My Take On The School Peers As The Knight

[@Frddy_-sh8so]

the knight is the knight

[@rise7283]

How are you so sure about this?

[@Frddy_-sh8so]

@@rise7283 just a thought

[@FabbeNJ369]

:O

[@uhhcallmejefe]

True!!!

[@tioraidh-tux]

what if there were two knights and the knight was both of them

[@cha0s.198]

Noelle thinks "that isnt like you" about everyone huh

[@guiltyflygon]

I've been trying to sneak it in everywhere lol

[@sarafontanini7051]

it will get more wrapped and silly the sillier we go with these theories

[@demonssinglosongs]

just a small thing about berdly "dying" disproving him being the knight - while im not fully on board with berdly knight theory, i do think that this might be what makes the "weird route" so weird to begin with. the knight is dead, the prophecy is falling apart and everything is going wrong. def worth thinking about!

[@noobpoob3889]

"Reaching it's long hand to the sky..." TEMMIE CAN STRETCH IT'S LIMBS, TEMMIE KNIGHT CONFIRMED!!!

[@Sad_Mercy]

temmilion dark fountains!!!!

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Catti is such an interesting character and i can't wait for her to get more involved in the plot. I'm sure she's gonna join in on a future dark world with Jockington by her side. Kinda like a witch and her familiar

[@sarafontanini7051]

Jockington's her weapon. That's their origin story!

[@CalamitasCalliope]

@@sarafontanini7051 she uses him as a whip in a special bullet pattern

[@The_Hehe_66]

Everyone is missing the obvious answer: The school janitor. Who else would have closed the closet door in Chapter 1?

[@DogDogGodFog]

Actually, I just realized that the closet door closing is an argument against both Susie knight and Kris knight

[@mr.toothy]

I think that Susie is meant to be a T-Rex. She has the typical rounded snout of one, her teeth are very prominent and also bright yellow (Possibly playing off the fun fact that T-Rex’s teeth were the size of a banana), She has similarities to king and her room in the castle has a crown motif ( Tyrannosaurus Rex means Tyrant Lizard King in Latin after all), The whole Susiezilla thing could be reference the fact that Godzilla was a dinosaur that became mutated due to Nuclear testing (At least in the king Ghidohra movie he was) And most importantly the name “Susie” feels like it could be a reference to Sue, the name given to the largest T-Rex specimen ever discovered. Doesn’t really have anything to do with her being the Knight or not, just thought it was neat.

[@PNats-fg4bw]

Also her name's not Susan???

[@chuckles2364]

@@PNats-fg4bw sus

[@chandlerredding721]

The truth is that there are two knights and they are Kris and Berdly. Snowgrave just has us taking out the competition for main villain. Also it would be super funny to have killed the knight several chapters early.

[@mell7249]

"Just enjoy your freedom... While it lasts" Pizzapants at the end of Chapter 1 "Meet the Rogue's Gallery" Pizzapants also at the end of Chapter 1 (The song that plays before King and also Queen's fight is called Gallery, likely referencing the phrase rogue's gallery) + He has a character portrait + all the ICE-E connections That's all I've got but I really want Pizzapants Knight to be true 😢

[@Videospiel-Man5730]

Pizza pants knight truthers!

[@AltName7]

25:05 The egg that "left due to happiness" was not the pipis that Spamton gave to Noelle. (Second theorist I've seen mix these two up recently.) During the Q&A section of the Spamton Sweepstakes, Spamton did confirm that elemental pairs are a thing though.

[@guiltyflygon]

Is it straight up confirmed it's not? I guess it's hard to tell due to it being Spamton telling us lol. He says Noelle isn't his mom, but that he sent her a pipis. Later he says that a white egg is [another man's treasure] probably referencing the egg man behind the tree, however he also claims only his friends can call Pipis eggs. If he considers Noelle his friend, which the [Hochi Mama] post seems to imply, then he's referring to Noelle calling his gift of pipis an egg in the [another man's treasure] post. Plus the egg multiplies like Pipis seem to do when you encounter one in battle and it's called a "special" pet much like Spamton likes to use specil, so it all seems to tie together pretty well in my opinion... I don't know, did I miss something?

[@Flynnisthename]

@@guiltyflygonit’s confirmed. It’s a white egg, so it’s not a pipis. The “another man’s treasure” refers to the secret eggs in the chapters. It’s even described as making the same noise. We know this egg is white because of temmie and placing it in the store.

[@PkLUIGI]

Pizzapants IS introduced with a dramatic unmasking...while in an ICE-E costume...

[@1slayer959]

12:05 Same reason susie and kris stumbled into a dark world. A pitch black room isn't strange. The dark world darkness is so dark it's off putting, but it's not a reason for normal people to turn and run, screaming bloody murder

[@paradoxicaloutcome1007]

Seriously, I don't understand why people keep bringing up the idea that the library dark fountain has to be made after Noelle and Berdly enter because "why would Noelle and Berdly enter the pitch black room". When people see a room that's darker than it should be, their first reaction usually isn't "It's obviously magic, I better not go in there!" Berdly and Noelle's reaction to the computer room's darkness was probably be the same as Susie and Kris; they found it weird and creepy... and then they entered anyway because they were here to study and people don't generally drop what they're doing and run away at the sight of a dark room, no matter how creepy.

[@1slayer959]

@@paradoxicaloutcome1007 yeah. It's like everyone forgets what it's like to step into a dark room and fumble around for a switch. Being put off by darkness isn't a sign of demons at work or something like that. It's in human (and In this case monster) nature to fear what you can't see. But after that. Unless you're a literal toddler, who's petrified by darkness. The next step is usually to go. "Well, I better turn the lights on" and step in

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

@@paradoxicaloutcome1007 Except, from DF potrayal they aren't just 'darker than it should be', they're *glowing* with darkness. Which is pretty weird.

[@Stoopid420]

I do agree with this, but I don't think the main argument is if they actually walked into the room before the fountain was made. I think it is how they put their books on the table and had them open, implying that they actually were studying before going into the dark world. I cannot remember if this is actually the case since I have not played the game in ages.

[@1slayer959]

@@Stoopid420 that point holds slightly more weight. Course there's always the meta explanation of it not being THAT thought out.

[@chucknorris2913]

In reference to Susie's how, Pretty sure her weapon's real world equivalent is her hair based on the first weapons name and it's in game description. "Mane Ax: Beginner's ax *forged* in from the mane of a dragon whelp." Mane is a type of hair/fur. (could also belong to a pet?)

[@superlagbro192]

Her weapon type is brushes. The default one is a hairbrush with a lot of hair on it, and the mecha-axe is an electric toothbrush.

[@spacealien3073]

Honestly when it comes to Burgerpant's vague animal species I always interpreted him as being a chihuahua just because they're very excitable scrawny looking dogs that sorta remind me of him for whatever reason. Who knows if Toby was thinking of those dogs when making him though lol

[@monotonekai1502]

WOOOOH BURGERPANTS KNIGHT

[@Solibrae]

39:55 Sweet Cap'n Cakes have done at least one important thing: Rebuild the Trash Machine for Rouxls Kaard to use, which then also is necessary for the Delta Warriors to defeat Giga Queen. I guess you do know this and just forgot, though!

[@gretchling5012]

ftr, spamton is cat type because (at least from what he told us) puppet and cat are paired elements. the cat petterz origin thing for him was directly refuted in the same Q&A

[@DogDogGodFog]

I feel like Spamton's take-a-vacation-to-hell line is there for the sake of furthering the parallel between him and Burgerpants. I mean, it already feels as if one of them was written to mimic the other.

[@rfurthegamer3412]

I mean references can be story relevant.

[@doommustard8818]

The spamton sweepstakes has spamton telling us about elemental pairs. One of the pairs was "cats and puppets" I think this was during the q&a section after someone asked if he was a cat. He also said that the cat petters egg was "someone else's treasure" but that he did give Noelle a pipis as a gift for reading his emails. "You think that [hochi mama] is my [mama hochi]? No that egg is [someone else's treasure]." That's why he's a "cat" element. Given the significance that control plays on the theming pairing cats and puppets could be hinting at cattie playing an important role. Worth noting he also listed holy and electric as paired. Which is something we have confirmed through data mining the sky mantle. Paired elements appear to have the same number in the code.

[@sarafontanini7051]

let's face it characters with face portraits are more likely candidates to become party members should that be what toby fox is going for.

[@krisspychissp]

Holy [[CONGEDERO]] Thats a lot of [[YOU’RE KILLING ME!]] [[YOI’RE KILLING ME!]] 23:46

[@Fat_Tony4224]

Unironically burgerpants knight makes more sense than most of these tbh.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

If shopkeeps are important characters, perhaps the knight is brand newer character based off Morshu or Uhsrom since KEYGEN is a reference to a ytp (the king downloads Sony Vegas)

[@leritykay8911]

34:45 "And you know his Halberd looks like a horse, I dunno, like riding on a horse into battle" Also, you know. There's a minor fact that a Knight is represented by a horse in chess

[@SuperBatSpider]

King would shove Berdly in a locker

[@tetrisbit]

23:44 a fellow adblock user

[@guiltyflygon]

I knew I was forgetting to cut something lol

[@A_Repeating_Paradox]

For temmie, there is that weird moment where they say you couldn't even envision what they have planned after college, which was weirdly omninous given the correct grammar they used

[@fbi.real100notfake2]

am i the only one who thinks this guy sounds extrememly similar to Jaru lmao

[@celaine_]

I love these prediction videos so much! Thank you for always making them. I listen to them while doing homework and on runs

[@i010001]

Susie is probably not THE Knight But she's argued that Dark Worlds are better and when sealing the chapter 2 fountain says that things have gotten better since they have appeared. With the Dark Knight class, rejecting the prophecy point blank, constantly questioning, changing, and undermining the rules of the dark world and the battle system... ...Well. There may well be a chance she'll open a fountain at some point

[@Flynnisthename]

But temmie draws the fountains from the earth….. get it?

[@CR1MSONACE]

You forgot that Temmie (creature) likes hot demon guys. Clearly the perfect motive to bring about the roaring, burning in hell with them or letting them escape to the surface.

[@ajojofann]

proof

[@CR1MSONACE]

@@ajojofann Chapter 1 library

[@ajojofann]

@@CR1MSONACE i agree with temmie

[@RonZ234]

We can all agree that sans the school janitor is the knight

[@madmads4763]

Screw it, I’m all in on Tem knight

[@AlexTheChaosFox1996]

Jockington might be a venomous kind of snake, and he could use his fangs as blades 🤔

[@percorset]

It's my belief that if any character is going to be the knight it's not going to be one who was in undertale, It would be really weird for toby to make a pre established character into the main villain.

[@QSBraWQ]

Wait I just realized. The speaking of communion did you know the night and then about hell might be foreshadowing to next location. Eta, ice e dark fountain

[@tornado4376]

Susie playing the long con all this time would be pretty cool especially with the "dark knight" thing being right in front of our faces from the start XD The thing that this video has made me ask the most though is does Ralsei know or not know who the knight is?

[@lipeanimado]

makes me think about how the age of the knight could influence their motivations

[@Flynnisthename]

The craziest part of this video is that you don’t think burgerpants is a cat

[@rfurthegamer3412]

He is clearly a hamster thing

[@whybother5741]

16:28 wait wasn’t the point that Berdly spelled December PERFECTLY and now he has to deal with the expectations of everyone now thinking he’s “the smart kid?”

[@guiltyflygon]

He did spell it perfectly, I was mostly just insulting how long it took him lol. Also, at least in my interpretation he wants that adulation for being the smart kid, it's the fear of people finding out he isn't that he struggles to deal with. Either way it still serves more to set up Joelle and Dess that actually give Berdly a comprehensive arc, especially a villain one lol.

[@godslaughter]

I just need to know something - how does the Knight leave. We know Susie and Kris can just leave the Castletown world, but Ralsei specifically said that they need to close the unused classroom fountain to be able to go home. How did the Knight leave if that were the case, if they used the exit of Castletown, would Ralsei have not seen them? If not, why would Ralsei lie? There is one possibility that comes to mind here - the backstory of the world is preset by the one who opens the fountain. Just like we could see it at the end of Chapter 2, Kris was walking around while the Darkness was filling the room. If the Knight had opened the fountain and left before it had filled the entire room, that would make sense. We may have made fun of MatPat's roleplaying theory but I don't think it should be completely ignored. This could actually explain the confusing, non-linear passage of time - the time is preset by the creator because the backstory requires it, while the experiences of the objects also fill the story with additional info as backstories for Darkner characters. You could create a roleplaying session that had 5 billion years of prehistory and all of that can happen in an instant because you are the creator. That's how Spamton can have a history, how Seam and Jevil can have a history, how Queen became more cruel a while ago. Because it's "lore".

[@sarafontanini7051]

meanwhile my theory is that the knight didn't exactly "go into" the dark world like the ehroes do, and merely interacts with it from outside somehow

[@guiltyflygon]

I can't remember which video it was in, but I theorized that the closet door being slammed shut is what also stopped us from accessing that exit in Castle Town. So, essentially, a sliver of light leaking into the darkness creates an exit back to the light world. If there was a sliver of light leaking into the Unused Classroom (say from the windows in the hallway that cast light at the end of the day) the Knight could have used that to escape then blocked light from entering the closet door so they could easily make their escape without being seen by Kris/Susie. I'm not sure it totally lines up spatially, but it adds credence to a line Seam says which is: "You should hurry home once you finish your business here. You don't want to get caught when the sun goes down..." In other words, if you don't hurry you'll be trapped here until sunrise. It also would have implications for Dess potentially being trapped in a dark world.

[@t.k.5088]

Mane axe could be a razor. It's related to hair/grooming and it's a blade 🤔

[@AlexTheChaosFox1996]

Catti being a "Knight" candidate makes sense because of her keen interest in the occult and supernatural

[@hi-ougidemonfang]

15:20 you say he has no hands but have you considered if he used a glove. :0 a sports glove.

[@guiltyflygon]

:0

[@jackala3958]

Berdly Knight has to be true because it would be funny

[@emireri2387]

it would be funny but sadly quantum mechanics isnt real in the deltarune universe, and as such berdly cannot be both hiding in the closet and studying at the same time

[@sumthinorother9615]

@@emireri2387 Berdly would make it real he’s just that much of a gamer

[@Pepsiman1848]

@@emireri2387we don’t know for a fact he was in the closet. Maybe he dropped a pen under the table, where Noelle wouldn’t see it as he made the fountain.

[@Slenderquil]

​@@Pepsiman1848I really love this idea. It would be a fantastic explanation if the knight ends up being multiple people

[@emireri2387]

@@Pepsiman1848 i feel like the roaring would have happened before chapter 1 if a dropped pen could create a dark foundtain

[@lourdespachla6516]

I hugged a cat My cat is da knight

[@Devari_Cogison]

Maybe the real knight was the friends we made along the way.

[@mintyflores7378]

Monsters have determination in Deltarune so Berdly shouldn't have turned to dust when he died in snowgrave

[@JonathanMeyer-o4m]

not necessarily, we had no concept of dark worlds in Undertale, I think it's a reasonable possibility that determination simply follows different rules in Deltarune, so until we see it happen, i don't think we should assume that monster bodies don't turn to dust on death. Berdley might be fallen down in Snowgrave, or maybe monsters just don't turn to dust in Deltarune's world. I don't think its a good idea to use Undertale's worldbuilding to support Deltarune lore/theories

[@dogferret]

@@JonathanMeyer-o4m yeah, deltarune also never uses the word "determination", it always uses synonyms so i also think that the worldbuilding around that is atleast slightly different

[@mintyflores7378]

@@JonathanMeyer-o4m I completely forgot about falling down to be honest

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

@@dogferret No, it actually does. Queen says (about opening Dark Fountains) "This power of will... This power of determination... Isn't this what all Lightners possess?... So if the Knight has taken its leave... then I will simply make another one..." or something like this (I'm pretty sure it's pretty exact quote, but it's from memory, so it may be wrong). But she uses "determination" 100%.

[@TheCubifyer]

​@@dogferretIt is used once in Queens speech about the knight.

[@uhhcallmejefe]

Nice

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Next video sure will be dusty....

[@ShinyYas]

I had to pause the video to say, how dare you make me consider the potential love square???? Now I'm shipping Catti and Noelle, thanks! (half joking)

[@skeletonlover3214]

Cool Videos

[@Pangolin-6312]

Cool

[@a-symmetric8326]

Starwalker is the Knight

[@guiltyflygon]

lol

[@rfurthegamer3412]

The original Starwalker? Or these birds (are pissing me off)

[@CalamitasCalliope]

PIZZAPANTS SWEEP

[@tearsofthekingdom9062]

I don’t think Berdly is the knight. His whole personality was teacher pet and gamer. The school has already been done, and the video game trope has already been done so he doesn’t have enough depth. That’s not a bad thing but just not knight worthy as of chapter 2

[@drdca8263]

Just because he isn’t the knight doesn’t mean he can’t be the night?

[@tearsofthekingdom9062]

Oop