Why couldn't McQueen just get an upgrade to become faster?

[@nedwheeler8114]

Some fans have pointed out that McQueen can’t get upgraded because of NASCAR’s rules. 1:30 Goof: He’s actually a steamroller :)

[@jonathanp.9633]

you forget to pin the comment

[@Rao_Sahab_7878]

Hey Ned, actually what I believe is that in the cars universe, the humans are inside the cars. So it's possible to get a complete revamp. But it's costly and hard. The people inside the cars make it harder to do a complete makeover.

[@nedwheeler8114]

@@jonathanp.9633 Thx 👍

[@AdistuffRBX]

@@Rao_Sahab_7878 Because of the owner of dinoco

[@vanshsureka2425]

but didnt he get upgraded for cars 2? couldn't he just use that, it already seemed pretty high tech

[@epicdude3659]

I'll be honest, Cars 3's plot is ruined when you consider that, in racing, there are different... classes? Divisions? I don't know, but technically, Jackson Storm and all the newer cars shouldn't've even been in the same race as McQueen. It should've been a different racing division that the new cars were in while McQueen and his buddies were all still able to race together with all of the other "older" race cars.

[@torak_34]

The king and chick shouldn’t have been in the same division as McQueen and the others in cars 1 either

[@BS23Designs]

Yeah, Cars 1 also had different generations of NASCAR. I think the next-gens in Cars 3 are supposed to be cars like Bobby Swift. But I assume the reason why Disney decided to choose hypercars as the next-gens is just to emphasize the gap, and made them look very different from the previous generation.

[@huatseng6037]

That is so true. That’s why it’s odd even on cars 1 that the king and chick (both are visibly older generation stock cars) were competing with McQueen and the rest of the pack which shares similar body types like McQueen

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Plus Cruz' story makes no sense. She's a superior racer to Lightning (as proven when she beats Storm) but somehow she was made to feel inferior and incapable? She beats Storm easily and pulls off Doc's flip on her first try.

[@thebritishpig]

@@BS23Designs Good theory that would explain a lot

[@Primus_075]

It could be seen as Illegal in a racing series to perform body modifications. Can you imagine an athelete coming in with a full Mech armour to enhance his performance or replacing parts of his body with mech in Olympics. It's probably the same with cars. There might also be some pride involved which stops some others to do it

[@rentertainment2769]

But I'm still confused on why McQueen was allowed to race with next-gen racers without him having next-gen features, it would be totally unfair.

[@whytakeroninsenpai]

@@rentertainment2769 I mean he could past almost every next-gen albeit with difficulty on the race, and a 7 time piston cup champion which could solidify him a spot there, but yeah still totally unfair. And it'd be too scary if McQueen with his experience got even faster than 200.

[@whytakeroninsenpai]

Then it'll just be unfair for them which is why they didn't. (Plot)

[@mdragonace]

@@rentertainment2769 yeah like, in nascar they use different type of vehicles in it. So it makes me confused on why McQueen, and the other Non- next gen racers get there own types of races all to themselves

[@drfrenchfrythe3rd]

What about his personal trainer? She’s not even a “race car”

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

I thought he was going to be upgraded in cars 3 to be honest

[@macminia_anton]

Yeah me too Edit: Wow 15 likes?

[@devlintaylor9520]

Yea that movie was a disappointment

[@SomeBody_The_Nobody]

@@macminia_anton 16* edit: 17 with mine :)

[@macminia_anton]

@@SomeBody_The_Nobody and now its 17

[@AspectLegend1]

I dont understand, why does he needs an upgrade when he has his fully working old v8 engine, well thankfully he didn't!

[@gggaming6893]

To be honest, they treat the cars racers more like athletes than actual machines. You can’t replace organs and muscles just cause your getting older, you’ve gotta work with what ya got. Just like any athlete, eventually you have to know when it’s time to hang up the hat and leave to the new kids. Allow them to have their time in the sun. It’s apart of growing up, learning that nothing lasts forever and to just enjoy it while you can. Truly an amazing message/theme for this movie and why I genuinely loved it. 😎👍

[@Chizinky]

​@CJ usain bolt has been on top for over a decade so that isn't too far from reality

[@lumnary7635]

​@Omesa1200 the thing is, the new cars from the cars universe are very much superior than the previous cars of the decade. So it would be more like bolt having to go against someone who is quite literally built different

[@macjalac5845]

Exactly how I thought, I feel like the problem wasn't that McQueen's car was slower, it's just that he's getting older and his reflexes and maximum output are degrading. Look at him in cars 2 being able to catch up to a Formula One car known for having a much higher top speed than Nascar. In the end, my point is that prime McQueen could beat Storm. Also this theory could explain why is McQueen is allowed to race with newer generation cars just how Fernando Alonso is still in F1 despite being double the age of some rookies as long as he's able to perform well.

[@Gogeta2501]

Shit movie

[@otb.devonte4276]

For example, what about the George Foreman movie. Like when he gotten old, he still managed to knock out some young cats in boxing

[@blerst7066]

It might be due to McQueen's body's limits. You can engine swap any car, but only if the engine bay is the right size and shape. Maybe McQueen already has the best upgrades his chassis allows. And as for Rod Redline, he probably meant he could replace his engine with the same model, which will obviously fit inside him.

[@defusion69]

We should ls swap mcqueen

[@prodigy-hu6dy]

Cars like Murray Clutchburn had that happen though

[@blank1873]

mcqueen is a corvette, doesnt he already have an LS engine?

[@icewolf575]

​@blank1873 no he's not?

[@takeasip8924]

@@blank1873Hey its a misconception that mcqueen is a corvette. Mcqueens design is an amalgamation of multiple different cars including a corvette which explains the similarities. But mcqueen isnt a real car

[@maxburner3500]

I believe it was the plot. He got upgraded in Cars 2: He had a different set of wheels and brakes and a different spoiler. He probably had some other modifications done to him to tackle Francesco's challenge. In the PSP games, McQueen goes through different transformations and modifications: he becones a dragster, a monster truck, a baja truck, etc. If he can do that, and it has been proven that cars can get modified in the films (look at the tuner gang or Mater stories), why can't McQueen get upgraded as well? You don't need a new engine to become faster, you can just modify your existing one. Or alter your gear ratio aerodynamics to gain top speed. Also, the King was running for 45 years and Chick Hicks for 20, and still, they were very capable of beating newer cars. Also, to those who say NASCAR don't allow modifications, it does not allow older cars to compete with newer cars neither, as they're obsolete and don't comply with the new rules. Meaning that McQueen would be force to retire and never compete against storm or go through a full body and mechanical redesign to become a next gen racer.

[@elitecombine5373]

Never seen a man speak so much facts before

[@duyducluu6821]

“They are still able to beat newer cars” This is especially true for the King, we all know why. His irl counterpart was banned for being literally too OP.

[@HamidVali]

The original body is back in cars 3

[@uberschnilthegreat22]

He also had functioning headlights and taillights installed, replacing the stickers since the tracks are no longer always LIT

[@lampad4549]

@@elitecombine5373 sure if your applying realism to a story yeah he could have gotten more modifications. But I seriously doubt you would be willing to apply that same standard universally.

[@theforestarcher9680]

Can't remember his name, but the German touring car from Cars 2, according to lore, was originally a street car. Through many upgrades and much training, he became a race car. Substantial upgrades are a thing in this universe.

[@ConnorLYT]

That’s max schell I’m 95 percent that he is based on a Mercedes’

[@MasterMCGS]

theres a car that changed his material for that one light metal i forgot the name(tytanium??) i think thats what youre saying

[@YoMama9545]

@@MasterMCGS it was carbon fiber. Titanium is much heavier

[@MasterMCGS]

@@YoMama9545 just after some time i realized hoe fricking dumb i sounded ty very much

[@aivanosgg2269]

Also axelroad changed his engine with an eletric one. It wasn't true, but if every car believed that it means that it's not impossibile

[@twistedaxles9126]

I think its above Piston Cup rules to be modified from the original piston cup shape and setup they were given, no matter how old they are, that would also explain why Chick Hicks and the King dint upgrade to 2003-2007 Piston Cup configs.

[@sherriffwiggles4515]

What about Murray Clutchburn and other stock cars from cars 1 that had both a frame and I assume an engine upgrade?

[@twistedaxles9126]

@@sherriffwiggles4515 wait, those are the same cars?

[@sherriffwiggles4515]

@@twistedaxles9126 Yup

[@codyfoster3205]

By that standard both the king and chick wouldn't be running as they are from the 70s and 80s era

[@leephelipe]

@@codyfoster3205 i'd say chick hicks is from the 90s, as there are other cars with similar caracteriterics to him

[@PigMachineSenpai]

People generally underestimate how crucial tires are. McQueen could (in theory) get slicks with a better compound and train like he did in the movie

[@prodigy-hu6dy]

It’s never really stated the actual role racing tires play. It’s not like the new gen wheels couldn’t fit on McQueen, as Cruz could put on both 1950s dirt track wheels, McQueen’s wheels and the next-gen wheel. It’s never stated if the Next-gen tire is a different impound or but it would have to be to accommodate the larger rim.

[@simon96376]

"they can't open doors" Meanwhile mater in cars on the road: *OPENS DOOR*

[@themysteriousveteran2249]

Great video! In my opinion McQueen didn't upgrade himself is because I think he wanted to gain speed instead of taking the easy way of upgrading, McQueen wanted to work hard and take it the difficult way, Besides it gave a purpose for McQueen to train for Cars 3 instead of upgrading himself. Edit: This was a theory I made 4 months ago so I agree that I was wrong. You are free to disagree to this theory, So now that I think about it, I mainly think it's because of the plot, It wouldn't be as interesting because that's just taking the easy way of beating Storm. Basically the movie wouldn't have had a good purpose without McQueen training so I guess you could say he trained for nothing. But he didn't give up, I'm just gonna think that McQueen's Body or Model is something he loves most and would never change it (besides Cars 2), Maybe to support the Veteran legacy? I have no idea, McQueen basically just pushed himself. So what i'm basically saying is the plot wouldn't be as more interesting since McQueen would beat Storm nowadays and make life easier, So it's basically the lesson that it teaches us, That you have to work harder for the goal you want to reach. If McQueen upgraded in the movie, it wouldn't have been a good plot, It wouldn't teach kids/adults an important lesson. So my main reason for now that remains is the Plot.

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

His "training" completely useless for speed. It also teaches kids a bad lesson that doing the same thing over and over again will solve their problem. If they incorporated modification, Cars 3 could've about an old timer getting with the times while still sticking to his old methods and being able to replicate his peak again. Also Jackson Storms' training and all his methods like taking the optimal lap route each time conflicts with McQueen being "smarter". So, remove that part of Jackson Storm. Jackson Storms' backstory as a whole is off, he should have been born as a modern racecar, not a esport guy. McQueen would need to be 'smarter' then him as the movie was telling us, while Jackson Storm would still be a more optimal racecar than McQueen, because he was in the oven being perfected for years while McQueen is just an old timer with modifications.

[@sherriffwiggles4515]

@@Breakaway-ic5gj Doesn’t it show that doing the same thing over again fails?

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@sherriffwiggles4515 Ah yes, that's what I meant Edit: Ah sh*t that was not what I meant, but yes in the movie it shows that doing the same thing over and over again fails. But in the most boring way possible, throughout the movie McQueen does his useless training. Then he goes to the race and just gives up pretty much.

[@matthewlui1004]

That's like trying to run better in worn shoes that seem that they may disintegrate anytime. You can train run faster physically, but you're better off buying new shoes. Especially when you are in a league and have sponsors. This is just a sad excuse for copy and pasting the plot from Cars 1.

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@matthewlui1004 They don't try hard enough because they know the toy sails will always sky rocket. Cars wasn't a masterpiece franchise it's laws still remain unclear, but McQueen people grew up and looked up to. Instead of landing that same impact and bringing these grown up kids what McQueen seemed to them as a kid, they just showed him retiring and shoved in Cruz, a childish energetic girl for maximum marketing. Damn I was obsessed with Lightning as a kid. But now after growing up I think back and realise there really wasn't much to him. In Cars 1 he is egotistic at the start, then he learns the power of friendship or something (Which would have actually worked with what the movie was going for in the beginning where Lightning lost because his tires got blown off but in the second race he could've let his crew change his tires or something) but of course that never happened, McQueen learnt the wrong power of friendship. Then he threw away his win for no reason, so last minute they can teach kids "Winning isn't everything!" Even I as a kid didn't fall for that. That part should've been about sportsmanship, where Chick Hicks constantly bumps into Lightning to take the lead, but when Lighting has the perfect chance he resists the feeling, and instead of that scene with the King Chick Hicks bumps into a wall and McQueen dodges it, then he wins. Cars 2 was a complete mess but for Lightning, he forgets the power of friendship again. Now in Cars 3 where they even have a fangirl in the form of Cruz, instead of making McQueen car Dante they make him a sad old man (Not sad himself but sad to look at) who repeats the same exact mistake for like the third time, then spends rest of movie in useless training, and in the final race he gives up his career just so Cruz can race. Even though he is such a big personality and can easily recommend anyone Cruz and they would take her in. You know nowadays when making kids movies the creators only make sure to remove Violence and dark themes, but don't actually attempt to teach kids valuable lessons for their life, instead they make their characters make stupid or unrealistic decisions, though that does do the trick as when the kid grows up they understand what not to do.

[@MrMarket1987]

Considering that Mater got a bunch of upgrades as a Spy, as I'm pretty sure Mater did get rocket boost upgrades, it strikes me as a Stock Car racing rules thing that others have been mentioning. Cause otherwise nothing is keeping him from further enhancements, but then I wager it would give him a bit of an existential crisis, like in the movie, about how he's no longer top of the line. Chances are, it's also an analogy about aging with grace on Lightning's part.

[@MrSirWivd]

Mater was upgraded for a highly funded spy mission. McQueen couldn't be upgraded because of rules about the sport of racing.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@MrSirWivd So they abused the loophole but upgrading the racers BEFORE they turn into racers?

[@EdgbertPrice24]

@@Geheimnis-c2e, well, I don't know of any place that manufactures cars with 150,000 dollars worth of racing parts right off the line.

[@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859]

Cars 2 isn't canon

[@EdgbertPrice24]

@@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859 I'd be interested in knowing where you got that information and its credibility.

[@LuiTheBazui]

I’m so happy you included Dusty’s new form in the 1st film. Planes really proved that an airplane can get upgrades easily. Dusty’s taken on a few forms. Lightning? A few too but I don’t get why Lightning didn’t get upgraded in cars 3-

[@simp2234]

Upgrade zonda

[@simp2234]

Will car 4 ever come out

[@georgemixalakis3724]

So in the mater's series mater in Japan got a upgrade on he's whole look

[@ashwinsuresh761]

@@simp2234 maybe

[@tedioussugar384]

@@Dan_R Planes proves that's not true. Dusty is an Air Tractor AT301 cropduster, but the new wings he receives before the last leg of the rally belong to a Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star jet fighter.

[@nicklas3404]

I think its due of the fact the cars are actually living cars, so they actually age and train themselves. In Cars 2, McQueen's top speed is 200 mph, but in Cars 3 is 198 mph. Thats might be actually because of aging, Cars as they got older in this universe, gets slower, their top speed gets slowly reduced as years went by after their peak. Another thing is that Mcqueen is training to be faster, in irl cars can never train to be faster, their top speed is set, they can get modification that let them be faster, but that is external and in the world of cars's case, will probably get slower as they age. The fact they are living cars means they can train to be faster without modifications, get faster or slower by aging, something not possible for irl cars. But the fact they are still cars makes their aging not be as visible as humans, can be given modifications and can still become obsolete and useless of their purpose due of newer, better cars.

[@SashaTheNun]

A car of 1970 (Superbird) that if im not wrong is 190 MPH beats nearly for a entire race a 2006 car, it's nearly contradictary cuz there are literally 36 years of difference between the Superbird and McQueen and the Superbird was faster than McQueen even it's an old model of race car, McQueen everyone said to him "He's getting old" but maybe he went from 20 (in cars 1) to 28 (in cars 3) he felt bad in an emotional way everyone near him said the same thing

[@denz2973]

Lightning's top speed was 198 mph on sand, so it's possible he could still go at 200mph

[@kuza3991]

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

[@thespeedchannel9571]

@@SashaTheNun He wasn't 20 in Cars 1, he was 29, he was 40 in Cars 3 as confirmed by the directors. This is unusual in real life circumstances, which was failed to be addressed in the first movie, the average age of a rookie driver in NASCAR and F1 is 22, so there is an unusual factor to this situation you refer to.

[@Mistertractor]

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[@NovakLedger]

So basically, Piston Cup has restrictions on upgrades. There's a reason why Mcqueen is described as 'stock' race car. You might argue that 'why did World Grand Prix allowed upgrades', well its completely different to Piston Cup and Nascar.

[@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock]

Pretty sure before the next gen racers you couldn't get upgrades The new gen racers are upgraded anyway so maybe McQueen could of

[@beastmode3172]

That was my exact point as well, both the Piston Cup, and the WGP are different leagues of racing as a whole. Not to mention, McQueen got most of those upgrades primary because he needed to compete with the other WGP racers, but of course people will also say "if that's the case, then why didn't he get (insert upgrade) in cars 3 if new rules happened?" And to that, I primary say it's because the setup McQueen already has was going well for him, that he didn't even need to change it.

[@NovakLedger]

​@@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock no, Car models have evovled after Cars 2 and that these Next Gen racers were born with these high tech parts already installed in them. Again, they are stock Piston Cup Race car but with advanced stuff that the Veterans dont have.

[@huatseng6037]

Not only that, next gen cars on nascar do not compete with older models. It’s highly regulated and in reality, McQueen would not be allowed to race because he does not fit the roster of the Piston Cup Series (assuming Piston Cup is Nascar on The Cars Universe)

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@NovakLedger Jackson Storm was not born a racer though, he must have got upgraded

[@AHSValor]

The thing with the lemons is that they require expensive modification and parts to be brought to a more reliable state - something most of them can't possibly afford. For the rich ones, they were more focused on taking revenge on the rest of the world than *conforming* and seeking modification. The rich lemons also took their broken-down state with pride, and used it to show off their status. There's also Tokyo Mater, if one may consider it cannon. Mater was able to go from a rust bucket, and get turned into something that can win a drift race, with the fate of the loser being returned to stock parts and performance. I can really see no reason why McQueen wouldn't be able to get modified and brought up to spec.

[@themuffinman775]

there is also the Screaming Banshee. surely that thing didnt come out of the factory like that or whatever. some Frankenstein shit

[@AHSValor]

@@themuffinman775 On top of Frankenwagon's Monster

[@tatistatidd]

he also got a new body type in cars 2

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Tokyo Mater isnt a cannon, it is a car

[@kuza3991]

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

[@bjmaguireii]

Funny enough Murray clutchburn and floyd mulvihill got “plastic surgery” so technically it is canon that they can body swap

[@Ollie.H-23]

I was gonna say the same thing. It's a lot more than just those 2 though. There's Ralph Carlow Todd Marcus Darren Leadfoot Ponchy Wipeout Ernie Gearson Murray Clutchburn Floyd Mulvihill Dirkson D'agastino

[@jamiegioca9448]

Was it a "swap", though? Or was it a remodel?

[@Ollie.H-23]

@@jamiegioca9448 remodel

[@al1zade]

I want to note that in the original cars in the opening scenes, the commentator mentioned that “King” (dinoco) has a chip tuning. So basically, they could upgrade the engine.

[@Andyisgodcky]

So, the big lesson here is "Don't think about it too hard"

[@snop7476]

I feel like he saw upgrading as cheating and/or didn't want to shoot down the inspiration for other cars that had hope he'd win in his original state

[@eskayseries3587]

Maybe

[@Mystic_Chizu]

It could just be that mcqueen is already at the limit of what the rules allow. even with the same engine, brakes, tires as the newer cars, its a lot more difficult to overcome a heavier body or issues with aerodynamics. Add to that the regulations, how close the racing is, and how much time it would take to do and get accustomed to such a significant rebuild. It would possibly mean missing an entire season and having to risk ruining your legacy once ready for a comeback.

[@Gogeta2501]

Major Plothole!!!

[@adenshaw5273]

Ever heard of muscle cars?

[@bruxotlaloc]

Same as with a car, you can replace an engine block; but swapping for another entirely different engine is only possible through extreme modifications (including chassis, suspension, transmission and so on). So an "upgrade" wouldn't be actually possible. You could upgrade a few things without much ado, like putting a turbo. But still those small upgrades wouldn't make him as fast as Storm. He would need a whole new engine and transmission to be as fast.

[@stargazer2312]

He would need to comply to NASCAR regulations. The cars need to be naturally aspirated. No turbos or superchargers.

[@marsftbl]

For people who didnt understand the ending of Cars 3: Jackson Storm's max speed is 320 kmph But Cruz Ramirez's max speed is 193 on the simulator. 2 variants why Cruz win: 1 variant - Lightning Mcqueen's friends from Radiator Springs upgraded Cruz's engine. 2 variant - Cars is also like people so if they believe yourself they can be fast, as more a car believe in yourself, as fast she is going so Cruz scared Storm and made him not believe in yourself but Cruz believes in yourself and gets her first win at races.

[@MrsPhilosopher]

Variant 3, strong wamen are obviously better?! It's pretty obvious what the ending was.

[@marcogentile3392]

variant 4 - She got Better by learning form McQueen and gained 10 or 20 km/h compared to her simulations.

[@Gogeta2501]

Disney nonsense tbh😂 But yeah self belief is big thing but lighting deserve win

[@godmyers]

Cruz Ramirez max speed on the simulator was in MPH not KMPH :) Cruz Ramirez top speed is 210 mph = 337 kmph, McQueens at 200 mph = 321 kmph.

[@grottoguru6473]

@@MrsPhilosopher This is the correct answer.

[@spoolysnail32]

You seem to have forgotten about the tuners in cars 1, they literally prove that modification is a thing in the cars world

[@richardsumrall1603]

Left it because it went against the rest of the episode.

[@TheCoverty]

Even in mater tales when he's drifting you can see stock boost ( from tuners gang ) without any tuning. Or a wingo. I can be wrong, but how i remember this dude was bullied cuz he was ugly and he made his own tuning shop and heavily modified himself.

[@mr.breadman4181]

​@@kentwood2914 bro you are on all the drugs

[@leephelipe]

the funny part about all this is that McQueen DID already upgraded himself, you guys remember the short 1/2 miles of radiator Springs? he got a rebuild to become a baja offroader, fine okay he didn't change his body but hell everything else he upgraded, a whole new suspension setup and likely a 4x4 AWD system, even in the beganing with that stanley costume, plus, lets talk about cars 2, he also got upgraded there, not as obviously but he did, new wing, new suspension tune, new tires, so what was stoping him from also remaping his ECU? adding a AWD system to help his cornering and all terrain capabilitys? you dont take a nascar car and just put against F1s and le mans prototypes and expect it to compete evenly conclusion: cars 3's writing is contradictory to the other events of the franchise, either that or they forgot car upgrading is a thing, McQueen likely is and was already modfied, ir shouldn't come as a scary as thing for mim, and dont even let me begain on OTHER modded cars there, cof road hazards gang tuners cof comparing directally with our world, if shoes (tires) compound upgrades are a thing, if i can change my legs, thighs, and knees and even feet (suspension and rims) without issue, and even change how my respiratory system (intake manifolds, turbos and superchargers as shown by the tuners) works, why cant i swap my heart for a higher beating rate one? (engine swaps, basically) why cant i change my apearence? (body work and aerodynamics)

[@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock]

He should of kept that wing from the 2nd film to fit in with the 3rd I honestly like mcqueens design from cars 2

[@guitarmaxxer]

@@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock wings aren't allowed in nascar

[@beastmode3172]

Except that McQueen wasn't having a official racing series that had rules and regulations for modifying, hence why he got upgrades in the films/shorts mentioned. The only reason he got a upgrade in Cars 2 was to compete with the other WGP racers, and that event also had the possibility of having rules and regulations.

[@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock]

@Arav neogy then why did the next gen racers have wings

[@beastmode3172]

@@Yes_im.a-lordpeacock thats because new regulations allowed wings in the sport, however, McQueen didn't get a wing primary because the wing he's using is still going strong for him. It's the same vain as to why the new generation NASCAR stock cars are different than the original ones, and that they added more regulations.

[@chasebh89]

doc probably didnt get upgraded much due to the 40s and 50s being rather limited to bolt on upgrades. any huge performance gains would require lengthy surgery (head machining, cylinder boring, manifold, pcv and filter system upgrades) and if upgrades constitute surgery then it would be illegal in sports (like steroids). mcqueen being unable to modify himself due to being a current performer vs jackson storm being created purpose built before entering if surgery is lengthy and traumatic then its possible the lemons would be permanently altered in ways they didnt intend just to be able to run properly

[@AHSValor]

Hot rodding was common in the 50s, however. Rod Redline, the American spy, also stated that he can replace his engine as if it was no big deal. This would lead me to believe that Doc _could_ be fitted with a custom motor and parts that streamline him for racing, to where he could continue racing for much longer. My theory about Doc is that he was a very hated racer in the industry. Betting wasn't uncommon, and he may have cost cars a lot of money by miraculously beating the rookies. It's easy to see that his crash was the opportunity for the disgruntled members in the industry to ensure he doesnt come back, and business continues as usual

[@the_kombinator]

PCV? Dump it into the atmosphere :P

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Or the lemons would loose so mich parts that they come out as a new car entirely, losing all of their memories and personality

[@kuza3991]

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

[@racdude01]

@@AHSValor my theory regarding rod redline is that you can replace one engine with another identical engine is fine cause it just bolts right in but to try and replace with a newer better engine would require heavy modification and may be too risky to do. It’s the same reason doc and McQueen get rebuilt to past spec because they just getting old parts replaced with identical bolt in parts not newer different parts. The human equivalent is organ transplants must match blood type or the body will reject it. Could be a similar situation here

[@admiralfurret]

I think they didn't give him a new body because his frame was kinda too old. The same goes for lemons as their parts were too old to be replaced, hence they are stuck like this. The rod on the other hand was factory new, meaning his parts could be easily replaceable. Plot wise however, Imagine someone being a champ for years despite being pretty weak due to the parts, and then seeing the same car pulling by to the track as an absolute Behemoth. Basicly he would be just way too op to exist.

[@lysander.o.c.3580]

Here's my theory. Cars are partially biological and partially mechanical. Not quite like the Terminator. But, more like a biological brain, tongue and eyes on a car frame. They would need air, not just for breathing. But, for combustion. They drink oil because it could act as both oil and a source of minerals, like vitamins for humans. They have fuel additives that could be compared to alcohol (planes has this as a plot point). Theoretically, they could upgrade their mechanical parts. But, not the biological ones. But, it's kind of like getting donor organs or upgrading a car in real life. There are certain limits and some parts may not work well.

[@iiextraheat3786]

Ned I just wanna say thank you for keeping a part of the cars community alive after several years. Cars was my childhood!

[@ericmueser]

I always assumed it was because of Piston Cup regulations. Competitors probably keep the same rulebook throughout their career. When McQueen started racing (say, 2006), he was compliant with the rules as of the 2006 season. As the regulations were updated, he was grandfathered into and bound by the rulebook from when he started. It would have been mechanically/medically possible to upgrade him (like we see Snot-Rod fitted with a blower as a modification), but he wouldn't have been Piston Cup compliant.

[@beastmode3172]

My personal belief, but I think it's because McQueen sees no reason to upgrade, and that if he did, it would go against his character as a whole. McQueen isn't necessary the one to cheat, or gain advantage towards other drivers unless it's in the freedom in to which he can. A good example of him upgrading without having restrictions was the Radiator Springs 500 1/2 short, as he basically upgraded himself to be a Baja type racer, but with no rules or regulations in doing so. However, both NASCAR and the Piston Cup are near identical, and having slight modifications, or even physical altercations to body, it would be rule breaking and most likely you'll end up being disqualified. But in short terms, it would go against McQueen's character as a whole, and that the rules and regulations exist to not exceed cheating.

[@khanyimtshali8930]

But how is he supposed to compete with the next gen's and also NASCAR does not allow older gen's to compete with next gen's so unless he modifies himself or retires

[@Aminmotors]

Okay but in Tokyo Mater, the japanese drift king is highly upgraded, and later gets put back to stock as punishment for losing

[@lunarcorpse]

I actually love the story for cars 3 because it made me think it was a homage(?) to doc when Mcqueen became the guy on the mic and he got to be the one to watch over the racer and give them guidance.

[@matheuswolters3448]

idk if this is true or not, but i've heard theories that in the cars universe, upgrading a car is equivalent to having surgery

[@williehampton3855]

And remodeling cars is just as expensive as plastic surgery. Imagine how much money a car has to pay in order to get a complete upgrade.

[@RetroAlex125]

@@williehampton3855 *cough cough* sponsor ship

[@williehampton3855]

@@RetroAlex125 Yeah, I guess that's one way to get fully upgraded.

[@zzz-ze3xt]

@@williehampton3855 he’s lighting McQueen, a living legend in Cars, why would he worry about the price?😂

[@williehampton3855]

@@zzz-ze3xt Good point. Guess he didn't think things through by using his notoriety as a racer to buy new upgrades other than an electronic suit. I mean, McQueen is pretty much a millionaire.

[@dylanmorgan5589]

I have a theory to add. It's entirely possible that McQueen DID upgrade his engine throughout his career but is simply reaching an aerodynamic limit. Engine swaps ARE cannon so it makes sense he'd do it. But a complete overhaul isn't. It would be the equivalent of a heart transplant compared a skeleton transplant. This also explains why the lemons didn't get upgrades any further. Their frames have a limit that lightning McQueen's frame doesn't have. McQueen's new engine could be twice the power of his first engine. But with that power comes risk, hence why after his crash his trainer wants him to take things slow. He's breaking in new parts.

[@santiagoperez2094]

This. To overcome aerodinamic problems you have to change hard points, it would be like doing femur enlargement surgery.

[@21amaterasu51]

whats funny is mcqueens top speed in cars 2 was 200. hes at 186 in cars 3

[@conqueror181]

@@21amaterasu51 That sounds right. A racecar would wear out overtime and lose power. You can replace a lot but you would eventually have to replace the whole car.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Power isnt the only thing. What about new bodywork for better aerodynamics?

[@dylanmorgan5589]

@@erichdegurechaff9515 that seems to be the limiting factor. You can make minor improvements but you can't alter the vehicle entirely at least in this universe. I think unlike cars in the real world, the cars in Cars have to be alive and running when modded and can't be completely torn down for a rebuild. Much like actual surgery. If you could turn off humans without any damage then we'd be able to perform all kind of surgeries currently impossible.

[@frate2727]

He already upgraded himself in Cars 2, so he could keep up with gt-cars and a formula 1 car. The only left explanation is he didn´t upgrade because of the plot.

[@westernstar9121]

Facts

[@RetroAlex125]

Yeah I am pretty sure mcqueen got a different wing and a different engine oh maybe not because his original spoiler was just a duck tail he basically turned into a gt car as you stated

[@TimeMasterOG]

well considering he is a nascar racer he needs to stay stock otherwise he cant race in nascar

[@ConnorLYT]

@@TimeMasterOG but NASCAR has newer next gen cars after the last season although the 6 car had gotten a upgrade and was suspended for a few races

[@myMotoring]

1. I think McQueen power is not an issue here it's more like aerodynamic and handling. His rear spoiler is too upright creating large drag. He should be upgrading to active aero to handle all of the situation. 2. All kind of cars can always upgrade the aerodynamic to be faster without adding more power. 3. Tokyo Mater & all the imports characters received upgrades. He even became jet plane & jet powered saltflat racer.

[@kyoshin7505]

McQueen probably lost his car insurance.

[@troifryson3418]

Yeah in Cars 3 it very well seemed that he could’ve upgraded. It wasnt ruled out in the film instead he chose to get faster in his own way (if it was possible) Plus the new racers McQueen was up against werent “born” that way or it seemed that way. They were built and trained that way in their universe. It definitely felt like it was never ruled out as an option for him he just wanted to be himself and get faster instead of basically going through hi tech plastic surgery.

[@Steveobrine_Official]

I remember watching the cars 3 trailer for the first time and thinking that it would be about giving McQueen an upgrade after the crash. It was a cool theory, so I was surprised when it didn’t happen. I had this question in my head for a while, glad you finally covered it!

[@lordshuv-rowyoknow6486]

There might also be a possibility that each car was unique on its own, each having a slightly different part that others, so any other parts cannot be fitted in another car. Also since cars and planes are alive here changing any inside parts should be almost impossible since the engine has to constantly on for them to be alive.

[@rat9134]

Here's my theory: The directors love saying that Cars is a metaphor. We kinds ignore it, except for when it comes to plot. But maybe, (and this fits with the Pixar theory) The eyes, tongue, and any other organs are what the CARS see. The cars are robots. Like one director said, after an answer to a very similar question in an interview, said something along the lines of: "You know self-driving cars? Maybe one day they say, "Hey, we don't need humans any more, they're just baggage," and just get rid of them." I think that the cars are all just robots/self-driving vehicles, that communicate eith eachother. They still have entertainment, and they still have "emotions(?)", so they'd obviously see the other cars as people. I think the organs and all of that in a car is just a metaphor for what the robots see and experience when communicating with other cars. The only loophole to this though, is when McQueen had hiccups. Idk, though, I think this one's pretty good.

[@jamiegioca9448]

"The only loophole to this though, is when McQueen had hiccups." As Dr. Olivia would say: "That's three, actually:" McQueen having hiccups, Mater being able to eat (and presumably digest) wasabi and the confirmation done by the creators themselves that the cars in the Carsverse have brains

[@ethanebang8902]

You see, the piston cup is all about stock cars, if you upgrade mcqueen hell become… not stock anymore

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

But then what is Jackson Storm ? He was a virtual racer, I am pretty sure he wasn't born a racecar. And you can't modify your racers, but can replace them with faster ones ?

[@1earedwolf]

@@Breakaway-ic5gj well that happens in NASCAR all the time, generations of cars are replaced by newer ones The problem really is that the next-gen cars shouldn't be tech-oriented.

[@VG-Motors]

I mean... it could be. but McQueen canonically is a "2006 Hand-built one of a kind race car". so, i guess modifications could be legal?

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@1earedwolf But Jackson Storm wasn't a racecar, he was modified for it right ?

[@seanimusprime9849]

@@1earedwolf …. Bill Elliotts 1988 Ford Thunderbird is by far the fastest car ever made to be in NASCAR, topping speeds of about 216 mph I think. The 2022 cars go at about 195 at best. Yes I know that’s because Of restrictor plates but that furthers the point of that it has nothing to do with being faster.

[@vanguardplays3418]

I think another reason why Lightning couldn't upgrade himself to be as fast as storm is because his organs have aged and they can't be replaced. In cars 3 they talk about how lighting isn't as fast as he use to be and that his reflexes are going I think that's to do with his organic parts getting older

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

Meanwhile in Cars 1: Sherrif being a 50 year old car,keeps up with McQueen who is a brand new racecar back then,SCP-973 vibes

[@khalidkhali4074]

@@KitKitChanIsaac McQueen was way far a head and he didn’t go on full speed

[@vanguardplays3418]

@CJ you need to remember though he's an athlete and most athletes retire around their early to mid 30s

[@otb.devonte4276]

@@vanguardplays3418 There’s still older athletes that can still beat the young cats. Like for example in the George Foreman movie in 2023. When George got older, yeah he retired at first then came back and beat this younger guy in boxing

[@protocetus499]

​@@vanguardplays3418 Ronaldo and Buffon still strong in their 40s

[@Loganjh1126]

Never in my life did I think I would be so Infatuated with Cars lore 💀

[@a_literal_brick]

I think getting an engine replaced would be like getting a heart transplant, so nobody is going to do it electively. But you're putting the Cars lore under WAY more scrutiny than it was meant to handle.

[@casidiablo665]

For starters, Jackson Storm took the optimal line and made use of slipstream to increase his speed. They say so in the movie. The moment Lightning McQueen learnt how to do that, he could perfectly keep up with Storm's pace.

[@ShUrIkEn2558]

If McQueen upgrade himself he will be definitely faster than Francesco

[@scoundrel8440]

I think the 2nd most logical reason is that we can't have a car faster than a Formula 1.

[@Rao_Sahab_7878]

@@scoundrel8440 Yo you F1 fanboi. They both were from TWO DIFFERENT SERIES: NASCAR and F1. YOU JUST CANT COMPARE THEM.

[@boomyoulookingforthis1362]

@@Rao_Sahab_7878 no. As a average Motorsports of all types enjoyer, I can confidently say a F1 car could leave a NASCAR in the dust. Way mor acceleration and downforce.

[@Rao_Sahab_7878]

@@boomyoulookingforthis1362 Yo man, NASCAR have been using restrictor plates for many years. If you remove them, then a stock car can easily leave an F1 car in the dust.

[@davidvasquez08]

Isn’t an INDYCAR faster than a F1 car in terms of top speed?

[@mikeiswhite3]

I'm 22. Don't think that much about Cars series daily. But I discovered this channel last week and it awoken the 7 year old in me. I've bindged probably half of your videos so far.

[@ryank2780]

I love how the cars anatomy in the Cars world is just one giant mystery

[@zacharykelley359]

This part irritated me, because I’m a car guy, you can take anything , modify it and make it faster. You can change the engine, put a newer engine in a old car, put a old engine in a new car even. It does change the cars personality though, but there’s no reason why he could not have gotten a newer engine.

[@otb.devonte4276]

Exactly that’s like a older sports car’s engine being upgraded with a more powerful engine matching the newer sport cars level. Like literally a 67 Shelby had been modified with a 2012 engine

[@XhoiZhuleku]

he got restored after his crash

[@animatoraoi3672]

1:57 ok I see why this was cut out

[@tehangrybird345]

My theory is that it’s against piston cup rules to upgrade an older car unprofessionally unless your a new racer, and if it was done professionally it would cost tons of money that most racers couldn’t afford and the team managers would rather hire new racers

[@gus2822]

I think it also comes down to stock car racing rules as well. The body issue is a good point, but in theory he could've added turbo/superchargers, nitrous, or a whole lot more other stuff to be faster. You see upgrades like that in Cars 2 with McMissile and Mater's upgrades, as well as the tuners in Cars 1. Only thing is in stock car racing none of that is allowed, so it wasn't an option.

[@prodigy-hu6dy]

Forced induction isn’t allowed in NASCAR, and other racers had their bodies changed between 1 and 3. The “whine” sound you hear probably isn’t a supercharger, you hear a sound similar to Jackson Storm on NASCAR cars today and it’s from straight-cut gears in the transmission. That’s probably why Storm has that distinctive sound. It could suggest an entirely different transmission setup for the next-gens that allow a higher top speed. Probably some sort of transaxle.

[@ThorEdits421]

I don’t think McQueen could’ve got upgraded because the other veterans were *REPLACED* So Because Of This He Couldn’t because He Would’ve Had To Retire And Then Some Other Next Gen Would Replaced Him

[@EMR100]

Fun fact: upgrades are possibe because in the beginning cruz her speed was 193 mph and when they entered thomasville cruz got an upgrade by guido that is how she was able to keep up with jackson storm and help mcqueen train

[@khymanser391]

Lightning mcqueen should get some upgrades maybe in cars 4 if it does come after cars on the road

[@mosesdevadass6056]

Cars 4 just seems very unnecessary.

[@TimeMasterOG]

@@Dan_R its called Monty is a stock car racer he isnt allowed to upgrade for nascar racing

[@eobardthawne324]

@@mosesdevadass6056 If Cars 3 ended with him winning then I could agree.

[@armadussteel2489]

Actually we should mention that he was given headlights between cars 1 and 2. Mater was also upgraded with boosters but meh. I'm more hung up on the headlights as McQueen is supposed to be a "modern" stock car meaning he probably doesn't have headlight mounts, holes for headlight assemblies, or any of the wiring for this stuff.

[@OnlyDianes]

3:45 That image of lightning gives me chills lol

[@alexandru18]

bab esfanji

[@dysnomnia]

The American spy in cars 2 said he was able to replace a whole engine block when he was being tortured.

[@casualdiscussionenjoyer3303]

That was the longest and most captivating four minutes of my life

[@Ridlay_]

Yeah I think it’d overall be a risky, difficult procedure when you go to upgrading past a certain point, where you’re replacing too much and it might fail. And to be fair Dusty had crashed, while repairing him they’d have to opportunity to upgrade him because he’s already in bad condition and the risk is therefore less of an issue.

[@Fireheart318]

I love super-deep dives like this that take stuff like the Engine Swap and IRL biology (hiccups/diaphragm) into account!

[@t-rexstudioproductions781]

Matpat: They’re not cars, They’re Insects, They had organs! Ned Wheeler: I’ve Debunked The theory that cars are chunks of metal Matpat: I SAID THEY’RE INSECTS!!!! Cars director: QUIET, QUIET!!!! Meanwhile: me: This is fine

[@SlurpyPie]

I actually thought that Celine Dephare had like a rare condition or something where maybe she was like a younger car that was transferred to an older car model and for some reason her organs or whatever you call them didn't shift to the top part of her car when developing and therefore got her eyes transferred to the headlights which now looking back is kinda terrifying to think about ngl

[@FixItStig]

The key to enjoy cars is not too think about their insides

[@andremckenzie9746]

1:23 they pulled some "Get Out" shit 😂

[@westreaper9681]

Thats as horrifying as Mater's voice

[@sallytheuselessbird]

It could also be to do with pride, im sure doc would have been way more happy about what happened in the actual film as opposed to an alternative ending where lightning pretty much buys his way into being fast enough.

[@CallMeMrX]

It's not pride, it's just a kids film.

[@52flyingbicycles]

That mostly makes sense. Most people don’t consider limbs or organs replaceable, but we do have complicated surgeries for transplants and prosthetic limbs. Replacing an engine might be like replacing their digestive system or heart. More harm than good barring extreme circumstances, but someone who’s committed their whole life to bio enhancement might view every part of their body as replaceable, even if it’s insane.

[@doord4sh]

in tokyo mater when mater was about to enter a drift race he was heavily modified

[@jdawg93]

Didn't realize I was a mega fan of Cars till I started binge watching these

[@fanofyoshi2238]

2:24 I'd also like to point out that they have gray parts blocking you from seeing anything inside.

[@LittleRedIrishRover]

Those are actually some great theories! Personally, I don't see how a major upgrade/body change would work in the Carsverse, since it would be physically impossible to body-swap cars. Even in Dusty's case, his body didn't get replaced (though I theorise that planes are easier to, for lack of a better word "customise"). I headcanon that it *is* possible for a car's engine to replaced, however it's an incredibly dangerous and risky procedure and thus only used to save their life (I've wondered if Miles might have been a victim of such a botched procedure). But of course, these are just my theories XD

[@douglasprobst5677]

How come?

[@EmmettDoyleDDR435]

2:04 If McQueen was screaming NO like that maybe he would've been waked up in the middle of the night of being left out alone in the dark at nighttime screaming about his body and part his life by Mater. 💀 Cars 3 was nice to myself and I thought to my head after I left the movie theaters I usually liked the 2nd film in the year 2011 all classic to myself.

[@parker-boy98]

3:21 The brain thing is kind of contradicted by the implication that their engines are their brains in the deleted scene. Also, in Cars 2, Otis' doors do briefly pop open when he tries to start up, so the doors DO open. And they can't have organs, the official artwork showing their clearly mechanical internal bits shown in the video proves that. Also, the Terminators are 100% machines, they're robots, not cyborgs.

[@eckso4237]

All great athletes have to retire at some point as they get too old for the competition. (Except for Zlatan Ibrahimović)

[@Nightmare_52]

i think mcqueen wanted to prove he still got it without upgrading to match storm, using only what he had instead of relying on modern technology

[@CallMeMrX]

He seemed pretty desperate to win by the end, when his entire career and sense of self was resting on one single race, I am quite sure at that point he would have upgraded rather than be forced to retire, especially when he didn't have the heart for it in the end. Besides, when he was racing against older generation cars like The King and Chick, he had a technological advantage, why didn't it bother him then?

[@etsezee]

I thought that the reason why McQueen can't modify his engine is because he's a stock car, and that rules of stock car racing is having the engine to be stock from factory. Did research and that was the case back then. If this makes sense, then McQueen's body design is based on production cars. Maybe lighten his chassis and frames like carbon fiber, but that I think would be gross for a kid's movie Also, since he's not racing anymore, maybe he could now upgrade himself if he wants to like a supercharger or a turbo.

[@ishitmypantsinacarwheniwas7]

yeah that made sense

[@ORionNo12]

idk if this theroy makes complete sense, considering there are some racers from cars 1 that returned in cars 3 and looked very different from the first movie. Like Murray Clutchburn, Ernie Gearson and Floyd Mulvihill. those three’s bodies seem to be completely overhauled, or they are brand new ones fresh from the factory. So either way that kinda breaks this theory for me. But like other people have said, I believe McQueen didn’t get an upgrade because it could be considered cheating or something. and personally I believe the “Brain inside the door things” isn’t true and that the car’s engine is the heart/brain. but hey That’s just me. So Maybe everything I said was nonsense.

[@1earedwolf]

The "brain inside the doors" thing was proven wrong in Cars 2, as there is a background character who has a completely visible interior.

[@BS23Designs]

Good point, I forgot about that. I don't know a lot about cars, but I assume that the chassis still fits for a swap for those 3 racers. While the next-gens have a completely different body type and chassis, so it's completely impossible to be upgraded and be a next-gen.

[@fatfalcon3434]

Are you sure that those you claim to have had their bodies overhauled weren't actually different cars being sponsored by the same company? I did some research and found out that some old gen racers did in fact retire or get fired by the companies they raced for once the new generation came along.

[@BS23Designs]

@@fatfalcon3434 They are the same characters. You can double check it through the die-cast toyline as well that a few of the names are the same, despite having different body shapes than before.

[@TimeMasterOG]

@@1earedwolf yes that one single car is an outlier thus every other car is the same... the people who made cars said that they have brains behind the doors

[@cnugg007]

The answer to all of your theories and questions is that the producers do not have complete answers to most of these questions, and even they are simply making stuff up on the fly and adding things in for comedic purposes, even if they contradict an existing piece of information. You can see this in SpongeBob all of the time.

[@jamiegioca9448]

Like how they make Patrick say he has no sister, only to make an episode about his now existing sister 10 years later

[@akshatverma7982]

In the last scene of cars 3 McQueen was racing head to head with cruise so that's not possible without an upgrade as cruise has beated Jackson storm 😅

[@klein2042]

Well yes, look at the tuners, they’re completely upgraded, no reason Lightning couldn’t do the same. Plus he could’ve used his setups from Cars 2 or Race O Rama

[@beastmode3172]

It is much more difficult than that. First, the tuners only had exterior upgrades, those being neon, spoilers, sideskirts, front lips, etc, and they might have had some engine tuning. Where as in Cars Race O Rama, it was McQueen's own race event, meaning he could make the rules and specifications to his liking. The reason why McQueen got a upgrade in Cars 2 was primarily to compete with the other WGP racers, and the WGP had rules and regulations, especially considering the fact most of the drivers in that race weren't in the same class. The reason why he didn't get a upgrade in Cars 3 was primarily because the setup he was running with was already doing well for him before Storm showed up, and he had no reason to upgrade it if it already had won him many races. Remind yourself, that the Piston Cup has rules and regulations regarding the cars, in the same vain that the WGP also had rules and regulations.

[@klein2042]

@@beastmode3172 Well no, they all had aftermarket exhausts, Boost had a Nitrous kit, and Snotrod was fully redesigned for that track build. And to hell with regulations, if storm can show up looking the way he does, so can Lightning.

[@beastmode3172]

@@klein2042 that still not easy. Remind yourself that the tuners can do whatever is possible with then their models because there's so many aftermarket parts for them. The difference with McQueen is that he's competing in a sport, a sport that has rules and regulations, and rules are obviously important, and that if McQueen goes beyond those points, it goes against his character as a whole. The entire Jackson Storm thing can literally be summed up in 2 words "Next Generation". If you look at the current NASCAR stock cars, you can see that they are called next generation, and that they are different than the previous generation. It's possibly the reason why many teams straight up fired, or forced the other stock cars to retire, and leave the sport, and it's the reason why teams wanted the new talent because there better than the previous generation, but the reason why McQueen didn't quit was obviously because he was a fan favorite, and that he just wanted to race and have fun, not pressured to be forced to retirement.

[@timothykauffman2442]

I think feasibility is also a possibility , that is to say if the engine is the only thing you can upgrade or replace . Then getting a different type of engine has a lot of complications. Airplanes such as crop dusters I little bit easier to work on because they can come apart in sections technically Dustys fuselage remain intact , The same could be said for Doc and lightning. Although mentioning this in the movie would have those in a few holes.

[@CGHawkatoo]

According to Matt Pat (The Film/Game Theorists), they are in a way similar to insects, with their bodies being like exoskeletons. However, the conclusion lies in the unification of varying theories; mine being that as they grow up, they'll take the form of a certain vehicle once they mature, sometimes missing a part or two, or even having some strange "mutations", like the one gal with eyes for headlights.

[@OnlyTypical0]

This doesnt explain why in Cars: Planes why they could almost upgrade if they wanted to, maybe even get a whole new engine at that.... almost

[@zuke857]

My issue with this is there is an in universe movie planes where the main character has most of his parts replaced to be faster

[@Kaidhicksii]

Considering all the other upgrades he did get throughout the series and that he didn't seem to have any problem with doing it, my guess is it's because of Piston Cup rules. Whatever it may be though, let us not forget that, in as early as Cars 1, his top speed was reported to be 220 mph.

[@ashpaoisme6673]

when was 220 mph been reported?

[@ttamcc.4674]

@@ashpaoisme6673 actually it was 200

[@Gogeta2501]

Guys he go up against wete. Tuned to grills like if they didnt do that crap. McQueen would destroy em

[@diecastreviews11]

I always used to think about this, but cars like Murray Clutchburn got a new body instead of using his older body, same goes with others like Ralph. If you look at the Nascar diecast line, we can see Mcqueen has the 2022 Next Gen NASCAR wheels (like the real life) so that means he got upgrades like the real new next gens by Nascar (my theory)

[@Vickyvee97]

And for you Red Dwarf fans out there the cars would be similar to G.E.L.F's (genetic engineered life form). In the novels they actually used gelf furniture and yes living vehicle's that's shaped like cars. You think servicing a normal car is expensive, try paying for the vet bills for gelf car when it runs over a nail?! O.o

[@ratheonhudson3311]

Also, remember when Mater introduced himself as "Teh Mater" and spat right at the camera? That means he has some faulty windscreen wiper piping. What makes him so adorable is those faults that we don't mind. McQueen wants to keeps his uniqueness there as well. Some things can't be replaced or upgraded. Not to forget, all cars have a built in limit to how hard an engine can rev and how fast. Piston strokes are limited, flame fronts can be outrun by the piston head in high speeds.

[@onespeedygamer4887]

So Unecessarily professional… I love it

[@warthog23]

In Cars 2, how come Lightning McQueen was able to keep up & be faster than Francesco Bernoulli; a 230+ Mph Formula 1 car, but not be faster than Jackson Storm? After watching Cars 3, and looking at Cars 2, Lightning was able to be faster & maintain the same speed than the other World Grand Prix racers. So maybe Lightning did get an upgrade in Cars 2, but the answer to it is still unknown.

[@cartermorel4275]

That's called inconsistency

[@torak_34]

Cars 2 he would be in his prime and have different modifications than he would in the Piston Cup due to different rules and regulations etc. He wouldn’t need to go 230 in oval races, and if he wanted to there is probably rules to stop things like that happening. Tbh there shouldn’t even be a way for him to keep up with Francesco but that’s my thoughts on it

[@warthog23]

@@torak_34 Ah, good point. His engine even sounded different from Cars 1 in Cars 2.

[@communist_amoeba3923]

Hell no, in cars 2, Francesco Bernoulli and McQueen were prominent in their own tracks. Lightning wasn't faster then Francesco. Francesco was faster on the hairpain and the asphalt, while Lightning was faster on the bridge and the dirt track. Cars 2 is totally justified

[@MasterPandaBearChannel]

cars 3 was like 40 years after

[@mikafu]

Just a theory of mine. Rusteze was probably already losing money due to the faster next gen racers, so doing an overhaul on McQueen would have been expensive and out of their reduced budget. So why not Sterling? I don't think a businessman like Sterling would throw in huge bucks on an old race car when he already has a few next generation racers. So that' probably why McQueen didn't get an overhaul. Since the cars are sentient living beings. I don't think it would have been advisable to upgrade a car just to match a newer generation. We have to understand that it is not just speed McQueen has to match. The speed is derived from the next generation's built in efficiency on the tracks etc etc. Even if they could perform an upgrade, it would have been hella expensive and then again, Sterling would rather spend said money on improving the standards of the already better next gen racers Also, I would like to state the importance of McQueen NOT winning in the final race and letting cruise do it. I feel it brings out an important message that everyone has his/her limits and should be realistic about it. I mean, Doc had his limits, but yet his legacy is still on going. I get it that many fans are mad simply because McQueen didn't win and that he should have because he is McQueen, but yet they overlook the point of the directors making McQueen passing on his legacy to Cruz in the first place.

[@caestusnoestus]

don't forget one thing, Sterling wanted McQueen out of the racing world so he would focus on merchandising, so is kinda obvious he didn't want McQueen to be upgraded at all, also the last theory about organs is kinda fake, in cars 2 is known that he actually got an upgrade

[@akshit6250]

What about those tuners? One of em looks like it got an engine swap( it has a bigger engine and a turbo charger as far as i remember). I think it's because McQueen is a stock car and there are rules preventing it from getting any mods( just an assumption) Great video tho

[@Firespirit-rk9ie]

Since McQueen was built for NASCAR, It's possible that McQueen has a Ristrictor plate in his engine which prevents him from going to a higher speed above 198 MPH. NASCAR Race cars have these Ristrictor plates to slow them down to only 191 MPH.

[@PanasheMungani]

I never thought that when I grow up I'll be watching Cars lore and lightning McQueen deepdives

[@dylandreisbach1986]

There is weird moral implications to trying to figure out where the car stops and the living creature begins. Are they morn with tires or are they like shoes? Does it hurt when a wing mirror or spoiler is taken off? They clearly need oxygen and gasoline to live, so can they suffocate themselves if they stay in an enclosed area for too long?

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

I assume tires are more like legs and feet altogether since they're literally immobile without wheels. So they're PROBABLY born without wheels. The question is, how do they transition as they age? Do they shed their "skin"? Do they just "grow"?

[@dylandreisbach1986]

@@Geheimnis-c2e Since they change their tires, I assume they are like shoes. So are they born with temporary shoes, or do they need to scoot around until they are the given shoes? Since they cannot move without shoes are they a universal right, or do people who can’t afford tires need to move around immobilized? Do they die if they run out of fuel, or do they just go into a hibernation until filled up? How many millions will die once they inevitably run out of fossil fuels? Somehow living cars is a large moral dilemma than living toys. At least we know that toys are manufactured and find sentience at some point. But we don’t even know if cars are born or manufactured.

[@asliceofcheese9989]

im not gonna even bother thinking about this, this is too cursed

[@jamiegioca9448]

@@Geheimnis-c2e Are they, though? Remember that one wheelless car in the Tokyo airport in Cars 2?

[@douglasprobst5677]

@@jamiegioca9448 what do you mean?

[@torak_34]

I love how people are debating and analysing this like it’s real life

[@jujublue4426]

They kinda forget that real life cars are not sentient

[@Mr.MacMan]

@@jujublue4426 I know right it’s cringe at its finest.

[@The_Dark_Master]

Cry