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[@thomashiggins9320]

Please. Guys. The portals connect 1,317 *solar systems* -- a tiny fraction of the approximately *20 billion* in Milky Way Galaxy, alone. So the portal doesn't "connect galaxies," it connects solar systems in one tiny little part of *this* galaxy. 🤨

[@johnmoore-fm9db]

I love the fact that when Amos is talking to Murtry he calls him a different name every time, Marty, Murphy etc

[@procrastinator99]

So good. Amos shade is best shade.

[@StarkRG]

I've seen it confuse a lot of reactors (well, two, but two can be a lot). They're struggling to learn new character names and one of the characters keeps being misnamed.

[@Brendissimo1]

It's very intentional, he knows exactly what is name is, and he only gets it right on very deliberate occasions. Very interesting choice.

[@mufana1]

Murtry isn´t a scientist, he is RCE´s chief of security. 29:08 - Solar systems, not galaxies.

[@mattybob12310]

I think the Aspect Ratio being widescreen on Illus was done becuase it was the first real Planetside excursion. That, and, to me, it makes it feel like an old Western Movie, for reasons that will become clear soon...

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

Also it wasn’t forced in post (at least not for the majority). HQ anamorphic lenses were used. And lemme tellya, making sure the frame is clear for anamorphics requires a fair bit of attention. But …worth it!

[@LeeCarlson]

Remember The Investigator told Holden, "You're a tool that goes places like I'm a tool that finds things."

[@StarkRG]

Holden is also good at pushing buttons. Flipping switches, making system-wide announcements with enormous assumptions based on little data, sticking his hand into gaps inside crazy ancient alien space stations, throwing coffee machines, etc.

[@Paxford0502]

I always, always, ALWAYS love when people think they can threaten Bobbie.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

They really hit her fist with their faces a helluva lot.

[@WallOfScience]

Not only is Bobby a Marine, she's a Force Recon Gunnery Sergeant. She is trained to pilot any military craft in existence to wherever you are hiding, find you, and end your life with any weapon on hand. That's job description is near the top of my "Do Not Mess With" list.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

That’s a bear you don’t poke. You just let her go by and do her thing.

[@juliasmith960]

She's from the Ef Around and Find Out squadron!

[@LeeCarlson]

The actor who first played Arjun Avarsarela was unavailable to play this role when Amazon picked up the series and so was recast. In my opinion, it was an injustice to the character.

[@vinsanity40k]

no disrespect to this actor, but they're like a budget version of the original guy 😄

[@Erithacus]

The fact that he looked alike this priest from Thomas Prince did not help. I don't get why he had such an extended role, I guess they needed someone for Avasarala to talk to, but man.. that was such a bad casting choice.

[@Dynnen]

Thank you for blinking Clarus, I thought my internet died 😆

[@TsunZiven]

Regarding bone density loss in space, remember that one of the advantages of the Epstein drive is the constant acceleration that is present during the majority of a trip to a destination. I think most ships travel at 1/3 G to optimize fuel efficiency. So an Earther on a ship would have much slower bone density loss than current ISS astronauts.

[@PsychoMuffinSDM]

I don’t think it’s for efficiency, I think it’s more for the belters comfort. An all earth crew can fly at 1G, and mars at 1G as training, and way more in couches if time is important.

[@reactionaryinfidel]

Yeah exactly. Accelerate toward the destination half the time, accelerate away the other half, get "gravity" the whole time. Relativity helps sometimes.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Yes, 1/3rd is Belter standard for comfort but since they're often poor they will only accelerate for a little while and drift for most of the trip to save fuel.

[@remliqa]

@@rodentnolastname6612 1/3 G is actually around the surface gravity of Mars so it would be comfortable for both Belter and Martians.

[@ravenward626]

I think the bigger pole in the tent may be due to goring up in low G environment. The difference between maintaining and forming bone density would probably make a difference. Our bodies are also built to keep blood from pooling in our legs, I wonder if low G development would effect the circulatory system?

[@mildlydazed9608]

That pause before starting made me think the video broke Nerdy. So glad to see another Expanse episode.

[@patlogic9512]

lol yeah same but then I looked at Clarus.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@patlogic9512 Which was much more pleasant anyway.

[@RonMar]

I thought the app crashed or hung.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Expanse will break Nerdy a couple of times, I expect.

[@corystanish]

I thought I had accidentally hit spacebar and paused the video but then Clarus blinked.

[@jamesholland5761]

The aspect ratio change is only on Illus. Reason is this season on Illus is intended to be like the old west! Looking forward to the next one!

[@y00t00b3r]

Yes. Epic westerns which were filmed in CinemaScope. They are setting a mood deliberately. And making a deliberate reference to these older classics.

[@Luzarioth]

Amos Eyeballing something seems funny in the Show. In the Books, they remind us that Amos is doing complex mathematical equations in his head on a daily basis.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yeah, we have to keep in mind that Amos (and most Belters as well) are engineers.

[@wompa70]

Calling him “the science guy” is hilarious to me. He was the aggressive one in Torchwood and a couple of other shows. Seeing him as the nervous scientist in Pacific Rim was the hardest “suspension of disbelief” for me during that movie.

[@remliqa]

Don't forget he dominated Jon Snow in straight fight and would've killed him of ni for some meddling Wildlings. He was a fucking legend. A Fucking Legend!

[@MattNolanCustom]

first time I saw him was as a meek and pathetic (in the original meaning of the word) character in some Dickensian period piece. Then seeing him as the aggressive one in Torchwood took some getting used to. Speaks to his acting abilities even if these days he seems to get type-cast

[@sharpeslass5452]

​@@MattNolanCustom"Guppy" in Bleak House. Same thing I first saw him in. Torchwood was second.

[@chrism7395]

I think the aspect changes were to emphasise that Ilus has a horizon and huge skies (especially to Naomi) compared to the human environments of the Belt, Mars, Luna etc

[@Mannchini]

I agree, I almost think it was intentional to disorientate people on Ilus because of that "unknown" factor. Didn't actually notice it myself, but I felt it.

[@cyrussmith4744]

@@Mannchini exactly, it makes the scenes feel "different", which fits the fact that we are in a world that is just being discovered

[@matthewtopping2061]

Clarus' eyebrows are positively bangin today

[@anon_234]

The protomolecule is basically an AI or something close to it. It was told to go to Earth, collect whatever biomass it finds, create a gate and contact its makers for new orders. However, in the last season it found the gate hub was locked, it couldn't unlock it on its own, and needed help to unlock the hub. Now, it's still trying to fulfill its orders and contact the species that made it, and it still needs help to do that since the systems are so old they've largely broken down. It's not doing what it's doing out of curiosity, animosity, or anything like that, just a machine trying to follow its programming and report back. As for Miller, it absorbed his memories, so it knows Miller's a detective. Since it's trying to figure out how to report back, it's using him and his memories to figure out what's wrong with the old alien systems.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

“To suggest is to create. To define is to destroy.” - Mallarme. I humbly suggest you don’t overexplain what’s happening. Part of the fun of narratives like The Expanse is guessing what’s happening, even misinterpreting the truth. You’re potentially robbing them of some of that fun. Though I know they’re ahead in episodes. Still, take it eas’, bro.

[@billross7245]

Amos didn't visit Earth while he was in orbit, but he seems right at home on the frontier trading bullets for booze.

[@CodeMonkey76]

The book did much better at descriptions of the landing pad explosion. The show really glossed over it and didn't provide a good visual. In the book, the ship was almost landed when the landing pad was blown up and resulted in damage to the ship and a crash from relatively low altitude (hence, why most people survived the crash), where the show made it almost seem like they were shot down from a higher altitude and higher velocity.

[@MattNolanCustom]

the show leans more into slowly resolving mystery, ambiguity and multiple interpretations than the books

[@RocketToTheMoose]

Brian George, who played Chrisjen's husband in season one, just wasn't available for this season.

[@crtmojo2705]

Planets, Earthers, Dusters, Belters, now over a thousand new systems. I love where the show has taken us and especially where its headed.

[@RemboBajingo]

It is mentioned in the books that most earther crews keep their engines burning at a rate of 1g most of the time, which simulates natural earth gravity. Martians military personnel also train extensively at 1g as so they can keep up with earthers in high g maneuvers. Belter crews typically cruise at lower burn rates more suited to the spin gravity on belter colonies.

[@liamjohnston2000]

The Roci tends to run at 1/3 g (Martian gravity) most of the time

[@mmattson8947]

For some reason, the intro 1:35 reminded me of the opening scene of the "Gilmore Girls" pilot episode. Luke: How many cups of coffee have you had this morning? Lorelei: None. Luke: Plus... Lorelei: Five.

[@mjbull5156]

The protomolecule is not necessarily unaring about humans because it is AI, it just that humans are not its people. "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. Always a boom tomorrow"

[@kirkdarling4120]

Nerdy, you don't remember the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who? Hardly anyone liked the recast of Arjun. That's not to disrespect the actor, Gregory Beneyar...he's just the wrong actor to continue how Brian George had presented the character to us. Brian George gave us a very mild and gentle character. Gregory Beneyar in both appearance and demeanor presents a stronger character. After The Expanse had been originally cancelled...remember, it had been flat-out cancelled...Brian George had snagged another contract before Amazon picked the series up. Inners like Martians and Earthers use ships to get form rock to rock, and thus (thanks to the Epstein Drive), they always travel at 1/3rd gee, which is probable enough to maintain bone density. Deep space Belters like Naomi and Drummer spend much more time in full zero gee from infancy, thus they never gained high bone density in the first place. If you had captions turned on, you can see that when Bobbie tried to introduce herself to the Martian officers at the reception, the one Martian said to the other, "She's the one who got our team killed on Ganymede." So the Martian Navy scuttlebutt is that she's responsible for the Ganymede incident as well as the two Martians killed on the Behemoth. Remember how the first season was mostly the noire detective genre? The aspect ratio switches are a key to the genre of this season...you ought to be able to figure that out before they outright tell you. It's a common movie trope...I believe Denzel Washington did it most recently. Proto-Miller said when he first appeared, "I'm a tool that finds things, you're a tool that goes places." The Ring-building Protomolecule device is trying to contact its masters; Holden is nothing but a tool in that effort. The Roci team hasn't yet found the glob of Protomolecule.

[@davebcf1231]

I know I'm in the minority, but I think the Arjun recasting was good. Brian George is a very good actor, but I never bought that this very meek, soft spoken man would be married to a woman like Avasarala. I think Beneyar is much more believable as the type of person she'd marry. Much more an equal to her instead of someone who it feels like she'd just walk all over.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@davebcf1231 What's funny is that in last season's Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, Michael Beneyar plays Spock's Vulcan prospective father-in-law as the same kind of mild husband married to a strong-willed Avasarala-like Vulcan wife...played by the same actress who plays Avasarala's daughter in The Expanse.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@kirkdarling4120You are continually a font of knowledge, Kirk. It’s honestly impressive to a minutiae geek like me!

[@remliqa]

1/3 G is actually the surface gravity of Mars and the Epstein drive was developed there. I think that have more to do with why it was chosen as the standard acceleration ..

[@amarokorama]

"remember, it had been flat-out cancelled" - No, it hadn't been. I told you before, remember? Alcon Entertainment owns the show, and to quote one of their CEOs: "Unlike the way that it's phrased, which I've always had an issue with, in the press, they [SyFy] didn't cancel the show, because they couldn't cancel the show, we own the show, it's ours. They couldn't cancel our show. What they did, to be very specific, is they elected not to continue to license the show for their rights based upon the contract we had." I was a mere 16 days between SyFy dropping out and Amazon picking it up. That's not enough time for Brian George to "snag another contract". He never had a contract as a series regular anyway, he was a guest star, only appeared in 4 episodes of season 1, and in a single episode of season 2 (S02E05 "Home"). He could have become a regular in season 4, but had landed another job by then. That job was a main cast member of the NBC sitcom "I Feel Bad", which started production early 2018, before The Expanse season 3 even began airing. PS: "not to disrespect the actor, Gregory Beneyar" - his name is Michael Benyaer.

[@spacechampi0n]

Why do you keep calling it a different galaxy? It is not a different galaxy, Ilus is a planet in a different star system within our Milky Way galaxy.

[@dmann05]

I think they are leaning into the super widescreen look of a frontier western for the scenes on Ilus

[@wompa70]

The best AI show I’ve seen is “Person of Interest” from 2011. Fantastic series!

[@tiffanymarie5674]

Second that!!

[@natelung]

Third

[@remliqa]

5:09 I think you guys miss who Bobbie noticed walk past her just a few seconds ago, it was her nephew's girlfriend. You should rewatch that scene .

[@HeliRy]

“It is truly miraculous that physics works.” _The Trisolarans have entered the chat…_

[@HaleysTusk]

The issue of living in space isn’t only about radiation as much as it is about our physiology with no gravity. Our entire evolution is based on 1G gravity which affects everything including our circulatory system, bone density & muscles including our heart…

[@dapeach06]

The recasting of Arjun is the only real problem I had with season 4. Especially when Arjun acts more like a political advisor than a husband, and acts nothing like the loving, supportive Arjun we got in S1 and 2. I blame the writers honestly.

[@prodestrian]

Ok, so the KZbin app on my TV does this weird thing where the first video I watch after powering on the TV will buffer for 5 seconds before playing. And of course this video was first in my feed this morning when I switched it on. You got me 😂

[@DaxRaider]

you forget that holden aint in zero g all the time the ships fly with mostly 1G when tehy accelerate

[@Erithacus]

Isn't that 1/3 G?

[@Justanotherconsumer]

No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There’s always a boom tomorrow. -Ivanova (B5 “Signs and Portents”) Delenn deserves a chance to be algorithm goddess. Ivanova, on the other hand, is God. (She said she was kidding and intended no offense, but…)

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

We live for the one. (Nice to see some B5 love up in here! Still one of my favourite series ever, even if the wait between episodes and seasons was murder on those of us who watched it on the first run.)

[@AugustEverywhere]

The fakeout was what I needed. Making us all double check whether the video was playing. LOL

[@Icypenguigo]

LOL Yuzhaan Vong reference for the WIN!!!!!!!!!!

[@KrixSolith]

0:35 From the Vashta nerada reference from Clarus (hey, who turned out the lights? )to the Yuuzhan Vong reference from Nerdy. It's such different worlds of sci-fi/fantasy but also not far off at the same time, I definitely experienced both at very different times in my life.

[@xboxman1710]

If there is any confusion as to why Bobbie is being so poorly treated by other Martians, she received a Dishonorable Discharge when she was kicked out of the Martian Marines; while that might not seem like a big deal to the average person for a former soldier it is a giant black mark on her record that is equal to committing a felony. In a highly militarized near-authoritarian society like the MCR such a mark would make it almost impossible for her to find a decent or respectable job. While we know her actions were nothing but heroic as far as the Martian authorities are concerned she is at best a malcontent or at worst a traitor to Mars.

[@Metro498]

22:07 Where do they get the ideal the Rings open to different galaxies? No, the Ring network is inside the Milky Way galaxy, and star systems are within 10,000 lys from Sol system.

[@MattNolanCustom]

the distances haven't been made explicit in the TV show, AFAIR. It makes sense that the destinations can only be relatively close within the Milky Way if you think about the physics of the ring-building protomolecule samples having to travel first, and how long they've had to do it, but that might not be obvious to someone not that well versed in astronomy or cosmology. The only explicit info in the show that I can think of is a good handful of episodes beyond this point.

[@brandonreed09]

Ya they just jumped to that conclusion right away when the rings opened. I have no idea why. Given the process of building the rings it makes no sense they would be in different Galaxies, it takes so long just sending the proto molecule to different star systems in the Milky Way.

[@billross7245]

Chrisjen should have led with "Have a seat, Arjun". It's sort of strange to wait and wonder about a recast character. It took me out for a minute.

[@wagnarokkr]

19:13 the hat thing was actually very deliberate. alex wore a hat like that in the first few episode of the show, but seemingly left it on the Donnager before it blew up and we never saw it again. cas anvar, though we later found out he was a pretty terrible person in real life, kinda led the charge in drumming up fan support for the show after it got canceled, and one of the silly little things he talked about was promising to get the hat back into the show if fans made enough noise about the show that it got picked up again. and it did, and he did.

[@swedish_malin]

Aand I'm all caught up... I've been watching all of your reactions to The Expanse in the last five days. 😃 Waiting with the rest for new updates now, and I'll check out the rest of your channel (I just subscribed)... love your energy, the nerdiness and the TV production perspective that you bring!

[@MirorR3fl3ction]

Regarding the bone density issue, Astronauts only lose bone density due to the microgravity of being weightless in orbit. In The Expanse they can travel long durations burning continuously to create at least 0.3G acceleration, which significantly helps prevent Inners from Earth and Mars from losing bone density. The Belters grow up in 0.3G or less, and therefore never develop significant bone density, preventing them from safely traveling down larger gravity wells like Earth. Belters also cannot handle as high accelerations compared to Earthers, so Earthers ships can literally travel faster than Belters. Martians can only survive on Earth and at high Gs because most of their military trains for high G in case they ever need to invade Earth directly.

[@misterkite]

Your discussion of WOT made me wonder, any plans on doing a readthrough of the expanse after the show is over?

[@StarkRG]

Bone density loss in astronauts is about not being subject to the constant strain of gravity, however ships in the Expanse are almost always under thrust. I think it's usually 1/3 g like on Mars, but military ships, particularly MCRN ships, go for a full 1 g to maintain their readiness for surface engagements on Earth. I'm guessing the Roci accelerates at 1/3 g or maybe 1/2 g for Naomi's comfort. Space stations rotate to provide gravity to maintain bone density for workers, probably also at 1/3 g because it simplifies construction, but the higher up you go (closer to the axis of rotation), the lower that apparent gravity will be. The rich people, usually the Inners, live as close to the outer parts of the station as possible, leaving the poor Belters to live in the lower-gravity sections with greater Coriolis forces. This is why, in a very early episode of the series, we see Miller pour a drink and it flows sideways. If you're not moving, centrifugal force pulls you straight down (outwards from the axis), but anything falling will seem to move anti-spinward (the opposite of the direction the station is rotating). If you throw something spinward it'll drop faster than you'd expect, if you throw something anti-spinward it'll appear to stay airborne longer and, if you throw something along the axis, it'll curve anti-spinward. Centrifugal sports would be really interesting.

[@HeliRy]

Did the books ever disclose what the little swarms of throwing-star thingys are? Are they a life form, or part of the planetary machine?

[@iaingoldie1542]

Glad to see the Vashta Nerada getting a reference. A truly horrifying villain.

[@Luzarioth]

Hey, who turned out the light ?

[@johnniequinn3215]

I just came here to check out a book.

[@robertcartier5088]

count the shadows...

[@aftonforred3685]

I think Ilus is in widescreen because its the first time Naomi has experienced a planet. They want to focus on the expansivesness of this new world.

[@rocinante4609]

If u want to get all technical about the science of it, you could ask how are they able to walk on a random planet like they would on Earth? The gravity of Ilus would be different to gravity that Holden and others would be accustomed to on Earth. So they shouldnt be able to walk like that. For the enjoyment of the show I had ignored these small details. The show does a great job overall weaving science into the story. This is perhaps the most scientifically faithful movie or a show ever made.

[@robertcartier5088]

Oh, wow! _"Vashta Nerada"_ !!! ;-]

[@eds1942]

I started to watch it with the TV’s zoom picture size, which eliminates the widescreen bars.

[@KingApeiron]

Ilus is shot in the wider ratio to emphasize the boundless horizon as opposed to the physical claustrophobia of Mars and the social claustrophobia of Earth.

[@JJSmith1981]

The aspect ratio thing is just to make Illus more alien. The landing pad explosion/shuttle crash/proto-molecule metal bugs are supposed to be confusing at this point. We've seen the show do this before where they give you options for what is going on. Holden is doing shit that he does not understand because he trusts someone. Then it make trouble for everyone. Lastly, if you go back to the computer graphic, in the first episode of this season, where Naomi is working out after taking here gravity drugs it does show that here cardio is behind her other systems.

[@mmattson8947]

Regarding the overused idea of "AI = deadly threat", Hollywood in general clings to the theme that "there are some things mankind was never meant to know", so anything new and non-human becomes a danger. Books that explore these kind of ideas in great depth and complexity usually wind up squeezed and oversimplified into the same pigeon hole in the movie version. (Not saying that is the case in The Expanse. Not surprising that the Protomolecule has different priorities than the human civilization. Its programmed loyalties are to its original designers, not to other alien species.) I like how Asimov handled A.I. in his book "I, Robot". (Not whatever the movie was.) Susan Calvin (the robopsychologist) has a fondness for robots, and usually likes them better than her human co-workers. She also has a healthy respect and fear of them. In the short story "Little Lost Robot", she points out that the robot in question was stronger and could think faster than humans, but it was disrespected, treated as a slave, and verbally abused by a researcher who lost his temper. If the robot's behavior wasn't constrained by the Three Robotic Laws, the very-human reaction would be to not put up with that kind of treatment by (inferior) beings, potentially through violent means.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

As usual, you'll have questions and they'll lead to answers that lead to more questions... 😞

[@nickrubin7312]

9:30 some visions from Prothean beacon, but just happens to be different series xD

[@GuardianOwl]

Well, one way Earthers avoid that problem with bone density is how their ships travel. In the current space station, there is no acceleration (except to keep the station in orbit) so they are constantly in free fall, the equivalent of perpetual 0G. When traveling in ships in the Expanse, they are under constant acceleration for half the journey, then flip and burn the opposite way for the rest of the journey in constant deceleration. So they use the acceleration and deceleration to generate simulated gravity of as much fraction of a G as the Belters on the ship can handle. In ships piloted only by Earthers, they would likely accelerate/decelerate at 1G or slightly higher to maintain bone density. The only time they would experience lower gravity is when docked at a non-Earth port.

[@onikaze8445]

I think you will understand scientist guy's reasoning less and less as the season continues. His reasoning is a bit more clear up front in the book.

[@evilvolts]

they did experiments with identicle twins one stayed on Earth and the other spent a significant amount of time in space when he returned there were differences

[@Icypenguigo]

It's interesting, in the books, Naomi is not on the planet. She doesn't even have any interest in being on the planet. She's a Belter. Belters live in space. She tolerates the gravity for a few hours while the Roci lands on the planet, but she's very happy to just get back into space, where she belongs. Also, Ilus is a larger planet than Earth. It has 1.5X Earth's gravity. So it's VERY rough on Belters. It's even tough on Earthers. Ilus is just VERY valuable because of it's MASSIVE deposits of lithium.

[@MattNolanCustom]

The TV adaptation brought Naomi down to the surface for a number of reasons, I suspect: one of them being that there are simply too many plots going on in most books to fit all of them in a TV season and it's an easy one to cut completely or fold into events on the surface. Mainly though, I think they do it to illustrate some of the perils of belters trying to adapt to higher G environments via a main character who we are invested in, to see her wondrous awe moment of landing and stepping out into the wide open space, and to show how deeply invested she is in trying to protect belter rights.

[@UserName-vb4lg]

Lol. The Vashta Nerata. Are you guys doing the 60th anniversary shows?

[@dougpirko211]

Why different galaxies? There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy--the portals don't need to lead to other galaxies.

[@mjbull5156]

What is interesting about travel by wormholes is, any gates that are right next to each other could be on opposite sides of the galaxy, or even in another galaxy. Unless you can get a fix on some familiar astronomical objects, you may not be able to tell where in real space you ended up.

[@MattNolanCustom]

@@mjbull5156 while that may be correct, access to the ring space and hub is via the rings, and they did not travel through worm holes. As far as we understand, they arrived as protomolecule delivered by asteroid, moving slowly enough to be captured by planetary gravity wells. They couldn't have come from another galaxy in just a couple of billion years. The ring destinations are within our galaxy

[@nighthiker]

Hey, guys... I see you keep talking about "another galaxy"... But as far as I know Ilus is still in the Milky Way (about half way across the galaxy). The Galaxy is about 100 thousand light years across, so all the rings actually lead to other planetary systems inside our own galaxy, up to dozens of light years away. There are some small, satellite galaxies which are closer, but Andromeda, the closest fully fledged galaxy to ours is about 2.5 million light years away. This just goes to show how mindboggingly big the Universe is, with estimated 200 billion more galaxies other than "ours".

[@johnniequinn3215]

I'll happily watch "Her" if you guys find the time to watch 1984s "Electric Dreams"

[@davidbergfors6820]

24:18 I believe it was Scheduling conflict.

[@amarokorama]

Sort of. Some people incorrectly attribute it to the brief "cancellation" of The Expanse, but that had nothing to do with it. The actor, Brian George, had landed a role in the main cast of the NBC sitcom "I Feel Bad", before season 3 of The Expanse even started airing. Here's what showrunner Naren Shankar said in an interview with Culturess: Culturess: When watching season four, I had to do a double take with the change in casting for Avasarala’s husband, Arjun [originally played by Brian George, but replaced by Michael Benyaer in season four]. Why the case change? Shankar: The thing about it, Brian George, who played a Avasarala’s husband in the first two seasons, had become a regular on an NBC series and we tried really hard to get him back because we loved him, and he really wanted to do it. But the schedules just would not permit, and we had very little flexibility because of how we were able to shoot it, and Michael Benyaer we brought in. It’s not something that you do lightly. And certainly, we loved Brian. It’s a tough thing to do. It does happen sometimes on shows of this nature where characters come in and come out, and you know, I think Game of Thrones went through this a few times with different characters. Yeah, and you try to do your best to avoid it, but it’s not always possible. And here's Ty Franck from the "Ty & That Guy" podcast, episode 50 about "TheExpanse407" (timestamp 7m0s): Wes: Did we talk about the recasting of her husband yet? Ty: I don't think we have, we may have talked about it briefly. Wes: Do you want to talk a little bit about that and how that sometimes works in shows and how that happened? Ty: I mean it happened because Brian George wasn't available. He... a 100% of the story is, Brian George, um, we had talked to him about coming back, he said he was interested in coming back. Then when we reached out to his agents to to sign him up and go through the casting process, his agent came back and said, "oh, Brian just got signed as a recurring character on a sitcom", and I think that sitcom was only a one-season sitcom, or if even that, it didn't last. But if you have a chance to be a recurring character on a sitcom as an actor, you take that because that is just, that's a fat paycheck and so nobody was mad at Brian for taking that over coming back to us. Like, we would not have paid him nearly what he would have gotten paid for doing multiple seasons of a sitcom. So, that's fine, I mean Brian's doing what he needs to do for his job. But it meant we didn't have that character, and so yeah, we had two choices. Either we don't use the husband character at all in season four. Or we recast, those were our only two choices, and we seriously considered just writing the husband out of the show when Brian couldn't come back. But the argument was made in the room that so many story lines in that season involve her relationship with her husband, that if we just wrote that out, there would be this big hole in the Avasarala storyline, and we weren't sure how to fill that hole, so the decision was made to try to recast. And recasting is always hard, it's uh... audiences always think that they're fine with recasting, and then every time you do it, the audience will get pissed at you. So, it's a hard decision to make.

[@davidbergfors6820]

@@amarokorama so I am correct, it was a scheduling problem. I never said anything about the cancellation. Thank you however, for the clarification.

[@KingApeiron]

Hey, who turned off the lights??

[@kendalldesouza4595]

You know what Nerdy to be fair if tonight someone pulled me out of bed tonight, put a gun to my head and told to name the first DW character that came to mind 8/10 times I'm saying Ood. For the life of me I could not tell you why.

[@Triskaan]

Ha, I expected Clarus to have more snark at Alex's reaction at Lucia being married. Yeah, very small detail I know. ^^

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I dunno about life 'just as easily', especially with regards to silicon. Life on Earth depends on... well, a lot of things, but there's *way* more silicon in the Earth's crust, so if silicon based life could develop, it wouldn't develop anywhere that people could live.

[@davedahl4461]

This season reminds me of the Western Shane. I really recommend it.

[@not_llike_that]

I’d happily watch a Subnautica playthrough by Nerdy. Such an amazing experience

[@davidbergfors6820]

Modern technology does not have powerful enough engines, this show has gravity in ships, however minute. I guess that would mitigate the bone density loss.

[@iheartlofi]

Claru looks like Anya Taylor-Joy

[@2nd3rd1st]

I think declining an invitation from the UN Secretary General is a bigger power move ^^

[@spudsrus]

Yeah Nerdy you held the O face too long mate 😂

[@wild_lee_coyote]

There is an interesting Easter egg that Miller has that will explain what is going on. It will be interesting if they figure it out.

[@C.80]

Nerdy I just wanted to say I would also watch your full playthrough of subnautica :3

[@johnniequinn3215]

Shrapnel and throwing off the shuttles guidance systems was what I gathered from this episode.

[@richb313]

It gets interesting from here.

[@gilserrano8301]

we already sort of know that

[@garethlawton5278]

Yeah you pee out your bone density in space, the body always looks to be efficient and you just don't need the bone strength, there's no resistance so it gets rid. It's not a gradual thing either, the day you go up your body will start to adapt to it and shed needless calcium.

[@Paxford0502]

How odd are the ood

[@gabsrants]

goddamnit I fell for it

[@hellwalker76]

Vashda nerada ❤

[@Johury]

I usually wouldn’t bother, but I’m drunk so who gives a f. The Lavender Brown casting was kind of messed up to start with. I won’t defend changing the actor after JK described the character in a later book, (her skin colour really didn’t matter) but casting one of the few black actor as the background character named Brown, kind of bad.

[@thewheezingdead2492]

You do need to play subnautica.

[@Literallyjustmint]

Rover

[@jeffreypreiss8191]

Vashta Nerada reference. Excellent. Is it possible that Clarus became more attractive? This episode and the previous set up a few really good story arcs. I enjoy seeing Amos just being Amos, too.

[@elliottdearborn653]

Subnautica is amazing... just sayin

[@Maj_Kasul]

….

[@gilserrano8301]

Mars is a police State - just saying.

[@natelung]

This is why I get so confused with people. You guys talk about literally considering the existence of life being “miraculous.” You say this because the concepts of evolution are EXTREMELY far fetched to the human mind, and you’re admitting this. If you really think about it, it just seems too coincidental. Whether you belong to a religion or not, you have to admit that the one thing most have in common is “an act of creation.” In fact, in English, many atheists refer to the universe as… “creation.” Evolution is constantly being rewritten, almost every month a study is published about how part of the “theory” is wrong and needs to be revised. It’s been that way since the idea was first proposed, and it’s very foundations are flawed making all its conclusions unreliable. (side note, just the fact we know WHEN the idea of evolution was first proposed, makes it less likely to be true.) There’s no way it would have taken humans that long to realize the truth of where we came from. And yet it is taught in schools as FACT. That’s a failure of the scientific method, contradicting its own validity. My point is this… believing in an eternal, yet personal God who created everything is both less far fetched and more desirable.