MY DISAPPOINTMENT IS...LESSENED | TOLER TOOLS UNION/OMNILOCK PT.2 | Gear Review # 11

man, you guys really blew up that last video huh

[@tolertools4081]

I'm glad the tool reached you and I'm glad you find it useful. We're using all the feedback we get to refine our production and QC processes in these early days, so your earlier video was invaluable and I thank you. I do also hope you'll continue to use it and find some more of the functions and configurations available. I feel I should mention, the knife blade is not stainless, but D2 tool steel. D2 is near stainless in oxidation resistance, but known for toughness and edge holding ability. For those with smaller hands, you should be using the knife with the plier grip alone for a more svelte handle. I think you'll find the design could grow on you as your understanding blossoms. One thing I saw here is forcing the saw blades against the lock when you should be raising another blade to open the lock. Forcing it repeatedly could damage the lock over time. I'm glad you liked the wood saw blade, but you'll get much better performance from both saw blades by joining the tool for the pistol grip function. I get the feeling there is more for you discover, and I hope you take that opportunity. Thanks so much for being an early adopter. -Mike

[@TripleEEDC]

I’m just curious. I ordered one but never received it. Do you still have orders to fulfill from the campaign?

[@tolertools4081]

Yes. Please see the two latest updates on our Indiegogo site. Thanks so much for your support!

[@TripleEEDC]

@@tolertools4081 ok. I just saw the updates. The order was linked to my other email account.

[@richorosz7001]

I definitely look forward to mine, this gentleman just seems bitter about many things... i haven't had 1 in my hands yet, but im def optimistic, thank you so much for your awesome creation! The fact that you did this, 👏! Looks awesome!

[@AquaTech225]

@@tolertools4081 ready for mine also

[@Russwig]

Wait, You used a multi-tool to install a toilet? Do you not understand that a multi-tool is an emergency use or casual use device to allow you to deal with an unexpected situation? NOBODY expects a multi-tool to strand in for a dedicated tool except when said dedicated tool is unavailable. Use the proper tool for the proper job and stop expecting a multi-tool to fill in for a specialized piece of equipment! Again, what are your credentials and why should we care what you think?

[@jacktracy4845]

A multi tool should NEVER be compared to “stand alone analogs”. Never. They are not designed to replace your tool kit, your shop, or your garage. They are designed for all those time when you need a tool AWAY from those places and your “real” tools. Like, you know, CAMPING? Breakdowns? JFC. Nitpicking doesn’t describe this shit.

[@jaimzmyers3699]

I'm still very excited to receive mine

[@danielmccabe6559]

Shout out to mr Mike he is a gentleman. Not just because he sent out stuff because he works with his community. I knows this for a fact. Keep up the good work mr mike. Much respect from the McCabes.

[@curiousforwisdom2495]

Did anyone else cringe as he forced the saw back down without unlocking it? He hasn't retained any of the instructions of use. That being said, the plier handles not locking in place is a big concern of mine. I guess I'll find out if I like it when I get mine.

[@justinroberts1290]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, anyone who has used a leatherman should know better, it's the same system. I also agree with the plier handles, I love innovation, but a more conventional leatherman style folding system would make me more inclined to pursue this product.

[@aconsola1]

Great to see you got a good one. My first one matched your video with the hex holes not fully broached and all the other issues you mentioned. I contacted the company and to their credit quickly sent me a replacement. The replacement has all of the same issues I had with the first one plus more: a bunch of deep surface scratches in the body that were there before the finish was applied, with one on the edge that is through the finish. There are scratches in the finish around some of the small Philips screws and one that is not screwed in flush, sticking up above the body. Nearly all the Philips screws on the omnilock side were loose enough to turn 1/2-2 full turns using the driver bit with just my fingers. The small phillips bit has an issue with the detent ball, it does not stick up as far as the others, about .5mm shorter, and it falls right out of the storage area even when the ball is positioned to be pointed at the retention hole, proving yes, you can screw up a screwdriver bit. Overall worse impression of quality control on the second tool. I sent the replacement unit back and kept the original one. Hopefully they are improving the quality control as production ramps up. Maybe some day they will be on par with Leatherman, SOG and other industry standards and I'll have a rare first run collectible tool. for now it's in that drawer of stuff I forgot I have.

[@dragonstuff1983]

Same here. My replacement also has an issue where the knife gets stuck past its lock and I have to disassemble it to get it tucked away.

[@lifeinvader9032]

What I don’t understand is, how you got replacement faster than my order ?

[@Philbert-ex4zr]

I was gonna ask the same

[@YuhNinja]

Bad PR = oh shit, gotta fix this ASAP

[@howlongcanimakethisfukingthing]

Because he ordered and paid before you, received a defective product, and made a video about it. Everyone who has had a QC complaint has received a replacement and direct contact from mike. At the very least the guy is dedicated to making things right

[@lifeinvader9032]

@@howlongcanimakethisfukingthing let’s hope you’re right

[@SuperFordification]

If you love multitools just wait for yours to arrive. I full heartily belive Mike is the real deal and wants nothing more than to provide a quality product for an affordable price. Who knows maybe later we will get higher end union. I believe in Mike's dream.

[@thegabe7802]

"Stainless blade" Website and ads all say its D2...

[@tolertools4081]

Yes. D2. Thanks. -Mike

[@hmoreno1353]

I really enjoyed both part 1 and part 2 of your review of this tool. I totally agree with you on what you have said about it. I feel like Mike could really use your feedback to make improvements. I would like to see how each tool performs compared to your Leatherman. Thanks for the vids and keep up the good reviews!

[@2371Anita]

Ever want to get it out of your way! Please please let me know! I am really interested in this. But have no chance on ordering it! I'm from the Netherlands. And not many banks support Google pay. 🙏

[@seancampbell5496]

Wait.... so you used multi-tool pliers on a 3/8 nut, instead of the wrench on the other end? You enjoy doing things the challenging way?

[@madfab5723]

Absolutely

[@seancampbell5496]

Haha to each their own I suppose

[@dylanrexrode]

How did you get yours before me, when I ordered an entire year before you did?

[@michaelpratt5920]

This video helped me alot i guess ill wait for maybe a gen 2 union :(

[@caseyleonard1327]

How can the Leatherman compare with no wrench function?

[@TripleEEDC]

I’m still waiting on mine. I figured it would have or by now since you received yours a while ago. Glad to see this update though.

[@anthonywitman9934]

It is all about when you placed your order. Im like 4,800 so im not expecting mine for a month or so. Covid screwed up the manufacturing so you really cant blame toler for being late on shipments

[@sgsheff]

So leatherman has a hack saw on a few tools. The wave has one on the file as well as the surge and crunch. D2 isn't a stainless steel. It's a tool steel. I'm still waiting on mine and I don't have high expectations.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

The saws on the Leathermans are surprisingly good as I learned from Adam Savage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6WQe6mPp7ZratEm25s

[@topknotsrule]

I felt that the pro on that wood saw would be the length. The Leatherman saw would have plowed through that piece of wood easily.

[@Bob-lt5hf]

First of all I would not use this type of tool to install a toilet. The non locking handle on the pliers is a concern to me. This is a tool to use in a emergency when you have a lite small project like working on a mountain bike when your out and about. You seem too critical to me for a first run project. By the way, you did get a new tool and two sheaths so Tolar does stand behind their product.

[@Billhumphreys3370]

This is the same as the first "review", with um's and ah's throughout. The first review was mainly you slamming the tool, without, in your own words, not having even used it. Repeat. You reviewed the tool, and didn't even use any of the tools! And read the instructions next time. You also seem to have absolutely no idea how the wrench works. I don't believe you even tried it. And if any tradesman came to install a toilet and had only a multitool on his belt, I wouldn't let him in the door. Ummm.

[@richardfearnside3267]

If you don’t want it then you can give it to me. I’ve been waiting a year and a half and would really love mine. Hell I’ll even buy it from you. What would really be nice is if we would know where we were on the roster and could receive an estimate of when ours would be coming in. Mike if you read this that would be awesome. My order number was 6200

[@sethwheeler3531]

Close to your number, it's early July ETA I believe.

[@optimuscrime608]

The quality of the steel is the issue with these.

[@teedee3879]

To be fair, I don't wanna be THAT guy, but... You've now posted a second video full of complaints about this tool, but you also can't seem to master remembering to hit the 'record' button before you try and record a video? Twice now... Really? Mmmkay. Sounds good.

[@jeremytysiachney8170]

I was thinking the exact same thing😂

[@YuhNinja]

Epic fail.

[@cleantools4470]

Clearly a master at his craft

[@50scap3]

I think the tool is far more capable than you are skilled at using it.

[@SuperFordification]

I use damn near every multitool and this video made me want to start a KZbin channel.

[@50scap3]

@@SuperFordification Doesn’t mean you use them well.

[@SuperFordification]

I know I use them better than this guy....

[@50scap3]

@@SuperFordification ooops! sorry dude i thought you WERE that guy! you should start your own channel, I’d check it out!

[@theknifeconnection9571]

You CAn clearly see this tool is mostly junk. I work construction and carry a multi tool every day. This dude obviously has some decent knowledge about this shit. And I garuntee he Can use these. Amulti tool being what it is. Is never the best choice. You will almost always have issues. They arnt built to be perfect for every job. They're built to keep you from having to leave the job and grab another tool. I'd like to see you use one. Most people that talk about it. Yeah you get where I'm going here

[@VanguardSys]

tool looks 2 wide to fit nicely in hands. The more parts the more likely to lose and less likely to use tool - don think this is a winner - the ratchet lock is interesting but not a major selling point

[@anthonycampos7417]

2nd unit and man's STILL does not know how to unlock the wood saw, metal file and awl. YOU LIFT UP ONE OF THE OTHER CLOSED TOOLS TO UNLOCK THE CURRENTLY OPEN TOOL. NOT JUST FOLDING IT AND FORCING IT TO UNLOCK

[@cleantools4470]

I feel like this is still a bad and unfair review since you clearly don’t know the blade steel or how to unlock and close the saws/file. If you were good at using tools you might have a different opinion.

[@teedee3879]

That's what I was thinking!

[@jeeves744]

He sure tries to talk and act like he is very knowledgeable when in reality he os not.

[@chuckbourgeois3744]

Well lets see your fabulous review when you get yours. The review seems fair your nitpicking him not the crappy tool in his hand

[@50scap3]

@@chuckbourgeois3744 There’s no more room at the nit picking in because this reviewer reserved all the rooms AND the banquet hall. Those pasty little arms and grubby, heinous nails aren’t helping either.

[@inthemountainswithmeachum3256]

its the same pos as the first one

[@theknifeconnection9571]

The over lap on the edge of wtf ever you were talking about I believe you're talking about a burr on the blade edge

[@Traderjoe]

I’ve been waiting for mine too, but I unfortunately have the strong feeling that I will have the same experience. But, I hope that doesn’t dissuade a maker from trying to make an improvement over current designs and try to make really cool and unique new inventions. Criticisms are a good thing, if it helps the development of a product. I remember getting the first ever Leatherman and trying it out on the first screw I came upon and the tip of the screwdriver twisted like a corkscrew on me.

[@jamessellards7157]

Over all is it really worth the money????

[@MrSurvivalexpert]

Mine was a huge piece of 💩 also

[@909cobra]

im still waiting for mine.......

[@caiobrito1083]

Is there a bottle opener or anything of the sort?

[@JR-lg7fd]

20 bucks says every multi tool this guy has ever owned sits in a drawer collecting dust while he plays CoD and drinks Amp energy and yells at his mom.

[@SuperJcclark]

So you’re blasting him because he didn’t like the multitool ? Pretty weird reaction bruh..

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@SuperJcclark YUP

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@SuperJcclark you made a second account just to seem like it wasn't you commenting on your own video.. I bet. haha. can't fool me sucka.

[@wim0104]

If you'd rather have a tiny channel lock (can be had dirt cheap!), or even worse a crescent wrench, why would you buy the Toler Union?? How does it compare to other universal/parrot wrenches, like the Knipex Raptor, or a Crescent Flip&Grip. How do the saws compare to other manual stab saws: Milwaukee has one that takes standard recip blades, and I wish a future Union module would have a mounting point for those blades...

[@ethanmanning938]

Channel locks are the worst things to use on bolts. Any time I get nicked from a metal shaving when removing a bolt, because some dickhead chewed up the head with their channies, I go berserk. My god... take the extra 0 seconds to get the right fucking tool for the job or get out of the field

[@jayn8392]

So how does that wrench work? That is the section I am primarily interested in. I need a small highly adjustable wrench to throw in a chest rig, but it needs to work

[@originalzo3873]

Is it shit? Or not?

[@DylanDestr0y87]

Still waiting on mine!! I really hope its worth the wait!

[@namelesske]

😅

[@anthonywitman9934]

"If you know anything about knives" but doesnt even know it isnt stainless lmao

[@JR-lg7fd]

bet his gamertag is DILF_hunter6969

[@dragonstuff1983]

My replacement needs replacement. Blade goes past its lock and gets stuck....

[@tolertools4081]

Hi, Adam. I was glad you reached out to [e-mail] and discussed your need for a replacement. We'll be getting that to you asap as discussed. Thanks.

[@unregistered_user]

The lessening of an immeasurable figure (disappointment) negates the initial intention because your disappointment is indeed measurable having now established that the immeasurable figure (disappointment) can be lessened. Or perhaps you were being facetious and dramatic.

[@josuearevalo2805]

What would be the suggestions instead??

[@sgsheff]

The Leatherman crunch is the best multi tool in my mind. The Leatherman wave is one of the best all around plier multi tools. The surge is a larger higher end version of the wave

[@fc436]

Leatherman are good tools but if you want the best quality craftsmanship, go to a European products like. Victorinox swisstool. At least the quality is better than American tools. Anyway leatherman wave surge etc are very good. Shame they not match the quality of Switzerland products. (tolerance, finish, details etc...). In these way the best is victorinox.

[@JR-lg7fd]

sitting at his grandma's crafting table made of boards from the neighbor's fence.

[@calebwatson4505]

This tool is a scam. Waited 2 years, when I complained about being run around I got informed the owner "no longer works for me" and had my order revoked. He's a modern day snake oil salesman and has no actual product to send in my opinion.

[@AquaTech225]

Sounds like umay be the scam. The product is right here in the video. And if u backed it in indigogo or something like that. Obviously it’s there an needing backers because it’s in the works an anything being produced will take time sometimes lots of time to get a finalized product than get it shipped. Also nobody that’s backing it is guaranteed a tool. Clearly states that before paying. Most of the time items are sent to the backers sooner because it’s not available to the public an thats where funding came from the backers. But it’s not a sure thing if the company flops ect. You knew it takes time. Others are in the same boat and just know when an if the company makes it there gonna get it. An don’t really think much about it. Because there’s no point to stress it. You’ll get it when ya get it. An we all know that. Or an were chancing getting anything at all. So u contacted them to complain just to complain. Like your going to get yours ahead of someone that waited longer than you. Really

[@AquaTech225]

That being said anyone that didn’t back it just to back it for a return or no return it wouldn’t change there life either way an wouldn’t waste time to complain over something so petty. Pretty much says your strapped for money an your feelings are hurt you haven’t seen a return on something that was never guaranteed. People like you should stay off indigogo an any other backing campaigns

[@calebwatson4505]

Yeah I was in the upper 600s, and yeah its pretty obvious your comment is just an attempt to make yourself feel smart. Wierd how you went from not liking it to liking it so fast but literally thousands of folks haven't gotten tools. My guess is you got compensation in some way to make these comments.

[@sextuspompeius1266]

@@AquaTech225 you were doing so many mental gymnastics to justify the existence of this piece of shit "multitool"

[@SkyBrigidRain]

Well, this turned me off of the Toler tool! I was hoping the saws could cut steel and iron. I guess I'll look for that Leatherman Surge!!!!