NETFLIX'S LOVE IS BLIND 6... This show is falling apart (EPISODES 7-9 PLUS TEA!!) | KennieJD

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[@vvotchme1576]

natalie nunn is really expanding her portfolio

[@stephaniehaynes8609]

(On the part about birth control) I took 4 dif kinds of hormonal birth control between the ages of 19 and 27 to combat acne and control periods. I had my first pulmonary embolism at 27 and stopped. It was definitely a doozy, for sure, and took a while to recover from. I had two more at 30 (face broke out and I decided maybe bc for a few weeks and like 2 weeks later, my lungs said bitch, you testing us?) and that one was definitely on me. Last one was at 34, and the doctors were unsure, but figured it was a residual clot and now I'm on daily blood thinners. I won't ever tell anyone to not take birth control, you do you. Just do thorough research on different types before starting. That said - if AD don't take her fix-a-nig ass on away from Clay! Bro red flags couldn't be any brighter!!!

[@Carolina57685]

You probably don't know this but HelloFresh treats their workers like shit and they do their best to shut down any union organizing. They're not a good brand to get sponsored by!

[@justwatchingvideosLA]

Please watch Bo Is Afraid. It's the craziest movie you'll ever seen gurl

[@ms.sibiya]

Kennie please do a review on The Faculty, I"M BEGGING!! Lord knows I've watched it a million times and I'd still watch a review by you! 🥹

[@misharotter7933]

“he’s fightin demons n it’s monogamy” has me rolling omfg

[@adamautumn2329]

I saw this on Justice Judy: a man that says this also says he’s “monogamously challenged”

[@RehemaNjambi]

😂 killed me 😂

[@3s_muycar0]

This sounds great on a mug and/or tshirt 🌝✨

[@ev3t175]

Fr any man that says he’s fighting demons I run coz why are demons tryna kill you… who sent them and why are you with me if you have them still😂😂😂😂

[@LaurenJewel]

I swear

[@MochaxMatcha]

"I've never seen a relationship where the husband has stayed faithful. Especially a black man." .....YOU DONT NEED AN EXAMPLE, YOU JUST DONT CHEAT ON YOUR WIFE!!!

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

Be your own example ffs 🙄 childish mentality

[@_cl0ud9ne]

That made me want to rip my skin off bro

[@destrious8133]

But how else would he know not to do that? This is clearly not his fault actually he's DAMAGED

[@eternityriley1833]

Right! It doesn't happen on accident

[@plusa6829]

@@destrious8133so, with cheating… can you say the same with sexual predators? “Oh, they don’t know any better😢” 🥱🤔

[@squeezie_b8895]

Men like that don’t want ethical non-monogamy - they want a woman who is faithful to them and also be allowed to cheat on her.

[@maliciamimi2165]

Thank you ! Was just about to say that !

[@Tink00]

Exactly!

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Truth

[@denishalewatts2624]

Men like him definitely can't seem to grasp the ethical part

[@kweenleo2265]

not just faithful, but someone who has literally no other option

[@candysays100]

If my boyfriend woke me up at one in the morning by TURNING THE LIGHTS ON when I was DEAD ASLEEP and tried to kiss me, and then got pissy at me for not being affectionate on demand? The way he turned that around on her was criminal, I'm sorry

[@craigbutler3282]

Im sorry but if ANYONE, did that to me it would have gotten violent. Literally no one is fully aware of their surroundings when they wake up. Doing that just triggers a fight or flight response.

[@candysays100]

@@craigbutler3282 right?? It's the middle of the night, I'm asleep, and you turn the lights on?? My eyeballs are tingling in sympathy for this lass x

[@sweetie_babie]

And she had to get up that day at 5 am! I'm telling you, he would not have made it through that conversation with me without being physically HARMED! The audacity to manipulate her and turn things around on her like she doesn't care? Just playing in her face

[@lexirodriguez6195]

The way he talked to her was so gaslightey, and it was so clear to me that he was looking for an out with her since he had that talk with AD and he took the first opportunity he could to say “this isn’t working” and left. I feel so bad for her cause she seemed so sweet and loving and did not deserve that at all

[@jyothilakshmij800]

Please dont apologize. That was just unbelievable.

[@TheSkyHazCloudz]

Clay talks about cheating as if a demon might some day possess him and force him to cheat on AD against his will.

[@-mokerly-5984]

"I swear, the Cheating Demon carried me in her warm cradling arms straight into the arms of this other woman. There was nothing I could do."

[@bethanychatman9531]

That's how a lot of "Christians" scapegoat responsibility.

[@scarletkittyeyes]

his ancestors coming thru at the worst moments

[@winterbelle708]

@@bethanychatman9531 ate

[@alexciss]

Yes 😂

[@Arcanine1995]

ugh I do not like Clay at all, he was basically forewarning AD that he's gonna cheat on her cause his Dad's a cheater, as if it's some hereditary trait lol

[@hadrianhexe9603]

Sad thing is, i get where he's coming from in the aspect of 'if everyone is something, what is to stop me from being something.' But it's the fact that it's coming out of the mouth of a man who has major cheater energy, it feels less like genuine fear and more like, as you said, him prepping her for bullshit.

[@shaniceokubena4975]

Some studies suggest it is hereditary lmao 😂😂

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

Right? And when he eventually does he will flip it on her, saying well I warned you and you chose to stay! Or if by some miracle he doesn’t, he should be rewarded and praised because he fought his demons and against biology (his genes looool and manly urges) and managed to resist cheating, he chose the right woman and he knew she was worth not cheating on. That man is weird. At 30.

[@rgs8970]

If he "knows" he's going to cheat or doesn't know how he will "prevent" himself from cheating, then he is not ready to be in a monogamous relationship. He needs to work stuff out with a therapist, a mentor, a community, himself, all of the above, before he tries it in relationship with someone else.

[@chelsjones]

@@shaniceokubena4975i feel like that’s more nurture than nature tho. like if you’ve seen cheating you’re more likely to consider doing it.

[@jennie3276]

Poor AD had to choose between Matthew the serial killer and Clay the serial cheater

[@reaboti3588]

Think of the bright side! She's only gonna get cheated on, not murdered !! 🎉🥰🎉✨️😁👏👏

[@emilyau8023]

That's not fair to call Matthew

[@vcgomeez]

@@emilyau8023well that’s the energy he gives soooooooo..😂

[@annewithnoe]

its called sarcasm babes. but not fr dw i dont think theyre actually accusing him of being a serial killer, its more like you know how sometimes you can feel unsafe around some people? That's Matthew@@emilyau8023

[@portobeIIa]

Clay blaming his father for him eventually cheating on AD has the same enegy as Mildred blaming being a domestic abuser on being latina

[@andiman44]

I forgot about Mildred’s toxic ass. The excuses people come up with are almost funny in a tragic way.

[@cunterella3309]

that was wild she said spicy latina!!1

[@alpacafish1269]

Oh god don't remind me. 🙄

[@afreepotatochip8765]

nooo i had forgotten about her

[@mfuentes4961]

At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if they cancel or completely restructure the show/casting due to the big possibility of the viewers losing interest in the show. So many of the contestants on the show have been exposed for being fake/clout chasers and it just ruins the premise of the whole show.

[@lilyxo6914]

Yes I don’t think I’ll be watching the next season. I’m over the fakeness

[@0912sooli]

Idk I love this show but mostly international seasons...they are waay more succesful and better

[@IconVlog.]

Yeah I’m over it. I want people to tryyy. It’s not even fun anymore

[@Strawberry-zb9mz]

@@0912sooli The japan season was so sweet!! I still follow the couples that made it. So cute.

[@LifeOfKells]

It’s so annoying how they don’t seem to take ppl who ACTUALLY apply, they seem to reach out to ppl via DM which is so odd! Like why not take the ppl who apply and *potentially are actually looking for a partner with marital intent. These ppl seem like “well someone reached out via DM and I said fck it, why not”🤦‍♀️

[@mjr3902]

as someone who use to experience “bean dip” in school, it’s definitely SA. it’s like an unsolicited ass slap. it’s not a joke.

[@saradawn9385]

100% I was shocked that they were so cavalier about it.

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

And Laura had the audacity to be so dismissive about it 👀 idk what sorority she learned that in, but there are real world consequences for that. You getting hit, regardless, at the least

[@cassiea13245678]

This shocked me, I feel so bad that AD has to deal with this and probably feels like she can’t make it an issue if she wanted to. No one is touching me like that and laughing about it later

[@morganniciomhair8284]

I thought maybe coz I'm Irish and older that I just did not get it.I was so offended.Especially oh!anyone notice it was a Black woman who it was put on?Hear this..she has more self control than I have.I know it's just a silly show.But I so weary .Big love from Ireland. I know!Love is BLIND is hardly the political place to talk about serious things, just thought,how do I keep track ?So much blaaah.❤NOT!

[@Alltherestofus]

@@saradawn9385”cavalier” I like that 🤭

[@bear0702]

Kenneth’s behavior really threw me. He seemed like such a mature, communicative guy. Then suddenly he’s stonewalling her, and more excited about dolphins than he is about moving in with his fiancé. Him scrolling while Brittany is sobbing was ROTTED. If he wasn’t interested (for whatever reason), okay. But he was such a dick about it under a thin veil of maturity, it was such a quick 180.

[@moustik31]

He probably didnt find her attractive and was too chicken sh*t to adress the issue head on and resorted to giving her the silent treatment. Doesnt bode well for his future partner.

[@itssilvermadallion]

I think that conversation with AD woke him up….. he started thinking

[@AnonPanOn]

As a polyamorous, cis woman.... you hit the nail on the fucking head. non-monogamous monogamous people(cheaters) absolutely baffle me. They find my lifestyle immoral but have no issues cheating their way through relationships and blaming it on passion and romance.

[@lauracapper3807]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that it’s something about how the Woman/Partner needs or should be faithful/monogamous but the cheater doesn’t have to. “Do as I say, not as I do” but that’s a guess…

[@cassiea13245678]

@@lauracapper3807honestly I think serial cheaters both enjoy hurting other people and have low self esteem that translates to “I’ll hurt you/fail eventually so why even try”. Just toxic af

[@Tink00]

I think they don't want ethical non-monogamy, because they don't want their partner to be able to have their own freedoms and set their own boundaries. They want a loyal wife who lives for them, while they fuck around

[@slsthewriter1299]

I think the prime reason is they are acting purely out of emotion. It's documented that the reason why lust and new relationships are so engaging is because you literally get more dopamine hits since they're new, so you don't quite know what to expect, rather than knowing what to expect from a person you have an established bond with. So cheaters like this want the stability and benefits of a traditional marriage, but they're out there chasing this high to get their dick wet because…fun fact, men are very emotional. xD Thanks to testosterone. (And before anybody argues with that… Part of the reason why women are more emotional on their periods is because testosterone levels are raised. So. You know.) In any case, they're not really wrong in blaming it on passion and romance. Because that is what it is. Both of those things are fleeting. Passion in this context relates to lust. Romance is dependent on the notion of mystery. The more you bond and get to know a person, that newfound lust will be something people get used to (so it doesn't feel like a rush anymore), and romance ebbs away because where's the mystery?

[@st4rz.of.perdition]

so many cis men think they can have their cake and eat it too

[@SEOshogun]

Thank you! I'm so confused about why people villainized AD when she was the one being objectified. It just looked like she plastered on a polite smile and waited for the drunk guy standing too close to leave

[@rachellerockel]

We like to villainize beautiful women to soothe our own insecurities. It’s disheartening. If she has ever been SA’d I promise she was blamed. I hate it here.

[@brianaisabel2006]

So her sticking her ass out more and loving the attention. She’s not a villain but she’s also not as innocent as everyone loves to paint her out to be

[@SEOshogun]

​@@brianaisabel2006 why is it not innocent to wiggle her ass to make a joke of the fact that Chelsea is literally calling her a bookshelf and asking her how to get an a$$ like that? And why does she have to be "innocent" anyway? For whom?

[@SEOshogun]

​@@rachellerockelugh I hate that for her.

[@SEOshogun]

​@@brianaisabel2006she doesn't have to be innocent for anyone. I assume she's a whole and layered person. It seems like she leans into the objectifying to keep things light which doesn't say anything about who she is except for maybe a survivor.

[@rey0girl]

Clay is not interested in ethical non monogamy because he doesn't like the idea of it being open on her end. Remember him freaking out about AD talking to other men (even though that's the point of the show)? He would see it as competition and that would make his insecurities worse. He should just be single.

[@Black.Rose743]

Yeah most dudes "convince" their partners for open relationships but the moment their partner gets more attention than them they immediately close it

[@awkward_human]

I think this show is called love is blind not cause they can’t see each other in the beginning but because everyone acts like they can’t see as soon as the red flags start popping up

[@ameenahmorris7076]

"When you're looking at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."

[@synnakae04]

@@ameenahmorris7076 W bojack horseman reference

[@keeairra3854]

How do we know Kenneth isn’t bisexual? A lot of ppl are speculating on his sexuality but even if it’s true that he likes men it’s also possible that he can like both men and women. Ppl often rule that out for men and make it seem like they can’t be bisexual

[@KennieJD]

Very true!

[@OliveCupcakes]

the bi-erasure is real

[@jadetree]

it's also just so gross to megaphone his outting like being outted isn't a traumatic thing. fr wth... not sure why she included that in the vid as if it's some "tea". just gross,,, messy people still deserve basic respect

[@andiman44]

@@jadetreeMaybe because he could’ve been potentially knowingly wasting someone else’s time on the show like Trevor. Britney was crying over their breakup so she did seem to really care about him. If someone is still figuring out their sexuality, why the hell would they go on a public dating show? I understand your point but I also understand why Kennie thought it was worth mentioning.

[@Vesperad0]

​@@jadetreeI don't think she added that as "tea", considering she acknowledged how shitty of a cousin he must have. She even mentioned the risks with being a possibly black gay man working as a principal in the south, where some bigots would most definitely try to get him fired. And like another commentor said, even if he is having struggles with his sexuality, I think one of the worst things he could've done was go on television and try to marry a woman, if he's not into them. I fully understand the stress and depression and general angst that can come from denying yourself and forcing yourself to a lifetime of marriage with someone you can't/don't love, and the social pressures that come along with it, but again I feel it would've been better to just try and date women rather than marry one on television.

[@globehopp3r]

Totally agree, Kennie--Clay "sharing his fears" with AD felt more like preparing her for the fact that he's DEFINITELY going to cheat on her.

[@natatatm]

And when he does he can say "well I told you this was an issue for me" as if that somehow absolves the behavior

[@zzzmariana]

Yeah, the fact he brought up this subject more than once - and he's gonna talk about it AGAIN according to the preview - is concerning. If I'm engaged to someone and this person continuously shares that they're unsure about being faithful, I ain't gonna stick around and find out.

[@PeroEstefania]

I saw the face of AD when he told her that stuff and have to disagree with Kennie, Ad seems to have the smile and light in the yes of a woman saying "Oh you dumb, pathetic man"

[@vanyadolly]

And the guy already starts getting itchy within a couple of weeks? I just can't wrap my head around how these people were racing to start cheating as soon as they were out of the pods.

[@jazzyg530]

It almost seems like he wants her to leave him because he has no courage or integrity to end it himself. He came on this show to meet even more women in real life when the show ends

[@laurynmilton1868]

So many people are blaming AD for Brittany and Kenneths break up when he clearly just wasn’t that into her

[@queenofsleep637]

this season has really brought out the misogynoir of the contestants and viewers. Jimmy hitting on AD is AD's fault. AD being the victim of SA A.KA "bean dip" and causing Laura and Jeramey to fight is ADs fault. Kenneth breaking up with Brittany is ADs fault, People are speculating that AD is the girl Jimmy slept with when we hear Chelsea scream "you f-- her!".... Like AD is one of the least problematic people on the show, and yet people still want to accuse her of things she has not done. Yes, she is attractive, but the way the cast members and viewers keep bringing her up you would think she cheated (Jeramey/Jimmy/SK/Bartise/Jackie), all she has done is lived in a Black body that happens to be curvy. It is giving Sara Baartman. It is giving yt women who forced bw to wear scarves or shave their heads because they saw them as competition.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

For real, I could tell he wasn’t that into her way before that convo with AD.

[@Fluff_Noodles]

​@@queenofsleep637 Say it louder!! And people STILL wanna pretend like we treat attractive black fems the same as attractive white fems? It's either delusion or deliberate ignorance 🤮

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

@@queenofsleep637 It's actually WILD when you deep it like this like WOAH!?! people are so scary to black women it's insane. It's like, we breathe, and accusation come hurtling at us.

[@Kalolelo]

I don’t blame her for their breakup but for me it was invasive to ask that to someone she knows for 10 days. I’m Latina and someone told me that in the Black community it’s acceptable so 🤷🏻‍♀️ if y’all ok with that then I guess it’s ok for you. I would only allow my family and friends to ask me those types of questions, I have had bad experiences with strangers getting into my business with “good intentions” and I hate it.

[@monarch3495]

Why’s it always dudes who’s daddies have cheated, who are so scared of cheating as if some mistress is going to run up and pull down their drawers? My brother in Christ just keep your pants on. You are in control.

[@angygremlin4423]

I'd understand it a lot more if they had a fear of being cheated on, but being afraid you can't be loyal because your daddy wasn't is some straight up BS.

[@jaydenhalverson8919]

bringing your CHILDDD to your “cheating trips” is crazy…

[@vcgomeez]

He was a “great father” yet contributed fully to why clay has commitment issues and why he thinks a black man can’t be “faithful” LMFAO… comical. And embarrassing

[@madisonboz447]

I want a “who tf did I marry” because I don’t feel like watching all of it so your summary would be great.

[@JodiesSideEye]

Was just about to type this. Kennie's commentary has to be gold!

[@freespiritmara]

Please let this happen! PLEASE!

[@heather-ks8st]

Please please PLEASE

[@whoopsydaisy6389]

Yes please! I got through some of it, but the repetition and extraneous details are too much for my impatience to endure. I need the Cliffs Notes version from Kennie.

[@Sierraskyeful]

Same!

[@aesserafim585]

kenneth AND trevor turning into the villains was not on my love is blind bingo card

[@suncoco6495]

Right. Here I was, feeling sorry for Trevor… smh 😑

[@KarenAMathis]

I was like "Noooo, Trevor."

[@salamander8301]

It was on mine, especially Trevor. His whole schstick seemed bullshit and his smile didn't reach his eyes. He was clearly gunning for an engagement, also his fav movie is the note book... Mmkay

[@olugboyeopeyemi2428]

​@@salamander8301 me and you sis! Something about him was off from the start

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

@@salamander8301The Nice Guy persona🤣🤣

[@SteadiestRhyme]

I'm shocked a couple hasn't tried pretending to be strangers to get a free wedding. That's the level of integrity this show seems to be running with. Thank you for watching and retelling so I don't have to watch it. ❤

[@user-rm3ey2qr6j]

I was thinking the same thing the other day; like why is no one did it before 😂

[@bunnyluvspie]

My partner and i often consider doing this because at this point WHY THE HELL NOT? free honeymoon, free wedding, dress, ring, everything. The only thing stopping us is that we would probably be hated by everyone once we get caught, and we didnt want to deal with having to date other people. We also didnt want to be on a terrible show LOL

[@cocoachuu]

my fiancée and i always joke we should do this lol

[@katymello3547]

That’s low key genius 😂😂

[@ALLLYYYYY1337]

I joked with my husband that we should do this when the first season came out 🤣 but I wouldn’t want to be on TV for everything about my life to be dug up and aired out

[@xorayne_]

everyone loved jessica’s little “you’re gonna gag” speech but i thought it was cringey and very pick me and then she proved it by constantly mentioning how much better she thinks she is than chelsea

[@NothingGoodHere1001]

I'm glad I'm not the only one, like I love good slay and read as much as the next person, but it did lowkey make me go "girl, you doing too much over a loser...." And then to still be fawning over him afterward... Like what do yall see???

[@srose1088]

The contraception thing confused me too. It annoys me when men act like women on hormonal birth control is a given.

[@qveenallyssa]

My understanding was that he's not against condoms, just he doesn't think that's enough protection. Which is a fair thought. But yeah, why is that her responsibility to meet his comfort level? The whole conversation he had about "oh I thought all women were on birth control, I didn't know it had side effects" was insane. Like it's a medication, hello? Of course there's side effects.

[@unicorngallerexy9288]

@@qveenallyssa There are still men, grown men, who have no clue about how periods work. Women issues, birth control included, are either never talked about, never taught, or completely overlooked. I dont find it surprising

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

@@unicorngallerexy9288Even in an era where we are more open about using contraception, there’s education on birth control that’s severely lacking in all fronts.

[@nokhanyon6288]

I love how men act like vasectomies don't exist. You can get it done in your doctors office office and They're reversible!! Why must women always be the one's responsible for the birth control??

[@yazzyari9746]

O absolutely. And then to add more to make it even worse not only do some expect women to handle birth control they complain if theres any responsibility shifted their way in that area. Like im sorry u can make a baby too?? Its not just on the woman who can get pregnant U CAN MAKE HER PREGNANT??

[@hospitable_ghost]

I saw SOOOO many people insist AD was flirting with Jimmy, especially at the barbecue. Like...if you're insecure and think all pretty/charismatic girls being nice is flirting, that's on you!

[@whoopsydaisy6389]

The insecurity swirling around ADs very existence is next level! It's so unfair because she seems like a genuinely nice person.

[@Vesperad0]

If you're pretty you must be a bitch, stupid, or self obsessed. If you're black and being nice, you must be hypersexual. And if you're a woman accepting a compliment, you must be a slut. Add the three together and you get the perfect victim. To be honest I don't even really think it's insecurities, but moreso a lack of understanding of how much depth various humans can have. Like, these people perceive the world around them as fictional characters when humans are almost always contradictory and multifaceted.

[@Ashbrash1998]

I hated that too because she literally was just being nice, meanwhile everybody else was being wierd and talking about her body

[@HappyHouse-nn9hu]

Nah, you could see it in her eyes and hear it in her voice. I saw it immediately. I don’t think she cares about Jimmy, but she really liked the attention he gave her because she is extremely insecure.

[@registeredjopper]

​@@HappyHouse-nn9hucalling AD insecure??? girl I know your fists are clenched tight rn

[@hospitable_ghost]

Also, this show needs better NDAs, forreal. How are the contestants posting shit that spoils what happens (Sarah Ann posting from Jeramy's house, etc) in the episodes that aren't out yet? They need to just drop the whole season at once if they're gonna let people post whatever.

[@DefyReality-ll2cg]

That would require them to actually put in effort.

[@chelinka777]

​@@DefyReality-ll2cg😭😭😭

[@emilyau8023]

Conservative women like Sarah are often not a girl's girl.

[@Wraiven22]

Jimmie is only 28 years old?! Holy crap. I thought that man was 35 AT LEAST.

[@nemo6205]

At this point the first question you need to ask in the pods is ARE YOU SINGLE?!

[@freespiritmara]

And if yes, how long have you been single?

[@rollercoasterhater]

more so “is there someone else irl who believes they are in a relationship with you” 🤨🤨🤨

[@AshleyMcMahon]

@@rollercoasterhaterbut WHY is this a question I *regularly* have to ask?!?! I am so tired of getting caught up in some bullshit…

[@surrealfantasy1554]

the whole "i'm afraid I'll cheat on you because of my dad" thing...is so strange to me...like... just don't cheat? Huhhh?

[@chelinka777]

If anything ur dad cheating should show you that it's wrong and you should be better than that

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

Yep, where's the agency? It's also racist and deterministic. Racial determinism. But people have free will, Clay. You truly _choose_ it.

[@andromeda138]

Right, like there's no rule men have to act like their fathers. Sounds like his mom was faithful, he has a great role model there that he just refuses to emulate.

[@forevera5241]

His sexuality aside, it doesn't excuse the way he treated her in the end. Being religious, having certain sexual preferences, whatever intrinsic biases you may have, your life story and past experiences, none of these things give you the green light to be a jerk.

[@impposter560]

Cheaters get married because they need someone they can use. It has nothing to do with societal pressure, it has to do with security; the security of having a woman 'contractually' obligated to always provide support, whether that be emotional, physical or financial. They don't want a wife or a partner; they want a home base 😒

[@gigibeal]

a 'home base' is SICK oh my god, but it's exactly what it is... when i think of my own father and his many many years of cheating on my mom, that's literally what it was like for him omg.

[@vcgomeez]

Disgusting behaviour 🤢

[@3meleon]

dk why contractually is in quotes, because it literally is a contract :/

[@impposter560]

@@3meleonThe vows for in sickness and in health, yada yada, are not actually the legally binding contract; all that is just vows. People treat Vows and Contracts as the same thing a lot of the time. But you are not legally or contractually bound to be someones emotional crutch, or even to provide *ex, housing or financial support. And the things cheaters look for are the things in vows, not contracts. Thus, "contractually". Hope that cleared it up 👍

[@daarmonet]

LIB did not vet a single one of the male cast this season AT ALL !!! like i get the show is cheap drama but damn ??? atp they had to intentionally look for the worst of the worst 💀💀💀 (i was rooting for you trevor 😢)

[@HBCSChannel]

In fact they reached out to them knowing thier baggage they orchestrated this drama hun

[@jaydenhalverson8919]

I feel like they have to do this intentionally to create more buzz sprinkle a few good people to root for and they’ve got plot lines

[@TJ-jk4ut]

Just found out that Trevor was in a whole relationship when he signed up for this show 💀

[@Akeyins]

Trevor makes me wanna pull out that old ass Tyra meme. We were all rooting for him 😮‍💨

[@XavierVB]

@@HBCSChannel That probably explains why a lotta shit be happening off-camera lmao

[@mintpoofs]

Brittany deserved so much better. No one should be treated like that

[@hehe-oi6ud]

my heart was breaking for her when she sobbed ALONE in the kitchen 😭

[@Alltherestofus]

@@hehe-oi6udthat was actually so sad to watch. You could tell she wanted to say more/needed more in that moment, and he was so dismissive like “Give me a hug so I know there's no beef” What if I don't wanna give you a hug??? You can console someone and still be firm on your beliefs/decisions. But the hug was like his way of saying “Here, damn.”

[@mariekeho]

​@@AlltherestofusNot only that, but he tried to wiggle out of the hug after like 2 seconds. It took her holding on and saying "I'm not ready to let go yet" or smth to force him into staying in the hug like huh that's your fiancee dude

[@nanathegoat5106]

Yeesss I dunno why people are not more pissed at him. Hee put in zero effort. He literally wasted her time..

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

Hope God gives her comfort 😭💗

[@Akengaroo]

"Kenneth identifies as a black man" did it for me 😂😂😂 She has the purest intentions that it's just funny, I loved them together...

[@cassib2820]

She did really mean well. I liked her.

[@avsambart]

AD needs to go on a 12 week course called How to Read Flags: Green, Red and Everything In-Between.

[@_bebeboudeur_]

can't wait for kennie to drop her lessons for us to be prepared

[@julsenn91]

I think Red, Green, & Everything in Between sounds better. Rhyming is 👩‍🍳💋

[@Brett.Alexandria]

After the truth about Trevor came out.. I was ANTICIPATING Kennie’s response to this 😂❤

[@blueismylove3128]

Oooh what happened bestie?????

[@jdbruce]

@@blueismylove3128He was in an relationship the whole time (I think married). He is also an influencer who already had a management (basically he use LIB for clout and not love)

[@Brett.Alexandria]

@@blueismylove3128 apparently Trevor had a girlfriend while he was on the show 🙃

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

@@blueismylove3128 STILL HAD A GIRLFRIEND AT TIME OF FILMING, BESTIE

[@RueDoesNails]

@@Brett.AlexandriaI swear to god these men are infuriating!!

[@loruffa]

The (now deleted) video on his insta of Trevor talking about his dog dying of cancer the day Chelsea dumped him and how poetic that was, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU LEFT YOUR DYING DOG TO GO ON REALITY TV AND THINK IT'S POETIC

[@leahdavis9434]

Life does not stop because an animal has cancer c'mon now

[@stephanie9463]

Interesting cause his gf just came to expose him so could all be a lie

[@loruffa]

@@stephanie9463 yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about the dog(especially the name) and that was his story for why he doesn't have one anymore. What I don't understand is thinking that spin would make him look good

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

Dude, there is a dude who was just like that on a season of the Bachelorette. His dog has aggressive cancer which he was paying for treatment for but he brought his toy to share with the lead...he even specified it was the dogs chemo therapy toy....the dog was still in chemo at that exact moment.....did was on tv while his dog was dying with cancer without his comfort toy. Needless to say, he was a douche bag

[@erwolf]

The video is still there on his account. Just FYI.

[@jeaninearianne]

Kenneth gaslighting Brittany was so hard to watch, a man making you feel crazy is one of the worst feelings ever 🙁

[@Floratic]

In the scene with Clay and AD meeting his mom and sister. I thought it was strange that when AD said she was cold, Clay's mom offered her shawl. Clay didn't even budge to offer his jacket to AD.

[@msstupidcommenter09]

Shout-out to Chelsea's red head friend. She stayed with the bombastic side eye. When he first comes down them stairs, and when Chelsea said he was the most popular guy in the pods...miss ma'am was ready! 😂

[@micol7490]

I read this comment when the side eye was happening 😂

[@acopperheart]

See, the birth control thing is NO JOKE!!!! They just want to throw women on it 😭 and don’t even care about the life changing conditions that happen to women. Like oh my god. I just find it funny how men’s birth control doesn’t have the green light, but women’s does 🥴

[@mimu3727]

the funniest shit is birth control for men was invented and had the same side effects as pills for women but for men those side effects were too severe ☺️

[@alexacarrillo4339]

My daughter went to the gyn for the first time during Covid and she wanted to get on birth control to make her periods better. She was close to a mental break by the 5 day mark and hadn’t said anything to me. The minute she did I told her to go off of it and that when I had a similar problem with birth control after I had my son it took 3 days to get back to normal so she wasn’t alone at all for 3 days. Luckily it took only 3 days for her as well BUT not only did the Dr not warn her(I had talked to her but once she was in it she couldn’t see her way out of it)when she messaged them through the portal to ask for a different one they told her to stay on the original prescription even though she was close to harming herself on it.

[@Cove_Blue]

​@alexacarrillo4339 It made me suicidal when I was young and I refused to take it since. Even if it would help me with some physical issues now I refuse to even try.

[@alexacarrillo4339]

@@Cove_Blue I will never be on it again as well. I was very close to a psychotic break and I had two tiny humans to take care of that were only 18 months apart in age. The fact that I could have inadvertently harmed them scared me to the point I never wanted to try it again.

[@Cove_Blue]

@@alexacarrillo4339 Oh dang, that's a tough situation alone. I can't imagine how hard that must've been with the addition of bc messing with your system.

[@vanyadolly]

I did not expect Kenneth to be such a problem. I don't know why people are so comfortable being passive-aggressive rather than just telling someone that they aren't interested anymore.

[@sammyland77]

People like clay (allegedly) date people who want monogamy because they don’t want their partners to sleep around, but they can. They want partners who are obsessed with them and they can come home to, but if their partner wants that it’s a turn off. Dated lots of people like that, it’s gross and cruel

[@elleofhearts8471]

it's exactly like that girl on on the queer version of the ultimatum kennie covered. I think her name was Vanessa. she was so convinced her girlfriend (sorry if im misgendering) was obsessed with her and could never make a connection with someone else and was so assured she would be there after Vanessa was done fucking everyone then was surprised when she ended up alone at the end of the show because her girlfriend left her for someone else. I dont get people who take their partner for granted and just want them to be their dolls , essentially.

[@veeee27]

Clay kind of reminds me of a character from a Tyler Perry movie [derogatory].

[@BellesView]

What movie?

[@veeee27]

@BellesView I wasn't referring to a particular movie. Generally Tyler Perry movies tend to have men that are struggling with their "demons" whole time the demon is themselves.

[@sandraa9117]

This is the whole truth 😂

[@daraudobong7195]

He reminds me of Tyler Perry himself! (It’s the lip)

[@keepyourshoesathedoor]

Oooooof

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

No thank you because all AD did was stand there and smile 🙄 it feels like viewers keep looking for reasons to dislike her

[@whoopsydaisy6389]

I think a portion of that is compelled by envy because look at her! 😍 Hopefully the people who feel that way will use that energy to improve their self esteem instead.

[@humaafandi8894]

​@@whoopsydaisy6389 Look at her? Well, she is using her looks (body) and not her personality. I don't find her super beautiful. So what's your point?

[@mechelleshipley6130]

@@humaafandi8894 it’s giving hater like damn what did she do to you but exist she worked for the body she has and if you want to look that way you have to go to the gym babe and not be a hater in KZbin comments

[@humaafandi8894]

@@mechelleshipley6130 I don't hate her. I just don't like people using their bodies for sexual gains. Why isn't she using her mind as was was supposed to in the show?

[@MichellaneousMe]

@@humaafandi8894I literally rewatched the episode to make sure where you were coming from and…she wasn’t using her body? She was literally standing there and being nice. ATP it’s not surprising how you’re talking about AD’s body and supposedly “attitude” instead of how everyone else was objectifying her like an object and thinking of committing SA on her (bean dip). It gross and don’t forget how editing works on shows like this. We have NO idea how everything went down but from what I saw she was in a vulnerable situation and nobody was really on her side.

[@lilyxo6914]

20:36 Kennie!! It technically was Jeramey and his Fiancé’s home! He had a whole fiancé when he signed up to the show. So he took credit for the decor knowing damn well it was his fiancé who decorated to sell the home

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

Crazy because people gound it strange how much his quality of living was emphasized so bad, that maybenow they knew and was slick foreshadowing? Or was a callback to last season

[@christicat221b]

i didn't even put that together. that is straight up dastardly...

[@jletia]

I’m pretty sure they said he moved out of the home he shared with his gf. I think the home we see is actually his new home by himself

[@MissKashira]

How do they consistently manage to find the worst men on the planet to put on that show?!

[@PamelaBowsArt]

I just KNOW that jeramey didn’t JUST like the message. I bet he deleted his response planning to meet up, and showed Laura the text and devised his plan to leave his phone in the car at the bar, not realizing his apple watch would tell on him

[@saww_yer]

that or he waited until after he showed her to respond so he would look like an honest guy🙄

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

That Clay lore about his dad is crazy lmaoo. I don't know how AD just took all that in and was like 😊

[@DontaviaM]

Trauma response. Scared to look like an angry black woman, trying to hard to be seen as fit, feminine and friendly.

[@jazzyg530]

I don't think she enjoyed or even believed it. She looked like she was smiling because she was realizing who he was and uncomfortable.

[@MJ-gm7km]

@@wednesdayaddamss-jc6jnThanks so much for spoiling that for people who wanted to see how it played out on the show.

[@andrealandavazo46]

@@MJ-gm7km If anyone thought they would actually get married, that’s on them😂😂

[@tionak]

Russet telling you to keep her name out cho mouth in front of company was perfection 😂

[@3meleon]

dogs know what's up most of the time istg

[@SEOshogun]

I think its weird the only friends Jimmy has is 2 women he's known for 2 years. Also, when one of the women nods knowingly and says, "oh he cried during?" I was like, um, how does she know he does that? Honestly, it made me think the meltdown Chelsea has about "you f'd her! I know you did!" I think was actually about one of those friends

[@Blahgirl283]

Which would still be unreasonable considering that she herself admitted one of her best male friends is an ex she dated. Unless Jimmy does something during the show - it would be unreasonable for her to feel some type of way I think, maybe she can be upset he didn’t tell her but she’s really intensely anxious.

[@saww_yer]

ooooooo good point, i thought it was about jessica

[@marlaynaharris4975]

Yes! It definitely is about one of his friends. In the episode chelsea says that he doesn’t deny that him and his friend had seggs. They even seriously address it. Jimmy says that him and Chelsea agreed they wouldn’t talk about him having had seggs in the past with his friend on national tv. Which points to the fact that jimmy had seggsual relationship with his close friend. People reallyyyy can’t blame Chelsea for being a little insecure after learning that.

[@07tthom]

We knew last season they wasn't doing no background checks. They had a homeless unemployed man with anger issues and would let his partner leave the show, then they didn't air it. They do not care about these people.

[@laurazepam8382]

Honestly? After his talk with AD i feel like Kenneth suddenly realised he wasn't ready to marry a white woman and basically checked out, waiting for her to end it

[@conansglasses2645]

Ummm ... did you watch till the end 😅

[@beebee5443]

He got ick from her saying “identifies “ 😂

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

Mind-reading is not a real thing.

[@parisewellington3664]

"I need therapy, I have SO many problems😢" "Yes you do🫠" Girl😂😂😂😂

[@morganniciomhair8284]

OH YOU JUS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD❤YESS!FROM IRELAND...PEOPLE ARE LOOKIN AT ME!

[@Tusa.]

Jimmy is clearly not into Chelsea like everytime he talks to her u can just tell😭 its so bad

[@megs1573]

when he said he burnt his lip & that's why he couldn't kiss her 😭let's wrap it up folks

[@tatumtatum]

no bc i feel like love is blind has shifted from a show about people finding love to a trashy reality tv show. like how is this the same show where lauren met cameron?!!

[@iyliyah]

Right! Because it definitely isn’t anymore. The quality of people went downhill

[@lona9461]

That Kenneth situation was whiplash. I kept going back to the scene trying to figuee out if there was something I missed.

[@lalalovemelots4391]

Everything happened so quickly that I couldn’t wrap my head around any of it.

[@katythebeauty330]

All I saw was him laying on the couch looking blank on every episode 😂😂

[@samantha12498]

It seems like JUST a condom didn't feel safe enough for Johnny and Amy which I completely understand. Sometimes they break and an accidental pregnancy is definitely stressful to deal with no matter what choice is made. Also, Amy recently posted on her story with more context and it definitely is not a Johnny only thing.

[@portobeIIa]

i agree, condoms are efficient but never a 100% garantee. I hate birth control pills and i refuse to take them so i can relate to Amy, but man, no amount of godzilla monster fucking sex will make condoms THAT unreliable... like are you that afraid that something slided during the act, to go buy a morning after pill? Does johnny refuse to wear condoms? use the feminine ones! them mental gymnastics to go from celibacy to vasectomy lol

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

Yep, people are forgettin these people re still relative stranger's 😅 possible marriage is one thing, but nobody is trying to get pregnant on tv...by accident...before getting married....only the chick from Ultimatum

[@danvernite]

Finally! I was looking for this comment. Like I get they are on reality tv but they seem to be the only genuine people on this show. It’s my first time watching it ever though so I might be missing something. They just give me really lovely vibes and they don’t drag things out, they seem to be on the same page.

[@olugboyeopeyemi2428]

EXACTLY. Like what's so hard to understand about that?? I am confused by people spinning the narrative and trying to make the only good man this season out to be a bad guy!

[@saww_yer]

@@danvernite YES! they give the vibe of two couples from previous seasons, cameron and lauren, and brett and tiffany! it is so worth it to watch their seasons!

[@Jaytee-3333]

So glad you mentioned Kenneth's gaslighting. He was so good at it that I almost got gaslit! He had me thinking that maybe Brittany wasn't "craving" him and I was about to rewind the episode to see if that's what she said before I realized he was playing us too!!

[@littlerelief]

Boy, some men really refuse to move past the "you have no control, your biology rules you, your only hope is the steadying hand of a woman" conditioning, don't they? Can't even contemplate the idea that their rational mind, if not their emotional bond, could keep them faithful. It'd be sad if it wasn't actively hurting far too many people at every second of every day to gain any empathy from me.

[@parisewellington3664]

As a Jamaican, any combination of Caribbean and African immediately scares me because those men always get the most toxic traits of both sides😂😂 but that being said my best friend is Jamaican-Nigerian and he's not a menace so there's hope I guess🤷🏾‍♀️😂

[@Black2bProud]

Hmmm that's a deadly combination...he must be a unicorn but what does his exes say ? 😂

[@MENACE-km6bd]

A little tip about Americans, "Afro -" doesn't mean African and so-and-so country. It's a politically correct way of saying Black and Caribbean, like afro-latino. It's based on looks; judging a Caribbean person by how black, indian, or latin they look so you can label them as such. It's a bit annoying and dismissive to Caribbean people, sing that the majority of us aren't just black or indian. But hey, that's America. The smartest country in the world lol.

[@TB-jj7ri]

I think many Americans, particularly Black Americans, are aware of this. You could make your PSA without attempting to insult the intelligence of an entire country of individuals.

[@jletia]

⁠@@MENACE-km6bdit’s not deep it’s just means you have black features 😭 you can be Afro Latina and look mixed it just means despite your mixedness your features include black features. I’m Caribbean and have never heard anyone upset about it’s use especially because it’s almost always used for Latinos. We don’t really say Afro Caribbean or at least it’s very uncommon

[@whoopsydaisy6389]

So many of them need therapy but "don't believe in it". 🙄 That attitude is such a pointless waste of some truly beautiful looking men.

[@ComfortablyPlump]

The complete 180 between some of the couples from the vacation to these latest eps was crazy. I feel like footage got cut or something. What did we miss?

[@freespiritmara]

I said the same thing! I went back and rewatched a couple of episodes, because I thought I missed something.

[@MzJamaicanBeauty12]

The reason men like Clay don’t choose ethical non-monogamy is the same reason he freaked out at her for having another connection on a show in which everyone dates 15 people until they decide on someone. He wants to do anything he wants, with someone committed and loyal to him. And in ethical non-monogamy, that’s not the name of the game.

[@brand_warwick]

“Sex is a team sport, and also a competition. You’re both on the same team, and also fighting a war 😏, ” said the Mars-ruled Scorpio Rising

[@dancerbabe02]

FINALLY someone else feeling the same visceral understanding when clay said he dad was Guyanese LMFAOO while also saying the dad would flirt with AD….if you are of Caribbean descent, you WILL understand lol

[@vanessaursille8786]

For the question you asked about why men get married/are in relationships I think it’s because they get a lot of benefits from it compared to what they’d have to lose: a wife, kids, a home and all the other benefits society gives them for that. So it would be advantageous to marry/cheat than to be single but what do I know🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sheshereisntshe297]

Yup. It’s the religious and cultural norms that has been interwoven into society even in this present modern world where society is more secular. It was set by those who created and were in authority of social, religious, economic, political values and practices of society since the dawn of time: men. Men and women must get married, men must provide while women support and nurture and take care of them and their kids. For the men, they get to have a second mom who will cook and clean for them, provide them with hiers, raise their children, satisfy their physical and sexual needs without having any emotional attachment to their partners. For women it was the only way to escape not only poverty, but social alienation, and discrimination. Centuries back, marriage wasn’t seen as an act of love more like an act of economic necessity, and a conformity to societal expectations. So it was okay to cheat on your wife, have more than two partners because there was no emotional attachment. Even till today where more and more people claim to marry for love, these belief systems have never died out. So men want a wife because they still believe in that norm that they need to be taken care of. They want to come home to someone who will keep their house clean, satisfy them sexually, provide them with kids, and be their companion without doing any emotional labour, while living the bachelor life.

[@magnoliaskogen]

And 7 hours per week of housekeeping labor from their wife, on average!!

[@elleofhearts8471]

then men also complain about alimony, child support / family court, division of assets in divorce, etc. you would think this would make men who don't want to be monogamous to not get married or to at least be upfront about wanting an open marriage and get vasectomies on their own volition. so to me that says marriage can't be that bad for men since they keep getting married and having kids despite their bitching about marriage, divorce and family court. Whereas women initiate divorce most often. so I believe marriage really is as bad for women as women say.

[@valeriejohnson8771]

Maybe I was naive, but when I exchanged vows with my husband, I never had the fear that he would have cheated on me. As far as I'm aware, he never cheated. He was always attentive, and always "into me." When a man truly loves and values his partner, all things being equal, I doubt crosses his thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are men out there who don't cheat. I'm noticing the quality of men on this show decreasing with every passing season.

[@rebbit8767]

Still can't believe Keith went from "God gave me this woman for a reason" to "yeah no lovin but no beef, we cool good luck with your life" WTF 😅

[@rgs8970]

I think the producers are sloppy about background checks (rather than bringing on messy doodoo heads on purpose), bc if they knew what was REALLY going on, they would have put it on the screen! How can LIB take such potentially juicy drama and turn it into the most boring actual show?

[@merandasomnolentgamer8323]

Kennie's videos are so entertaining that I tried watching the show once and I couldn't even get through an episode.

[@momo156D]

Used to be long nail girly, and it's upsetting when men ask. If a girly wants to know, fine, but it's always the loser coworker guy who ends up asking. Like, why do you want to talk about the things going on with my butt, sir? I'm not nor will ever be interested in you or your life. The worst are the married men who stare at your chest🤢

[@nyashajoseph9684]

I also feel like sometimes they ask implying that you don’t wipe your butt. It’s like they’re calling you dirty in the form of a jokey question cuz they aren’t genuinely looking for an answer

[@morganniciomhair8284]

Don't pay them anything!!!❤

[@christicat221b]

bro why do nasty men care its not like they wiping their ass anyway💀

[@stilletexas]

Each and every time Clay mentioned how suave his dad is, almost admiring that quality, I felt uncomfortable. Like, why is that quality specifically what stands out about your dad? How your parent attracts the opposite sex is something very strange to admire idk

[@tosina2946]

kenny being outed (if true) is just really sad. he's in the south, he's black, he's a principle and in a religious background -- him going on the show doesn't necessarily mean he was there to deceive anyone; if anything, i see it as him desperately trying to get married to a woman in order to cement his self-denial. obviously, it isn't fair to the woman he would've married but that kind of self-denial and desperation can be incredibly emotionally blinding and difficult, especially for a man in his position and positionality. I'm not saying he's an angel, but like -- it's probably real hard for him. and getting outed is the worst, so. :/

[@Greenbean144]

Ppl get offended and annoyed by the "how do you wipe your ass" question because most of the time, it's not a genuine question where they want a genuine answer. They're just being a troll and it's not funny.

[@kaiken419]

As a Guyanese woman, it absolutely does make sense. These men are........something.

[@NaramSinofAkkad790]

The conversation around birth control was so weird because the way they're talking makes it seem like they aren't touching each other at all. Like non penetration intimacy just doesn't exist.

[@saww_yer]

idk, on the first night amy said the physical connection was an 11/10 so i figured they're doing everything but?

[@AudsLecker]

re: why do cheaters never seem to seek out ethical non-monogamy relationships and always go for the monogamy ones-- I think it's the attention. I think they want somebody to be 100% dedicated to them, put all their love on them, because it fills some sort of deep hole. Except it never fills that hole, bc the hole is their insecurity and self hatred. It can only be filled by loving yourself. So when their partner inevitably can't "fix them", they seek out love and attention outside of the relationship.

[@Becca11389]

as someone who unknowingly dated a gay man for 2 years, was considering marriage, and then got my heart shattered. like yeah DON'T DO THAT TO PEOPLE. i had years of therapy trying to figure out why i was so 'disgusting and unlovable' to someone who SAID they loved me all the time but didn't ACT like it ever. turns out he knew he was gay the whole time but wasn't ready to be out of the closet, and it's like bruh, i know you are having issues but don't drag me along for the ride. i spent years blaming myself for not being enough. and when i found out, and we had tried to be friends again it really hurt to hear 'wow i hope i can find a guy who is just like you'! yeah, too bad i don't have a penis huh? im bisexual and that is the last thing that matters to me, but good to know that THAT was the dealbreaker. good to know that to him that was enough to condone gaslighting me for YEARS that i was the problem in our relationship (wouldn't have had a meltdown if i didn't literally feel like i was going insane from the way you treated me!). if you don't want someone then don't be with them just to cover your own ass at family dinners and play at being straight. don't lie to the person who is SUPPOSED to be your most important and swear up and down that you want to be with them when you are really just using them for convenience because you can't face your truth. it's cruel.

[@daarmonet]

I BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO POST THISSSSS

[@joshuaobat]

No dead ass. Was legit at work the other day thinking…”I hope my girl talking to that camera rn!!”

[@hyoungjunii4845]

@@joshuaobatu funny for this one

[@keiraboi880]

love the pfp

[@Strawberry-zb9mz]

I was obsessively refreshing youtube lmao

[@alondramartin]

Rightttttt

[@dignature123]

11:47 As a guyanese man, yes it DOES explain ALOT. God Bless AD, if she says yes at the alter, well...she'll never have a dull moment in her marriage, i'll say that!

[@alexandragreen7990]

Clay had daddy issues. He loves his dad but witnessed his dad disrespect him mom and has yet to unpack that. That said, he needs to leave AD and any other woman out of this journey

[@cpkgrownup9496]

35:40 Russet said don’t be talking shit about her on camera. 😂😂😂😂

[@yakasitamercy3645]

clay is literally telling her he’s going to cheat on her and shes just there smiling💀

[@EltedyBnguapo]

Clay reads to me as the portrait of a narcissist who spotted the perfect victim, shown in his hyperfixation on looks, his incline to cheat and the way he presents those traits to victimize himself to look more romantic to the victim's biggest defect.

[@meganwhite7270]

Yes! Well said.

[@aytizzle56]

AD seems like a great woman who has her shit together other than the fact that she seems to be looking at Clay and all his problems like that farmer in Holes who kept telling Kissin Kate Barlow "I can fix that"

[@olugboyeopeyemi2428]

Does she really have her shit together if she's attracted to red flags and doesn't know how to walk away instead of playing "fix a ho" like she said.

[@regularity2556]

Long ago we thought Matthew was the ultimate LIB villain, now between Kenneth gaslighting ways, Jeramey cheating, Trevor faking his way on the show and now threatening his real life ex. Where does LIB get these men from ???

[@devonmunn5728]

Probably not a coincidence. These shows purposely look for and seek out these kind of people. Unstable, insecure, manipulative, egocentric, etc. A person with at least one of these traits these teams see as great to exploit for entertainment. That's a huge reason why I don't care to see these shows zero in on Marginalized/Oppressed Communities. These shows already exploit the people who go on them and for people from even more vulnerable communities being fodder for these production teams to exploit is something no one needs. Ideally though these types of shows shouldn't exist at all

[@Okra_winfrey]

Nick and Vanessa are not gonna ask the questions that need to be asked. Last season, a man was casted who was homeless with no job, money and had bad credit and was asked nothing about that.

[@devonmunn5728]

Referring to Izzy?

[@carolacv3471]

One girl “she was the only girl that I was seriously considering” that was so telling

[@amelia3146]

Ahh the Trevor thing was like the epitome of “disappointed but not surprised”

[@Teodora4537x]

On Amy and Johnny contraception talk, it seems like a lot got cut. They’ve talked about it all from the pods till the ep we see. She has a hereditary illness that she may pass on, that she told him about. Her and her doctor aren’t sure on how contraception works with that as research is a bit behind. They did discuss condoms, but he’s worried of the risk of a single contraception method given he grew up with a lot of economical struggles and he doesn’t want to repeat that. So it just seems they’re figuring out the risks they’re willing to take. The edit seems to have really missed all the key parts.

[@acaciasiobhan9205]

They’re doing the background checks & picking messy people specifically knowing the audience is gonna find some irl shit. We’re going Black Mirror meta

[@tallbeauty]

I really don't think they do background checks although it was claimed that they did. If they did, a lot of people would NOT have been on this show from jump.

[@kaylalock3502]

I see AD as being emotionally checked out at this point lol I definitely feel like she’s already made her mind up about him and is going to say no, but has to wait until the altar. She doesn’t seem to care to ask more questions or challenge him, I think she’s done.

[@kaylalock3502]

Boy was I wrong 😭 she was IN LOVE. Sickkkk

[@Capital_celebrationsssss]

No one’s going to talk about how her dog told her to “Keep their name out her mouth” 😂 when Kennie started talking shit

[@Blomnkv]

The thing with Johnny is that he def was hinting at abortion. He wants her to say if she ever gets pregnant that she would get one. He just wants to hit it raw.

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

👀 set up. Maybe a Bart Simpson Chad who either is a hypocrite or wants things to fall through because of "ethical" differences

[@damieo8139]

Very selfish behaviour.

[@Akemi.24-45]

Well, I don't think it'll be that easy to have one since it practically became illegal. And now, the IVF controversy. I haven't seen anyone on the streets about it though. I think things are gonna get very ugly for the people. Especially poor people.

[@olugboyeopeyemi2428]

Um....maybe stop ASSUMING what his thoughts are and actually watch the scene again Amy literally said he is scared that condoms wouldn't be enough protection hence needed any other alternatives as extra protection so HE DOES NOT WANT TO HIT IT RAW cause men who do wanna hit it raw wouldn't care if you care pregnant or not.

[@Chibbykins]

​@@olugboyeopeyemi2428 um, men absolutely *do* care if they get a girl pregnant, which is why so many like the pull out method. They want to hit it raw without actually having to deal with the consequence of having a kid. Unfortunately a lot of those men lack the discipline to actually time things properly, which is how unwanted pregnancies happen.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

I feel the point about Clay being cheater while seeking monogamous relationship is that, for cheater, it's more about power and control? Even poly relationship has agreed upon boundaries. Cheaters would still break that boundaries in poly relationship.

[@makeupwith_jojo]

2:26 Chelsea definitely brought up the Megan Fox comparisons she gets to get Jimmy to consider her more. I’m convinced she was intimidated by how good Jessica looks and she subconsciously wanted him to consider her more

[@bakeddulce5451]

Didn't know he was part Caribbean. As soon as you said that, I just went "checks out". I've come across men like him living on an island near where his part is from. My visceral reaction seeing clips of him makes more sense. I can't stand him.

[@adjadenisedoumbia9305]

Omg😂

[@sbabywhine]

I feel like Kenneth got cold feet when he started to think about if he was willing to marry a white women. He made it VERY clear that his friends would not approve. The second Brittany expressed her displeasure with his behavior he jumped on the opportunity to break up with her.

[@Tusa.]

Kenneth did not gaf he already had his boyfriend waiting outside.

[@blossomlarrysakura929]

😂😂😂 boyfriend