KEN ONION WORK SHARP GOOD & BAD REVIEW WITH BLADE GRINDER ATTACHMENT

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Neeves Knives

Neeves Knives

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@kenroman777
@kenroman777 4 жыл бұрын
@ Neeves Knives I have learned over 50 years that it is best when you are using a system to follow manufacturers directions and in this case reading the instructions you were sent in the packaging.
@curve5746
@curve5746 3 жыл бұрын
I caught that too.
@false-set
@false-set 2 жыл бұрын
The manufactures opinion is like every other opinion except written by lawyers.
@bigmikeg84
@bigmikeg84 Жыл бұрын
So far this is the best review I've found for this system. Thanks a ton for the info and advice.
@WorkSharpOutdoor
@WorkSharpOutdoor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jared - great review, we appreciate your thoughts!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Im making a new video, im not happy with how the first video came out and im going to take it down, i failed in using the tool correctly and its absolutely not excusable, i apologize about the first video and will absolutely re due it the way it shoulda been done from the beginning, i appreciate your kindness in wanting to work with us and i want to make it right. Thank you guys for being so awesome
@thomasrobarts2399
@thomasrobarts2399 Жыл бұрын
Instructions say low speed with 1 inch per second strokes and stop on the tip releasing the trigger on the system to stop the belt as not to round off the tip..plus there is a chart for which belts to use..i.e. heavy grit for re profile or medium to fine grit for touch up ,and hone..,but saying and doing are two very different things I plan on testing this system out as well.
@mauriciolee7349
@mauriciolee7349 Ай бұрын
Thank Jerad for this DETAILED & HONEST review of Ken Onion Work Sharp. I love it when you point out its disadvantage. That is it’s NOT able to sharpen the section of the edge that is next to the thumb stud. Right now, Nov. 4th, 2024, they are selling Ken Onion Sharpener Mk.2. It comes with the Blade Grinding Attachment 10° - 35°. According to you, it will solve this problem. We need MORE Reviewers Like You.
@derekwalker4740
@derekwalker4740 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, I have had this setup for years, just FYI... you don't need to take out the screws to remove the angle guide, it just pulls off. (It has notches/detents so it snaps into place,)
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah thank you i quickly learned that after, i appreciate you trying to help though, i have a long term video coming soon that will hopefully be better than the lasts
@thomasrobarts2399
@thomasrobarts2399 Жыл бұрын
Your freehand skills are on point! And some of the best I've seen.!👍
@joe_a_photo
@joe_a_photo 4 жыл бұрын
I have this system and I love it. It’s so quick. I’m not picky with having a perfect sharpening job. I would like to get into freehand one day and learn how to sharpen the way you do Jared. You are badass!! This system is great for quickly sharpening cheap kitchen knives. Some people complain about how difficult super steels are to sharpen and they spend like an hour on their fixed angle system. I’m not trying to spend an hour sharpening a knife.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
And thats awesome, not everyone wants to or can spend the time to sharpen and this makes easy work out of getting a sharp knife, usually it only takes an hor to sharpen what your reprofiling or taking out a massive chip, when your using the right stones 20-30 min can get you a fine edge, also the thickness of the knife makes a difference if its thin it's very quick. But i think the work sharp is a great system especially with the attachment
@jimglatthaar4053
@jimglatthaar4053 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great, informative video. What did you mean by "tape up the knife if you're worried about scratching it?"
@jasonmiller9495
@jasonmiller9495 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy a leather belt for the grindiner attachment. It works great for stripping. Slap compound on it put the machine on low rpm and it will polish the heck out of your blade. The more you use this machine the better you get
@REBELSCL
@REBELSCL Жыл бұрын
This may sound silly and I know I’ve never tried it before, but just how hard is it to take a thumb stud off then reinstall when finished?
@kellydiver
@kellydiver 3 жыл бұрын
The problems you’re having could have all been avoided by reading the instructions. Place the knife on the belt where you want the grind to start, turn on the machine, turn off the machine when your tip is at the mid-point of the belt. Just use your left hand to turn it on and off instead of using the trigger lock.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
This is an old video and ive done a couple videos talking about the mistakes i made
@hernant3864
@hernant3864 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ericfreutel8240
@ericfreutel8240 2 жыл бұрын
Using your left hand to turn off the machine? How inelegant. Think outside of the box. Purchase a foot operated (pedal) power switch$20~$30, all sorts of styles, on Amazon.😊😊
@ericfreutel8240
@ericfreutel8240 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, learned a lot! Many thanks 🙏🙏🙏😊😊
@1DRIPSTER
@1DRIPSTER Жыл бұрын
@Eric Freutel It's not a sewing machine ya know. 🤣
@josephchavez8280
@josephchavez8280 11 ай бұрын
I have the worksharp without the attachment, I just took the angle guide off and freehand all my knives. Got rid of any issue you described. Use a sharpie to determine factory edge angle boom done.
@2lbsTrigrPull
@2lbsTrigrPull 5 ай бұрын
4:10 the vibration is very low it doesn't move. - Turns it on it vibrates and moves... lol
@bardam830
@bardam830 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to remove the screws to remove the angle guide, that can be removed freely just pull it out
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bard appreciate the info
@NevadaScrubJay
@NevadaScrubJay 4 жыл бұрын
I just got mine and have been playing with moving the settings, etc... On the angle guide... Just pull up... Do not remove the two screws... It come right off and then will click back in place when you want to put it back...
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@Micscience
@Micscience 2 жыл бұрын
Did you profile the edge as well? or did you just sharpen the edge? If you did both then you did a good job. In my opinion a good sharp knife needs to do more than just cut through paper. It has to cut through paper with a good amount of ease to where you can hear the sound. It sounds different than other knifes and it is also able to cut in any direction such as curves into the paper without any hang ups.
@Catfishbait86
@Catfishbait86 Ай бұрын
Have you tried the mk2? I dont think any of thos issues were adressed. Basically the same thing.
@BadRonald1
@BadRonald1 2 жыл бұрын
I havent had mine not even a year. And its broken already. We took good care of it. But the plastic when you remove the assembly cassette right at the wheel that spins the sand paper . If you look at the plastic on there right where-the spinner attaches the sand paper assembly is cracked I don’t know how it happened but it doesn’t even work anymore. The motor is fine When the spindle spins but when you try to put the attachment back together it won’t stay on…..its loose cause of the black plastic is almost sheared off. Very dissapointed
@americanpatriot6918
@americanpatriot6918 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I got this for my thick bushcraft knives and axes! Especially my Tom Brown Tracker and the Skullcrusher! The work sharp Guided system with the upgrade stones will be what I get next month. So I can practice my hand sharpening skills too. Thanks for all the valuable information you share!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
👊
@elninomoon62
@elninomoon62 10 күн бұрын
I have to choose whether i buy this sharpener or a KME system. Please help me
@michaelschnitzer4054
@michaelschnitzer4054 2 ай бұрын
I have the Ken onion edition and love it. I do some broadheads on it lots of different knives and hatchets and axes. The con exes edge holds up really well. It’s fast too which is the main reason I got it.
@badkatrising3918
@badkatrising3918 Жыл бұрын
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@Rendo87
@Rendo87 3 жыл бұрын
What is the knife you are holding at 25:25? It looks amazing.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Rassenti snafu 2.0
@Rendo87
@Rendo87 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Thanks!!
@Rottidog68
@Rottidog68 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! One major issue I had with the KO were uneven bevels. I've spoken to another owner & he was surprised when I pointed out that the guides & belt leave a taller bevel on one side than the other. I ficked & fuddled around with it a lot to see if it was me... nope. He and many others have that issue.
@justinmurray4652
@justinmurray4652 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that to.Youd think that wouldn't be an issue for what they cost
@inchley
@inchley 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can do a serrated knife on this sharpener? Like a bread knife? I’d love to see you show some advice on that.
@dyrestraiz8648
@dyrestraiz8648 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the Ken Onion attachment is neat, but I seriously need to adapt to the freehand game. I've been stuck on a Lan sky, never got out of it. Any tips?
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell you unless you are sharpening small knives go for bigger stones. I got a 2x5 diamond stone and it's a pain to use on anything but folders.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, first thing check out my sharpening tips and videos in my play list, also worksharp has some really cool diamond stones with guides that could seriously help even that little one i just reviewed is awesome
@gblan
@gblan 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing at all wrong with Lansky. No great reason to "get out of it."
@gblan
@gblan 2 жыл бұрын
So you place the knife on this "guide" thing and then you remove it and place it on top of the belt. Angle doesn't change at all does it, ever?
@_BigLife_
@_BigLife_ 3 жыл бұрын
Got one of these a few years ago as a gift. I had always used a Lansky. I did mess up a few tips and have not used it again. I will be getting the other attachment. Thanks for the video.
@mattpaisley8706
@mattpaisley8706 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been sharpening on belt sanders for years and this machine with the belt grinder attachment is still my go to. I’m practicing more and more with stones but man it’s really easy for me to just say f-it and go to this machine. Plus u can get 1x18 3M trizact belts so yeah.
@Grabthembypussycat
@Grabthembypussycat Жыл бұрын
I would make an update on the video just a text or something saying that the guide slides off instead of unscrewing those two screws because anyone you to use in the sharpener are going to think That you have to unscrew those when in fact you don’t it just lslides off
@russcagle6965
@russcagle6965 4 жыл бұрын
Every tool has its use. The key is always the right tool for the job. This is definitely one for the tool belt! Good vid sir! ✌️
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Great for tools and kitchen knives machete, fixed blades, even pocket knives with the attachment
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 4 жыл бұрын
DUUUUUUDE......You are a sharpening MANIAC..AC...AC! It’s great that you honestly discussed your bias/preference and then got into a very fair assessment. Nice approach!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob b
@BCJerbs
@BCJerbs 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely smashed the review bruv!
@dbnoho
@dbnoho 2 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering how well I can sharpen chisels and plane irons with the attachment.
@carlpavey7167
@carlpavey7167 3 жыл бұрын
I just got 1 and I cannot sharpen a knife with it. I like my knives razor sharp not sure what I’m doing wrong.
@christinenorriss9675
@christinenorriss9675 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could grind primary bevels with the attachment? I've watched a lot of videos about this unit now, nobody seems to cover this area, their marketing ploy suggests that this is a machine knifemakers could use, Would be interested to know your thoughts as I"ve just purchased the base model but can now see that the attachment is kind of a neccessity.. Cheers from Mike, Waikato, New Zealand..
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you absolutely can, they also have even coarser belts you can get to make work even easier
@curve5746
@curve5746 3 жыл бұрын
I have with good results
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 2 жыл бұрын
is this the best system for convex? my bark rivers need some love, and I can't freehand for the life of humanity...
@Enigma.and.Shadows
@Enigma.and.Shadows 3 жыл бұрын
You keep saying static is picking up the shavings. I would think that the static could easily be discharged. Is it possible the moving shavings still on the belt are aligning the magnetic poles of the iron within the knife turning it into a slight magnet? I'm not sure that made sense, but I hope you get what I'm saying. Cheers.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
It's very possible, and using a dryer sheet will help
@BlindDude
@BlindDude Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for this video. Its very well done. Question, I have the ken onion thing withouth the larger belt attachment. On the larger sharpener the 90 degree side looks like it has a flat back? So you can get a V or Convex with that unit?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
If you can keep the belt very tight you can get closer to a v grind but it will most likely always be slightly convexed
@BlindDude
@BlindDude Жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives ty for the reply. Is there a back plate on that 90 degree part?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
@@BlindDude theres an open area that i use on the back side that runs up and down
@BlindDude
@BlindDude Жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Im sorry, I guess I couldnt explain what I meant very well at all.. I watched more of your video and I see the attachment sitting there without the belt and I can see now that it DOES have a backing for the belt to hit on the 90 degree part. 42:00 Thanks Edit.. I also see a little platform at the 90 degree part.. Can you tell me this? Will a magnet stick to it or would I be able to slide my angle magnets along it? Ah crap, I'm ordering it.. I have gotten really really good at the Work Sharp Ken Onion without the attachment.. Cant wait. One more thing.. If you ever use the onion without the attachment, dont drop your blades into it while its running. You prolly already got some gouge from it. Instead, place the blade into the jig, then start it up and pull through.. Also stopping the belt before the tip reaches the half way part is best. Te be even more careful, try to make sure you keep the angle of the blade "Horrizontally" with the belt. You know how the tip sweeps? Followe the sweep as close as you can
@TheMobster450
@TheMobster450 2 жыл бұрын
HELP!! So I’m using the grinding attachment and once I get to the belts past the 120 the edge ends up not being shaving sharp at all. I see the wire edge and everything but it just does not cut as well a I would like !
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 2 жыл бұрын
Did that real large knife have a scandy and then a secondary bevel?
@one-of-us9939
@one-of-us9939 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you actually have used this sharpener. I own one for my kitchen, and Spyderco knives. It has the limitations you spoke about, but it also makes scary sharp edges. I special ordered a stropping bat...😇👍
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I just recently ordered a new strop from viking and its decent, but the leather i got from badger leathers was real nice and very affordable
@one-of-us9939
@one-of-us9939 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives thanks my brother.
@fldiverjc4496
@fldiverjc4496 4 жыл бұрын
Having used both parts of the Ken onion edition....I can say that your method for the blade grinding attachment was spot on...but you were way off with the standard attachment. First off you are supposed to place the knife in guide them power and pull as soon as you trigger.....if not after several sharpenings you will begin to develop a recurve...secondly you are not supposed to pull the blade fully through...you learned the hard way by rounding your tips....had you fully read the provided materials this would have been avoided. All in all it was a very good presentation on what I consider a very versatile system. I'm not saying it's the end all be all....but it's a very handy tool in ones sharpening arsenal.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, also i didnt have an issue with recurving the knife but i definitely learned the hard way with the tip, however the attachment makes it very easy and its a great system for many tools and blades, my biggest issue with the basic guided system was getting to the choil, which was only possible when not using the guides, I appreciate you watching and giving some feedback
@fldiverjc4496
@fldiverjc4496 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives your very welcome. I like the content so I subbed. We are a small tight knit community.....if we can't help each other what's the point. For the record, I was able to make the critique because I learned the hard way....in typical guy fashion....instructions...who reads instructions....lol Then I learned. There are so many that bash this system....if they can only take off the blinders...they can see a very useful tool. There are pros and cons to every system....some are great at a certain thing, and not so much in other areas. I once told the owner of a very popular system that I look at it this way....they are tools...it's better to have a tool and not always use it, then to need said specific tool for a job and not have it.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@fldiverjc4496 what you said is so important and is what makes this community great, and also sometimes can be the down fall, and that is what i said to many people is that with every systems you can have issues or do damage, theres always a learning curve, hey bud if your able to we are going live in 30 min 730 our time if you can or want to, come through right here on the channel live we talk to everyone and its usually a good time
@fldiverjc4496
@fldiverjc4496 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives what time zone
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@fldiverjc4496 central in 6 min
@thomasrobarts2399
@thomasrobarts2399 Жыл бұрын
I am curious how did it do sharpening d2?
@Al-ds3sw
@Al-ds3sw Жыл бұрын
That guy that you were talking about removing two screws to remove the guide. All you have to do is pull with a little force. It’s a tight fit, but it does not have to be unscrewed.
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned the Ken Onion grinder knife sharpened for many years and I think it is garbage so just recently I purchased the grinder attachment and I'm waiting for it to arrive.
@StitchJones
@StitchJones 10 ай бұрын
This video was so helpful. Thank you!
@Antimatter.
@Antimatter. 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , been watching your vids and really enjoy your content, subbed! I was wondering on knife angles ? It seems you use 20 degrees for all your knives , does it matter on pocket knives and kitchen knives ?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I actually do 17° on most of my knives, my folders are mostly all freehand sharpened. But between folders and kitchen, it does a n d doesn't, depending on what it's being used for, for instance a chopper I'd go with 20° but a good chef knife I'd go 17 or 15, but if I know IL be tough on it then between 17 and 20, if it's steak knives I'd keep it around 17 per side, but it just depends
@Antimatter.
@Antimatter. 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Awesome thanks for the explanation, that gives me a good reference, I’m somewhat a noob at sharpening , might be a good vid for you one day , Sharpening at what angle and why
@TheArter84
@TheArter84 Жыл бұрын
You know you can remove thumb studs
@Antonio-Lucius-Giovanni
@Antonio-Lucius-Giovanni 2 жыл бұрын
The lifespan of the electric motor is not mentioned. I've been searching on Google. I've watched all the reviews on KZbin. I know on the other models the lifespan is only 30 hours wich is ridiculous in my opinion. I am working in a electric motors factory and our motors are coming back after few years just to repaint them. I just ordered this model on amazon and I hope for the best. Thanks for review.
@JesseAdams
@JesseAdams 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't used the stock attachment with the guides in a couple years that I've had the grinder but I think I remember just pulling hard up on those guides and they come right off without taking out those screws. I'll have to try it when I get home.
@JesseAdams
@JesseAdams 4 жыл бұрын
I pulled the regular KO guide attachment out and I was correct, it clicks kinda hard onto the 3rd screw below the 2 you pointed out. Just put your thumb on the top roller and pull up.
@_1_271
@_1_271 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to shorten the guides to allow sharpening closer to the choil?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
no but you can take off the guides
@dumpbear0
@dumpbear0 4 жыл бұрын
No disrespect but read the instructions. The problems you had would have been avoided.
@erickyanez6297
@erickyanez6297 4 жыл бұрын
It's pathological. I'm sure it happens (or will happen) to most of us in any of our life endeavors...
@7overland514
@7overland514 9 ай бұрын
He clearly can’t read
@tommyboy8341
@tommyboy8341 11 ай бұрын
So I have a field sharpener it works good cuts paper but it won't take hair off why is that?
@carlpavey7167
@carlpavey7167 3 жыл бұрын
What is the yellow slider dial on side of it for?
@JoeSteel1
@JoeSteel1 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed...good video do you recommend the full system on long blades...swords...Katana as that is my collection per my channel...I find it difficult to keep the same angle when I finally get to the point...29" blade...do you have any recommendations as how to use this properly with a long blade? 😊 thanks
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I would definitely use the grinder attachment, the same way i did would work great
@danmancastro
@danmancastro 5 ай бұрын
Do you need the grinder attachment if you buy the Ken Onion Elite Tool Sharpener?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 5 ай бұрын
yes yes yes i dont know anyone who doesnt prefer it over without
@EricsWormPlayground
@EricsWormPlayground Ай бұрын
I think the elite ken onion comes with the attachment. It’s what makes it elite and an extra $100 as compared to the non elite base model.
@nicholasraymond352
@nicholasraymond352 Жыл бұрын
What setup do you recommend to someone starting out with no experience looking to sharpener as a side hustle ?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
If your trying to take it seriously then a tsprof kadet pro, if your on a budget then the KME
@nicholasraymond352
@nicholasraymond352 Жыл бұрын
@Neeves Knives awesome 👌. I imagine it wouldnt hurt too also have the precision swing as well! As I don't have any free hand experience. Thanks for your response 👍
@josh33025
@josh33025 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this for blade reprofiling but I'll just get the ws precision adjust elite and just spend a little more time on the edge. I just don't like the possibility of rounded edges.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
This works great for larger blades, or for chip removal, blade grinding exc.. I use it often along side freehand Sharpening and fixed angle system Sharpening
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 Жыл бұрын
Both of these are good but the new attachment is just brilliant. 👍🇬🇧
@shawnbenford9460
@shawnbenford9460 3 жыл бұрын
What is the green knife at 20:50?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
That is the honey badger it comes in a small medium and large version and different blade shapes
@davidlagarde8470
@davidlagarde8470 3 ай бұрын
I just finished sharpening some of my knives and all take hair off my arm. I wish I had purchased the model that locks the angle but only because I am forgetful and forgot to check during my first use and when changing a belt I moved the angle and didn’t notice right away….oops…. Great system for great price.
@barrybaldwin5535
@barrybaldwin5535 4 жыл бұрын
Is that static electricity attracting ferrous dust, or it the blade becoming magnetized?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont know possibly both
@rayhill7613
@rayhill7613 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a sharpener I can use to set the angle then use my Mitsumoto Sakari sharpening stone to finish. I'm a professional chef that need to keep my 50 + year old carbon steel sharp. The group I use regularly are my Japanese sushi, veg knifes and my carbon steel American knifes are valued at $3500.00 for the set. The last thing I need is brunt or a bur edge left by most power tools on one of my 500 dollar beveled edge nakiri or Yanagiba. I might give this a shot for my cheaper stainless henckels and wusthof knives you can buy today first. The only thing I didn't like is you are distorting the belt as you pull through and this would round the angle over dulling it.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to go very professional then the TS PROF Blitz is a great and superior option, this system imo is great for fixed blades, axes machetes, exc.. and the edges are good, they don't burn the edges, but for very professional edges, watch my TS PROF Blitz video. Andis you really want to learn Sharpening sign up for Mt membership program I'm teaching professional Sharpening from freehand to fixed angled exc..
@venanzioandreozzi5476
@venanzioandreozzi5476 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the video. One question, are the 20 ° you set per side or in total? Thanks
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Each side is 20° I have another video coming very soon on this device now that ive had umit so long
@ed2335
@ed2335 6 ай бұрын
It looks like this system still scratches the heck out of the blades on sides. Just like the older ones. Do you agree?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 6 ай бұрын
well this is not the brand new version however i do have a video coming very soon
@RazorSharpMuenchen
@RazorSharpMuenchen Жыл бұрын
With the 3d printed riser its an awesome device!
@coltenparis8464
@coltenparis8464 4 жыл бұрын
The guide actually pops off no removal of screws
@fathersonsurvival
@fathersonsurvival 3 жыл бұрын
Man what buck is that ? It’s got such a nice profile
@DrummerPunked
@DrummerPunked 3 жыл бұрын
By not getting the back of a knife is that bad ? I don’t tend to use the back of my knife when I cut
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
The first part of your edge
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 4 жыл бұрын
..re - pulling out - seems to be good advice on a lot of things in life...
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Ncaruthersx1
@Ncaruthersx1 11 ай бұрын
How would this work for an S90/M390 Steel?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't doit unless it's a very large fixed blade, you want to use diamond on those steels
@jpolhamus71
@jpolhamus71 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the best system to sharpen a knife like a norseman?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think freehand, if your going to doit the way it should be then its two different kinds, its a convex on the tip and a v grind on the hollowed portion, but if your just trying to get it sharp and looking for a system the probably a kme but i reccomend sending it to a professional that knows how to sharpen knives like that, if your not worried about the front end being convexed and are ok with it being a vgrind then the kme will work fine
@jpolhamus71
@jpolhamus71 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives thank you for the info very helpful
@payitforward81152
@payitforward81152 2 ай бұрын
Very helpful Thanks.
@MrHyde-NY
@MrHyde-NY 3 жыл бұрын
The part near the choil is a problem. However, in regards to the tip. You place the blade first, then you start the belt. You pull back about 1 inch per second. Then you stop pulling when the tip is halfway through belt, and stop the belt. Dont remove the blade, stop the belt with tip halfway and you will always have a nice tip. Once belt is stopped then you can of course take the blade out for the next pass.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thank yiu, I mostly use the belt grinder attachment but I did get better at the tips after realizing I was doing it wrong I appreciate you watching and adding some advice
@MrHyde-NY
@MrHyde-NY 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives i just ordered the attachment. Seems much better. Never knew they had it till I saw your video, so thank you!
@icebear4849
@icebear4849 Жыл бұрын
I do pretty well with the angle guide, mainly because I bought belts that don’t come with like an 80 grit and a 12000 grit
@jeremyspaulding7735
@jeremyspaulding7735 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! Definitely nice for a quick sharpening would also be nice to go thru and do all the kitchen knives at once. Great review 👍
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely you could do all your fixed blades and kitchen knives in an hour, and im saying that without knowing how many you have because it makes for fast results, and im getting better and better with the machine and my results are fantastic, im definitely going to make an update video in a month or so
@mrblauer1
@mrblauer1 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this system, without the attachment, to quickly sharpen the cheap, multitools and other knife like objects I get when buying used knives in bulk. I am not happy with it for the reasons you identified.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
The attachment does help but also you can use the best from the reg system the same way and it can work great im going to end up doing another video on the system after a little bit
@Grabthembypussycat
@Grabthembypussycat Жыл бұрын
I like you in a non homo way you seem like a genuine dude love the vids and you ehhhhh just effing around but yeah love the vids man keep em coming no homo
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 3 жыл бұрын
If the Blade Grinding Attachment had a belt backer that could be raised and lowered in between the top two idler pulleys one could grind vee or convex.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do kinda wish I could do that for a flat v grind, there's some tricks to making it happen
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives … they do have the stiff belts which do deliver a flatter more V edge but it is still somewhat convex. For quality EDC folders I only use this to profile or work out chips, then go to the Precision Sharpener. Otherwise it takes all day. I wish I had your free-hand ability. I do sharpen kitchen knives on this. Fillet plus other working knives I sharpen freehand on dia-sharp plates. Be it a boat, fishing or hunting equipment, there is no perfect tool that will do everything.
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives also,.. if you use the stiff belts an grind very close to the idler you receive the flattest V grind.
@nospam3409
@nospam3409 3 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, the process doesn't create a static charge. It puts a slight magnetic charge on the blade. I know it's splitting hairs, but this is knife sharpening so splitting hairs is what we do ;)
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 3 жыл бұрын
With the blade grinder attachment if you use an Allen key you can move the back wheel to the hole that is just in front of back wheel This will make it a little firmer in sharping area. I did that and Reprofiled one of my knives to 22.5 degrees with firm belt set. It made it much easier to do. I shaved some hair and a little bit of skin on my arm to test sharpness. I will be keep back wheel now it it’s new position.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert! Now that ive had this a little while im going to do an update on it and fix a few things that i said or did wrong, and i think it will be a better video
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives . I have to thank worksharp for video they did which showed back wheel could be moved closer so less give in sharpening area between the two wheels,
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives . I reprofiled another blade to 22.5 degrees with the firm belts and then used cloth stropping belts to hone and then polish. Biggest difference with back wheel moved to one position higher is you get edge similar to if you sharpened on stone, flat edge. I like how I can now see edge very well and it is very shiny. Edge cleanly saved hair off my forearm. I now have bald area there.
@GG-ml3vr
@GG-ml3vr 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertdewalt8711 Is the allen bolt in the centre of the roller,im just not seeing it👍
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 3 жыл бұрын
@@GG-ml3vr . Yes it the Center of roller. Look closely at screw head which is black in colour, requires Allen key to remove screw. Then you can screw it back into hole closer so that both rollers much closer.
@andrewlasure7828
@andrewlasure7828 4 жыл бұрын
Very good review. I’ve looked over this unit forever but ultimately just keep free hand sharpening. I’m definitely with ya on the attachment being essential if going this direction. Would love to play with one a while to see how it feels
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Work sharp has a bunch of cool freehand stuff also that i didnt even know about and a little guided one coming in two weeks that looks promising
@andrewlasure7828
@andrewlasure7828 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives yeah, the new guided system looks very promising. Especially for those that want a system like that but can’t afford an edge pro or something similar. I can see them coming out with more grits / stones & strop accessories for that one also
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlasure7828 the one work sharp has coming is 60$ and it looks pretty good
@TTT-du6oj
@TTT-du6oj 11 ай бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Awesome channel on all things related to knife sharpening.I Love free hand sharpening and finishing and maintaining with the spyderco sharpmaker but there are definitely times when a nice clamp system or a sharpener like this can be a better option,subscribed 👍
@normb28
@normb28 3 жыл бұрын
what belt dose the BLADE GRINDER ATTACHMENT use?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
1" ×18" 👍
@qaszim2012
@qaszim2012 4 жыл бұрын
With what I have seen you are supposed to press the on trigger when the knife is placed in and then off when the knife tip is in the middle of the belt, this stops any chance of side scratching and helps the whole sharpening, I'm no expert just what i have seen in other material about this sharpener, Great video though, Thank you
@Bluemax54
@Bluemax54 Жыл бұрын
How is it with swords?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
Good but it's going to rely on your ability to hold the blade stable
@MrBikboi
@MrBikboi 2 жыл бұрын
There isn't any good reason why someone who isn't old or imparied couldn't freehand sharpen imo. The only reason I got this was because of the elite attachment otherwise I'd have zero interest. Super handy for reprofiling and grinding blades if I don't want to whip out the choseras. I'd like to get a professional belt grinder one of these days.
@miked6367
@miked6367 2 жыл бұрын
This machine can produce perfect results. Anyone who complains about things like rounded edges or anything like that, just hasn't learnt how to use it. 100% user error.
@ICheat_ILie_ISteal
@ICheat_ILie_ISteal 4 жыл бұрын
That attachment is over price... $70-$100 for a $25-$30 attachment all because the name *ken onion* is slap on it. In reality you are paying a extra 40-70 for ken onion name.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that seems to happen
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 4 жыл бұрын
After your last vid I google this thing, I will stick with my other benchtop belt grinders. I do thank you for waking me up to this but it for what it is can be done cheaper and more efficient with other things IMO. Thx again Homie I enjoyed the info.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Theres deals all the time on it but if you already have something but it is a great system for lots of tools knives blades exc..
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives right now I only have a 1x30, 5x36-6, and many assorted sized bench-grinders/polishers, I used to have a larger selection. I been wanting to try a 2x42 at the small end maybe a 60. But then it gets expensive fast even if building your own.
@vicreaves3077
@vicreaves3077 3 жыл бұрын
I think this system comes into its own for people like myself that don’t have the space to have a belt grinder set up. I can use this in my kitchen quickly when I need to and store it away no problem.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicreaves3077 definitely! Its a great system that is crazy useful, ive got more videos coming soon, from kitchen knife sharpening to blade regrinding exc..
@kevina4674
@kevina4674 3 жыл бұрын
Just grab the guide and pull up it comes right off
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I know i figured that out after having it a while ive done a couple videos since
@brandonfeland4723
@brandonfeland4723 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the setup, but have yet to find a video as decryptive as this one, that includes: mower blades. I like the note on the beveled edges. As mower blades have them as well. (though most people grind them flat like your "V" example..) If you could make an in-depth review on mower blades, that'd be great. And would probably score you lots of more views. Maybe with a mower blade that's beaten, and nicked, being restored on it. Along with one that's just ready for its first sharpening after use. (just dull..) As I find, a lot of people tend to have a hard time keeping, not only the 30° angle when sharpening them, but also keeping the factory beveled edge. While doing so. And IMPORTANT NOTE, for EVERYONE: STOP presharpening your mower blades before install, after buying them new.. Please. Waste of time, and money.. Mower blades come presharpened. The "blades" are painted black (or colour of blade), so you DON'T cut yourself on the way home with it. Just install, and let mower run for couple minutes. The rpms of the blade turning in the grass, will take the paint right off for you. 👍 Thanks. And good video regardless.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
👊 I almost did a lawn mower blade video a while back I will Definitely keep that in mind
@Aviation_Professional
@Aviation_Professional Жыл бұрын
These grinders seem to resolve the burr issues without even stropping! That burr drives me nuts as a beginner doing it free hand. It's a LOVE - HATE relationship! lol
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
try doing edge trailing passes to remove the burr with no pressure at all, you should check out my freehand videos they have a lot of great info, i also have a membership were going live on sunday if you want to join
@Aviation_Professional
@Aviation_Professional Жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives appreciate it. Thank you
@chadwik4000
@chadwik4000 2 жыл бұрын
13:15 Yeah, it's in the instruction manual bruh
@babyreps365
@babyreps365 3 жыл бұрын
This is the lee load all 2 of knife making lol I want one a few cold steels will be modified soon
@thefactor6909
@thefactor6909 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial and review ! If I may add on nicer knives I’ll put a strip of painters tape on the flats so you don’t get residue scratch’s from sandpaper on the flats when pulling the blade threw against the guides. I prefer my edge pro but for a working knife the Ken onion is fast and good.. I like the attachment option I might have to give it a try. Thanks again for another outstanding video 👊🏻👍🏻
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i thought i mentioned that about tape if its a knife your worried about you can always tape it, i should of made that clearer, but the attachment imo is fantastic and makes easy work, and its great for a lot of different jobs including Sharpening knives
@thefactor6909
@thefactor6909 4 жыл бұрын
No that was my bad I actually was watching it at work on my lunch and didn’t get to finish the whole video yet . My apologies 👍🏻
@jopainting1668
@jopainting1668 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by "toothy edge".
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
A toothy edge is a lower grit edge, or an edge with lots of bite
@QBlackDeathQ
@QBlackDeathQ Жыл бұрын
Sharpening the tip is what gets me
@o-whata-knife3119
@o-whata-knife3119 4 жыл бұрын
I like this mini system of belt sharpening iI to prefer the grinder attachment
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely although you can always freehand on the regular system
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