My Husband Went Behind My Back With A Paternity Test On Our Son r/Relationships

[@Nerobyrne]

"This pregnancy planted the seed of doubt which makes me think you cheated even though there is no evidence of it" This has the same energy as "Who was the girl I dreamt you cheated on me with?!"

[@melikeskalico3812]

Those things are absolutely not the same in any shape or form. The husband here is stupid. But the feeling and threat of raising someone elses baby is more real that a stupid dream.

[@chantalalexander]

​@@melikeskalico3812to some extent it still carries similar energy, because even though he had the paternity test done behind her back, he still believed she was cheating based on nothing other than his doubts, and still tried to con her into admitting to it via email. He might as well have just told his wife, "My dream said you cheated on me. Prove me wrong."

[@helixxia9320]

@melikeskalico3812 that feeling is not valid after he got the confirmation he wanted and still believed she cheated with no evidence or reason to think so. then it does become as stupid as being angry at someone over a dream or a shit that didnt happen

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿

[@agathoklesmartinios8414]

Story 2: So, this guy seriously thought making up a story about having an incestuous relationship with his mother was a better idea than just admitting he had been sleeping with an ex. What. the fuck. [EDIT] And then that was a lie too, since the ex he said he had been sleeping with denies this, and he had done fucked up shit with her too! This dude needs to be put in therapy, stat!

[@maddy8328]

I think he needs to be put in jail

[@honeypot8524]

Incest would have been bad enough but he f*cking tacked on his mom r*ping him since he was 13 and that's what started everything, like WTF!!! Who lies about their mom being a pedophile that r*pes them?

[@jamestown8398]

Therapy won’t help people like him. It only helps people who want to be better.

[@ErisstheGoddessofmanhwas]

F**** up situation.

[@Amy_The_unbearded]

They *both* need therapy IMMEDIATELY.

[@mamav8791]

Story 1: the fact that HE kept up the weird act AFTER he got his paternity results back, leads me to beleive he's the one doing dirty in the shadows. Liars think everyone lies. Thieves think everyone steals. Cheaters think everyone cheats.

[@melikeskalico3812]

Ats why paternity tests should be mandatory

[@mamav8791]

@melikeskalico3812 I agree, but it will never happen. The safety net of public assistance would be deluged with new dependants. The government would rather have notbabydaddy on the hook than Uncle Sam.

[@moxee33]

@@mamav8791 interesting! I never thought of that. But if its done at birth they can presumably find the real dad and hold him responsible.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

@@melikeskalico3812 Not just paternity, but maternity, too. Sometimes babies get switched. Sometimes maternal chimerism is a thing, which a maternity test would reveal, and could be relevant to the child's health later on.

[@bjtaylor-j9w]

@@melikeskalico3812 HE was in the wrong, SHE never cheated, and you accuse HER? You are vile.

[@tamsel814]

Time to get a paternity test followed by either counseling or a divorce. Edit: after the update. Just divorce the guy. He secretly did a paternity test, then after he got a positive result he kept being distant to his wife and son plus still accused his wife of cheating

[@mrs.h2725]

I unfortunately can somewhat understand the level of betrayal and extreme distress she felt. I had a miscarriage with an ex, immediately afterwards he told me he couldn’t let me around his other children I’d been helping to raise for a year cuz he needed to protect them from me. Basically accusing me of having miscarried on purpose somehow just to hurt him and I was now a danger to children. Going through the pain and hormone changes at that time was horrendous enough, but adding the baby’s father being an evil abusive gaslighter was enough to send me over the edge into several suicide attempts. There’s so many Reddit reads where a woman is being harassed or abused by the father during or after birth. Pregnancy and birth is a traumatic event to go through, and the hormone changes put you in a very vulnerable mental state. OP will have to carry that trauma the rest of her life, and won’t be able to look back at the birth of her son without reliving the betrayal.

[@dustyrose192]

If my future husband demanded a paterinty test, id tell him to get one and the divorce papers cus its over

[@streamerssaymyname]

@@dustyrose192 definitely

[@Midnight0Mistress]

I just don't understand why he's not grovelling and showering with gifts and apologies since he royally fucked up

[@paulinadeboer3604]

THIS!! Asking about paternitytest is one thing, doing one behind my back is counseling and talk about divorse, knowing you are the father and still acuse me of cheating means divorse tight away..

[@AndyyWithAY]

People need to understand that when you have a biracial child, the child can be any variation of the parents. Kids that are half black and half white can look black, white, or anywhere in the middle. This is such a stupid reason to abandon your wife and newborn.

[@pippo17173]

I swear that certain people are really that stupid not knowing what a kid could be a combination of certain linage. That really should of been taught more.

[@kelseybordeaux9206]

Exactly,one of my Friends growing up was the oldest of 10 Children,her parents were Biracial. She and 2 other siblings were clearly Mixed,the rest of the siblings were either White or Black. She even joked about it saying "It's like a prize in a Cracker Jack Box,you never know what you're going to get!". If he's Dumb enough to not even know the basics of his OWN Children than he shouldn't be a Father period.

[@Iflie]

And after he knew it was his son he still wanted her to confess she cheated...when he was freaking out about her not replying to his texts fast enough before that. He just wanted his feeling confirmed so he used his son as an excuse. She may not want to be a single mom but she is going to be anyway.

[@Iflie]

Also, black people in the U.S like to ignore the fact that they themselves are part european too. So they think any child of theirs would end up without those genetics.

[@streamerssaymyname]

@@Iflie he always had problems trusting her and she was fine letting him be more controlling than he should be but he decided to play his hand too aggressively this time in trying to make her confess, what was his end goal? She confess and he gets to lord over her forever? Cuz it seems he doesn't think she will leave him nor does he want that.

[@MasterBuilderDragon]

Story 1: This is straight up abuse. OP can’t go anywhere with anyone without telling her husband first, can’t hang out with guy friends alone, and he gaslit her into feeling SHE did something wrong while he went behind her back and got a paternity test, left her with two young kids WHILE SHE WAS IN THE DELIVERY ROOM, and accused her of cheating because he doesn’t know how genetics work. And then he has the balls to say, “well turns out you’re totally innocent so I think I can trust you again”? And then deny marriage counseling? OP, put this guy on the curb with the rest of the trash.

[@greenapetranslord4870]

Why would you let your wife hang out with a dude alone? That is prelude for cheating. And no, men and women cannot be friends, someone always wants something more

[@amandacalder6007]

@@greenapetranslord4870 that’s such a BS lie stop living in the dark ages men and women can be friends. I have had mostly male friends and have never been tempted to sleep with them. If being alone with a man or woman is a risk then that’s your own personal problem, no one else’s.

[@MasterBuilderDragon]

@@greenapetranslord4870 What if their friend is gay?

[@colbysmith2199]

@@amandacalder6007if you’re above a 7 they’ve probably thought about sleeping with you.

[@amandacalder6007]

@@colbysmith2199 That’s not a proven fact though, either way what they think doesn’t matter as long as they don’t try making moves or being inappropriate it’s no one’s place to control who someone’s friends are.

[@charlotteemerson5050]

He not only essentially accused her of cheating, but accused her of scheming to pass off another man's child as his. With all that entails, it would change the way I felt forever.

[@casualcausalityy]

You know it happens a lot though right? And there's no criminal charges for a woman committing paternity fraud. A man can spend 20 years and hundreds of thousands on an affair partners kids. It's important to KNOW the kid's yours

[@thedarkestkinghtstar]

@@casualcausalityy Issue I have is that he knew before he sent the email his son was his. Personally, I would be insulted if my bf wanted a paternity test. I just would be regardless of the following. I also understand a man wanting a paternity test. As a women, there is no doubt whatsoever if the infant I literally gave birth to is mine. So, in order to give him that same level of confidence; I would consent to a DNA test. That being said, if our relationship was as healthy as I would hope, he wouldn't question. So if he did, I would probably give the ultimatum of therapy or I'm gone and we'd work out a co-parenting schedule.

[@BusArch42]

@@casualcausalityy the test wasn’t the problem. It was him acting like that for two weeks after he knew the baby was his son. He is a grade A jerk. I would find a way to leave him. If he acts like this when the person is innocent my guess is he is cheating

[@charlotteemerson5050]

@@casualcausalityy I am well aware and women who pull that type of stunt truly disgust me. And I personally feel there should be some sort of punishment for that. To start with the woman should be made to pay financial restitution. And there should be something more. I am not sure about her being locked up only because the baby/child could very well just lost dad and to lose mom as well, even though temporarily, could really mess the young one up.

[@selfaware3940]

@@casualcausalityy If there is evidence that the mother knows that father is not the guy that is signing the birth certificate then that should be a criminal offence.

[@D-M-K-1-2]

Story 2 is just depressing.. The fact that people can just lie about sexual abuse to protect themselves is one of the reason our would sucks as much as it does.

[@wimsylogic65]

Not just to protect themselves so many people just lie about being abused. And then some of them end up believing their own lies. Or twisting situations around and deceiving that they were abused when they weren't. Such as having a one night stand they regretted. But even Some pretty messed up kids also lie about being abused. Had a six-year-old Neighbor Go out of his way over to me , Ask me a question so I'd stop my yard work to look at him. And then he just dropped his pants and started peeing in front Of me. I had a potty training little kid at the time so I'm I'm used to that stuff. I just turned around and told the kid that Going pee is private matters. Not we have to keep private things private. That means you do not pee in front of other people. I told me needs to go back into his house to use the bathroom or to go hide behind a tree to go pee. I told him that you don't show other people your privates. And then went up to his grandmother who had custody, And I told her what happened and what I told him. And then I laughed it off thinking little kids and boys. Then I was taken aback as the grandmother yelled at the little kid saying if he did it again she'd rip his peepy off. I spoke up and I said that's not necessary we just have to reinforce they needs to use the bathroom or to keep this stuff private. It's not a problem we just have to keep reminding him. A few days later. I learned that when the boy went to talk to his case manager. He told the manager that I randomly went up to him to watch him go pee. And that I let my kids run around naked outside all the time. I don't. But I had a three-year-old girl Who was in the thick of potty training and liked to take off her clothes and Run off. Yeah they've seen her In her underwear outside, But I was Also there chasing her to get pack inside and put clothes on. It didn't happen all the time. For every once in a while, She got loose. Most often when I was trying to use the bathroom. Thankfully she's grown out of that. Also thankfully That six-year-old kid also admitted to lying about me. But I hate to think what would have happened if I didn't tell a grandmother what happened. Or if she played along and went with the kids lies. That kid is also known for habitual Compulsive liar. Which really sucks because some things that happen to him are not a lie and people have troubled distinguishing the difference. Those kids were definitely emotionally abused if not physically. There were 3 of those boys 6 to 9. Last year they set themselves on fire, That's how the grandmother got custody for awhile. The poor middle child is on the spectrum and was deaf for a bit so he lacks social communications. 8 years old he was suicidal. His younger brother and older brother are like sociopath psychopath. They've been on medication since really little. The six-year-old supposedly has schizophrenia. The 9 year old, Is just like That old movie Mccolley colkins the good son. I tell you it's horrifying seeing children that Almost like they don't have a soul. Before I Intervened, I witnessed the oldest brother beating on his little brothers, The pure happiness on his face while he was causing that pain was horrifying. Like the kid you look at him and he feels empty except for when hes causing hurt then you see emotions that look real, And it looks like hes euphoric about it. So creepy. One day, He looked at me like he was some kind of animatonic doll, Give me this weird dazed smile, He was like I'm a new happy pills now. My brain still can't fathom that all this stuff happened for real. Oh and weren't just my neighbors they were my landlord's grand kids. The youngest one and the oldest 1 I sense are broken beyond repair but you never know. I feel bad for them but I feel like they've already been infected by evil. My heart mostly goes out to the middle child. The youngest and oldest have enjoyment in causing harm. The middle one All I ever seen from him is just pure suffering. I like him, He was sweet. Yeah he had a lot of emotional outbursts but I think that they were perfectly perfectly reasonable. He just needed someone with patience, And calmness. Poor kid. They're back to being with their mom now. Their grandmother was good for them for a while, But eventually she got broken down, And she became Unstable and abusive Emotionally to the kids. I have nothing good to say about their mother. She's the only person I've ever wanted to punch in the face. Anger is a weird feeling that not used to. When are six-year-old kept on running in front of the lawn mower, We brought it up to the mother and she told us just to ignore him. She yelled at my child for Not wanting to play with her kids That morning before going on the bus. Her kids who threatened to kill you for not doing what they want. They have no sense of boundaries. Someone my kids have had enough we just told them all right we need space. Kids went crying to their mom and she Shouted at my 10 year old. Saying that she doesn't like him she doesn't like our family and a whole bunch of nasty things. By the time I register that I heard someone yelling at my kid, I ran out the house and she was leaving. I was inside with my youngest. While my son was at the end of the driveway waiting for the bus. I hate that Woman. Those kids do serve so much better, I mean it's in the most insulting way I possibly can, Trailer trash b****, W****. I used to hold some kind of empathy or sympathy for their situations. I still do for their kids and grandmother but not for their mother. She can burn in h*** . These people are brokin somewhere inside them that makes it so they can't see or feel how they're Actions affect outside of themselves. It's like they see point a point B And the outcome they want. But nothing really around it. They don't foresee the full extent of the consequences of their actions. And it's pretty ironic because they're the ones acting out saying that they're abused when more often than not people who were actually abused the way these people are pretending act completely opposite. So sad the loss of humanity is just increasing rapidly.

[@notareallifetiger4817]

First story reminded me of those two fraternal twins with very different skin colours. One’s very light skinned with red hair and the other’s darker skinned with black hair and they pass as completely different races despite sharing a womb.

[@magnarcreed3801]

Race is such a dumb and wild idea to me. This lovely example you have being one reason.

[@misscat6055]

That's what similarly happened to me and my twin brother. My brother looks hella white and I look like im native American ( mom is white, dad is black and both are Mexican ) I stick out in family reunion picks on my moms side of the family lol

[@atinyevil1383]

I think I've seen pictures of the twins you're talking about. It's really interesting, you'd never think they were related.

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #2: Boyfriend is bonkers. Like, HBO series protagonist levels of bonkers. OP is right that it doesn't matter whom he has actually been cheating on her with, or even if he has been cheating on her. It is time to get that restraining order and become one of his *ex* girlfriends.

[@swedishmeatball4382]

Actually, he is so bonkers that I am wondering if he was trying to set OP up by revealing that the other woman was "just" his ex (add some sad story about how she had abused him etc) and trying to convince OP that they would have to kill the ex to protect him. It's a wild theory but it kind of fits here, considering how manipulative and bat shit the dude seems to be.

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 2: "I'm sleeping with my mother" is the dumbest excuse for adultery I've ever heard! If that isn't a call to action for the victim to break-up or to get the cheater help by alerting other family members then I don't know what is!

[@EveryDayALittleDeath]

Yes, biracial kids who have a white parent and a black parent usually have a skin tone somewhere in between their parents, but not always. There was a story a couple years ago about biracial fraternal twin sisters, and one was fairly dark skinned with dark textured hair, and the other looked fully white with red hair. Genetics are weird sometimes.

[@lottiequirk9673]

I thought of those twins instantly as well. Genetics are fascinating!

[@itsjustmaddisen]

I knew a biracial kid (his dad was black, his mum was white) and he looked Caucasian-blonde hair blue eyes just like his mum. I had no idea until I went to his place with some other friends that he was biracial.

[@juliemcgugan1244]

@@lottiequirk9673 If I remember rightly, the couple had another set of twins and again, they looked nothing alike!

[@juliemcgugan1244]

Not sure if it is the Durrant family from the UK that you were talking about, but their two sets of twin girls are even in the Guinness Book of World Records as the only two sets of twins in one family with different skin tones.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Holy shit OP in story 1 kinda buried the lead by not mentioning he’s refused therapy in the past and acted jealous and controlling too.

[@philwill0123]

And by not telling ANYONE what's going on. Like wtf. You are definitely allowing yourself to be gaslit, no matter what the result by staying silent.

[@squirrel670]

@@philwill0123 it's a normal response to people like this which they unconsciously try to protect their spouse by not making it "look worse than it seems".

[@flawfuljinx]

She even normalised that he "wanted [OP] to tell him where she was going and with who". It doesn't matter if he's being a great dad _now_, that doesn't excuse his actions unless he properly repented in which case he has yet to do. Sounds like OP normalised a lot of red flags as long as he acted good.

[@squirrel670]

@@flawfuljinx he normalized it to her. She didn't come up with this

[@Lily_of_the_Forest]

After a partner insults you, he/she does not get to say, “No” to therapy. The partner owes you.

[@tomiroot3942]

While I get where you’re coming from with this I think it’s kind of unhealthy in a relationship to say that your partner “owes” you anything- especially in such a tit for tat context

[@cmsxcb]

Story 1: Seems to me that OP is more worried that she can't be a single mom and is prepared to minimise any crap her partner pulls just so she doesn't have to be alone. Therapy isn't going to help because he knows she's so insecure that she won't go through with any threats she makes to make him improve. Won't be long before a 3rd kid arrives to try to fix the marriage. They're locked into an endless cycle, making each other miserable while pretending to love each other. Sad situation.

[@walkz007]

I get her completely ,you see how people talk it's not a easy decision even if it's the best one.Also she probably knows he won't be a good co parent so she will probably be doing 90% of everything

[@Acehigh-Jenkins]

Don’t forget f-ing the kids up on the way! Little girl learning to minimise controlling unacceptable behaviour from men and little boy learning to be a chip off the old block!

[@Rhaenarys]

@@walkz007 thats a crappy reason to stay in an abusive relationship. And make no mistake...this IS an abusive relationship. He's keeping tabs on her 24/7, that's concerning and a major red flag.

[@demonqueen3886]

@@walkz007 then she's going to suffer the consequences and so will her children because she decided to stay in a marriage because she's too scared to be a single parent and he's not likely to pay child support and if he doesn't then the court's will be involved I'd rather be a single parent than have to deal with my husband accusing me of cheating or that I have cheated that his kids aren't his

[@Davtwan]

The chemistry and compatibility is dying if not completely gone. If the chemistry doesn’t return after fixing compatibility with therapy, then the relationship is over. She’s going to have to be prepared to be a single mom with a possibly crappy co-parent, since the alternative of staying together is likely worse if their love doesn’t spark again. Hopefully, she has started documenting behaviors after that update. What a terrible situation all around.

[@helenlewis2510]

I don’t look like either of my parents so I did ask (kinda joking) if I was adopted. Turns out I’m a weird amalgamation of my grandparents from both sides. I’m built like my maternal grandmother but I have my paternal grandfather’s eyes such.

[@paden1865able]

Yeah, I look quite a bit like my dad's mother, but have my own mom's hair and eyes. Genetics can be wild!

[@S_K23]

I apprently have some facial features similar to my dad's grandfather and also my mom's younger brother (my uncle). I don't look like either of my parents at all lol. My sister looks a lot more like my dad's mother so neither of my parent's kids look like them lol. That's how genetics works sometimes.

[@kelseybordeaux9206]

I went through the same thing,as a Kid I was convinced I was adopted due to me not looking like my Family. They all had Dark Brown/Black hair with dark eyes,yet there I was with bright Blue eyes and Bleach Blonde hair...turns out I just have a Recessive Gene and am basically a Clone of my Grandmother XD

[@Sokew86]

My dad used to say that i look as his older passed sister. Only me of his 4 daughters. Genetics are complicated

[@bigpulgalokes]

i'm the light skinned version of my paternal grandma. the light skin i got from my mom.

[@brandi5126]

S1: Get a paternity test and then decide what you want to do next. I'm biracial and very fair skinned. Mixing such radically different genetics is really a toss up. You really can't go off of looks alone all the time.

[@kelseybordeaux9206]

Exactly,one of my Friends growing up was the oldest of 10 Children,her parents were Biracial. She and 2 other siblings were clearly Mixed,the rest of the siblings were either White or Black. She even joked about it saying "It's like a prize in a Cracker Jack Box,you never know what you're going to get!". If he's Dumb enough to not even know the basics of his OWN Children than he shouldn't be a Father period.

[@stephanien6237]

Did… did you just tell the female OP to get a paternity test BEFORE determining what to do next? She knows the baby is hers. She should decide what to do first. Whether she wants to stay with a man who accuses her of cheating. I love the idea of her requiring couples counseling as a condition of not divorcing him.

[@mellodees3663]

@@stephanien6237 I can see that maybe rubbing the father's face in his colorism can also be proof for the divorce attorneys that he's the crazy one.

[@amandab8433]

I am African American and my husband is Caucasian. We have three children and not a one looks anything like me. Especially our youngest, a daughter. I have pretty dark skin, brown eyes, and 4C hair. Our daughter basically looks "White", paler than my husband. She has very pale skin (she doesn't tan, she burns), light gray eyes, and long wavy Ginger hair, and I'm talking GINGER ❤️. Think Merida 😅. From day one I've been asked if she was adopted, was I her Nanny, babysitter, etc. Traveling, especially out of the US, we more than not get stopped by customs to make sure that she is indeed mine. When traveling I carry her birth certificate (copy), baby photos, and a few others things. Our two oldest, both boys, are as different from each other as they are from me. Oldest is always mistaken for Italian or Spanish. Middle son is always mistaken for Latino. So it's a Genetic dice roll when you have "mixed children".

[@magnarcreed3801]

Even in similar colored partners you can’t. Genetics from twenty ancestors ago can pop up among with spontaneous mutations.

[@mrbadguysan]

Getting your kid tested behind your wife’s back is only a good idea if you don’t get caught. In other words, it’s a terrible idea.

[@spicymayo8950]

LOL USING THIS LINE

[@magnarcreed3801]

Never a good idea.

[@mrbadguysan]

@@thecursed01 that’s not for me, that’s for your local legislature.

[@brucewaite3733]

It's a father's right to do so. He shouldn't have to go behind her back

[@magnarcreed3801]

@@brucewaite3733 It’s the mothers right to leave for being accused of cheating without damn good reason.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Story 2: who the fuck thinks incest is somehow more acceptable than cheating. Edit: this guy seem genuinely disturbed and I hope OP goes through with getting the restraining order

[@Gumbier_Than]

Incest? No. Groomed to commit incest? Not acceptable but the person would be sexually abused. He crafted the story that his mother started having sex with him at age 13, when a young man cannot consent and the ripe age for grooming. Being a victim is more acceptable than being a cheater.

[@pippo17173]

I don't get why the family won't tell her because if they really care about this, they will help inform for a restaining order because something is fucking up.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Someone who watches way too much pornhub is my only guess. For real though, dude has issues.

[@lynnw7155]

I wonder what 'legal action' OP can take against the boyfriend. Being a jerk isn't illegal (unfortunately).

[@tallyp.7643]

Hope OP talks to dad again and fills him in on what's going on, and explains that their relationship is over, but his son is just spewing lies right and left for the dumbest/worst reasons. That the son needs some kind of help, because he's dragging women into this weird fantasy world of lies, to the point one's got a restraining order against him. He's not gonna be good to any woman til he gets help, or himself at this point.

[@Rhaenarys]

I think everyone is ignoring the obvious red flags OP was telling us. She has to tell him where's she's going and when she's coming home? Check in like a dog? Wow, that's a major red flag, he's controlling and she needs to leave yesterday. Never think you can't do it.

[@Dustin81]

Well some people want to know their partners plans are so they can then also plan their day accordingly. If you don't know their plans, you might both come home with the same exact set of groceries needed from the list while also inadvertently going over your budget doing so. Also to make sure they don't cause any other inconvenience conflicting plans can bring. Or one neglects saying they are going to be home late from work when an activity planned. It's being considerate of each other's time. Of course it really depends of how you go about it. Are you acting like a prison warden or asking plans only one in a while?

[@alloriavarner8304]

Ok I agree that there probably things that ARE controlling behavior that she didn’t mention but telling your partner where you’re going & when you’ll be back should be normal. Number 1 safety. For safety reasons you should know where your loved one is & when you should expect them back. Number 2 consideration. Especially, when you have children.

[@Rhaenarys]

@@alloriavarner8304 letting your partner know youre on your way home is one thing. But iirc, been a yr, this was overtly controlling, like they couldnt even run to the bathroom without letting the partner know, or get yelled at like they are in trouble. Thats the difference and the red flag, like you decide to go to the store to get milk one day while they are at work, dont tell them, only for them to find out and make it out like the ultimate betrayal. Thats sick and a major red flag.

[@ajlee4296]

Story 1: I’m not a confrontational person, but I swear my answer to that email would have been “how dare you, don’t even think about setting foot in this house again.”

[@youarehere594]

First one, omg this guy is just off. I very much doubt that couples counseling would do any good since he didn't want counseling in the first place and is only going through with it because OP is ready to walk. Second, wow, just wow. This guy is just scary. I'm glad OP is getting out of that relationship and I hope he doesn't go stalker on her.

[@You_said_what1]

My husband did this when one of our twins came out blonde hair, blue eyes. I told him if he wants a paternity test I better never find out or I’d leave him in a second. He swears he never did but I’ll never know for sure. Around 2yo he just broke down crying one day for ever denying her. Same time her hair and eyes turned brown. She is now the apple of his eye and no surprise, my clone.

[@streamerssaymyname]

My husband never doubted me, but I think it made sense to us that our kids would come out fair skinned with brown curly hair because it was an exact mix of our genetics, my husband has black curly hair and I'm pale af. One latino guy, upon first meeting us, claimed our son wasn't his because of the skin/hair color. It can be fun to see how genetics play out, we have two now and one has large ear canals (like his father) and the other was born with a mole on the bottom of his foot (like me). Both have their fathers eyes and it kind of makes me sad that none of our kids would ever have my color eyes, because genetics.

[@tamsel814]

@@streamerssaymyname your grandkids may end up getting them. And hopefully their parents will be smarter then old husband and understand genetics

[@LisaApril]

Story one: I would never tolerate my husband having to know all of my movements. If I were to tell him in passing I’m going out to so and so later today or something like that’s one thing but for him to demand it? For him to demand I respond to his text right away? That is actually controlling and she can definitely do better.

[@filliaa3661]

Ironically enough this also promotes mistrust, which is the opposite of what people would be doing it for. Having to find out your partner's movements a lot will lead you to focus in on them, and connecting dots that arent even there. Having trust and not micromanaging is the only waay to go :/

[@selfaware3940]

Its funny though how all that "trust" goes out of the window when I am having drinks after work with a female co worker... My wife literally went on an international business trip with a male co worker and and then flipped out when I had a drink after work with a female co worker. That's when I heard the "oh that was different!" Yup it was, I went for a drink while my wife went to Finland, Utah and Amsterdam with other guys while I was left at home with the kids! If absolute trust is demanded of me then you had better damn well be able to reciprocate. There is also, don't yell at me, a reason for wanting to know who your wife is with... A bunch of single friends out looking for Chad and Tyrone with my wife being the only married one ..sure that will end well! ..or how about her mad friend Julie in the open relationship...oh what ideas she might pick up there ...

[@issecret1]

​@@selfaware3940 so your wife is toxic and instead of asking her to be a normal person, you decide to be toxic too. Good luck with that. And the future in-laws

[@jmrggrmj9330]

Story 1: he did a paternity test yet he tested her with the email. What an AH. I understand that ignorance can leed to stupidity, I can forgive ignorance (as long as is not wilful ignorance) but this makes me believe he is the cheater.

[@WellWoopdidoo]

Plus he did the DNA test as soon as they got back from the hospital, but he was still shitty to her and the kid for weeks and still decided to “test her” despite there being absolutely no evidence or indication that she’d ever cheated. He already knew it was his kid. The man needs therapy and she needs to leave.

[@Orinatl]

Test + Divorce = proper reaction

[@ddjohnson3961]

The first story made me think of my family. We got albinos in our family and this still came up. People were still skeptical if the baby was my cousins. People are stupid

[@KatieB33]

I had my ex do the same to me at the birth of our second child. It was a horrible time. The reality is, his son is a fair version of him.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Storyv2 the lie is much much worse than cheating! Literally if you'd lie about that, you'd lie about anything. It would be so over for me.

[@BootyCrusader]

He lied about screwing his d e a d mother. Absolute psychopath!

[@vengeance4927]

When it comes to a partner asking for a paternity test when it wasn't previously discussed, it's not about the test. It's about the lack of trust from the asker, especially when there's an unfounded accusation of cheating. Yes, getting the test would be the most logical route, but it's not about the test, it's about the trust that relationships like that are built upon. I feel so bad for OP in that first story.

[@Dragonemperess]

People complain about Reddit being inconsistent have to remember that each post will have different people reading it. Reddit isn't one person, after all. So when posting something you just might get more of certain people of a certain opinion on at that time. To check if people on Reddit are truly wishy washy, you would have to have the same group of people vote on a group of posts that vary in their OPs.

[@pippo17173]

I legit started to wonder why we don't teach more people about how genetics can give you a cespool of DNA and looks from both sides. These kinds of stories here always get me that feeling that one or the other had no idea that the team Chimaria is a thing when kids are born and they will look different.

[@jstar1054]

they do, people just forget everything once the test is done

[@LunaP1]

They should be learning how genetics are like a chaotic roulette wheel with multiple rings and a marble for each ring. Where they land is anyone's guess.

[@dianasmith8248]

@@LunaP1 Yep. My siblings and I are full white and have the same parents. I am whiter than sour cream, People automatically assume that my brother is Hispanic because he has a much darker skin tone than I do and our sister is right in the middle.

[@cl5470]

Men know, they just like to have an excuse to duck and be deadbeats. This is why we should DNA test all babies and make being a deadbeat a felony. Especially in states with forced birth laws.

[@HealthyObbsession]

@@jstar1054 not everyone has the same level or quality of science in school I was in special education in high for science math and world history The books we had for biology were at least 20 years old Some schools, religious-based and home-schooling ones might not even have science classes

[@maheenahmed6653]

I’ve seen a post somewhere about a set of twins, one was white passing and the other was darker skinned. Except for that and I thunk hair color, they looked exactly alike. Same curly hair as well. I think op should just do the test. There’s distrust on both parties and that’s not good. That’s not normal.

[@Barlmoro]

i read about such a twinpair too. Genes sometimes are strange what can happen. But maybe a story that let drop your jaw. There was a case of a twin birth (not identical) and the Husband request a DNA test. Result: Both childs are not from him and the childs are only half siblings. what happen? wife cheatet on a day with multiple men and had the rare thing happen that 2 eggs get rdy on the same day and she get knocked up by two men on the same day. explain this to the childs later xD

[@joaolima7131]

Here in Brazil there was even a case of a girl who had two babies from different fathers

[@Italktocarrots]

cuddling my 9 week old kitten 🐈‍⬛ with this ep! so happy

[@paden1865able]

I miss having cats that young, such sweet cuddle sessions!

[@mbyerly9680]

Cover his ears during the racy parts.

[@floraposteschild4184]

S1 8:12 I wanted couples' therapy -- he said no, which is what he always said when I asked in the past. Ah hah! So much for the perfect relationship before this debacle. Denial is not only a river in Africa.

[@DoritoBot9000]

Yeah, it’s a known fact that almost all stories on Reddit where the OP starts by describing how wonderful their relationship is end up revealing abuse, or in the best of cases, an asshole of a partner.

[@tamsel814]

I disagree with the commenter saying that op should agree with the test because she has nothing to hide. Not having something to hide is a stupid reason to do something and completely ignored personal rights and privacy. (I do agree that op should allow the test, but not for that reason)

[@HackiePuffs]

THANK YOU SOMEONE SAID IT

[@Wander85942]

I have nothing against a paternity test. Sometimes a situation calls for it but if I’ve been with you for a number of years. Your reason for a test better to be sure there was not an accidental switch not you accusing me of something I’d never do.

[@nicknitro86]

"We always had trust issues...oh how could he want a paternity test??" ---- Oh God just say admit to snooping.

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 1: Get the paternity test, and get a divorce attorney. He does not trust you. If there is no trust, then there cannot possibly be love. It is gone.

[@TDArulesclub4]

First story: If he’s accusing OP of cheating and paranoid about it THAT MUCH, it’s very likely he’s the one cheating.

[@fhuber7507]

2... OP needed to just dump that walking pile of crap upon finding the texts. Game over.

[@Russman67]

Story 2: This is a mind f---. I'd put some distance between her and the boyfriend before he does something physical to her.

[@Cassandra765]

Story 1: Yeah, my husband would be dumped super-fast if he acted this way towards me. Wanting a paternity test is one thing, which would still be a massive blow to the relationship for me personally, but even with the knowledge that his son was his, he decided to double down and treat OP like garbage. This marriage would be done for me. Story 2: How did this guy think incest was a good a way to cover up his cheating? Ugh!

[@marahbaker8615]

Story 1: I can understand the paternity test, but the fact he knew for the majority of the two weeks that the child was his and still pulled this crap is unacceptable.

[@LokasennaCole]

I can see the other side of this as well though. In refusing the test, she makes her self look guilty. The accusation of cheating, yeah, that could be upsetting, but "I'll take the test but you better be ready to make it up to me for doubting me " is much much much less suspicious than outright refusing, and the initial refusal would make me wonder if she was trying to hide something even if the test came out good.

[@diamcole]

@@LokasennaCole She didn't make herself guilty of anything. Especially now that we know he got the test done the first day and STILL tried to bait her. Come the fuck on lol you're reaching for something that was never there.

[@nathanhinman9069]

I like watching different reddit readers, usually they'll have different stories but sometimes they will cover the same story. Watched Markee's video today first where there was a wholesome story first (really heartwarming and feel good) and then he ended with the same crazy ex story that Mark did here, it was a 180 WTF turnaround. Mark kinda softened the blow with the paranoid husband in the first post. Mark and Markee each have their own styles and I really do enjoy seeing both perspectives when they cover the same posts, CBAT was another great example. Mark has a calm, soothing way of reading while Markee will have a bit more of a cheeky response (though Mark does get cheeky in his own way).

[@jackiea.7971]

I watch both of those KZbinrs as well and yeah, I can see what you mean 😇

[@astronautviolet153]

story: 1 Op can take the paternity test, but also give him divorce papers because I know. Issues beginning of the relationship, but being so hateful towards his own son. Will look at him differently can't be with him.

[@beccathibodeaux3385]

Forget therapy and get a divorce lawyer. There ain’t no way of coming back from that

[@helar2574]

Story 2: Wow, that's some pretty incredible lying on BF side, for some reason i kinda think he is sociopath or something similar, because no one in clear mind can lie about having s*x with mom, when it can be easily disproved by father for example. Or lying about hooking up with ex, while, again, ex is easily approachable

[@Deergon]

Story 2 was an entire Telenovela with 4 seasons and more twists and turns than a rollercoaster.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

Story 2: The most messed up part of this? The boyfriend made up the lie about the mother because he figured OP would stay with him. AND SHE DID. She thought he was being abused and tried to help him through it. Most people would have walked away as soon as they heard that lie.

[@dumbbich3882]

I agree like wth

[@CircusoftheMoon]

If you want a paternity test, I’m down. I have never cheated, never will, I’ve got nothing to hide and if you want to be sure then go off. Now, if you treat me like a cheater until the results come in? That’s at minimum therapy and if it’s bad enough divorce-worthy.

[@hothotheat3000]

I’d have replied to the email with “further communication will go through my divorce attorney” and left it at that. Why fight to stay with someone who thinks so little of me? To hell with counseling.

[@carolynperry7134]

He lies on his Dead Mother and accuses her of incest. Sick. Who does that?

[@SteviiLove]

That first dude is totally projecting. I don't know if he's cheating but he definitely wanted an easy out where OP was at fault while he was the victim. His comment about the DNA test still not being enough and hoping the email would make her confess means he had no intention of making this work; he was looking for OP to give him an excuse to leave and that's why he got so butthurt when it didn't work.

[@copercurlz]

Holy hell on story 2! I can't even think why anyone would do such a thing. That man needs some serious help. Who thinks lying about such a large claim wouldn't go to his father or try to figure out how to help? Or that even lying like that is okay. I hope the best for OP and that she can get rid of that crazy man. I also hope that he gets some much needed help.

[@pinkesthibiscus]

Soo close to 100k now! I check on every vid and it’s going up fast. Exciting & 100% deserved. These videos make my day 😊💗

[@weltschmertzz]

Story 1 : what a crazy husband. Even when slapped with concrete evidence, he willfully chooses to believe the fiction in his mind. He agrees to the couple's counseling not because of his craziness but sort of as a favor to his wife.

[@michawilliams1521]

1st story: this not about being black or white. This is about being a total azz wipe. As a black man and just a man period I'm sadend at what this man put you through. I can read in your update the most of the trust is gone and it will be hard getting it back without a lot of work on his part mostly. Counceling is the best thing right now if he really wants to save this marriage. It will be a long road back and I wish her nothing but luck.

[@baseupp12]

Yeah no that relationship is over he doesn't trust you, and only wants to do therapy because you are essentially forcing him. Leave him raising a child in that environment is far worse then being a single parent.

[@charlotteinnocent8752]

The lack of trust would be a deal breaker for me.

[@ggdail]

Story 1: Just think of how many scenarios like this could be nipped in the bud if hospitals just did mandatory DNA tests & made it a non-issue.

[@uh8myzen]

I hear this a lot, however, the government forcing DNA testing on all newborns is not something that everybody approves of and will be an incredibly hard sell for a lot of people. I say this as a man, I'm not in favour of it if its simply to assuage men's insecurity around infidelity. The only way I would even consider being in favour of mandatory DNA testing is if it were done with the purpose of screening for genetic disorders and such screening could possibly improve the child's healthcare outcomes in the future. If they test for ancestry as well at that time, fine, but until then, government mandated DNA testing is a hard no for me.

[@takeyiatwitty2216]

But that didn't really matter in this case? He did the test and still thought she was cheating and continued to treat the baby and mom badly until he decided, pretty arbitrarily, that she must not have cheated. I'm not against paternity tests but I feel that needs to be a discussion had with your partner BEFORE the baby is even made much less once you're in the hospital. And if a dad doesn't feel the need to test I also feel it's weird to put that in place.

[@ggdail]

@@uh8myzen Health screening would also be another benefit. Making sure the couple is taking home the right baby is another. And yes, naturally, curtailing paternity fraud. Couples could opt out of testing, but the testing should be the default.

[@ggdail]

@@takeyiatwitty2216 If the hospital automatically did this, it might've kept him from from falling down the "she's probably cheating" spiral. Requiring the an opt out would keep a lot of couples from having to go through the "he wants to take it because thinks I'm a cheater"/"she doesn't want to take it because she's cheating" dilemma.

[@takeyiatwitty2216]

@@ggdail Generally speaking I can understand your point. But in this specific instance I don't think it would have. OP freely admits that both have had trust issues in the past and he still was distrustful after the test. And from the story it seems like he would have found any excuse even with a positive test from the hospital. While there's a debate to be had it doesn't really apply here.

[@kbomb234]

What, and I say this with my whole chest, the actual *fuck* is wrong with the bf in Story 2!?

[@pilyq2079]

story1: in my case, i would do it only with the condition of couple consealing and individual therapy if necessary. I understand that some women baby trap others with an other´s man baby but if my partner think so low of me without a reason I don´t see the relationship going on

[@magnarcreed3801]

Yeah f that. I’d need an actually good reason to consider it and not leave. Like sus shit. But anyone with basic genetic understanding should know genes do what they want.

[@Dustin81]

Say they got pregnant very early in the relationship, they had sex with several guys while not exclusive and only found out they were pregnant after they became exclusive with one of them.

[@pilyq2079]

@@Dustin81 that's going to appear in the first check up. When they tell you how many weeks old is the fetus. In that case the paternity test is understandable, they weren't exclusive

[@mariapaz6379]

story one is just as everyone says. They have a very difficult relationship and it doesnt seem worth to pursue. OP saying that she didn't see herself being a single mom or having split custody is worrying. But the dad has all these toxic behaviors that on the long run, might impact negatively on their children, this is not a "red flag", this is an actively abusive situation.

[@cheskydivision]

Wonder if hubby would be upset if baby came out to dark and op was disappointed.

[@susandevlin5981]

Unforgivable, the damage is done and you'll never feel the same way about him. Face it, he blew it and there's no fixing this. He's killed your feelings for him

[@DarkNaifu]

Wow, that first story is a dumpster fire. She should definitely leave him before his insecurities start getting out of hand. Honestly, its disturbing that she thinks his constant checking up on her was okay to begin with.

[@loganjoh1]

The fact he didn’t believe the test results and he still sends her a email to confront her? Who does that?

[@locusxe1411]

I think mandatory paternity tests should be a thing. It’s not about trust. I can trust you with all my heart and still want a paternity test. It’s just for assurance. But in this story he accused you of cheating. Not only that but he did a paternity test once your kid was born and saw he was the father but decided that you were lying to him somehow

[@TsukiKageTora]

I’d think they should do that at the hospital as so many children get swapped

[@Barlmoro]

i will do a test with all childs too, cose i see to many nice men get destroyed by some unfaithful wifes and ther storys are all the same: The did not expect this. But i comunicate this with every girl early in the realtionship that i wannt them to feel better.

[@zashgekido5616]

The thing about a mandatory paternity test is it takes the pressure off the relationship itself. To make it universal doesn't imply anything but precaution, to go out of your way and personally ask your SO? That implies mistrust

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

So the woman just gave birth, one of the most traumatic things a body can go through and then give a test which questions her integrity. You will see birth rates between couples take a nose dive and IVF for single women go up

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

@@zashgekido5616 you want to basically tell a woman who just gave birth, one of the most traumatic things a body can go through, that you don't believe the kid is yours and you think she's a cheater? You will see birth rates for couples nose dive

[@kevinradford9336]

If you care about the person you will get the test and then confront him on their trust issue and what is really the cause for this mistrust.

[@mrbadguysan]

The man in Story 2 is a demonic menace!

[@mimikiryuu]

I'm the type to believe paternity tests should be mandatory for those who want to sign the birth certificate. I'm also the type to say if you already signed it and you baselessly accuse your spouse of cheating, you're nuking your relationship even if the kid is yours.

[@browniewin4121]

1) I feel sorry for OP that her husband is behaving so badly. I think his lack of communication and how nasty he has been to her and his baby would be a deal breaker for me unless he gets his head on straight. After update: OMG, he was so deceptive and awful. Without therapy there is no hope, but I think he has crossed a line there is no return from because he has killed OP's love for him. 2) Oy, what a mess. His mom is predatory and abused him, this is so awful. She needs to be held accountable, and he has been so awful towards OP. After update: I'm glad OP talked to the dad. How crazy this has gotten ... what the hell with those texts and what he told his girlfriend ... so bizarre. What a schmuck this guy is, so glad OP found out the truth. He is a huge creep. After update: What a mess, so sorry this happened to OP. After next update: Glad things are getting better with OP having help from her supportive parents. Wow, her X is a pathological lier, so glad he is out of her life now.

[@casualcausalityy]

Women never have to worry about a man committing paternity fraud. This seems to leave them unsympathetic to the very real fear men have of raising another man's child unknowingly

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

Please do get the DNA test, if for nothing else than to save a life long of hurt for you son. So, he doesn't go through what I did. Genetics are such a crazy thing. My father is Puerto Rican/Taino (native of the island)/African, and my mom is French. My brother and sister were born with mocha colored skin, with course hair and brown eyes like my dad. When I was born, I was fair skinned, with straight black hair, and amber eyes. My father immediately accused my mom of having an affair. This was 51 years ago, and there was no such thing as a DNA test. My dad divorced my mom, and paid child support. But, once my brother and sister moved out, he stopped. He had his entire family believing I was not his, so they were never really in my life. My dad's side would send birthday and Christmas gifts for my sibs, but never for me. Needless to say I never had much of a relationship with my father, or his side of the family. I even questioned it a little when I was a tween. But, I believed my mom, and so did my sibs. So, they would always argue and stick up for me with that side of the family. But, it always fell on deaf ears. I was unbelievably blessed in the fact that my stepdad raised me, and loved me as if I was his own flesh and blood. Well, many years later my dad needed a liver transplant, and everyone in the family was tested. My mom said I should test, and I outright refused at first. But, then my sister told me this could finally dispell all the doubts. So, I was tested, and had a DNA test. I didn't match for the liver, however the DNA proved that he was indeed 99.998% my father. He, and his entire family were speachless. They all tried to reachout to me to apologize, but I told them all where to go, especially my father. When I got married, my father expected that he would walk me down the aisle, but I told him NO, and that my real dad (stepdad) rightfully deserved the honor. However, when I became pregnant with my twins, I came to realize that if I wanted to be the best mom possible, I needed to resolve things with my father. I reached out, and let him know that if he wanted anything to do with my children or myself, that he had to agree to family counseling. He did, and we were able to work through things. We were never father/daughter "close." But, we repaired enough of our issues, that we did have a somewhat decent relationship until he passed 10 years later. When I gave birth to my 3 children, my husband never once questioned paternity. However, while I have never cheated on him, I had a DNA test just for the record.

[@cmbhey8164]

She got involved with a sociopath. I know how disturbing that revelation is. Fortunately, I found out after the first date and called it off. Still had some issues with him harassing me at work since he worked there too

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Hey you yes you remember to take care of yourself gosh darn it, you are always valid, and I love you and care about you so please take care of yourself 💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@FlamesofJagger]

Hey Broken. Hope you're doing well. Stay positive and keep moving forward. Much love

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@FlamesofJagger much love m8💜💜🤗🤗

[@Tijggie82]

Holy flip, that last story is just CRAZY!!!

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

On a field trip for school

[@tracy238]

I'd be getting the paternity test and divorce him when it proves he's the father. There is no trust that you need for a relationship. It is certainly easier to be a solo parent than it is to put up with all that stuff.

[@Silence-1170]

Hi waffles hope your all doing well! Had to go back into the dentist because of a real bad toothache I had last night. Stay safe and stay positive waffles!

[@ivy4104]

Oh no! Hope you get better soon!

[@Silence-1170]

@@ivy4104 thank You! It doesn't hurt as much anymore but were still going in anyways to make sure.

[@kristinecollier8113]

That sucks! Good luck it's nothing serious!!

[@Silence-1170]

@@kristinecollier8113 thanks!

[@StillTired2024]

Story 2: Run op. RUN. RUN LIKE HELL!!! GET THAT RESTRAINING ORDER AND MOVE AS FAR AWAY FROM THAT PSYCHO AS POSSIBLE!!! Never before have I actually feared for an op! 😨😨😨

[@reptiles3244]

Story 1. Leave his ass

[@nicoleposada7916]

It should be mandatory to take a 101 gene class during the birth, and yah a paternity test after the birth in case hospital changes kids

[@m.hasler7263]

Or it could just be mandatory to have a paternity test at birth and remove all doubt

[@AuntLoopy123]

Thank you for the content warning! I don't have flashbacks to my accident, anymore, but for YEARS, I wished people would give warnings about car crashes. Especially in movies and TV shows.

[@holyek7892]

I love this video! It's like Jerry Springer show but better! The narration makes it even more satisfying! Thank you Mark!

[@Maddy_B]

Story 1- I swear the dad posted his version but he said the baby was “too dark”. Otherwise it’s all the same. He said he messed up and thought his wife was cheating. I just heard it this morning.

[@ryderlisa1]

if any man ever asks you to take a paternity test and you know you have not cheated you do not argue at all you say okay sure but when it is come back and you are the dad we are getting a divorce etc

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

This right here. Give the test through the courts and when the results come back positive, shove the results and the divorce papers so far up his ass, he will taste paper for a week.

[@jasperj.d.g.4147]

Yep, "you have every right to be sure, and I have every right to not want to be with someone who thinks I'm a cheater"

[@WobblesandBean]

I'd divorce him. Full stop. No second chances, no humoring him long enough to hear his "apology", none of that. I'd be gone and have the divorce papers served to him at work for maximum visibility.

[@TheArnaa]

Saw the title and went “Oh, that’s not good.” Edited to add: Yep, not good. Genetics are nuts. I know a family with a black hair, dark eyes and olive skinned mother and a blond, blue eyed white father. The first child has dark hair, dark eyes and olive skin like his mum. They had six children, and each child has progressively lighter hair, eyes and skin until the youngest is blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin. Story 2: what a wild ride! I’m glad OP got herself out of that mess.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Yup. My family is an absolute cluster of DNA. My mum and I are the only gingers in a family that comes from Europe and the Middle East. A lot of my family definitely has the tan skin, dark eyes and hair whereas my mum and I are pale, have grey eyes and bright red hair and freckles lol.

[@andreavanhoof6047]

Story 1: Get a paternity test; you know that you didn't cheat and when the results states that he is the father slap; then serve him divorce papers!

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 nta but I feel mandatory paternity test should be legal. To many dudes are duped into raising kids that aren't theirs.

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

And you will see birth rates take a massive nose dive between couples and IVF with single women skyrocket. What woman would have a baby with a man and then have her integrity questioned after she gave birth, when she's in pain and her hormones are all over the place?

[@danielforrester5265]

Maternity tests too. There are cases of hospitals, fertility clinics etc mixing up babies, embryos , sperm etc.

[@Rancorous_Ryan]

Either mandatory DNA testing or proof of not being the Father should absolve them of all child support obligations and in case of marriage/ civil partnership the unwilling non-Father should be financially restituted the equivalent of child support for the amount of time spent raising the child.

[@sgtwhisker26]

And I feel like we should have a better sexual education

[@streamerssaymyname]

Are you like the rest of your "paternity tests should be mandatoey" crowd and believe women have no right to be upset about being accused of cheating (the only way the child wouldn't be the partners kid, and no way around it) and that divorcing/breaking up would make the woman "evil" and how child support shouldn't be legal? Because you guys only seem to care about the benefit of the men and not the women and children affected.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

S1: Even after doing the test behind his wife's back and finding out the kid is his, he's still throwing around accusations. Now I get it- technically, the kid being his doesn't mean his wife didn't cheat. But his suspicions are totally unfounded and without evidence. I'd wager a lot of money that OP's husband is the one stepping out, and his paranoia is just confession through projection.

[@nyx.8254]

Hey waffle gang ,hope you're all lovin life!!!

[@OZARKMOON1960]

99.9 - what kind of party are we having at 100k? congrats on all the growth, Mark - it is all due to your hard work!

[@paden1865able]

It's time for a break after working around the house all morning. Who better to share it with than Waffle Bear, Poppy, and the Waffle Gang?

[@shhd2105]

First of all it's common for black babies to come out the womb with light skin and then get darker. If you look at my newborn photos my skintone was very pale and now I'm brown lol and that's with having two black parents. So I would totally expect a biracial baby to come out "white". How can he have a child with a white women then act surprised when the babies white??? My cousin who is a black women recently had a baby with her husband whose white and their baby came out white too, is she not the mother??? Just goofy

[@kristir1262]

Story 1: there was an update 8 years ago, one year after original post. They're separated at that point, and op admits he was emotionally abusive. She downplayed a lot of that because she was stuck in the relationship. 🤷. Sort of a good update, i think.

[@DBG-fh7io]

Never been this early before. Hope you’re doing well Mark.

[@treehouse2902]

Even when the kids are from same-race parents, the accusation of cheating is a deal breaker. Some women do the test and file for divorce. Genetic counseling should be part of prenatal care for biracial couples having a child. The child could look completely look like one parent than the other and yet the DNA matches. In this case, he doesn't trust her and the marriage is never the same again even if the kid is his. He also refused counseling until he realized that could mean a rocky marriage and even divorce. She already sees him as a different man. I would end the marriage.