Shelby GT350R vs Camaro ZL1 1LE!!! | The Ultimate American Track Musclecar?

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EddieX

EddieX

Күн бұрын

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Ford and Chevy both have created an ultimate track focused version of their muscle car. The Mustang and Camaro have faced off for decades, so we decided to directly compare the latest ZL1 1LE and a Shelby GT350R. Both approach the challenge of a track focused muscle car using a different recipe...and both end up so epic. Check out what its like to own these car and the direct head to head comparison!
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@jeffrendered3564
@jeffrendered3564 6 жыл бұрын
I like this format... instead of just you reviewing two cars, you have the owners testing out each other’s cars!
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tayl0rd553
@tayl0rd553 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I like this format, too. You might have just found a strong niche here, Eddie.
@gtay8943
@gtay8943 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Rendered ya and it’s also interesting both of them are driving two different engine methods which is neat. Push rod v8 Flat plane high rev 5.2
@juliopedraza3364
@juliopedraza3364 6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@coleoberdorf4466
@coleoberdorf4466 6 жыл бұрын
this format is great and unique, keep it up Eddie!
@cadeblack3772
@cadeblack3772 6 жыл бұрын
ZL1 guy seems like an intelligent, honest, unbiased guy who gave a great comparison. Gave credit where he thought it was due!
@jebadiahfyefye8994
@jebadiahfyefye8994 5 жыл бұрын
You didn’t see that from the ford guy? I thought they were both very honest. He even said it was a very close second.
@mmholling87
@mmholling87 5 жыл бұрын
Mustang guy is probably a huge car guy, the Camaro guy is probably an engineer.
@abdullateef187
@abdullateef187 5 жыл бұрын
jebadiah fyefye the mustang guy was literally a crybaby
@creoletatted8790
@creoletatted8790 5 жыл бұрын
jebadiah fyefye that guy said himself that he’s a bit biased and it was obvious
@ljshoreslokal
@ljshoreslokal 5 жыл бұрын
@@creoletatted8790 Most of us have a bias toward cars and these guys are no different. Just seeing how shitty the 1LE drives on the road is enough to never consider one for anything but a dedicated track car.
@manny8479
@manny8479 6 жыл бұрын
This is easily THE most civilized muscle car discussion I have ever heard in my life. Props to everyone involved. GREAT JOB!
@mikephillips8538
@mikephillips8538 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@eastoakland-S65feen
@eastoakland-S65feen 4 жыл бұрын
Right!. Usually people arguing about them dont even have one. Cars in general are cool as hell
@D-Man_Jam
@D-Man_Jam 6 жыл бұрын
I like the ZL1 1LE more, but they're both beasts.
@damachine3
@damachine3 5 жыл бұрын
I own the ZL1 1LE. I upgraded from the ZL1. For the track, it can't be touched. The engine, the Alpha chassis, the aero, and the MultiMatic DSSV suspension give it the clear win. I also think it looks super badass... especially in my color, Hyper Blue Metallic. Siiiick!
@damachine3
@damachine3 5 жыл бұрын
@Paul Paul I think it looks amazing, but to each his own!
@godzilla7391
@godzilla7391 6 жыл бұрын
Im just gonna buy both. In Forza on xbox anyways
@s1mplistic999
@s1mplistic999 6 жыл бұрын
I already have
@AndrewNL08
@AndrewNL08 6 жыл бұрын
ha-hah :)
@dakotacalderon5456
@dakotacalderon5456 6 жыл бұрын
xd
@tylerdurden8939
@tylerdurden8939 6 жыл бұрын
I wish forza was on ps4. I almost would buy a xbox for forza only.
@Ash808s
@Ash808s 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Johnson The crew 2 and Nfs payback should do it.
@jack-spicer1381
@jack-spicer1381 6 жыл бұрын
The second he said it's an extra motion to turn the fan I LMAO
@blackfish4674
@blackfish4674 6 жыл бұрын
the paint color on the 350R is sick. By far the best color combo they offer imo
@thejtcouple
@thejtcouple 6 жыл бұрын
black fish idk which one I like better that or the blue with red strips I feel like the blue and red strips pop out more and the black and red strips is just mean looking
@cuzimaluzer777
@cuzimaluzer777 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Beautiful
@timprall5417
@timprall5417 5 жыл бұрын
Working across the street from a Ford dealership I will have to disagree, looks like any other Mustang and when it comes to why you buy one, PERFORMANCE, it is just another Mustang! Sorry!
@harrykoyl3784
@harrykoyl3784 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bruce6001 -It will, when the 500's arrive... poor bastards! ;)
@tory1560
@tory1560 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, this was my first choice in car and color, however, i was not paying the dealer markup. We bought the NFG ZL1 1LE and love it.
@jracer77
@jracer77 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best review between a Ford and Chevy owner that i've ever watched. Seriously, great job! If you can do the same between a ZL1 non 1LE and GT350. That would be awesome.
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will try to do that!
@parkermeredith6035
@parkermeredith6035 4 жыл бұрын
See this is what car culture is about, no fighting, not arguing. Respect of each car and for each-other, the way it should be.
@Kubs777
@Kubs777 6 жыл бұрын
You guys have something here. The chemistry with all 3 of you works so well. Keep at it and who knows you might just be the better US version of Top Gear.
@NR-vw2rd
@NR-vw2rd 4 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the ZL1, muscular and just bad ass. The paint scheme of the Mustang, gloss black with flat black stripes and red pin stripe at the sides is gorgeous. Add the RED cobra insignia on the front and looks aggressive. I love them both, but Camaro would be the one to buy for me. Exterior styling is just more aggressive. Great review by two professionals (employees that probably know every inch of design, development, manufacturing, and performance). Thank you for a well directed review.
@convex7456
@convex7456 6 жыл бұрын
Props to u guys driving the R and 1le on MI roads. Idk if people understands how hardcore that is 😂
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
It was super sketch in the Camaro, and painful haha
@null2268
@null2268 6 жыл бұрын
Fuckin drive a leveled Duramax HD truck everyday in Michigan which I guarantee is harsher than the ZLE. You all are pussies.
@Dolby109
@Dolby109 6 жыл бұрын
It is. I just drove my Beat up to Michigan for the Woodward Dream Cruise. I've driven in Michigan plenty before but with a tiny car on crazy stiff coilovers it put the roads in a whole new light. Can'tHave2MuchHP - you are wrong. All that is is heavy rear springs to deal with the load, so it's sort of stiff when not loaded. They still have soft dampers, and the spring rate vs weight still isn't as high as a sports car.
@null2268
@null2268 6 жыл бұрын
Dolby109 Incorrect. I live near and drive on the same roads they filmed this on. It’s nothing. They’re just pussies. I know three ZLE owners and it’s not even that bad. A HD truck is worse. These two ford fucks are just used to their Audi’s and SUVs that are quieter and soft.
@null2268
@null2268 6 жыл бұрын
Dolby109 Fact is if it had tons of body roll they bitch too. Can’t make people like this happy.
@SentientResiduum
@SentientResiduum 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best car review videos I have seen, would like to see videos like this continue. Thank you EddieX.
@FVBully
@FVBully 6 жыл бұрын
What a great comparison. Civil conversation without all the fanboys BS and real impressions of the cars. First time I’ve seen you’re channel but I’ll keep checking for more. Great job 👍
@ThatColtGuy
@ThatColtGuy 6 жыл бұрын
The camaro zl1 1le has the best front end...😍😍
@tylerdurden7146
@tylerdurden7146 4 жыл бұрын
Camaros killing the mustang. Thats why I went with the 6th gen fifty 2ss. The mustang just feels like a cheap car. I wanted a mustang till I drive them both.
@maurieloflores5000
@maurieloflores5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden7146 yeah i was was debating over which to get a Mustang GT Premium or Camaro SS 2SS and i feel that way too. what were your personal opinions about both cars when driving them
@aisu8481
@aisu8481 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden7146 mustang premium spec feels pretty plush coming from a BRZ though 😄
@walidh6114
@walidh6114 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Cars! I love chevy and ford but I'll give it to the 1LE. Crazy engineering in this Chevy. And for the shelby, The engine is the star.
@drwho1821
@drwho1821 6 жыл бұрын
Camaros suck
@walidh6114
@walidh6114 6 жыл бұрын
@@drwho1821 My God! Now the whole world will change their standpoint.
@chn9181
@chn9181 5 жыл бұрын
@@drwho1821 you suck haha i love them both
@jebadiahfyefye8994
@jebadiahfyefye8994 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the front end of the Ford is the star. For it to handle the way it does, and to feel so good, that’s next level engineering. Putting a giant blown motor on a car with race suspension isn’t anything crazy to me. It’s a cool car for sure. But I think the gt350R is more special and I think time will fell the same.
@texasowl5356
@texasowl5356 5 жыл бұрын
Walid H you can’t really compare, one is naturally aspirated. The other isn’t
@hoops3166
@hoops3166 6 жыл бұрын
Never pay mark up on a car! The money you’ve saved by buying the Camaro you can put exhaust, better seats, another set of tires for track days!.... just my two cents.....👍
@chrislewis6735
@chrislewis6735 6 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and buy one that is a year old. They are out there and the savings are worth it.
@matthewd6306
@matthewd6306 6 жыл бұрын
And not be able to see a God Damn thing while your're driving.
@jasons2697
@jasons2697 6 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason why the GT350R is still marked up, and the ZL1 1LE isn’t, and that’s because more people want the GT350R, it sounds a ton better (a main reason why people buy these cars)(probably one of the best sounding factory cars ever made), and it’s a track car that doesn’t need the use of forced induction to be fast on and off the track. There a lot to be said about that.
@vyyo5025
@vyyo5025 6 жыл бұрын
Jason S personally, the 350r is the best sounding non exotic car on the planet. Ford working with borla to make the exhaust was an incredible decision. And hearing one at over 7000 RPM’s is just absolutely insane.
@marcojordan1368
@marcojordan1368 5 жыл бұрын
Zl1 1le just put exhaust tires on tune
@Nata12ed
@Nata12ed 6 жыл бұрын
I have a ZL11LE and I don't have a problem at all seeing out of it, my head is in the middle of the window. I don't look out the window with my bicep. The problem with these comparisons is that the ZL11LE is not a comparable to the GT 350R it's more of a comparable to the 911 GT3 or a lamborghini Hurican they have stiff suspensions also and have you ever tried to look out of a lambo? Nobody whines about the restricted vision out of that car. As far as the sound of the car put it in track mode and double tap the TC then select track and the car sounds freaking awesome but it might scare you because this is the only setting that allows you to get full throttle all the other settings restrict the horsepower.
@racerj5004
@racerj5004 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. People are overly critical about the visiblity. Is it perfect, no, but it is an amazing performance car at an amazing price point. Especially, as you pointed out, performance wise it’s more on par with the Lambo and Mclaren. I have one and love it. I’ve never had a car that was more fun or could corner as fast. By the way, I also have a Mercedes AMG. I rather drive the manual ZL1 1LE.
@markmarshall9941
@markmarshall9941 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the ZL1 is GM's top performer for Camaro when in 2015 it had 505 hp to today's 640 hp, why because Ford's mid-range Stang gt350r track car blew it's doors off, it's horse power 526. So GM's using Ford's mark to beat, came back with more horses than a drag stock car in the late 80's rated at just 500 hp. So if you want a comparison you have to race the KR (king of the road) GT 500. Note: Corvette was made to compete with Ford's two seater in the 50's, the Thunderbird, who always won the race. But now the mustang whooped that ass (Corvettes) so many times and the ford GT being a super car they threw their motor out, built a new one, with more torque and redesigned the whole car after putting the motor in the middle (like Seattle moving out of the AFC West, and being relocated to NFC North before they could win a title) of the chassis, good job GM but I'm still riding a Stang baby, the original American icon. GM did a fantastic job chased the leader GT 350 and after a couple tries got em'.
@olikat8
@olikat8 5 жыл бұрын
I would say the ZL-1 1-LE is closer to the GT-500. Take the supercharger off, thus an SS with the 1-LE option and this becomes more of an apples-to-apples comparison with the GT350-R. Visibility is much worse than in the Mustang, not insurmountable, but not as easy to see out of in comparison. The LS motor makes torque much easier, less oil consumption as well
@davidbarra1555
@davidbarra1555 4 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree there comparing a supercharged engine to a naturally aspirated engine it should be compared to the GT500 not the 350
@poorthingproductions
@poorthingproductions 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the best reviews I’ve ever seen.
@bingster-223
@bingster-223 6 жыл бұрын
I would choose a regular ZL1 A10 with a Corsa exhaust with the exhaust flaps open all the time lol, but i like the GT 350R a lot. Good review well done.
@cuzimaluzer777
@cuzimaluzer777 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, agree completely but still tempted to get the manual.
@matthewd6306
@matthewd6306 6 жыл бұрын
lmao, automatic
@MrHereWeGoYo
@MrHereWeGoYo 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@breezy7769
@breezy7769 6 жыл бұрын
I read my mind if do same modifications but have it manual
@sexy13ITCH0000
@sexy13ITCH0000 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew D lmao gatekeeping cars
@usernamealreadytaken770
@usernamealreadytaken770 6 жыл бұрын
For me it’s ZL1 for track only driving, but if I were going to do both street and track driving, I’d go with the Shelby.
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Good way to put it! I agree
@usernamealreadytaken770
@usernamealreadytaken770 6 жыл бұрын
EddieX Partly due to the atrocious visibility. I rented a Camaro SS for a few days and of course being a rental car, it lacked any options such as blind spot monitors, so it was kinda scary to drive on the streets. As a track car the Camaro is amazing, but not a car I would use on the streets due to that.
@Supremeyaree
@Supremeyaree 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wu you don’t really use it that much once you get on you use your mirror more
@CaptnxKnuckles
@CaptnxKnuckles 6 жыл бұрын
Before I bought my 350 I was super close to buying a 2ss 1le which has the same interior. I went with the 350 because after I drove both I felt the mustang felt more “raw.” The camaro felt like it drove itself which some may like, but not for me
@Prodriver33
@Prodriver33 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way but I bought an SS 1LE. At $47k new it was an easy choice. Not sure if I would get the Ford even if money wasn’t an issue. I’d like it on track, and I do appreciate the visibility out of the cabin but for someone who would daily it I’m going SS 1LE 6SPD.
@ravindramathur7089
@ravindramathur7089 4 жыл бұрын
Vik...is Vikram the Camaro guy from my country, India and never thought that an Indian will buy a v8 camaro...amazing
@chris-o2v9c
@chris-o2v9c 5 жыл бұрын
Both are amazing for 70,000. I would hands down take the mustang and put a pro charger!the 350 looks and sounds awsome!
@johnshukeireh5804
@johnshukeireh5804 6 жыл бұрын
Me and my friend were in a challenger rt at the Woodward dream cruise this weekend and we raced a zl1 1le. It’s not even funny how far ahead he got in front of us that thing is FAST!
@davesracingchannel9261
@davesracingchannel9261 6 жыл бұрын
John Shukeireh Would you please give my racing channel its 1525th Subscribe
@daltonv5206
@daltonv5206 6 жыл бұрын
I mean. You were in a boat
@markspark3360
@markspark3360 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Rocco but u will have the ugliest car in town .. Go fuck yourself u guiny hick
@Fluke2SS
@Fluke2SS 6 жыл бұрын
I beat a challenger in my 2016 1SS. It wasn't hard to do tbh. And I was bone stock, which I'm sure he was as well. Every gear shift on my car, had me pulling ahead of the challenger with ease. Chargers are a joke for the SS unless they have some strap-ons. The stock mustangs, cannot compete with the 1SS or 2SS let alone the ZL1's without their supercharger strap-ons. Even in handling they fall behind the Camaro. From what I've researched even a Hellcat cannot touch a Camaro with equal horsepower under the hood.
@jasons2697
@jasons2697 6 жыл бұрын
That’s because Challenger RT’s are slow!
@breezewood64able
@breezewood64able 6 жыл бұрын
A convincingly honest and thorough comparison of two rival cars that I also would like to own. Great video fellas!!!!
@crigitti
@crigitti 6 жыл бұрын
Damn I want both. Shelby for showing off and Camaro for showing up at the track!!!
@bayron13
@bayron13 6 жыл бұрын
GT350R past 4k RPM's is heavenly music. 1LE's brutal torque is magic propulsion.
@CP-cf4bb
@CP-cf4bb 4 жыл бұрын
Never really realized how rough the zl1 1LE suspension is until I saw them consistently bouncing in their seats. I always thought people were exaggerating. Love the video.
@ElvisCarReviews
@ElvisCarReviews 6 жыл бұрын
The dream will be to own both
@johncarr123
@johncarr123 5 жыл бұрын
Even the base 1LE SS is insane! 455HP and 455LB of torque. More than I can handle LOL
@b1oodyhunter976
@b1oodyhunter976 4 жыл бұрын
Yes nd wen ur done paying it .... pro charge that bitch💪💪
@eastoakland-S65feen
@eastoakland-S65feen 4 жыл бұрын
Or turbo. But yea. Or stroker is nice. Anyway will make a 1le beastier
@nathanmoore3814
@nathanmoore3814 5 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, I want the one that wins the race (Camaro) I can upgrade the seats lol.
@coleprell6280
@coleprell6280 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Moore heck yeah
@mitchellcole832
@mitchellcole832 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that but LS motors are cheaper to modify overall
@joshuacrossing7117
@joshuacrossing7117 6 жыл бұрын
i own the 1le. i think this is the best review of these two cars i've seen. One beef - i get tired of hearing what a hard ride the 1le is mostly because i got use to it. sure it's a hard ride, but somehow 2k miles later, i dont notice. and the other thing - that suspension glues the car to the road like rails, and i'd like to point that out. took the car to willows a couple of weeks ago. had a great time. drove the car there and back (500 miles round trip). best street legal car there that day, and kept up with all the pure track cars. for me, the ride is stiff but not harsh, not jarring. My two cents. Again, great video, Eddie. Love the format, especially since the owners work at GM and Ford.
@decheeser
@decheeser 6 жыл бұрын
its nice to see what an actual polite conversation is like between different brand owners. something you don't see when visiting different car forums or youtube comment sections that drip with brand bias and vitriol. just 2 guys, driving 2 cool cars and having fun in both.
@jeffreygraves4120
@jeffreygraves4120 6 жыл бұрын
The gt350r is just sexy. Beautiful engine sound
@damachine3
@damachine3 6 жыл бұрын
16:00 The ZL11LE owner is like, "What the hell did you guys just do to my car?!"
@prod.yayo5715
@prod.yayo5715 4 жыл бұрын
Bruhhh😂💀
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 6 жыл бұрын
Eddie loved the video do more of these comparsions they're great
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Will try to film more
@DCGULL01
@DCGULL01 6 жыл бұрын
WOW! Sincere thanks to BOTH OWNERS! Unbelieveably well spoken & honest- ZERO trash talk from either. Really enjoyed each others impressions of the other's car- maybe the very best comparo I've ever seen. Love them both, but, the sound of the Mustang, along with that 8,200 RPM limit along with a daily driver ride (1LE was way to stiff) was my favorite. I agreed with both owners- the seats & dash & tech would've been nicer in the GT350R, but, who doesn't adore 650/650 on tap- all the time? I can barely tell a rental V6 from a Shelby, so, the Camaro is a real stand out- "what is that thing?" is what I always say when I see one (albeit rarely). EddieX- great work, and, (I'm guessing) solid editing! What a high bar to achieve, I hope you can keep it up! At $65k- the Camaro is a dedicated track car (pricey), and the GT350R isn't. But, at 65K for it, I think I would want more: tech, options, luxury, etc...
@stratiotai2
@stratiotai2 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone saying "take the super charger off and then lets see" thats like saying "make that flat plane crank cross plane then lets see" its put on at the factory, has factory warranty and is incorporated into the price. Both of these are great cars, I have driven a regular gt350 and a zl1 and both are absolutely amazing cars, and honestly someone with my driving ability will never come close to pushing either to their limit in any capacity. What I will say is the noise is smile inducing in the gt350 and the sheer grunt of the zl1 puts the exact same smile on my face. Different strokes for different folks
@miketeeter2759
@miketeeter2759 5 жыл бұрын
Respect to the Camaro in Ontario 🇨🇦👍
@Digiphex
@Digiphex 5 жыл бұрын
Ford lied and said no automatic could handle the torque. GM proved it was a lie.
@devinsfg1831
@devinsfg1831 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Tratnyek General Motors
@Ozmandius
@Ozmandius 4 жыл бұрын
That's why Ford went to chevy to design a transmission
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ozmandius Funny because Ford has yet to use GM's transmission but GM was happy to use that 10 speed.
@joaovitorsilvagohl682
@joaovitorsilvagohl682 4 жыл бұрын
@@burgerbandit3646 Tremec makes the trans for both.
@markmccarty727
@markmccarty727 4 жыл бұрын
@@joaovitorsilvagohl682 keep telling them, I work for the largest ome company (at least last year,) and we make parts for Ford,GM ,Nissan and Chrysler, on the same kind of equipment!! We make parts for other companies as well. Buy what you like made in America. Stop bitchin bout what the next guy drives.
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 5 жыл бұрын
Cooled seats on a hot day at the track is the BEST!!!!
@manbroskyrides6559
@manbroskyrides6559 5 жыл бұрын
I'm saving this video to link in the dumb comment section arguments in the future. This is how real men compare cars. Blatant brand bias is not only ignorant but bad for the brand in the long run. Demand more from your favorite brand if you want more. Competition is always a good thing. It's a great age for american motor sports with all the competition and we've never seen this much quality in our muscle cars. Hats off for the very cool format. These guys put their bias aside and gave very genuine and logical opinions.
@terenceoloughlin3927
@terenceoloughlin3927 4 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST honest review I have ever seen about these cars. I am a Shelby guy, but I TOTALLY respect this Camaro, and would not take it lightly (not even remotely). I agree with both guys opinions. The Shelby works better for me (engine orgasm), but I can't deny torque rules. Cheers. One last thought. I can add forced induction to my Shelby GT 350. GAME OVER :)
@realtalk4689
@realtalk4689 6 жыл бұрын
You nailed it with this review Eddie. I personally would choose the R and add more leather, power, wider tires and gadgets but with the 1le all you need is better race seats and exhaust. Overall I would give the Camaro the win but the Mustang gets my money because it's harder to upgrade looks.
@roberttinlin2313
@roberttinlin2313 6 жыл бұрын
real talk 1le.all.the.way
@duncancycles
@duncancycles 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Finally a video comparing both at the same time... outstanding job
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!!
@MikeDirth
@MikeDirth 6 жыл бұрын
Good review. Since I track my car, performance is the key criteria, so I would choose the ZL1 1LE.
@stephenfrench6116
@stephenfrench6116 6 жыл бұрын
great job guys! the way you explain everything about the cars, the format you present. i will be following you. You will be around a long time.
@JeepsCafe
@JeepsCafe 6 жыл бұрын
You guys make me laugh, reminds me of Harold and Kumar. Lol
@jsilva7005
@jsilva7005 5 жыл бұрын
Thats racist, youre a racist and you should feel bad
@shawnleblanc8968
@shawnleblanc8968 6 жыл бұрын
I would take the ZL1 all day long!
@Iconhulk
@Iconhulk 6 жыл бұрын
Better get a tow truck..
@oldblood_eyes
@oldblood_eyes 6 жыл бұрын
6:46 "It's a v8 Honda." LMAO that's the first time I've heard anyone say that to describe a gt350r haha
@alexchevez8768
@alexchevez8768 6 жыл бұрын
Raúl not me I've heard that several times that's the impression I got just a big ass Honda motor that's all
@Soup_SSB
@Soup_SSB 6 жыл бұрын
Mostly likely because mustang (at least near me) are as common as hondas, which sadly makes them less exciting to see
@billyunderwood7221
@billyunderwood7221 6 жыл бұрын
There's never been a Honda that sounded that that. Ever.
@oldblood_eyes
@oldblood_eyes 6 жыл бұрын
@@billyunderwood7221 you missed the point
@fishels3895
@fishels3895 6 жыл бұрын
Cold_ Soup same as Camaros
@digital_art_froth874
@digital_art_froth874 6 жыл бұрын
13:07 "I'm not whining!" Lolz
@samuelrobinson7893
@samuelrobinson7893 Жыл бұрын
😂
@nophonypony
@nophonypony 5 жыл бұрын
If your tracking the car Camaro is the tool. For every day all around, the sound, the experience of the revs etc. and the looks, Stang all day everyday! I also enjoyed the conversation between the to owners. Both seemed to be nice guys, however the Camaro owner was a little less biased. Awesome video!
@Repsolrider69
@Repsolrider69 6 жыл бұрын
LOVED HEARING THE ACTUAL OWNERS OPINIONS OF EACH OTHERS CARS. WELL DONE.
@2fast2nick
@2fast2nick 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny people complain about the tilted screen on the Camaro... It might look funny but you can see it perfectly it in the sun.
@edwindix6842
@edwindix6842 5 жыл бұрын
Ford suspension on there cars has always been good which explains the ride I drove a GT mustang yesterday and it felt as good as my Lincoln not exactly the same but for a muscle car it was great on the road
@Rad_MTB_Rage
@Rad_MTB_Rage 6 жыл бұрын
The Mustang looks so damn good !
@matt6951
@matt6951 2 жыл бұрын
That Camaro looks menacing, even parked next to a gt350r.. and that’s saying something! Love both those cars!
@GarveyMustangMan
@GarveyMustangMan 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a great rivalry between two great American Muscle beasts.
@michaelmerrelli3562
@michaelmerrelli3562 6 жыл бұрын
I chose my ZL one over the cobra r And yes you’re right the cobra exhaust sounds way better unfortunately there’s just not enough horsepower there you’re almost get beat by everything
@shanefowler9443
@shanefowler9443 4 жыл бұрын
If you e85 with a tune they are monsters tho
@yankee1985524
@yankee1985524 6 жыл бұрын
The GT350 would definitely make a better daily than a ZL1 1LE
@4mbpswifi804
@4mbpswifi804 5 жыл бұрын
Didnt realize this was a vid about wich is a better daily😆
@gizmotron2030
@gizmotron2030 6 жыл бұрын
You can make the exhaust louder independent of the driving mode in the ZL1 1LE. Its an option in the settings menu.
@traindawg21
@traindawg21 6 жыл бұрын
That right here is how you compare cars. 2 the owners driving each others cars being respectful and not on youtube in the comments arguing like lil girls especially the ones who never driven either car. This was awesome
@AmitPatel_.
@AmitPatel_. 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new owner of a 2018 GT350 (non-R). I think this car feels like my 2006 BMW M3 Comp 6-Speed. However this Mustang has 200 more horsepower and a better manual transmission than any BMW ever made, along with Sync3. What a wonderful piece of machinery.
@EddieX
@EddieX 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing! Enjoy yours
@MrWadeTC
@MrWadeTC 5 жыл бұрын
I think the styling of the Shelby R is more classic and I prefer it, but as far as power, handling, tech features even the interior layout I'd have to chose the Camaro.I've always been a GM man, with the exception of Lincoln vs Cadillac, F series GM trucks, and even yes Mustang vs Camaro . In this case though without driving them myself I'd have to go with the ZL1 1LE. THAT ALL BEING SAID I THINK I AM VERY UNBIASED
@marcoromero3192
@marcoromero3192 5 жыл бұрын
CAMARO ALL DAY LOOOONG🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
@jacobcoopervfx4674
@jacobcoopervfx4674 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@Mr.Deko86
@Mr.Deko86 5 жыл бұрын
Hey brother. Thank you for the video. Great concept. Car-swap, this should bring up some interesting conversations not only about cars, but personalities as well.
@patkeanski08
@patkeanski08 6 жыл бұрын
I love that both guys are able to give unbiased opinions. I would have a hard time choosing between the two.
@JordanMizurov09
@JordanMizurov09 6 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to have the two owners driving each others cars and I was waiting for the rev match that never happened
@2fast2nick
@2fast2nick 6 жыл бұрын
Both awesome cars. I have a ZL1, and I'd love to have a GT350R too.
@Guinea54
@Guinea54 6 жыл бұрын
The comparison of what is better is determined by the preference of the person buying the car... The chevy is better as a race car.. the mustang is better as a street car.
@t-roy2418
@t-roy2418 6 жыл бұрын
i would take a ZL1
@BlueFreeZeYuT
@BlueFreeZeYuT 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the cammero owner on the highway way driving home from Toronto airport and got up beside him a few times and he would blast past us was awesome funny to find him on KZbin after the fact. If you see this cammero driver we were the 2 guys in the grey jetta thx for the entertainment on the 2 hour drive home!
@RobDTom
@RobDTom 5 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel based on the quality of this one video. It might be the best head to head comparison video I've ever seen.
@sabbathoneseveneight8643
@sabbathoneseveneight8643 5 жыл бұрын
Supercharged Camaro vs N/A Mustang. Times have changed.
@ABthatMan_
@ABthatMan_ 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. However the mustang owner was overly nit picky!! He’s talking shi7 about heated and cooled seats? “I don’t want that” come on man! The A/C controls are very intuitive. The Camaro guy while he critiqued the mustang he was very analytical and objective. Just my critique. Amazing job Eddie I think you should name these “Let’s flip whips” this was great let the guys talk. Do a Ferrari owner and a Lamborghini owner. A corvette and a Porsche or viper owner. This can be big.
@Wings1090
@Wings1090 6 жыл бұрын
+ABtheAgent I do agree with you that I was a little nit picky and could have been more objective in my reasons for why I thought the way I did. In my opinion though, having heated/cooled seats in a track-focused car doesn't make one car better than the other. I'd be more concerned with how the seat feels compared to the features. But I get how it could sound like I'm talking shit about them lol.
@marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744
@marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744 6 жыл бұрын
@@Wings1090 man you guys both are blessed living the life that we wish we could LOL enjoy it because when I get my Mustang I will be enjoying it too
@daebruh2034
@daebruh2034 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 5.0 currently... this video made me want the 350 more.... 8250rpms...
@ABthatMan_
@ABthatMan_ 6 жыл бұрын
Matt S I will admit that I’m cross shopping these right now lol. Wait for the GT500?? Idk. Ford is just slow with the GT500 info!! But cool whip man!! Love it.
@wesleyoyeyinka4975
@wesleyoyeyinka4975 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video man... good work 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@EddieX
@EddieX 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!!
@damikicordero9588
@damikicordero9588 4 жыл бұрын
I own a zl1 1le daily drive it in fl, and i love it, the feel of the rd, the sound, and thrill of all that instant torque at any gear even it low rpm, its amazing, you don’t even think of the bumpy ride, its like being in a gokart on staroides , i test drove a gt350r, and you have to rev it high in order to get the same feeling.
@adventuresinlandservice6656
@adventuresinlandservice6656 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the format as well...nice work. This is how a car review and comparison should be done.
@jimmietanner5636
@jimmietanner5636 6 жыл бұрын
I'm old school. You can't compare small block to big block.
@MrSuperrajab
@MrSuperrajab 6 жыл бұрын
one small tip eddie :D the audio is flipped left to right .
@silvacs638jj
@silvacs638jj 6 жыл бұрын
ZL1! I just love this car!
@mylesleevy2432
@mylesleevy2432 5 жыл бұрын
This was a very informative video, and like others have said, thanks for not being biased meatheads about your respective cars, guys! But.. my man. The driving gloves. I mean.. great if you’re attempting to avoid splinters from all the wooden steering wheels you deal with regularly, but... yeesh. Might as well wear goggles, too.
@nightfall1le359
@nightfall1le359 4 жыл бұрын
Rely late to reply but I’m guessing he wears them to save the alcantara steering wheels. I’ve never worn gloves in mine but the wheel doesn’t have the same feel or look as it used to either because of that.
@GTOGregory
@GTOGregory 5 жыл бұрын
I have a '16 2SS with the magnetic ride control and find the ride soft even with the Goodyear F1's. I also have a 2006 GTO with extra heavy coil overs, suspension bushings, and heavy sway bars. It has a firm ride, but with R888's on it the ride isn't an issue. Some people might say my '15 2500HD LML diesel rides firm, but nobody has.
@dbrownss1480
@dbrownss1480 4 жыл бұрын
They're both great cars, and it just comes down to personal preference. As it should be
@yellowflash6635
@yellowflash6635 6 жыл бұрын
I think if you supercharged the Mustang the Mustang will be better than an ZL1 but today ZL1 will have the W
@whatswiththissassylostchilld
@whatswiththissassylostchilld 5 жыл бұрын
Fan of Mo Vlogs unless you want the engine to blow up on the gt350. Just better to get the zl1. I know you probably going to say “I’m dumb or some shit” but the gt350 engine isn’t a stable design engine. You would need to invest a lot of money into the voodoo engine to have a supercharger.
@williamdriver1959
@williamdriver1959 4 жыл бұрын
What’s with this sassy Lost child? Actually the gen 2 engine is a lot better and love boost
@MilesHarrelson
@MilesHarrelson 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing series to start! Please do more of these videos, they will definitely blow up.
@attilasebok1819
@attilasebok1819 6 жыл бұрын
Mustang!!❤❤❤
@jasonlommen4769
@jasonlommen4769 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I like hearing both guys perspective. Zl1 power/torque is bad ass, but I’m still taking the Mustang. I just like the look better, high rpm motor and sound.
@MrDouchoid
@MrDouchoid 6 жыл бұрын
This is better than any video your previous channel has.
@mortenberg2897
@mortenberg2897 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. My choice: Mustang, hands down
@megaman5125
@megaman5125 6 жыл бұрын
Having driven all for several days each, I'd rank the regular ZL1 (not 1LE) better than the gt350, hellcats, Z06, Viper.
@markmcintyre4707
@markmcintyre4707 6 жыл бұрын
You have that right..
@timothywolleck7628
@timothywolleck7628 6 жыл бұрын
Horse power and torque do not equal a better driving experience. I did not realize this until I got my Shelby. The sound of the Shelby is just amazing and brings a smile to my face every time I start it. The revs just go forever. The driving position and visibility is much better in the Shelby and I like sitting up higher. For me the Camaro is hard to see out of and feels bigger and heavier, not sure if it is. I have no complaints about the interior except I would like a better stereo. I love the alcantara wrapped steering wheel but longevity could be an issue.
@robertsmith5475
@robertsmith5475 6 жыл бұрын
The camaro is actually smaller but weighs 100pounds more between these trims
@alexchevez8768
@alexchevez8768 6 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wolleck you're full of s***
@Lateralgrip
@Lateralgrip 6 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmith5475 160lbs difference if you have the no frills base R. No A/C, radio, rear seat, sound deadening etc. The weight difference can be felt just like the power difference.
@cobras559
@cobras559 6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with common sense. Best drivers car today is the gt350 all day! Man that camaro is ugly with that ricer wing
@Lateralgrip
@Lateralgrip 6 жыл бұрын
@@cobras559 ricer wing? You meant racers wing. This is standard aero used in many professional racing divisions.
@billyrichardson3075
@billyrichardson3075 5 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 2019 ZL1 1LE and I cannot find the words to tell you how much I love it. I love the "race car" feel, a little rougher ride. Honestly, the Zl1 1LE is a bad ass looking car and it really is a beast. As far as "the view" out of the ZL1, it's not as bad as they say, you just have to drive it long enough to get used to it. There is nothing I don't like about this car.
@mitchray5758
@mitchray5758 5 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best comparison I have ever seen. It is so refreshing to see legit people talk about two fine cars. Great job to everyone involved. Excellent format. Sure beats watching some young punk borrow a car he can't afford from a dealer and quoting stuff he has read on the internet but does not understand. I have never made a comment for a video before, but I feel this one well deserves accolades.
@mjr2470
@mjr2470 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the comparison with the gt500
@EAGLINWRX
@EAGLINWRX 5 жыл бұрын
The point was that they were the same price
@raptorthefish3842
@raptorthefish3842 5 жыл бұрын
Camaro zl1 1le still faster
@mjr2470
@mjr2470 5 жыл бұрын
@@raptorthefish3842 I just like the looks of the stang a little better. just my preference. theyre both sweet ass rides though.
@cm01
@cm01 5 жыл бұрын
@@mjr2470 I guess the nice thing about the 350R is that you'll only get attention from car guys rather than a bunch of know-nothings.
@mjr2470
@mjr2470 5 жыл бұрын
yea backhandedly I get it based on the low amount of gt 350s vrs the amount of 500gt's
@CalvinGroover
@CalvinGroover 6 жыл бұрын
lets not forget the camaro has an actual arm rest for the driver lol
@yikesvikes
@yikesvikes 4 жыл бұрын
Now, more than a year after this video was made, I'd say compare the 2019 Shelby GT500, and both guys would be singing a different tune.
@DVRKSTXR
@DVRKSTXR 4 жыл бұрын
Never did I think I would see the day where Bumblebee looks more aggressive and mean than Barricade.
@victorrodriguez9682
@victorrodriguez9682 6 жыл бұрын
THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN THE BEST REVIEW OF BOTH CARS
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