Morrigan Reveals Her True Identity - Dragon Age Veilguard

[@BlackKoshinomi]

So no mention of her husband her son

[@Gregor1337]

They were simply cancelled, just like her breast....

[@ggt47]

WRITER:She has a husband and a son?

[@BlackKoshinomi]

@ggt47 exactly

[@ggt47]

@@BlackKoshinomi WRITERS:But she's clearly "queer" based on her personality and old dated stereotypes that don't apply to everyone and besides she's too hot to straight.

[@arefenix2332]

I was specting the same, maybe a reference or something. But no, they have to fuck another great character to make her one of the alfabet mafia.

[@listazar]

Morrigan...what they did to you?.

[@Mjonir117]

Her stance looks so queer. The developers should just quit and become garbage people, so they know how its like when we are getting dumped garbage.

[@EliC09]

*What in Andraste’s tits did they do to Morrigan!?*

[@aedanaedan4475]

Soooooo..... They say "Let´s make Morrigan the way we need her to be so this story works for us".... Not the way the other games tells her story....

[@professorwright1428]

It has been TWENTY years since we first met her. She was already a nicer person ten years after Origins. The fact that she has mellowed out as a now fourty something year old woman is the only thing that would make sense.

[@aedanaedan4475]

@@professorwright1428 And what about her son? What about the fact Flemmeth says in her black grimmory that se passed her soul or essence to her blood linage child a lot of time...? That were important piece of history beetwen these two witch

[@professorwright1428]

@@aedanaedan4475 ....... Morrigan literally has the essence of Mythal in her now. That's what Flemeth meant in DAI when she said Morrigan was never in any danger from her. And yeah, I would've liked to see Kieran but a) he's too quantum to include in any meaningful way and b) he is twenty now babes, he doesn't need to be with mommy all the time now, and he doesn't even have the soul inside him anymore so he's just an average guy.

[@SpencerCJ]

​@@aedanaedan4475 Did you actually play DA:O ? Flemmeth abandoned the plan to body hop into Morigan the moment she told Morrigan to do the Binding Ritual with the Arch Demon, the soul of Uthemial was another way for her to keep living longer and longer and it wouldn't have require she keep hopping bodies forever. Morgian found the book and rightfully freaked out

[@aedanaedan4475]

@@SpencerCJ yes i play it, despite of that, Morrigan himself says that Flemmeth has many ways to avoid death, one of them was with a medallion(i don't remember that part well) that she gives to Hawke... so... well, Flemmeth has many ways, more than we know for sure

[@MacabreDaymare]

Wait, so did BioWare just decide to say “fuck your choices” and make the canonical choice of Morrigan drinking from the Well? What about Kieran?

[@BradTheAmerican]

They didn't choose canon states, but the Well and Kieran were pushed into irrelevancy and ignored. The only things you "import" are who the Inquisitor romanced, the state of the Inquisition at the end of Trespasser, and whether the Inquisitor wants to redeem or destroy Solas. At the end of DAI before Solas killed Flemeth to absorb her powers, Flemeth can be seen sending something through the elven mirror, which I think is safe to assume to be the essence of Mythal that Morrigan now carries.

[@Tito_michi]

​@@BradTheAmericanand yet none of the romantic partners is even mentioned. Only Solas and Dorian matter. Was it so hard to add a letter, Bioware?

[@OverLorD768]

Yup.

[@agama5538]

@@BradTheAmerican Ah, so not 20 questions, but fucking 3. Well done Bioware, so glad you allowed me to build my own world three fucking times before saying it doesn't matter. I take it this abomination of Morrigan also didn't romance the Warden?

[@Iqbalx1]

Morrigan most likely absorb mythal from the eluvian flemeth used to store a part of her before she died

[@phoqueme]

This is such a "fuck you" to the OG fans of Dragon Age. Such disrespect to butcher a beloved character like this

[@LadyLeomon]

And a MASSIVE Iron Bull-sized f*ck you to fans of Morrigan who have followed her since Origins …

[@agama5538]

Not to mention Varric. Fuck them, honestly, just fuck them at this point.

[@starsfalldown1234567]

Cry more

[@SpencerCJ]

How?

[@LadyLeomon]

@ go take a look at Morrigan just one game prior in Inquisition and you’ll see what they mean

[@haiway85]

the Dragon Age dies with Inquisition.

[@AliensEatPeople]

But hey, DA2 looks like gold compared to this pixar trash.

[@ApollyonZKX]

To me, Solas accomplished bringing down the veil and destroyed this world. This game didn’t happen, it’s just fan fiction to me. Really bad fan fiction.

[@yHattori]

I agree

[@sethstorm]

@@ApollyonZKX couldn't have said it better myself. This is now my headcanon too.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

Origins*

[@СашаМальчев-м3и]

Where is my boy kieran?!?!?!?!??? and a Hero of Ferelden?!?!?!? WHERE?!?!?!??😠😡😤

[@_Asvaria]

Since they completly abandoned Keep option, he doesn’t exist. Veilguard pretty much is based on BioWare’s made up „canon” that is used when you don’t transfer your choices. It’s pretty much a default version of history. So HoF who was an Daelish female is dead, Alistair is a king married to Anora, Hawke who is a male mage sided with mages and killed Anders, Carver was a Templar, Inquisitor - a human rogue - swore to defeat Solas, Cassandra becomes the Divine, Hawke dies in the Fade, Morrigan drinks from the Well if Sorrows - you know, the list goes on. Also none of romances are included so all 3 leads are singles. Once, when I started Inquisition, I didn’t had Internet so I couldn’t connect to the Keep, imagine my surprise when I met Alistair as a king married to Anora or learned that my Warden was dead, Morrigan had no romantic memories about him and Kiernan was erased from existance 😂 It all felt so out of place for me that I stopped playing and waited till Internet would finally be fixed.

[@СашаМальчев-м3и]

@@_Asvaria When EA and BioWare can go to hell…🤬😡👿 and that's rough.😅

[@badfoody]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH YES WHERE ARE THEY MAN. WHERE IS THE HERO WHERE at least Solas got the spanking.... Hawke still dead

[@СашаМальчев-м3и]

@badfoody My Hawke was alive in Inquisition!

[@Vanord823]

@@_Asvaria what happened to witch hunt, was that dlc fake then? Lmao

[@bastianwright3402]

Claudia Black still has it tho.... Sounds very Morrigan even after 15 years.

[@agama5538]

No, she does not. Not with THAT script.

[@haydenmammen6079]

Highly doubt anyone real would make any positive comments about this game. Probably paid commenters.

[@bastianwright3402]

@@agama5538 thats fair

[@bastianwright3402]

@@haydenmammen6079 I still think the game is trash. I'm just an old school morrigan simp. dont mind me.

[@StoneAgeWarfare]

@@agama5538 He's talking about here performance. Let's not be literal here.

[@Kat1kafka]

Why is morrigan wearing two bras?

[@robespierre4843]

Khmm, 4...😮

[@robertagren9360]

Secret plot device. You see in origins there's a Spider with many boobs

[@Kat1kafka]

@robertagren9360 broodmother,the mother,the talking darkspawns,the architect,more plot holes

[@agama5538]

Four tits in dragon form, some freaky shit straight from the Abyss of Wrath of the Righteous.

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

Keep thinking of Sheeva from mortal kombat

[@BoneistJ]

They even found a way to fuck up this storyline they wrapped up last game. Impressive.

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

They didn't. Modern people who replaced veteran people in BioWare did. 50 developers were fired and many more before and during Veilguard development.

[@larrypotter2243]

​@@xXSilentAgent47Xx🤦‍♂️

[@eastbow6053]

@@xXSilentAgent47Xx because they didnt want to add woke to the game xD

[@winspyy]

@@eastbow6053 'woke' so you mean gay people? Like DA:O had? Thats a crazy take lmao

[@eastbow6053]

@@winspyy gays are not woke begone demon you cant have them. Go back to your nonbinary cave

[@Bat-Twenty-Two]

Origins and Awakening are apparently all I'll ever need from the Dragon Age franchise.

[@BlackKoshinomi]

Lol!

[@agama5538]

Go up to Inquisition, but after that imagine Invictus from Final Space destroyed the universe.

[@bastianwright3402]

yes

[@TheNamesDitto]

Same

[@PygmyChimp1]

I loved DA:O, Inquisition, and even DA2. I loved the books and all the downloadable content. This game felt like it should have been the climax to the overall storyline, but it looks so disappointing ... after playing BG3 (a masterpiece), maybe I have unrealistic expectations for RPGs? No, that's not it. Bioware needs to pay their actors and writers more money.

[@MrMirageCaster]

You don't have unrealistic expectations. BG3 reminded you of a former setting of the quality bar, and now you see how many games fail to even try to reach towards it. Not the fault of all the developers and designers, management will always shoulder more responsibility for choices. But from AAA studios, and even AA studios, we've gone too long without seeing such potential be reached.

[@mattphoenix4702]

The biggest factors for Veilguard being this way are its multiple cancellations and reboots dictated by the corporate BioWare suits, and the firing or resignation of literally ALL of the writers who had been with the series since Origins. That’s why it kinda feels disjointed and maybe a little clunky. The people who created Thedas are no longer custodians of the world they helped create. It’s sorta like the Halo franchise after Bungie passed the baton to 343. The removal of player choice influencing the narrative is so very disappointing. I had been hoping to find out how successful Loghain had been at redeeming the tarnished honor of the Gray Wardens after the debacle at Adamant. Now that entire potential story is just gone. Veilguard makes me sad a little. But the absolute insane negativity surrounding it right now is ridiculous. There are people who have never played the game shitting all over it and trashing the game for story points and decisions that aren’t actually in the game. They’ve turned rumor and speculation into gospel truth and are attacking Veilguard for not being what they were told it would be by some other fool that confused their head canon and what the actual story is.

[@Gregor1337]

​@@mattphoenix4702 And there is the other side of the coin, many people report positively and have never played it.

[@agama5538]

I, on the other hand, didn't like BG3 either, well I did love some of it. Granted, it's not a bad game, but to call it '3' and not allow me to have my states from the previous 2 sucks, and though I'm a big fan of romance subplots, there is way too much horny in the game for a regular day of playing RPGs. Some of the jokes are lacklustre, but I don't want to internally vomit, and the inclusion of Fanservice was unnecessary. (Probably an unpopular opinion, I know). It is leagues better than... whatever Bioware calls this. (Do they think it's a success?) But it had few bugs and felt finished, big points there for BG3. I just want them to finish companion stories now, need to get my Tiefling Teddy a new ticker.

[@haydenmammen6079]

This game is absolute trash, lowest of the low effort trolling. Inserting DEI agendas and pushing ideologies. It’s trash, catering to trash.

[@westerwald3923]

What did they to to Morrigans look and design? Look how they massacred my boi.

[@albusdumbledore7727]

Boi..? Better do 10 apology push ups to make it all about you.

[@henrywinters9496]

Do a Barve

[@TheAns51]

What's wrong in that? She is very recognisable, like a mix of morrigan and flemeth styles. Not bad at all. It's not like you keep same clothes and style everyday for 10-15 years?

[@paulgonzalez7610]

Time to do 15 push ups Nazi.

[@westerwald3923]

​​@@TheAns51 Are you kidding? This is not the Morrigan from the OG Dragon Age. First her voice is too monotonous, not the sassy sarcastic witch which is what made Morrigan iconic. As for the outfit it looks okay but they could have done better, its mid. Morrigans outfit and body has been nerfed 2x now, first in inquisition and severely here in veilguard. Lastly is she looks nothing like the Morrigan from Origins and Inquisition, she looks like Alcibiades from Assassin Creed here in Veilguard.

[@abirbinhabib7669]

Look how they massacared my girl...

[@CockroachStomper]

What did they do to Morrigan? She used to have bright amber eyes.

[@RNCHFND]

She looks like a Mortal Kombat character

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

Sheeva

[@tacticool_weeb8450]

😢 over a decade of wait for nothing. FFS the lip flaps don’t even really line up. This can’t be real

[@agama5538]

I see how the rig was set up. The mouths are always too high up. The mouth movements are on the chin. Bet they had noobs do it like they did with Andromeda. Speaking of, I need to apologise to Andromeda for treating it so harshly after seeing this.

[@Razumen]

Why are the conversations so BORING

[@agama5538]

Cue Scott Pilgrim: "This is... This is... This is..." "What?!" "This is boooorrriiiinnngg."

[@nanyafahkinbiznes1352]

Because HR don't want writers who write mean things to others lest the character is "non-binary"

[@Razumen]

@nanyafahkinbiznes1352 Look, HR sucks, but let's not pretend that it's not the writers themselves that want to write this slop. The cancer that these people represent has infested so many different levels of gaming.

[@Dip-z8q]

"Mythal clawed and crawled through the ages to me, and I will see her avenged! Alas, so long as the music plays, we dance"

[@agama5538]

Until new management starts its tyrannical reign anyhow.

[@CondemnedInformer]

Honestly, I was hoping that in the battle at Weisshaupt Hawke, Stroud, Alistair or even Loghain (whoever you chose) would burst out of a fade rift or something into our world and fight with us.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

How could you hope that when you aren't even able to import your decisions

[@sethstorm]

this ticks me off, Flemeth appears next to morrigan's bed and tells her that she has to agree to let Flemeth do some magic shit to her? and morrigan says YES? did they never play origins? Morrigan would at best tell her to kick rocks, and at worst blast her with magic. how DARE they ruin both of my first romance options from origins AND DA2.

[@mattphoenix4702]

The REASON Morrigan chose to accept Mythal was the regret so heard in Flemeth’s voice. It was quite literally stated by Morrigan in the video. Combined with the interaction between Morrigan, Flemeth, and Kieran in the Fade during Inquisition, and the entire thing is logical and has deep roots. We all knew this was coming since Origins. Also, Morrigan was NEVER against gaining more power. What held her back from wanting to be Mythal’s vessel was the fear of losing herself. This was ALSO stated in the video. Mythal has been greatly weakened and wounded by Solas. She no longer has the power to actually manipulate or interact with the world. All that is left of her at this point is her memory, her knowledge. She is no longer a threat to Morrigan’s free will and lacks the power to influence her. This was ALSO said by Morrigan in the video. For fucks sake, you had to have not actually watched this scene or played Veilguard because the point you are trying to make is just… I don’t know… you sound like a senile old fool who can’t get any of the facts straight and still wants to complain anyway. Please explain how Morrigan’s character was ruined when this is the path she has been on since day one? Shit, in every game she pops up tinkering with Elven magic and artifacts, repairing Eluvians, raising her child in the crossroads and other various secure corners of the eluvian network. In Inquisition, she would kill Abelas before he could destroy the Well of Sorrows because she wanted the power for herself. NOTHING she has done in Veilguard is out of character for her. If you took a couple of seconds to catch your breath and use your brain, you’d see how all the pieces fit together. The negativity swirling around Veilguard right now is ridiculous. People are MAKING UP or misremembering so much just so they can bash Veilguard. I’m willing to bet that at least half the people complaining and having a temper tantrum over some plot point haven’t even played the damn game.

[@Joel-sc2ee]

⁠@@mattphoenix4702Why would Morrigan give a shit about Flemeth’s regret? Flemeth who was such an abusive piece of shit that a demon in the fade was kinder to Morrigan than Flemeth. Why would Morrigan trust the wisp of Mythal? Why would she trust this wisp anymore than any regular demon exactly? BeCaUse She HeArd FLeMEtHs RegRet? Morrigan’s entire arc has been about rebuking her mother’s wishes, so how the fuck is this the ‘natural conclusion’ to her character? Making her do a complete 180 and become what Flemeth wanted exactly? This game completely erased and makes Morrigan’s entire plot from Origins and Inquisition. And what for? What does Morrigan becoming Mythal actually contribute to the plot? So we can ‘redeem’ Solas? They sacrificed Morrigan’s character for Solas’ bullshit? Morrigan who learned in Inquisition to be wary of chasing after magic and power with the Well of sorrows yet she risks taking in the spirit of a vengeful old god? Especially when you add in her potential kid and husband? You know Kieran? Why would Morrigan risk her relationship with her son and husband for the husk of a potential dead god? Oh that’s right they don’t fucking exist as Morrigan acts like they never existed, apparently they don’t even factor into her decision at all, fuck Kieran apparently. I mean ffs, Morrigan literally says she’s so impacted by Mythal, that she won’t fight Solas? This coming from the woman that asked the Warden to kill her own mom? Yeah that ain’t fucking Morrigan. Games a joke, it’s trash.

[@Nomad_03]

@@mattphoenix4702 It' funny how you instanly jump to insults when you tell other people to calm down and think. Op didn't say that she would refuse power, but refuse power from Flemeth which is more specific than you make it out to be. She is looking for power, preserving/repairing not small part because she is afraid of Flemeth and "getting ready for what comes next". Flemeth makes fun of the idea of taking her over but also makes it clear that it has to be done willingly, doesn't explain further. Morrigan was still suspicious of Flemeth after their scene in inquisition and the night meeting would be the next encounter. I share op's displeasure at this depiction and explenation, because Morrigan held deep hatred/suspicion toward Flemeth even after learning that she housed Mythal.

[@Keram-io8hv]

​@@mattphoenix4702This things fit together as much as Lego and Duplo

[@caitlinomalley80]

@@Keram-io8hv I mean those do fit together, lego designed them that way. so your analogy doesn't work. lol

[@vylee8124]

Fuck all this new characters. I want my warden back. 😢

[@Poo-t3c]

Same.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Me too.

[@ilyakats54]

THIS is Morrigan? THIS!?!

[@shizeeque]

I wouldn't able to tell it's her if not for the voice. :(

[@leehalloway8787]

I didn't know who that was.

[@shizeeque]

@@leehalloway8787 it's Claudia Black.

[@FlameRaven]

what are you talking about she looks so slay. a perfect combination between her style and flemeth's. there's things in the game that are actually bad.

[@songoku6067]

She looks good stop bitchin

[@utgarr-bo7856]

Cool. So, you turned one of my favorite video game baddies into...whatever this is...I miss my Warden, he wouldn't tolerate whatever happened to his wife.

[@nanyafahkinbiznes1352]

I call BS. That's either Flemeth disguised as Morrigan or that Morrigan is somewhere else with Warden and Kieran living their lives far away.

[@bastianwright3402]

this is literally the only storyline I cared about and they botched it so bad....

[@jibjub7047]

That's the most "We have Morrigan at home." I have ever seen.

[@chrisw1693]

Morrigan has become the Merlin of Dragon Age

[@NuttyART]

She behaves now like Wynne from DA:O, wtf

[@thedude5294]

Huh, I kinda like the irony.

[@deathsdoor07]

More like Flemeth since it's Flemeth somehow.

[@TokusaMarudzi]

She is much older and wiser than that, it was years since origins. Even in Inquisition she wore that dress described by Leilana in Dragon Age Origins.

[@NuttyART]

​@@TokusaMarudzi I still liked her in Inqusition, where she was already portrayed as more serious and adult woman, but in veilguard, it seems like they get rid of her specific personality traits, such as mockery, sarcasm and high attitude. She turned into good old grandma who likes to explain things...

[@TokusaMarudzi]

@@NuttyART I mean, at the end of inquisition she was proven wrong to most of things as she always acted all mighty not knowing who her mother really was and what she wanted, and then Mythal basically poured into her. That changes person and her look at the world. Her sassy years are basically past her

[@agama5538]

What in the Good Name of Fen'Harel did they do to Warden Commander Cousland's Wife? The fuck did they do? Where's the striking yellow eyes? Where's the catty nature? Where's the voice of the previous games? Where is Morrigan? Now the ONE thing she DID NOT want is the one thing we're bloody stuck with. Fuuuuuuuuck... the more I watch the less I want to play. Edit: Save your money, seriously. Here's MY true ending, a sad one, but better than this shit. After Inquisition they tried their damndest to stop Solas, but as he was a god, they couldn't succeed. Solas destroyed the world to build anew his elven empire. Many died, but with the help of Eluvians, they were able to save many more, all of whom travelled to worlds of their choosing. Morrigan lived happily after that, alongside her son, and husband (whom had found a cure for the taint.) The end.

[@ianhenshaw2930]

I loaded this video and was just about to click play then didn't. I don't want my memories of Morrigan shat on.

[@DynamicRacingSim]

This is why anything past DA Origins i don't even pay attention to. that was the best game and the only game in the series beautifully written. Basically, all the choices we made in DA Origins doesn't even matter in this game.

[@andrewvincent7299]

Is Morrigan saying "One fell in love with an Alamari barbarian" a hint that Flemeth is/was Andraste?

[@kyleisrael1659]

See I was hoping someone else would make this connection!!! That’s been one of my favorite dragon age theories, I will die on this hill that she’s referring to Andraste!

[@andrewvincent7299]

@@kyleisrael1659 Haha same here!! The similarities in both of their respective lore and similarities in their looks is just too much to be ignored. Andraste in art in everything after DA2 has her wearing the same exact crown that Flemeth wears that Morrigan is now wearing. The Maker/Spirit came to both Flemeth and Andraste deep in a forest. And of course...Shartan is depicted to look EXACTLY like Solas did. They wear the exact same armor. If Flemeth wasn't Andraste then Andraste was definitely a one time vessel for Mythal.

[@agama5538]

Go back to Morrigan talking about Flemeth and Osen. Being of a time where barbarians roamed about, the barbarian would be Osen.

[@SpencerCJ]

I think they are, or Mythal was in Adrastes body at the time, honestly this would make the Maker Solas, he erected the veil and may have accidentally made man as a result

[@SeventhheavenDK]

I thought the same until she said they lived in the swamps, so I actually think she is talking about Osen.

[@lordremont9052]

Its not even her looks i actually dont mind its the storylines they tossed out my choices didnt matter in the end which sucks to me that was one of dragon age selling points was that your choices actually meant something to over the overall story i kinda regret buying this game now i only got it for the story and now almost all the story i know in my head my canon is now irrelevant

[@agama5538]

Her looks are meh, but they'd be 1000 times better if she still had her unique and deliciously alluring yellow eye colour.

[@Drakonian-gz2nq]

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE

[@Keram-io8hv]

We need Hero of Ferelden gather the party and save Morrigan from Flemeth trying to take hold in her body

[@agama5538]

Again?! Ah, man, can't we finally be rid of our evil mother-in-law? Or at least have the DA2 version, but more mellow and open to family BBQs?

[@SpencerCJ]

Flemeth is dead you boob, Mythal is not trying to body jack her

[@EliC09]

* drunk Oghren noises *

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Flemeth is gone, as she clearly says in this conversation.

[@BlueKoshinomi8]

And they wonder why the real gamers keep complaining 😒.

[@SpencerCJ]

"Real gamers" you men porn addicts?

[@Poo-t3c]

@@SpencerCJ How exactly does appreciating beautiful women equate to being a porn addict? Do you say the same about women who like Astarion or Gale in BG3?

[@sanketvaria9734]

I am not gonna pirate this game either. ruined everything

[@RDH5]

Its so weird to see friendly morrigan. She usually just scowls at people like batman.

[@robertagren9360]

It makes you the one who never given A signal

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

She stopped being like that all the way back in Witch Hunt, some 20 years before this.

[@Iqbalx1]

In inquisition she was pretty friendly even Lelianna comments on it

[@JJJBunney001]

She wasn't like that with the warden or the Inquisitor, not sure why everyone has a problem with it now.... oh wait yes I do

[@piotri4645]

Although I still have reservations concerning stylistical choices and lore simplifications done to Morrigan and game as a whole, I got really emotional having this conversation during my playthrough. "Here she is" I thought, "My Morrigan". Claudia Black at her finest!

[@gloryshadow8710]

I dont recognize this Morrigan 👎

[@TheSkyNlnja]

Ehhh I cannot even be bothered to pirate this game 😩😩😩

[@agama5538]

Agreed.

[@mantasr]

She's wearing a ridiculous outfit - and it's not even a ridiculous sexy outfit.

[@amberanime]

Who cares about her outfit? We need to care about the story. They did her dirty..

[@ph4kiew]

man that's a stupid argument. they wiped her character slate clean and you're complaining about her fit?

[@DilophoMS]

Bioware butchered Morrigan like Blizzard butchered Arthas.

[@Just4Now-x1z]

What did they do to Morrigan!! Every time I think this game is bad, it gets even worse somehow. This is not Morrigan! Not a chance.

[@D0nkih0te91]

So they basically disregarded all previous story choices leading up to this, changed her lore off screen and decided who cares what the fuck the fans think. Makes sense, it's as good a way to kill a franchise as any.

[@az-cv1ql]

Why would they change her face completely 😭 literally UNRECOGNIZABLE if you took away her voice… for shame!!

[@WreakHvok]

It’s crazy clowns really thought this game had any respect for the dragon age franchise.. I hope this game and BioWare fail… to teach a lesson to these companies that hold people’s favorite franchises hostage for political talking points

[@Dante1920]

Um, these voices might actually be AI, they're so flat and toneless and even have the characteristic gravel and worble that a lot of AI voices have. If they arent, then these actors need some help.

[@user-zg1wm7fj9t]

They may have taken an example from High Guardian Spice, where the actors also have problems with flat and toneless dialogues, but even if the developers used AI, they managed to do enough work to make the voices sound like a human.

[@stephenwearne6583]

For real it's not god tier but it's certainly not bad by any means, I swear the hate for this game or the most minor thing in this game is truly disappointing, the hate hive mind is real.

[@mnorbert4188]

Claiming that Morrigan's (who's been a part of the series since Origins) voice is AI should actually be a punishable crime.

[@ph4kiew]

You must have never heard Claudia's VA then. She spoke like this in Inquisition too.

[@Kruukk]

Actors had to work with crappy script. Can't blame them.

[@ihavenonameforyou1]

That's not Morrigan, no wonder this studio is going to be shut down.

[@parkranga]

The design changes don't bother me, but why the soft reboot? why get rid of all our choices from the previous games?

[@SpencerCJ]

Becuase EA insisted they reboot the game twice to chase trends, sadly that means they lost brought 6 years of development time, this is what we get sadly, blame EA

[@pirat-sirius]

Если я правильно понял сохранения не будут перенесены в новую игру и в этой версии Флемет обладает властью над Морриган и нам не удалось её защитить в Инквизиции. Таким образом ходом событий управляют два всесильных персонажей - Богиня Правосудия Митал и Бог Обмана Ужасный волк. Это означает поражение в войне

[@Tito_michi]

Они полностью наплевали на наши выборы в предыдущих частях.

[@pirat-sirius]

@@Tito_michi Это невероятно грустно. Получается Герой Фералдена и Хоук стёрты, их словно не было. Даже роль Инквизитора была рутиной - закрыть 75 разрывов в Завесе, а в ключевом моменте игры с богиней правосудия ничего не было сделано. А я ведь действительно испытывал большой интерес к тому что Митал будет в моей голове в этой новой игре. Нам вечно говорят что мы великие герои, спасители мира от геноцида. Однако же мы не способны защитить одну женщину. Мы прекрасно знаем всю биографию Митал и знаем Морриган. Мы генералы но даже не способны развести этих женщин по разным углам. Как же тогда спасать города и целые страны? Дело не только в том что мы любим Морриган и хотим её защитить. Но мы знаем как используются женщины обладающие силой и большой магией - для создания порождений тьмы. То есть её потеря - означает конец света. В Dragon Age Origins Флемет управляла событиями в реальном мире, а Ужасный волк влиял на процессы находясь в Тени - управляя разумом людей. И если Флемет внутри Морриган - она сядет на игрока и никогда уже не слезет. Значит эти двое богов продолжат править миром и убивать кого им хочется - не спрашивая нас. Морриган олицетворяла идею свободы и силы - свободной воли. Она надёжда на изменения в Тедасе

[@basedkaiser5352]

I know the fandom had its problems with Inquisition, but I think it's actually underrated (even though that game was a proto-d.e.i project), the writing was decent, the stakes were high and the characters were written very well, and it felt very satisfying to see the characters from Origins showing up and seeing their growth. Inquisition had its problems, but at least it wasn't veilguard. Inquisition had good writing, veilguard felt like it was written people who hated Dragon Age.

[@Crashsides]

Dragon Age has always had queer characters. That's not unique to Inquisition or Veilguard. What has changed is the writing quality. Both Inquisition and Veilguard's writing was significantly worse than both DA:O and even DA2.

[@СержантДорнан-б4ц]

убери зигу не позорься

[@basedkaiser5352]

​@@CrashsidesI still feel like one of the DLC's of Inquisition was better than DA2.

[@Crashsides]

@@basedkaiser5352 That might be the case. I played the base game, left in disgust and never looked back.

[@srs419]

Is Rook voiced by AI? Its bad enough in a void, but hearing it opposite Claudia Black just makes it sound horrible. And screw who you had drink from the Well, because who needs choices mattering in a Dragon Age game, amirite?

[@winspyy]

Lol this is literally OP's choice. He states so in another comment. The faux outrage is hilarious from all of you tourists

[@srs419]

@winspyy Oh, sorry, was that one of the three choices they let you import? Because screw literally everything else other than those three choices in a game that's been all about your choices mattering since its inception, which anyone who isn't huffing bias and copium would have understood. Reply or don't, I don't care. Either way I will not be responding to you again. I've made my point. Keep wearing the clown shoes.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​@@winspyy. Only a tourist would defend this abomination called Dragon Age wannabe.

[@Chronoir3]

Didn't Solas absorbed Mythal (from Flemmeth) back in the Trespasser DLC? The writing in this game is just plain brain rot

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Did you actually see the post credit scene? Scene where you can clearly see Flemeth sending Mythal's essence through the Eluvian before Solas killed her? Don't misunderstand me, this game is an abomination, but this part was 100% hinted since Inquisition.

[@shadowthepup8137]

I've missed morrigan, very much

[@MUSIC3787]

they even manage make morrigan UGLY XD

[@-t96]

Morrigan was legit the prettiest NPC in all of Inquisition like how did she go from that to this

[@winspyy]

If thats ugly to you, you must LOVE plastic barbiedolls you fuckin gooner lmao

[@tomatopotato2881]

Hey face reminds me somewhat of Sara Ryder in Mass Effect: Andromeda.

[@ph4kiew]

​@@-t96I beg to differ. Leliana was the prettiest one and shame she's our edgy advisor.

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

​@@-t96She's getting old. 40 something at the time of Veilguard.

[@DedlefJaklovis]

most meme worthy game ever. i love it hahaha

[@Poo-t3c]

What happened to her appearance and voice? Jeez. Even her dialogue is different. In Origins she was a hot witch with a sexy voice, killer wit and humor. An awesome character who was interesting and likeable. Good enough to even have her own game. Now she looks like she writes poetry about the patriarchy, sounds like she smoked 20 a day for years and her use of words is nowhere near what it was. They butchered a lot of the recurring characters throughout the franchise but this is one of the worst.

[@RG32822]

It's this weird thing called time. People get old. The voice actor is the same but they're older. So yeah their voice ain't gonna sound the same. And the character is also older, but also has the memories and experiences of thousands of years.

[@Poo-t3c]

@@RG32822 True, people do get older. But it's also a fantasy videogame where female characters don't have to look unpleasant for the sake of realism. But then again that's asking too much of the current state of EA and most of the AAA gaming industry to understand and appreciate this.

[@NeoakiraIV]

Is that how the game looks like ? This game looks like it could of been made on Xbox 360 like someone saw the style of Fable and said we can make it look worse in 4k inquisition is older and looks way better

[@TvsovieticaDoVampBelfordRoxo]

Nah this is way better than Inquisition, you didn't play at all

[@mustycrusty754]

​@@TvsovieticaDoVampBelfordRoxoNa it looks like a fortnight collaboration morragain looks like she's about to pull out a drink shield and start building

[@RG32822]

Inquisition looks like shit dude. Go back and play it. Hair doesn't blend well, it's flat, everyone is shiny with sharp edges.

[@NeoakiraIV]

@@RG32822 I didn’t say inquisition look good. I just said it looks better than this game but you’re right inquisition does look like shit. This looks like what happens to shit three weeks later.

[@Kruukk]

3:00 Litterally didn't happen. Solas was the only one who knew true history of Elves and sharing it with others would expose him. Utter idiocy and trashy writing.

[@sveipr]

Solas would literally correct Morrigan whenever she talked about the elves in the temple of Mythal. Did you not play inquisition?

[@SeventhheavenDK]

This actually happens through all the temple of Mythal mission in Inquisition. There is a lot of banter between Morrigan and Solas.

[@Kruukk]

@@sveipr How can he correct her without exposing himself to be the dreadwolf? He even refuses to elaborate when asked. Istg you people are illiterate as the writers of Veilguard. The only thing that he shows is how uncomfortable he is with how the Dalish paint him. And the only thing closest to "correcting" Morrigan is when he says that all stories she read about Mythal are true in how she is potrayed.

[@Kruukk]

@@SeventhheavenDK No, it doesn't. Solas being bitter over someone being a better expert doesn't qualify as "correcting". Solas doesn't know a thing about Dalish history, culture and belifes. He's content with knowing the truth but can't share it without exposing himself. People like yourself who defend this don't understand the difference between the two.

[@darknesschilled]

i hate that bioware just decided that the OF fans and their choices dont matter after having this game in development for 10 years.. 10 years is a long time to make a true game that carries all the weight of our choices from the keep.. a place where crazy fans like me can create perfect world states.. they gave us the keep.. and decided not to use it.. i have been dying to know how my love Morrigan was doing.. or how is my boy Kieran.. or how my sexy pirate is hunting for her blood mage lover who is in the fade.. or how has King Alister and the HoF is handling the calling.. can they please delay Mass Effect.. like for 5 years.. or just dont make a mass effect game.. at all.. please.. i dont want my liara to request to be called "they/them".. please leave my liara alone.. i know its just characters in a game.. and i care too much about something like that.. but it is what it is..

[@patrickcarney6674]

I thought was supposed to be a gender reveal.

[@CRASHZERO411-r9d]

Hello Everyone 🎉🎉🎉

[@dumbname1961]

Who the fuck is this? Wheres morrigan?

[@wheeeeeha]

Did Morrigan get breast reduction magic? Did her sense of style go fully moronic? Look at how they butchered my girl.

[@drownzi]

nah i’m just gonna replay origins. miss me with this nonsense.

[@igorastakhov8444]

This does not look or sound like Morrigan

[@BradTheAmerican]

All of the characters look weird. Also it's been 10 years so Claudia Black's voice probably changed a bit.

[@ph4kiew]

That's Claudia's voice, what are you on about? She's instantly recognizable just by talking alone.

[@igorastakhov8444]

@@ph4kiew it’s not the voice actor, but the writing I’m talking about. This version of Morrigan seems lifeless.

[@SpencerCJ]

She has aged by 10 years since DAO, she was not going to look the same

[@BradTheAmerican]

@@SpencerCJ She's actually 22 years older. DAI took place 10 years after DAO, and Veilguard takes place 10 years after DAI's Trespasser dlc.

[@danielgadomski5129]

"I'm non-binary"

[@NESSTOR94]

*Where is Alistair* 😢

[@Poo-t3c]

Players had to option to kill him off in Origins and Inquisition. EA/Bioware were probably too lazy/tight to even do a cameo let alone include him as a major character. To be honest though it's probably for the best. Every game after Origins mishandled recurring characters.

[@phattjohnson]

4:59 Erm.. RETAKE!? I don't think there's supposed to be a pause after "Knew" 🤦‍♂

[@CriminalNails]

Why is the script so bad?? 😭😭😭😭

[@F91RPG]

omg fk me. They ruined her!

[@Daniel-ug7hs]

Trash🤮🤮🤮 MH Wilds😎💯🥰

[@Rhyzla]

Rook’s voice acting is atrocious

[@SeventhheavenDK]

This one yes. And the men too. But the British female was actually good.

[@M1A2_Abrams_MBT]

Wasn't she hotter in the previous game?

[@grimi595]

Just here to read a comments about grown men complaining that female character aged since the first game. How dare she age??!!!!

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

@grimi595 Cope hole

[@Majestros]

I'm not gonna watch, but did she come out as non-binary?

[@Name-is-mine]

She reveals she’s Mythal and Morrigan in one body.

[@justusbowman]

@@Name-is-mine Two spirit then? :)

[@ОлександрКорольов-л1х]

So all the times we actually killed Flemeth in DAO...real funny!

[@itsholidaybb]

Holy fuck Bioware is cooked.

[@brockauble2263]

Stupid game Glad I didn't buy

[@fivedaysfitter5225]

So the elves are spirits.... talk about making the 17-year mystery of Dragon age boring!

[@avishaiedenburg1102]

This has been well established since 2015.

[@OuiGodApollo23]

I feel like this was common knowledge, a well established theory that was accepted by the community.

[@Nomad_03]

@@OuiGodApollo23 The "gods" are direct spirits, not all of the elfs. From what i understood anyway.

[@sveipr]

That literally been hinted at in the series for years.

[@OuiGodApollo23]

@@Nomad_03 Actually fair. But I mean it being revealed that modern elves descending from spirits isn’t all that crazy. It makes sense and actually makes sense. I think the game is just getting hate bombed because of certain aspects. Kinda like how in Dragon Age 2 was hate bombed because Anders was bisexual.

[@hippo762]

It is so stilted 😑

[@badfoody]

ok uh... we gotta talk about how hot that Rook is...

[@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307]

Wait, they killed off Flemeth off screen!? What the fuck!?

[@stupidme12114]

Do play DA inquisition

[@malasian]

no they dont. She got killed by Solas in Inquisitions post credit scene

[@LeadMetal82]

She was killed AT THE END of inquisition.

[@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307]

@@stupidme12114 I will not cause importing what I did in the first two games is a pain in the ass. Especially with EA’s shit origin site crashing on me.

[@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307]

@@malasian Yeah, I just saw the ending.I get the theory that Flemeth sent Morrigan Mythal’s soul but kept the old god soul she got from Morrigan’s son as a decoy for Solas to take cause Mytahl’s soul is too powerful. My apologies. I would’ve played inquisition if the importing of my choices from the first two games wasn’t from EA’s shit site! I have the 360 version and I don’t have Xbox live!

[@stupidme12114]

AFAIK Flemeth did not fell in Love with the Chasind Chieftain, but agreed to the Chieftain's proposal to be wed to him in exchange of wealth to be given to her Bard lover. Then they were betrayed and that's when she sought help of the "Spirit"

[@skymaticsamos9478]

Aka: they dont give a fuck about any previous established lore. What else is new.

[@RG32822]

​​@@skymaticsamos9478 You familiar with Andraste bro?

[@jbleargh]

How the hell they explained this smiling Morrigan? What happened? In other games she laughs, mocks and teases but don't remember she ever smiling.

[@thomasb2031]

my face is tired