Destiny Lore - The Complete Story of The Darkness! [Timeline and Lore explained]

The Complete Story & Lore of The Darkness, our great enemy in Destiny! From the time before the creation of the universe, to the arrival of the pyramid ships in our solar system we'll be learning the story of the enigmatic Winnower & its war with the Traveller!
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[@MynameisByf]

Quick notes to everyone who's watching! Firstly, Clovis Bray's story isn't in this video due to the time of its release and the overlap it had with our production schedule. Separate video soon for that tale. Secondly, Everyone should give a huge hand to Drexis, Ginsor, Judsub, Cinemamotions, Tulus, Blessious, MoonVald, Emblyne, Owllock & all the others who helped to create this video. Without them this video would not exist!

[@jetstreamattano4176]

Hi

[@nainidsouza6940]

Sup Byf

[@nainidsouza6940]

@Gaming_hunter138 gg me or no

[@andrewfreeman699]

You are cool

[@Sylph8141]

Will we get a review of the full journal?

[@zanolsena]

Destiny 2: Doesn't have enough cutscenes Byf: "Fine, I'll do it myself"

[@magicbutterpoptart]

byf: "you want something to be epic, I guess you gotta do it yourself!"

[@alvehyanna]

Seriously though. It doesnt. Destiny is my favorite lore in my 25 years of MMORPG/FPS ..but they SUCK at telling that story. I will say, there seems to be a lot more so far this season and it's REALLY helping. 1/2 clan doesnt know the story because they dont read lore tabs. I HATE reading lore tabs to learn the MAIN story. In-game dialogue cant even be call the Cliff Notes version. It's just so bare bones.

[@gunnart1305]

@@alvehyanna while I wish they were better at story telling... I’ve kind of embraced the fever dream that is destiny. I think they’ve acknowledged they will never tell a successful story so they go with it too.

[@zohaibusmani7154]

Like check.

[@df36367]

Honestly, there too much lore. The cutscenes would amount to hundreds of hours. Byf's channel for example...

[@napkin170]

So basically darkness is just: Kill or Be killlled. Dismantle mines yesssss.

[@smokeyson]

Retreat to airlock guardian

[@thess7156]

@@smokeyson bruh when I read that I heard the airlock noise.

[@thekneecapcrew5473]

[insect like chattering]

[@fxllenk1ngf4n]

*Accept the darkness inside yourself. In light, there is only weakness.*

[@DronesOverTheMoon]

yeah its literally the embodiment of the logic of the sword

[@theGman404]

Research site that slowly drives all involved mad and wipes out crew Shaxx: Sounds like a good spot for the Crucible!

[@brucethebruce2250]

I thought exactly this...

[@magicbutterpoptart]

shaxx: "i need more crucible places..." random citizen: " hey did you hear about that research place on the moon? they say that it drove all of them mad and apparently all of them died.. they say that place is basically haunted..." shaxx: " ghost... get my ship! i found a new place "

[@wiley_coyotelu3808]

Totally read this in Shaxx's voice

[@Trinioutsider34]

Sounds more like something out of Deadspace. With the Markers and people going crazy.

[@DollarStoreAbomination]

This is funny But a cool fact is that it is a Simulation!

[@yanipheonu]

To this day, a Pyramid being on the moon is still a badass twist "THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE SOLAR SYSTEM"

[@kylelopez7631]

Comes back from moon:" moons haunted" Scientist: "what?" Astronaut: "loads pistol. Moons haunted"

[@hunterofthenorth4482]

@@kylelopez7631 > Guardian walks off ship, nowhere in sight Guardian: Moon's Taken Zavala: Wha- Guardian: *grabs Gjallarhorn* Moon's. Taken. >Guardian walks back onto the ship and takes off without any further words

[@DavidManser]

@@hunterofthenorth4482 > Shaw Han + Banshee : hand out Gjallarhorns recovered from Wet Willies Dungeon > Starhorse : *winnies in infinite appreciation* > Xur : runs a game show for Guardians > Zavala : WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED ON THE MOON?! >Guardian : Shit got real weird, real quick, now, hand me those Wolf Pack rounds and that Sidearm for a giant from another universe will ya? I need to go kill Crota... 69 times!

[@nikolaiorelov9305]

One of the best twists destiny has ever had and the single best part of shadowkeeps story

[@aidansilvia2663]

Sleep Paralysis IRL: oh no I can’t move Sleep Paralysis in Destiny: *S A L V A T I O N*

[@bingusaerospace]

*C O M M I T S A L V A T I O N* *Y E S S S S S S S*

[@askirii2141]

@@bingusaerospace D I S M A N T L E M I N E S Y E E E E E E E E S S S S S?

[@noahberg6289]

ur not wrong XD

[@halosky258]

@@askirii2141 Still wake up in a cold sweat after hearing that in my sleep...

[@bingusaerospace]

@@askirii2141 *O R R R R R R R R* *Y O U D I E*

[@that_guyu_know6019]

Byf: tries to explain the darkness Destiny: "Congratulations! your clan has won +250 xp!"

[@cincinlovag4647]

and 28 Glimmer

[@fluke7506]

@@cincinlovag4647 and 3 blues

[@DY-ch4ws]

@@fluke7506 FUCK YEAH!

[@colbystarr1744]

Rasputin: Hey make sure not to go into that room with the darkness ball or it might drive you insane. Shaxx: Oh you mean that room we're using for crucible matches. Rasputin: ...

[@toastermkii7836]

Nah don’t worry someone already ate the artifact.

[@ITACHIUCHIHA-qc6fe]

Rasputin:" ok fine hold my orbital balls you dumb bastard"

[@philbattiste9649]

Firewall communicated with the warmind, so if anyone wants to know what really happened at K1, I guess we'd need to go through him.

[@legendofacriuswithornament2019]

Well Shaxx is corruptes already

[@Cryptxwx]

Really explains why crucible players act like that

[@ArrowsInTheMoon]

"The story... of the darkness." *Amazon prime ad plays*

[@doomguy4522]

Mr. Bezos... Something you're not telling us?

[@ukulelecovers5438]

Mine is Doritos and Xbox

[@Azakadune]

I knew it…

[@kieronfarley1924]

Meanwhile I got Forex, the true evil of investing, or perhaps it is capitalism itself which is evil, damm byf giving me a lot to think about 😂

[@Gurtington]

I got a Kings raid ad right then lmao

[@neekumikuvt328]

I THOUGHT THE INTRO WAS REAL. HOLY CRAP THAT WAS SO GOOD. PLEASE TELL ME THIS PERSON HAS BEEN SCOUTED BY BUNGIE

[@moonknight87]

I was like” is this a really good Blender?!”

[@aidedwarrior2413]

Wait it’s not real?

[@sergiarilla8608]

@@aidedwarrior2413 Made specially for this video :) it's not official

[@i.currie1543]

@@aidedwarrior2413 it’s not, though it is really well done there are a few quirks that give away its not real. First off there are a few camera motions that bungie doesn’t use like the whip pan at 00:57 also there are the few motions quirks that are very common when people use models that aren’t theirs as they have to work around limitations they didn’t create

[@shebdjsnwddjdnbssjbdbdbejd5589]

@@i.currie1543 He’s still talented and obviously passionate, he did the animation all himself. Imagine if he had the resources that bungie has.

[@known4232]

How much of your life’s saving did you throw at this video Jesus. 10/10

[@amko6358]

@@jamesryan4425 LMFAO

[@mozzarellacheese896]

@@jamesryan4425 no his name is my name is byf

[@xmasso2k12]

@@mozzarellacheese896 damn bro you got the whole squad laughing

[@user-nw2hq4kg8h]

xD

[@pratik20813]

@@mozzarellacheese896 actually its lore daddy

[@MW-GC]

I vote Byf if they ever need a voice actor for the darkness version of the speaker

[@domphillips4217]

Now that is a big brain idea

[@Lucy-gz8ew]

the darkness speaker would probably be elsie right

[@davidcook2873]

@@Lucy-gz8ew Well now yeah, didn't really anticipate her taking on that role when I posted originally.

[@monekmeyhem4261]

David Cook I would guess Eris over Elsie

[@Lucy-gz8ew]

@@monekmeyhem4261 eris also makes sense she study’s the darkness(?) while elsie is just a user of it

[@suprizeoptomist4680]

Gardener: I always tell the truth. Winnower: one of us always lies.

[@archoninferno]

My brain hurts now

[@Raptor052]

Shoot one, ask them who you shot. Easy.

[@iconicyello]

@@Raptor052 this guy is going places

[@gatorwarrior7557]

What kind of tzeench fuckery is this

[@sirsanti8408]

Just ask a question everyone knows the answer to

[@KnowerOfThing]

Bungie: Creates ARG Community: Solves ARG Byf: Drops a dank lore video Coincidence? I think not.

[@gregbridge]

what was the ARG?

[@kingkensei1292]

@@gregbridge There were gifs every collectors edition had. So everyone had to submit their gif. At first there is nothing shown however someone figured out that if you line up the gifs so that they play 400 miliseconds after each other they show letters. And so the same person created a program which recorded all the letters shown. All of these letters made a couple of pages of lore which was missing from the collectors editions. (in the collectors edition there was a book full of lore however there were pages ripped out and so this ARG recovered those pages.) The lore hints at the new raid boss.

[@lateachiever5046]

Hello brother

[@KnowerOfThing]

LateAchiever 504 ah, I see you are a man of culture.

[@KnowerOfThing]

Dodgy Malaka I see you are not.

[@anthonyfanchin1144]

“I am the vanguard of your destruction.” “We are your salvation.”

[@Ghostvirus]

"The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished." "There are laws that govern the workings of the universe that have remained immutable for countless aeons. According to these laws, the forces of light and dark hold dominion over the world successively, the land belonging in turn to men, or to monsters." - Myth II Epilogue "Each cycle would be presaged by the appearance of a great comet, foretelling the rise of saviour or destroyer. Each golden age would give way to one of darkness, when foul things would stir beneath the earth, and evil spirits would plague the land. In turn, each dark age would fall to one of light; the evil would pass from the land just as the comet from the sky. " - Myth II Epilogue Patterns!

[@cellano5223]

Sovereign is that you? ;)

[@amko6358]

glad to see a fellow Mass Effect fan.

[@sunny-sq6ci]

I'm a titan and this is my favorite streamer in the citadel.

[@leftwardglobe1643]

"We've watched while the stars burned out, and creation played in reverse. The universe freezing in half light. Once I thought to escape. To end the end a master. Step out of the path of collapse. Escape would make us god. Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma. A hybrid, elusive destroyer. This is the only mystery I have not solved. The only element unaccounted for. Even S'Bhuth is no more. He saved his entire race, but in the end, frozen by despair, he joined the chaos he sought to evade. But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern. Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild. Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know what you are. You are destiny." - Durandal, Marathon Infinity end screen. Just as the Light and dark are primordial entities trapped in endless combat, so are we. Shifting from universe to universe, acting as a mediator. The eternal warrior, whose fight shall never be finished.

[@Kingjustin1019]

Me: *Gets Stasis* Traveler: *Sweats* Also Me: *Murders everything* The Darkness: *Sweats*

[@nullandvoid7524]

@Biggest Richard Cranium Where? Lol

[@adbon6279]

@@nullandvoid7524 Have you not played against it in PvP?

[@nullandvoid7524]

@@adbon6279 Yes, Revenants are infinitely more infuriating

[@Targeted_1ndividual]

Wouldn't murdering everything be exactly what the darkness wants? Sounds like sword logic to me chief.

[@archoninferno]

@@Targeted_1ndividual I use both the Sword logic and Bomb logic, what logic you use is situational in my opinion

[@moonknight87]

You forgot to mention that weird period of Zavala having us partake in guardian games while the darkness are moving on our system

[@WhoisPersona]

Dreksis Animations knocked it out of the park with that opening cinematic. There are some really talented people in this fandom.

[@ReverseUpended]

I swear I thought it was a cutscene at the beginning

[@Fier07112]

Wow.... I was checking the comments to see if this was real or not!!! Would be dope if Bungie sees this and uses this cutscene in game!!!!

[@zarcon666]

Thought it was a D2 cutscene, then my jaw slowly dropped!!

[@tffocgrimlokthesivamind5375]

@@ReverseUpended same

[@vloneiffay6398]

that’s not a cutscene? imma sub to that mans only fans.

[@iananderson3142]

Me: "Why would I follow the darkness? I save lives... I'm a good guy!" The Darkness: "Have you ever crushed a spider beneath your boot without a second thought?" Me: "Damn the darkness kinda got a point tho"

[@youkindacute6898]

@Aidan Hall Indeed

[@aurorablade5450]

@Aidan Hall reading your comment now makes me wheeze lol

[@aurorablade5450]

@Aidan Hall same but prolly not for the same reason lol I love Variks

[@zaijx2339]

@Aidan Hall yeah but he didn’t mean to kill Cayde it’s just that Cayde is a show off and a dumbass at times.

[@Will_Kempkes]

Like the exo stranger said "good can come out of darkness, just as evil has come from light" (or something like that)

[@alexstephens2847]

Some timestamps to help you navigate this absolute masterpiece of a video: Introduction - 0:00 Origins of Darkness (Gardener/Winnower and Books of Sorrow) - 6:40 The Anomaly (K1) - 27:24 The Collapse - 49:10 Black Garden - 1:10:10 Return of Shadow (Ghaul, Calus, and the Chronicon) - 1:06:17 A Drifter's Warning (Drifter, Gambit, and the Nine) - 1:11:02 The Shadows Beneath (Shadowkeep) - 1:16:10 Encroaching Menace (Season of the Worthy) - 1:25:51 The Arrival - 1:28:18 Closing - 1:33:08 If I missed anything or got the times wrong, let me know!

[@ncl6822]

16:26 majestic, majestic

[@dredgensaw]

Thanks a lot

[@howardbrandon11]

Very late to the party, but your Black Garden timestamp is off (1:01:10 not 1:10:10).

[@Ghost-hs6qq]

@@ncl6822 Indeed

[@Chickencow11]

The anomaly 100% is just him reading an scp article.

[@anonymousmind8402]

SCP 2019 (K1 Anomaly) Clearance Level: 3 (Secret) [Only researchers and senior staff can access this document] Object Class: Safe [Only means that it does nothing actively harmful when left alone] Disruption Class: Vlam [Dangerous to only a handful of people when nearby] Risk Class: Warning [Anomalous effects are moderate to significant] Threat level: Yellow [Object is dangerous but can be easily contained] Special Containment Procedures: Due to the mass of the object, SCP-2019 is to be contained on-site at Site-2014 inside a specialised containment cell. [...] Personnel are allowed access to SCP-2019 at least up to ~2 hours~ 30 minutes for 'Clarity occurrence'. [...]. Firewall.aic is to remain on-site to maintain constant psychological assessments of all staff members of Site-2014.

[@joshj1953]

Stop smearing the shit that is SCP all over the anus that is KZbin

[@baitposter]

@@joshj1953 _Popular thing bad NYEH_ Go participate in the votes and discussions, or only read the highest voted articles if you don't want shit SCPs

[@goldenyak629]

My fear is this - not that the Darkness will destroy us, but that through the Darkness we will turn into the new Hive. The horror of an eternity of humanity carving apart the universe, killing and dominating everything so that it can never potentially kill or dominate us. The true threat of the Darkness has never been what it could do to us, but what it is offering to do _for_ us.

[@dingoatemybaby6]

That would be cool thi

[@coreyhodges7419]

Just to clarify, the Hive don’t (yet) use powers gifted to them by the Darkness. The sword logic drives the “kill em all” mentality of the Hive, and is payment for the powers gifted to them by the worm gods. Whatever the case, your reason for fearing the Darkness makes sense, and is one of many dreadful scenarios imagined by us all. Ultimately, the scariest thing about the powers offered to us by the Darkness is that the Darkness has asked for nothing in return...

[@royshaltiel6398]

This is the most true and accurate take I’ve seen on the darkness. Bravo

[@mdbb4054]

So basically humans will be humans but better

[@adarkwind4712]

Any power which comes with a corrupting will cannot be efficiently used. Because eventually the very power which you used to protect will, without your realization, be used to enslave. It will remold your mind and that which you were will be long gone.

[@transgender_F-117]

genuinely can't tell if the opening was a cutscene mixed with editing or just an animation cuz damn, that was cLEAn chief

[@JCTaylor0000]

Seriously I dont know either, did bungie make that cutscene cuz I never seen it before?

[@filwilliamson9149]

@@JCTaylor0000 Pretty sure it’s fan made. It’s similar to some cinematics, but there are a few differences.

[@smuketbuket6486]

It looks to good to be a Cinematic

[@XBullitt16X]

Me neither, I was wondering fi itw as cutscene or not.

[@eugenecoleman8525]

"Whatever killed the K1 crew didn't care for their survival." Lol

[@donovanofarrell3986]

I literally spent the first 10 minutes of this video trying to figure out how I missed the opening cutscene in my playthrough. It was actually that hard to believe it wasn’t a bungie cutscene. Nice one, Byf.

[@pastelsunset]

10:01 Byf: (trying to get a cool background for his lore video) Clan XP notification: 👀

[@benvanzon3234]

A little later... +28 Glimmer

[@OriionCygnus]

Guardians: I dont care about the lore Byf: DO NOT LIE TO ME

[@signalsol25u]

I want to know what gear he’s wearing!!

[@robbiestafford6889]

The fact he kept the same tone throughout the whole video, I’m kinda speechless.

[@therealeyezic]

Wicked coming back here after finding out the Winnower is the goddamn Veil…

[@redohealer2]

This part on the Anomaly almost sounds like some Dead Space work.

[@Ghostvirus]

I definitely noticed that when Shadowkeep released.

[@redohealer2]

@@Ghostvirus which part?

[@Awesomeface2213]

Haven’t reached that bit yet but this comment just means it’s gonna be epic

[@LtCWest]

Is it coincidence then that much of the Europa armor looks like something streight out of DS3? ^^

[@SHELUCKY]

@@LtCWest that’s exactly what I thought especially the titan armor it looks like the first snow suit you get in Ds3

[@BreezeWeezy]

Friendship ended with the Traveller. Now stasis is my new best friend.

[@nigerianhl3811]

Not really, if you check the new lore from the ARG you will understand why the Traveller is the way she is

[@xN0Mii]

@@nigerianhl3811 she? We know the gender?

[@nigerianhl3811]

@@xN0Mii people tend to use her because she is like a mother, a creator or life

[@suprizeoptomist4680]

Fire melts ice?

[@martink3494]

@@nigerianhl3811 like IT was said before "you can try to block it, prevent it, but light will always find it's way." 😉

[@user-wp4yk3nw3g]

So the darkness is: only the strong deserve to live and the weak will die, and the light is the disruption of that balance because it wants all life to have a fair chance to live life to its fullest. The random and sporadical pattern of fair chance upsets the equation of the flower game, that 1+0=1. 1 being the strong and 0 being the weak, the strong are born deserving to live, thus order is guaranteed as the end of the pattern will always be the same, as the outcome is always the same. But the light wants 1+1=2 endlessly, an even chance for all life to grow strong and love each other in appreciation of light's life's answer, peace. If everyone is 2 then there is no gain, nothing to prove, just an endless random pattern of unending life. I get what the darkness wants, order in a chaotic universe that knows no bounds, for the betterment of all life, if you're born a 0, then you won't waste space or have a doomed chance at life, because what's the point in letting something that can't live, live, it's cruel. But but the cruelness of the 1s conquest to end 0, is what ultimately saves 0s from trying to live with a 100% guarantee of failure. Thus keeping order and the flower pattern ending the same over and over. But the light is far more optimistic, chaos breeds chance, if 1+1=2, then surely everything should be a 2, right? If everything is a 2, then everything has an even chance to survive, and thrive, and know the love of living, the world's greatest gift, being able to actually survive. The thrill of the 50% chance to actually make it, knowing you can if you try, and knowing everyone else can too. The flower pattern ends differently everytime, because life is everywhere, blooming without fear for being a 0 or hiding from a 1. Given me something to think about.

[@carlosrivera1070]

Jesus wanted everyone to have a chance sooooo yes.

[@dakurisu3431]

Everyone knows the ultimate power of the universe is a combination of the 2

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

"But the light wants 1+1=2 endlessly" More like the light wants 1+0=2 endlessly. He seeks to rewrite the game by poisoning it with the sustenance of weak forces to add evermore complexity, he doesn't seek to add strength to the equation. Given your strong=1, weak=0 logic he'd be trying to make 1+0=2; which is plainly impossible. This actually makes it easier to understand why The Darkness was fretting so much when the Light was trying to turn itself into a new rule; he saw the pointlessness of the effort. That in the end, 1+0 would still equal 1; because it can be nothing else. It is the final shape. As for which side to "support", The Darkness literally encapsulates the concept of victory itself. Him facing off against The Light can end in no other way besides his W; because he literally embodies such an occurrence. Being strong is never wrong.

[@dakurisu3431]

@@KevinJohnson-cv2no the light simply wanted to give every species a chance to thrive. Keyword chance. The dark simply wanted only the strong through natural selection but the light knew that not all "weak" races were actually weak just Givin a bad lot. The darkness didn't care and could only imagine 1 way for the game to end. The same way it alwase ends the strong over the weak. But Givin a chance to become strong sometimes the weak xan become even better than the strong. I.e humans on earth. Humans have the strongest guiding force of light and soon the powers of the neohumans and the ability to use darkness for the light. Which is unheard of in the galaxy. One of the weakest creatures is becoming the strongest all because we were Givin a chance. That's what the concept of light vs dark is in destiny. The darkness couldn't see into the future only what's has happened before and what's worked before regardless on what could be better. While the light can see the hope of the future and not being endlessly stuck with only 1 answer. While the darkness path will always win is it truly the best?

[@seanmac1793]

I believe that the Flower Game is based on Conway's Game of Life. what they are describing sounds like similar concept, Conway's game has 4 rules, and the flowers are pretty clearly analogous to life and death. Of course the Game of Life is actually a zero player game and is entirely deterministic based on your initial conditions so then obvious question is what to do the Gardener and Winnower represent in this. My initial reaction to the information, not being a destiny lore junkie, is the Gardener represents a desire to create and build complex structures organically out of the simple elements, as Conway envisioned. The Winnower represents the constrains on that desire to create, perhaps you could say the rules of the game, practicality, or something else, regardless it's pretty obvious that the Winnower is constraining force on what the gardener wants to do. You can spin that out into a lot of other messages onto this story as it can have a lot of meaning despite it's relatively simplicity. I think the best way to frame the Gardener's motives, given how the story frames each of these flowers as representing something, is to say that the Gardener wants to give each of the flowers a chance to survive on their own merits as apposed to the Winnower who has determined that certain life isn't worth living. remenber we are hearing this from the Winnower's perspective so it's much more likely that the Gardener basically through a hissy fit than an ideological conflict finally reaching a head.

[@notcrust9108]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time you hear “Majestic”

[@filipjadownicki6790]

Before watching I said the same but Ulan Tan

[@jem5378]

Make sure you got your ghost with you cause ur gonna need to be revived a couple times.

[@Silencersix]

YOOOOOOOOOOOO! YO HOLY SHIT HE DEAD! Oh, he’s dead for sure!

[@alexl8539]

Cooking stream starting soon! Twitch.tv/donutoperator

[@mblackcoat8293]

@@alexl8539 shut up

[@kaiju2296]

> I will be as Virgil > that most majestic thing the universe can create... power Well, I for one am motivated

[@LunaLinkle]

Stormcaller: I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

[@PEEK-A-BOO101]

Dang nice ref even though our boy Byf was referencing Toland's words

[@shorddy1668]

*P* *O* *W* *E* *R*

[@brendanpryce8009]

Foolishness Dante, foolishness...

[@JustAJauneArc]

I AM RECLAIMER OF MY NAME

[@topcaptainpgames7992]

I have my issues with destiny 2 but the game creates this feeling of mystery and dread just at the sight of the pyramids. It's a masterclass in its atmosphere.

[@Epicadi2]

Seeing the evolution of the darkness' story in the last two years is crazy, so much has happened

[@joshlong6733]

Even more has happened 😂

[@W.R.L.D.W]

whoever made the whole backstory of the darkness must have a PhD in philosophy

[@Robert-wf7xu]

You mean basic shit that takes few reads of Wikipedia.

[@Robert-wf7xu]

@Blue Remnant basicly traveler is "Idea" versus Darkness which is "Laws of Nature"

[@thechump10]

@Blue Remnant r/im14andthisisdeep

[@seanslaysean7097]

@@thechump10 beat me to it

[@Adam.Clark.]

THis was figured out a long time ago and 10 year old me could understand it.

[@ragedtank6177]

"But for now, we have more tales of woe to spin" *commercial plays* So bounty is an agent of the darkness?

[@vexile12]

Hamester on a wheel ad for me

[@felixdesjardins4030]

Honda for me hahaha

[@ncl6822]

Jake from state farm uses his insurance policies to lead you too darkness

[@asricklore331]

DORITOS!!! I should have known

[@equinoxruinouseffigy7856]

After reading unveiling I put together somewhat of a rebuttal to the darkness’s philosophy and examples, which while unimportant to most of you, I thought it would still be important to share A world bathed in darkness is a brief hell A world bathed in light is one everlasting A world bathed in neither is one void of possibility A world bathed in both is one of endless possibility

[@matthewbrewer7174]

Exactly. The Traveler and The Pyramid both are essential, and the most important, forces in the universe. They're purpose is to maintain balance. They both need each other just as much as we need both of them.

[@agenda3854]

Bro found the meaning of life in the Destiny lore

[@AdminAbuse]

Ok

[@jw4477]

When you see and hear something this thoughtful. You can feel the passion the creator has over the art form. Again I say fantastic work.

[@sirentity465]

Guardians in beyond light: "I play both sides so that I always come up on top."

[@ChaosAtlantis33]

i was going to make a comment saying something like "Even if we uses these 'evil' powers that doesnt make us evil, it what you do not who you are" then i realised it was just a meme...

[@JM1992]

That the right way

[@jacobhampel8279]

I rather be a power wielding guardian than a darkness or light gaurdian.

[@MarcelJ17]

You’re not supposed to tell both sides that your playing both sides Mac

[@connormac4401]

What if we are not playing both sides, but being used by both sides

[@liamsproule97]

The twitchiness of the dark version of the character is so ominous. That into cutscene is awesome. Great job to everyone involved!

[@jayjam_]

Why doesn't the leviathan go around eating these pyramids one by one to easily solve this problem.

[@lordshaxx2177]

He couldn't even finish parts of the planets it ate, without having to go in them and kill the vex shields, I don't know how this would go, but obviously he didn't want anything to do with it, he ran away

[@jasonsherman6275]

@@lordshaxx2177 Yeah where the hell did Calus bugger off to?

[@Okeen12]

@@jasonsherman6275 calus got sunset and is now weaker than a dreg

[@realslimshaney2210]

Darkness would absolutely demolish the whole cabal race

[@Targeted_1ndividual]

The Leviathan would get indigestion like it did in EoW

[@I_Cant_win_engagements_D2]

Bungie: what makes darkness bad? me: uhhh what about the LITERAL GENOCIDE??? Bungie: I wonder...

[@Sorain1]

The Darkness doesn't have to think it's evil to BE evil ya know Bungie.

[@tommyscott8511]

@@Sorain1 Precisely. Everyone is the hero of their own story. I hate stories like this where it’s like “oooo the laws of nature define life! I simply follow those laws, I’m not evil, I’m necessary!” Like fuck off, I want to be nice, I don’t want to be a Social Darwinist

[@thomasschmelzer7676]

@@tommyscott8511 I think it’s just explaining how the Darkness feels, not necessarily the facts. I’m right there with you. I’m a fucking Guardian, not a genocidal monster.

[@fort809]

@@tommyscott8511 think about our guardians actions in the destiny universe though. We’ve tore through everything weaker than us in the sol system for 7 years now, be they the thousands of dregs we’ve murdered or literal gods like Oryx. We kinda follow the sword logic already, proving to the universe that we should exist by killing everything else in the system that can give us a shiny new gun

[@baitposter]

@@fort809 With the caveat that we also thrive by tribal love, friendship, and symbiotic cooperation whenever available, making us a larger superorganism when we're collectivistic

[@imagoloop4819]

"Your weapons, you will not need them. We offer only truth" -ominous being of darkness

[@jetstreamattano4176]

But what if I do not like your truth, Unfunny triangle creature

[@fishnutz5196]

Yeah yeah see what the darkness says about my Anarchy or DarkDrinker. They all say that

[@mihir2077]

“Only truth” that the Traveler caused the collapse and was responsible for the spawn of the darkness. Dope

[@Hit_by_a_Parked_Car]

“Only a rocket launcher with the highest tracking in the game”

[@MrBusterpalmer]

Thought you were taking the Master Yoda approach

[@bionicleone]

I just have to remind myself of the quote. “If it sounds too good to be true than it probably is.”

[@Xenronnify]

After seeing the footage of the live event, I'm wondering if we almost suffered another Collapse. It seems like the Darkness tried to creep in again, and it got Mercury, Mars, Titan (and probably Saturn), and Io (and probably Jupiter). It came in a wave, and those 4 planets were the closest to the wave in terms of orbit. When the Dark Wave got to Earth, the Traveler decided that this time, it would stand and fight, and healed itself to push back the Darkness (possibly with energies gleaned from us Guardians; a source of power it didn't have before). This, in essence, means that we may now have a better picture of how the Darkness operates. It creeps slowly in, positioning and waiting, luring strong champions in to become its 'Guardians', and when it finally has enough strength, it attacks all at once, swooping in and Taking everything it wants. In this way, the Collapse would have been exactly as described- sudden, Dark, and acausal.

[@retrorobo4576]

i don't think it got Jupiter, considering... Europa. Jupiter still being visible and whatnot.

[@agenda3854]

How does it feel looking back after lightfall?

[@barrybell2561]

Byf, your work continues to reach new heights! I've spent hundreds of hours watching pretty much all of your Destiny lore videos. You just tell the stories the way the deserve to be told, Destiny has such an incredible story that it's just impossible to fit it all in to the playable game and you do an absolutely incredible job bringing them to life. You're a credit to the Destiny community my friend.

[@killerkitsune]

When you try to be intimidating but everyone just calls you a dorito

[@thesleeplessone6971]

Entropy Flavor

[@b0bmcsomthing248]

@@thesleeplessone6971 with a hint of spoopyness

[@tenacity25]

I mean, there probably are people who are scared of doritos

[@thearchitect2112]

It does annoy me sometimes.

[@LimeTortilla]

Black licorice flavored Doritos

[@senpaikeystonetv2662]

“And it is majestic” *Barb casually yeeting around in the air* “Majestic”

[@eosaeostre9242]

I will remember the massive “OH SHIT” that came out of my mouth the first time I saw that Pyramid the day Shadowkeep released. Still the most terrified I’d ever been in Destiny to date.

[@ac4th371]

Just this little snippet about the anomaly would make a great Horror Film. A credit to the depth and quality of the writing in Destiny lore.

[@knightamongknaves]

"In The Darkness, Only The Fearless Survive, so Eyes Up Guardian. Be Brave."

[@extinction3926]

That art is absolutely amazing for the thumbnail.

[@vVex_]

It is going to be 3d animated

[@SCP--106]

I wanna get the picture lol

[@claritycontrol1530]

I really need to find a source for it. It's amazing.

[@Rembertex]

The beginning gave me chills. I've always found Byf's voice quite soothing (it's very nice to fall asleep to, lol), but that opening made me realized he can actually sound quite sinister if he wants

[@hk-4733]

*interesting dlc idea comes out* Me: *a year one player* how much did it cost Bungie: everything

[@jasonsherman6275]

Byf: I shall be as Vergil ~Byf seconds later talking about Power~ *Vergil in the background: Grins in Motivation*

[@Garry_Combine]

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!

[@daniellejarvis9131]

@@Garry_Combine I HAVE BEEN BLESSED MY FAMILY CREST IS THE DEMON OF DEATH!

[@Saint01_Arts]

*FORSAKEN I AM AWAKENED*

[@maverickmig21mf42]

Do I already know all of the damn destiny lore? yes Am I going to watch it all again? Heck yea!

[@Darthillini]

Lol

[@communistcrusader217]

We can all agree that as absolutely amazing video as this is, it’s great destiny asmr to sleep to

[@KS-fl7ur]

Bungie: *Releases new content* Me: "Oh cool, I'll get it when it's cheaper." Bungie: *Removes everything else from the game* Me: "Well now I have to buy it." Business 101

[@haroldthekek9229]

Actually they fucked it up very badly by removing , locking and especially sunsetting

[@pantheon6920]

The doppelganger's head twitching creepily reminded me of the taken

[@archoninferno]

I mean the ability to take was literally tought to Oryx by the Darkness, oh but he had to kill a Worm god to speak to the darkness so it doesn’t defy the sword logic

[@vastrsi]

Bruh, Bungie needs to throw cutscenes like the intro of this video into the game. Holy Crap. Well frickin done guys

[@pappywinky4749]

these videos are giving such a deep appreciation for destiny, the lore is amazing. Can't wait for the extended universe bungie has announced

[@nickh4354]

I LOVE that the darkness is accompanied with music that has these unsettling warbles and pitch bends. Fantastic audio concept and design to fit the mood

[@Sigma_10000]

For a second I thought I had missed an in game cutscene!

[@thearchitect2112]

Thanks for the biography, you did a killer job. Stay frosty.

[@gerardo5720]

Can I have your autograph?

[@thearchitect2112]

@@gerardo5720 what planet do you want me to carve it on to?

[@gerardo5720]

@@thearchitect2112 I'm a humble man, I'll take asteroid 2015 TB145

[@gerardo5720]

@@thearchitect2112 And there is something very funny about youtube letting me know that "the darkness has replied."

[@Plug-n]

Hey buddy can I have a screenie

[@redgenome617]

That opening monologue gave me chills and I love it

[@Aihkiko]

I watched this whole thing like it was a movie, I LOVE YOU. So amazing.

[@jayweber3022]

1 guardian, 1 toaster, 1 ici boi power, 1 Salvation, DESTINY: THE MOVIE

[@jayweber3022]

@Green Beans why should I do that?

[@ShinkuHasNoLife]

1 top of a mountain

[@VanLeatherman]

This whole K1 story is reminding me of dead space

[@ryancross3999]

Wow, I was able to load up a crucible match before Byf’s video was finished. Bungie did something to the load times!! Great video as always Byf!!👍

[@nmaloneyvf]

That intro was both chilling and beautiful. But we expect nothing less from Byf do we not? Thank you for all of your lore videos and content Byf. Looking forward to much much much more!

[@ElToland]

I watched all of it and the only thing I can say is: *Majestic, Majestic...*

[@benfeatherston924]

The story of the K1 team reminds me of the movie Event Horizon with Sam Neill. Love it!

[@LtCWest]

Fun Fact: Did did you know that movie is widely considered to be a prequel to Warhammer 40k? ^^

[@benfeatherston924]

@@LtCWest I did not know that, now I’ve looked it up and it’s very interesting.

[@yrvjutrtubxsyi]

@@LtCWest thats cool

[@primedasymmium]

Man the D1 lore felt so much more gritty and imo more interesting

[@therealeyezic]

Bro I heavily disagree. I was a D1 lore NUT and I absolutely love the lore in D2 more. The storytelling tactics may not be the greatest, but when we finally have the full story it will be magnificent. No hate to you it’s just cool to see that people still love D1 lore a lot! But IMO D2 lore is vastly more expansive and there’s much more to learn about. Of course it’s going to get less gritty, but that’s because we know more about the Darkness. What was once mystery is now almost solved. 😊

[@paradigm2266]

This is getting increasingly lovecraftian and I'm all for it

[@alejandroolazabal7995]

“Hi Darkness from Destiny” “Hi Apothicons from Call of Duty Zombies” *both have an artifact placed in the earth’s moon*

[@ragedtank6177]

Everyone remember this: Rasputin is no longer able to police the anomaly...inb4 it goes from crucible map to raid/dungeon

[@xxofblades3464]

*hearing byf monologue to me about the nature of the universe at beginning* *me starts silently crying with my head down* “It’s true. It’s truly true” *i weep as I hold my favourite exotic gun.*

[@ericwolff2700]

Dude, I have to say I've watched hundreds of your lore videos, this is by far the best intro I've ever seen for a lore video

[@extinction3926]

The production quality is fantastic, byf. great to see the evolution of content here.

[@AwashimaSeriLieutenant]

Got my tea, sitting in a onesie and Byf lore to close my birthday!

[@dr.cardigan8077]

Sounds like a kickass birthday!

[@Lagneto]

Happy birthday

[@Marco-tp6zc]

Happy birthday from a stranger you never met

[@elliepurser7867]

Happy birthday!

[@ZeroPlan3333]

Happy Birthday, Guardian

[@adeadphish7931]

I kinda love that Byf's opening monologue sounds so similar to the monologue in the cinematic trailer for The Witch Queen

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

I still firmly hold the belief that the Taken are the closest to a pure darkness enemy that we've ever encountered, and with the Darkness' shown abilities to corrupt, this has only emboldened that claim. Heck, now we know its practically confirmed that Oryx got the ability directly from the darkness, and the blight's similarities to the Darkness seen in the Black Garden only pushes this further. Perhaps the Taken are the closest possible physical manifestation of the darkness' power. It somewhat reminds me of the Domination ability in Shadow of Mordor/War, corruption in physical form, being able to immediately turn allies against each other within a moment

[@joshlong6733]

Andddd you were correct lol

[@BlackMFVelvet]

Does anyone think that getting guardians to accept the darkness is part of Savathun's plan?

[@jem5378]

Osiris said the Pyramids intend to punish Savathun for interfering with its attempts to communicate with us, so that's unlikely. Not to mention Savathun - much like Mara - wants to become God herself both the Darkness and Guardians threaten that.

[@ZeroAxle]

@@jem5378 when did Osiris say that exactly? I missed it.

[@Rose-rx4zn]

No salvation wants to interfere with our "salvation" (communications with the dark) so she can obtain the power herself

[@mystic1360]

@@jem5378 Why does Mara Sov want to become a goddess?

[@Hunter-zn5tb]

@@mystic1360 might have something to do with us (guardians) hunting the ahamkara to extinction. In which her race were very close to.

[@jubbajules]

“THIS IS AMAZING” - LORD SHAXX

[@ayushadarsh9001]

I have seen several videos on this so far, but none of them come even close to the intensity with which you do project your information. Simply awesome.

[@FivebySeveN]

Best lore video I've seen from you period. This was incredibly informative and satiating. I've been fascinated with the horror aspect of Destiny since forever and this ties all those different, separate tales together very well. Fantastic job!

[@Ptown_1988]

I love the feeling of ominous dread mixed with shy curiosity that this lore and video produces...sweetly unsettling

[@WhoisPersona]

I’ve got my bounties ready, gear set, cool original Doritos and my two model Pyramid Ships. *BRING ON BEYOND LIGHT!*

[@toastmyoats_895]

With beyond light they said completed bounties will not carry over to the dlc

[@lordwhippleton9734]

I wish I had my gear set but discard the bounties because you will only get season 11 rewards not season 12

[@WhoisPersona]

@@toastmyoats_895 I am pretty sure it is certain bounties, I have only completed bounties on destinations that are not going away.

[@toastmyoats_895]

@@WhoisPersona well from what I’ve seen basically once the dlc comes out any bounties you have already had completed will not give you any xp. Because Bungie didn’t like people ranking up their season pass super quickly

[@WhoisPersona]

Well there is only one way to find out, at least I’ll get some bright dust.

[@arikay3054]

The beginning is so, hauntingly well done. That speech is going to stick with me for a long, long time. The whole video is a masterpiece and exactly what I needed to pump me through the work day into the final hours before beyond light. Thank you so much, from this little new light.

[@edandgretchenalexander632]

So great! I’m a day one Destiny player and I had forgotten so many of the items pointing to the larger Light/Dark tale! This was so great to watch before the Final Shape comes out.

[@criticalfailure6464]

Anyone else notice how similar the whole arrival of the Darkness is to the Reapers in Mass Effect?

[@Scooter_Alice]

Yeah, a seemingly unstoppable force arriving from deep space for the sole purpose of wrecking our shit

[@shebdjsnwddjdnbssjbdbdbejd5589]

all the better lmao

[@gibster9624]

Got some similarities but so much more mysterious. Funny enough tho they too would take over the other enemy faction and alter them into a new life form. The main difference tho is what I like. The Darkness is doing it for our salvation where as the reapers are doing it just to preserve life.

[@LtCWest]

@@gibster9624 Are you sure about that? Everything Ive read so far on the darkness says that it absolutely despises existance itself, because existance came to be when it fought with the light. So yeah, not really sure about the salvation part. Afterall, Chaos also promised freedom and all it did was to corrupt the Primarchs....

[@gibster9624]

@@LtCWest but the reapers don't despise existence, and being a salvation for life can be motivated by a disdain from it. Saying the same thing just in a different way.

[@pheade1254]

6:36 "So come now, and listen - as I tell you the story ... of the Darkness." FB add immediately plays. Self: "Accurate."

[@ElliotDrinksWater]

Okay so I watched the first half of this in my living room at 1 in the morning, and that story of the Anomaly scared the shit out of me. Great story telling on your part!

[@attila535]

To quote John Sheridan: "GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR GALAXY, BOTH OF YOU !" This is just like Babylon5.

[@Starflight2454]

See the greatest part of this video is when he is talking about the silver wings tree, and up in the corner you see "+250 Clan XP" XD Greatest Thing ever Keep on going byf, love you mate

[@Jeremus717]

I will never be able to express how much My Name Is Byf has enriched my Destiny experience across the years. Huge shout out to you and your team!

[@meben9925]

Another great video! Never knew how in depth Destiny’s story line was that until I found your channel. Keep up the amazing work!!

[@Amfortas]

The Gardener and Winnower arguing sounds like God and Lucifer when they argued about free will