time I've heard of beta being better than a full release was with Back 4 Blood and (probably) we all know how this ended up

[@jesusrosa9939]

What kill it immediately was that on the beta you could use all characters on local multiplayer. Now you can't. So whats the point

[@Insanemonk11]

I'm amazing they released it, with it looking so janky and robotlike

[@jaimekloth]

its Star wars battlefront 2 all over again.

[@cartoonjunky9913]

I have been waiting it to come back since the beta. I have genuinely enjoyed my time so far with the game

[@itsallrigged7295]

Honestly the whole idea was gonna be like this from the start It really was WB saying “we can do a smash bros” that’ll make us some cash

[@SakuragiSan]

Predatory Practices run out of Steam as fast as the Quality/Fun of the product is shown on Launch, when the users are presented with choices recenlty, they pick not to spend time/money on something so heavy-farming oriented

[@user-cr4st7id8p]

The Banana guard is fan favourite

[@Bman32x]

Wish I could play as him. Way too costly.

[@Nebiroze]

​@@Bman32x blantantly disingenious, you get them free for logging in for 2 days

[@XXGHOSTWRLD]

@@Bman32xyou just exposed yourself…you haven’t played the game 💀he’s literally free

[@requiem9167]

Is it actually 80 hrs to unlock joker? Lol. With battlepass, missions, profile level up, character level up I bought 2 characters already. That is also 6k It’s definitely slow, but I think this is an exaggeration. Maybe you meant it that way and im just oblivious lol.

[@elin111]

You spent money on for the battle pass so you lost

[@requiem9167]

@@elin111 its a free battle pass lol

[@TheZombieOG]

Im enjoying the game, but im starting to notice that it does take forever to unlock stuff without paying. This game is very greedy and i know it but i enjoy it too much to stop.

I really like the new gameplay over the beta's!

[@GNCD2099]

What else is new?

[@glitchglitch3079]

30+h as a freetoplay and i'm close to unlock my 3rd character. This game have so many problems and missing features