My Mom Lied That A Family Member Had Cancer To Hide Her Affair Baby r/Relationships

[@lancerevell5979]

Story two..... OP is the controlling one here, and coming across as a total creep. He has NO PART in the woman's relationship with her BF. He needs to back off, stop stalking and harassing them. I wouldn't be surprised if BF ends up getting police involved, and getting a cease&desist or no contact order against OP.

[@angeliccow]

I just love how whenever anyone said he was creepy - he responded as if it was directed to the BF

[@debbymccormack6525]

You can't get a cease and desist order against a pillar. Come on man! Lol

[@cmwillisful]

Really, who wants to be with a girl who wants to be with someone else? Who wants to play second fiddle, following behind the couple to collect whatever crumbs she tosses your way?

[@robertx8020]

@@debbymccormack6525 lol :) We could almost turn this video in a drinking game ;)

[@brigidtheirish]

@A H He was talking about OP being the guy following the couple around.

[@Misspellednumbers]

Lol the audacity of this woman. She blames her daughter for telling the truth, but still wants a relationship with said daughter because everyone else cut mom off. Gtfo with that guilt tripping.

[@pippo17173]

People say it's a sad ending but I say it's a win on the sole fact that the mom got no one. She will live alone with her own horrid mother for the rest of time.

[@Barlmoro]

@@pippo17173 its refreshing to hear that the only person is on her side is the gran. And its good to that the AP become a outcase too, not for the kids bud if he wanna redeme him, he has to kick her bud in future too.

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@Barlmoro OH! Well AP needs to get a job and stop relying on parent because now he can taste his ridiculous stupid decision with his AP and raise their "kids" together albeit they need to cut each others throat

[@Endonia-ym3sl]

Story 2 - "Nice Guy who can't take a hint" OP needs to get it through his head that A and her boyfriend don't want him involved with their relationship.

[@amandab8433]

But.. But.. He's such a strong Pillar 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zerobolt9506]

Can someone explain why she didn't just let him end the friendship at the beginning like he said he would? This is the part that's missing with my head the most.

[@fate_clotho9596]

@Zero Bolt I'm betting she's a sweet girl, with people pleasing tendencies, so agreed to remain friends with him. AND to his creepy as fuck relationship thing he wanted to do with her and her boyfriend. BUT, boyfriend is helping her grow a nice, new, shiny spine! So she finally had the strength to tell this scary, future stalker to fuck right off! I say good for her! AND good for the boyfriend for helping her grow stronger!

[@zerobolt9506]

@@fate_clotho9596 wait isn't he already a stalker?

[@BraveryWing26]

He's not nice but we all know that already so GREAT POST!

[@LadyJoolree]

Story 2 OP is seriously enmeshed and needs much professional guidance. He's not a pillar he's a bear trap! 😬

[@krazycats564]

No no, the boyfriend isn't even that bad, he just isn't respecting OP being apart of his relationship. He's not a bear trap, he just doesn't understand /s

[@LadyJoolree]

@@krazycats564 Ooooh, you had me for a second there.

[@BloodredRose84]

Last story: This guy is in complete in-denial! Seriously this is how killers are made! She is going to get a restraining order on him and he is going to snap! He needs serous help!

[@jessilyngray1223]

Story two...I fear for that girl. Her "friend" is attached to her and not in a good way. If she doesn't get away now I worry that they're all going to end up on some crime show.

[@lynnw7155]

That guy is creepy as hell. It kind of reminds me of the stories where someone's parent goes on all the dates (and probably sits between them, when he isn't being a pillar).

[@annisa8863]

This story can't be real, surely. It has to be a troll. Its just the way its written, almost in a very self aware kind of way.

[@eowyn8340]

@@annisa8863 it could be real. I had (past tense) a guy friend who was getting way too attached so I stepped back a little. He sent me a ranting email at work (we worked in the same school district) about how I’d offended him and “maybe when we’re in Heaven he’ll find out what he did to tick me off.” He was so out there.

[@krazycats564]

@@lynnw7155 I love how he kept saying "no no, I don't think the boyfriend is creepy" Like no dude. You are

[@sweetdisposition8085]

Frr joe vibes

[@jamisonosborne]

Story 2: "I write poetry so I'm really good with metaphors". That statement tells you everything you need to know about the type of person OP is.

[@dizzysdoings]

He's not a person, he's at pillar 😂

[@carolroberts4614]

I'm not sure the young lady would care to be described as a monument either!

[@lucere3674]

Story two was the most oblivious and self serving nice guy story I have ever heard.

[@emmys.8323]

He’s trying to force a poly relationship while saying he doesn’t want to force the boyfriend into a poly relationship 💀 he’s literally contradicting himself with his behaviour and the things he says

[@emmys.8323]

Ok I’m currently listening to the comments and OPs replies… and now I just thing that guy needs some serious therapy, he has an extremely weird obsession with his childhood friend

[@puli_dreadhead]

Even if you were childhood friends, she can still cut you off without the closure you need. The lack of quality time is a clear sign because she already said she doesn’t see you any more than a friend and not a partner.

[@devchekhov7512]

I don't think she'll have him walking her down the aisle anymore 🤣

[@zerobolt9506]

I just want to know why she didn't let him end their friendship at the beginning, why let it get this far?

[@someanon1984]

Story 2 is one of the most neckbeard-y things I've heard in a long time. OP's female friend needs to get a big dog or learn self-defense or something. Poor girl.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

“The most neckbeard-y thing,” ha! Now _that_ is poetry! (And so true.)

[@someanon1984]

@@mkuti-childress3625 I'm a poet and I didn't know it! lmao

[@TheMadagascarqueen]

I was thinking more of a (TM) nice guy

[@someanon1984]

@@TheMadagascarqueen It's definitely some variety of entitled misogynist. lol

[@AppleStrawberryLove]

I've been in polyamorous relationships (I had a boyfriend who was seeing multiple people and a girlfriend at the same time). Story 2 had me screaming about how this is not how you make poly work. If you have to pressure someone into it, they're not down for it. For another thing, you just basically invited yourself into their relationship. Just... no. If you can't handle not being her boyfriend or just friends, then *you*, good sir, are the problem and need to walk away for both your sakes. Also his inability to catch on that commenters were calling him creepy... dude. Really? Finally, dude, you are not a good poet. I've written poetry since middle school and won awards for mine. If you think that's a good metaphor, I got news: it's not.

[@torahammas6722]

As another poly person, this is exactly what was running trough my mind. So, so many missteps and red flags from ops side, by god, op is such a creepy mess.

[@justine8387]

I am poly too. This is not how poly works, this is not how relationships work, this is not how friendships work. Just none of it. This is just so much.

[@justine8387]

Also the pillars metaphor, like she can not hold her own weight or her only value is to be a "monument". No dude her legs hold her up and take her wherever she wants to go, with or without either you or the boyfriend.

[@torahammas6722]

@@justine8387 Yeah, this too exactly. If one insisted on using pillars for a metaphor, a better one would be that the people in the relationship are each a pillar, together holding the relationship, or monument, up. One person should not be the sole thing holding up another person, that's just so unhealthy for everyone. OP has got everything twisted up and clearly doesn't understand how healthy boundaries work. Just so many wrongs. Really hopes he gets is eyes open, leaves the friend and her bf alone, and goes to see a therapist. He clearly needs help.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Mom blames you for her life exploding? Nope it’s 100% on her. You did the right thing, if you don’t want to talk with her then don’t. She deserves everything she gets.

[@pippo17173]

Grandma should be blame for teaching her daughter it's ok to cheat.

[@01SaltyWitch]

Normalize cutting out toxic people in your life, especially if they’re family and refuse to acknowledge their wrongdoing. Lying about Cancer is nothing short of evil

[@kpeggs82]

It’s literally the worst cover up history. The AF is in the same town!! Seriously she wanted to get caught

[@DePhoegonIsle]

Ya know what makes me .. kinda root for her life blowing up? It isn't the cheating (though that doesn't help), it's that she literally abandoned the child for her own benefit. Like, I have to admit I'd find ways to destroy lives of those who would abandon their 'children' for their own personal benefit. [she just made it easy to do]

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

Yyeeeppp!! She can now do what she wants albeit she need to become a Single broke mom and wouldn't enjoyed early retirement on kids

[@sinakirainine1719]

If i took a shot every time OP referred to himself as a pillar, i wouldve got alchohol poisoning

[@ramya.Catlady.30]

To be honest, I’d prefer to either die of alcohol poisoning or black out and forget about the pillar analogy at this point. The cringe is real with that guy.

[@NanMax]

😁

[@TiffWaffles]

I loved how this creep referred to himself as a poet which implies that he's a romantic. Yet, he's nothing more than a creep who thinks that his 'best friend from childhood' is his property and that he can insert himself into her relationships because 'he's the best friend'.

[@ramya.Catlady.30]

@@TiffWaffles This guy is the reason most guys are vary of their partners’ “male best friend “. It’s just way past crazy.

[@TJ-ss1up]

If you are 8 years old

[@Ospyro3em]

Story 1- such a sad, sad story all around. Mum wanted to have her cake and eat it too. Even now she blames OP and not herself for losing her family. What a selfish, disgusting woman. Story 2- please, PLEASE tell me this is a troll post. I was cringing the whole time. If this is true, then there is something seriously wrong with OP. At this point he's a Nice Guy, a stalker, and has generally lost his grip on all reason- and he calls the boyfriend a control freak! And if he utters the pillar analogy one more time I think Mark will explode 🤣🤣🤣

[@growinghigher420]

I had a guy like story 2 who wouldn't leave and once I got into a relationship he texted me at 3AM to whine about me getting into a relationship but not with him and he continued to message me two months it was annoying 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@hi_stranger9156]

@@growinghigher420 so what happened after that ?

[@alejarepinc8866]

Yeah the pillar analogy was painful, if someone tried to use that on me, I don't even know what I'd say to that 😅. I'm sure that girl will be completely fine without him and would do ok without both of them. The only thing crumbling is the dude's ego 😑.

[@growinghigher420]

@@hi_stranger9156 since I had to work early in the morning I just texted we're friends and I don't want a relationship which I had told him multiple times! Then I rolled over and tried going back to sleep then on my lunch break I told my best friend about it we laughed, I blocked him and that was that lol. I did hear later on he was saying how its good Trump is sending all the Mexicans back ( I'm part Mexican btw) honestly it was horrible but I wouldn't change it because it was a big eye opening experience.

[@hi_stranger9156]

@@growinghigher420 WTF,lol

[@Nishanth_mementomori]

Story 1 did everyone just gloss over the fact that the grandmother actually lied abt having CANCER to keep her daughter's affair a secret....who does that and OP should complete go NC with her egg donor Story 2 I refuse to believe this is real....pls tell me this is a troll post No sane person behaves this way wtf...If by some God awful way this is actually real, A and her bf should get a restraining order immediately

[@25Erix]

Bold of you to assume every person is sane but given the amount of true crime documentaries and the slew of mad rulers throughout history and you know that isn't true. This particular story might be fake but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen to someone somewhere well outside your sphere of influence.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@25Erix Good lord. I listen to true crime documentaries to help me fall asleep. I can guarantee this guy isn't even *half* as crazy as some of the creeps who go on to chop up their stalking victims and keep them in the freezer.

[@trinitylane2202]

I think there is something seriously wrong with OP in the last story. His behavior is not normal, he sounds unhinged. He seems obsessive and a borderline stalker. He needs to get some professional help before this escalates into something horrific and someone ends up dead.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

That’s what I was thinking. He’s OBSESSING about something that doesn’t involve him and just because he’s her childhood friend doesn’t mean she is his property.

[@raeishimura]

The comments in story 2 of "Social media loners don't understand real relationships" um.... No, OP. No. YOU don't understand real relationships. You made that abundantly clear

[@KittenUndercover]

There was another mini update to story 2 in the comments. OP has decided that it wasn’t a good idea for him to be a part of their relationship and he let them down gently. The lack of self awareness is absolutely stunning…

[@horsepanther]

He's going to let them down gently! ROTFLMAO! That really, really sounds like a troll.

[@carolroberts4614]

I don't know so much, scarily self-unaware and delusional. I have a horrid feeling that he is Out There Somewhere!

[@KittenUndercover]

@@horsepanther I hope so

[@marshmello3455]

Story 2: "I'm a poet, so I'm really good at metaphors." Is OP a Vogon? Because this story (and the way he tells it) would make more sense if he was.

[@BruinPhD2009]

A shout out to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? My day is made. 😅

[@carolroberts4614]

I think I would rather listen to vogon poetry! Can he be real?

[@impagain]

😂😂😂👌

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Lmaoo

[@TonySamedi]

So you're saying this relationship needs 42 pillars?

[@noneedtoknow07]

Story 2: The freaking hell is wrong with that guy, he can't be that socially inept to see how weird this is. (A) has to be the only person that gives him the time of day to be this hung up on her. I think (A) either is use to this guys weirdness as normal when they made list and then got shown what a normal relationship is actually like after meeting him.

[@lily-zg6io]

how much do you bet he doesn't share the other points on there because they give serial killer vibe

[@mkuti-childress3625]

Or OP has been stalking her the whole time and has grossly misunderstood her attempts to nicely get him to stop. If he wasn’t then, he definitely is now!

[@n7hughesgaming223]

“Getting a restraining order is not a good thing to do against your childhood friend.” It is when said childhood friend is being a massive overbearing creep! Like seriously, this dude seems like he’s one step away from becoming a Yandere.

[@smellyolegoat150]

In story two, it’s really so sad that anyone can be so desperate and disconnected from reality. It makes me a little fearful for the woman and her boyfriend, but I am sad for the delusional headspace that OP is in. He truly does not seem capable of understanding and accepting the truth. I hope reality makes it’s way into his mind before he does something he and everyone else regrets.

[@audreynothepburn7663]

Story 2: Mark, tell us, how many times have you cringed when OP says “pillars”? For me I lost count after the first and made a 🤢 after the second. Also, he really needs to see a therapist ASAP!

[@pippo17173]

Honestly for as much of a nice guy op is, Its the girl's fault for not straight up telling him to fuck off. Like She is having so much sympathy that she just now realize *Wow this is not good for all of us.*

[@locusxe1411]

@@pippo17173 she has a fault in this yes but Op needs serious help because he took it way too far

[@pippo17173]

@@locusxe1411 oh ya he needs help. Just that if you have this nice person acting like this, just go tell the person it's not happening and stand firm immediately.

[@Guitarbarella]

I actually groaned the first time I heard him read pillars..like what woman wants to hear that she is a monument? If I heard that coming out of anyones mouth I’d say “are you calling me fat?” Then watch him cringe Lol

[@Guitarbarella]

@@pippo17173 as a woman I can tell you that sometimes you need to think of creative ways to get rid of creeps because peeps be insane-also that is good advise for men too-crazy women like that exist too. -I’m this day and age you have to also take into factor social media revenge etc

[@growinghigher420]

Each time Mark talks about pillars in story 2 you can hear him die a little inside. Stay strong Mark theincel post is almost over!💖💖

[@carolroberts4614]

I think Mark is a pillar of the community!

[@iasomnium919]

Poor Mark if he ever looks for a house. Realtor: "This is the backyard patio, as you can see it has a lovely pillar structure!" Mark: *war flashbacks*

[@BrokenDiety1]

Ncels just lament about their lack of female approval. This guy is a delusional stalker.

[@gaaraxnaru]

@@BrokenDiety1 Nah, they can whine anout women in general while treating them like objects. Which is what thos guys is doing.

[@BrokenDiety1]

@@gaaraxnaru objectification is feminist hate speech against male sexuality. The same femscum that preach that crap also conveniently ignores w-men's objectification of men as providers. Feminism is a fraud and a hate movement.

[@mandyj2809]

After hearing “pillars” for the umpteenth time I just broke out laughing. I just couldn’t help it. Story 2 is insane, and hopefully not real.

[@NuggetNapper]

I lasted till he was like "I write poetry so I'm good at metaphors"

[@minecraftmum3436]

Story 2 is just so ridiculous. It's either a troll post or OP is unbelievably socially inept. And what is his obsession with pillars? Also, if it is real does he not see that thinking A will 'crumble' without him is really demeaning her? He really needs to get over himself and move into the real world

[@brigidtheirish]

Unfortunately, I can easily believe he's this inept *and* delusional. I watch *way* too many true crime documentaries.

[@Draggonny]

Yeah. I suspect OP has a learning disability such as autism. They're missing any and all social cues and only accepting what they have in black and white, i.e. the written rules for them to attend dates. Their BFF is going to have to sit them down and tell them straight that they don't want a third wheel on their dates. Like others at first I thought they were an over enthusiastic poly with consent issues but when they spelled it out that they just want a friendship at equal weight to their friend's relationship I realised it wasn't a romantic obsession but a platonic one. Sadl, they're still going to get their heart broken when their BFF doesn't live up to the high expectations that they have. Hopefully, that's the worst outcome.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@Draggonny Oh, it gets weirder. Dude posted an update that someone shared on Mark's subreddit. Dude takes obsessive to some creepy new levels.

[@MarionHogan-m5i]

Oh dear heavens, I’m cringing for OP while still hoping he is a troll 😱

[@MrMaro1995]

Story 2: The pillars of OP`s sanity have crumbled.

[@platinumaether8198]

Story two: dude, give up, leave them alone, they’re not gonna budge and they’ll file a restraining order if you do not stop. You’re setting yourself up for failure and heartbreak. Move on dude

[@GBunnyG]

I really really really want to hear the friend and boyfriend's side on that second story. SO MUCH.

[@Streetwisefirst]

Story 2: The PILLARS. I have never laughed so hard watching one of your videos before. Sounds a bit like fatal attractionish. He needs therapy and she needs to cut him out of her life. Break the PILLARS

[@NanMax]

🤣

[@bunnyslippers191]

Gosh, now I feel kind of weird about my guilty pleasure-romance novels. Apparently no one in the comments section is familiar with the word "pillar" being a euphemism for a man's erect penis in a lot of those romance novels. It gets described as an "ivory pillar," a "golden pillar," or an "ebony pillar" depending on the ethnicity of the guy. I think the language is used to keep it from being labeled as "porn," There's a lot about "split peaches," "lotus blossoms," and others euphemisms for the woman's body as well. In my defense I read one of those for the laughs about once or twice a year. They're so formula driven and pretty good for giggles when you're down and bored.

[@mirjamgattiker9757]

O my god I couldn't stop laughing while listening to that pillar story. Its always so fun to listen to your narrations with your comments, it really feels like we're laughing together haha 😂

[@bunnyslippers191]

Yeah, that "pillar" image is just...wow. Considering that "pillar" is often used as a metaphor for a part of a man's body in romance novels OP's use of it is killing me with laughter. The vision that has taken hold of my brain is like XXXX rated!

[@momop1848]

Story 2: What did I just listen to? That OP has their own reality and needs help before someone is hurt. I know someone that's just as out of touch as the OP. He sends me racist and deluded emails every couple of years or so. I hope he either got the help he needs or is back in jail.

[@alma5147]

"We're the pillars holding up the momument (a)". This alone is concerning and sort of obsessive behavior with the girl and her relationship. STOP. CALLING. YOURSELF. A. PILLAR. I feel your pain, Mark.

[@AngharadMac]

That last one, man! If it isn't fake (I kinda feel Mark in this that it has happened to someone at some point), the level of delusion is just astounding. He thought that the comments meant her bf was the creepy one. Wtaf, mah dude? Get. Help. Medication sounds like a great idea.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Medication and possibly one of those "hug yourself jackets" in an institution somewhere in a nice, soft room for a while.

[@meezerluvr]

Story 2: OP needs to go see a psychiatrist and tell this whole story there. I guarantee there will be some time spent in a facility.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Yep, time spent in a facility with serious medication on board and possibly one of those "I love myself" jackets. It's so sad, disturbing, and hilarious all at once.

[@chaosconfusionandcoffee]

I really wanted the update that his "friend" filed a restraining order and he couldn't understand why.....

[@SLTheOneAndAwesome19]

Story 2: I hope to God this is a troll. Not to armchair diagnose, but I'm detecting autism and BPD coming together to make a very unhealthy combination in this OP. The emphasis on "the rules" they established and how they "broke" them, the entitlement and attachment to A... it's just a very messy world view. OP keeps going on about how A needs his support and cannot function without him by her side, but I'm guessing it's the other way round and he's seriously projecting. His inability to comprehend that dates, even out in public, are meant to be intimate and his constant third wheeling is an intrusion. He also doesn't seem to understand that whether or not they agreed to this weird relationship he imagined at first, they retain the right to revoke it whenever they want. His insistence that they agreed, so they can't keep him away is eerily similar to people who don't understand that consent can be revoked. I really, really hope this is a troll. I just can't imagine someone like this really existing and being so insanely oblivious to how deranged they're acting.

[@tiryaclearsong421]

I have a friend who is not quite as bad as this, but this whole post reminds me of him. I'm used to his complete weirdness but he kind of lost his shit when I started dating my fiancee. I didn't get his permission to start dating. He still thinks he's going to basically be in charge of my wedding. We're strongly considering a courthouse wedding to basically box him out. He refuses therapy. Unfortunately he was diagnosed with level 2 autism when he was a toddler, but his parents decided to beat him into being normal instead of pursuing therapy. He has internalized an idea that therapists are just useless cranks from that. He probably has more going on, but how can anyone know? He is slowly slipping down the nice guy rabbit hole and I worry about him, but at this point I am just moving away from where I live and refusing to contact him. I can't deal with his insanity anymore. Tl;dr: These people unfortunately exist. Even if this guy is a troll.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@tiryaclearsong421 I hope you’re planning to seriously cut him out of your life. Autism doesn’t make you act like a controlling asswipe. It can be more difficult to deal with changes, but wanting to be in charge of things that aren’t his business… that’s not autism, that’s called boosting his own ego.

[@brigidtheirish]

Heavy on the BPD rather than the autism, I think. Speaking from my own experience with the disability.

[@SLTheOneAndAwesome19]

@@brigidtheirish Like I said, I see clear signs of both. I have more personal experience working with children with autism than I do experience with people diagnosed with BPD, admittedly.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 Yeah, not all that much experience with BPD, but half my family (myself included) are on the spectrum and it seems much more likely that someone with autism would *avoid* social gatherings like that rather than try to force his way in.

[@e.w9641]

The "oh no's" from Mark in the second story made me laugh out loud. Perfect commentary

[@SorenPenrose]

I'm going to respect her boundaries as soon as she draws them along the lines I've approved.

[@johnf.kennedy7683]

Story 2: This... is so cringe. Please, OP, leave her alone. Please realize you're making her uncomfortable. Please realize you aren't as close to her as you think you are. Please shut up about the pillars.

[@jackiewepps4694]

I'm already laughing at the final story. Now, if only someone would write a poem about this from OP's POV titled "Two Pillars" or something like that, I would laugh even harder. I know it's serious, but OP should seriously learn to take a hint.

[@devchekhov7512]

I've heard of two peas in a pod, but two pillars with a monument???

[@carolroberts4614]

It doesn't really work as a metaphor, does it?

[@Keiji555]

Story 2: I know how the best friend could tell him that he's not allowed to get between her and her bf... Sending a restraining order. He sounds creepy AF.

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 its good op told her dad and family. If all this came out and everyone knew op knew that would've been it.

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

Amd it would backfired her completely

[@MSMW23]

2nd story, this guy will be in the news one day murdering both of them and saying he was the victim because he was left out.

[@bannerturtoise1219]

That second story fucking slayed me when I was doing the dishes. The first story was interesting, but the second was more entertaining.

[@AndyyWithAY]

First OP you weren't stupid. Who would think their mom was having an affair and told such horrible lies?

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Second story: Bro, i'm pretty sure that she will be more than okay without you being her "pillar". You are NOT in a relationship with this girl, you are her friend, a very controlling and creepy friend that is.

[@my3sons757]

When Mark sent his character across the screen, arms up to hold the "pillar" I almost wet myself! Hilarious!😜😝 😂 😉

[@shubham221992]

Story 2: There's no way, dude. This HAS to be a troll.

[@thechosenkingofninjas8153]

Story 1: Tell the dad he needs to know Story 1 update: I hope OP can move through this hardship it must really suck hope they’re doin ok Story 2: wha what I am so confused and creeped out right now Story 2 update : stop the torture please the girlfriend and boyfriend need to get a restraining order against op the damn pillar thing man

[@Barlmoro]

in the end the father of OP will be thankfull that his (hope op is a real child of him) child stands beside him and show him the truth. Op did the right, but hard, thing!!!

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@Barlmoro exactly!

[@daisychain5087]

The part that truly creeps me out the most, is how this stalker, so genuinely, and yet so flippantly, as such an unexamined afterthought, believes that "She Will Crumble, Without Him" (spoken in a disturbed monotone). He sincerely views her as a possession - HIS, fragile, delicate, possession, constantly on the verge of being smashed into oblivion. IMHO, it speaks to a bubbling violence hidden barely beneath the surface, and of his unconscious ruminations and desires to pound her face into the asphalt, oh just a few hundred times - because of the rage he doesn't acknowledge he feels so keenly toward her, for having had the audacity to have rejected his amorous advances, and worse yet, to have had the gall to have "replaced" him with this obviously inferior specimen, her boyfriend... I'm legitimately terrified for the safety and well-being of this poor, harangued, lovely young woman, and her dear paramour.

[@michamocha]

S1: I feel so bad for Op. It sucks that the responsibility of revealing the moms dirty deeds fell onto them and I can't imagine the guilt that's eating at them. The mom is awful and deserve everything that's coming to her. The fact that she originally planned to pass it off as her husband's kid makes it worse. S2: Wtf was this post? 😭 The pillar comments is so degrading. Op sounds like he doesn't even see her as a person, he puts her on some weird pedestal. At this point, he needs to do himself and everyone a favor and move on. I'm screaming at the update. Op is so delusional, I'm praying that this is a troll.

[@HackiePuffs]

OP don’t feel bad you did the right thing by telling the truth. Living together under a lie would’ve been a lot worse for everyone involved.

[@InuMokuba]

Is it just me or did Marks voice change a bit when he started saying "Seek some help.". All inflection gone, Mark became serious on us 😆

[@CodenameTurtle]

It's like how Mark is our monument, and we're the little pillars supporting him. Story 2 makes sense.

[@martinrusev3502]

S1: She cheated and that was awful. But to be knocked up by a guy, who in some situations, could be her son is beyond fucked up. Grandma is awful too because she covered up for the cheater. I hope the dad hires a shark of a lawyer and leaves the mom with nothing. S2: I get some serious nice guy vibes from this guy.

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

It would be nothing IF dad divorces it on the ground of divorce

[@julnjus]

Story 1: the mom is a horrible human and deserves to loose everything. Hopefully the rest of the family can rally around the dad and support him. I hope he gets everything. I can’t believe that grandma was ok with keeping all this secret instead of correcting her daughter. Apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

[@kervinsantos5808]

I guess she must had cheated too

[@julnjus]

@@kervinsantos5808 that would not surprise me.

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@kervinsantos5808 that wouldn't surprise either IF grandma's child wasn't her husbands child

[@kervinsantos5808]

@@cyrilmarasigan7108 it makes you think. That the Mother's must had some other Children unkown. Like an aunt or an uncle out there

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@kervinsantos5808 probably like a long lost aunt or uncle something cause heck! From what I've known old people are very tolerant of cheaters and hate them to hell unless they symphatize on it because they did it something like that.

[@lilithfrigg2108]

As a poly person, the second story made me cringe SO HARD. This is pure entitlement and stalking. It's TERRIFYING.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Oh, gods, Mark "running away from the story with the two pillars and flashing across the screen screaming at that idiotic phrase this guy kept using" nearly killed me. I laughed so hard *I* screamed *and* got terrible muscle cramps in my back and lower ribs I laughed so hard.

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Idk why but the fact the mother went after a family members son in the first story makes it even worse. It sounds like he was a full adult when it started but still, that dynamic just makes it feel 50% more slimy to me

[@Y4ZYAZ]

"The pillars that hold up the monument" Golden

[@luciferandassociates9255]

Story 2: At the start OP said he couldn't be in her life because of his feelings, and she tried to change his mind. Do Not Do This. This is how these types of situations end up weird. I don't even have a good judgement because they all foolish.

[@phoenixwaddell6093]

Right. he was leaving become he didn't want to be around her with his feelings when she had a boyfriend. and instead of respecting OP the girl said, "oh no wait you can be with me as well just not having sex" and they made a whole list of what OP will do with her. you can tell that she did this without talking to the boyfriend and he probably had no clue until the first date where OP was bringing up the relationship, they went home and probably had a fight and he told her to tell OP to fuck off of he was braking up with her. So, she said she would but instead of telling OP this "plan" wasn't going to work she is trying to ghost him.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@phoenixwaddell6093 I have a feeling that isn't exactly (or even close to) how the conversation actually went.

[@luciferandassociates9255]

@@brigidtheirish Sadly we can only work with information given, not what we think it went because frankly I don't think any of this happened.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@luciferandassociates9255 Yeah. Here's hoping.

[@JUMALATION1]

As serious as OP's situation is, that part of OP's mom "just moving across town instead of cross-country without anyone knowing" reminded me of the somewhat tragi-comic song "Klas-Göran" by the Swedish singer Lill-Babs. It takes place over a century ago in Sweden, with a maid giving away almost all her possessions to her love interest so he could emigrate to the US and start a business and then bring her over. She is naïve and refuses to believe she got scammed and waits for years on end for him to write a letter back and tell her to move to the US with him to be his wife. By the end of the song she briefly mentions that people often have seen him in the local village, sometimes daily, since he took all her stuff and "emigrated", but she brushes it off as "evil rumors".

[@ian7064]

Story 1: Calling it now, the mom is gonna end up offing herself to get out of facing the consequences for actions

[@mkuti-childress3625]

I think she’s just going to gaslight the crap out of everyone and try to make her husband and everyone else think it’s his fault!

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

@@mkuti-childress3625 probably but it would be good iF mom became a single broke mother

[@trainerlesseevee478]

The last story is creepy but parts where Mark is frustrated and cringing so hard is just the best 😆

[@CircusoftheMoon]

Can you imagine being the BF on that date in Story 2 listening to this dude? I’m not sure I could keep a straight face or stick with GF. If she wants to be in a relationship with that “poet” so bad then have at it. 🤣 I won’t stand in your way!

[@Mrs_Ella]

Thank you for this video, Mark! The last story was a perfect distraction from the world going to shit.

[@Weirdandwonderfull19]

I've never wanted to slap someone round the head for saying "pillars" or "monument" before. First time for everything I guess 😂. Seriously, how can one guy be so in denial 🤦‍♀️. He can't be a "pillar" for any "monument" when the only person he truly loves is himself 🙄. Hope he either gets help or crushed by an actual pillar 😂 😂 😂.

[@kratkartan1486]

Story 2: OP is crazy. He needs help and a restraining order on him, NOW.

[@TheRaven_200]

Take a drink every time Mark cringes when he says “pillars”

[@dustyrose192]

I'd like to keep my braincells

[@brigidtheirish]

@@dustyrose192 I think I lost a few just listening to the story.

[@TheRaven_200]

@@brigidtheirish Same. 😂

[@ivy4104]

omg, I cant with the pillar, this is just so dam creepy wtf :'D (edit: the editing during that part was immaculate, love it)

[@briant7134]

Story 1: Mom is horrible. Nuff said. Hope OP can let go of the guilt knowing they did the right thing. Story 2: I want to say troll, but I’ve literally seen similarly self-centered and delusional behavior. Seconding what Mark said; if this is you, get help.

[@kitmcneil2115]

Mark I want you to know we all really love and appreciate how often you upload and the quality of your content!! You put so much love and effort into every single video. But make sure you're staying happy and healthy! If you ever feel burnout or exhaustion setting in PLEASE take a break. I'm sure the whole waffle gang would understand my man. Stay hydrated bb 😘

[@TiffWaffles]

Can we just talk about grandma in the first story who lied about having cancer and covering up her daughter's affair and affair baby?

[@BraveryWing26]

That Mark face in the corner during 2nd OP's nonsense was SO HILARIOUS.

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

1- Holly bananas I feel so sad for that poor baby, the father, OP and her siblings.

[@jennywhite2462]

Story 1. Wow. That is some craziness. OPs Dad had ever right to know. I just can't imagine putting my kid in such a terrible position.

[@nerdygirl1018]

Not being able to see his wife for so many months is actually understandable to me. When my grandpa got cancer and my grandma couldn't do anything to take care of herself my mom moved across state to take care of them. Between COVID and my dad's work schedule they didn't see each other for about 7 months until my grandpa was on his deathbed. Obviously my mom had no affair or anything just saying in some circumstances it's very possible that they didn't see each other

[@kervinsantos5808]

To me they thought quarantine was a blessing in disguise for them. They must had told them she couldnt come back. In fear ln getting sick

[@AleksandarBradaric]

Story 2: This is a whole level of....DAMN....and so oblivious...as one wise man said "Stop it. Get some help"

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

STORY 2:…….OP’s giving me creep vibes……tf….. And honestly kind of entitled considering he keeps threatening to no longer be friends with this girl if he can’t be romantically involved with her in some shape or form. The reality is if this poly relationship doesn’t work out and they just want to be monogamous, OP is not going to be seen as important as the boyfriend. It seems like OP’s wanting to assert himself where he’s not wanted. Stop with the weird architectural talk….. that’s cringe…. About the update, OP is really giving off nice guy vibes constantly going “oh her boyfriend is controlling her and keeping her away from me whoa is me“. Dude you are forcing yourself into the relationship having this delusional throuple so you can fulfill your romantic feelings towards a girl that just doesn’t feel the same way about you. Sure you’re her “best friend“ but that doesn’t mean you need to third wheel their dates. It does not matter that you two were childhood friends, that you were there for her through thick and thin, you are coming off as an obsessive creepy entitled freak that can’t get over the fact she does not want to be your girlfriend! And constantly threatening to no longer be her friend because you’re not getting your way is controlling. Opie is constantly complaining about how the boyfriend is controlling yet he can’t sleep pulls the cord I’m not gonna be your friend anymore because I’m in love with you and you won’t respect my emotions and good type of BS to hold her hostage in this three-way relationship so he can get what he wants. She’s only going along with this polyamorous crap because she doesn’t want to lose her friend who keeps threatening to pull that card if he doesn’t get his way. Good God the mental gymnastics OP is playing to make it seem like he’s completely harmless, pure delusion. The whole I write pretty so I’m good at metaphors“…… Honestly what really threw me for a loop was him chastising the girl for not studying on the day she was hanging out with her boyfriend. Like dude WTF? This has to be a troll. I have read a lot of nice guy/neck beard/Incel stories close to this, but come on there is no way OP is that delusional and entitled to have his feelings reciprocated by the object of his affection….

[@-mokerly-5984]

I adore you, Mark. Truly, you are the pillar holding up this community.

[@bellaavalos2646]

Amazing timing ! Just about to start cooking ♥️

[@pyronexus1]

Sounds like Mark needed 2 pillars to prop him up to finish story 2 and the update. Stay strong mark! Don't let the pillars crumble!

[@prince_sylex]

Waiting at the trainstation during my Standby. Love listening to you Mark and best wishes!

[@silmarpinheiro3455]

Story 1. The fact that she abandoned the baby is the best thing that can happen to the baby because having such mother is much worse than not having her. The baby is better not having such horrible person involved.

[@Mewse1203]

Be kind, be safe and take care of yourself. Have a great day. About to go help my visiting mom. Have a great day all!

[@tkb5726]

I had to listen to story 2 twice because I thought I misheard something. My jaw dropped lower with every sentence. Also I don't know howw you read that, Mark. I felt like my brain stalled several times just listening to you read it. If this is a troll I love it. The possible ability of it being real, the repetition of the word pillars, the fact they keep doubling down. Oh man I hope it is a troll

[@jennywhite2462]

Story 2 OP needs some very intense therapy. Maybe a PFA or restraining order. If this person was in my life I would go no contact. I hope for the sake of humanity they are a troll.

[@brigidtheirish]

Intense therapy and a padded cell.

[@oliviarose5030]

Story #2: This guy takes obsessive best friend on a whole new level. He demands having an active role in the relationship, which is flat out creepy. His friend was probably desperate not to lose her best friend, and then the boyfriend was easily able to talk some sense into her, and showed her how batshit crazy this all was. OP thinks boyfriend is being controlling, when OP makes a list of his requirements as best friend. This is beyond creepy. He has no respect for boundaries that must be in place whenever friends enter relationships, and taking that to a whole new level.

[@UzumakiDonnoHinata]

Oh hi, Mark! Hope you and Poppy are well. Hi Waffle Gang, hope you're ALL well! I just got home from weekly lunch with Gramps. Got a photo from he thinks 1915. Gonna try to restore the glass plate it's bonded to. Looks like India ink painted on the back to frame the photo. Wish me luck! Much love!

[@vickilouise3307]

Story 2- dude is definitely a “NICE GUY”. He’s controlling, creepy and SEVERELY delusional. His therapist would end up needing a therapist.

[@jacksongreen1319]

Let's gooo Waffles!!

[@bunnyslippers191]

The mother in story 1 was only gone for 6 months, supposedly at her mothers halfway across the country from her husband and family. It's quite possible for that much time to go by without seeing her husband, especially if he works and the family doesn't have money to blow on airline tickets. Air fares are expensive, too expensive for a lot of families.

[@FriedaMMartin]

The girl is story 2 is absolutely awful. She wants all the advantages of OP without consequences. And yes, it is horrible for her boyfriend, they did not push him into consideration at all. The original rule meeting had no input from the bf at all. Both OP and the girl are toxic Edit: after update the OP is soooo toxic. Just more and more obsessive.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

A thing to keep in mind is it's written from OPs perspective and he doesn't seem to be the most sane narrator Especially with the 'eventually she said yes' sounds like a ton of pressure was added

[@Detector1977]

last story: one step from being a stalker and refuses to aknowledge it....

[@TsukiKageTora]

I got creep factors for 2nd story. The dude was like pressuring his “friend” into a relationship with him despite her not having feeling for him let alone in a relationship. She agreed “eventually” let’s me he didn’t take no for an answer and pressured her until she agreed. This guy needs therapy and she needs a restraining order He sounds like he is obsessed creep that needs to have what they are obsessed with on a monument to be worshipped rather than… truly listened to

[@Silence-1170]

Hi all wishing all of you a super Sunday! Just woke up from a nap to find this video. Wishing you all well!

[@KittyWillCutYou]

I was chanting "please say sike" all through story 2. They need therapy real bad. Real, real, bad. That unhealthy attachment is gonna spiral.

[@notovny]

Story 2: Pillar Man needs to Awaken to his own creepiness. 10:30 "A said she showed her BF the list and he seemed fine about it." Yeah, if you didn't _talk_ to the boyfriend about the list directly, and he didn't say he was fine with it, then he's probably not fine with it, if he even saw it. Also OP seems to have pry-barred himself into the relationship, and somehow negotiated veto power on their dates?! A has issues. OP has _volumes._ OP is going to lose his relationship with A, and it's probably going to happen before she ditches her boyfriend. 18:15 Yeah, that "best man" offer is probably about a decade old, and should be considered rescinded.

[@rahulmodi8706]

Story 2: you know OP is socially awkward and not the best looking. He’s clinging to her so much.