My review of Fr. James Martin’s new documentary

[@bestpossibleworld2091]

I am an Evangelical pastor. We have our own set of problems but I really appreciated your rebuttal of Fr. Martin's not-so-subtle false teaching. I will pray for you and the true Catholic Church to prevail in this struggle.

[@sjappiyah4071]

Fellow Evangelical here, well put

[@Flying-Roro]

Thanks brother. The truth of the Gospel should not perish, regardless of Protestant or Catholic.

[@joantreadway7557]

Thank you!

[@husq48]

​@@byzantineJesusLov3RI knew this was coming...🙄

[@kamilziemian995]

I have a problem with you statement. There is only one true Church. There is no true Catholic Church or false Catholic Church, like there is no true Evangelical Church or false Evangelical Church. There is true Church of Christ and false Church. We cannot forget about that.

[@jeandoten1510]

As a divorced Catholic I have been living a chaste single life for over twenty years. I 'm not complaining about my status, it's my choice to accept the loneliness and self discipline because it is the way that I acknowledge the eternal nature of the sacrament of matrimony. Maybe I'm missing something, but I have never personally seen any indication in any parish or diocese of emotional support or compassion or concern for Catholics in my position. Yes, God sees those of us who are still married in the eyes of the church but we don't get to stand proud at the diocesan silver anniversary celebrations, and it does get lonely. I have compassion for all people in and out of the church who suffer from this kind of isolation, and I would like to challenge the church to do a better job at being aware of and reaching out with loving social and physical interaction to those who for whatever reason are neither called to the religious or the married state.

[@fredphilippi8388]

I have utter compassion for you. But ... what is missing from your life is WHAT YOU THINK. You apparently are not thinking. I wish you were more of an adult so that you could make your own conscientious decisions. The Catholic Church has traditionally wanted adults to remain obedient little children. What a waste!

[@exerciserelax8719]

Thank you for speaking up about that! LGBT people are not the only ones who face a lifetime of singleness. I don't know the best way for the church to minister to people in that situation, but at the least it would be nice to see more recognition that there is a large group that doesn't fit into either married life or vocations.

[@veronica_._._._]

@@fredphilippi8388 Why are you shouting in at random strangers in comments again? Engage your frontal lobes, surely you are post 25 and your neurological development is now at its optimum.

[@robertajaycart3491]

I have been striving to live this chaste life to, but I will tell you, that their is no loneliness in it for me. I thank God every morning when I get up, I pray more, spend as much time acknowledging God or conversing with God on a daily basis, I strive for sanctification where ever I go, even when I go to work. Try to remember that the Holy Spirit lives in you, learn to be docile towards the Holy Spirit. The Scriptures say, we live and move and have our being in Christ, strive to do good for others, learn to take the focus off yourself and in your sufferings, strive to do the will of God.

[@robertajaycart3491]

@@fredphilippi8388 Striving for virtue, chastity etc. is not a waste, as we strive for these we conform more to Christ and the way all humans were intended to live before the fall of Adam and Eve fell into sin. The reward is heaven, not some earthly crown.

[@1026JMS]

“Evil always takes advantage of ambiguity.” - G.K. Chesterton

[@horebandemariam9989]

So does good no or anything for that matter

[@1026JMS]

@@horebandemariam9989 how does good takes advantage of ambiguity?

[@TheMobius011]

As the Venerable Bishop Fulton Sheen put it, "If you do not live what you believe, you will end up believing what you live"

[@ntmn8444]

Exactly!

[@thethreefriends3002]

He is brilliant!

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Pray for the Jesuits. We could all use your prayers, albeit for different reasons.

[@johnthecatholic914]

I live in Germany and at least here it is not a phenomenon specific to the SJ because i met Franciscans, benedictins and even dominicans with Public Positions against church teaching. Please pray for Germany Father

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

​@@johnthecatholic914 Ich werde es tun!

[@bigphilly7345]

I will, Father! And please pray for me.

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

​@@bigphilly7345 count on it!

[@catholiccrusaderdeusvult9949]

​@@FrJohnBrownSJ God Bless you father

[@ZekeMagnar]

How this man has not been excommunicated is beyond me. What's going on in the Catholic church that this would be allowed to play out for so long? My goodness. As Trent said, he's giving these poor kids false hope. He needs to be dealt with immediately, so that he can stop planting these destructive seeds in the hearts of those who may genuinely seek to follow Christ.

[@kelly4187]

The same with what's happening in Germany. The Vatican should parachute down and simply demand they bend the knee to the magisterium. If they do anything other than immediate, absolute and apologetic acquiescence, then they should all be excommunicated, stripped of position, committed to a life of penance and prayer scattered to monasteries around the world, and all replaced to a man with orthodox traditionalists. Oh wait, we have a Jesuit pope. No wonder Fr James Martin is allowed to spread his heresy.

[@richardcraig599]

not only excommunicated butPROMOTED by the pope himself because the "pope" is either A a heretic and not actually catholic B a naive old fool and the worst pope in history

[@robertcross9047]

I'll tell you why but you're probably going to cuck and get mad at me. It's because the church sided with the allies post ww2 on their multiracialist pro j wish propaganda. That is what opened all the doors to let in the modernist sickness you see today. The hatred of "racism" the notion that all races are equal etc. this leads to false ideas about reality which are a kind of "gateway drug" to all the other nonsense which is pushed in modern liberal society. You can choose to ignore this and continue to promote multiracialism, but you'll only be shooting yourself in the foot and destroy yourself by doing so. You were warned.

[@Felipe-sw8wp]

It all makes sense under the sedevacantist lens

[@commercialrealestatephilos605]

It’s pretty obvious. The Church is ran by homosexuals who want to change objective truth.

[@vrcarlos6955]

Thank you for this. I am dismayed that Fr. Martin is not corrected by his bishop. That tells me that there is a significant part of church hierarchy that want to change the moral theology given to us through scripture, natural law and the catechism of the Catholic church. Fr. Martin's message is leading many down the road to perdition. May the Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on us.

[@ghostapostle7225]

Or maybe too afraid of the backlash.

[@ireneusjustinpolicarp8628]

All this publicity/popularity of Fr. Martin, he will become bishop. A priest speaks the truth, he gets cancelled.

[@ultimateoriginalgod]

He doesn't have a bishop, he's a Jesuit.

[@rosarymanpio]

Jesus told the woman at the well, who had a life full of sexual sin, go and sin no more. We never hear this from James Martin

[@frozenpeasny]

We never hear it from Pope Francis either.

[@skippy8696]

That was the woman caught in adultery, not the woman at the well. Just saying.

[@princessc660]

@@frozenpeasnyyes we have search on google pope Francis say homosexuality is a sin

[@macbride33]

💯

[@cdeep4548]

I too was very upset when I found out it wasn’t okay to have sex before marriage, watch porn, masturbate and have desires to sleep with tons of women. I felt like I had to separate those things and leave my sexual deviant flag outside the church before I entered it. I felt so alienated from the church and so conflicted about who I was and who the church was asking me to be. The entitlement is beyond belief. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@roseg1333]

Yes this!

[@brianfarley926]

Yes i still struggle with some of these. If it was so easy to accept Gods will, everyone would be doing it. The narrow gate is hard

[@davidsnoek8686]

You believe masturbation is also sinfull before marriage?

[@brianfarley926]

@@davidsnoek8686 you’re not supposed to. In our society the amount of sexual temptation is pretty high so I imagine that’s one of the most confessed sins 😂 besides sexual relations before marriage

[@bobfisher6311]

@@davidsnoek8686 The Church teaches that it is sinful. Before, during or after marriage.

[@holographic_studios]

17:13 “Like Rey in Star Wars” Trent Horn, who has taken on some of the most daring and bold questions in the modern day, will now take on the next most vicious and controversial crowd: Star Wars fans.

[@jeremysmith7176]

Trent does hold a rather Orthodox opinion on this matter.

[@yourboieb4477]

Here's the thing that some heretics do to be sneaky and hide their real intentions and dissent: Confuse and distort the Church teaching, instead of explicitly denying it

[@mrman2415]

@YAJUN YUAN protestants manage to horrifically misinterpret the bible on a daily basis. Encouraging everyone to focus entirely on scripture will just lead to stupid people all going in separate directions and promoting nonsense.

[@AluminiumT6]

@YAJUN YUAN The Church is no mere "middleman", it is the Mystical Body of Christ. Cut the prot cringe. The Church is what guarantees the orthodoxy of biblical teaching, not your poor quality personal interpretation.

[@pete8684]

​@YAJUN YUAN Was the Bible not written by fallible men inspired by the Holy Spirit or was the Bible miraculously given to us by heaven? Looks like a middleman to me. Christ instituted a Church with the Holy Spirit working through fallible men to give testament to his one and true Church for all ages.

[@MegUSN52]

@YAJUN YUAN I agree with you. The problem that Christians have is that they listen to others rather than actually read the Bible for themselves, including the Hebrew Bible. I can’t ever understand how Catholics say that Peter is the father/founder of their church as it doesn’t state this in the N.T. anywhere. Peter was Jewish. In the N.T. it was Paul who brought Christianity to the Gentiles (Christians) not Peter. Peter preached to fellow Jews. I’m not against Catholics as my husband and his family are Catholic. And Protestants have their own share of sin in their churches. But I will say that my husband and his family rarely pick up their Bibles and read it for themselves. My husband will occasionally read it at work, but I’ve never seen him read it at home. And he doesn’t and won’t pray with me, unless I’m the one doing the praying. I will say that my husband does not believe in the Pope nor does he believe in the Rosary or praying through Mary and saints. So he doesn’t agree with everything Catholic just as I don’t agree with everything Protestant. I personally don’t believe any Christian denomination, including Catholics gets it 100% right. And really we shouldn’t be caught up in religion and church dogma anyway. God gives all of us believers the tools to discern what is right and wrong and He instructs us to be very careful of wolves in sheep’s clothing. I think that can be said for both Protestants and Catholics. In most Protestant churches, Fr. Martin would have already been excommunicated as he should be. I’ve not really watched many videos of The Counsel of Trent, but I will be watching more of his videos. Again, I’m not against Catholics or Catholicism. The first Gentiles were neither Catholic or Protestant. They were followers of Christ.

[@snookieg2409]

I knew what Fr. (it pains me to call him that) Martin was undermining the Church with his twisted interpretation of Church doctrine and leading people very likely to hell. But seeing that poor young man who was so confused just broke my heart, he knows the truth and he was looking for someone to help him hold to the straight and narrow and learn to live with and overcome same sex attraction. Unfortunately, he found Fr. Martin, did he look or sound like he was better for having found him? I know it was a short clip, but I thought that he still looked miserable and the evil teachings of Fr. Martin fighting against what the young man knows to be true is only making it worse. This is the first time I have seen Fr. Martin handiwork in human form, generally, these confused people would be kept away from him, you always see him surrounded by happy LGBTQ people. I can only think he wants to say, "this is what the Church is doing to the LGBTQ community", but that is not how I saw it. I knew he was slimy, but these clips really reveal just how devious and manipulative he is, I am no Church scholar or theologian, but those don't seem like proper characteristics for a priest or anyone in the Church hierarchy. It is a shame that so many in the Church support this man and his diabolical work. It almost seems like there are some, even quite high up, that will not be happy until every traditional teaching and dogma of the Church is destroyed and replaced with whatever the current social justice or politically correct nonsense is at the moment. I am so thankful that the priests in parish are very traditionally minded and just stick to the Bible, the catechism, and the saints. It is a sad state of affairs when priests like mine are not the massively overwhelming majority. Take a trip through the internet and it makes me think that, at this point, they may not even be in the majority at all! Thanks for reviewing this documentary, I will be saving my $3.99. Thank you also for being fair to Michael Voris, I know he can be polarizing, but if I had to choose to add to the church 100 more Fr. Martin 's or 100 more Michael's, I think the Church would fare much better with the Michael's.

[@thomasfolio7931]

The devil can influence more souls by fooling priests and Religious into teaching immorality or heresy. But God who is greater, can use a converted soul to win back the lost. So pray hard each day for priests and Religious like Fr. Martin that their hearts will be won back to our Lord.

[@snookieg2409]

@@thomasfolio7931 I absolutely do! I even pray for Nancy Pelosi and pres. Biden, can you even imagine the souls the could bring along on the straight and narrow if they had a genuine and profound conversion of heart? That would be awesome! I pray for all of the cowards and jellyfish like myself, too. In my small town in Kansas there were some protests today, as we drove by I wanted to yell back that I would be voting yes on the "value them both" amendment, but I kept quiet. I feel bad now. Honestly, I do wish I had more moral courage. I can talk openly about things with friends and family I disagree with, but not strangers. I just had to confess to spiritual laziness and spiritual cowardice around another issue. I guess identifying a problem is half the battle. To quote Dr. Phil: "you cannot change what you will not acknowledge". Anyway... Keep praying for our good priests, pray God will purge the bad ones, and in the end, we will have a stronger, more faithful Church, clergy and laity alike. 🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞🙏

[@hogandonahue9598]

Aaaah heresy. Super shocked he hasn't been excommunicated or something. Letting him continue seems damaging.

[@ccrisc100]

He said it himself. He is careful, he doesn't outright deny church teaching. on the other hand, it seems there is very little will from the higher ups to actually do something about it, as they also cloak in the "he's just reaching out pastorally" non sense

[@paulc7]

It's great that Voris was included as he's a living proof that this kind of immorality can be overcome. He undermines the documentary.

[@neil2831]

What??!! I didn’t know he was gay. I don’t watch church militant much, but I never would’ve guessed.

[@xoho3462]

Are there any 'former' lgbt who overcome it by living a single celibate life? And why are we not highlighting them? For one with deep seated tendencies like me it's very hard to imagine myself marrying a woman so a role model in that regard would be awesome.

[@xoho3462]

@Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus I don't mean to be proud of your defect and confess it to the world, but there is a significant difference in lifestyle for those who have / can pursue romantic interest and those who can't. It'd be great if the church would highlight SSA people who are pursuing celibacy, for us to know how they manage to live a holy life.

[@xoho3462]

@Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ok im just saying it'd be nice if i can find a celibate person who choose to be celibate because they don't want to indulge in their deep seated SSA. Not saying it needs to be shouted from the rooftop that they have SSA, but a person that is open with their struggle while being celibate would be really inspiring for people like me.

[@xoho3462]

@Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus 'you need to start being more disgusted about the vice'. We probably already have disdain of ssa and lust if we are trying to be celibate. And then what? Does our struggle suddenly disappear? We still need companionship and a community that can relate to us and our struggles.

[@bigphilly7345]

“Shooting At A Swinger’s Club” - Thank you, I now have a title for my crime novel. 😂 Seriously, Father Martin makes our church look like Congress - we’re all different “parties” and eventually one will “win” out with its views.

[@wallrusmoose2111]

That’s exactly what the want to do with the Catholic Church

[@andytheawesome7592]

There’s two “parties” in the Church: the proper believers and the heretics. The former will inevitably win because we have God on our side.

[@bigphilly7345]

@@andytheawesome7592 Follow my full analogy. I’m saying outsiders, non-Catholics, believe the Church is/should be like Congress where different parties debate to reach a “decision” on what is true rather than the Church being an institution that has always stood for one actual truth. We’re on the same side, dude.

[@andytheawesome7592]

@@bigphilly7345 I’m aware, I was just trying to extend on that, in saying that even if Fr. Martin’s view of the Church were accurate, his side will still lose.

[@kemmow25]

I would pay to see a father Martin vs father Mike schmit talk.

[@paulaaracena-sherck8154]

I would too!

[@ntmn8444]

Fr. Mike Schmitz is too nice. I want to see Bishop Barron or Trent Horn charitably put the man in his proverbial place.

[@Seliz463]

@@ntmn8444 father Mike Schmitz is quite kind and tactful, but don’t underestimate his ability to be incredibly incisive when he speaks out for truth. I’ve seen him be powerfully direct in various interviews and speeches. I have full faith that he’d be an ideal person to challenge father Martin in a public debate

[@SeekTruthBeloved]

I would pay to see Fr James Martin and Fr James Altman dispute their views on the Church teachings.

[@joantreadway7557]

​@@ntmn8444Father Mike may be nice but he doesn't hesitate to call sin a sin. He just does it with love & gentleness. That's why it would be so good.

[@cadeshuford6837]

Honestly, as someone who raised as an Evangelical Protestant, I've found that Catholics are often more understanding of my struggle with Homosexuality.

[@Juicedude502]

Well of course notice the priest and the things they do

[@LadyK007]

@@Juicedude502 🙄

[@MegUSN52]

I am not a Catholic, but my husband and his family are. They are very supportive of the LGBTQIA (and how many ever letters they keep adding). I am Protestant and I do not support LGTQIA. I can show love and compassion, but I do not support them because that would be wrong of me…just as they should call me out on my own sin. I should also state that my husband and his Catholic family also support abortion. I do not believe, based upon scriptures, that God makes mistakes. He would never make us something that goes against what He created us to be as told in Genesis. We are all given choices in life. We all sin. Jesus calls us to not live in the world (something I very much struggle with). I get told “what would Jesus do” and that Jesus hung out with sinners. True that Jesus hung out with sinners since all of us are sinners save for Him. But He wasn’t there having a party with them and condoning their behavior. Instead, He was leading them to Him and to turn away from their sin. I think this is becoming taught less and less. The Bible is very clear about being a lukewarm Christian. But with that being said, all of us should recognize that none of us are without sin (my sin may look different than your sin). I am commanded to love my neighbors. One thing that this gentleman said (sorry, I don’t know who he is) that really made me think is about sodomy and how heterosexuals also engage in it. So the ones of us that engage in that, we are no better than homosexuals. We are sinning as well. The world needs a lot more of Jesus and a lot less of self.

[@MegUSN52]

There is scandal and corruption in Protestant churches too. It’s not just a Catholic thing. Julie Royce exposes the corruption in churches in America and there is a lot of it. I would say us Protestants are on par with the Catholics.

[@cadeshuford6837]

@@MegUSN52 Thanks for your reply, I am sorry to hear that your husband’s family are in support of abortion, the catechism of the Catholic Church teaches against abortion, and homosexuality, and I believe the Holy Bible reaffirms that position: You’re right, we are all imperfect in this life, and yet It Is through Christ that we can become sanctified, and made right with him upon our deaths. ( I am also Protestant, though I am a Traditional Christian ) This gentleman is known as Trent Horn. I also affirm your position on LGBTQ+ Issues, not because I do not understand the desires, and distortions, but precisely because I do understand, I believe Christ’s mission Is to change us from our sin, not affirm that sin. I will pray for you, your husband, and his family.

[@amy9967]

Great review per usual, Trent. Insightful, clear, and charitable.

[@cyndichanou]

Thank you, Trent. Very much looking forward to reading your new book!

[@hardcorecatholic938]

This was great Trent. I always use the analogy of a health club under new management who tells the employees to advertise to basketball players to join, only the gym doesn't have courts and doesn't intend to. They just want to be welcoming to basketball players. It would be confusing and frustration for every party involved.

[@michaelschudel6706]

It’s really sad when people want to elevate themselves instead of letting Christ lead them. It’s not our Church. It’s Christ’s Church. He’s the head of the church. We are nothing without Christ.

[@jordand5732]

Right around 15:00 I have to agree with Trent. You can’t just throw the term heretic out there and expect that to be a positive attention grabber. Hollywood and indeed history unfortunately have both made that term sort of lack seriousness. In a world where up is down, people might be quick to back someone known as a heretic, so the term really doesn’t help. It’s also just better to explain yourself civilly and remain calm when conducting yourself.

[@pandzia9277]

I don't agree. Jesus ended up on the Cross for speaking the truth in a very straight manner, and He didn't mention we should only say the Truth the way it doesn't offend others. In fact, Jesus went on a Cross for His straightforward teachings & judgements. When we are reading the 10 Commandments, it's not sounding like an invitation: 'Please, would you be so kind and not kill?', or 'It would be very much appreciated if you could turn up at Mass on Sunday!', or 'Would you please not have sex outside marriage?' That's not God's language. If someone calls Fr Martin a heretic, they might not know the official regulation on the conditions of being a heretic, but it actually speaks volumes about the issue that was challenged. Let' s call sin a sin, and stop worrying about hurting other people's feelings. We might end up crucified by the mob, but at least we didn't compromise the truth!! And that aggressive way is the only way to make a change. Look where the Church is because Catholics are afraid of speaking. Mrs Pelosi goes to Communion because nobody will publicly call her out on it, she is not afraid, no Catholic will shame her. She would think twice before going to Communion if she knew she will be challenged.

[@jordand5732]

@@pandzia9277 your whole response seems like a strawman. Where did I argue for being silent or fake-polite or weak? All I said was the word heretic is useless for many reasons, and in some cases would actually cause a rallying effect because up is down in the world we live in. I also said/implied to tell the truth and argue with logic and not use words like heretic because again, it doesn’t help and actually hinders what you want to convey. The word heretic has to be used against people that genuinely seem to be catholic (which is not the case for father Martin, my opinion), so it doesn’t apply here either. Jesus did a whole lot, it doesn’t seem like his only strategy was to call people heretics. He had infinite tools and strategies that he utilized.

[@pandzia9277]

@@jordand5732 Hi Jordan, I have a different view on how people can / cannot behave in situations here discussed. I am not trying to attack you, I am just presenting my point of view. You prefer to remain calm when conducting yourself and behave civilly. I find 'calm' difficult, when people are so openly and without consequences violating Catholic laws, offending the Holy Spirit, and top it with calling themselves Catholics! I think they should be called out on their views, told reality of who they are, and this often is not a pleasant nor civil business. Like, if someone supports abortion. Are they killers, do they have blood on their hands? You can bit around the bush, explain the sin in polite terms. I just like things called by their name. Please, don't feel attacked. I'm just putting my view next to yours on the subject.

[@rhwinner]

I have had to change so much of myself to bring myself in conformity with God - it took 40 years and much suffering to finally achieve it. Not completely. There are still faults in me. But I know I can acknowledge them to God, repent of them and receive the Lord in a state of grace.

[@keagaming9837]

You've improved so much over these 40 years! Congrats! :D We're all trying to improve, I have a lot of flaws too sadly. D:

[@treewalker1070]

The young man at 25:06 moved me very much, in the way it seems God is trying to break through to him. And did anyone catch that at 26:40 he says, "There;s a little bit of doubt in my body"? He quickly corrects himself "in my mind," but I think "in my body" was very significant. It's not just a conflict of ideas in his head, but something happening much deeper.

[@joantreadway7557]

I agree & I think Trent is right when he saids its almost unfair. It is, this young man realizes in his soul that the gay lifestyle is contrary to the church. He understands sin can not to taken lightly. But when Father Martin says the church welcomes you in but does imply you don't have to quit sinning, it just adds to this young man's confusion. It probably makes him feel so lonely, not fully excepted in either group. We all have that one sin that we have difficulty avoiding. Wouldn't it be better to say come back, let us pray for you, with you. To tell him that it's not sinful to be tempted, we actually receive graces when we fight against temptation. And the graces we receive will in time make it easier to resist the temptations. We can give him hope by loving him with the sin, as Jesus does. Father Martin tries to give hope by ignoring the sin. That will never work.

[@brendamyc3057]

False mercy confirms a person in sin and allows a person to remain in darkness causing a deepening of their spiritual wounds and maladies. True mercy helps cure the soul and guides a person to true fulfillment and wholeness.

[@rhwinner]

Thank you for pointing out the wolves, Trent. Although we already know, it never hurts to repeat it.

[@ianb483]

In terms of ministry to the homosexual "community," I think it's worth pointing out that it was Michael Voris, not James Martin, who got Milo Yiannopolous to give up the gay lifestyle and return to the Church.

[@liraco_mx]

You are the martyr for having watched it. Thank you for your sacrifice. I hope you can complete the book and expose people like him. By his own words...

[@chrislussier7226]

This was really helpful. Thank you, Trent.

[@frederick3523]

Father Martin will never put himself into a situation where he'll be put into a position to be interrogated on his beliefs but it doesn't matter. He's already exposed himself for what he is and it's not going to stop until he's stopped by the hierarchy. But that's not happening any time soon

[@frumaatholoid]

He'd be made a bishop before he is disciplined.

[@oldfashioned9461]

Trent, just want to say I really appreciate your videos. They are always very articulate and thoroughly thought out. You speak directly yet charitably in criticism of Fr. James Martin. Thank you for your channel and insightful videos!

[@jordank5328]

Martin Scorsese produced this? That's a bummer. And of course the parts with Voris were more interesting, he's an interesting guy! Love me some Church Militant

[@ntmn8444]

I don’t like how he dances around the issue. That’s not from God. God speaks clearly, and he doesn’t mince words. He knows what he’s doing. My God! Also, Trent, any way you can do a review of Mass of the Ages? I’m interested in hearing what you have to say about that documentary’s claims.

[@nathanL22]

Trent, you are amazing. Praying for you. I would really enjoy reading that book!

[@daniefoostein5241]

We should pray for fr Martin to find humility. It’s a spiritual gift much needed in our world today.

[@estebanmoeller]

Trent folding his arms like James on the bookcover. Excellent review

[@beorbeorian150]

Started to read Father Elijah. It feels that Fr Martin and the media around him fits right in to the theme of the book.

[@vicgrefer]

Father Elijah is a FANTASTIC book

[@tomasbarsvary938]

Read all of Obriens books.

[@paulmacaree]

Fr martin’s welcome at the Holy See presents a terrible double standard. The Church teaches one thing but does another. Jesus repeatedly called out hypocrisy against the shepherds for his day, “do what they say but not what they do”.

[@roseg1333]

We need to call out hypocrites. We not to be afraid and not be soft but be the warriors/ knights our forefathers were

[@martinospitaletta8198]

The pope is the archhipocrishop. He is not calling church teaching wrong, but he promotes those who do, like Fr. Martin.

[@martinospitaletta8198]

@YAJUN YUANAnd the Highpriest is Kaiphoglio...

[@giuseppeciraulo6177]

Great review , Trent. as always thank you

[@Seliz463]

A lot of instances in this documentary are offering a very malformed definition of love as synonymous with “enabling.” Basically the old addicts cry of “loving and accepting me means celebrating my self destruction!” It’s not a new method. Go to any AA meeting down the street and you’ll hear a room full of people who admit how manipulative and self-deceived they used to be, and how they acted during interventions. And you’ll hear them say they’re so grateful their family and friends refused to tolerate their BS. We are not helping people by encouraging them to self harm. That will NEVER be the definition of love.

[@colleenmengel1337]

I learn so much from these podcasts; Trent reminds us of the very basics of our Catholic Faith and makes everything so crystal clear (to me). And, importantly, gives us the knowledge, understanding and language to be able to support our Catholic beliefs. I also believe sincerely that social media has indeed pummeled our young people with so many false beliefs that they are confused and questioning and heading down so many wrong roads.

[@maryreichelt3194]

Thank you Trent ! You did such a great job of explaining the doc…. Father James Martin is leading the young down a lonely a dark road…..

[@johnkeenan4976]

Thanks!

[@marymorris9982]

Thank you so much for the work you do

[@MrCheesywaffles]

Thanks for this. It's a tragic thing, false hopes of a middle ground between holiness and mortal sins. We are called to love God. We cannot call sin love and love God as he has taught us to.

[@lesmen4]

This is the reason why there needs to be proper screening for seminarians who want to be Catholic priest .

[@bobaphat3676]

lol many Seminaries are grounds for bad teaching.

[@jaqian]

They might start off fine and end up progressive

[@saintly365]

Thank you for your insight, Trent. I appreciate your commentary on these things.

[@gnomeresearch1666]

What would it take to be defrocked in this age?

[@ge7454]

Oh my Lord, this man is making so much damage to these souls... He is putting them in real danger, I don't know what to think of him, it is impossible that he doesn't know, he is on a personal quest to change Catholics' hearts and minds on this teaching. Really, we need to pray much.

[@josephmoya5098]

If souls are out in danger by Fr. Martin, they were already there. Martin is mostly putting himself in danger.

[@carlosvillarreal6743]

I'm a same sex attracted catholic man, I accept and believe in catholic teaching of chastity for us people with ssa, but I just find it very hard to live it. But I'm sure if I ever were to dismiss chastity and openly accept living a gay lifestyle, I'm 100% I would never be challenging nor demanding the Catholic Chuch to change its teaching to suit me. I would go to the episcopal church or any other pro-lgbt church. I love the Catholic Church too much to do this ridiculous I-want-the-Church-to-change-to-fit-me.

[@joantreadway7557]

We all have that one sin that we struggle with. It's not a sin to be tempted, the sin is when we give into temptation. Yours is a beautiful response & I will pray that your burden of temptation lightens. This life is short & God will help you through it. And once we get to the other side, all temptation will be gone & you will look upon the face of Christ & know that your former struggles are not blessings. You are a perfect child of God!

[@joantreadway7557]

I want to fix the last sentence of my response. It should be "Your struggles are now blessings" ❤

[@vonhalberstadt3590]

After a rosary protest out front of a church Fr. Martin was preaching at we went inside to listen. He had a Q&A session in note form at the end of his piece but his handlers sifted through the hand written notes to get softball questions. Slack. Orémus Y'all.

[@therese6447]

Totally agree with you Trent. We must uphold the Gospel. We are not perfect thank goodness for confession. Leaders in the Church and in "Catholic" schools must uphold the values and doctrines of the Church...the Truth of Christ...walk the walk and talk the talk. We all must love and obey Jesus instead of our own desires.

[@robertjosephkleist2004]

This. This is why when they wanted me to go to L.A. RE Congress where Rev. James Martin was an invited speaker I stayed home.

[@joelfrombethlehem]

In the first few minutes of Trent's review, I wanted to see this documentary but wanted to see how Trent handled it first. For me, this so-called *father* Martin brings back memories of the original New Ways Ministry of so-called *sister* Jeannine Gramick & so-called *father* Robert Nugent of the late 1970s & early 1980s. It's the same old, same old ambiguities and lies. The "Pass-on-this-one" moment came in the form of the clip showing Martin's homily where he said "our church" instead of the true "Jesus' Church." This is my 1st introduction to Martin and I'm wondering if he was ever in contact with New Ways Ministry or their publications in any way, shape, or form?

[@Summer-sx7xl]

I had a theology teacher who knew Fr. Martin well enough to call him Jim. That was a fun class.

[@TracyW-me8br]

Just wondering honestly, whose job is it to get Martin back in line and all the priests like him? Is it his Bishop? Is it Pope Francis? Is there an office that should be getting him back in line with Church teaching?

[@ntmn8444]

The problem is, he speaks so vaguely, they can’t really catch him, if you will. They need something substantial. Sucks but true!

[@TracyW-me8br]

@@ntmn8444 so frustrating…

[@TracyW-me8br]

@Patrick Reynolds Thank you, that’s a good explanation.

[@josephmoya5098]

@Patrick Reynolds If he refuses correction, he is a formal heretic, not a material heretic. A great cheeky way to explain the difference is, "Formal heresy is when you are a heretic and know it. Material heresy is every homily you've ever heard.'

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

@@ntmn8444 "Suggestive" speech is the worst kind of seductive deception. It preys on the weak, delusional and feeble minded. I like to say to people that we are always talking in a graveyard. We are never "just talking." Billions of minds are already ruined by the delusional fantasies of movies and TV. Most can't be fixed.

[@magnoliam4159]

Thank you, Trent. Great review.

[@HimekoIzayoi]

Something scary I noticed: At 30:46 you can see what I assume is James Martin's room. If you look at the wall, there is a Christ hanging, but with no cross. A Christ with no cross is a freemasonry symbol. Pray for Fr. James Martin. 🙏🙏

[@Nebuchadnezzar3]

Why isn't Fr Martin excommunicated already?

[@keagaming9837]

Unfortunately, much of the Catholic church is corrupt. Every day I see more and more Catholics support LGBTQ+ even though acting on homosexual thoughts is wrong and should never be accepted. I've met way more LGBTQ+ Catholics than LGBTQ+ Protestants. :/ We need to save the Catholic church.

[@agaphtos]

You know Trent, even though I have disagreements with you about Catholicism, I do respect your solid stance on this. And this respect has gone up even more seeing that you are not fearful of calling out others in the Catholic church. That being said, I would really like to know your opinion on Pope Francis encouraging Fr. James Martin in his L.G.B.T. ministry

[@akak8299]

Why is that priest still not excommunicated?

[@wg820]

I went to a talk by Fr. James Martin at old Saint Joseph in Philadelphia in 2015. My assessment is: as Charles Curran was to contraception so is James Martin is to ' LGBT' ideology. He did not mention chastity at all. He complained about the Catechism calling homosexual acts as intrinsically disordered. He mentioned 3 'gay friendly' bishops; Tobin of Newark, Cupich, and Farell. All 3 are recommendations by Theodore Mc Carrick.

[@michaelkeane8508]

Cupich is advising the Pope .It explains it all .MCCarrick was also close to the Pope .

[@frumaatholoid]

@12:04. Unfortunately this problem already exists within our church with the number of sexually active gay priests

[@ntmn8444]

There shouldn’t be any priests that are sexually active. Do you know of any? You should probably bring that up to your archdiocese because it shouldn’t be!

[@justforrfunnn]

So unfortunate 😢

[@owensclock]

I recently had a conversation with a lifelong Catholic man. I mentioned the renewed interest in the Latin mass. He said you can keep your Latin mass.. "I'll take today's kinder, gentle and more compassionate church, a church where all are welcome". True, all are welcome, but as Catholics are we free to mold and reshape the church into what WE want it to be as Fr. Martin seems to be suggesting.

[@thepaigeparker]

Yeah I was so disappointed getting that reaction about the Latin mass from people who are bilingual. Latin was our universal Mass language and a uniting factor for all Catholics. You could attend Mass anywhere in the world and know the responses and understand what was said (if you studied and paid attention at all during Mass in your home country).

[@locksmith9498]

Moulding the church as per heterodox teachings a la Fr. Martin = No, of course not. Accepting a mass as promulgated by the church, yes. I am Eastern Orthodox by the way. Our liturgies are far more ancient than anything in the West. Still , I would have to say that I find absolutely nothing wrong with the NO mass, if done reverently. Secondly, I know all too well the problems of not serving the liturgy in the vernacular. The Eastern Orthodox church is regional, national and ethnic. For several years now I have had to go to liturgies which I can't understand. This is a major problem for my 12 year old kid. And how could my Baptist wife ever be convinced of the truth of the historical church if she can not understand what is said, sung and/or prayed? The Catholic church is universal and it is necessary for all to understand. Only do it reverently and there's no problem at all. Latin is beautiful a nd all but beauty isn't everything. Take that advice from an Eastern Orthodox. God bless!

[@volusian95]

Ayy didn't know TFP was in this. Between them and Voris it's like the league of supervillians for libcaths.

[@criticalbruv]

Man. Can you please tour New Zealand? Come with your family and we will have beautiful Catholic families host you all across our nation and you can experience a beautiful holiday and do the Lord's work in our nation, feeding our Catholic believers.

[@jonahkattau1128]

My fiancee and I are going to New Zealand for our honeymoon. Are there any Catholic must see locations?

[@criticalbruv]

@@jonahkattau1128 St Patrick's Basilica is a Catholic church in the North Otago township of Oamaru The Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, Christchurch, And the others are not quite as magnificent. Both buildings designed by the same guy funnily enough. Otherwise not that I know of. I recommend going to visit Hobbiton. It's a real place. Based of LOTR by Catholic Author J.R Tolkien. That counts right?

[@roseg1333]

@@criticalbruv I say it counts 🥰

[@AJKPenguin]

St. Joseph's in Queenstown is a neat church. There is also the Jerusalem Mission on the Whanganui River. The replacement for Blessed Sacrament will not be finished until 2025. Unfortunately the former Cathedral structure had to be demolished (I now found this out, gosh even the ruins were Sacred and Beautiful when I paid respects in 2013) due to the damage it had sustained over 11 years ago.

[@roseg1333]

@YAJUN YUAN Do you jus go around sowing discord everywhere you go?

[@markpeter1968]

Great critique Trent. Fr JM isn't very subtle about his pro gay lifestyle

[@roseg1333]

I didn’t realize Voris was openly Gay or used to be. I mean the signs were all there but you never want to assume. also can we excommunicate Jim now please 🙏🏼🕊🙏🏼 he along with others is just making a mockery of our faith.

[@GiftofChaosStudio]

Martin is THE prime example of the false teachers who have infiltrated oir Church. "The smoke of Satan has seeped into the Church through it's cracks". Pope St. Paul VI.

[@crystellesaleh4800]

Trent, I’ve actually seen Father Martin put himself in a position to be challenged. You might want to watch that on KZbin. It’s interesting. He sat down with Ross Douthat. I’ll see if I can find the link or something.

[@Qwerty-jy9mj]

How Orthodox is Douthat? I read nation of heretics but his own views since then seem kind of defeatist and just not concerned with orthodoxy anymore

[@crystellesaleh4800]

Here is the link. It’s the conversation that’s hosted by America magazine. When I first converted I was surrounded by very progressive Catholics who recommended father Martin’s books to me etc. This conversation was one of the proverbial nails in his coffin for me, that sent me down the path to orthodoxy despite my liberal surroundings. This and the fact that in his book “A Jesuit Guide to Almost Everything”, he mentions the fact that he became out spoken about the LGBT issue AGAINST direct orders from his superiors not to, meaning he did so in disobedience. To me, this made me shut his book. Instinctively I knew even back then that a Jesuit acting against obedience could not be following the Holy Spirit’s guidance. Here’s the talk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5yxfXWsdt2koZI

[@crystellesaleh4800]

Qwerty honestly I don’t know, actually. I’ve read his book “Bad Religion” and I loved it, and seen a few interviews here and there. Apart from that I don’t know much about him. But I’m this talk he challenges Father Martin big time. Anyways what is great about the talk is Martin’s failure to respond well, and how revealing it is of his shadiness.

[@Jack-uo7gz]

Wow, props to them for actually bringing up Voris’ sexuality and letting him talk about it in his own words. It would’ve been so easy for them to just paint him as an evil, bigoted hetero.

[@bengoolie5197]

I believe it is St. Bernardine of Siena who tells us that the worst pains in all of hell are reserved for the Sudomites, because Sudumy violates not only the Divine law and the Moral law, but also the very Natural law, itself.

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense2350]

Pope Francis removes Bishop Strickland from his post for protecting Catholic beliefs. Fr. Martin teaches and supports literal heresy, nothing happens🤦🏻

[@angelamfranco3583]

The documentary should be call “The Little Ego of James Martin”

[@gateway6827]

Thanks for speaking on this Trent. Good Job.

[@Onniesprairiegarden]

The clapping at Mass and waving flag 😳 that straight up disturbed me.

[@delmanglicmot4342]

I pray for Fr. Martin for his conversion to love and make Jesus the center of his life.

[@mmurph2686]

The film is probably boring because it features the king of self-promotion. And self-promotion is just plain boring. I agree that Fr Bochansky would make the perfect antagonist, but Fr Martin would never give COURAGE a foothold in his world.

[@wg820]

At the end of the talk ,i asked some of the attendees if they had heard of the apostolate Courage. None of those I asked had done so. I explained that their mission was to help same sex attracted Catholics to live chastely. The typical response was "I think gay people should have sex."

[@eddieetw]

Please pray for someone I am close to who is acting on his homosexual desires. Pray that he finds God the Father’s love.

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

Next up: 'I like adultery so the church should change its teaching to support my preference and accept me as is.'

[@tommore8303]

Our church is love. Sanity and truth are necessary to the possibility of love. Thank you so much for your faithful, informed sanity in the face of the lunacy parade. And enough with the sodomy flags. True loving kindness cares about over a million dead young men in the west, over 700,000 in the US from the practice of sodomy. The church's message is love.

[@JoshJimenez_]

Thanks for this Trent

[@andonedave]

Fr James Martin saying Fr James Martin type things. He’s right on brand.

[@JustUsCrazyBoyz]

Can you have Michael Voris on this podcast? A dialogue between you two would be amazing!

[@itsgettingold]

I would be very interested in that conversation, debate or battle- whatever it turned into. Both men are knowledgeable and articulate but have quite different perspectives on how to respond to the crises in the Church.

[@johnperiera1036]

I'm 30 minutes into this and Trent hasn't mentioned Pope Francis' support for Fr. Martin. Wonder why.

[@justforrfunnn]

Interesting… I didn’t know that. I saw in an article Pope Francis said homosexuality is not a crime but he said “It is a sin, as is any sexual act outside of marriage” altho he should have also used the term sodomy especially since same sex marriage is legal in many places now. We definitely need to pray for Pope Francis and all priests

[@vinnyv949]

I think Michael Vortis and the tougher, more righteously indignant Catholics approach to combatting sin and modern errors as opposed the moderate modern pastoral approach, and the left wing just be kind approach of Father Martin is just as valid. We can’t forget there’s a long history of church Fathers and leaders getting fiery with their flock. I know we’ve become extremely soft in the modern world but there’s more than one way to proselytize and looking back to tradition is always a prudent approach.

[@Seliz463]

As much as our modern culture loves to vilify the tough love approach, the truth is that our human natures need it in some reasonable measure. We feel seen, cared about, and loved when we get the riot act read to us. Look at God in nearly the entire Old Testament, and the frequency of New Testament instances where Jesus boldly rebukes various people. Some of the harshest passages can actually be comforting to read depending on what we need in our lives at that moment. When we are disciplined, we know we are loved. But in todays world, discipline and punishment and stern expectations are dirty words. Yet we see how broken and longing we are for the firm authority of the Father. No rules and discipline=no one loves us. But instead of turning to God, we start begging for authoritarian regimes to enslave us “for our own good.” It’s so obvious and so broken.

[@efrenhern1536]

They should watch the film in Fatima about hell

[@h00sha]

This is fair. I've previously been critical of you, Trent, for being so hard on Fr. James. In my defense, however, I REFUSE to believe any negative comments about others until I've heard from those others myself. Prior to this video, I had only ever seen Fr. James' website about building bridges and his own video where he clearly doesn't refute Church teaching. But now, seeing him talk and the effect he has on others has led me to conclude that even though he is right about some things (particulary his criticism of ordinary catholics and their prejudicial focus on homosexuality while the MUCH worse problems of aldultery/common-law arrangements get a free pass), he is clearly wrong in his approach. It's a confusing message and, as such, is more harmful than helpful. Keep up the good work.

[@johnkhour5440]

Great video Trent, calling people to conversion, repentance and taking up the cross and following Christ

[@robertajaycart3491]

It's as simple as the nose on our faces, we all have crosses to bear. Father Martin doesn't want them to bear any cross.

[@blitzzkrieg1400]

Jimmy does not deserve to be a priest

[@shlamallama6433]

No one but Christ does, however by God's mercy some are, however some shouldn't be, like Fr. Martin.

[@zenuno6936]

He got the grace but caved to the world, like Judas.

[@shawnsmith4781]

Full disclosure I’m a protestant living in Italy I like your channel and I enjoy your perspective but in my view watching how much the Vatican supports the LGBT community is one of the biggest condemnations against Catholicism it seems to me by all biblical standards the church itself stands condemned.

[@hollandfamilyadventure]

I wish you were wrong

[@zarganon9594]

The church’s moral teachings remain consistent with the bible even if certain individuals within the church don’t. Most heresies started with priests, but they haven’t condemned the church’s legitimacy as Christ’s.

[@anng.4542]

What you yourself, like many of us, object to is absolutely NOT Catholic doctrine, but is being promoted by rebellious members of our ordained priesthood and hierarchy who should know better.

[@shawnsmith4781]

@@anng.4542 it’s the Vatican. The Vatican is Catholicism

[@shawnsmith4781]

@@zarganon9594 it’s the Vatican

[@nuffinman7104]

"Like Rey in Star Wars" BASED

[@NickFromDetroit]

Thanks, Trent, for watching it, so I don’t have to. God bless.

[@juice2307]

I’m getting McCarrick vibes from people calling him Jim…

[@lorenamazoy6577]

I do not agree with many things you say.,,but I do appreciate the way you say things. Very respectful.

[@glennrogers5568]

Anxiously awaiting the BOOK!

[@catholicfemininity2126]

With daily mass, daily rosary, getting the sacraments, wearing the miraculous medal and st. benedict and brown scapular, having a strong prayer and meditation life and spiritual reading.......... loving people is pretty easy because of all the grace, but when I'm feeling dry or I don't keep up my spiritual Catholic duties..... I find it easier to be angry and harder to be loving towards people like Fr. Martin or the people that want the Church to accept sin.

[@catholicfemininity2126]

Dryness is a serious test, it's when you do all the above but don't have that "feeling" or "spiritual euphoria high".....

[@kimfleury]

I'm not interested in that documentary. I started following Catholic priests on Twitter around 2010. I hadn't heard of the Rev. Fr. James Martin when Twitter suggested him to me. I followed with interest because I was trying to learn what the Catholic Church _really_ teaches. It wasn't long before I started questioning his tweets, and it didn't take long for him to block me. I had asked a sincere question in response to one of his tweets that seemed to me to contradicting Church teaching, but I guess it hit a nerve with him. At that time I didn't even understand why the Church calls some things "sins." Back then, I was still trying to figure out those issues involving "updating" the Church, when I was a "loose" Catholic (baptized, received the Sacraments as a child, but only went to Mass for funerals, and occasionally for Christmas or Easter, and always on Ash Wednesday), I was trying to understand why the Church is so adamant against [insert the "warm fuzzy nice love" sin]. I didn't even know if the Catholic Church was the True Church, or if there was one true religion. I don't recall what my question tweet to Fr. Martin was, but I do recall that it was in response to something he had tweeted that struck my "Catholic sense" as being way out of line with Church teaching --- and I was well aware that I didn't know what the Church teaches or why! That should tell you just how "off" his statements are. If he can strike a disharmonious chord in someone who isn't even fully connected to the Church, and is only barely aware of the consistencies throughout all the Scriptures, then you know his theology is far, far away from the Gospel. I think I do have to give him credit for pointing me to the truth, though. If he had answered my tweeted question, if he hadn't blocked me, it wouldn't have sparked the intense desire to seek deeper into Church teaching. But by blocking me, it set off just the right kind of dissonance to urge me on in my search. "Seek and ye shall find. Knock, and the door will be opened." Praise be Jesus, He is faithful to His promises.