My Husband Cheated With My Sister And He Emailed Me 6 Years Later r/Relationships

[@slytherinlibrarian3501]

The _audacity_ of Abby to say that she's going to be the Cool Auntie to the nibbling whose family she played a part in destroying...

[@aluralovell6829]

I mean she still has the audacity, but technically she didn't destroy their family thankfully and the nibbling has a wonderful family to look forward to hopefully, free of her.

[@ArthropodJay]

She was groomed

[@Wishingwell51wondertard]

@@ArthropodJay Groomed or not she had a brain and knew how to say no just as easily as she said yes. We need to stop acting like these teenagers are mentally impaired and don’t know right from wrong when they clearly do. There comes a point where everyone has to take responsibility for their actions and some of these teens from 15 years old and older are as manipulative as adults.

[@pippo17173]

@Wishingwell51 indeed. The only thing she did right was making the creep live in a hell ge didn't want but that is not saying much because her being an aunt will only make the baby grow up like her ans that is a nope.

[@Schwiegermutter]

​@@ArthropodJay she was 19.

[@bridgetsmith6733]

Story 1: "I emailed my ex back that I was pregnant" "A few hours later my mother and sister knew I was pregnant" "I have no idea how they knew I was pregnant."

[@pitviper2]

Lol

[@thatonecooktone]

I can see now how easily groomed she was by the older guy. She was never bright to begin with 😅🤦‍♀️

[@barbarapearson5896]

I was literally screaming 'Your ex told your mother and your sister, idiot.'

[@SoloAudrey]

Don’t forget that she also has pregnancy brain and was just so stressed/scared of her mom and sis that she didn’t even have time think that her ex could have told them.

[@demanded17]

Could be shock response resulting in a slow thinking process but I feel like it's really just a general lack of common sense and the ability to think critically on OP's part 🤔

[@madambutterfly1997]

A serial cheater could never be the “cool aunt”. Loyalty is a core trait of the cool aunt/uncle.

[@Broeckchen]

I would cut her some slack. He was around her as an adult since she was 10 and jumped right on that once she was legal. He definitely groomed her. I am willing to bet that she's dealing with some trauma around that that she doesn't even recognize. A lot of people who have been groomed develop this idea that their only worth lies in being sexually available (because that's what groomers raise them to provide). Not saying OP needs to forgive and let her in, because no - OP deserves to tend to their own trauma and to get a fresh start. But everything within me recoils from judging Abby for any of her sexual history, because I just... I stone cold do not believe that this comes from just a malicious attitude. Girl has her own shit she needs to start dealing with.

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

@@Broeckchen Ya it seems like she was groomed. She doesn’t have to forgive her but the husband isn’t just a cheating ass

[@Broeckchen]

@@thecursed01 She was a teenager and the guy was someone who had access to her to manipulate her almost 24/7. I'm not going to 100% excuse it but she's WAY less culpable for this than people think. My second hint to that is her current infidelity, which honestly sounds a ton like typical trauma responses of grooming victims.

[@xxprettyrwbyxx3857]

@@Broeckchen yeah but in that scenario there are so many things you do and fucking your sister's husband and NEVER apologizing isn't one of them

[@NC4E]

@@Broeckchenbut she IS culpable even if it’s less as you say. People are allowed to point that out.

[@kaykay8855]

Story 1: I heard this story before, ex husband groomed op’s sister and the way he called op his ‘baby doll’ was just beyond creepy.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Dumb ass wants to see if he can have both sisters 👯‍♀️ again. Awful toxic ex hate when there es move on and don’t want them back.

[@animebabe44]

Honestly anytime a guy calls his SO baby doll, babycakes, babygirl ect. It makes me want to projectile vomit

[@kaykay8855]

@@animebabe44 thank you! I’m not the only one ☝️

[@warsolender1077]

Such a gross thing like being called daddy/mommy seriously gives me 365 days vibes just so creepy 😐

[@kaykay8855]

@@warsolender1077 do you think he made op’s sister call him ‘daddy’

[@Akichan07]

"I don't know how my sister and mom knew" SIS! YOU LITERALLY TOLD YOUR SISTER'S HUSBAND!!

[@ajzephyros7454]

probably pregnancy brain

[@rubymeaddle]

​@@ajzephyros7454 she probably figured he wouldn't tell her because they're getting divorced

[@ditzyhere3138]

Yeah, but that's also kinna weird. Wonder what story he told the sister/mom. Like after 6 years he was suddenly in contact with his ex-wife? Bet he spun it that OP got in touch with him and not the other way around.

[@technicaldifficulties368]

@@ditzyhere3138 Or he heard it from a high school friend

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

​@@rubymeaddle A lot of people say they're going through a divorce, yet stay with their partner for months or years for a variety of reasons until they finally seperate. Or they're just lying, hoping they can find a sidepiece/exitplan.

[@glass9137]

S2: that girl might just be one of those ‘friends’ that secretly hates you and wants to sabotage you every chance they get. Theres never any solid reason they hate you, it just boils down to jealousy and insecurity. You have something they dont so they insert themselves into your life and try to take everything away from you. Friends, family, identity, relationships, items, financial opportunities, etc. If you notice it, best thing to do is immediately cut them off.

[@sazzaxeight3124]

Who wants to bet she was jealous of ops natural hair lol hate people like this, god only knows what else she's done to people she's jealous of. At least if she gets some consequences now it may stop her from getting worse with time.

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

Oh, I wouldn't ignore it. I'd wait to pop in on friend when she was in the shower and be like, "For real, I just feel like I didn't use it right. My hair is exactly the same. Can you show me how you apply it so I can get the best results?"

[@cb9825]

Dr. Ramani says it's typical for narcissists. Basically they envy other people's authenticity because they themselves are empty inside. This is why narcissists hate and try to destroy even the people who have less success than them.

[@emperorwai]

Frienemies are stupid. They start as your friend and then flip the script when you do/become someone worthy of their insane anger. Had this happen to me, I became 'competition' as she was big ol' whore face. Which was dumb since I'm ace (I didn't know it then but yeah) but still cute as hell and menfolk liked me(though I question if it was more than her since she actually put out). She really wanted to ruin me in the end, spreading lies to friends I INTRODUCED TO HER but none of them believed it, well most didn't, the ones that mattered. Spiteful, petty shit like this is just a sign of insecurities that go beyond reddit pay rate. Chick needs help. And a nice time out in a jail cell to cool her dumbass down. I do want to clarify, I'm absolutely slut shaming my ex friend, I'll freely admit that. Not saying hoe-ing is inherently bad and wrong. Hoe to y'all delight, just be safe and ethical. She was the type to weaponize tang for her own gain and used that gain to ruin(financially, emotionally and socially)men she ensnared and would get bored of. Hard to believe, I know, but she was just that broken of a person. I'd feel pity if I didn't still kinda want to see her house burn down along with every expense thing she conned people to get her with it.

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 its hilarious how much cheaters hate getting cheated on.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

Then they think everyone does it, so it’s no big deal to do it again.

[@tokonunya8301]

I'll never understand how they can be surprised that someone who cheated WITH them would cheat ON them. Like, bruh, you knew exactly who she was. That is, in fact, how you got together. Are you braindamaged?

[@user-lr7dk7mt2w]

Cheaters think it's ok for them to do it but wrong if their partner does it I can guarantee the cheater never once thought he would ever get cheated on because it's always about me with a cheater

[@ahstiasummers5583]

Cheaters want to have their cake and eat it too. The safety and security of a long-term relationship.... but also the thrill of a new relationship every few weeks/months (however long the initial butterflies last)

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Doesn't feel good to be on the other hand of cheating does it? But it obviously shows just selfish and delusional these people are.

[@owl7072]

Story 1: "She doesn't care about me like you did" That's tragic ❤️✨️🧚🏻‍♀️🪷

[@mbyerly9680]

The world's smallest violin is playing. Snicker.

[@S730SD]

"She doesn't care about me like you did" So cry me a river & jump in.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Yea, poor him...

[@vanzy01]

😭😂👍🏿

[@kili_liniani_3768]

The way I kept fake pouting and going all “owww poor him” in a sarcastic tone every single time he mentioned something going wrong for him

[@Russman67]

Dan is upset when Abby (who was barely legal when they started their affair) doesn't treat him the same and he contacted OP thinking she'd take him back. The response (after laughing enough to pass out) would be to tell him that "It sucks to be him" followed by more laughter. And as far as Abby is concerned, tell her "It's hard to be the cool aunt when you're dead to me ".

[@RudesMom]

And add the mother to the list of the dead. She supported the tramp daughter. Nope, no grandkids for her unless the Abby has some.

[@pamelajohnson6425]

Yep, because you can't get more chill than dead 😂

[@TriXJester]

Story 1: My petty ass would just reply with a singular "😂" Last Story: The girl who sent that stuff was definitely stupid, you literally cannot cover the smell of Nair with anything and it is absolutely pungent. This can become very serious very quickly so its good OP's mom went to the cops.

[@mandyj2809]

That’s literally exactly what I thought I would send the ex in story one😂

[@CircusoftheMoon]

Respond with “😂” and then send a screenshot to Abby.

[@DoritoBot9000]

Gold

[@Germania72]

Story 2: Say what? OP's friend is a sociopath. Just thinking of it sent chills down my spine. Who the f##k does that?

[@michal31131]

A sociopath, probably

[@mkuti-childress3625]

And she hypothetically let OPs mom try it, knowing she had been a cop! Definitely a sociopath!

[@AIBot929]

S2: Jealousy has no reason. She wanted you bald because she is jealous of your hair

[@Andrea.S.Alvey12]

Does anyone, beside me, get the feeling that Dan may have used Op as a place-holder for her younger sister? The whole story was making my skin crawl! I'm glad Op found a good man to spend her life with and I hope the pregnancy runs smoothly with a safe delivery and happy outcome. :)

[@WobblesandBean]

He was 25 when he began going after her at 18. That's gross. Then the moment OP is an actual adult at 23, he goes after the 18 year old sister. He's a predator.

[@smapa1185]

Yes.

[@dimsufferer9951]

Dan’s a creep. He’s known the younger sister since she was 10

[@mpazinambao2938]

I know it's wrong, but I'm glad she had a miscarriage. She would have been tied to this man forever.

[@clarabp2613]

​​@@mpazinambao2938baby took one for the team. The sould decided to wait a little more to be born. Edit so I can add something more so the comment doesn't sound that dark.

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Story 1 - Wow! She cheated on him with his own cousin? That's almost as bad as having your spouse cheat on you with your sibling - oh, wait! Story 1 - Update - I'm guessing the Ex told OP's mother and/or sister about her pregnancy as soon as she told him.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Yea. Ofc ex told the mother and sister. I don't get how OP could be wondering how they found out 🤦 They literally emailed hours after she sent that text to ex.

[@zfchaudhry1302]

@@Nathan_Bookwurm Exactly 💯

[@iasomnium919]

Story 1: I've heard this story before, and OP replying to the ex is an example of "closure is not what you need right now, the block button is". She freaked out wondering how they found out she was pregnant, when she told him in that email that she was pregnant. As much as you want closure, sometimes it's really better off not to seek it from your offender, as it can give them an opportunity to gaslight you and abuse you even more, among other things.

[@CaulkMongler]

Exactly this. Closure and moving on is *never* given by others.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Yea... Like why is it important for the ex to know that you're pregnant. Saying you already married someone else okay, if you really want to make the point that you won't return to him. But even that was too much information already. Basically, answering a mail like that is only to help the abuser to move on (or get back into your life), not for your own closure.

[@akl2k7]

Sometimes, it's enough closure to know that your cheating ex is in a bad place because of their actions. The cheating ex doesn't deserve closure. OP shouldn't have replied to him except maybe to never contact her again and that she's having her best life without him without any specifics.

[@gem9535]

This.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

​@@akl2k7 I agree with you. Maybe replying wasn't the answer, but sometimes it's ok to get closure in the sense that you made the right decision by walking away.

[@bgcorporation]

"I don't know how they knew about my pregnancy." Uh, you told your ex. Ex told them lol.

[@sierrajohnson717]

They probably all live together. Cheating sis doesn’t sound like the “work/pay rent” type

[@Merryfrances]

Groomer x2 😬 Edit: OMG he even used to call her “baby doll” 🤢 🤮

[@swearimnotarobot3746]

Let’s look at their ages and make a judgement purely on that. She is 33 now. Dan is 40 now. The sister (Abby) is 25 now. The affair happened 6 years ago. OP and Dan started dating when she was 18. So: OP was 18, Dan was 25 when they started dating. Abby was 10! He had an affair with Abby when she was 19 and he was 34! (Sorry if I got some of the ages wrong) @3:00 the mother supported Dan and the sister’s affair! @8:40 “I’ll wait for you Baby doll” 🤮 Story 2: Thank God OP checked what is was first. 😅 That friend definitely knows what she was doing. It’s either a “prank”, jealousy, malice, etc.

[@owl7072]

I think Op said she was 19, which isn't any better

[@swearimnotarobot3746]

@@owl7072 I edited my comment because the ages are a bit all over the place.

[@stephkais5613]

Knowing that timeline made me want to puke

[@swearimnotarobot3746]

@@stephkais5613 yup. Same with me

[@owl7072]

​@SwearI’mNotACoconut this story is a Rollercoaster, I don't blame you for trying to get a clear timeline

[@starbird3939]

Story 1 Knowing this dude, he would try to get with OP’s child next. Once a cheater, always a cheater-and once a groomer, always a groomer

[@ineedhoez]

😂😂😂😂

[@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer]

If I were op in story 2 I would have pretended to use the conditioner and act like everything was normal. That probably would have extremely confused her and it would be interesting to see how she'd react after that.

[@darkmask5933]

I dunno, what OP actually did sounds way more funny, cause you know the backstabber was shitting themselves when OP said her mom wanted to call the police.

[@ButyoucancallmeKat]

Really? I would have done the exact opposite and said I used it and I have burns all over and my hair fell out to see how she reacts once she “gets her way.” Maybe she would then give away her motive and thennnn it’s time for police. This was really messed up and I do think that she at least needs some kind of consequences because there is no way she thought that this wouldn’t affect her “friend”

[@WhitneyDahlin]

​@@darkmask5933 I would have invited her over to my house to help me get ready for the date. And when she gets there insist she do a skin care spa day with me. And then insist she use the conditioner first. 🤣 Keep pressuring her into either putting it on and using it and damaging her own hair or force her to refuse and admit she tampered with it. Then I'll have to ask why and then I'll be able to confront her about why she did it. And she won't be able to hide or refuse and block me.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

​@Sergio Bicerra But then she'd probably keep her mouth shut, being scared her motives could be used as evidence in a court room. Or she could take her life in panic, thinking she'd spend the rest of her life in prison.

[@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer]

@@ButyoucancallmeKat I guess I'm someone who gets more satisfaction out of seeing her fester with confusion and anger. Telling her she hurt you might give her a certain level of joy, even if it meant she would be in trouble. Her goal was to hurt op after all, or she wouldn't have done it. And she had to guess that she'd probably get in trouble because nobody is going to take being forcibly balded lying down. So in the end, she'd have gotten what she wanted anyways. She wanted op to be balded. So telling her it worked will only make her happy. Especially since she was pressuring op all the way up until she used it and didn't say anything about the mother using it, that makes me think she wouldn't have any regrets even if she got in trouble.

[@CatLoverX74]

Story 2 I’m so glad she knew the smell was off and tested it on her arm instead! It’s scary to think a casual friend could do something like that. I’m glad they went to the police because that’s not something to just brush off. She could’ve been seriously injured or worse.

[@Iflie]

That "friend" was jealous of her hair. And I just hate it that now anytime people show long beautiful hair people are telling them to donate it for kids with cancer. When most of that hair will end up sold. Wigs can be made from synthetics, some are really good and they are way cheaper for any kids or adults with cancer or alopeacia. Don't give up your own hair kids!

[@starbird3939]

Yup. Locks of Love and some of the those other hair charities will either throw out the good hair… or make it wigs to be sold to people at a high price.

[@dionysus_adores]

I had someone in our friend group that admitted she enjoyed watching our other friends suffer for her to boost their self esteem just to brake them down again. She never did something like this but wouldn't put it pass her.

[@Iflie]

@@starbird3939 Yeah they have so much hair piled up it goes moldy and they sell the good stuff for profit and then sell the wigs to the kids with cancer for money too. So instead of helping a kid some lady will have paid in a salon for your pristine hair. Making a wig itself takes so much effort any wig is expensive. Might as well go cheap and easy and get a synthetic, my mom's came from asia and it worked great, people thought it was her own hair. And you can get it in any colour.

[@Iflie]

@@dionysus_adores Yeah and some women are especially jealous of "good hair". They are raised to really obsess over it. So it would be something they would enjoy ruining.

[@dionysus_adores]

@@Iflie yep some people are just like that unfortunately

[@scepticalhyenas5750]

I love when people cheat and then get all shocked because _"what?? oh I can't believe it! The person I cheated with... is a cheater!"_ like it's some big surprise

[@Wtfamidoing2970]

As if the whole thing wasn’t bad enough, I almost lost it when he called her his “babydoll” 🤢

[@kissedbypalefirex]

story 2: op does need to press charges with the "frenemy". this girl sounds like the type to sabotage people & tamper with food, she sounds like that dude feeding his gf slugs 🤢🤮

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Story 2: That is not a joke, nor funny. Someone needs to find that so-called friend, and butcher her hair. I almost hope she goes to a stylist who knows about this story, pieces it together and offers some well-deserved retribution. Imagine her throwing a fit and then everyone learns exactly why. If only.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

Yeah, unfortunately the guilty usually don’t explain why they did something outside of cop shows! Too bad.

[@jakemarie828]

Regardless of the "why" there's no reason to chemically burn someone. This is like the mean girls version of throwing acid in someone's face. Hope she goes to jail

[@kimhyejin3005]

has it been updated?

[@owl7072]

Story 2: If she tries saying it was a joke, I'm fighting her on Op's behalf. I've used Nair before man, mainly for if I miss any small patches on my leg or something, but regardless I'm so careful with that stuff that I literally set a timer for it cause they aren't joking when they say it can give you chemical burns. I've never had one, but I'm not risking it. Nope, not even a little. Edit: Fighting her anyway

[@tabortoothtiger7580]

I couldn't even stand the smell and was freaking out that I was getting it in places that I didn't want to get it. That was part of my OCD and anxiety disorder of course, but I was paranoid as fuck after using it once. Didn't work for me because I refused to keep it on for very long because of my paranoia. I personally just think chemicals like that are best left to professionals. lol

[@Nortarachanges]

@@tabortoothtiger7580, yeah I’m similar. I have coarse hair, sensitive skin, and a sensitive nose. Could only stand a couple minutes, not long enough to remove the hair. Still left my skin red and sore after. Nair is not for me That smell would knock anyone out, though. I don’t know who that “friend” thought she was fooling

[@emmahancock8911]

My moms coworkers husband used it on his under bits and left it on WAY too long, and he lost at least 1 layer of skin so Nair is no joke

[@AndyyWithAY]

40 yr old and cheating with a 19 yr old 🤮🤮🤮 At 19 you're still a baby. I think back to myself at my age and I THOUGHT I was grown, but I've learned so much over the years. When you're 30 plus, if you want a 20 yr age gap, do you boo, but at 19, the difference in life experience is just too much and it's predatory that he went after her.

[@khaleesireyna731]

19 is old enough to know not to f**k your sibling's spouse, just sayin'. Maybe the creep groomed her, but she doesn't get to act like everything is fine and she can just be in her sister's life again and play "cool aunt". She's not a victim, she's a selfish, spoiled brat and we really need to stop making excuses for adults. 19 is old enough to know that actions have consequences.

[@AndyyWithAY]

The 19 yr old is "dumb" and likes to go out with her friends 🙄😂😂 Maybe don't marry someone barely legal and half your age. Cheating is wrong, but I'm not even going in on the sister because he deserves that disrespect. He cheated with her now is shocked Pikachu she's cheating ON him

[@tallyp.7643]

Yeah, he's nuts if he thinks she's willing to be a loving wife by his side. He took his time with OP and developed a relationship. He cheated with her, taking the fast track. Yeah, he's pathetic-squared.

[@kb5598]

"Pikachu" 😄❤

[@astronautviolet153]

Story :1 Op's Ex Husband is a walking red flag definitely great idea to cut contact with sister and mother. Live your best life with your new family and baby.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I know it's better for OP to just hit the block button on all of them, but I would've emailed the sister back with the email the ex sent her, as well as a note about how "bold of you to think I'd let you be anywhere near my family... given your history, you'd probably try to f**k my husband (again) and try to play mommy with my baby for good measure. Go back to hitting the crackpipe you deluded twit." And I would've told the mom to f**k off and that she isn't getting a grandchild because she doesn't have OP as a daughter. She's been gone since you decided to side with the affair partner sibling. And grooming or not, the sister IS NOT a victim in this. She's selfish and self-centered and clearly delusional if she thinks she gets to be the cool aunt.

[@hotjanuary]

Story 1: she shouldn’t have replied to the email. She should have deleted it and forgotten about it. He’s looking for sympathy and attention. Replying is giving attention, doesn’t matter that it’s not positive. He got a thrill that she still cared enough to bother replying. Remember: responding to toxic people will never give you closure. The best medicine is to ignore them. If you absolutely must send a reply to tell someone to never contact you, keep it brief and impersonal. “Don’t contact me.” Period. Don’t include anything about how they impacted you or ruined your life. They don’t care. You won’t get closure from telling them what an awful person they are.

[@slytherinlibrarian3501]

I'm about to go do my own curly wash day and that second story horrifies me. ETA: OP mentioned that the frenemy began her natural hair journey around a year ago. It sounds like her progress isn't as far as she's hoped, she's jealous of OP, and she felt the need to take her down a notch. What a monster.

[@jennywhite2462]

Nair chemically burned my legs so bad I ended up in the ER. I don't want to even imagine that on someone's scalp. The hair loss would be devastating enough but I think it could potentially kill someone. What if it got into your ears and eyes. I hope the girl who put the Nair in the conditioner gets some help she really needs it to do something like that.

[@TheNicolevertone]

Last story: It doesn't matter if OP did something or not. Mixing Nair in someone's conditioner is both stupid and dangerous. You can seriously injure someone doing that. I hope she presses charges for attempted assault if it is possible.

[@ray30k]

Story 2: My money is on "ex-friend is a garden-variety bully who got spooked that her 'teasing' might have consequences *for her*."

[@LAOCHPadre]

Story 1 is the greatest example of literally fucking around and finding out I've ever heard.

[@BritInvLvr]

Story 2: with friends like that, who needs enemies.

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Story 1: I usually don't bother with the actually word "karma", but if it was ever fitting, it's fitting here.

[@lizfritz6546]

Bro really saw a girl celebrating her 18th when he was 25 and thought either: it wasnt wrong or he knew he could groom and manipulate her. Then he did it again with OP’s sister. And then he of course got upset a young woman is acting like a young woman and he cannot manipulate her like he hoped.

[@jemmavaughan7027]

Just found the update for story 2. Apparently, the girl who put nair in the conditioner went to her parents' place to hide, so when the police turned up, her parents heard about it and were pissed. The cops apparently said that because it was only attempted assult that she wasnt getting arrested, but then she hit one of the cops and was arrested anyway 😂 according to the update OP doesn't know what led up to hitting the cop, but they said that everyone that they've spoken to about this friend has no clue what's been going on with her either.

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

That man groomed both op and her little sister when the newer model came out. He's disgusting. I'm glad he's suffering, he does not deserve a spouse that loves and cares for him. He deserves to be on this Earth alone.

[@pokomelon2107]

😊😅

[@Mia-dt3gl]

The “friend” in Story 2 sounds dangerous.

[@timothynelissen948]

It's obvious in the first story that the ex told the sister and mother about OPs pregnancy. What a slime ball, and I bet he didn't mention the email he sent where he opined for OP and begged her to rescue him. I would send that entire email thread to the sister and walk away. The smoke would be seen for miles

[@biancahellberg587]

OP doesn't know how sis & mom found out about her pregnancy? Well, OP, you told your ex who's married to your sister. Geez, I wonder how she might've found out... Everything about this story is absolutely gross though. The obvious grooming, the husband's cheating & the *audacity* expecting OP to wait for him/take him back, Abby's lack of morals, the mother's treatment of Abby as her golden child (seriously, who tells their daughter that she needs to get over her husband cheating, let alone with the younger sister?!) Yikes.

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 1: Get a new email address, and block the toxic family.

[@BoxOKittens]

He knew the little sister since she was a child. Makes me wonder if some kind of grooming was taking place that no one knew about...I hope OP stays FAR away from him.

[@Eldritchinator]

Story 1: Irreconcilable. That's too deep a wound to ever get back in contact with that dude.

[@BDogGrizzly]

Story 2: Holy shit! Do you realize the kind of damage that “Nair-Like” product could have done to OP’s hair? She could have *_PERMANENT HAIR LOSS!!!_* It even says *_NOT TO_* use on your head or facial hair because of how dangerous it can be! Call the cops on that psychopath!

[@scottluther6699]

For the hair trick, you should call her screaming that your hair all fell out and see if that triggers her to tell you why.

[@stutikhanna987]

I remember this story and I'm so happy this man is getting cheated with OP sister so good for him. This man is not just a walking with red flags he is red flag actually. He only approach young girls who are you and immature. He thinks that by having such girls with him he can mold them as per his wishes actually. If she wasn't cheating on him then he would do that to her actually.

[@terramarini6880]

I'm wondering if he encouraged her to get her masters and career off the ground because he knew there was an expiry date on his attraction to her and she would need to be able to support herself. What a sphincter muscle.

[@paperkay]

Story 1: OP also needs some therapy, because abuse and trauma like that can't be buried by simply ignoring it and if those people ever advance on her out of malice, she'll suffer. She needs to deal with those memories until she's immune.

[@fhuber7507]

1.. Just from the title of this video: OP emails back: "Isn't that nice! Sucks to be you. My life is great. Get back in your sewer."

[@khaleesireyna731]

I would've just snarked back at his follow-up email with petty. Just be like "oh be still my heart, you'll 'wait for me'? Well, when I get tired of my loving and supportive husband and my wonderful child, I know JUST WHO TO CALL!!! 🙄🙄🙄" emojis are to be included. The ex really out here thinking OP was just sitting around waiting for him to get bored with the sister. The absolute audacity of this idiot.

[@blix_xo]

S2: If she could sabotage your hair products, imagine what else she could do, especially if she knew you were deathly allergic to something, and it just so happened to fall into things. Whether prank or serious, the trust is gone. Keep them distant. I wouldn't accept anything, and I mean ANYTHING from them. And boom on the update. The block alone says it all. She was likely a bitter, jealous person. If others got blocked, yea, cruel intent. What trash.

[@Tyler171819]

Story 1: I would have emailed him back “Considering I’m reading this while sitting beside my husband and 5 months pregnant with our first child…I think I’ll have to pass. Good-luck exbrother-in-law!””

[@Draggonny]

Nah. That still sounds too sympathetic. More like "Hard pass. I've moved on with someone waaaaaay better and I'm much happier without you. Jog on."

[@izzisart]

I'd have just emailed back "Sucks to be you" with a wedding photo attached 😂

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@Izzi's Art I'm a dramatic b**ch, so I was sitting there thinking that I would've (with hubby's full knowledge and being on board with it) emailed him back like "Yeah, I've missed you so much! Let's meet up!". Plan to meet up and for extra spice, meet up at the hotel that he was screwing the sister at (the irony will he missed on this dunce). When he gets there, he'll find OP, her husband, and her baby bump (I'd make sure to wear a form-fitting shirt so it shows) and then just point and laugh at his dumb a$$ and say "did you REALLY think I'd take your pathetic cheating ass back? Like I was just waiting for you all these years? Because if so, you're an idiot." Then send the sister ex's email with a line saying "had a great time catching up with your husband at that hotel you both absolutely loved... now I know what it's like to sneak around like you did!"

[@dianasmith8248]

Story one: OP dodged a bullet with her groomer ex husband. However, it’s clear that both her mom and sister are delusional trash as well. OP just needs to remain no contact with all of them, and if they try to push themselves back into her life, then take whatever legal action she can to prevent that. But a part of me is wondering if the sister is not cheating on OPs ex. But maybe he wants children and she can’t have them, so they were hoping to get on OPs good side to get a kid that way.

[@thesecretshade]

Story 1: OP saying she doesn't know how her mother and sister knew about her pregnancy made me raise my eye brows. It's very obvious that her ex told them right away. They all wrote her within a few hours.

[@davidtoomey559]

Just FYI: "LIving well is the best revenge" is a quote from the 16th century poet George Herbert. take it, leave it, don't believe it, what you do, you do...

[@mindyschocolate]

I could never betray my sister like that. It just boggles my mind any sibling would sleep with their sibling’s spouse. Also, I’d laugh. Poor baby got cheated on? Not even a birthday cake? POOR BABY! Imagine him thinking she should feel sorry for him because karma gave him a dose of his own medicine. Take a hike, bozo. She’s moved on and found happiness. Loser’s about to be twice divorced. Good luck to wife #3.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Given his track record, creeposauraus rex of an ex would probably try to wait until OPs daughter is 18 to go for wife #3 🤮. Dude deserves to be yeeted into the sun for the "baby doll" nickname alone. And potential grooming or not, it's really not THAT hard to NOT f**k your sibling's spouse... and I'm sure most 19 year olds have enough brainpower to figure that little ditty out.

[@skylordjojo8454]

In a small town where everybody knows everybody, including reputations. Yeah, good luck with that, Bud.

[@kichikitsu]

s1: actual reaction: "oh, 33 and 40? bit of an age gap but they're both well into their adulthood so it shouldn't be an-" "we met on my 18th birthday" "oh ffs." and of COURSE he'd continue the pattern of creep behaviour 20 years later by preying on her younger sister, too. this shit just writes itself huh

[@dawnwagoner8307]

I don’t know how to get my head around this! This ex husband is no doubt a predator, going after a 19 year old in a broken family.he went after her. Also was with op at a young age is absolutely creepy. Congratulations on your baby and husband

[@sandrag3854]

Story 1: OP says she and her family lived in a small town. Her ex and her sister rented a local hotel room for a week and didn't think they'd get caught?? Absolutely absurd. The ex says the sister "very dumb". She ain't the only one! They're actually a good match. Guess he'll have to find his own cake and eat it too. *cheeky grin* lol

[@carlrood4457]

She told her ex in an email the she was pregnant. He clear told mom and sister. That's how they found out she was pregnant. Seems obvious

[@FFGirl76]

Story 1: Gee, OP. How ever could your mother and sister have found out? Could it be... could it possibly be because you just HAD to brag to your ex, who is still married to your sister? What an idiotic thing to do. I hope she learned from this mistake. Look at all the drama she dragged in just because she just had to brag and put her ex in his place.

[@01wonderful]

Story 2 is definitely jealousy. I'm not sure what's wrong with so many women and hating on other women that choose to grow there hair like crazy. I had very long hair too, way past my butt and my parents wouldn't shut up how ugly my hair was, how long and annoying it was to look at, how tired they are to buy lots of shampoos... I started wearing it in a ponytail at all times, braid it as well and washed my hair after every 10-11 days....then cut it to shoulder length because....they just got to me. Now I don't give a rat's behind what anyone says and if anyone makes a stupid comment I just ignore them.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I wouldn't have thought about getting the police involved in story 2 but mom is absolutely right, that was the right thing to do. WTF Reddit assuming OP did something to slight her. Crazy heifers are crazy. No motive is necessary

[@RequiemPoete]

Story 1: " he says he's miserable with my sister..." Me cackling in Palpatine: "Goooood, gooooooooood"

[@eowyn8340]

Story 2: it sounds like pure jealousy. It’s amazing what girls will do to another girl’s hair. I had a mutual “friend” in high school that kept demanding I cut my hair off to my shoulders. I had nearly waist length thick, strawberry blonde hair. I swear I thought she might take a pair a scissors to me while I was sleeping , she was so determined.

[@simplyk6965]

A scary thing I’ve realised as I have grown older; some people don’t need a reason to be cruel, the feeling of envy is enough for them to act in evil, unhinged ways.

[@Baptisteog18]

Always makes me smile whenever I see or hear a cheater get brutal dose of karma. Like one of my parents did when they cheated.

[@Weirdo365yea]

There was an update on the Nair story. The girl got arrested for a hitting an officer and resisting arrest even though OP wasn't pressing any charges

[@susanvanophem4569]

Story 1: Your ex-husband, sister and mother are losers. Change your email address and phone number. Don't respond to any attempts to contact you. At most send back text or emails saying they have reached the wrong individual and then block them. Congratulations on your new life with a husband and wee one on the way. Hugs little momma.

[@marleyfrost215]

That last story. I would have pretended like my hair was amazing. Do a deep conditioning treatment and be like “OMG girl this stuff is a miracle! My hairs never felt and looked better!” Convince her that shes somehow made this amazing hair product and uses it on herself 😈

[@precious_toebeans]

Apparently I am happy that nair smells like corpses. New fear unlocked of someone doing that to me!

[@pvanpelt1]

I’d call it a rotten egg smell. Very obvious once you’ve smelled it. I tried it once or twice and ended up with worse irritation than the worst razor burn I’d ever had.

[@precious_toebeans]

@@pvanpelt1 i used nair for too long on certain places and the hair took years to grow back, and when it did it was much finer than the rest. If you're willing to take a burn, might be a relatively inexpensive method to have long term hairlessness?

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #1: While I wouldn't be surprised if everything the ex said about Abby is true, I think we all know he was okeydoke-fine with it until she aged out of his creepy Lolita fixation, just as OP did. Oh, well. Sucks to be the ex and Abby. That said, while I'm sure it felt good in the moment to tell him she was pregnant, OP should have known he'd blab it all to her sister and mother. Time to block them all and move on, girl.

[@littlestrawberryfaery]

Story: he for sure groomed Abby and lovebombed op. Dude is a pred The baby doll comment is weird...

[@khaleesireyna731]

Grooming or not, 19 is not a baby and it's certainly old enough to know that f**king your sibling's spouse is frowned upon a bit. Sister isn't some hapless victim, she's a spoiled brat who thinks that her actions don't have consequences and she can just play nice with people she betrayed and it's all good. That's how narcissists act.

[@madambutterfly1997]

There’s a contradiction in her words. She claims her mother didn’t neglect her and did the best for her, but she treated Abby better? Wtf

[@SeoJun-Sara97]

I think it is similar to how my situation was during my teen…parents giving their ‘best’ in my situation was…paying for my college, put food on the table, let me stay with them until 18( the basic of their responsibility) but there was always that favoritism towards other sibling. The difference in showing love, constant comparison, spending more quality time with the favored one. It is hard to explained but I felt lonely and abandoned while growing up even when I have all the basic necessities as a teen 😊

[@BIGEAGLEDUDE]

@@SeoJun-Sara97 what is your relationship like with you now because to me it sounds like they saw you as a burden on their life and their biggest regret in the moment you turn 18 they just threw you out the door. Or at least to some degree pay for your college because the child that they didn't want they basically felt like they were financially responsible for but then they were through with you the moment you turn 18

[@swearimnotarobot3746]

She also said that she is basically NC with her mother and that her mother supported the sister’s affair and didn’t help her when she had a miscarriage. I’m pretty sure by “not neglectful”, she meant that she had her basic necessities met, like food, water, shelter. But love, care, emotional availability, etc. weren’t.

[@debbymccormack6525]

That can be true. You can have your needs met and be loved and still feel like something is missing if another child is treated better than you are. Parents have favorites no matter what they say.

[@madambutterfly1997]

@Debby McCormack so then the question is what measure of Love is suitable that the mother can't be bad-mouthed as being a horrible bitch

[@ceeshnia]

Just starting the video, but based on that title, he can stay gone; yikes. Update: Although I understand her email, it would have been tempting to just send back "Lol; how sad for you that the life you chose is the life you got" To the mom and sister? To mom: "You will be as active in my child's life as you have been in mine for the past 6 years." and to sister: "I will only allow trusted people who care about me around my child; you are neither." I wish the best for OP and her family. I think her mom and sister found out from her ex, but honestly, those three deserve each other.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I'd go even more brutal at the sister and be like "f**k no I'm not letting you anywhere near my kid. Given your track record, you more likely want to f**k my husband and play mommy to my baby. Go back to screwing my sloppy seconds" and I'd include the email the ex sent for some extra salt.

[@romonaelrod7870]

Those hair removal creams can cause really bad chemical burns. I can't use them for that reason. Hair straightening and perms can cause chemical burns too.

[@icantchange.youtubesaysine7338]

Random Fact: Mr Potato Head was the first toy to be televised. (From what I've read)

[@darman210]

Story 2: Her “friend” might have always been jealous of her hair and suddenly there was something that set her off. Who knows? Maybe she and OP we’re out somewhere and the girl noticed OP’s hair looking extra good, or someone made what they thought was an innocent compliment and the girl felt a certain way about it. Some of the language in the story makes me think both girls are black. If that’s true, then the hair-thing is much deeper.

[@trashotaku]

The first story is a perfect example of you reap what you sow

[@SLTheOneAndAwesome19]

Story 1: Okay, I know pregnancy brain is real, but how does OP not know where her mom and sister found out about the pregnancy? She told her ex... who is married to her sister. It's not that large of a leap...

[@khaleesireyna731]

Considering that OP divulged that to him in response to an email where he basically said "I miss you and your sister is dumb, come back and be with me!", it wouldn't be too silly to think he might not share that.

[@jasoncarter4343]

When my step-father was a teenager, he and a good friend of his were in tennis camp together. When his friend was fast asleep, my step-dad poured Nair into his friend’s hair. When his friend woke up from the burning sensation, he got up to wash his hair only to find it falling out in clumps. He then chased my step-dad all around, threatening to beat him to a pulp. He ended up shaving his head. He and my step-dad remained friends the rest of their lives, amazingly.

[@inprocess222]

Ok! I'm never accepting something from ANYONE. EVER.

[@treehouse2902]

1. Pure delusional people. She needs to block them and move on with her life and family. 2. The so called friend is malicious and jealous. This also means that since this horrible malicious attempt failed, she will continue to try other things.

[@Swnsasy]

No, I wouldn't have put that in my hair.. That Nair smells awful! If she put that on her hair, wow!! For someone to do that to another person shows how horrible of a person they are... That is just vile!!

[@LaineyBug2020]

Story 2- 1. Talk to a lawyer. Then, get a bald cap and hire a sfx make up artist to make your head look like chemical burns and post some pics saying you're contacting a lawyer.... ETA, Good for OP!

[@ComaLies225]

Story 2: I’ve used Nair when I was a teenager and while I’ve never gotten chemical burns thankfully, that stuff has a strong chemical smell. They also advise not to apply it around your face or other sensitive areas. I guess your scalp is also included. Seems like ex friend has some STANK COOCHIE ENERGY vibes and has an intense dislike for other women. This story is also a good reminder to buy sealed products. I never thought I’d have to consider my natural hair products on this….

[@runawayfromtoads674]

I've used nair before and part of the reason why I stopped using it was the smell. It's hard af to miss. Glad OP caught it!

[@AndyyWithAY]

Me: I may have found a like minded person I can enjoy talking to and can have a friendship and maybe more. Them: a few days later: message has slightly suspicious content. Me: trying to redirect the conversation. Them: next message continues on that topic and drops several red flags. Me: Aight I'mma head out. Back to the drawing board lol

[@ceeshnia]

I appreciate it when that comes out earlier than later, at least!

[@AndyyWithAY]

@@ceeshnia Oh definitely, not wasting anymore time on something

[@spiderhssstt]

As a hairdresser/barber for over 40 years, People joke about Nair in conditioner a fair amount and this is the first time someone mentioned how the smell gave it away. FINALLY some common sense!👏👏👏👏👏

[@merykhan97]

That "babydoll" gave me chills.

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

Story 1 - OP is a heck of a lot more classy than me. I would have just emailed back “lol😆” and then forwarded his email to everyone he knows. Sister included.

[@Arylwren1]

The quote is "a life well lived is the best revenge"

[@JMac7395]

Story 2: the sociopath sounds like a frienemy. A fake friend who secretly sabotages the other friend out of jealousy, hate or insecurities. Most definitely not the type of person you want in your life. Because in this day & age frienemies quickly resort to assault or murder. Cut them off once you discover who they are. It doesn't matter if you known them for over a decade

[@gem9535]

My father cheated on my mother and seriously expected her to remain marry to him, staying a housewife, while he slept around with his much younger mistress. He seriously wanted his cake and eat it. My maternal grandmother checks up on him from time to time and he's still with the younger woman, looking absolutely wretched. My mother is now an awesome nurse and is able to pay for my college, something she's always wanted to be able to do for me. Our lives are looking up and his life is only getting worse.

[@queaponte4819]

Story 2: I'm fighting on behalf of OP!! I'm nosey so I looked up OP's post. She's very beautiful with very beautiful hair. 10000000% done out of jealousy!

[@47896285pgdfzgnd]

Story 1: I would've forwarded the email to the sister then blocked them all

[@MsTiffinator]

There was another update for story 2.... the girl got a visit from the police and she was non-compliant and hit the cop and got arrested

[@AndyyWithAY]

There'll be no more 🎂 or 🐱 from me. Have a great life. That would be my response to him. Short and sweet