My Shelby GT350R vs My Camaro 1LE! Which One's Better?

[@Moue666]

GT350R exhaust note is heaven for the ears.

[@drivenmad2089]

It is a great sound!

[@chrisconsola5306]

Have both. A Shelby GT350R and a SS/1LE. The two car's can't be compared really. But he does a good job trying.

[@Clutch_Kick187]

Bought a 22 1LE Manual.. Tried a 10spd mach one, and a 22 pp1 mustang.. Im a fan of the torque of the chevy, and the much, much better tr6060 trans, than that shush box mt82.. I couldn't stand the 10spd, it was fast when you floored it, but no fun other than that, so when it came down the decision, I went with the 1LE, the exhaust is perfect, wheels are perfect, seats are great.. First Camaro, owned 4 Mustangs...

[@drivenmad2089]

Nice man! And Yep, I have nothing against mustangs, just prefer the way the 1LE drives on the road. It’s truly a great car. I will buy another one at some point haha Thanks for watching!

[@Kracer715]

Exhaust on the gt350 is amazing! I've owned a gt350 and a c7 corvette. I would take the gt350 any day.

[@Sloimer]

I put the back seat down on my SS and also took the trunk cover off the storage area and the sound is so much more apparent in the cabin. Almost a completely different experience. I love it.

[@jmmch3358]

I removed the muffler from my '16 SS with NPP and the exhaust sound was too much to me, that I had to install it back.

[@msb134]

You know when you bring price into the conversation. You truly cannot beat the 1LE. Ive driven both and bang for the buck goes to the 1LE. Ive had the opportunity to drive at Laguna Seca and the Camaro was a blast!

[@drivenmad2089]

I would love to drive at Laguna Seca. I bet the car would be fantastic there! Thanks for watching!

[@Elliottdetroit]

I absolutely love both cars. I actually tried my hardest to get my hands on a new ss or 2ss but they are being bought before they get to dealers now in North Florida! I ended up buying a PP1 5.0 and I love the car as I daily it. With that being said when you compare these two cars it really comes down to do you want a torquey delivery car or a high revving peak car. With out a doubt I think the 1LE chassic is superior to the s550 but the GT350R is more track focus. You really can't go wrong with both. If could take one home I'd be the 1le. I feel like it's just a drivers car if that makes since. You can drive to work, take it on field with you, go home and pick your helmet up and drive it to a track and drive it back home.. all while being comfortable..

[@LONGWALDO]

The camaro is such a better drivers car

[@1LE_Ciko]

Man I’m trying so hard to find a 1le brand new with out actually ordering, don’t wanna wait that damn long

[@1LE_Ciko]

Update I got one 💪🏼

[@Elliottdetroit]

@@1LE_Ciko awesome stuff brother hope your enjoying it 💯👌🏾

[@andrewbeall4882]

@@LONGWALDO than a gt350? lmao

[@Erkkremlinklum]

I test drove both and while the gt350 was a riot I fell in love with the 1le

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep 1LE is awesome! hands down one of my favorite cars I've owned. Thanks for watching!

[@74babyblue]

Man i could go with the gt350 for the soundtrack alone. Just hearing it cruising around all day smiling from ear to ear.

[@calvinjr6020]

I’ve watched a few vids of people gettin rid of there 6gens SS… ehhh might regret that a few years down the line… already lowest selling so gonna be the rarest outta the big 3 yea ima keep mine forever lol

[@calvinjr6020]

An great vid btw

[@drivenmad2089]

Completely agree. When that last year comes around I’ll be really tempted to get another haha Thanks for watching!

[@matrox]

I prefer the low end tq. Thats why my 17' SS 6 spd has been my daily driver since new and 56 or 57k miles.

[@nighthawk2k337]

Both beautiful cars, nothing wrong with owning both. I own a 2012 Black Gt and a 2012 SS 1LE. 2 great cars I just so happen to enjoy my Camaro and like Camaros way more…

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep. Both cool cars just comes down to personal preference. Thanks for watching!

[@FL50ssp]

Nighthawk2K did you mean to say 2013? That was the first year for SS 1LE availability to consumers, a 2012 would be a pre-production car, possible but not likely. Anyway, 2013 is a low production year with ~ 410 1 SS 1LE and ~1413 2 SS 1LE produced. Gen 5 SS 1LE is a great car and is on my bucket list... I currently own a 2019 1SS 1LE that I bought as a track day car.

[@nighthawk2k337]

@@FL50ssp yeah it’s a 2013🙏

[@FL50ssp]

@@nighthawk2k337 Understood. Hang on to it and enjoy.

[@saviordream]

Sad to hear the your (dad's) Camaro is going away. I watched a bunch of your videos on the car earlier in the year while waiting for my 2SS 1LE to arrive. Picked it up a month ago and even though I haven't driven it much, being a weekend car, I've enjoyed every minute of it and find it to be an absolute blast to drive.

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep, no doubt it’s a great car. At some point I’ll be getting another one maybe on its last production year or something haha. Congrats on the car man, you’ll definitely enjoy it!

[@ilyrismedia2641]

How long was the wait? I am about to place an order for a 1SS 1LE.. ill probably place the order really shortly... if I dont drive 1 hour up north to pick up an orange one off the dealership.

[@saviordream]

@@ilyrismedia2641 Once I found a dealer with an allocation, it took about 13 weeks from order date to delivery. Keep in mind though that it took me about 6 months to find a dealer that had an allocation available.

[@loganrobbins3457]

@@ilyrismedia2641 Always keep an eye out for those rare finds. I found one in transit about a week ago with my exact build with an added sunroof and Camaro badge on the fenders. I called and they told me it was sold. I went to 2 dealers trying to order but both wanted over msrp, or for me to buy some extra crap I didn't need. Called the dealership where I found the spec I wanted because they had allocation. Went to order today. Got there and the exact car I had called about last week was taken off the trailer last night. Turns out it was available. Going to pick up my 2023 2ss 1LE on Tuesday. First new car. Might have to make a channel now.

[@ilyrismedia2641]

@@loganrobbins3457 Do it. I want to see the unveiling and the come-up.

[@Mral236d]

Just got my first few upgrades on my 6th gen ss yesterday and its crazy how much an extra 100hp feels. I am having to relearn how to shift out of first smoothly again on take off because the pedal is so sensitive now lol. I really want a gt350 or a gt500 next. Nice vid!

[@drivenmad2089]

Nice man! Congrats on the upgrades! Thanks for watching!

[@chrismaddox1634]

@Everything Pc what mods did you do to gain 100hp? I just got a 23 2ss 1le and I’m looking to add a little power to it.

[@Mral236d]

@@chrismaddox1634 catback exhaust, long tube headers, flex fuel kit, rotofab CAI, stage 3 heads and tune. The best bang for the buck power gain on these cars is definitely gonna be the flex fuel kit with a tune and running e85. That alone adds about 40rwhp.

[@jmmch3358]

Just in the middle of letting go of my 5th gen Camaro ZL1, I test drove a Shelby GT350, the exhaust sound and the high 8000 RPM driving were addictive, but the soul less driving below RPM was a complete NO for me in street driving, no present torque, instead I went and bought a Corvette C7 Z51 that felt very strong from the get go.🤷

[@1c3sly13]

I ordered a Camaro and it seems for my type of driving, I made the right choice.

[@drivenmad2089]

Awesome man congrats on the order! Thanks for watching!

[@7000U9ZHIFT]

Years back I drove s197 car and then got into a 5th camaro chassis.... Holy crap what a difference zeta chassis felt like a race car to the s197

[@ilyrismedia2641]

Revisiting this.. How do we still feel about the 1LE? I am dancing on the edge of ordering a SS 1LE for daily driving + tracking. As I live in between two highly-active race tracks. I drove a mustang 2021 gt 5.0 and compared to the base 2SS camaro, it was depressing to say the least, it wasn't the shelby though.. so there is that.

[@LONGWALDO]

I have a 2019 pp1 and it is so much worse than a ss 1le to drive

[@jmmch3358]

Even the 6th gen Camaro SS has an amazing handling, thanks to the Alpha chassis

[@FordKillinFiatandShitvydaily]

Im a mustang guy here but the SS 1LE is far superior to the pp1 mustang when it comes to getting the best of both worlds track and street car. If you want to go fast in a straight the 5.0 has a bit more potential.

[@jmmch3358]

@juliosanchez6783 Performance wise, I think that the Camaro SS1LE is at a very close level of performance than the 2019 Shelby GT350, Shelby GT350R, Mustang Mach l, and even the Dark Horse. The 6th gen Camaro SS is superior compared to any other version of the Mustang GT.

[@FordKillinFiatandShitvydaily]

@@jmmch3358 I definitely agree with you. However what I can brag about being a mustang owner is that when we are talking mod for mod performance, the mustang hands down beats camaro. My buddy has a Camaro LT1 10 speed and mod for mod he was never able to beat me. He had a prey tune and my mustang was tuned by Lund. Eventually he went heads and Cam route. I eventually went with a 3.0 whipple while unopening motor for heads or cams.

[@jimwalker9857]

I own a 2020 ZL1 selling it for a 2023 2SS 1LE want a manual . Nothing wrong with the ZL1 just not using the power and want to enjoy driving around .

[@drivenmad2089]

Then you’ll love the 1LE. Super fun useable power. One of my favorite driving cars of all time! Thanks for watching!

[@jmmch3358]

Interesting comment. I always thought that the ZL1 was way superior to the SS1LE. But with your comment probably the SC 650 HP is too much for the street.

[@Clutch_Kick187]

@@jmmch3358 I did the same, 18 ZL1 traded for a 22 SS 1LE manual, and couldn't be happier.. I have since added headers, intake and cam, and its so much fun.. The chop and just shy of 600whp (589 tbh) Naturally Aspirated.. Its so much fun on the street, the sound is amazing and with these wheels and good tires, it hooks..

[@RealziesCuts]

Camaro for Life 🏆 If you listen to yourself for the first three minutes of the video it’s obvious you know you made a mistake switching to Ford. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@sliknik1025]

I disagree with you on Camaro being a worse track car. It may feel softer, but that’s just the brilliant chassis and suspension engineering. If anything, it’s a perfect one car for both daily and track duties. It has electronic LSD. I personally like the 6 speed in Camaro more than in GT350, and it has rev matching (unlike GT350 for who knows what reason). It has HUD and (optional) built in video data recorder (PDR), heated and cooled Recaro seats. I had a ‘20 ZL1 and it definitely was on the quiet side (inside with exhaust in Track mode) unless you’re over like 4K RPM and step on the gas a good amount, Shelby sounds great all the time with exhaust open. Haven’t really driven the SS 1LE so not sure about how it sounds in real world. Camaro is definitely the better bang for the money, but Shelby feels more special. Can’t go wrong with either car! Both are freaking awesome!

[@JohnDoe-xl1ig]

I would put cam into 1le, a turbo setup on GT350 just enough boost to get those turbo noises in exhaust because GT350 imo already best sounding v8 of all time.

[@Jwdude123]

6-Speed Manual in Camaro = RESPECT

[@FERNANDORODRIGUEZ-cy3ph]

Camaro 1LE 🫶🏻👍🏻

[@Sub-Zero-392]

Honestly no Camaro is a good comparison to a Mustang 🐎 but a Shelby Cobra GT350 Mustang is definitely waaaàaay out of the Camaro's league.

[@zakwagner8314]

I have a 2018 SS 1le with a Maggy 2650 supercharger. 600whp. 6 speed manual. Would not trade it for the world. Response at the tip of your toe, stupid power all though the rpm range and got it a lot cheaper than a GT350R but if I was to get a mustang definitely would have to be a gt350 or at least an RTR.

[@matrox]

Camaro sounds better.

[@jacobmartinez3446]

You did not just say that

[@ttown918]

What the F....

[@jasonlommen4769]

Better get your ears checked pal. Mustang for the win.

[@matrox]

@@jasonlommen4769 I did, Doctor says the camaro has a deeper pitch so it sounds better. Just like most pushrod engines. They just sound more old school.

[@skipbrainless7527]

@@matrox your doctor needs to get his ears checked

[@gtrance3567]

Great video and I love that you have so many clips of the exhaust! Don’t they both have the same transmission by the way? Lastly it is extremely hard to beat the camaro for the $$.

[@drivenmad2089]

Appreciate it man! And they have different transmissions. The Shelby has a Tremec TR3160 and the Camaro has a Tremec TR6060. Thanks for watching!

[@hb-ol9oc]

@@drivenmad2089 Which is better the T3160 or the T6060 ? I understand the T6060 supports more torque.

[@drivenmad2089]

@@hb-ol9oc I mean as far as the internals of the transmission go, I couldn’t tell you. But shifter mechanism wise, the Camaros requires a little less effort, and isn’t quite as notchy or direct. They’re both good just depends on your preference of shifter feel.

[@Clutch_Kick187]

@@hb-ol9oc The 6060 in the camaro is "better" for longevity and holding power.. The 3160 is done when guys add boost to their 350's.. They have a hollow shaft.. and lightweight gears.. The 6060 has held 800-1000hp in GT500's, Vipers, Camaros, Hellcats.. ect..

[@fedsn8k]

Gotta correct you. The Shelby also has 3 suspension settings. Normal, Sport and Track. In Normal and Sport driving modes you can change between Normal and Sport suspension settings. In the Track driving mode, the suspension settings change to Track and Sport. That is, at least, the case on my 2020 GT350.

[@iasphodox9994]

Thinking about ordering a 2024 2SS 1LE in cherry tintcoat red soon🙏

[@drivenmad2089]

You'll love it! plus that color in person is sweet! Thanks for watching!

[@hellolove1576]

Me too I'm just waiting for my dealer to get his allotment I am first on the list

[@donaldjames4340]

They discontinued that color after 2022 !

[@petermad152]

Simple So you want reasonable HP and a nice clean interior Get a Camaro If you want a loud fast v8 With crappy plastic interior Get a gt350 I perfer the 1LE tbh

[@Elliottdetroit]

This is a fanboy take... Both are fantastic cars.. but let's not get it twisted the interior of a camaro will always be lesser of the 2....

[@Cardiakk]

@@Elliottdetroit And the masses disagree. The Mustang interior is the lesser of the two..

[@rikk7263]

I agree the Camaro has a nicer interior imo more streamlined better buttons better shift knob better steering wheel

[@Hanson032]

Nobody buys these cars for the interior lol

[@cnewell1971]

​@@Elliottdetroityour wrong! I test drove both cars and the camaro's interior is alot nicer and cleaner..to me the mustang felt like a honda or toyota interior ..cheap little vents on the dash and the cluster gauge was aweful..didnt like the rpm graph.. i went with the 1le..i love it!

[@marcusmadden3996]

What’s your thoughts on the Mach 1s

[@drivenmad2089]

I haven’t driven a Mach one, but from what I’ve been told the Mach 1 with the Handling pack is just as good as the 350. So you get the Tremec transmission, great handling, but still good on the road you just miss the “crazy” engine but as a road car I bet the Mach 1 would be great. I’d love to drive them back to back. Thank for watching!

[@johnguilfoyle5341]

I had the gt 350 really liked the tremic,does the camaro have the tremic?and if do so how does it compare in camaro,appreciate your response pondering a camaro.

[@drivenmad2089]

It does have a Tremec. But it’s the TR6060 not the the TR3160 like the Shelby. It’s good just not quite a tight as the Shelby’s.

[@FL50ssp]

@@drivenmad2089 The TR 6060 is a more robust model with a much higher torque rating and fluid capacity compared to TR 3160. Which by the way is the same trans GM uses in some T4 and V6 applications, with changes specific to each vehicle drivetrain.

[@anonanongamemaster9721]

Quick question on your Bronco: What is the interior height from floor to roof after your rear seat delete?

[@modlerjeancharles3287]

My only question is why buy the R knowing it’s harsh on road when you could of had a regular GT350? Cuz iv heard you complain about that a lot. Seems you would have liked the regular one better.

[@drivenmad2089]

I actually just posted a video about that haha. My initial plans were to track the car a lot more

[@jmmch3358]

Because the R is the best Shelby GT350

[@scaf_007vs3]

I love the fact that you've driven and owned both and share an honest opinion on each of these 2 awesome cars.. I hate the fact that you've owned both 🤣

[@havebluevette7485]

Thanks for this!

[@drivenmad2089]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@THEDriverMod_]

In terms of experience the 350 outpaces everything on the market short of a 911 GT3

[@FL50ssp]

Not sure what you mean by "experience". However, if you are referring to dealer experience for vooblew engines, overheating, electrical issues, oil usage, and limp mode... yes it is much better than most cars in that regard, especially SS 1lE.

[@THEDriverMod_]

@Florida50 I've got 26k on mine, original 2016 engine, no oil consumption and don't have a slew of issues. Experience in terms of the excitement they give you, the gt350 is a special car and a truly unique experience as well. The C8 Z06 is the only exciting car chevy has made since the C6 ZR1.

[@FL50ssp]

@@THEDriverMod_ All subjective. I'm of the opposite opinion between these two. And ultimately went with SS 1LE because of how well balanced and solid it felt compared to the other cars on my list. And how can you beat a manufacturer track warranty?

[@Sloimer]

Ever drive a ZLE?

[@THEDriverMod_]

@@Sloimer many times, just doesn't have the same thrill as a GT350

[@lenf3641]

The sued in both cars is the same from the same factory. If you want softer, more compliant suspension, then you may look for Lincoln Continental or Town Car. GT350 with it's Voodoo N/A engine is naturally slow in a low torque. The GT350R is not for daily, street driving, it's rather for tracing purpose. For street driving I enjoy more GT350.

[@mikesmith5799]

I'd never own a camaro but I'll take that Gt350R

[@isaachunt5799]

the s550 chassis and suspension is junk. the camaro is a lot better car to drive. for one you sit in the camaro. you sit on the mustang and bounce all over the seat. forget the mustang buy a camaro.

[@toddjohnson7133]

Calling the S550 junk does not reflect well on the Camaro since every comparative iteration of the Mustang will beat up on its Camaro counterpart. That's in a drag race, at the road coarse, braking and every day driving. GT500 makes the ZR1 look like a nice try but just the bridesmaid. The Mach 1 kills the best SS versions and the regular Ecoboost more than handles both V6 and turbo 4 versions of the Camaro. And the Mustang versions just look so much better. We won't get into the fucked up Camaro ergonomics.

[@isaachunt5799]

@@toddjohnson7133 handling road holding and pos chassis on the s550. utter junk cars in everyway. not talking about performance bozo. the daily driving of a mustang is a joke. having owned many mustangs i can confirm they are pos cars. you sit on them lol. the camaro u sit in it.

[@toddjohnson7133]

@@isaachunt5799 I'm going to call it. You've never owned a Mustang period. Your unabashed anti-Ford bias would not allow you to own one Ford much less the "many Mustangs" you claim. You are correct however...you do sit "in" a Camaro. Buried deep within it like a bomb shelter. Not one of its endearing qualities.

[@isaachunt5799]

@@toddjohnson7133 oh i did. three s197's and a brand new s550. pos cars all of them. it's only a car and i made money on each and every one of them. the s550 is one of the worst cars i ever owned. suspension and road holding is a joke. never again.

[@THEDriverMod_]

The s550 chassis has been widely known for how great of a platform it is. Not sure where you heard that

[@ameltjr9802]

I can make my gt350 slide on command. This video wasn't great.

[@Matt-fq6ly]

Does the Camaro have that bad of a blind spot?

[@drivenmad2089]

It does have a blind spot. But you get used to it. The Shelby also has a blind spot, along with my C8 you just gotta he prepared for it and you will get used to it. I’ve owned a 5th gen and a 6th gen and never thought it was a huge problem. If anything you’ll be more annoyed but the tiny windows haha Thanks for watching!

[@jmmch3358]

That has ben an inflated issue. Just get the SS2 and with its safety sensors it would not be apparent.

[@sd24734]

For the price the Camaro SS 1LE is the better car...

[@augustortiz]

Haha the Camaro boys are fighting for their life defending it. The 350R is leagues above the SS. It’s not even up for debate.

[@gopherit4952]

Driven both. Own 350r. Ones a collectors ones not. One you see on every corner one you don't see at all.

[@drivenmad2089]

While I agree the R will likely be MORE of a collectors car than the 1LE, that doesn’t really have much to do with how they drive haha Also while I love these 2, talking about exclusivity on these cars is kinda pointless since to most people, it’s the same rental car they bought their kid whose in high school 😂

[@gloriamaletta8667]

@@drivenmad2089 Your paying for it the 2023 Mustang GT350 price starts around 75,000 and with factory upgrades can approach 100,000 the 2023 Camaro SS 1LE costs under 50,000 and with factory options can go to 60,000 25,000 is a pretty big price difference l believe if you did 25,000 in upgrades to the 1LE it would easily surpass the performance of the GT350 dollar for dollar the Camaro is a better deal how do you know what's going to be more collectable back in 1984 most buying a Corvette thought they were buying something collectable little did they know a a nice 1984 Chevy C10 would be worth more today than a C4 Vette now the same can be said about a 1984 Monte Carlo SS or a 1984 Mustang GT so your assuming it's going to be more collectable many times basic simple cars and trucks are more collectable than sophisticated performance cars it depends on demand of them

[@Poopsicles92]

@@gloriamaletta8667 the GT350 isn’t made anymore. I think you mean the GT500 and that’s not in the same league as the SS 1LE.

[@gloriamaletta8667]

@@Poopsicles92 my mistake putting the wrong year last year made was 2020 for the GT350r the GT500 shares the same 5.2 engine but the GT500 is supercharged the GT350r classes with the 5th Gen 2014-2015 Camaro Z28 the 1LE Camaro is basically a suspension package and appearance package better tires and a suede wrapped steering wheel

[@gtrance3567]

Ss1le is actually fairly uncommon. Also, no oil consumption or grenadine engines.

[@howardkahn4330]

THIS VIDEO SAID NOTHING

[@poopscooper5038]

The dime a dozen Camaro is a turd