Musical Secrets & Trivia: Sonic the Hedgehog - #2

[@pokshimin]

I think the Kirby series would be good for this because they have a *lot* of musical Easter eggs. Most of the franchise is composed by the the same two people, and they often turn songs into leitmotifs that they'll use a lot. For example, the little song that plays in the cutscene after you defeat Marx in Kirby Super Star, Kirby s Triumphant Return, is used in a lot of climactic moments in the Kirby series, like in Fly! Kirby of the Stars, C-R-O-W-N-E-D, and Vs. Star Dream (this one specifically is a quote from Havoc Aboard the Halberd, which itself uses Kirby's Triumphant Return)

[@nooshstuff]

that one descending motif in robobot makes me cry

[@martinmnagell2894]

Green Greens alone is an incredibly complicated piece in terms of its usage. It's existed in every Kirby game and all Kirby games after Planet Robobot (aside from Dream Buffet at the time of writing) have been some remix of the Robobot version of Green Greens. Green Greens is also present in every final boss theme as far as I'm aware (once again aside from Forgotten Land at the time of writing). (Side note: they really went out of their way to use very little of the older motifs in Forgotten Land to really show that you're in another world.) As for all the motifs you have Mt. Dedede, New World, Galacta/Morpho Knight, and the ones mentioned above. Then theres also how many tracks have these motifs because of their relevance in the lore (which is a whole other can of worms that I really love getting into) As for the main names of people who have influenced Kirby music, their year of joining HAL and when they really started making a difference to the series music: Hirokazu Ando, joined 1991, was there from the start of Kirby (major influence on Kirby and Smash sound track) Jun Ishikawa, joined 1990, was there from the start of Kirby (major influence on Kirby sound track) Shogo Sakai, joined 1996, started working with Smash Melee, Nightmare in Dreamland, Air Ride (pretty big influence on both Kirby and Smash sound track) If there is one thing that I think makes Kirby special and different from other games is that you can clearly feel the love HAL has for their adorable pink puffball of a child.

[@donovanstewart698]

Honestly, I’d be interested in seeing a version of this for the Zelda series, seeing as they reuse a bunch of motifs throughout the games (and I just think Zelda music is neat)

[@vrb-.]

Like how skyward swords main theme is just Zelda's lullaby reversed.

[@donovanstewart698]

@@vrb-. exactly

[@TurbopropPuppy]

she should do it for Kirby games like people wanna talk about motifs, sheesh

[@frogurt6809]

but nintendo vaporise her video and send her channel into the shadow realm

[@i.m.nick.]

It’s a good day when Bizabizow posts

[@splitsee2526]

It's an even better day when Bill Wurtz posts

[@Missmay123p]

@@splitsee2526 it’s the best day when both of them post

[@splitsee2526]

​@@Missmay123pit's impossible to describe how much of a insane day it is when all of your subscribed channels upload in the same day

[@hyphen_puck]

1,000 channels that I'm subscribed to post on the same day? I would die from the amount of insane radiating off off that feeling.

[@mrcool9090]

you know, i really enjoyed hearing the stuff about the same samples popping up in diffrent songs. I am a rhythm game player and in rhythm games alot of the same samples pop up in songs over and over again to the point where it becomes memes. its honestly really fun to hear something you recognize from one context be put into a seperate one

[@katswarrior]

8:22 I can't believe sonic is like. Consistently black coded in the classic era. He has ancestors who were Egyptian and even important enough to be mummified in both SATam and Underground.

[@vivyblue]

16:27 I am convinced that Burning Man's Soul is going to haunt me for the rest of my life. This is the third time this week I have heard it without even looking for it. Why is my life like this.

[@lssjgaming1599]

It lives rent free in my mind. If my brain was a house the song would be like carpet

[@gigabyte6614]

Both of those raps come from the exact same library too!

[@shyguyonostrich]

11:30 Just to painfully add another layer to this section, I would like to add that the Sonic World theme from Sonic Jam is also used in Sonic Classic Collection more or less outright.

[@jadetealaaron2003]

Sonic Classic Collection was legit my childhood Sonic Collection

[@sonikko8979]

It's also used in Sonic Pocket Adventure for Neo South Island act 1.

[@SunnyGovai]

and origins main menu obv

[@Rolli_Zolli]

I love how I knew exactly what all that talk about the connection between Mania and Forces was leading up to. I love little motifs that connect bits of a game's story, but when it connects _multiple_ games' stories!? HOO, boy, that's SPICY!

[@DefNotVorxelboth]

I’ve never played a sonic game but I’ll be damned if that’ll stop me from watching a new Biz video 😤

[@BroToastR]

I seriously recommend them, they are awesome!

[@2bruhiscool]

Play sonic 2

[@cheesebatto]

at the very least give most soundtracks a listen sonic music is crazy good for no reason

[@ViktorErikFade]

You could play sonic generations which combines old and new together so you could feel caught up lol . Or play a stage or two of the o.g But you don't have to

[@whyulil9956]

If you play one don’t start with Mania start with a 3D game that isn’t Forces or 06 even tho I like 06

[@ultimateknux2402]

One of my favorite bits of music trivia in the Sonic series is how "Green Hills Zone" (not Green HILL zone) from the Game Gear/Master System version of Sonic 2 includes essentially a full 8-bit version of "You Can Do Anything" which would appear a year later in Sonic CD's Japanese soundtrack. I don't think that one's very obscure but I thought it was neat. Another subtle bit of a trivia (or subtle for me at least) is the piano that plays at the beginning of "Never Turn Back" from Shadow the Hedgehog, being that it's a piano version of the chorus to "I Am... All of Me" from the same game. I don't know if that one is as obscure but I didn't notice it at first until I saw someone who had pointed it out. However, a very noticeable musical reference is in Episode II of Sonic 4, in White Park Act 2 there's a small portion of the song that sounds identical to Pleasure Castle (Twinkle Park) from Sonic Adventure, so there's some more Sonic Adventure ties for ya. To delve even further on this, Twinkle Park itself is a song recycled from another song found in a demo take for Sonic 3D Blast, being an unused Knuckles Bonus Stage theme. So, just in case Sonic 3D Blast didn't have enough musical influence on the series as well as Sonic Adventure, there's another one that's maybe a little more unknown. Lastly, I want to address something that, if I remember correctly, I stumbled into on my own by accident. In Sonic Gems Collection, there are many unlockable songs that you can play in that collection's museum. The unlockable track I want to talk about is "Sonic 2690 Mix" which at first might seem to be it's own unique remix related to Sonic CD made for this collection, however the song has an origin that is traced back before Sonic CD was even released. The track seemingly originates from a promotional video for Sonic CD through "SEGA Video Magazine" which were VHS cassettes distributed only in Japan and showed off upcoming games for Sega consoles at the time. Sonic Gems Collection has another unlockable song called "Sonic After 2690 Mix" however I'm unsure if the song also comes from another one of these "video magazines." Just a handful of songs I thought had interesting trivia, awesome video as always Bizabizow!

[@ranchcow46993]

Here is some trivia I am aware of in certain Sonic songs: -Savannah Citadel Day from Sonic Unleashed samples the credits theme of Sonic 1 for the Game Gear/Master System -Jungle Joyride Day (again from Unleashed) samples the instrumental version of Back In Time from Sonic R

[@Marshall.R]

Another dope ass music trivia video by Bizabizow, very cool

[@Amphibian42]

Finally she returns with more sustenance to hold us over

[@RyderMK]

1:40 Honestly that’s really cool how they snuck that one in there, even after hours of playing Mania (and reluctantly Forces), I’ve never noticed this before.

[@drooprtroopr6969]

Cat Chao. Cat Chao. Also, I think that music used in the Sonic Jam hub is also used in another collection of classic Sonic games, with the DS collection using it in the menu theme. I should know since I own the game.

[@fleshyferret664]

Seeing this in my notifications right after watching a whole ass character analysis on Shadow felt oddly good.

[@sonikko8979]

The Masterbits sample disk is entirely on KZbin. There's so many samples from it, including LOTS of Hideki Naganuma's music (the only Sonic Rush one was Bomber Barbera), the 'okay' from the beginning of Unknown from me version 2, the 'up and down and all around' from Speed Highway, and even the 'get down' from Stardust Speedway.

[@felymunoz6572]

Didn't expect a sequel, but yay! :D

[@Wyrmington]

"Hehehe Chili Dogs" - Sonic the Hedgehorg

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

Here's a piece of Michael Jackson related trivia that's also related to the movie: Speed Life, the song used for the French dub of the movie, lifts the main chorus from Rockwell: Somebody's Watching Me (1984). This may seem rather odd at first, but given that Michael Jackson provided guest vocals for the original song (and it's his portion specifically that's lifted), not unlike his contributions to the soundtrack of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (1994), it can be considered a full circle tribute.

[@ApocalypticAnarchy01]

I love your sonic videos! My boyfriend is a mega old-school sonic fan cuz it was his first favorite series growing up so learning about music he loves is super fun to share with him!

[@Gavman2105]

Why doesn't this have more likes? Your humor is fantastic

[@HYPNOBUGS]

this video is so awesome i love you bizabizow! i love 15:06 it's so funny btw wheres fnaf plushies part 9? I'm a big fan and i look forward to it :) EDIT: oops sorry! typo! hehee 🤣

[@Bizabizow]

To quote the character of Niki Lauda from the 2013 movie "Rush" about Funko's FNAF merch quality: "It's amazing. All these facilities, and you make a piece of crap like this?"

[@HYPNOBUGS]

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[@mura-myra]

apparently the “Up and down all around” from speed highway is a sound sample from the same track the “get down” sample in stardust speedway ‘B’ is from

[@Galfubo]

Zelda definitely that series is filled with so many musical references a life long fan probably hasn’t heard all of them

[@gaminglakitu]

Honestly, since you already got on topic with the last factoid, I would honestly be down for other fighting games to be covered. GG or Third Strike would probably seem like ones that would fit the mold of the show well imo. Keep up the great work too!

[@wendaythepotato2979]

Ironically I knew about the Fist Bump melody in the Mania Final Boss but not about the High Spec Robo Go melody

[@QualityGarbage]

Same! That & the Star Light Zone section in Sonic Origin's main menu (had to listen twice to hear that one)

[@cinema_roll6296]

bizposting make me shoot green liquid from my joy glands

[@amesstarline5482]

Looks like there's a closer connection between Fatboy Slim and Sonic after all- Skip to my Loops' Norman Cook is him, and he's one of Naganuma's music inspirations for Sonic Rush and the Jet Set Radio series. As is a vague JoJo connection, as both Sonic and JoJo have referenced James Brown.

[@seereebee]

I just wanted to say that you're one of my favorite content creators currently. That's all

[@milesmaniahz]

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[@johnnymonday9221]

Woohoo another upload! I love your videos so much

[@treva4eva467]

CALMING AURA? the blue spheres music always makes me go into a panic attack when I play the stages, the music slowly but surely increases in speed as the level does. Truly panic inducing.

[@VirtuaMaster]

The same song that was in Sonic Origins that was in Sonic Jam also made an appearance in Sonic Pocket Adventure, Neo Green Hill Act 1 specifically. After the first act, they go on to remix Sonic 3 music tracks for some strange reason.

[@juliewinchester1488]

5:15 ...is there something wrong with Michael Jackson that I don't know about...?

[@toadboydude5015]

I love these videos they genuinely help with my anxiety.

[@Lumpus]

new biz videos are always a treat

[@GAMEandRODO]

11:50 The Sonic World song is also re-used on the 2010 compilation "Sonic Classic Collection" for the Nintendo DS as the title theme as well, it was also the last time Sonic 3 was re-released before Origins.

[@Kyezoar]

Heck yeah another Bizabizow video!

[@Fizzycherrypop]

Another fantastic video. You're sounding great by the way. Keep it up Biz! ,♥️

[@waypastcoolkid]

I loved this!!! You did such a great job!

[@andymcclurg9916]

In the words of the immortal 50 Cent, "Let's go, Bizabizow uploaded."

[@mocha_dreamzzz]

YESSSS MORE BIZABIZOW CONTENT WOOOOOOOOOO

[@lonely_demon8476]

A little tidbit i think would help this series is if you always state which part of the tracks you play that we should listen to (melody, baseline, chords, drums/beat etc.) as it's always hard for me to tell which part of a track you want us to listen to Sometimes you do specify beforehand when you mention 'they are similar melodically' or 'they took the bass part of this track', but often times you just say you noticed a similarity or that a track as been repurposed or has a reference, without saying what part of the track needs to be paid attention to I noticed this more with the mario tracks since they often would use the same styling or composition as opposed to the same melody, which, of course, is the easiest to listen to and recognise This led to a lot of going back and relistening during those videos because i entirely missed the focus of musical trivia, which is a shame for them to be missed on a first watchthrough Keep making this amazing content and fingers crossed for less copyright bititng you in the ass!

[@7grandmac]

Wake up babe, new Bizabizow video!

[@Bengt2509]

In the super sonic theme of generations the opening bit is definitely meant to be a live and learn refrence

[@kiwitheleafeon]

11:38 also appears in sonic classic collection (they really like this song for collection games of the exact same games)

[@lssjgaming1599]

16:26 Omg is that Burning Men's Souls that song slaps fr. Just like Chef Boyardee those rhymes be truly cooking

[@J_Ciner]

I'm so so happy you mentioned Fist Bump in Mania, it's been one of my favorite pieces of trivia in the game for so long. Also the audio jungle bit fuckin got me haha. All the trivia in here is stuff that I thought I was the only person who knew and it's so cool to see this stuff getting some recognition, thank you for this!!!

[@Zinkolo]

Sonic 3 proto tracks sound great and are way better than the reiterations. Carnival nights zone sounds slammin' in the prototype.

[@lyxpup]

the sonic adventure section of this video had stuff i never knew about! this was a great video

[@corbinbelle8082]

Your content reminds me a lot of PJiggles, and I Like it :)

[@sugarbun9036]

Fuck yes I get to listen to 18 more minutes of Biza's soft and calming voice

[@pumpkindof]

You're one on the only KZbinrs I look forward to an upload from, I hope to see more interesting facts about things I didn't even really know or care about until now!

[@rrlilac]

the Sonic World music (at 11:49) was also used for Neo South Island (Act 1) of Pocket Adventure, and for the menu music of Classic Collection on DS

[@gooolixx]

seeing your videos pop in my notifications is a euphoric feeling! i love your videos

[@nrsanford4438]

Ok, this is probably really well known but in Sonic Mania's nod to Mean Bean Machine boss in Chemical Plant Act 2 the boss music that plays is actually a remix of the final boss music from the original Puyo Puyo on the Sega Genesis

[@lostglaceon9274]

I'm pretty aware of all that's presented in this vid (music happens to be my favorite aspect of... almost any medium, really). Another fun fact about Forces "Fist Bump" theme I've noticed is that it also took a motif from Sonic Heroes' Seaside Hill, 58 seconds into said track. I just thought it was neat that it shared DNA with another Sonic game about working together as a "team"!

[@arandomgamer9317]

The sonic jam overworld theme is also used in the “Sonic Classic Collection” game for the DS

[@midnightsocean2689]

Great vid! I was wondering if you were ever going to get another one of these out. These kinds of vids are why I started watching you. Omg I never knew there were so many different sample sources in sonic 3. James Brown should not surprise anyone. EVERYONE and their dog sampled him in the 90s to the point where entire genres of 90s music revolved around said samples.

[@quadcombo1176]

Since I absolutely love Sonic Rush, I noticed in Sonic Rush Adventure the track Big Swell which plays during the normal final boss fight, uses the motif from the first Sonic Rush's true final boss theme, Wrapped in Black. Also a sample of Wrapped in Black in used in the first Sonic Rush's Game Over theme.

[@trash-lol]

literally today i was thinking about wanting a sequel yippee!!

[@Rabbit_invader1]

Dang I love learning about new tid-bit's from the music I love! Great job on the vid and I can't wait for the next one.

[@KirbyFan4411]

I'd be interested in a kirby version for this series, it has a ton of motifs throughout the series (mostly green greens and kirby's triumphant return from super star)

[@coffinmilk]

this trivia is at a level of obscurity that has now cemented u as a cybershell tier sonic lore master. i love ur channgel............... please.... more blue guy content.......

[@uhoh1289]

I always attributed the Sonic Jam music to Sonic Classic Collection for the DS, because it plays when you are looking at the different images included in the game. It's really nice to finally know it's original source!

[@mamadev7687]

17:08 that's me!!!! i'm the skrunkly!!!!!

[@1snivy10]

It's a good morning when Bizabow uploads

[@HungryBeanEater]

I got another piece of a musical secret for Sonic, the beginning sound of the Chao Lobby theme from SA2 (which I have no idea how to desribe) is straight from Wacky Workbench Zone Good Future in Sonic CD, I never see anybody mention this. You can find the sound I mentioned at around 13-15 seconds into Wacky Workbench Good Future theme.

[@AT7outof10]

Similar to that last sample used across several games; one I that I found out about was "So dance, while I put you in a trance" which I noticed immediately cuz it showed up in Persona 3 and Star Ocean 3. It was so weird hearing the same lyrics in two rpgs I was playing around the same time.

[@raccoon2968]

I love this woman. Funny and goofy and great videos. As a girl this is very entertaining and cool to know more of the music of sonic as I grew up playing most of the games haha!

[@t-bird6853]

6:30 This is a real *PINGAS!* moment.

[@chantingmammal]

I love this, and I learned about the MJ Sonic 3 Copyright Fiasco thing but this is a nice video about the Secrets to the Music of the Sonic the Hedgehog Franchise!!!

[@thevenomspino]

Great video, but we do want to bring up something that you forgot to mention. The reason why people thought Jackson made Ice Cap Zone's theme is because the song "Hard Times" was unreleased until the later 2000s.

[@glitchedblood]

There are three more samples in Speed Highway. Two of them come from the x-static goldmine 2 cd (Party Time!, and You’re Right, duchess man!) The third one comes from the masterbits rapsody sample cd (Up and down and all around)

[@Chase-hv2lt]

I'd be happy with any game you choose, these videos are great and so informative. I know there's probably hundreds of game series that's have cool and interesting music. But Metroid is pretty dope

[@friiskyun]

Since we are talking about sonic music trivia, something I don’t hear a lot of people talk about is around the :56 second mark of supporting me (biolizard theme) there’s a little four note piece that sounds just like a part of Live and Learn! It’s cool since this song plays before Live and Learn, and I thought it was really cool to tie those two tracks together (Forces removed this cool little 4 note motif in their remix of the song and I’m still mad about it to this day)

[@Oretal]

There’s gotta be some trivia about TJ Davis, the lady who sang the music for Sonic R. I know you mentioned a song she sang in the previous episode called “It doesn’t really matter” I don’t have any neat trivia around her sadly but if you can dig up something that’ll be cool.

[@DE23]

In addition to being remixed in Origins, the Sonic Jam Sonic World theme also got used in the DS Sonic Classics Collection, and Sonic Pocket Adventure.

[@VikyGoil]

Fun little piece of trivia: If you slow down the Mania version of Stardust Speedway Act 2 at the chorus-like section, you can faintly hear the sound of Metal Sonic flying over to your house and doing your mom.

[@TeenyVGC]

Yooo your voice sounds so good!

[@koopydoopy8632]

I think this one is my current fav song trivia ep. I’d like you to do more with other sega characters like dynamite headdy ristar and maybe wild woody

[@GR34SRR]

YESSSSS i loved part one so excited to watch part 2!!!!!!

[@zan3501]

Wake up babe new bizabizow video dropped

[@Nerdatron7]

Hey Biz! I'd be really super stoked to see you fix more Smash alts, though I'll watch whatever content you want to put out 😊

[@connorbeith3232]

Didn’t know Fist Bump was in Mania, and I liked how Mania Adventures takes place directly after Forces with Classic Sonic waving to the ‘ modern cast.

[@abhbahjvcjhsvdjhvc3590]

my favorite and also very recent Sonic Music Thing is that the opening riff from Reach For The Stars plays at the end of One Way Dream, the hard mode credits theme for Frontiers! It freaked me out when I heard it because while listening to the song for the first time I was thinking "hmm this song is great also it kind of reminds me of reach for the stars" and then boom. reach for the stars opening riff starts playing

[@djimonmcdonald9085]

The first one everyone was hooting and hollering after fist bump came out.

[@EV-gb5rx]

Michael Jackson is innocent

[@AndresCraft918]

Woo new Bizabizow video, and on Sonic music Edit: a suggestion, Rhythm Heaven is cool

[@IrontwistFiM]

SO excited for when you eventually get around to sonic rush, godDAMN that game's got some good music

[@revolcasad1683]

A Bizabizow video about secret music trivia and leit motifs IN sonic?? Talk about a perfect video!!

[@risty8037]

As for the sonic origins menu music, not only sonic jam, it was also used in the DS sonic classics collection menu. They just like using that in games that actually had sonic 1-knuckles a lot

[@mxjuno1998]

i'm loving all of the content rn!! keep at it Ty!!

[@AlanDSi]

Can’t wait for a new forces rip from Silva now that this is more widely known

[@vampires4life]

my fav example is how in the cutscene in forces where infinite & shadow fight, it starts with shadows sa2 theme “throw it all away” then eventually, 1ce infinite getz pissy it plays an intense interpolation of infinites theme

[@thestateofohio1707]

Biz: says Sonics jam Me: DAMMIT

[@LuucasIckie]

Look who is back, the funny blue guy with an entire catalog of memes (and good songs of course)

[@Iggy30874]

Awesome video as always, Biz! For a future episode, I’d be interested in seeing some stuff about Pokémon, I love those games’ soundtracks.

[@jacktangent]

can't wait for that sonic rush episode, definitely my favourite sonic soundtrack! there's lots of stuff there that links to naganuma's other works like jet set radio, bomb rush cyberfunk and lethal league - and even some references to his work in sonic rush adventure, where he didn't compose the music.