My Planetside 2 Hot Takes | What Would I Change?

Everyone has their own "Hot Takes" around Planetside 2... So I figured it would be fun to share some of my own. Some of the things I would change about the game if I was in the hotseat. Let's discuss! If you enjoyed the video backhand that like button! Feedback is always appreciated.
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[@CAMIKAZE78]

What are your hottest takes about Planetside 2?

[@eltata6911]

Infiltrators: • Remove cloak for flashes and infiltrators • Give infiltrators 500 shield health and access to carbines • Anti infantry mines shouldn't oneshot Vehicles: • Make Sunderers turn and drive faster, similar to ANT levels • Give harassers rumble seat repairs again Air: • Make ground lockons faster but with lesser range so you can actually fight low flying A2G whilst not making the game miserable for high flying A2A CTF: • Revert all bases to be capped with regular points. Implement CTF as a secondary objective such as disabling a large skyshield / destroying a generator

[@uc7953]

Construction has never belonged in the game and never will belong in the game. Its a complete waste of time and resources to work on. Construction mains are playing a completely different game than the rest of the playerbase.

[@Robin-su4fn]

Invisible infantry shouldn't be a thing at all.. keep the sniper rifles drop the cloak. Coming from someone who likes sniper rifles.

[@Robin-su4fn]

​@eltata6911 oh yeah, I agree with all these.

[@RedheadReff]

The game will vastly improve now that Wrel is gone.

[@xicronin38]

Cami already tryna take over for wrel

[@DavidMishchenko]

About time =). It's been too long. And speaking of, it just so happens that Wrel uploaded his first video in 5 years, just now. He is leaving the company, but says he won't stop making games.

[@noble_lemon]

I wonder can he make things better?

[@strikeforce1500]

Finally, Boomerang heavy weapon /s

[@kiro-fo9qg]

If he did I'd know the game would be in better hands.

[@noble_lemon]

@@kiro-fo9qg Wrel at his time when he was youtuber had a good ideas too, his criticism of PS2 sounded reasonable. And he was also actively supported by the audience.

[@soldierhobbes1182]

I also like how the “spicy” hot takes are just things you come to realize after playing long enough.

[@lewis5794]

My hot take: Base numbers should be fewer thereby territories should be larger, but my change would be that certain bases have objectives at "outposts" that must be cleared before control points can be converted. On a MUCH larger scale and similarly to how the amp station functions. E.g. to seige a base like a tehc plant site you need to clear an outpost of buildings, which can also be built up with construction for extra defence, destroy a generator in those buildings which unlocks the shield doors to the control points there. Terrain would have to be altered at a lot of bases but certain areas might need vehicles to clear construction etc.

[@FlakAttack0]

PS1 had towers that acted as natural launching points for attacks on bases. If you bring back those and add objectives that require a combination of vehicles and infantry to address, I think it would go a long way to removing the "no good fights" problem.

[@plusaufmasse7134]

PS2 ist jetzt schon eintönig und langweilig, dein Vorschlag würde das extrem verschlimmern.

[@geek12098]

Honestly, it seems to me that all those "hot" takes are actually reasonable takes to anyone that knows the game and played it for long enough :D

[@MrHocotateFreight]

Some hot takes get so spicy, youtubers pin them to the top of the comment board and their followers roast the comment, but it's still right It's a shame we can't all see the same amount of steps ahead, preferably more than me 😅

[@bewawolf19]

Eh, removing the open nature of planetside is not a good take. The actual gunplay of the game was below par to contemporary games of when it was released, let alone modern competitors and the amount of things that can happen whilst playing is it's main attraction for a lot of people. You would just see the population desert PS2 hard for either squad-esque shooters or COD-esque shooters.

[@silverlunacy8718]

I also think the instant health med pen should be removed. If you are a heavy and you are not using them, you're at a disadvantage because all the others are using them. I don't even look for people who need health because most of the time they have already used a med pen by the time I even get the nano tool out. Medics seem to be only good for reviving.

[@daanstrik4293]

Agreed. Or at least limit how much people can carry to 1 or 2. (This I think would be a better option than outright removing it)

[@billymicchicbobymiclocky6474]

As a medic main I support this

[@Wendingus]

Aim better so they don't have time to heal, EZ

[@TheIlandarLegacy]

Spoken like someone who only runs around in large blobs of friendly pop. Try defending a base by yourself or with a couple of randoms and get back to me.

[@Timoruz]

I actually prefer using the restoration kits because they cost less and work really well with resist shield. I would love to see the medkit shuffle become a thing of the past though.

[@boxinthefield]

I'll argue against vehicle/force multiplier timers. I played all the way back when they were a thing. I was trying to get into flying ESFs at the time and it was a struggle. Pull, blow up on a tree or get oneclipped by a skygod, then have to wait 5 minutes before you can even try again. It was frustrating. All practice for flying itself I had to do in VR training but that doesn't always translate well to live play. While I do agree that chainpulling force multipliers is/can be a problem, I feel like a better solution would be to increase the nanite cost and remove cortium pulls(or make cortium-based nanite discounts instead). This way, you still have somewhat of a timer if you keep getting taken out by people making the effort. Sure, members can pull 50% more/faster but that'd be something for the devs to decide/change.

[@billymicchicbobymiclocky6474]

Agreed a timer in the current state of vehicle would likely just push people away from playing vehicles. It would be sad to pull a main battle tank just to get ambushed by a harasser and cloaked quad which takes less to pull and timer would likely be shorter for them as well.

[@NK-qn6pq]

Yeah, there are way too many cheesy ways to kill tanks for the vehicle spawn timers to return (back when they existed, there were no cloak flashes, AMRs, ambusher jets, etc. And the absolute abortion of an update called CAI hadn't happened yet).

[@endy2629]

The thing is, the same problem still exists with nanites. New player who are learning and die quickly will run out of nanites very fast. However, the more skilled you get, the less you die, and the less you have to worry about nanites. This is only worsened by nanite discounts being available to player who have asp (aka players with more playtime, and generally, more skill). Imo this is backwards to how nanites should limit players. I think they should be a non issue for newer players, and allow repeated repulls, and become more limiting the more skilled you get, similar to how nanites work on infantry, mainly medic. A possible way of doing this could be by making it so that, instead of spending nanites on the vehicle itself, you spend nanites on the ammo. This would mean that new players dying quickly would be able repull, but players who are able to stay alive longer spend more nanites. It would also encourage accuracy, and could allow balancing between guns (make ammo for the non meta weapons much cheaper, so if skilled players want to keep pulling vehicles they can, they just have to use a slightly weaker weapon). I'm not very much of a vehicle player though so I have no idea how this would actually work in practice.

[@boxinthefield]

@@endy2629 That's actually a decent idea but I have no clue if they can even implement that.

[@Shiggy_]

My hot take would be to give everyone inherit athlete 4 or 5. Reducing the acceleration time and reducing deceleration would go a long way to making the game feel more responsive and more modern.

[@foxmcld584]

The only thing I would like to go with the 'no ADS while cloaked' is some way to still zoom while cloaked. I've done a lot of damage by being a spotter in situations where pulling the trigger on my sniper rifle would get me countersniped or shelled. Not sure how this would work. Maybe a tactical or utility option of cloak-capable binoculars?

[@DurakeMe]

This ^^^

[@SilhouetteLifter]

I was thinking this too. and since I think it would feel weird for right-click to simply do nothing if you're cloaked, right clicking could give you like a half-zoom with no crosshair

[@donsg6010]

Maybe make the zoom only 1x when cloaked - continuity-wise, if your scope is cloaked it makes sense that it doesn’t work right?

[@deathtree9756]

My spicy take: make power knifes oneshot again. But also remove vampire implant. In terms of oneshot weapons, the knifes were always the most risky. You have to get into kissing range of your enemies in a game full of guns and then hope you don’t miss with this tiny hitbox. If the enemy sees you the chances to hit are reduced extremely. I think the oneshot from a knife is more fair than from a shotgun, but the vampire implant made ist so that a decently proficient knifers could tank enormous fire when wrecking havoc in the enemy lines, which lead to a lot of frustration. I heard a lot of people say that knife oneshot were to cheesy but personally I could never be mad when a knifer managed to dodge all my bullets or spend the last 20 min sneaking into my teams lines and wait for the right moment to stab me. Getting shotgunned, cqc sniped, or bombarded with hesh rounds or c4 were always way more cheesy for me. (I might be biased, because my only auraxium weapon is the powerknife :p)

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Melee is so desynced that if you managed to kill people with them, you deserve the kill. Knives are much less offensive than the close range bolt rifles.

[@pedropimenta896]

11:54 make it so Outfits can use their resources to add additional defenses, examples are the infantry regen and phalanx turret heatsinks. Imagine if a bases didnt have turrets by default, make it so they are added by players! The same way you add the fore.mentioned addons.

[@motivepigeon]

Part of me wants to try and start a console side of planetside community but I'm so afraid the devs are just going to drop the game

[@jjkthebest]

The sandbox nature is the only reason why I play the game. You're right about it causing issues as well, but it's the thing that makes it unique.

[@xzond494]

Hot take, new players do not earn enough certs/have enough free starter upgrades/missions that give free upgrades. Despite the first 1500 form levels 1-15, and the missions being relatively achievable to newer players, they are still 10 years behind on farming certs. This makes for a huge gateway to vehicle play, as well as playing each classes meta/alternate roles. Light Assaults' need C4, Infiltrator need faster hacking and an SMG, Heavy Beef Cake Giga Chad need medkits, Medic need tool/rez nades, Engi need tool/rep nades. Not to mention all the different roles vehicles offer. All while the new player is wanting a new weapon. Its fine to have goals to achieve for each slot but its also worth noting that there have been many new additions to the game like Boat, Valkyrie, ANT/Construction to name a few, that offer a unique experience and requires significant investment to begin feeling growth. That have not been included in the concept of early game free certs. Progression shouldn't be about pay-to-win, it should be about satisfying and impactful growth in a given section of the game. Offer more cert bonuses upon leveling for more levels past 15 and other milestone, maybe even add in a new tier of ribbon between Gold and Auriaxium that offers 100 certs, at the 560 kills mark. Despite all vets and mid-game players realizing after many hours pay-to-win is not really a thing, PLAY-to-compete is. If you've ever had a new friend join and absolutely struggle to learn to fly (not fight skilled opponents, but simply fly) an ESF or liberator all because they cant turn at a decent rate you know. Or if you've ever received repairs from a new engineer, their tool sucks. And reviving on rank 1 med tool is super slow, and often not even worth trying. (Unless they've patched that, Its been so long). There are plenty of opportunities for newer players to get some quick certs, but come on, a few extra thousand certs to a new player goes a far way into exploring the many different playstyles the game offers. All while letting them decide what to upgrade while they learn. A few poor decisions shouldn't destroy their learning experience. Perhaps after adding a new system that demands a few thousands (or tens of thousands like construction) certs, they should increase the early game reward for new players another 10 levels, or offer a new mission similar to the one they added with this construction update, that lets newer less wealthy cert enjoyers explore that new system.

[@unit220]

It's refreshing to see a major PS2 content creator have actually lucid takes on the game 👍

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Remove the ability to respawn at any non-major base if you are not in the hex. This would be tech plants, amp stations, biolabs, 3 point captures, and the centre base. Having a full platoon redeploy across the map is not fun for either side. Make them actually travel there with vehicles. Remove spawn beacons. Revert routers to be able to be placed anywhere, but with the same spawn restrictions that you must be inside the hex. More restrictions on which bases can spawn certain vehicles. Remove the cookie cutter bases and have creative and interesting layouts for the majority of bases. Talking about you, Construction Sites. Remove medkits and resto kits. Make medic healing good for once. There's currently no reason to heal teammates. It's less efficient than waiting for them to die and then reviving them. Remove 0.75 ADS speed. Some guns have it, some guns don't. You can't tell what ADS speed someone is going to have until they're strafing in front of you. This is confusing for new players. Rocket launchers should be a 1-shot on all infantry classes. ESFs should die in 1 shot to all non-lock-on rocket launchers.

[@WretchedEgg528]

I agree with everything above 100%. Except for the last part. You forgot about the fast shooting launchers like T2 Striker or NSX Masamune. They shoot way too fast to be a one shot kill. I'd also want more tactical options for both infantry and vechicle mounted weapons. NS Scorpion like artillery cannon on a heavy tank, a flamethrower for MAX, exploding remote controlled drone for engineers, a bomber module for the Galaxy, anti-infantry ESF weapon option with Liberator's L-24R Spur like gimballed aiming, incendiary grenade option for grenade launchers, incendiary ammunition for some heavy scout rifles, short-medium range taser sidearm with EMP grenade like effect on hit, small arms resistance field active ability for medics, an implant that allows you to not get insta-killed when your transport explodes (instead you get ejected with a "burning" status effect and take 500 damage), an implant for heavies to allow them to live for 1 second after their hp reaches 0 (and then they die). A toxic fumes grenade for medics that creates a small, nearly transparent cloud of toxins for 10 seconds which puts a "poisoned" status on you every second you stand in it (doesn't stack, but refreshes the timer same as with fire), that deals 50 damage every 3 seconds for 12 seconds (200 dmg) to hp through the shield and the status can be cleansed with a cleansing grenade (since nobody uses it). Also an implant for complete resistance to toxic fumes and an implant that halves the time you're affected by negative statuses. Since we both agree to remove the medkits, how about we replace them with something that only removes the status effects, gives you "poisoned" protection and gives you a movement speed bonus for 8 seconds? An adrenaline shot, that gives you bonus movement speed and the ability to live after your hp reaches 0 for 1 second, that lasts for 8 seconds (the implant from before combines with an adrenaline shot to give you 2 seconds of life instead of 1). I'd also increase the nanite pool (to 1000) and make vechicles, MAX'es and flyers more expensive, while making nades and mines cheaper. Also, i'd slow down the passive nanite income from 1 to 3 minutes, but add an option to get nanites by capturing territories (200 - 400 per base captured with you present on site) and by killing enemies and enemy vechicles while on foot (10 each). If the ESF or Harraser spammer blows up multiple times, he's gone for quite some time.

[@themightymo3491]

Having been recently farmed for a while by a TR sky knight chain-pulling Mosquitos, I already agreed with the idea about cooldowns on vehicle pulls.

[@Tiwey]

thats the reason for nanites. they keep pulling them from their light air station. really annoying

[@Balshazar]

I am starting an in-game campaign to convince players to 'q' spot enemies before shooting them, I do this literally always as a sniper. It helps yourself in keeping track of targets and it helps your teammates.

[@snipegrzywa]

If you aren't spamming Q you are playing wrong.. I've always said this. It's free XP, it gives you great situational awareness, and it's buggy so you end up tagging things you can't even see.

[@matchesburn]

I know it's not exactly pro-gamer strategy, but I also do like throwing Counter-Intel on my Heavy Assault and getting free spots whenever someone so much as even gives me a paper cut.

[@addmen96]

This is something you shoulnt do as in infil or LA. It gives away your position

[@kevincuevas8877]

@@addmen96 Yes, but if you do it from behind your lines on a ridge etc and keep moving, it makes it harder for anyone with counter intel implant to do anything about it. You will help your team a lot more if you reveal your enemies who are about to ambush your team. A captured base with an experienced team is worth more than a several solo kills.

[@kevincuevas8877]

@@addmen96 Other things that help with that, playing NSO faction because it makes it harder to tell voices apart, and doing recon in short bursts from a distance since your character will only say one phrase at a time even if you tag an entire enemy squad in that moment.

[@VeeStripe]

Okay! So! I agree with your first hottest take about the respawn timer, it's a bit disheartening to finally finish off someone in a prowler 1km away, and see them pull another one seconds later. As for the VS being "overpowered". As someone who has a char on each faction, I think the reason why people consider VS powerful is because they have a combo that compliments players who don't know how to "fight" their guns. I'm talking about fire rate + very low recoil. Simply put, VS guns actually shoot where you point and do it very fast, while TR and ESPECIALLY NC guns need some adjustments or controlled bursts when you shoot. As for my hot take: Assists should count as 0.5 kill. There's been a ton of times when I pumped someone full of lead and a stray bullet from someone else finished my target off (and vice versa) and it's disheartening when it happens over and over, makes some missions and auraxing a tedious grind.

[@MosesGovCRota-hr1vh]

Sick editing, with that vanguard hit marker thing

[@dantalien6591]

How do you have your vision so far away(from gun)? When i play i allways have to have my gun stuck to my head at least that how it looks like for me.

[@andreasmaurstad7227]

have you turned your graphics down or have they worsened since last i played?

[@xzond494]

No ADS while cloak would feel really clunky, and honestly not really change that much anyways, I've used the Anti-material rifles a ton recently and being able to 1-shot head shot as an engineer without cloaking abilities still doesn't have that much down side, even when fighting in infantry only battles. So removing ADS from cloak would probably leave infils to cloak less due to the clunky feel and use the cloak as a repositioning tool (which is the real strength of stealth anyways) resulting in a pretty low impact change except for the players who've used cloak for many years and have muscle memory or newer players who can't understand why it feels clunky. Vehicle cooldowns on spawn already exists its just really short. If you've ever spawned a vehicle and lost it immediately you know there's a brief 15ish second cooldown. Also, vehicles die really easily unless the pilot is skilled and has proper repairs or isn't facing uneven odds (1v3 or so on). Adding a long timer would hurt newer players who don't have that experience built up yet. And would give players less time to practice riskier plays. Maybe make the cooldown be relevant to the amount of certs installed on a given vehicle. The more upgraded the longer the cooldown. Lastly, if you were to add a respawn timer similar to Battlefield then the power level should also be increased for those vehicles. If you've ever played against a really good helicopter pilot in a public battlefield lobby you know how hard they are to deal with and how often they will top frag. That's only possible due to the high frequency of flares, durability to small arms fire, and extreme maneuverability. Imagine a MBT with a 5 minute respawn timer after death, all it takes is 2 C4 and a rocklet burst from a suicide Light Assaults and suddenly you're waiting 5 minutes to play. Now give the MBT adaptive armor that has a 10 second cooldown that makes it laser down any projectile shots and disarm C4, while it baseline accelerates x% faster, with the ability to destroy cover, and receive repair x% quicker. Then it becomes more on par with Battlefield vehicles. That's all to not mention the fewer frequency of vehicles present of a Battlefield lobby at one time. One or two MBTs in lobby and that's about it, but they are able to kill 7 to 15 infantry each over and over until they finally get ganged up on.

[@avaliantsoul5408]

One of the problems with cloakers not being able to ADS is that it would push most cloakers, except the best snipers, to run SMG Cloaki Boi. So what you're actually going to end up with is fewer snipers (YAY!) but they're always going to seem like they never miss, so any sniper becomes a death sentence (AW!). Oh, and also, you're going to end up with EVEN MORE cloaked SMG shenanigans. Basically, as much as it may seem fair, its more likely to end up causing even more frustration. EDIT: as much as I like to meme about VS being easymode, the only VS specific thing I think might be even close to "overpowered" is the Magrider, due to its insane maneuverability. But I also know that most maggie players don't/can't take advantage of that. I do groan everytime I see a magrider in some otherwise inaccessible location.

[@Tiwey]

just magrider things. but their timely demise is to come due to inexplainable physical boundaries

[@Kev-A]

Please give us armor players something to do at bases other than kill the enemy Sunderer.

[@UBik0013]

you can shoot the silo, it only takes 80ish shots to kill one.. xD (spent 2 lightnings full of ammo to solo kill a silo.. )

[@smokey9376]

What if orbital strikes didn't kill anyone but instead were strictly a giant lingering emp. Huds, vehicle movement and any class abilities.

[@mikebond3210]

It would be cool, I love emp, but I think orbital strikes look pretty and shouldn't be completely removed from the game, but they should be harder to use

[@smokey9376]

@@mikebond3210 keep the visual but put a minute long emp deadzone down. Vehicles don't die but are extremely vulnerable and wouldn't be able to move just shoot. Infantry lose shields and can't use class abilities like aoe heal/shield on medic, overshield on heavy, ivis on infil, jet packs light assault and turrets and deployable on engineer. Instead of wiping out a push or base you would be making them vulnerable instead and still have to act to take the enemy out.

[@anupew3276]

I am not sure about force multiplyer respawn time. I get what you mean by having cooldown as a reward for those who killed vehicle, but the insta respawn is also a reward - one for surviving in a vehicle long enought that you accumulate points to buy a new one. You can finetune how many nanites you need to spawn another one and how fast they regen (can you spawn 2 sunderers at a time? 2 MBTs? Will MBT drain 90% of max nanites?) Also dont forget that system isnt only about spawning vehicles for yourself, even if you implement cooldown, you can still have other players spawn vehicle you then co-pilot. Infilrators - I understand it seems unfair, but to be honest I think infiltrators have it harder than in most of snipers in other games. Snipers with 1-shot kill mechanics are in most of games, but: 1) bullet drop, many games dont have that at all or give you tools to quickly and accurately set for a range. Second - Planetside is faster and more chaotic than most other games. Both of theese makes it harder to hit with sniper in PS than in other games. Third - kill cam. Other games you can find a nice distant spot and start raining bullets, in PS you have to relocate basically after each kill because your victim know where you are and can go hunt you specifically.

[@bigpapastalin601]

Genuine question tho, if I win buttons like OS's like you said are unhealthy then how healthy is vanguard shield.

[@fpsdecimal]

camikaze the next "youtuber" turned lead dev

[@statebriga5163]

Good video Cami. On a completely unrelated note, how was he able to hide the ugly Auraxium flowing camo of the Butcher around 5 minutes in the video where he was using it? I love the gun but I hate to use it because of the flowing red blob look it has over it, but in the video at 5 mins his Butcher doesn't have that, looks like a regular CARV. I tried putting camo on it, even Black Camo from the directive, and I still get that ugly flowing blob look to it. What am I missing? How does one make the Butcher look like a CARV color-wise?

[@xzond494]

Hot take, solo-fits or solo outfits (or small outfits) need more low level usage, and ways to farm resources. BUT also need less access to larger more expensive and impactful powers. No more solo-fits orbitals. No more solo-fits bastions. No more solo-fits citadel shields. More solo-fits ability to farm for nanite discounts for bases. More solo-fits ability to use anvil drops. More solo-fits ability to get their name on construction bases. Where as larger outfits, zergfits, or organized platoons, get more access to greater high level powers. More usage for steel rain instead of spawn beacons. More Colossus tanks. More Bastions. (although less air-to ground cancer spam, and more base capture impacts, like vehicle spawn lockouts of affected bases, increased enemy nanite costs of affected bases, even could be a flash-bang or concussion round or something) More Construction super-weapons. Like orbitals or flail. (Only made via-outfit resources AND cortium, requiring double investment. Thus incentive to destroy and attack as well as defend) More smaller citadel shields. (But have certain health from all angles of attack not just the vulnerable top). And the list can go on. Be creative.

[@xzond494]

Hot take, make a "page down" vehicle lock-out for squad/platoon only, that ALSO keeps driver privilege's locked. Or make a lock-out option for individual seats. (I always thought there was one, but I don't know how). If you deploy a stealth sundy, locking it is awesome to prevent blown cover. If you pull a harasser or Lib locking is great for solo play. If you have a crew of 2-3 friends you're stuck with squad/platoon lock only. But guess what, if you all jump out to repair, then get attacked and everyone jumps in, odds are that you the former driver are now gunning. Which is fine. But if your former gunner doesn't realize they are the captain now, more often than not you die.

[@vbiscuita3718]

100% agreed with your maximum spice takes: I'd say the VS have the worst guns and NC have the best choice of guns. High damage low ROF weapons are highly underrated in this game, but in the right hands with a high skilled player, they can pack a big punch

[@Tiwey]

noone talks about the magrider and its issues with terrain. i mean it is its biggest upside but its biggest downside aswell. and now since the perhelion is nerfed, you cannot use your strength effectifely

[@jktucb7495]

And remember! When heavy triple taps you while having shield on - is balanced, he is doing his job as frontliner and you should "git gud noob". But when heavy is getting sniped for standing still or running on straight line - it is fundamental game flaw and must be fixed ASAP!

[@quixmith]

the construction system that you are explaining is pretty sweet. The idea where you can "adjust" a bases flow with construction parts would be pretty neat, and have each faction with some minor differences can cause some fights to be different at each base. I really like that idea a lot, and that's only because I used to like the way bases felt. Once the construction system was changed, I no longer like it at all. It actually turned me away from construction, but made me more interested in infantry play. Mind you perhaps that's a good change? I'm no longer only playing engineer now, and trying light assault / heavy assault. Besides I think there might be some people who like that change, and actually encouraged some players to try out construction.

[@xzond494]

Hot take, starting a base cap as a solo infiltrator immediately following another cap ruins the lattice system. If you've ever been in a large fight that finishes for a brief moment between spawn waves then went to start the capture again only to find out the base supporting base has been contested due to one or two people that then place spawn beacons, routers, and hack all your terminals for the fight to then be one-sided in favor of the one or two people who started it resulting in a bunch of confused and helpless random players at the first base. You know what I mean. There is something to be said about logistics and organized play, and that needs to be respected. However, when the front of combat really didn't shift (i.e. 96+vs96+ remains on map), but instead was forcibly shifted due to a momentary lapse in contesting that's the issue. I wish that back-capping was more preventable aside from sending your own one or two infiltrators to deal with the others prior to it becoming a huge momentum shift. Maybe, outfits or command chat could have an activatable contesting blocker available to them for an alert for strategic guarantees of combat. (this could even require construction bases Cortium supply!) For example, "X Outfit Declares Assault on The Crown" preventing the adjoining bases from being contested without X number of players on the site." Something along those lines. That way the fight at The Crown stays at the Crown until all the Sunderers, Routers, Spawn Beacons, Valkyries, Galaxies, or so on were dealt with OR the timer runs out.

[@kevincuevas8877]

Maybe pocket orbitals and other artillery options could be balanced by say decreasing the barrage accuracy so that its not exactly on mark, longer cooldowns and activations so they are more a strategic asset instead of spammable click to win nuke. Another option would be to make vehicle armor and skyshields more protective but that could upend other balances

[@famulanrevengeance3044]

17:00 Yes, when looking at the stats, NC and TR weapons looks better, but VS weapons having no recoil and no bullet drop is very important for the average player. They're way more consistent to use and DO NOT deal less damage because they are more accurate = more (head)shots hit = more damage. Only for the best players is the trade off worth it, recoil for damage.

[@DaxMarko]

That mild spice for infils unable to ADS while cloaked should be dragon's chili pepper amount of spice. Because you as infiltrator, has to position yourself, aim, calculate bullet drop-off, hold breath, uncloak, squeeze a shot, cloak. And do that every single time you want to shoot. We really don't need to make the class more tedious to play. If you want my hot take, we should disallow infiltrators to cloak if they have a sniper rifle or revolver. Or make cloak easier to see if player has those weapons equipped. Ability to be invisible and instantly kill is textbook overpowered. Take Spy from Team Fortress 2 as example, he has to approach and attack from behind to instantly kill, plus his cloak works a lot slower. That I would say is more balanced and forces player to make smarter engagements, instead of sit in one spot and click people.

[@pascall0]

-Planetside's territories should be much larger, featuring more objectives for different domains of play: Do remember that the vehicles in this game are more powerful than infantry. so if you have points to be capped by 12 tanks they will clean 12 infantry, 12 air will do the same. This sentiment is amazing, and i wish to see the same, with the following question raised front and center: how? -Pocket orbital Strikes are bad for the game. They were added as a anti-max option and now they are abused. yea we saw that coming. Do keep the construction ones though. -infils should not be able to ads while cloaked That, or remove the cloak ability if you equip a sniper. the SMG/shotty cloaker is in a lot more danger, so imo that is fine -One shot kill weapons should be incredibly unforgiving in their nature Tell that to the NC... imo this is common sense: got a gun that can 1-shot kill? well make sure you fucking hit! -the construction systems should have only been supplementary to developer made bases Yea, hi, construction main here. imma shoot you in PS2 for it. "I have had *some* good fights involving the updated construction system" Have you also seen the vehicles plinking away at a base from a distance? You don’t *get* a "good fight" cuz everybody is firing at it from a fucking distance. Making this system change to the one you suggest: "each base would have a set number of modules (predetermined wall modules, turrets or secondary spawn) you can build with cortium" would change the system to be more passive. and the "logistics players" will be doing it less often that construction was happening before the Fortification update! Just half the fucking no-con zones and let me build checkpoints everywhere dammit! -planetside's sandbox nature, is one of its biggest downfalls Touch this, you kill the game (by turning it into FPS shooter #2456 on steam) -Respawn timers should return to all force multipliers on death. Ok, it sounds good on paper. but making the MBTs, libs and gals only able to be pulled from specific places is a timer in and of its own. You would have to add a minutes long timer to it Don’t you compare this to battlefield, ya ****. You forget that these battlefield vehicle mains *hog* the spawns of these limited vehicles and go so far as to *teamkill you if you take their spot* I dont want that in PS2 in the slightest -the vs as a faction...are not overpowered. No, they are the weakest, imo. I'm a TR main and i can’t think of many VS toys that piss me off. I can think of many NC ones tho! "the only thing alert wins prove, is the competency of the players on that faction in playing to the alert meta" On Miller, the VS win not cuz they competent, but cuz they zerg most fights (you know who you are). would not call that competent -heavy assaults are not overpowered they are a bitch to fight, probly cuz its played by very good players (good player + char with more survivability = compound success)

[@HateMachinist]

I think pocket-orbs should be cheaper, but only be usable in hexes with high enemy overpop or extremely high vehicle presence. Once presence or pop reaches a certain threshold, the "underdog" get an "orbital strikes have been authorized" notification. I think this could be a functional way to break up zergs and overpops.

[@masteroutlier]

non-lethal orbital strikes could find their niche in the game. Spreading out or even pulling/pushing forces in a controlled manner would be useful in many situations, not only for gamers but for the game itself

[@senturian]

Which faction performs the best is way more dependent simply on which faction the best players and outfits gravitate to, and that depends on server and night of the week and so on. The best example of this is from a couple of months ago: Emerald Vanu had an outfit who made some remarks that pissed some of its other outfits off, and they proceeded to faction swap for a few weeks. This caused Emerald Vanu to go from being the most breezy and relaxing to play on usually to being mostly a nightmare for that time. The point being that it has always been good players clustering together that has created the real imbalances much more than any imbalances inherent in the game's design. Vanu just has a legacy of having drawn many of the best players to it back many years ago.

[@Dzimko-rc2io]

I'm afraid to ask but don't you think we have such legacy because, for example, 1 gun which doesn't have main downside its weapon class usually has? And this gun is already meta even without this bonus... It's also available on class often enjoyed by vets. Do you honestly think this is unrelated and vets just love purple? Starting from jun 1 2022 VS has 41% victories during prime time across all servers - facts don't care about opinions I play few other games with PVP and majority of sweats usually use meta armor and weapons even if it only gives them miniscule advantage. I personally do the same.

[@senturian]

@@Dzimko-rc2io if your question is, do i think that the way betel was designed contributed to the distribution of ps2's best players over the years, then yes, absolutely. but the fact that which things were OP at what times is important -- it doesn't necessarily imply anything about any item being currently OP. my personal pet theory is that the ZOE debacle back a million years ago was a bigger contributing factor to when this distribution of the best players emerged

[@chowjappa6470]

Sounds like it needs generous scout cloak detection of some sort in-game. As far as cloaked and shooting, holographic scopes wouldn't be affected. But would be beat to see on any gun with an iron sight

[@jeffreym64]

I agree with all the points in this video to be frank. One point I wanted to highlight is about Force multiplier Respawn timers. Yes, these need to return, the one difference I think I would make though is to increase the time based on how many upgrade slots are filled and what rank they are. You can pull Multipliers sooner if they are stock, otherwise they take longer etc. It would be up to the devs to work out the exacts obviously. If they do return though, outfit orbitals would have to leave at the same time with the devastating effect they have, on Maxes especially. But Outfit orbitals need to get yeeted regardless. I'll add in my own hot takes. Sniper Rifles and Battle Rifles should take significantly higher bullet flinch when ADS'ing. Most Scout rifles feel like ADS-specific SMGs so I dont feel a need to include them necessarily. Carapace should not be compatible with the medic class. UBGL, Rocket Launcher, and Heavy weapon ammo should not resupply from Ammo dropped from Engineers. and ofc, Medkits should be reworked or removed altogether. They devalue the Medic class imho.

[@Dudisfludis]

Hey Cami, don’t know if you remember talking about the cloak with me but I thought I’d ask about clarifying that sniper ADS cloak idea. Are you suggesting that as soon as an infiltrator presses F to get out of cloak, they should be able to ADS, even though the cloak is somewhat gradual in appearing? Also, agree with the spicy takes. I should make a video or two including those =)

[@georgepal9154]

Yes, I think he's just saying you can't prefire or ADS while cloaked. You can't have the shot lined up. It's immediately after you uncloak that you can ADS. What I would tack on to that is that your hipfire-to-ads transition needs to line up perfectly with your scope or optic coming into view, so no insta-scope click and unscope. That would make things remarkably fairer and raise the skill ceiling loads.

[@mobiusknight3401]

I agree with your take on adding more objectives in hexes to spread population out. I think that those objectives should be, at minimum, 2 additional capture points relatively far outside of the typical base. Make these external points the new silo points and now there's a good use for construction to facilitate an open-field battle that a lot of us have been missing from the game. It also helps against the redeployside meta a bit by ensuring that a hex cannot be fully secured unless the base point(s) AND the external open-field points are secured, so redeploying and flooding a single point room isn't going to be enough; you need to push out of the base. I think this keeps the systems of the game pretty much the same while changing up the meta a lot more. I also think capture the flag bases can be kept in the game but the way they're captured should be changed. One of my outfit members had an idea of taking the flag to a captured repository and as long as the flag is in your faction's repo, the capture timer on the base continues to go forward. I thought about it some more, and I think repos could still be hacked between the fighting forces, and defenders will need to secure the flag in their own captured repo to push the timer back in their favor. Once the timer is done, the base is defended, or captured, depending on who had the flag in their repo. The back and forth within the base would be pretty interesting to see, especially if the flag runner gets killed and now you essentially have a capture point getting dropped in any part of the base, changing where the focus of the fighting needs to be. It could be a really cool dynamic to watch. I'm just worried that the fight will take too long to capture or defend. I also haven't really thought about how the flag will be returned to its starting position, if ever, during an active battle. Maybe it'll only reset when the base is fully captured or defended.

[@Balshazar]

What kind of continent would players like to see added to the game? For me I agree with your first point, the territories should be larger and more complex in build to allow for a balance of infantry, air, and vehicle combat, with slight variations in the balance for each territory. I'd like to see less decorative foliage on the map because Oshur is a lag festival for this reason.

[@totalunconcern]

I think the problem with heavies too stems from the sandbox nature, most leetfits playing just heavy (with 2 medics) and medkit chugging-zigzagging combined with weird connections.

[@ToaArcan]

I'm fully with you on the Outfit OS thing. Even when they're being used tactically, they're bullshit. I'm talking about those situations where a base is about to fall and the defenders are about to make a last-ditch effort to rush point. Maybe it's a MAX crash, maybe everyone's tapped out on nanites and they're just going full zerg rush and praying for the best. And then the attackers just dump three consecutive outfit nukes and keep them pinned in the spawn room until the timer runs down. Is this smart use of a tool? Yes. Is it still a terrible thing to have in-game? Yes. It's especially common at bases with open-air points like Indar Comm, and for whatever reason NC seem to do it the most (Probably because NC generally has more solofits, which means more randos with nukes in their back pocket). And it's even worse now that MAXes can't be rezzed. Say what you will about MAX balance, but a means of instantly permakilling multiple MAXes at once by right-clicking a map is not something that should exist. I also hard agree with the whole "No ADS while cloaked" for snipers. The one thing I will say on vehicle respawn timers is that this game has a bunch of weird little niche situations where chainpulling is kinda... necessary. The big one I can think of being Bastion attacks. When you see a swarm of ESFs attacking a Bastion, most of them aren't being flown by dedicated pilots. They're being flown by mostly infantry mains who aren't particularly good at being pilots. Large airballs + Unskilled pilots + chaos = a lot of friendly ram deaths. I don't really like flying in PS2. I only really do it for transportation purposes, and while I like doing that, as soon as combat starts I tend to not enjoy it. So I generally stay out of the skies as much as possible, unless we've got a big fuckin' boat to kill. My Long-Range Fast Travel, Mid-Range Fast Travel, and Boathunter ESF loadouts are basically the only ones I use. And I basically don't chainpull aside from in situations where it's a vehicle-only objective, and being in a vehicle is the only way to realistically engage. Another hard agree for your take on VS' power.

[@SoundTracx]

I'm a simple man, I see dots on the map I right click them. Bonus checks forever

[@shinkartz2636]

Great video as always, although for people who have played this game for years until now, these takes have spiciness level of mayonaisse. I hope that many newer players will take these to heart

[@ajneuschwander8928]

As a VS main, THANK YOU

[@GeneralPeragorn]

I do find it funny that two of his spiciest hot takes were "The game is balanced quite well actually" re: VS and HAs

[@Romoslayer]

I agree with you on heavies, i wouldnt say they are broken as i have beaten many heavies in 1v1 or 1v2 situations as a light assault main. Aim is the biggest factor but i will say there are times where i lose because they have an extra shield but it definitely is not the deciding factor

[@gaothegenet]

Hot Take: You can complain in the same way about every class exactly as you did with infil, they all have strong positive points, but they also have negative points that balance those out, infiltrators being able to aim while cloaked, well it makes sense in on itself, but, as someone that plays this game with 200 ping, is absolutely necessary, I die a lot, like a lot, i don't kill a lot of people on 1 life, because i have to constantly lead my shots even if i'm in the enemies face, so no i don't think it's too broken, beyond needing to be able to aim well to hit close up snipes, there's a lot of factors around it. Construction system: It was better before, I basically just build when i'm not doing quests, as the system is now, with the modules, it is not good my guy, Me alone, with my ping, and my dog shit ass skills, can get inside a base alone as an infiltrator, and destroy it, unless there's a bunch of people constantly in the base, the base stands no chance, they need to re add AI MODULES and pain spires, to stop this from happening. Zerging bases: It's how the game was designed dude, a lot of people in a big map, fighting, if a huge portion of those people, choose to go to the same base, there's nothing they can do, what will they do fam ? but a barrier around a base if X players are inside it ? that would be garbage, think through these problems. You're thinking about these issues as someone that is good at the game, has no lag, no ping, and knows the game very well, you're proposing certain changes without liking them, or taking a huge part in them, HOWEVER, i do agree that with maxes and big vehicles, it would feel more impactful if some changes were made, and that also applies to building, player made bases, coming from someone that builds them a lot, feel impactful for 5% of the time they are up, the other 95% they just sit there, doing nothing, but serving as a vehicle spawn or just as a pretty scenery thing, though we CAN build aggressively, players tend to not make use of what you can build like that, flails are basically to take out other bases since they removed the ability to shoot at bases, ipcs are useless, nukes are the most useful combat capability of a player base, and it's only every so often, a long often, the new command center is huge and fits very badly in the best spots to build, the new modules suck, you have to keep depositing cortium to maintain it, it's not easy and it's often, not that good, they changed it for the worse and they need to adjust it

[@TheZectorian]

The VS appreciate your understanding

[@TheFlyingAttackDogg]

you must get this footage together pretty fast lmao, that max i wass killed in was only like a day or two ago lol

[@InexorWoW]

I usually just play the game now a days to play knife stalker infiltrator or AM engineer since I enjoy those classes the most. Especially with ASP upgrades for engineer where I can have a capable sniper/AM rifle primary and shotgun secondary, but I feel like an ASP upgrade for infiltrator to make the stalker infiltrator build better would be nice. Infiltrator ASP upgrades are neigh worthless comparably.

[@skapunker1986]

Are you the Next "KZbinr" thats gonna replace Wrel? 1:13 , 1 hour after Wrel announces hes stepping down, Coincidence ?

[@superbrain3848]

i do agree with the cooldown on force Multiplier, but this might hurt the Construction system also it would open up the game for Griefing there will be players that will on purpose destroy friendly Force Multipliers just for "fun", this could cause entire Playermade structures fail rather fast. but yes, there are also people who use the Ant more Offensive.

[@grumpycup4762]

the VS thing is exactly what I've been thinking. "-- VS weapons are easier (slightly lol) to aim and there's no bullet-drop. So it's easy mode." 1: Bullet drop literally doesn't matter on the distances 99% of the fights take place over. It's a moot point. 2: The issue is that once you get past the initial hump of learning a weapon's recoil pattern etc. Then you're all of a sudden on the same playingfield. VS player picks up a Flare. NC player picks up a SAW. Both learn how to aim and play with their chosen weapon. VS player has an easier time and masters his weapons in 1 day. NC player has a tougher time due to recoil and it takes him 2 days to master the weapon. - Great. Now you have 2 players who are equally competent with their weapons, only that the NC guy's weapon does significantly more damage per shot. This is just an upfront thing to look at. Let's not even get into MBT's, snipers, or what Cami touched on; The "overall coverage" of the weapon-type selections. VS has significant gaps in many categories. I started out as TR and swapped to VS to play with my mates a while ago, and the difference was stark.

[@UltraFlea]

All great ideas which i mostly agree with save 1. The no aiming for cloaked snipers. Me personally i consider SMG cloakers worse than any kind of Sniper and Cloaker is my secondary class. With CQB bolt action like a Tsar etc your instantly dead if you miss a shot despite being slightly visible already since your in range. As an LA my primary cloakers with SMGs are the mini HAs and have much more lethality on the battlefield and that's me getting fed up trying lvl my SMGs as LA and switch cloaker to easy Auraxium them.

[@hadeshades2365]

A lot of the stuff that has been said about force multipliers could be fixed with logics and would give stuff like the construction system a good impact. Imagine you can’t pull a max from mobile spawns (sunderer) and bases have to be supplied via pipeline, (which can be sabotaged) in order to be able to pull force multipliers. This would automatically spread out fights. If you want to spread infantry, tank and air fights out they need stuff to do and while they do that, they shouldn’t be able to engage the other. All still should be able to partake still if they choose to. The balance should simply be that you make yourself an easy target if you do so. I imagine like the crown on indar to have strong aa and av guns were the infantry is fighting. Out in the open a bit more down hill (out of aa and av range) Are pipelines to sabotage. You can build bases right on top of the spots you need to sabotage. There you will need tanks and aircraft to guard the base and the weak spot. The attackers would need to bring their own logistics up to use force multipliers. Please let’s discuss this idea. Greetings Kendoka2

[@ShivayaLmao]

my hot take: Infiltrators should be reworked fully, cloaks need to go and something else can come instead. Stalker cloak can stay as it's not as oppressive ability. (Personal radar, usable RC drones which can hack turrets/terminals/shoot emp nades or decoy). They can use SMGs, Carbines and Shotguns only Make sniper a specific different class itself with "recon" or "marksman" name and give it ability to put down spawn becons which can spawn upto 10 players and ability to have thermal vision which highlights infantry across render distance to them allowing them to find targets easily. They can only use sniper rifle and scout rifles. Rework Heavy Assaults to have demeter veil available across all factions. Remove Adrenaline/nanomesh shields and keep Resist Shield only. Let HA have option to have self shield or provide it to everyone around him. I think both classes are toxic and only contribute to self mostly, demeter veil is a really good new ability which players can use to be more useful for their team if they aren't good aimers themselves. Infiltrators are toxic classes as a whole and cloak is horrible (always had been)

[@BoatSniper49]

Here's a super spicy take: Outfits need a member cap.

[@horisonkhang9245]

here mine: everyone has to start as NSO mercenary until they reach BR 10 / 20! before they can choose a faction!! XD they are easy to play but not overpowered for highly skilled player, and there will be tons of them to balance the population!

[@Fateherald]

Going into this, expecting something along the lines of "Remove maxes, remove X vehicle being annoying and make it impossible from people to not get to the next base via jumppad from the previous one". Mild spice: Ok yea you got me with the bit on expecting vehicle hate. I agree that objectives need more space, the only issue with this is that small pops suffer with having to cover a lot of ground in the off hours. Maybe better segmentation during unstable. Cloakers are annoying, sure, but infils lack meaningful depth beyond emps and recon. A guy who is simply good at holding a sightline so his team can move up separates the bad spooks from the good and in my opinion shouldn't be infringed upon when it comes to skillful gameplay. Cloak overall doesn't have meaningful use except as a combat ability, infiltration is often circumvented by long ass gen timers or anvils when hacking a vehicle terminal, established frontlines are not going to shift just because of one infil that he couldn't do from the front or back of it. For example, the spy from TF2 has a role in which he needs to operate from the back or needs to disrupt enemy movement or support, IE, he's really good at harassing engineers and one stabbing bigger classes and this requires him to be in the back. Infil doesn't have any objectives like that. No engineer to sap, no heavy back to stab, anything done from the back can be done with or without cloak; tldr it needs more than just a nerf, needs a rework in what the class is supposed to be doing. Medium spice: Ehhh, shotguns and snipers already feel like this imo. You either hit and body the guy and it's great or you mess up and die. The power balance is that both weapons oft work at extremes. I feel like the weapons don't need tuning to the point where it's more miserable to use but to have better established counters. Construction already feels like a supplementary system imo, nothing can force a player to attack a base anymore, it's all perceived value of the constructed base. The issue is that they don't really do much of anything except look pretty and give a lightshow every 4 minutes. I'm not for a system that makes attacking a dev made base even harder because at least with player bases you can decon the walls with explosives. But more methods for external bases to support the internal base would be neat. Spawning vehicles is fine and all but what if the various modules that outfits can put on a hex more or less for free, had to be run through a base in the same hex instead? Boom, more player interaction. The current system feels far more tedious than it's worth for builders with no defenses, it honestly feels easier to attack a base than it does to defend one now but that's a benched convo for another time. Sandbox yes, is annoying at times. However if we were to have it something down to like starcraft mechanics where a lot of the power comes from proper deployment of resources and managing the entire army's economy with every single player being it's own commander means that one faction can lose hardest with very little to comeback with if players are unwilling to cooperate. It was very present when tech plants were required to make MBTs and that's very minor considering how many other vehicles players could make. So yes, sandbox is annoying but having heavier commitment to player driven resources means that an entire empire can lose if the players play poorly which considering people have locked progression within a faction does not seem fun at all. Maximum spice: Respawn timers....eh. That feels more like a med or min spice. Some people agree but would prefer the tradeoff of having a more powerful and impactful vehicle, others would feel as if that's pointless because another guy can just pull a tank for you. Overall as a take it's generic tbh. I mean, it could be a thing but it'd probably affect how many people can throw buses at tanks until they realize you need to kill the tanks first. VS have their own thing as does everyone, feels like that entire sections just a baittake. Heavy isn't overpowered, just oppressive. Let's take an example, two players fight 1v1 with exact same weapons, same amount of skill and aim involved; no shit the one with 450 extra HP is going to win because you are taking even trades. The best way to fight a heavy entrenched in a building who knows how to aim is as well, a heavy who is going into the building who knows how to aim. It's the same obnoxious better player counter classing that infils have, where the best way to kill or counter an infil is with another infil the only thing that people like to perceive that's different about that scenario is that you can see the heavy. Is the shield stronger than reviving people? No, not really. Is it stronger than coming out of cloak and doming someone? Probably not. Getting on a roof and picking people off? Maybe(to be fair, jump glitch still exists so you can have the best of both). Repairing a max? Most likely not. But it's one of those things that doesn't really have a gap or clear counter to the playstyle beyond moving slower while active which just makes heavies want to stay in buildings; so it supports the trench warfare stagnation that planetsiders oh so often complain about. It also doesn't help when the best advice that anyone new starting the game is often to just always headshot the other heavy like he isn't going to try and do the same. It's fine to have a class that's tanky and can hold a space, but the heavy's current iteration along with other class mechanics in the game has often been one of it's greatest failings.

[@cyberdsrswitch4658]

my hot take: The game should have some advertisment and campaigns to get new people on the game. some form of recruitment of new players to enlarge player counts would be great.

[@aidennaerion4576]

^^ This We need more players, but we also need to remove OS or they would quit immediately

[@LunaStarFire]

My take on player made bases. Instead of the main labs we should reshuffle the maps and make a minning node in the heart of every empire. These drills will empower your empires network with cortium. To keep my description shorter FST = Faction specific thing = MBTs / ESFs / MAXs When your faction has its default amount of bases nothing happens beyond you now have an ability to accrue cortium which can be used to summon FSTs When your faction has more than its default amount of bases you will no longer accrue Cortium by default, if you want FSTs you have to supply cortium to the network as you no longer auto accrue it. When your faction is losing bases this means you have surplus cortium, meaning you can summon more FSTs AND your bases defenses start to develop a shield over them and possibly quicker respawn timers when its really low. The standard weapons for base building still hold true but these are purely defensive tools when you get super close to an enemy factions base just giving the defenders more chance to defend their capital. THe logic of this is that as one faction becomes dominant it makes the others stronger while the faction thats getting hammered has more tools to defend itself. It basically applies that the bigger your terriory the harder it is to supply the front lines with what it needs while having a smaller front line makes it easier to move needed resources to the area. If you want to build to reinforce the base you can, but when your side is losing you no longer need to mine to expand it, the surplus in cortium will refill quick enough that you can spend more time fighting, meanwhile if you want to do a heavy push with MBTS, ESFs etc to an enemy base that is already getting dominated well youll need to mine that cortium yourself.

[@trloyalsoldiernotatraitor]

1. Bases being bigger and having additional points for e.g. vehicles like A on Crown is something Planetside should have slowly evolved over last years indeed (but in the mentioned case with more cover and obstacles). These can be used with assets we already have, just place. This cannot forget about any sort of 'HESH/banshee farmers'. Sunderers need to be (in)directly buffed to provide those additional spawn points (better resistance vs vehicle damage when deployed?) - but actually they will be by more assets being placed. 2. Pocket Orbital Strike ---> Orbital Ion EMP (or other type of strike that causes some obstruction but not OP dmg and mortal push). E.g. smaller dmg to everything(except construction?), shield obstruction, repair obstruction, movement slow (effects cannot last too long!) etc. - there are other things than damage. MAYBE something interesting that I didn't think of is there? (e.g. it still pushes infantry (and does it stronger?) but they get the 'safefall effect' that dropping from Galaxy gives - I think that's funny effect) I feel other points less important and I don't have that much to say

[@UBik0013]

okay here is my hot take.. the only gun you need on your sundy is cobalt (the stock gun) upgraded all the way it has no competition

[@newIrons]

My hot take: I'd move most of the A2G to the liberator and valkyrie and keep the esf as the primary A2A vehicle.

[@Alpha1598753]

For my hot take : C4 should be / or be more sensitive to flak airburst or general AOE weapon Invisible kamikaze flashes are the lowest effort I've seen to delete the skill part of a kill vs a tank or Collossus Same for ESF C4 ramming, but as least you have to know how to fly to pull it off in a way no ammount of AA can stop it, still it offer nigh 0 counter play if you're not in open terrain If you're willing to drive/fly with a bomb straped on the front of the vehicle you better have the risk of suffering an instant kill from even small arm fire or explosions in return of a guaranteed a kill

[@matchesburn]

"Invisible kamikaze flashes are the lowest effort I've seen to delete the skill part of a kill vs a tank or Collossus" Agreed. They removed the cortium-powered cloak on the ANT because "people were just using it to low-effort kill" and yet... they kept the cloak Flash around despite it being even more annoying and low-effort and cheap. Baffling.

[@WretchedEgg528]

Big maps are bad when there's not enough players. It's gonna be the war of the infiltrators. Other than that, spot on. Heavies are poop, they're not op. They need to be either a little tankier or to have special implants. I imagine giving them 2 second delay before death when their hp reaches 0 would be fair if it would take an implant slot and a utility slot (utility being an injector similar to medkit, giving the ability to delay death for 1 second if your hp reaches 0 during its time and the implant being the same, but non-conditional and adding to the time of the injector). Or maybe they should resurrect with full shield and hp every time idk.

[@kobydesmond6455]

I'm a vs main on connery and i never thought the vs were overpowered

[@Timoruz]

What if these external objectives were also areas where players could build?

[@gunfumaster1024]

Death cam shouldn't exist. It used to be that if they were spotted, they'd get a death cam, and if they weren't they'd show you the general area. Death cam discourages good positioning. LMGs need to handle worse but have better long range fire capabilities. Heavy barrel weapons shouldn't have more recoil than their assault rifle counterparts, and they also shouldn't handle just as well. I know very few people that can whip around a 249 like it weighs 5lbs. It should be far slower for ESFs to transition from VTOL to regular flight and back. Hover fighting is stupid, and this change will also have the balance between AA power and air power will be more stable, since the ESF will have to either hover around slowly and risk taking a rocket, or have limited time on target with boom and zoom attacks. Sure you might lose "uniqueness" but just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good. I might add some more, feel free to disagree with me and change my mind.

[@flashtirade]

Regarding the very first point about territory sizes: an incredibly straightforward (but might require polish afterwards) solution would be to just merge existing territories together. Facilities could be combined with their satellite bases, and other outposts could be grouped together (for example, the Amerish triangle) or left on their own to leave room for smaller scale fights. Regarding the VS not being OP: correct, it's all player skill. More specifically, it's more skilled/coordinated players flocking to the same faction than the others. There's nothing outrageous about the VS arsenal (besides the infinite-ammo guns), in fact I think it's a bit underwhelming or outright garbage at times. Looking at you, carbines. Regarding the heavy assault not being OP: I think the problem stems not from the class not being too powerful in the grand scheme of things, but more the fact that the meta focus on close-quarters infantry engagements turns it into the most common solution. Not being able to effectively maintain or counter vehicles, not being able to heal/revive others, not being able to scout or disrupt enemy positions, not being able to attack from unexpected angles, none of these downsides matter when the question is usually one hostile standing at the business end of your gun and the answer is always to murder them quickly before they get you.

[@zacattack32441]

The infinite ammo guns dont give the advantage you think they do. Yes there is a higher uptime, but really, if you compare the uptime from the Beetlegeuse to the Godsaw, the Godsaw, while having a crazy long reload, is significantly less likely to get caught with its pants down since it has the 100 round mag. As for the VS arsenal most of their guns tend to just be average. Yes there are the very band and very good guns, but the VS have fewer of those. For example, most of the Vanu LMG's are fine, and only the Orion really stands above the rest.

[@efraim3364]

im 100% with you on pocket Orbitals

[@xzond494]

Hot take, spawn beacons, routers and Valkyrie drops are too overpowered when combined. Coordinated attacks with near indestructible spawns often require 60%+ overpop to deal with from uncoordinated defense and in some cases even coordinated defense (In my experience). Player skill should be rewarded, however, having impenetrable defense on a capture point due to nearly un-killable offensive spawns is not player skill, it is abuse of the indestructible capture point buildings and cover. Additionally this strategy renders Medics less fragile as the base attacker despite being extremely crucial to kill as the team attempting to retake their base. Spawn beacons used to restrict it to the squad leader only. Now anyone can. (I don't recall if passing squad leader was a way circumvent the old way or not). However, the addition of routers and Valkyrie essentially means there is little reason to need slow and vulnerable Sunderers. (This only applies to smaller conflicts, which is where Valkyrie are primarily utilized however, the balance is too in favor of the team droping on the site first). Maybe limit the number of routers a faction can have active at one time. (would be hard to not have greifing). Or limit the amount of spawns a router can have, same thing with spawn beacons. Even with say 12 spawns available on a spawn beacon, it would be rotated often enough to never reach that limit, however, by adding a cooldown to a spawn beacon's spawn, that would limit respawns to a trickle. Giving more reason to use Steel Rain, and give re-takers an opportunity to re-gain ground. Since spawn beacons are vulnerable as an individual object (a few bullets or a knife) with a glaring glowing laser. It only makes sense they stay strong right? However, all it takes is a quick placement, and boom everyone dead is flying back down, and someone is placing another one. Making this strategy as a whole not very vulnerable. Of course landing players are not guaranteed to make it safely into the capture building, however, more often than not a medic can revive them 3 or 4 times until they make it back in and are once again holding the point. Valkyrie, suicide crashes to deploy these mobile spawn logistics are very common, and make using galaxies a thing of the past most often. So perhaps Valkyrie should have more incentive to stay airborne. Perhaps giving players who eject from a Valkyrie a temporary over shield AND fall damage immunity, would be enough to give pilots a reason to keep flying for spawns instead of ditching them. There could even be an upgrade that repairs the Valkyrie for each transport assist the pilot earns while there squad kills infantry after being deployed. That would help keep the otherwise flimsy vehicle alive. (I do understand that the Valkyrie can often be very tanky given the right terrain and piloting, but the point would be to incentivize using a vehicular spawn system instead of focusing on infantry deployed spawn beacons or routers, and provide the defending team something to fight towards similar to sunderers, where as the current situation that the capture point is also the attackers spawn point). Any vehicle can serve as a way for an infantry to start this impenetrable spawn. Valkyrie, Stealth flashes, suicide harassers, ESF with fall protection (be that Safe Fall Implant, or the parachute ESF upgrade) are the fastest though. I don't know how to nerf the current meta other than putting a timer on when mobile spawn beacons can be used after ejecting from vehicles or even after being placed. Although that solution would just require x amount of time of for-thought from the placing infantry, and in longer periods would almost be guaranteed to be an infiltrator. If spawn beacons required 2 minutes to "ready" it would make them essentially useless. If it took 30seconds it borders on impractical and useless yet anything less than 10 seconds and it starts to become overpowered, especially in replacing a recently killed one. Many times while playing in harassers if you die while repairing your squamate who survives can replace a beacon, and you can airdrop back into or near the harasser and kill the enemy who killed you and then repair and drive away. While it is fun to use, it sucks to have happen to you.

[@siper5542]

First my love

[@porten1277]

My thought on your takes: 1. Sounds okay... but maybe just as a centre base? I would for sure limit these kind of bases to a handfull per continent 2. PoS need to go. 100% 3. Dont have an opinion on CQC-Bolters, i rarely suffer from them, but others seem to hate em... 4. Pumps are fine. No need to change. 5. Hell no cami, that sounds awfull! 6. / 7. I dont think this is the right aproach. The way to fix this problem is to make anti-vehicle more fun, i have no problem fighting MrX in his 4 chain-pulled ESFs if i am having fun doint it. The problem isnt that MrX has 4 ESFs, the problem is that his ESF is stronger that me and still he can dictate the engagements. 8. I agree with my whole heart, but please nerf the Darkstar. (I play VS) 9. I agree with my whole heart. Heavy may win a 1v1, but Medics win the battle.

[@hurrdurr3615]

The last point of medium spice about force multipliers is definitely not unfixable or baked into the game. Just getting rid of all discounts, nanite boosts, and cost reduction modules alltogether would already greatly improve things. Also very surprised about the VS being OP hot take. I didnt know anyone thought that VS was OP. Must be a very Emerald-centric take.

[@xzond494]

My hot take, Infantry Medkit should have nanites cost increased, or slow player movement when used, or cooldown added. However, it would be interesting to see more options given to players who want a solution to the soloist survivability problems. What if instead of selecting grenades or flak armor as an infantry they could select an auto heal that procs when hurt below a given health. This would cost nanites and fit the fantasy while providing more choice, than the current one of Medkits vs C4. Other hot take, Liberators are too fragile/too big of a target. If you've ever fought a good lib crew this is a stupid hot take. However, learning to fly, bomb, or simply exist in one of these is extremely unforgiving. They cost as much as an MBT, but the amount of aggro you get when you appear at a base is far greater. I've had friends join PS2 and spend all their certs into these and when ever we play they want to use them. But as soon as we get in a fight with 24+ players its nearly guaranteed to be shot at with a Burster Max hiding in the spawn room within the first or second or two of showing up. If that doesn't happen an ESF is bound to strike. Or beep beep beep, a lock on from some random dude in the mountains. Or in most cases, all three. Sure a well placed Dalton shot or hyena spam can solve the ESF problem. But if you fail to kill 1 ESF (or often times 2 or 3) you lose 450 nanites, they get 2-3 kills and all it took was one player in an ESF. That's the equivalent of a lightning tank killing a full MBT in a 1v1, (very possible given better position and ambushing the MBT, but far less common given the restrictions of terrain and often third parties). Solution could be to nerf liberators threat levels. Making them deal less damage but decrease their cost or provide them with a few more tools to keep them in the air and not on the ground perpetually repaired or dead. Or liberators could have their size reduced by a small margin to provide a smaller target. I personally love playing anti-air, but being on the receiving end of the many options of anti-air makes for an awful gameplay experience.

[@Slithy]

kamikaze78 for new lead game designer KEKW

[@MrTBSC]

-what i would change about PS2 ? Adjust infantry/Maxx vs vehicle vs air-ballance so that infantry can have a better presence outside of bases and be a part of a vehiclecolumn, also give a reason to open up bases more .. - offer a greater range of reconoptions across the board - rework aircontrols to be more accesible - maybe rework ESF to only have one weapon but specialized to its purpose - adjust XP progress that is about damage dealt instead of kills with infantry .. this is already exists with air and vehicle deterence, why that isn´t part of infantryplay when supresive fire is a common tactic, i don´t understand .. - expand ASP, current options are too mundane

[@defaultv.7959]

Light Assault and C4. I think they shouldn't come with 2 bricks, a launcher, and the ability of flight at the same time. Light Assault's sheer speed and evasion allows it to out perform any other class (and the Lightning) in fully destroying vehicles when combined with its anti vehicle tools. I'd cut it down to 1 brick (for that class only) or make the C4 share the same slot as the launcher.

[@jlbman1887]

I think the thing with not being able to ads while cloaked is a good idea and for the most part so is everything else in the video

[@cristinmarius]

Heavy is OP in it's easiness to use and damage output. Press key for overshield and it gives you the most HP infantry wise. Plus it can use most types of weapons classes which others don't have access to natively.

[@younglingslayer6517]

LMGs are the hardest class of automatic weapons to use and have less damage output compared to ARs and carbines

[@dxhunter9170]

I do like when people say this because, whenever I look up my sessions on Honu My highest KD is almost always against heavies. Heavies are probably one of the easiest classes to fight 1v1, they are so incredibly slow with overshield on, landing hs on them is child's play

[@revan1202]

1st Needs to incorporate the hives for construction bases to take territory the hex it's built in and one hex from it, pretty much remove CP mode and CTF mode let us use construction to take territory finer details can be worked out but it would spread Objectives and people around the map instead of focused on gal dropping a platoon onto small room points. 2nd I agree with pockets they need to go and be reworked as squad and platoon abilities only and only work with construction having an area influence same with flail and glaive they need to be something that players build to help their faction use as a tool for leaders to put to use. Remove pockets and darts it should be left to squad leaders to use. 3rd YES but actually all the classes need a revemp I'm not a fan of push button and ability goes approach this is a team game abilities should reflect that more. Heavies should have three different shields a hovering forward shield for pushing a bubble shield for team which both under heavy fire go down except the last one which would be a harder shield but the only weapon would be your pistol aka a riot swat shield all of which need to spin up and active and can't be deactivate until they run their time. 4th yeah 5th Na I would rather they get rid of the no deploy zone our devs are not good at building bases, that's a fact I would rather they fix terrain and leave bases to the community. 6th There are several core issues and we had solutions but it's ignored, resources are unlimited and bases do not use any to keep an attack going or a defense from failing it's truly the individual players own nanites instead of the bases supply lines. Not only that it's our capture mechanics you even complain about it. We using systems not designed around 100 vs 100 and instead of using construction to build aka our flags and sticking them in territory it goes back to defending small room bases that you need to drop 100 people onto to take. You can't just take a hill across and start taking territory behind enemy lines you are forced to crash a small space to take a whole plot of land. 7th I was fine with that before the changes but now the vehicles and max suits are worthless if you return that the vehicle needs to be a threat right now if any tank or max bothers me I have no trouble destroying it. 8th it's really how each one is lead so yeah 9th not much to say

[@cosmokramer9139]

Here's a few: 1. There needs to be consumables that help squad/platoon mates. Like when Merit points used to be able to buy exp/nanite boosts, but instead, they have things that increase everybody's exp equally across the board without the 50% bonus to the activator, it should just be 5% across the board, or Merit could be exchanged to buy green or blue outfit resources. 2. Squad leaders should be able to make a trail for their squad to follow that lasts 1-2 minutes, making it easier to show a directed path to spawning players on how to leave the spawn room instead of "zerg braining" to the chokepoints. 3. They should at least update cosmetics on console for revenue sake. 4. Underwater construction should be a thing. 5. Oshur should have a hovering central base, and underwater entrances to Tridents.

[@zacattack32441]

Squad and platoon leaders can draw on the map. On the right side of the map screen, in the area where you can look at pop and choose filters, the bottom button is a drawing tool. It can be set to Personal, or Squad (and platoon I think but I'm not 100% on that one.)

[@cosmokramer9139]

@@zacattack32441 forgot PC had that

[@KATCHUSHI]

Vehicle/force multiplier isn't good for new players. I remember every time I pulled an ESF back then it got destroyed in like under one minute after leaving the Warpgate, especially because of freaking TR that hunted everything that is in the sky, even if its the farthest away possible from their territory.

[@Gyallarhorn1]

I think it might work if you give players, on top of Nanites, some kind of stock ressource for each vehicle. Let's say you have 3 Stocks max for heavy tanks and one stock replenishes within five minutes. You can instantly spawn three heavy tanks in a row, but after the third one, you'd be pretty much on a five minute CD. That way new players can spawn vehicles a few times to practice, before they would be on cool down. Then again... that's basically already what Nanites do.

[@KATCHUSHI]

@@Gyallarhorn1 Sounds like a good idea, at least for me.

[@OCaptainMercaptan]

I am so glad you think VS are not OP, and you laid out why perfectly.

[@Dewderonomy]

My take: Nano-Armor Cloak should be removed completely. A rogue-class shouldn't have a tank buff/ability in any game, particularly one that can be mixed with cloaking/flanking benefits.

[@xzond494]

Hot take, Construction should be used to fuel a greater power to the factions. Similar to how it used to give victory points during Alerts. But this time, make it fuel the Bastion Fleet Carriers. Orbital Strikes (pocket ones) Or an activatable faction wide regen ability. Or a Nanite discount on vehicles faction wide, or a max discount, or a faction wide fire rate buff. Of course these buffs would HAVE to be short in duration. Make it like a 15 second regen, or 10 second fire rate buff. That way outfit leaders and coordinated players can have cool moments and strategic advantage when necessary. While also giving non-coordinated players cool moments or incentives towards play styles temporarily (in the case of a x-minute long vehicle discount). These buffs/powers are limitless in creativity here. These buffs would give construction players an additional purpose. Build bases that house cortium, defend the cortium, and beam it back to the Warpgate for fueling these buffs. Along side the current purpose of, Build a base that gives vehicle spawns, or players spawn, or slows down opposing foot or vehicle zergs, or in the worst case, gets abandoned and unused. Additionally, it would give opposing factions a reason to fight and attack them. There would need to be a required balance of the system limiting the number of bases that can fuel said buffs at a time. This could be based on player count, command chat count (would require x number of minimum players in each squad to avoid a bunch of small squad leading to artificially increasing output). Or could even be like old-school Command and Conquer Super Weapons. Where after being constructed it is announced, revealed, and a timer is placed on screen of all players and is limited to 1 per faction. That way opposing players can coordinate to assault it and make a moment out of it for the defenders. This would also give teams winning in the alert in terms of territory control additional pressure to attack the bases of losing teams, opening up attackers boarders to be attacked. Or incentivizing losing factions to build as a way to get ahead. Or incentivizing double teaming winners bases to avoid total annihilation. The point is it breaks up the sole objective being that of territory control, to also including player bases as more than their current iteration as speed bumps or spawns. (Eventually a meta will develop that either ignores bases, last second airdrop suicides them, or it becomes more important than territory for x% amount of time of the alert, but at least it changes the current meta and gives developers some data on how to improve the systems rather than what just happened that basically re-vamped buildings for no reason other than making it more of a spectacle). Of course, if a faction doesn't have base builders online, while the others do that is where the greatest issue of the last victory point iteration exists. That's where a control would be required. Perhaps it is a unique alert that allows it. Or even requires X number of dedicated players from each faction to approve and remain active for the duration in order to trigger it. (To prevent trolls, or alt accounts to trigger it unfairly). Although currently Bastion Fleet Carriers and Orbital Strikes exist with no balance/consent from opposing factions, aside from the 1 Bastion Fleet Carrier rule. No system is perfect and there would always be players who hate the alert and log off similar to how Oshur effects the game currently, but the power level and impact of the construction would be key in determining how detrimental haters are when it happens. If you make the global buffs weak, it goes unnoticed and underutilized, and ignored. Make it too powerful and suddenly losers quit and the game can't function. In either case, something has to be done to make construction relevant, should it continue to be the developers priority. (Also aware of the fact that old alert's used to provide discounts and buffs, which resulted in very un-fair gameplay, I always remember hating playing when one faction would have Max discounts).

[@imagine1st381]

My main problem with ps2 is just the amount of armor and air people can pull, it should be hard locked like one every 30mins or a certain amount can enter per map or something, but then certain tanks can still sit outside of a map on a hill and shoot half a map away. The cost of nanite can be so low due to winning previous continent discount, discount module, also I think membership has discount or faster nanite regen, making it that it feels like people can just perma be in an armor if they want. I could be wrong with this since I rarely ever touches armor/aircraft. It's just not fun for infantry when in a crowded map you get surrounded by armor/air and getting sniped from half across the map.. non stop. And even if you do destroy some of them, big IF, they can insta just spawn another one and come back. Especially after player can just build one that cost cortium, basically cost nothing and no restriction of spawning it.

[@imagine1st381]

Also, forgot to mention some of the daily missions are terrible for new players, I know for experienced players they have unlimited certs and iso-4, for example I don't ever bother doing the dailies on my Br94 character, but for new players to get started they need those certs, and a lot of these missions has been reworked (and got worse) that it's either repetitive and boring, or just new players straight up cannot do. I started a new character on emerald due to connery constantly being underpopped, tried to do certain missions like get 3 kills on specific weapons, it'll ask me to "get 3 kills on masamune, or tomoe etc" which I either don't have certs to buy or saving it for class specific upgrades. The class specific missions are enjoyable for me personally since I can play different class and completely those pretty quickly in general. The most cancerous of all is surveying the land, they reworked it that standing near a capture points after it has already been capped by your faction no longer grant you xp towards the mission, so you'd have to be quick enough to get to the point before it's been capped. Problem is, a lot of the time when I spawn into a map I'm ALWAY too late to get there, or there's too many people on the point that I'll only get 1/35 capture xp completed for the mission. The other day I think it took about 5 hours+ for me to complete it, that I almost gave up completely. I'm not sure if daybreak intented to make dailies cancer so new players who want ot progress faster feel the need to get membership or daybreak cash, but if thats true then I suppose I can understand

[@miguelelliesen7628]

do the devs watch planetside content creators and include their thoughts in future updates?

[@justinnoland7887]

hey camikaze did you hear that wrel is quiting soon :(

[@joogleplus6244]

HA, for me, are by far the most annoying class to fight. The moments (frequent enough, I might add) when an HA survives with a tiny bit of health and you know they would've been dead without the shield just grind my gears. Infiltrators are probably more powerful in the grand sceme of things but they don't annoy me nearly as much as HAs. It doesn't help that HAs also have great weapons.

[@flexx.2122]

Hot take: Sniper rifles should never have been the default for infils, at all. Not semi-auto; not bolt-action. Instead, SMG should be the default weapon class. My reasoning is the following: Every other class does what it says on the tim - HAs are durable shock trooper units; LAs are an agile flanker class; medics... heal; engies do repair and vehicles 'n stuff; MAXes are big. Logically, the Infiltrator should be a slippery ambusher class, getting behind enemy lines, providing intel, and harrassing the enemy. But a sniper Infil is usually just a long-range recon and fire support class. It just isn't right. Also, regarding your suggestion to nerf cloak: It might even be worth considering just outright making Cloak and Sniper rifles mutually exclusive. The problem is clearly the combination of Cloak and Sniper (bolt-action in particular), so they should be separated. Another point: Disabling ADS on snipers might have some adverse effects on SMG and Stalker infils, especially the latter. Missing a critical pistol shot is much more unforgiving than missing a sniper shot, because a sniper can simply disengage, which a Stalker can't necesarily, by virtue of being much closer to the enemy. A possible amendment to the "disable ADS" solution: Disable it on all but Stalker cloak.