My Parents Are Taking Away My Car Unless I Let Them Track me 24/7 r/Relationships

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

9:46 OPs dad called her a b*tch for not wanting to share her location as a grown ass woman. It doesn’t just _look_ bad, it _is_ bad.

[@socketyellow3]

I would never forget that, the fact she breezed over it probably means he’s insulted her before.

[@dionysus_adores]

Op's family doesn't sound like they love her at all. She needs to cut contact and never see them again. Op will live a happier life

[@sachxtrem]

Story 2: Dad is the fking mvp here. What a champ. Kudos to OP and Tiff for going about this in a mature and productive manner.

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

When I hear story 1, I remember OP is almost 30. This is ridiculous, and I’m glad she’s leaving for London. And her dad calling her a b*tch?! WTAF?! Have they always been abusive and manipulative?!

[@bcase5328]

Ditch items which you moved to London. Keep the phone you moved to London with that location. Only call your parents from that phone. Get another new phone that you keep at another location, (which has a different service). Move flats. Never bring your old phone nor old items to your new flat. Don't tell your circle at home, especially your parents that you have changed flats. Don't share you work phone number with home.

[@josemadera3138]

I look at it more like bro she's almost 30 she should have her own car by now what is she doing with her life she lives with her parents has no bills has no property has no car if I were her parents I'd be wondering what the fuck shes doing too dose she have a drug problem maybe she's gambling like you should have something by the time you're thirty of all you do is live with your parents and don't do shit, the parents are probably tired of taking care of a thirty-year-old adult taking advantage of them maybe they want to be something maybe they're assholes because they're tired of her just staying around not doing shit

[@WGottefried]

I don't know why, but the dad's insult shocked me so much, and really broke my heart. I would have never spoken to him again in her shoes, for that alone. But both parents are garbage anyways

[@mdsx01]

Story 1: Anyone wanna bet that the reason the parents changed their mind is that they already have tracking and spy software on her phone, saw her post on reddit, and gave a little bit so OP didnt rip out the hook completely.

[@eph2vv89only1way]

Story 2: OP IS a great dad whether he feels like it or not. Being a great dad doesn't mean never needing help, especially at his age. It means doing the best you can and not being too proud to admit and accept that help when you need it.

[@danacarter9147]

Agreed. Story 2 leaves no dry eyes in the house. 🥲

[@frozenheart7133]

I’m so glad this couple had his dad. He is amazing and these kids have no clue how bad things could have been.

[@smyl665]

AAARRGGHH!!! WE CAN'T LEAVE IT THERE!!!! I NEED DAD'S REACTION!!! This is such a "Restore Faith in Humanity" post. I feel good about it, but know that I could feel BETTER...

[@Iflie]

Right! We need the grand finale! They'd better have a big house too with the generational living. And OP will be able to pay his great dad back by helping to raise his baby sibling and provide stability as his father is probably quite old and kid wil still need to go to college one day.

[@Listrynne]

That story is just adorable. I love the dad for how awesome he is. So glad he gets another kid and OP gets a sibling.

[@cptfwiffo]

Birthday is in a week. The last post is 8days old

[@princessstarpeach9161]

Leave the car and 🏃‍♀️ and go no contact with them there are toxic 😑.

[@eph2vv89only1way]

Story 1: Those parents are abusive controllers. And there was no flip on the situation. It was just a change of tactics. They went from pressure and punishment to guilt tripping. Not a flip. As far as the love goes, the parents may or may not love op. Control isn't love. And I suspect op is trauma bonded (similar to Stockholm Syndrome, where abuse victims bond with their abusers as a survival tactic), which is often confused for love.

[@TuAmigoElMorrocoy]

The last story is so wholesome, its always a breath of fresh air to have happy ending in these usually anxiety inducing stories of reddit

[@danacarter9147]

I so agree with you, the second story had a "severe thunderstorms and tornadoes" beginning, and a "sunshine and double rainbows" ending, which we all love.💛

[@benjie128]

Last story. OP's dad is grandpa of the century.

[@BloodSunBlast]

Story 1: i relate so much to op. The blinded abuse.

[@Chantal_P-v4x]

Story 1 - NTA. OP should absolutely NOT give in to her parents' demands for a tracker. And I would DIE on that hill. Since public transport is available then that one hour commute is only more time to spend away from them! OP gives in and they win. Call me stubborn but I personally would rather eat mud than let them win this one. I'm with others here too - no use renting an apartment or anything since she's moving to another city soon. But certainly, I'd look at a short-term room rental. Might ever be able to find one closer to work by bus (or even walking) since yeah... no sense in buying a car just to sell it within months. Also, no contact may be warranted here. What kind of parents even think of tracking a 28-year-old? And what kind of father calls his own daughter such a terrible thing through her door?

[@chinavaughan6383]

Story 1: Forget the car, work on getting your own place! Your parents are too controlling😢

[@franciscalemessy3498]

Story 2 is wonderful, you see challenges, lessons learnt, progress, and happiness. ❤

[@LisaApril]

I heard this first part of the story where they were living with his dad before. It is so so nice to find out this young man is doing so well. He has a wonderful father. And I'm so happy to know the father will also have a family and a baby. That's why so many people want updates and to not even hear a story if it doesn't have one.

[@charmedleblanc]

Story 2 is so wonderful 😊. I wish all people could have even half the help OP was able to get. They're a mix of extraordinary people and good support. OP having such a good job and welding school, her getting to go to school, and Grandpa. If all young people had even half that the country would be in better shape. Especially since we're forcing children on people.

[@ruthhenderson5413]

Forcing children on people? No one is forcing people to have sex without protection. But if you are talking about victims of rape or incest, such people should not be forced to have those children either. Between responsible birth control and abortion, no one need be forced. It does seem that in Story 2, the child was wanted, and Dad was a hero supporter. Maybe not quite a hero in the department of responsible birth control, though.

[@debdoug4136]

​@ruthhenderson5413 umm do you not realize states are trying to outlaw birth control and abortion? But dad/grampa is a hero. He is teaching both his son and granpas baby mamma to be grown.

[@charmedleblanc]

@@ruthhenderson5413 it's nearly impossible for teens to get birth control. Sex Education is gone, which statistics shows lowered teen pregnancy rates.

[@charmedleblanc]

@@debdoug4136 they have outlawed abortion in many states and they are making it impossible to leave the state, even if you can afford it. They have outlawed abortion pills and they are planning on going after people legally. If you can't tell I'm angry 😡 at my country. I love Grandpa 😍

[@betheguy_posts]

"Our public transportation system isn't that good. My job is only a 10 minute drive away, but by bus it would be an hour." 🎶 Livin' in America 🎶

[@betheguy_posts]

source: Live in Philly currently, SEPTA can shove it.

[@wmdkitty]

When I can get there faster than the bus, at only 5mph in a motorized wheelchair...

[@Lillireify]

Story 2 - THAT CLIFFHANGER IS KILLING ME! HOW DID THE BIRTHDAY WENT?!?!

[@shersmk90]

SAME!!! i WANT AN UPDATE :)

[@cptfwiffo]

The last post is 8 days old... check next week

[@charmedleblanc]

@@cptfwiffo I hope so 🤞

[@QueenSix811]

Any more updates yet?

[@cptfwiffo]

Yes... Update - My Dad's gf is pregnant, my dad doesnt know and she doesnt know he is going to propose and I am so happy and I need to get it off my chest before I explode and accidentally tell them. UPDATE- Well here is an update! The past 2 weeks has been hell to keep all this in and not accidentally tell anyone anything! But this is how it all went. It took me a while to make this update because I have been in my feels. Monday my Dad tried to sleep in like usual but my daughter was not having it so we made him breakfast in bed and they watched Disney movies and danced until 11 am. The rest of the day I spent cleaning the house and prepping for everyone, my gf Tiff went to go pick up Kay's parents at 330 and were at the house by 4. Kay showed up around 430. Just some info - Kay's parents are older and live with her at her house so they can save their money from working to retire faster and possibly spend the winters in warmer climate and summers here with Kay. Dinner was amazing and we all had a great time and Jelly was definitely stealing the spotlight trying to "help" blow out Pa's candles but he didnt mind so much. The whole time my heart was racing and I was trying to figure out how to help my Dad propose and help Kay tell him. So the way it happened - was that my Dad put the engagement ring in a gift bag to make it look like it was a gift to him and he planned on opening it last to surprise her, she planned on her gift having the ultrasound picture last to surprise him, as you see this wasnt working because they were both adamant on which gift being last. Again, I am struggling trying to middle man because he wasnt listening and I didnt want her to get upset. So we finally convinced him to open Kay's present before his. Arguing with the birthday boy was giving me dirty looks from everyone and Tiff ended up elbowing me in my ribs to cut it out. I was stressed. So my Dad opens Kay's gift and sees the ultrasound in a frame but didnt look at the name or anything just the ultrasound and he stared me down and then looked at Tiff and yelled "youre pregnant? Im having another grandbaby?" literally he yelled it so loud, everyone yelled congrats and Tiff yelled back F\*ck No. The look of confusion on everyones face and Kay over there snort laughing and said "no Im pregnant". My Dad just blank faced stared at her for what felt like eternity which was really like 10 seconds and asked are you sure? She said yes and showed her name on the ultrasound and thats when my Dad just started crying and hugging her. He was so happy and his hands where shaking and he was hugging everyone saying he was going to be a Dad again. I nudged him and he quickly ran to get his gift and got on one knee and proposed. Now everyone is crying Kay said yes and honestly we probably could have cured some land drought with all the tears in the room. Kay's mom almost had a heart attack and her Dad couldnt stop hugging Kay and my Dad. Tiff was surprised I kept this for so long and didnt even tell her. I did ask for them to not stress me out like this if they planned a gender reveal and to just give it to someone else lol. the stress from all this literally made me nauseous! \*here is where I am in my feels and why it took a while for me to write this. When my gf was pregnant I didnt have that sense of joy and happiness and feeling like my Dad did. He is so excited and now he is engaged and you can just see and feel it all over him. He wouldnt stop touching Kay's stomach and kissing her. When Tiff told me she was pregnant I was scared and wanted to run. I love my daughter and she is so awesome but even going to the dr appts Tiff and I would cry after because how real it was and we werent happy. I wouldnt change any of it but some part of me feels robbed obviously this is our own fault but that doesnt take away the feeling. Then the other portion of reality hit, Kay has her own house her own family, my Dad has us, but I have my own family now and this will change everything. When is he going to move in with her? Do I take over the mortgage payments? I planned on building my credit to get approved but I thought I had time, but it seems like time was yesterday. What now about my family? She doesnt want to get married out of need but want, but what happens if something happens to me? Where will they go? where will my daughter live? How do I secure their future like my Dad did for me? anyway I hope this was the update everyone was looking for! I just want to thank everyone for giving me strength to hold on to this secret. When I felt like I was going to explode I would just come back and read the comments!

[@PinkMarshmallows]

Story 1: NTA. OP's parents are abusive AF. I hope OP gets away from those crazies. Update: I'm so glad that OP got away from her abusive parents.

[@kumikor3392]

Story 1: i don't like how much i can relate to the parental control and craziness. Except i made sure to buy my own phone and finance a car without any financial assistance from my parents. My mom oversteps boundaries and thinks she has a claim over what i do because of her fears. The information diet part his hard too! OP should work more to have financial independence from their parents. This is the worst situation

[@kumikor3392]

Story 2: I absolutely love that things may be hard at small moments, but overall everyone is so happy 🥰

[@mbyerly9680]

OP's story about the unplanned baby should be read in every sex education class. It should also be pointed out that most kids don't have even one parent's support. And, yikes, on that state law. I wonder if the forced bride's parents have to give the in laws a cow?

[@charmedleblanc]

@@LostSoulchild89 forced marriage is never a good thing. Oh and by the way about half the marriages are between a adult and child.

[@essenceconnellfollon7467]

Please I needed this wholesome update!!!

[@bonnielee78]

I can't wait to hear an update from OP of story 2 about the engagement and baby. I was really worried that the dad would end up hooking up with the sons baby mama... Thank god I was wrong!

[@Sclasspsycho]

I can relate to OP in story one. I’m still at home at 30 and feel like I’m emotionally shackled because I’m neurodivergent.

[@charmedleblanc]

I'm not in a extremely bad situation but I'm still at home at 40 and will be for the rest of my mom's life.

[@timbit8670]

I remember the original post from the last story. I so happy for op and his little family especially for his father who was so supportive during the rough times

[@ikeharper9339]

Oh story two made me a little emotional!! I'm so happy those kids had that awesome dad backing them up! That's real love man. 😢 I hope they keep having a beautiful beautiful life!

[@immortalsofar5314]

My parents stopped me riding their 90cc moped when I was living with them. I had a friend of mine pick me up on his 1000cc Fireblade and wheelie off on Saturday morning and then meet up and drop me off that evening. I got given access again once I got back. As to why they returned the keys, they were losing the only hold they had on OP. I think I was about 8 when I figured out not to get attached to what you can't hold on to.

[@catsncrows]

Yes, my mother always threatened unhinged things like "I'll throw the television out into the snow". Yeah lady, you do that, you be crazy like that😒 Edit I can tell I'm healing, I read what I just wrote and started laughing hysterically. Who the hell says that? Humor is starting to override 12 year old scared me

[@immortalsofar5314]

@@catsncrowsYeah, it took my cousin a decade or two to get over my grandmother's threat to "squeal up your bum!"

[@catsncrows]

@@immortalsofar5314 whoa!😶 I have a feeling that if I felt like doing stand up comedy my family would be a goldmine. My sister has pulled a few good ones as well

[@bbureau12]

Story 1: Controlling behavior never ends with just one concession. It goes from "we just want to put a tracker on your phone" to "we're just concerned about these friends of yours" to "you're only [insert reasonable marriage age.] You're too young to move out and get married." I'd waged the reason she was single for seven years is at least partially due to her parents.

[@eph2vv89only1way]

Last story: What a happy note to end on! Congratulations to everyone in the story!

[@littlegreycat]

Fantastic updates on Story 2. I hope he posts soon about the proposal and baby announcement

[@SasoAkasuna]

"We'll both get to be dads together" made me cry ngl 😭😭

[@mgen278]

I LOVE Story 2! Just happy feels all around ❤😊

[@cptfwiffo]

Last story has an update!! Update - My Dad's gf is pregnant, my dad doesnt know and she doesnt know he is going to propose and I am so happy and I need to get it off my chest before I explode and accidentally tell them. UPDATE- Well here is an update! The past 2 weeks has been hell to keep all this in and not accidentally tell anyone anything! But this is how it all went. It took me a while to make this update because I have been in my feels. Monday my Dad tried to sleep in like usual but my daughter was not having it so we made him breakfast in bed and they watched Disney movies and danced until 11 am. The rest of the day I spent cleaning the house and prepping for everyone, my gf Tiff went to go pick up Kay's parents at 330 and were at the house by 4. Kay showed up around 430. Just some info - Kay's parents are older and live with her at her house so they can save their money from working to retire faster and possibly spend the winters in warmer climate and summers here with Kay. Dinner was amazing and we all had a great time and Jelly was definitely stealing the spotlight trying to "help" blow out Pa's candles but he didnt mind so much. The whole time my heart was racing and I was trying to figure out how to help my Dad propose and help Kay tell him. So the way it happened - was that my Dad put the engagement ring in a gift bag to make it look like it was a gift to him and he planned on opening it last to surprise her, she planned on her gift having the ultrasound picture last to surprise him, as you see this wasnt working because they were both adamant on which gift being last. Again, I am struggling trying to middle man because he wasnt listening and I didnt want her to get upset. So we finally convinced him to open Kay's present before his. Arguing with the birthday boy was giving me dirty looks from everyone and Tiff ended up elbowing me in my ribs to cut it out. I was stressed. So my Dad opens Kay's gift and sees the ultrasound in a frame but didnt look at the name or anything just the ultrasound and he stared me down and then looked at Tiff and yelled "youre pregnant? Im having another grandbaby?" literally he yelled it so loud, everyone yelled congrats and Tiff yelled back F\*ck No. The look of confusion on everyones face and Kay over there snort laughing and said "no Im pregnant". My Dad just blank faced stared at her for what felt like eternity which was really like 10 seconds and asked are you sure? She said yes and showed her name on the ultrasound and thats when my Dad just started crying and hugging her. He was so happy and his hands where shaking and he was hugging everyone saying he was going to be a Dad again. I nudged him and he quickly ran to get his gift and got on one knee and proposed. Now everyone is crying Kay said yes and honestly we probably could have cured some land drought with all the tears in the room. Kay's mom almost had a heart attack and her Dad couldnt stop hugging Kay and my Dad. Tiff was surprised I kept this for so long and didnt even tell her. I did ask for them to not stress me out like this if they planned a gender reveal and to just give it to someone else lol. the stress from all this literally made me nauseous! \*here is where I am in my feels and why it took a while for me to write this. When my gf was pregnant I didnt have that sense of joy and happiness and feeling like my Dad did. He is so excited and now he is engaged and you can just see and feel it all over him. He wouldnt stop touching Kay's stomach and kissing her. When Tiff told me she was pregnant I was scared and wanted to run. I love my daughter and she is so awesome but even going to the dr appts Tiff and I would cry after because how real it was and we werent happy. I wouldnt change any of it but some part of me feels robbed obviously this is our own fault but that doesnt take away the feeling. Then the other portion of reality hit, Kay has her own house her own family, my Dad has us, but I have my own family now and this will change everything. When is he going to move in with her? Do I take over the mortgage payments? I planned on building my credit to get approved but I thought I had time, but it seems like time was yesterday. What now about my family? She doesnt want to get married out of need but want, but what happens if something happens to me? Where will they go? where will my daughter live? How do I secure their future like my Dad did for me? anyway I hope this was the update everyone was looking for! I just want to thank everyone for giving me strength to hold on to this secret. When I felt like I was going to explode I would just come back and read the comments!

[@Poopiepies]

Story one sounds just like my parents. So glad op got away

[@Kris-zy7is]

This is exactly how my father was. I bought a car but he convinced me to put it in his name so I could get 0% interest for 5 years (this is like 20 yrs ago). He constantly threatened to take away my car whenever he didn’t like what I was doing. “You didn’t practice piano? No car then.” Like just lame shit like that. I was so happy when that car got total & in that moment I realized I’d never put myself in that position again.

[@catpatrick3838]

Any bets that parents installed some kind of tracker on the car before returning the keys? Parents are from crazy town trying to keep tabs on their grown azz daughter like that. Yeesh! Being a parent to grown "children" isn't easy but cut the chord/apron strings/whatever already! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@maurer3d]

Story 1 (before update): NT, you are a 28 year old woman, not a teen just learning to drive. You have every right to have your own independent life. I would advise moving out ASAP, because your parents are crazy. Story 1 (update): Take your phone to the store and have it checked for tracking software, it is literally the only reason your psycho parents would shift their attitude so suddenly.

[@notconvincedgranny6573]

Last story: dad does propose, gf tells him about baby, they decide to move and agree to sell OP the house.

[@kamicokrolock]

Story 1. NTA, this is how my mom treated me (requiring I tell her where I was going, calling when I got to my destination etc) when I was in GRADE SCHOOL. Digital tracking is wildly inappropriate for an adult child and questionable for an underage child (I grew up in the 90's-00's and I actually find surveying your kids with modern tech to be too invasive) The way the parents backed down reeks of they installed a trader in the car (an air tag or similar would do) and/or hidden traders on OP's phone/devices. I'd check everything.

[@Trijem]

24:01 😮 Ummm. Yeah, you spilled the beans. Duh!

[@BunkoValentine]

Her parents are creepy stalkers.

[@megannason3649]

The young man in the second story is awesome. He and Tiffany are on track to make good money and have a good life because both a welder and a nurse can make really good money

[@AvyFerg]

It's crazy that the poster in the first story calls her mom all the time throughout the day to talk to her about stuff and the mom still feels the need to track her

[@idamay1072]

The first story...wow I don't even track my kids and they are kids, who just started going out on their own (we live in a very safe country). I call them, if I need to know where they are.

[@axepagode33626]

This sound great right up to the point where Tiffany or OP starts bringing Tinder dates home to scratch an itch.

[@janet6421]

Story 1. OK, put a tracker on my phone, I just will not bring it on my long hikes so there will be no way to contact me in an emergency.

[@TheBerkeleyBeauty]

My daughter was on my plan when she was in college and I had the ability to track her whenever I wanted. We didn’t talk about it but she knew. I checked on her from time to time when she was away from campus for a weekend, or when it took her longer to get home than usual (she went to university about 2 hours away from home). I still check up on her to make sure she made it to her destination ok because she always forgets to call or text, and she’s married now, but she also checks on me. I check up on my son too. I don’t see a problem unless your up to no good. If OP doesn’t like it, she should definitely make other plans tho.

[@moonyollie6977]

S2: The Dad is the fucking G honestly. Making sure both kids are able to make choices but also making sure they both take responsability, going to court to get the money Tiff is OWED, giving them goals to strive towards, supporting them, and being a backup is things don't go well. Honestly, such an amazing Dad. Edit: I am so so happy about that update!

[@TheBerkeleyBeauty]

OP says his dad doesn’t help much, but they live with him rent free. Is he kidding?

[@tjayjay6657]

Story 1- Op is almost 30 years of age her parents are nuts op isnt a teenager and doesnt need monitoring I think op needed the job in London to grow and become independent

[@DayumSonny]

Story 2: The dad's a champ. The gold standard.

[@janenorwood1614]

Story 3- seems like OP it's stuck as well

[@micahdougan]

Story 1. Her father called her a stupid b**** and she mentioned it like no bid deal. Wow.

[@cloudian159]

Story 1 they totally put a tracker in the car and probably snuck one into the op's purse or backpack

[@yukineko5613]

Thank you for making my way home from work pleasent ❤️😊

[@karelidoes]

I thought this was a 16 year old and I was like yeah I can see how the parents think it's ok, but 28??? And they are still helicoptering ???? Like wtf????

[@telinhajp]

Good night, Markee! Wishing you a fabulous Thursday!　おやすみ！ ❤️🤗

[@CareyBilley]

S1 NTA Definitely nope out of this situation, this may have started as concern and went straight to controlling behavior. Give your dad back the car keys and start saving for a place and a car of your own, this is bordering on obsessive and you wouldn't accept this from a partner. Run fast and run far and definitely go low contact. Make lots of friends in London, it's time to come out of your shell.

[@Letha-AnnCooper]

OP’s parents lied about the car. Mommy is a total control freak. Your dad should have stopped this crap quite sometime ago. Call OP a stupid B is over the top. ASAP. Get out!!! Get out as soon as possible.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

Story 1 i have life360 with my daughter. Outdoors for woman alone is dangerous. She can switch it off but when she goes riding with her horse of hiking with our dogs she turns it on for safety reasons. I don't stalk her it is just in case of emergency.

[@lina9535]

Story 1: I would have directed OP to the insane parents sub. I mean, when I lived with my grandpa (mom and I moved in with him when my grandma passed, I was around 10), and while mom moved out earlier to live with her bf, I stayed until like... 22? If I went out at night (we live in a pretty safe area), I would let grandpa know that I was going out (if he was awake, which he usually was until 11-midnight), and an approximation of how long I'd be gone (usually an hour). For me that is just common sense/decensy.

[@brialapoint2608]

There's not enough weed in the world. Story one. Run away from home cut ties never look back . mom is a psycho

[@skeltonslay8er781]

I’m from Missouri, and that’s bs

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Hope the surprises aren’t ruined by his posts going viral.

[@hilaryc3203]

OP didn't know why her parents decided to give the car back? Well probably because they had a GPS installed on it.

[@heartabduction]

Hell yeah, nothing like fleeing the country when parents are too much. That probably sounds sarcastic, but seriously it's fucking awesome and I'm so happy for her!

[@Trijem]

17:43 They forced my parents to marry.. No. That is not legal in any American state. Ask my family lawyer. 🤷‍♂️ ⭐ Doing my part to fight the bot that shall remain nameless. 🐾🐺🐾

[@mattl6300]

Some parents can't transition from the parents of children to the parents of adults.

[@stuffedninja1337]

I need more updaaaaaaates

[@jemase7931]

Welding is good money if you get into the right specialty.

[@lauriemeyer7030]

The 180° flip happened because they put a tracker on the car.

[@wyvern723]

OP 1 is not a child. Her parents are super toxic. I hope she escaped them. My mom was crazy like that. If tracking tech had been readily available when I was a teenager and into my twenties, my mom would have tried it ... probably wirhout me even knowing it.

[@cloiebuggeater]

From the title, i assumed a minor who just started driving. Then OP's almost 30 🤦‍♀️.

[@ObsidianFaux]

28- 28!? I thought op would be a young teen

[@Letha-AnnCooper]

If OP’s girl friend should not be living with OP’s dad. If they are not together, she should move out. OP and girl friend are not going to be married so they need to start separate lives. Nice of OP’s dad to be so generous with Tiffany but, it’s time for a changeIf OP and Tiffany can take some time apart they might have a chance later in life. Best of luck

[@francissobotka8725]

Time for op to move when they have the chance to go to london.

[@LittleImpaler]

Jelly? What kind of name is Jelly for a kid?

[@LittleImpaler]

Story 1. She's an adult. She needs to move out. Where is she from. If she lives in Europa she can take bus or train to get around. It's not America where you need to have a car to get around.

[@anrexfk]

Best advice I can give you is ... get a cat ... or a dog ... but a cat is better since it is less dependent on you. You can talk to it and it can help you coop with the loneliness

[@dawnstone4424]

Hi Markee! ❤

[@sammieh9695]

I think the 180 flip was because they put a tracker in the car

[@BLuddenify]

You should give them the car back and learn to ride the bus if their is one you can ride, they will not ever let you grow up. If you don't walk out you will never have a life. Wow she is a master of twisting the guilt knife. Hear is a tip for living alone, don't ever let any one control your like parent's do! You will know you have mastered it when what your parents opinion no longer matters to you as much.

[@jameslyons6655]

Story one. The parents are jerks but it seems like it’s nothing new. OP needs to get out on her own. You can’t have it both ways.

[@protojager]

You don't need to be tech savvy for trackers anymore, apple air tags and similar items aren't hard to hide.

[@HodajuciParadoks]

Well, she needs to move out first...she is almost 30 not 15. Her mom is sick. I do tell my mom where I go, when I come home I do text and I can go where ever I want and do what ever and stay up to when ever I want, but I do not share my location, she does not need to or ask for, we do not live together, but she does worry, but not like her mom, worry yes, never stalk. She has a job, she should just move and buy car later. NTA. Her parents are sick. Use taxi.

[@chessqueen7282]

Story 2 has 2 w dads

[@CareyBilley]

S2 I seriously don't understand what parents are thinking when they kick their children out after a mistake like this, what lesson is a 16 year old going to learn other than my parents are AH. Life is about making mistakes and overcoming them but this is just cruel and unusual punishment and detrimental to this new life, OP and his GF didn't even get a chance to make a decision about what to do with the child and the find themselves on the street. Parents like this should be charged with child abuse for the teenagers and the unborn child.

[@CareyBilley]

S2 Now we know why OP's parents are divorced, his mom's a witch.

[@CareyBilley]

This is OP's step up or shut up moment, life isn't fair and choices have consequences and stupid choices even more so. Right now the burden feels likes it's all on your but give it time eventually the babies mother will catch up financially and then the burden will even out. None of this is the child's fault and you need to keep your resentment of the situation in check or you will pass it onto your child, men don't do this cowards do.

[@CareyBilley]

And in the end we get a Disney finish, dreams can come true with a little effort and a whole lot of luck.

[@josemadera3138]

She complains about not having any freedoms or privacy with her parents and her parents being over bounds but yet she keeps living with a parent's it's time for you to make your own life, if you want to be treated and respected like a dog act like a dog move out catch your own car get your own shit you're thirty years old

[@aliveashes4532]

Damn, seems rslash and markee each found the same stories, lol

[@cloiebuggeater]

What crazy version of baptist forces 15 year olds to get married for kissing? Definitely not the baptist i grew up with.

[@josemadera3138]

If your parents bought you a car then you deal with it if you don't like it by your own car you're almost thirty years old your parents should nt be buying you cars at 30

[@jamesdotson1080]

Story 1: If you don't want to be treated like a 15 year old then you need to take responsibility for your own life and be independent in all aspects of your life. Absolutely zero reason this 28 year old child could not have set herself up for nice head start by this time in her life. Minimal financial burden that came at the price of living with her family and restrictions on personal freedom. About time she got out on her own. Damn leech.

[@charaxiphare]

Dude I hope you're sterile as fuck never have kids. Also print this out and show it to a therapist and ask them to fix you

[@michealwatts7469]

If my kids were out and about I wouldn’t mind having a tracker to know they’re safe. If my kid is above 18 Id say they are fine and don’t need my meddling. To generally say “having a tracker in my phone is creepy” is a very… problematic statement since parents DO care about their kids and want them home safe. In this context shes obviously old enough to be on her own but yeah if youre gonna write on reddit make sure youre saying what you mean.

[@flamelily2086]

Story 1 It sounds as though OP might be from an Asian family. That kind of control of an adult, unmarried daughter is pretty normal in Asian culture.

[@deborahyoung1873]

Thats when you tell them to piss off and mind their own business.

[@axepagode33626]

Tracker Story: This is stupid. Are you 28 or 12?

[@JasperCatProductions]

I wouldn’t talk to you either, why on earth are her parents paying you child support? You knocked up a 16 year old and make her folks give you money? Ick

[@ashab6806]

Well if they didn't want to pay cs then they shouldn't have kick their daughter out

[@madgevanness4011]

Parents are responsible to 18 yo. If they kick their child out, whoever is providing care should get it. States are allowed to charge parents if their children are moved to foster care.

[@BLuddenify]

#2. You are a parent now, grow the f-ck up. That child is as much yours as it is hers, as for the grands who have checked on you they should be out of your lives. You have a great dad! If you fallow suit you will be a fine dad.

[@strangelic4234]

What tf are you talking about? OP sounds like the most mature teen I've met in a long time.

[@maurer3d]

Story 2: YTA, so you knock her up now you want to throw her out? Wow your a real winner. If I were your dad I would tell you if anyone is leaving it's you. Your baby mama, wants to further her education to give your daughter a better life. Story 2 (update): You can't force anyone to marry someone, in any state in the USA. If this was threatened, your dad should have called the police, and had all guilty parties arrested.

[@Hazey4420]

Omg America stop teaching abstinence only sex ed. Or idk teach your kids about safe sex. Yes that included safe sex with all genders.

[@deborahyoung1873]

So, teach them to be whores and get std's.

[@deerust6528]

@morbid fresh air is for dead people For real, if hiking put it on but off other times