My Narcissistic MIL Tried To Ruin My Rehearsal Dinner By Going Behind My Back r/Relationships

[@sarahjaneuldricks6729]

I work nightshift at an assisted living center and sometimes the residents who can't sleep will come out while I'm listening to youtube. One of the sweetest little old ladies was listening to the MIL story and just calmly said "what a stupid bitch" before sipping coffee and listening more.

[@Markee]

I love her for that omg

[@sarahjaneuldricks6729]

​@@Markee She told me to say "thank you"

[@kateemma22]

Make sure she knows that strangers on the internet love her.

[@DominosAndHearts]

Reading that made my day 😂😂

[@terramarini6880]

@@DominosAndHearts I snort laughed! 😂

[@geekfreak315]

Story 2: that one commenter that wanted to paint OP as an evil stepmother must feel really fucking stupid after the updates. Yall wanna blame the woman who is single-handedly keeping this family together? The delusion is strong with that one 😂

[@jestersreign7530]

Let's be honest after the updates disprove whatever they said. They most likely just moved on to another post to say more about s*** crazy stuff they never admit that they were wrong

[@ZombieSazza]

God story 2 is so messy and depressing, OP is understandably concerned about her disabled kids, her stepdaughter is a psychotic bully, her husband wants to help his daughter but it would risk his families safety and happiness. Then it all went tits up, complete mess, absolute insanity, and it’ll be one hell of a court fight to get custody or partial custody now that there’s proof he isn’t the biological father. God I feel for them so much, they sound like kind people and they’ve been thrown in the deep end.

[@AlvarodeAlmeidaSantos]

I don't think getting parcial custody would be that hard on that alone. There's a well established history that he is the parent in a social context. In Brasil it would be paternidade socio afetiva.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@AlvarodeAlmeidaSantos Sounds like the US, so it's state to state. Some states would absolutely grant him rights, other would be a fight.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

None of this would be happening if he would've gotten a paternity test in the first place. This girl is bad news and a danger to his actual children. He's allowing his children to be abused, and possibly risking their lives, just so he can play daddy to someone else's kid. OP needs to put her foot down and issue an ultimatum: he can either have her and their boys in his life, or this girl, but not both. If he chooses the girl, he chooses an uncontested divorce from OP and supervised visits in a neutral location.

[@Dira7411]

@@MaryTheresa1986THIS!!! It’s like dude you got a clean break from this random devil child abusing your bio kids take it and run. The fact that OP is trying to stand with him on still getting custody of this child is insane to me

[@DaBaseBallZ]

Story 1:And why are y'all still in contact with her?

[@colleens1107]

A very excellent question

[@teddychu1177]

@@colleens1107 Inheritence? Or the boy mom's apron strings...

[@johnbradbury8610]

Op is a dumbass for marrying a guy that allows his mother to disrespect her.

[@HeoBaby24]

simple she fuckin 76 years old

[@BigRed1595044]

Narcissistic people are very good at manipulating their children into keeping them in their lives. She is probably very good at guilt tripping and has a bunch of flying monkeys handy to assist with that. They are also notorious when it comes to revenge for daring to cut them out and will go on smear campaigns to ruin their kids’ reputation and relationships.

[@julias2855]

I would do a paternity test for my husband. Only because he feels so betrayed and lost this would help hold on to “facts”. It would give him a sense of security. It’s less about the wife and more about this husband’s struggles. No one is wrong or right, but the husband is struggling more right now.

[@SingingMermaid4]

I said I would have immediately because that "Ex" might try to pull some other shadey crap. You can't trust them.

[@FancySpicyTuna]

Right?! Like sure, you never cheated on him. But he just found out a child people swore up and down was his from day one WASN’T. A massive part of his identity has been ripped from him. This is not a “did you cheat on me” moment, this is a “I need something real and tangible because people I trust have lied.” Moment. OP2 Put your ego aside for a moment to give your husband a rock to hold onto, your promising and swearing and saying is not enough until his entire sense of self as a father stops crumbling.

[@jakeand9020]

Given the circumstances I can only think of one reason for her attitude on paternity testing her kids. It screams at least one isn't his. I get being offended and feeling it's an accusation under normal circumstances, these are not normal circumstances and having that solid reassurance after his entire world for the last twelve years got flipped on its head would do wonders to keep him grounded. For someone claiming she's upset she "can't do anything to help" him, she's pretty adamant about not doing the one thing she could, unless it would only make his situation worse.

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Yep. Dude has his world being shaken and shattered, uncertain of what to trust. And he is struggling for some stability to hold on too. But OP is refusing that because it's hurtful too her. I don't think she's invalid for her feelings, but her being willing to kill her marriage over it kinda says a bit.

[@DragonflyandTheWolf]

If I were OP, I'd have found the cheapest Pizza place that delivers and gotten a pizza delivered to MIL's place with a note that says, "Life hack, you don't need to hijack a rehearsal dinner to have pizza. You can just order it."

[@FoxTenson]

Go to a dollar store and get the cheapest nastiest dollar pizza you can find. Cheaper, and better impact!

[@Mia-dt3gl]

OP’s husband in Story 2 was just an ATM and babysitter to his ex. That sucks.

[@immapotato1]

hard to say especially after the edit. that kid is completely fucked in the head. we know OP and her husband tried therapy but I have a feeling the reason that didn't work might be related to her mom

[@jakeand9020]

Not sure he's not the same for his current wife either. Her absolute refusal to paternity test HER kids, given the circumstances, strongly suggests at least one isn't his either.

[@FoxTenson]

@@jakeand9020 No it does not, NOT at all. She HAS said she would IF the husband went to couple's therapy to get help. This in no way shape or form screams she cheated FFS.

[@TheVeggiekat]

Plus there was a world of difference from the get go on husband’s relationship with his wife and SD’s mom. With his wife they went into it with the goal of building a relationship and life together. They have been together for ten years. Ten years where she also works so no, he is not an ATM. Guys who want to claim they’re an ATM better be making bank so that she does not also have to work. With the SD’s mom it was a casual FWB relationship. That is a case where the guy should have 100% asked for a paternity test. He did not consider SD’s mom someone who he should have been faithful to so why did he think she was 100% faithful to him. That was his dumbass ego thinking he was all that and with his “beer goggles” remark he didn’t think she could get anyone else. He was an idiot. If I were OP, I’d think the universe was giving her an opportunity to take her kids and run. Sounds like she has a supportive family who has had to take her and her kids in on weekends. Why would you want to stay in a situation where you have to leave your home to keep your kids safe and now husband is taking out his stupidity on you?

[@ladydamiana6841]

@@FoxTenson Quite right. The husband is making OP the whipping boy for his ex---just about literally. And all because he can't be arsed to wear a condom, so he knocked up two women and is having to deal with the outcome.

[@michamocha]

S2: It's wild how some people were trying to paint Op as the bad guy when all she was doing was protecting her sons lol. But jfc, i feel so bad for the husband. He really was used by his ex fwb.

[@AZUREPHOENIX777]

18:18 Ngl I don't feel that the brother should've been punished for that. I don't give a fuck if some people think "violence is never the answer", it's absolutely warranted after saying something that fucking horrible.

[@MsMookalate]

Agreed. I would've just said a timeout explained and have dad actually punished her. While in timeout, my child would've had a nice snack and some time alone with a book.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Exactly. Someone has to defend the youngest child since none of the adults will. It's wild to me how abuse isn't punished, but lashing out against the abuse is. OP and her husband are on their way to their oldest son going no contact once he's of age.

[@aduckofsomesort]

If you lay hands on someone you have to expect that someone will lay hands on you.

[@GaskyChan]

I feel sorry for the guy but a lot of heartache would probably been avoided with a paternity test and proper parental agreement back then.

[@tazhienunurbusinezz1703]

It's kind of crazy cuz in my state if the dad was never married to the mom she can petition the state for child support & they'll go after the dad for that. You'd think that it would make sense to sort visitation at the same time but nope. The dad has to hire an attorney & petition for visitation rights. I was floored when we were told this by an attorney when my late husband was taken to court by the State. He had been paying her the whole time but the state decided he wasn't paying enough. They didn't factor in that he had allowed her to take $80,000 in furniture, one of the cars that he had purchased but transferred to her & homewares so she was getting less in support to pay off the loan. The state didn't care & ordered him to pay back support bit he got no visitation. My ex & I went through the same process in the neighboring state as that's where I went to college. The hearing set up child support & "reasonable" visitation. If we couldn't work something out then he could take me back to court to set up a firm schedule but they at least acknowledged that he had rights to see the kid he was financially responsible for. There is no such provision in the state I moved to after college which I always found wild.

[@brittalex42]

Unfortunately it's just in male's interests to get paternity tests (early on). The government cares about not having to pay to support the mother or child above all else. I offered my husband to test our child for his peace of mind because I honestly think at this point it should be the norm for men.

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Yep. I feel bad for them, but they (mainly he) waited too long to start taking things seriously from a legal sense.

[@wyvern723]

Shoving a child out of his wheelchair, pinching him hard enough to bruise, slapping him and saying those horrible things is not normal sibling behavior. Stepdaughter is a bully. I do not blame OP being concerned about SD living with them full time. What a shit show. Biomom sounds like a real piece of work. I would be surprised if she wasn't encouraging her daughter's bullying behavior.

[@ZombieSazza]

>partner who tells his mother he won’t bend over backwards with her BS >monster-in-law tells the BRIDE she’s an “inconvenience” >calls the bride SCREAMING?!? >goes behind MIL back to contact everyone individually to check they’re okay with the restaurant choice >MIL tries demanding “we get pizza” like a literal CHILD >just straight up SCREAMS >MIL is now uninvited from the rehearsal dinner LMAOOOOO Yeah time to ban her from the wedding entirely, she’s no longer invited, tell everyone else she’s uninvited, get security. She’s INSANE and attempting to steamroll people who have shiny spines and is upset she can’t get her own way, to the point of having a literal tantrum LMAO!

[@Kay-Rayzie]

Ikr! A 76 year old toddler! Therapy couldn't even fix that! So refreshing that everyone involved is an adult and refuses to indulge her like we usually hear about.

[@heffa3821]

@@Kay-Rayzie CHILE I'M LIVING IT TEMPORARILY due to situation i was in before as a caregiver for 20+ yr where gma went I went. Unfortunately, that meant my mom messed up finances and kept bringing 'men' in too fast instead of learnin to live alone while we all were working to get things in order like why always bring them to our place. Now we're here and he literally throws a fit bc he don't want to get off his ass to work a part time job to earn more money for an example or has a shit fit about 'birds shitting on the car' when no one was using it.. I have two legs and a bus pass. I dont' kiss ass and i'd let him burn to death than offering an ounce of spit if that was all that was needed to put the fire off. THe move was messy as we were lied to altogether so now that i'm getting back on track with my two part times (2nd starting in october) i'll be out of debt soon next year and we'll be out here in 2026. I also told my mom, separate floors or separate bills besides obvious internet of my own because I'll have MY OWN space where only who I allow in will be allowed.

[@Kay-Rayzie]

@@heffa3821 Hang in there mate. You've got this!

[@marilynbartlett1850]

wondering if MIL has dementia

[@Kay-Rayzie]

@@marilynbartlett1850 Although I'm not qualified to diagnose anyone, I honestly wondered that too. But if this behaviour tracks for her historically, it's most likely a personality disorder.

[@Kay-Rayzie]

It's always awful to hear about men who are lied to about paternity. It's so evil to do to both the child and the 'father'. I've always wondered why these poor guys can't sue the mothers. They're expected to just deal with it, and in some cases still financially reward the mother. Make it make sense! I can't even imagine doing that to someone. EDIT: Only deleted the two adjectives that I described the mothers that do this kind of thing. Apparently it hit too close to home for someone and they didn't like being described that way. Sorry if my opinion offended anybody. Thanks for reporting me! I'll do better from now on 😁

[@MsMookalate]

Nah, in this case, it was his fault for not getting a paternity test on that hell spawn since they were just cutty buddies. I can see your pov if they were in a relationship, but they never was. So this was on him for not being responsible to check on his behalf.

[@jmonique6409]

I don't know in this case if the ex lied on purpose or if she truly believed he was the father, but they both should have gotten a test after the child was born or before. They were both just playing it by ear, which the husband seems to have a habit of doing since he was initially for his daughter moving in with no real planning on how that would work.

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

​@@MsMookalateOne being ignorant should not overrule the other being manipulative.

[@LovesGaming37]

The stepdaughter is insane. She's not someone you want around the young boys. She wouldn't even be allowed in the house for visitations. The husband would need to get an apartment for those visits

[@livingnightmare969]

I scrolled down to comment this!

[@carolynehrensberger2162]

Story 1-I’m 76 and this is bizarre unacceptable behaviour. Needs psych evaluation and probably meds. None of my family,friends,or acquaintances would behave like this. She would be excluded from social events.

[@vanguardangel6912]

Absolutely. Thank you for being sane! Big internet hugs to you!

[@LovesGaming37]

He should have had the child tested. They weren't in a relationship. They weren't exclusive. So he was a fool to not get her tested.

[@Juliet-y3g]

That is exactly what i thought. Why would he assume he was the only guy the bartender fwb was sleeping with?

[@MsMookalate]

That part. Then, he has to take his stupidity out on his wife and bio kids. Like if they didn't go through enough hell with the cutty buddy's hell spawn.

[@jmonique6409]

I feel this is why is lashing out at everyone else. He knows he messed up and was being dumb

[@jakeand9020]

Yes he's being dumb, and compounding it by not getting the paternity test on her kids.

[@FlamesAndShadows]

Wife agreed to a paternity test, but set up a warning boundary to not pursue it in a way that will build resentment, lifelong hurt she'd have to swallow, and loss of love and trust on her side. Or as she said, he can proceed being an asshat and get his piece of mind at the expense of hers, along with 3 envelopes. The how you ask makes all the difference. On the flip side, if you do everything without a hint of manipulation, gotcha, you owe mes or guilty until proven innocent persecussion, being as nice and vulnerable as you can instead, and baby momma still flips out - then its a good indicator that she might be guilty. Also would love an infidelity for men test, being created

[@SingingMermaid4]

Story 2: So, I would have done the paternity test, but immediately after finding out. Not while my husband is spiraling. And not for his peace of mind, but in the potential event of the ATM trying to pull some shenanigans. She willing lied and decieved a man for over a decade, I cannot think what else she might try to pull. Having the proof of his other children being his may stop that behavior. Or not. But when dealing with evil manipulators, you don't know what to expect.

[@ajzephyros7454]

Yes Asses are being bitten. I liked that phrase ETA: Oof I didn't see THAT coming, poor guy, but that spiraling is dangerous

[@Frazzled_Chameleon]

I'm absolutely dying picturing MIL rage-screaming into her smartphone, tearing at her hair from being haunted by the lack of pizza. 😂😂😂

[@Don-Angel]

I pictured her using a fancy old landline lol

[@jmonique6409]

The husband is foolish. They weren't in a casual relationship, there was never a formal paternity test he, his name wasn't on the birth certificate (wish means he never signed or saw his own daughters birth certificate in all that time), and finally never had a formal custody agreement. All of this should have been done when he learned his (situationship) was pregnant. 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@DaBaseBallZ]

Story 2:She's a bully,Who in the world allows a bully to their kids in their own house? Either she stays in her mom's or she fixes her attitude Updates:Wow,That was a plot twist and a half,But hey,Now you don't have to deal with her or her mom anymore

[@jakeand9020]

And maybe the husband when he gets his head out of his butt and actually gets those paternity tests done.

[@DaBaseBallZ]

@jakeand9020 Honestly,I see no valid reason not to do them (As long as he pays for the tests with his own money)

[@bryn1063]

Well not really. Blood or not. Her husband sees her as his daughter. Which makes sense because he's been treating her like it this whole time..

[@rora9553]

Gluten free bride: The offenders who feed people their allergy are not always sorry afterwards. Remember the story where the grandma put OP in a coma by feeding him a cashew protein bar? And when he came home, she said he was faking it. Then she even double down by dumping an entire jar of mixed nuts in his birthday cake after?

[@christinacartter9784]

Wasn't that the mother? The Aunt was making the cake and felt so bad when it was discovered, and Mom's boyfriend left because of her actions?

[@rora9553]

@@christinacartter9784 Ah yes, I remembered the details incorrectly, than you. These stories all start to blend together after a while.

[@colleens1107]

Story two: holy. Fuck. And that’s all I have to say about that twist. And I do hope for all of the children’s sake that husband goes to therapy IMMEDIATELY

[@TalaPedro]

I'm on board of mandatory testing as you leave the hospital with both parents. To confirm no one is abducting or no accidental baby switch, with parental confirmation as a bonus.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

Agreed. Make that shit mandatory.

[@invisigoth510]

Story one: never eat anything this woman gives you because she’s definitely going to poison you

[@thatonearoace]

I think the screaming was because someone threw holy water at her and she burst into flames

[@taylorslade961]

Story 1: Can the fiance get some kind of evaluation for his mother? This seems like it requires doctors and medication.

[@Damaaskrose]

I have to say that when the OP said the MIL just screamed I did wonder if there was a neurological/mental health problem

[@taylorslade961]

@Damaaskrose That's where it started for me too! My grandmother had dementia and my mind immediately went there.

[@helianabanes4875]

Story 2: this is a horrible revelation, but jebus Christos hubby, get your shiz together. Violent outbursts are OK for ZERO reasons. He really needs to stop acting like a child before he loses everything, including his other children. Also, I am betting Bio mom knew the whole time.

[@kateemma22]

MIL is story 1 has ‘coconut oil in the hair’ energy. OP’s kids would not be safe around her.

[@jennifersilves4195]

That makes no sense. Very rude.

[@jmonique6409]

​@@jennifersilves4195What makes no sense? That a MIL who does not take allergies seriously, would some day put a future grandchild in jeopardy because of said belief/ narcissism.

[@LovesGaming37]

Story two: hell no. Afraid single dads at all prices

[@rubymeaddle]

OP the fact he isn't NC with his mom should be a red flag

[@haleylampley1056]

Nah. I wouldn’t go that far. I mean. I went NC with my monster. But going NC is one of those things that’s easier said than done. He’s standing up for his wife, which tells me he’ll also stand up for his kids. He’ll either hit his breaking point or she’ll sort her shit out.

[@PowerStruggle555]

At the time she got married, my younger sister was vegan. She lives in a very hippy town with a lot of vegan places. Now we’re all meat loving people but it was her wedding, so everything was vegan friendly. Reception had two buffets. One vegan and one none. Where guests were to allowed to eat from whichever they wanted (most who weren’t vegan did try from both) Even besides wedding we accounted her diet, made sure restaurant had options and she had options at family functions. Even at weddings because that’s what a good person does But since she had first kid she stopped being vegan (did so baby would get nutrients but never went back)

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

honestly... if SD is going to live with you, husband should over ride biomom (who is probably feeding into her daughter's behavior) wishes. Stepmom must be a parent to this child if they are to bring peace.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

Hold up. I heard the part where the son was immediately disciplined, but NOTHING about the stepdaughter being punished for assaulting a disabled small child. WTF!!!! Yeah, there's no way in hell I'd allow that little monster around a vulnerable child, much less live in the same house. And you have no say in or allowed to discipline her? That's a recipe for disaster. She literally said he's not a person and went into detail about torture on him. Nope. Nope. Nope.

[@IanFox-k7h]

I am sorry, I would not have disciplined my son for standing up for his sibling when something so disgusting was said

[@tennesseedogpack]

Story two: you failed your sim by punishing him for physically defending his brother

[@robertx8020]

I disagree They told him he did good but should not have used violence. That is a lesson not failing.

[@LivRogers-tw6oe]

She did punish him in an appropriate way. You finding a problem with the older brother defending his disabled brother from his violent step sister is a problem itself.

[@FlamesAndShadows]

I don't disagree. His priveledges were being rewoked. I would maybe keep the praise for defending his brother (bully victims) and have a talk about when physical violence and what amounts are appropriate. Also in these cases of not being allowed to say anything to the other kid, or parent them in any way, sometimes there are horrific situations being created where the abuser comes off with much lighter or no consequences, leading to resentment or an unintended lesson that heroics, and impulses to do good and right wrongs, will be unjustly punised and kid will start blocking or atrophy this part of themselves. While the bully grow in confidence, entitlement, severity of crimes straight into adulthood

[@rhiannoncarney9380]

Story 2: I know that I am going to get crap for this but I am going with NTA. Step-mom is CLEARLY trying to do what's best for EVERYONE!! If step-daughter regularly gets into physical altercations with her little brother and ACTIVELY BULLIES a special needs child barely out diapers then her being there is NOT a good idea!!

[@sophdog2564]

Almost wonder if the MIL has dementia with the incoherent screaming

[@mrjohnthedestroyer]

story2 if the daughter is having trouble at both houses & needs therapy & bullies then no. Not living there. Not the bio Dad? Nasty women don't even know who the father is or wanted him for money. Sue for custody OR that money back. Poor wife is in a world of hurt & none of that is her doing

[@helenegrootenboersecondant5474]

Story 2: I would’ve immediately have a paternity test done, just to avoid the imo inevitable question from my husband. That is an easy step, because I would know these kids are his, but he will be questioning everything. It would not be my fault, but he believed his first wive too

[@stephjovi]

Exactly. She's hiding something or is extremely proud but I don't like it. She can do a test than day see the kids are yours do you now understand we need counselling? But as it is it's more important to figure out if the other kids are his and who the daughters real dad is.

[@jakeand9020]

With her attitude about it he's better off getting the divorce even if, by some miracle, both kids turn out to be his.

[@catsncrows]

S1 No they aren't sorry after the fact. They want to appear sorry. Appearances are everything and when it starts to become evident that public opinion is against them they'll choke up a fology (fake apology)

[@hanoh2904]

I don't think pizza is considered a wedding rehearsal dinner! If op chose a restaurant that serves gluten free and regular food she can eat what she wants

[@kevinclark495]

story 1, omg keeo a look out for more updates, we need to find out what happened at thr wedding, this is too good 😂😂

[@puppetmasterey]

At this point I wouldn't put it past MIL to actually have a heart attack to ruin the wedding, after making a scene for throwing wine on the bride.

[@derricksmith3211]

When you lose phone privileges that doesn't include talking to your dad. I can't believe you just accepted that as an answer.

[@BriannaWeldon]

OP is being irrational about the meaning of her unstable husband’s irrational request for paternity. He’s obviously not okay, so yeah, the foundation of their marriage is shoddy right now. It has nothing to do with her.

[@KE-hr4sb]

S2: "A paternity test doesn't cost you anything, why not just put his mind at ease?" Because it costs her self-respect. I don't care how many other women do it, I will not be crucified for their crimes. If he doesn't want me putting my past trauma from my ex on him, he doesn't get to project his ex's paternity fraud onto me. "Men are the only ones that don't know the baby is theirs!" Not true, actually. I read a post recently where best friend was undergoing IVF to be OP's surrogate. Best friend and hubby decided to do it the old-fashioned way, and the baby OP has been raising has no biological link to her. Also, women aren't the only ones who can cheat, they're just the only ones who leave a trail (carrying a baby that can be tested). If he doesn't trust that she hasn't been cheating, she has no reason to trust that HE hasn't. Rant over. =P

[@niharikamaurya6583]

Okay but one thing I learned from these reddit stories is don't get married to divorced people/ people who have children Can't believe these people haven't learned that like it's so much drama nd then they get stocked seeing the drama like story 2 is so messedup

[@kateemma22]

At least not until all the children are adults.

[@jmonique6409]

​ Don't get in a relationship/married to people with children period. Especially if you are not prepared to be a part of that lifestyle. Even if their kids are adults, there are things like grandkids, unexpected expenses, the topic of visits, or if one or more of the children want to move back in due to a crisis. People are parents for the rest of their lives even with the ones that are fully independent.

[@betheguy_posts]

Never again will I ever underestimate your warnings about how wild a story gets. Had to start running around my kitchen and living room while shouting incoherently after you read the title of the update post for story 2.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Story 2: I would take my sons and move out ASAP and file for divorce before allowing that demon into my house. If OP isn't allowed to be a part of stepdaughter's life, she isn't allowed on OP'S house.

[@jbgra2566]

S2: Yup, definitely wasn't expecting _that_ update

[@SongBird101]

Story 2: Markee, as soon as you said “this isn’t going where you think it is” I knew the kid wasn’t his. I had a feeling when OP was talking about how the husband and ex got together. This is so unbelievably messy

[@rynieryarom4277]

9:22 these kind of people live the longest. Just out of spite

[@grangerweasley]

I deal with older people with “incoherent rage” at the pharmacy I work at daily. It’s troubling how many of them act like overgrown toddlers for things outside our control

[@Damaaskrose]

"hahaha - don't laugh - hahaha - it's not funny hahaha" .... Markee 🤨

[@aduckofsomesort]

Celiac is not a “food sensitivity“ it’s an autoimmune condition that can cause serious damage to your muscles and nerves.

[@HodajuciParadoks]

No one ever eat pizza for a wedding...plus there is gluten free pizza.... That woman - MIL is just insane

[@katiecakesl4691]

Story 2: husband is gonna need therapy. also husband is going to need to see a lawyer about the paternity fraud.

[@ObsidianFaux]

“You need to grab an adult no fighting” The adults failed in the brothers eye, so he had to step up “He needs to step up and be there for his kids” 🙄 It’s like people don’t care that he’s going through a lot of mental crap that he’s not seeing right anymore, the sons have their mother but the husband found out the kid isn’t his and that’s gonna inflict some kind of trauma

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Hey Markee!!! Have a great week ahead 👍👋🤗

[@Markee]

You too!!

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

@@Markee 👋🤗

[@EluneAnzu]

Story 1: The screaming was her going super karen, like a super sayian but instead of ultra instinct/ultra ego it's ultra entitlement

[@nixiemartian4658]

No paternity test and no formal cutsody agreement is insane 💀 check yourself before you wreck yourself that's like the first thing you do

[@autumnjey4683]

i can't feel too bad for the husband in story 2 honestly. i couldn't imagine NOT going through the courts if a FWB got pregnant. why would he think he's the only one she's sleeping with? what's the point of NOT going through the courts for custody agreements?

[@annem7806]

You, dad, brat & counselor meet. Go over problems at her house and your. Come up w a list of rules & expectations. No fast answers. Then meet w the Mom. Give her a list too. I don't think she is safe in your home. Step needs to stay w her Mom. Bio Mom needs to pay support. That house needs to be investigated. SUE HER. DRAG HER THRU THE MUD. GET $$$ BACK.

[@annem7806]

He should be fighting w that lying bish. Take her to court.

[@annem7806]

Child Protection Services. County office or state capitol office.

[@KonekoPurrrfection]

MIL can have pizza... AT HOME BECAUSE SHE SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE WEDDING.....full stop

[@chickensandwich8808]

story 2 is absolutely a tough story, but I have to admit, OP's framing and portrayal really make me uneasy. She just comes off a little petty, like adding in the detail about how her husband needed "beer goggles" to boink his former FWB. I know it seems minor, but jabs like that come off in ways that, well... give me the ick. That said she is within her rights to want to protect her children. It just sucks because realistically SD SHOULD also be her child because she married her father, but because BioMom is admittedly also petty and weird, there is a barrier in place to keep OP from bonding and disciplining in meaningful ways. ETA: Nvm pettiness is absolutely waranted, even retroactively after hearing that update. the BioMom is absolutely garbage for doing what she did, when she knew there could be a possibility the child wasnt OP's husband. I feel for OP's husband, but that guy needs to slap himself in the face and pull himself together. Therapy isn't fun in this instance but is necessary whether it's finding a professional(which should be done anyway) as well as hobbies and activities that help to calm the mind.

[@only1one1me]

“Don’t laugh, it’s not funny.” [laughing harder]

[@TheVeggiekat]

Story 2 the SD is probably expecting dad’s house to be like it is on weekends fulltime

[@Mr.andMrs.Smith_0420]

Story 2- I get finding out that your kid not being biologically yours can be hard to take, but Op's husband needs to man tf up and be a husband to her and father to his other kids, I just feel so bad for Op in this sh*t show of a situation, if my husband were to ask for paternity, the relationship would already be over.

[@heymikey4025]

9:28 funny that the commenter thinks that the psycho MIL will end up at the pearly gates…more likely she’ll end up in hell unless the devil doesn’t want her/he fears that she’ll try to takeover/he doesn’t want to deal with this Karen complaining at him…but even if the devil doesn’t want to take her I doubt heaven would take her either…maybe she’ll be stuck in some kind of limbo where she can’t cause anyone anymore harm?

[@emo7636]

Story 2- Jesus christ what do some of y'all need to hear before you understand why this OP doesn't want the stepdaughter living with her? The 12 year old stepdaughter pushes the disabled toddler out of his wheelchair, repeatedly taunts and makes fun of him. She pinches him, bruises him, and hits him in his damn face when he can't speak fast enough for her! That girl bluntly sounds like a monster. And her mother is likely the person telling her it's ok to treat a handicapped toddler this way, I make that assumption based on OP saying she's not allowed to parent her whatsoever. This boy is 4 years old, that's barely out of babyhood. And some of those comments are like 'hm I need more information' or 'OP must be leaving details out'. Are y'all deranged? Or do you hate little toddler boys that much? Oh man this one has me incensed. Also, after all of this horsesh*t, I don't see why OP is so adamant about being mortally offended that her husband asked for a paternity test on her kids as well. Why does that need to be anywhere close to 'the hill your marriage will die on'? It likely doesn't mean he trusts her less, I think he just wants the comfort of that 100% reassurance. My partner and I have 2 small kids, if he suddenly wanted a paternity test I'd look at him funny but be fine with doing it. The mother carries the baby and feels safe with the knowledge that it's her because it cane out of her. Wouldn't it be healthy for the father to have the same knowledge through a test? I think that's somewhat fair. And it's not about being married or unmarried, let's not pretend that married folks are any less likely to venture into infidelity.

[@jakeand9020]

There's only one logical reason she'd be so adamantly against the paternity tests. Daughter isn't the only one of "his" kids he didn't father.

[@dawnjal]

Sooo why is OP against having her children DNA tested? Her husband went through a traumatic experience. Why wouldn’t you put his mind at ease? Something is off there.

[@stephjovi]

Yeah it makes complete sense. He's been tricked by his first wife he has the right to be upset and say I want a test for our kids too. It doesn't hurt them so why not?

[@jakeand9020]

Yeah, she's sooo upset that her husband is hurting and she "can't do anything" but, of course, paternity testing for HER children is not an option. Husband needs paternity testing done ASAP.

[@nataliejohnson9526]

I had a feeling the kid wasn't his from junp

[@Yume10605]

Last story why did op's husband not question a FWB baby? There was no commitment with the bio mom. This just screams the biomom knew and was just using op's husband but also wanted to keep her options open

[@surrealistgirlx]

Story 2) Wow. OP is dealing with so many difficult and critical situations. Many people would have lost it. I give her a lot of credit for being grounded, patient, and her dedication to her boys. I have a seizure disorder. I've had to go to the ER multiple times because of it. Her son was having such bad seizures that he had to take him to the ER. She should have made her husband go somewhere until he got his shit together. Punching things, no matter what the stressors is NEVER acceptable. It sends up a field of red flags. It is consided to be a precursor to physical violence by psych, therapy, and DV professionals. And I say that as someone who deals with CPTSD from extensive child abuse. She needs to take it seriously for her kids. I wish her the best. She will do whatever needs to be done for her kids.

[@nimisilverbird1239]

Bio mother is blocking the kid from contacting her father. That is parental alienation.

[@miguelrodriguez007]

Story 2 just solidifys mandated paternity testing. Paternity fraud should be a crime.

[@warandragon4713]

Story1: MIL screaming on the telephone was maybe her Rage that she had lost her tool of power

[@teddychu1177]

Story 1: My father has always had emotional regulation problems(I suspect he's NeuroDivergent and never got treatment because of his CPTSD from childhood abuse as well) especially when it comes to anger. And he's in his mid-80s now and it's only going downhill... Story 2: Dear gods that biomom(not OP) is psychotic... I really feed for the StepDaughter's situation breeding that kind of resentment. Not that it really excuses her lashing out to that extreme, but it certainly explains it. OP's husband's emotions are valid, but like commenters said, he needs to reign them in better for his biokids'(and spouse's) health and safety. That one lie being exposed is likely for this situation to go nuclear..

[@RosiaMarz]

Markee heyyyyy from Detroit, Michigan, king!

[@carlrood4457]

Pizza at a rehearsal dinner? Do you know what's gluten free, provided cross contamination is avoided? Every meat ever.

[@livewellwitheds6885]

story 2 thats not just bullying that is also physical abuse. i would not allow somebody like that into my home. moving/pushing somebodys wheelchair without permission is not okay at all. do not mess with other peoples mobility devices. step daughter knows she is abusing somebody who cannot fight back.

[@AnnieAnnieBuckwheatCakes]

I wouldn't marry into a family with a person like the MIL in this story. The level of mental load trying to navigate life around someone like that is exhausting. MIL could never be left unsupervised by OP around any kids they have because her husband will inevitably give in to his awful mother. Or MIL will try to give OP food containing gluten.

[@hewhoisnowhere]

8:50 I'm 17 n have only grown older not grown up for a few years now but I'm trying, and this in her 70's woman has not

[@ammo19911]

Story 2: Just do dna test, nothing to lose unless op cheated too. Considering what was found, the clean dna tests would be needed to get further in healing.

[@ammo19911]

Hearing how she thinks about it made me realize, op is just stupid.

[@nimisilverbird1239]

Nta. Stepdaughter is a nasty entitled bully. She needs therapy and discipline. Does he think it is ok for the other kids to live in fear. Also the kid does know that being around all the time means she won't get dad's undivided attention. Op even says she takes her kids away when she comes over. Daughter probably thinks if she moves in op and the other kids will move out.

[@victorvaldez8869]

Story One: It sounds like MIL was trying to drive OP away from the marriage by being terrible. We've seen this before "You're stealing my BABY away from ME!!!" attitude with other crazy MILs, & knowing that OP, the wife, has gluten insensitivity in her genes that could be passed on & produce what I'm sure she'd call "defective" grandkids are both possible motives for this behavior.

[@littlestrawberryfaery]

" he needed beer goggles" Damn girl just say you're insecure.... That was so unnecessary This little girl seems to have some serious issues and I feel like bio mom and dad are a big big issue in it all.

[@Dira7411]

So husband let this random little girl into y’all’s kids life to traumatize and abuse them and she won’t even his, like wow

[@jennifersilves4195]

All bio-mom has to say is he's not the father.

[@l3v1ckUK]

The idea of a rehearsal dinner seems to be a very American thing. You don't get those here at all.

[@MariaPlacido-b7s]

Good Labour Day Monday Morning from Toronto Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 😊

[@ajzephyros7454]

Happy Labor Day (With Americanized spelling) from NY, NY, USA

[@morninggoblins]

Someone in the second story mentioned mandatory DNA testing, so I needed to comment on that. I think it should culturally be the norm to just DNA test your child at birth, I don't plan on having children but if I did that's what I would do, but I think making it mandatory is a mistake. There are women in abusive situations who don't realize or don't have the power that they need to leave until they become pregnant, and mandatory DNA testing would permanently tie the mother to that man. By having something be the cultural norm but not a law, it would allow the wiggle room for these women to escape, while still putting the pressure on women who are attempting to pull a fast one. Because if you're staying with the man, why are you not getting your child DNA tested? Everyone does it, do you have something to hide? Just had to go on a mini rant because I was literally thinking about this yesterday

[@sigdrifahildr2624]

Man finds out daughter isn't his. Wife without any connection to the child most affected..women

[@jonmendelson1104]

19:46 "Where would he and I work? .... He does some NSFW things in his" I get what they mean, but I had to chuckle at that. The initialism NSFW means 'not safe for work', presumably anything he does for work is safe for work.

[@MizMorgue1]

Damn! S2 sucks! Hubs is grieving badly. I sincerely hopes he finds a therapist he gels with. SDs mom sounds like a real piece of work. That poor little girl! All of this would've been avoided if they'd done a parental test when SD was born! How are adults STILL this irresponsible in 2024??!! What. A. Mess😑

[@happyfriar]

Her husband had a 15 year reality yanked away from him, but the idea of giving him some solidity, even for irrational paranoia, is divorce worthy. Solid partnering there. 🙄

[@jakeand9020]

She doesn't want to make his situation worse by him finding out the daughter isn't the only one that's not his.

[@happyfriar]

@@jakeand9020 I don't think the other kids aren't his. She's just making his problems about her.

[@PowerStruggle555]

MIL screaming on phone (Cue peppa pig hanging up meme)

[@tinywaterdrinker5136]

EVERYONE in story 2 is shady. Why did she marry someone w a crazy daughter she's never want living with her? Why did her husband never have a formal custody agreement AND why did he PRETEND (bc it was him pretending) that he didn't know he wasnt on the birth certificate? Sounds like he was trying to dodge child support and that bit him right in his ass

[@perplexedbystander6203]

I am gluten intolerant and have dialed for a gluten free pizza before now. I know that's not the issue with mother in law in story 1. Some places have a pizza option as well as other options.

[@Dira7411]

Ok so all the times step daughter abused the youngest was she disciplined??? I bet she wasn’t smmfh kept that devil away from that baby I wouldn’t have let her come back after the first situation. Let dad stay the weekend at grandparents with her or maybe a hotel cause HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO