Netflix's Pinocchio is TERRIFYINGLY GOOD

Finally, a good Pinocchio movie in 2022
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[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

I love what they did with The Blue Fairy in this movie. She could have easily been a normal woman with a sparkling dress, wand, and wings, but that would have been far too predictable. She's a more biblical and angelic looking creature with multiple wings and eyes, making her more unique than other versions. She also has a dark counterpart who gave Pinocchio immortality as she gave him life.

[@thetruthlies7]

The first sister is chaotic good, since she goes against the rules but for a good reason. The second sister is lawful neutral, who obides by the laws only. She may seem slightly cynical and dismissive, but she has a good heart.

[@forestboi9760]

honestly the second look could be "biblical" too, old testament angels are fuckin terrifying

[@moosenman]

Actually, they’re meant to be life and death!

[@cintronproductions9430]

I love how likable they made Death despite being, well, Death. Although intimidating, she's very kind, wise and polite, she is no villain, being the guardian of the afterlife is simply her purpose in the universe. She was also nice enough to warn Pinocchio that he'd lose his immortality if he resurrected early, and when he does, she doesn't chastise him for this decision, she made it clear that the choice was his. Also as creepy as she looks, at the same time she's oddly beautiful.

[@Awesomeflame16]

@@cintronproductions9430 death was never actually evil in the first place I believe, he's/she is Jus made out to be in many fictional works, which is fine by me, death is cool as a nice person though

[@toni_verso]

Gepetto's son being named Carlo is probably a reference to Carlo Collodi (a.k.a. the author of the original Pinocchio)

[@johnny_boi5456]

Woah, didn’t realize that at first

[@theenderkirby]

Report the channel of @whaaa t for the shameless self promotion

[@S1rD4niel]

Definitely*

[@CelticLuna]

I thought of that last night

[@sonicfanboy3375]

That makes me wonder if "Carlo's book" was a reference to the original Pinocchio 🤔

[@anisundecided]

This movie is actually the only exception to my rule of hating poop/fart jokes because it's self-aware and makes sense for the character. Pinocchio is a little kid; of course his 'genius plan' is going to be changing all the lyrics in the song to poop and farts and I thought it was kind of cute tbh

[@joshuabrien2970]

It works even better cause Mussolini is just like that wasn't fun and just has him shot and the the place burned down

[@kaya.serrano1693]

It’s also kind of a kid version way of saying “eat shit, fascists”

[@cintronproductions9430]

That was a poop/fart joke DONE RIGHT. It wasn't just something that comes out of nowhere and adds nothing to the story, it actually was part of the story because it was Pinocchio's plan to sabotage Volpe, and it works because Volpe loses everything because of this, so it wasn't pointless. And it shows how brave Pinocchio is for literally telling Mussolini to eat sh*t, and like you said it makes sense for Pinocchio's character because he's a kid. Not to mention that it's genuinely funny and hysterical, cuz again, Pinocchio of all characters is literally telling Mussolini to eat sh*t! XD

[@AnniChu]

YES I agree! It’s actually done right!

[@jazzycat8917]

Yeah an exception will be made for it coz its the kind of thing that would have made the real Mussolini stroke out with rage. Dude was infamously obsessed with machismo and being perceived as a big strong grown up manly man, so embarassing him with a song about being a poopy diaper baby......we can accept this.

[@nelkylemontelijao8303]

I actually enjoy the realistic reaction of everyone the moment they saw Pinocchio. Me repeatedly saying "THAT's how you should react to a talking pile of wood." every time they scream in horror.

[@jendoe9436]

Not to mention its post WW1, early fascist Italy in an obviously practicing Catholic village. Don’t care how saintly or caring you are, talking wooden boy immediately falls under “demon!” category until proven other wise 😂😅

[@kaknorii9213]

And the fact that the catholic people call him a demon and stuff like that, it just makes sense

[@kelleyceccato7025]

Plus it gives rise to the "How come they love him (Crucifix) and not me?" conversation between Pinocchio and Geppetto, which I love.

[@EbonyPenmarks]

Overlooked part: Candlewick starting to cry after Pinocchio talks about the complications of parental love, and you can tell Candlewick is crying because he can’t see that in his own pops

[@andrewgan557]

Cause his father is an abusive asshole who wants a " perfect soldier" for a son not a son who has his own free will of his own.

[@fatmario8244]

Yeah I think that was an important little side plot worth mentioning

[@georgeeastwood6930]

I also feel like the Podesta promotes toxic masculinity & forbade Candlewick to cry at all as “REAL men don’t cry” according the former blacksmith of Geppetto’s town.

[@Dracobyte]

And now Pinoccho has won the Oscar!

[@ToonBoom788]

I wanted Candlewick to have a moment to see him after the war even with the bittersweet ending

[@Mr_Vorland]

I wonder if Gepetto is an unreliable narrator with how well behaved Carlo is, and Pinocchio reminds him of the bad times he had while raising his son and would rather remember him in an illusion of what he thinks his son was rather than how he actually acted.

[@abrahamnarvaez1730]

Great now I gotta rewatch the whole movie with that in mind

[@natereynolds2783]

Kinda like OMORI, with Sunny and Mari, with the former in his mind elevated Mari from being a good but bossy sister to a retroactively perfect being. Loss can twist the past

[@flask223]

Probably just because most children are annoying sometimes

[@hanniaedithmartinezadame794]

Yes, when a loved one passed away, people tend to only say and exaggerate the good things about them. Suddenly they talk like they were a perfect person. I agree.

[@thegoatcarnival]

Makes sense. Ewan McGregor Cricket was established as the narrator, and he did say that all that Carlos stuff happened before he was around… While I’m talking about the cricket, I love that Geppetto actually interacted with him. If you’re gonna keep the cricket alive for the entire movie, have more than just Pinocchio and the Blue Fairy interact with him.

[@Squintis]

It was emotional. It was dark. It was silly. It made you think. It was a work of art. Not just a hastily made cash grab. I miss when major picture movies tried to be art more.

[@witchw0lf98]

Me too. Some studios play it safe and just do whats worked in the past instead of trying new ideas so most of their new works just feel bland. At least we have del Toro and studios like Laika and Cartoon Saloon still.

[@SuperSigma69]

The way paco, the monkey, later on felt sorry for Pinocchio and stuck with him till the end was very beautiful

[@sonicfanboy3375]

@@SuperSigma69 the Monkey's name was Spazzatura

[@WiseArkAngel]

All Quiet on the Western Front was an excellent example of this. This movie looks like it is one of the few good ones. We should enjoy them while they last.

[@brushtrainreels7117]

Art isn’t dead, it’s in the hands of smaller artist and artist who don’t want to make quick cash-ins

[@Bryzola]

I love how it's implied, but never confirmed, that Pinocchio has Carlo's soul but he is not really "Carlo", like when he sings the song Gepetto used to sing to Carlo and how the sphinx death goddess says she feels like she have seen him before when she sees Pinnochio for the first time.

[@ivanelugo]

I think Carlo and Pinocchio had the same voice

[@shenzyreal]

She literally calls him "the little wooden boy *with the borrowed soul"* when she catches wind of what's up. Really interesting, the way they went about it.

[@dannylee2729]

@Ivan Lugo yup, Carlo and Pinnochio were both voiced by Gregory Mann

[@dannylee2729]

@shenzy Right! So I definitely think it's Carlos soul, but maybe he's been away from the Earthly plane for too long, and maybe forgot a lot of stuff, but remembered the songs, and especially his love for Gepetto

[@rabbitmaze]

hmmm interesting! It makes so many more questions pop up now. Like....whats the meaning of a soul? what makes a soul? can a soul change or become something new? Because I see carlos and Pinocchio as two totally separate people. I don't like to see them as being both carlos. It's like he made a new soul for himself? idk. e_e

[@joaquinceriani5033]

Something I really liked was the "Carlo was a good boy, he obeyed me" when Carlo literally died because of not obeying him, he was still a child and Gepetto carries so mush grief and regret because he thinks he didn't discipline Carlo enough to listen when it was important. This movie really is good at exploring a grieving character

[@georgeeastwood6930]

It did a better job with Geppetto’s tragic backstory of losing his human son better than Disney.

[@agelessbeing8641]

If I am remembering correctly he did not disobey him, he just returned to get his pinecone. Did he tell him not to? I remember him just blanking out looking at the sky.

[@agelessbeing8641]

But either way a good boy is not necessarily a perfect boy, and a good boy is the best you can ask for.

[@georgeeastwood6930]

@@agelessbeing8641 I do too.

[@macattac716]

Something that I noticed about the main antagonist is that when we first see him it’s his silhouette viewing him from behind. His hair made him look like he had fox ears, like the fox in disneys Pinocchio, but when we see him in the light he’s a human. His hair is a cool reference to the fox ears, plus he has orange hair like a fox and you can faintly see white on the tips of it. I just thought it was a cool detail and felt like sharing

[@gumbowel]

Volpe translates to fox

[@brightwafi1291]

It's a reference to the potrayal of foxes in old folk tale being cunning, sly and deceiving others for they're selfish gains

[@Sorcerers_Apprentice]

His sword-cane is also topped with the brass head of a fox.

[@AJ-ey4ev]

His nose kind looks like a fox snout also you have yo appreciate the derail and effort putting these minor but symbolic points in their film

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

I thought his hair looked more like devil horns. Alluding to his character as a trickster and a deceiving person

[@Millencyne800]

I think it’s easy for the father to forget his 1st son carlo had years to become a “good boy” but Pinocchio is literally a newborn being and is actively learning what it means to be a good person. His outward older appearance makes it hard to really see this.

[@kymo6343]

I think it's more his outwardly wooden appearance that makes it hard to see it... XD

[@micahcook2408]

Ooooo, along with the “projecting personalities/behaviors onto your other ‘different’/rebellious children” trope, that relationship between them also feels like an allegory for foster-parenting and/or adopting older children as well… damn. Good job well done, Del Toro. Is making me think of “Once on this Island”…

[@genericname2747]

He's actually quite nice for a baby

[@riymeep6708]

I also assumed that Geppetto had chosen to only remember the good qualities of his son. After Carlo died, he was remembered for being a well-behaved and sweet boy and not for any of his flaws, so when Geppetto compares Pinnochio to Carlo, he's actually comparing him to a glorified and idealized version of Carlo instead of who Carlo truly was.

[@ashtimbog]

@@riymeep6708 this is what I thought too

[@mr.whimsic6902]

It feels bizarre to see all these Pinocchios come out and the last one is actually the best.

[@thecaptain6520]

Third time's the charm

[@STICKOMEDIA]

It's awesome

[@thatpersonsmusic]

Ok these bots are seriously getting out of control. KZbin should just ban the phrase “Here is the full clip” because it never seems to be used for good

[@Kamina.D.Fierce]

"Best for last" as the saying goes. Cracks me up how they literally fit the saying "The Good (Del Torro's), the Bad (Disney's live action remake), and the ugly (the Paulie Shore one).

[@Uncle_Smidge]

Took the longest, the most care, and the most thought. XD

[@baryardeni9731]

This adaptation of Pinocchio is the Disney remake done right. Not to mention how difficult it is to turn a fairytale story into a dark drama. This is without any doubt the best Pinocchio adaptation since the 1940’s Disney classic.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Most original fairy tales are dark, but the "Disney way" most modern kids are raised on just isn't dark. What was really cool is you could tell every shift Del Turo made in the original story (not the Disney version, but the original text) was intentional and that he was fully committed to neither be loyal entirely to the familiar (Disney) or classic book/serial. But to take the themes and tell something cool. And that's what makes it a great film really. Disney litterally couldn't do this film, because as much as people complain about unoriginality in the remakes it also can't stray to far or people will also complain. This version can only be done by a non-Disney company.

[@Earthium]

The majority of fairy tales that Disney covered were written by The Brother's Grimm and are very very dark. They would make perfect dark dramas but everyone thinks they are kids tales because of Disney.

[@baryardeni9731]

@@Earthium Yeah, but Pinocchio is a different story. It got a lot of adaptations, including Disney, of course, but I think this one has to be the darkest of all.

[@champthechimp]

@МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 cool checkmark

[@lockerbuddy2039]

I don't think it's too hard cuz most old fairy tales are really dark! Like from what I recall, in the OG Cinderella, one of Cinderella's sisters cut off two of her toes or something in an effort to fit her foot in the glass slipper. Old fairy tales were wild

[@jerrodgraham5970]

Sure the songs are forgettable, but at least don’t forget Pinocchio's GOD TIER singing voice! It blew me away how good a singer Gregory Mann is, all the songs he sings are easily my favorite from the film

[@georgeeastwood6930]

The song “Ciao Papa” was beautiful & gave me goosebumps. I also loved Geppetto’s song “My Son” when we se him & Carlo live a life together before he died.

[@kitsuu6677]

What do you mean??? I LOVED the songs!

[@meriewanderer]

They're not catchy, but they deliver and touch souls

[@madelinefowler6251]

*Spoilers* love candle wick so much. As a person who struggles to find acceptance from the people around me I really connected with this character. I wish candle wick could have lived in the end, but I see how his story arc served it’s purpose in the main storyline. It’s so heart breaking seeing these kids struggle. Guillermo did an amazing job. I hope to see more movies like this in the future.

[@littlemoth4956]

The way your comment is worded makes it seem like he dies. I don’t think that’s what happens.

[@stormbreak7003]

@@littlemoth4956 to be fair the last time we see him is him calling out for Pinocchio while there is a literal battle in the background and we never see him or mentioned again. Not only that but he was at the camp to train to be a soldier so he is inexperienced (along with losing Pinocchio and his father) and the enemy would have easily gotten him if the bombs didn't get him by then. Which is why most people assume he is dead, me included even though I wish we saw alive in the aftermath.

[@yourlocaldemon2195]

I’m stubborn af so I’m just sticking out hope that he is still alive and eventually he’ll see Pinocchio again :’)

[@laurenaspreyart]

I would’ve loved to have a scene at the end after Pinocchio has lost everyone where he goes out into the world and reunites with an older candlewick (in his 20’s/30s) and they each have a missing limb. From the whale explosion and the bombing of the training camp respectively.

[@yourlocaldemon2195]

@@laurenaspreyart AHH YES

[@archierm]

I have seen so many Pinochio adaptation, this is legitimately the first one that broke me. When Sebastian protested to the wood spirit/blue fairy that Pinochio's death was not fair and that he was definitely a good boy, it felt so real and raw.

[@Wheja_sciart]

That's one of the great things about del Toro as a director. When he makes a movie, he puts his SOUL into it to make the most genuine work he can do. It shows for every project of his.

[@tiamystic]

Ikr!

[@kattastic9999]

Just reading this comment made me remember the way he cries "Because he was _good!"_ and now I'm crying again

[@victorhernandez8723]

It sounded like Ewan MacGregor was on the verge of legit crying.

[@Hik4rol]

The part that got me was Sebastian being mad at Gepetto for calling Pinocho a burden. Man that hit close to home. I wish a Sebastian was there for me years ago.

[@inkyparadox9764]

I cried so much watching this, and not just because it was sad. Every scene was obviously lovingly crafted with care and so many hearts and minds went into this project. Regardless of if it gets the recognition it truly deserves Del Toro should be proud as fuck.

[@abrahamnarvaez1730]

Knowing it’s stop motion adds so much to it because every piece of dirt moves because someone wanted it there and looking the balloons float was so mundane but beautiful because it didn’t need to be there but they did it and I just love it for it.

[@Thatonegirl989]

I 100% agree. It was so beautiful. I’ve heard a lot of people calling it boring but I thought it was pretty engaging.

[@JargonMadjin]

@@abrahamnarvaez1730 Honestly, stop motion has always impressed me. It takes a lot of work, frame by frame, subtle movements, something that can take months or even years to finish and the result is interesting to look at with that knowledge in mind. Even early stop motion is interesting to look at, the jarring and uncanny movement of early stop motion can be otherworldly

[@ayo69420]

Yesterday my parents were watching the making of and they were amazed at how much detail every single frame has. Now they comprehend why I adore stop motion with all my heart ❤️

[@theenderkirby]

Report the channel @МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 is a self promotion bot

[@ThePickledAuthor]

This is a re-imagining done right in every way. He took a story and built INTO it, instead of changing what made it what it was into something entirely different like a lot of these "remakes" nowadays. The stop motion is just incredibly well done, too!

[@theenderkirby]

Hey bro you got 3 self promotion bots can you report their channels?

[@ThePickledAuthor]

@@theenderkirby Yeeeeah, these freakin' things pop up on any comments near the top. Annoying, for sure!

[@theenderkirby]

@@ThePickledAuthor reporting thier channels and gathering comments to tell them to do the same is the way to corner them down

[@meooooooooooo]

Yes

[@NobodyC13]

I feel like del Toro is interrogating the original story's themes of "obey your parents and authority figures lest you succumb to a horrible fate" by asking "what if Pinocchio's story took place in a time where parents are just as misguided or corrupt and authority figures equally so, as well as not respecting you as an individual?"

[@logicerrormusic]

This movie hit all the right spots for me. The beginning was sad but not overdone, Geppetto creating Pinocchio while he was drunk af felt real, and even their relationship in the beginning felt even more real, with Geppetto learning to love this 'thing' that suddenly came to life. Pinocchio then wasn't a total cringefest like with Disney or the worst person ever like in Collodi's tale, it was a white sheet of paper that watched the world in an honest, even if sometimes disrespectful way. The ending when he didn't became a real kid but a mortal being really got me, it's so deep on so many levels that freaking hurts. This movie deserves all the praise it gets, truly one of the best things of this year.

[@colleen4ever]

Isn;t a mortal being a kid?!

[@brightwafi1291]

@@colleen4ever The immortality he was given never made it so he couldnt die, just being brought back after. After being brought back on the shore by the fairy, he's finally on his last, real life.

[@aimeebintang]

I think the immortal part about him is that, he can't age. If he get shot or get into an accident he could die permanently this time (atleast that's what i think)

[@QUBIQUBED]

@@aimeebintang he could. He might also grow old, we don't know.

[@aimeebintang]

@@QUBIQUBED yeah, i mean, i myself haven't seen anyone who worked on the movie confirms anything about Pinocchio's immortality ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ (sorry for bad grammar)

[@SwedishSinologyNerd]

The fact we never got Del Toro's The Hobbit is honestly a crime against humanity. Still holding out for his In the Mountains of Madness! Also, I love how Del Toro mixes absolutely brutal parts of history with fairy tale elements in both Pan's Labyrinth and Pinocchio, the man's a genius.

[@Lazysupermutant]

Apparently in his anthology series he did it! Episode 6 from what I'm told, not a full movie but I think it's the closest we're gonna get.

[@DinggisKhaaniMagtaal]

del Toro is certainly a genius when it comes to world building, but as far as storytelling and themes I've found most of his films to be middle of the road at best. I remember being disappointed in Pan's Labyrinth and it's been a while so I can't get specific but I remember feeling that the fascist father figure got cartoonishly evil. If I remember correctly, it's a black and white story, and while fascism is certainly one of the darkest things you can get from humanity, painting the opposing side of the Spanish Civil War as unambiguously good is ignorant at best (and certainly leaves out the brutality of history carried out by them), although once again it's been a while since I saw that film. I can certainly say that about The Shape of Water, where the whole film got really weird with its characters it felt like, not only with the cartoonishly evil villain, but I bring it up because I remember recalling the same feeling when I watched the latter film more recently with my girlfriend. This movie, I believe to be a truly excellent film in every facet. I try my best to reserve the word genius in most cases when talking about people, but I can definitely say that the movie itself is genius indeed. It's downright beautiful.

[@wobblewokgaming655]

Okay, but I love how they integrated the design of biblicallly accurate angels into the Blue Fairy's design. Like, look at all of them peepers she has.

[@bepinkfloyd814]

Yeah that stuff was amazing, i was so happy i smoked a fat joint of hashish before watch the movie, i was tripping balls the whole time.

[@lance5445]

Look at ALL of Del Toro's other works, he loves making designs and just adding extra eyes onto everything. Man knows what he likes

[@mr.greasy6483]

As soon as I saw the hundreds of eyes I knew that was the inspiration, biblically accurate angels are so cool

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Beautiful indirect Evangelion and Mazinger influence too! The Netflix film’s characters all look a bit #animesque, indicating that there’s also a tiny bit of Kikaider in them all.

[@shellbeebo]

Exactly what I thought

[@ToonSkribblez]

I like that this version of Pinocchio shows us that being obedient isn't always a good thing. That it's important to question authority. Because sometimes those in charge don't always have good intentions.

[@colleen4ever]

*cough* Biden *cough*

[@mega_Boi2004]

@@colleen4ever 👴🏻

[@genericname2747]

@@colleen4ever bro this is a Pinocchio comment section

[@melaniey.5596]

@@colleen4ever curiously, the one banning books in schools are the Republicans

[@kittipotatoart3420]

I was actually terrified by the body movements of Pinocchio when you see him in the attic. And I loved the father and son relationship. I could relate to a lot of the themes. When geppetto told Pinocchio "why aren't you like my son why can't you just be like him" and I felt that because I said that to my current cat who was a lot meaner than my first cat. It's hard on both trying to force someone to be someone they aren't. 100/10 movie favorite movie of 2022. Made me cry.

[@selalewow]

I love the voice work for Pinocchio. The actor toed the line of annoying but never quite crossed it. Too many times they go to the whiny, bratty, grating voice, but I really enjoyed listening to this movie. All the voice actors were amazing.

[@gengarghast]

Oh, I ADORED how Pinnochio just fucking scurried across the ground lmao

[@Creative_mess4]

@@selalewow I think the same voice actor voiced young stolas in helluva boss. I really love his voice and I am amazed by his talent

[@selalewow]

@@Creative_mess4 OMG I think you are right. I checked and it is not, but they are very similar voices.

[@renoirrr]

my sis, dad and i saw pinocchio in the attic and we all suddenly went “what the fuck” 💀

[@therooster2734]

I liked that Pinocchio’s lives kinda represented what I think life would have been for a kid during the war. A normal kid loving under the gasística rule. A performer or a kid that works for money during the war. And the kids that got drafted and were sent to war. Three great perspectives

[@egg_bun_]

Love this point!!

[@AdriOfTheDead]

I was so sad that Wendell and Wild kind of tripped over its own feet, story wise because it started out so strong and looked incredible throughout. :(

[@micahcook2408]

Yeah it seems like and feels like there was more planned (or even planned as a series or two-parter it felt like) and most of it was cut and hastily put together. It’s not entirely terrible though (if at all) and the performances and animation is great, but definitely just felt as if they had let go of a lot to tie everything together.

[@AA-cf4es]

I'm glad it didn't do well. It's full of misogynistic "trans" shit.

[@Nightman221k]

Wendell and Wild had so many characters and plot points that it felt like it meant to be a whole damn miniseries but it only ended up with a fraction of the time.

[@Nightman221k]

@@wafflepin I loved the characters in Wendell and Wild. If they had made it a miniseries, it would've been cool to learn about the backstory of the nun and the groundskeeper cause they were easily the most intriguing characters.

[@CravenWolf1986]

The one film where the poop joke doesn't piss me off, and because it felt warranted. It was petty revenge for being abused. Honestly, it's the best film I've seen all year. I loved everything about it. And while the musical moments haven't really stuck in my mind that much, I still find them absolutely charming. My boyfriend and I found ourselves sobbing by the end of it, and wishing that we could hug every single person in the film credits (and anyone uncredited) for creating this work of art. Heck, we even cried through the "making of" special on Netflix, too.

[@Iacedrom54]

It's also a 10 year old boy kind of revenge. Kids find toilet humor funny, of course that's what a young, immature boy would use to make fun of a dictator.

[@Sylvatic98]

also he gets shot after

[@LB-py9ig]

@@Sylvatic98 by order of freaking Benito Mussolini

[@sonicfanboy3375]

@@LB-py9ig voiced by SpongeBob SquarePants

[@KaraTheGirlie]

@@sonicfanboy3375 he's voiced by Kenny?!

[@Gwen1661]

I think even the poop song is very fitting in the movie because it is explicitedly directed AT mussolini and what he stands for. the creative team gave him no chances to create an impact and immediately showed him for what he is. and i think that's a brilliant move, very jojo rabbit of them

[@ivanleon6164]

my daughter was laughing the entire song, lmao.

[@Sorcerers_Apprentice]

It also wasn't just a poop/fart joke for it's own sake, Pinocchio sings it to sabotage Count Volpe. Mussolini then responds the way he would have in real life, by ordering his guard to shoot Pinocchio and burn down the circus.

[@ivanleon6164]

@@Sorcerers_Apprentice adult reviewers really think is all about them, is a story for kids, my daughter was laughing so hard in that part, is a song made by a little kid not by a grown adult expert in music, wtf.

[@samreddig8819]

@@ivanleon6164 it appeals to both. That's what makes it good.

[@animeotaku307]

@@Sorcerers_ApprenticePlus, Pinocchio is a child. Of course he’s going to say “let’s replace most of these words with poop and farts and I can ride on a big poop!”

[@adiveler]

Now we finally have the complete series for Pinocchio 2022: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

[@stavkous4963]

This one was actually the more accurate The good, the bad, and the accurate

[@Luyvnni]

@@stavkous4963 Which 2022 Pinocchio movie was the good then ?

[@Choomba78]

@@stavkous4963 But all of them had pretty major changes from the original story, so none of them were accurate.

[@ride-playerbb2818]

@@stavkous4963 you say that as if either of the other 2 Pinocchios are the good

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

"The good, the bad, and the worldussy."

[@DI-QueenmoEMino]

As someone who has never cared for the 1940s Disney Pinocchio even as a kid, Guillermo del Toro's iteration is what finally made me fall in love with this classic tale. Seriously I personally believe that this version of the Pinocchio story is by far the best one and most decent, actually well put together interpretation of this old story. I've loved how much more in-depth this movie was in terms of the tone and themes of the film, with how it went more into Gepetto relationship with his son Carlo and showed their father & son bond and how dearly he loved his son before his death. It being set in fascist Italy with Mussolini's and how the fantasy aspect is used to confront it instead of escaping that harsh reality, the movie themes of death and loss also grief and the ending itself which made me pretty real emotional which doesn't happen a lot. For real Del Toro's Pinocchio is truly a fantastic made treat like I really loved this movie.

[@karolinakuc4783]

Another Pinocchio adaptation in this climate is Japanese series from 1972

[@BroGodZillaa]

same

[@melaniey.5596]

I couldn’t agree more, specially about the pet of using fantasy to confront reality instead for escapism. I loved the genius of Del Toro of using the magic of one of Italy’s more famous stories, to confront one of Italy’s darkest moments in history.

[@melodyscorpion6606]

Agreed

[@Toonami24]

Netflix Pinocchio is very worst than Disney Pinocchio which the Disney versions are way better and very appropriate for children and everyone from young to old adults. The Netflix pinocchio is very inappropriate and not good for kids to watch that at all. That’s a fact

[@zeroraptor_]

Del Toro's use of a youth boot camp is rather appropriate, as it accomplishes the same idea of Pleasure Island being a space for kids to mimic adult behavior. I also consider this my favorite interpretation of Pinocchio. Having Gepetto and the cricket go through their own character growth in addition to Pinocchio was a refreshing take on the story.

[@Sorcerers_Apprentice]

The youth camp also follows the spirit of Pleasure Island, in that young boys are being promised fun and games. But the real goal is turning them into expendable labor or soldiers to serve the powerful.

[@gothnerd887]

​@@Sorcerers_Apprenticethere's another Pinocchio movie no-one talks about because it's not as good as Del Toro's but not as bad as the Disney remake. Pinocchio 3000 is a sci fi retelling where Pleasure Island is a theme park that turns kids into robots.

[@milotheprocat]

I actually find it funny how there was never a whale in the original story, but because of Disney's version everyone includes the whale :,) 🧡

[@chillax319]

This time the "whale" design is really close to the monsters from the old maps shown where sea is.

[@milotheprocat]

@@chillax319 yeah, it looks pretty good! Although I wish there was a version where it was closer to the original dogfish version, I’d say that this is alright :]

[@reliktim]

Well, it was a whale-size shark in original book

[@keyaunna.]

the dogfish creature that was named in the adaptation was actually in the original story!!

[@jeremyroberts9065]

The Terrible Dogfish was very much part of the original story (though it was a shark-like creature, not a whale).

[@Princessmisery]

GDT should ABSOLUTELY invest in making more animations like this one. He’s one of the rare gems in the big industry who actually cares about the craft of animation. More than disney and that’s saying something!

[@Xenderman]

*invest (you got a really unfortunate spelling mistake there)

[@Princessmisery]

@@Xenderman fixed it in time lol

[@captainch6182]

@@Princessmisery what was the original spelling? Now I’m curious

[@gumbowel]

@@captainch6182 incest 🥲

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

@@captainch6182 guess we’ll never know

[@ladyalmathea7610]

This is hands down my favorite version of Pinocchio! It's so dramatic, so much darker... But that's what makes it all the better!

[@Gastrictuba]

Even the lowbrow potty humor makes sense once you realize that all the insults were written by Pinocchio a child it’s a fantastic movie I love the biblically correct angelic design to the fairy’s with all the eyes in their design

[@profesorarumeysa462]

"a biblically accurate angel" jajaja

[@georgeeastwood6930]

That was revenge against Count Volpe for mistreating Spazzatura (probably the other carnival workers as well) & to poke fun of a real-life dictator who was essentially the “Hitler of Italy”. The title in the background of the deface Mussolini poster translates as “His Escrament” while “Puzzo” means “stinky”. 🤣 god that was hilarious!

[@doodlebug7]

I think the way he acted in this movie was actually pretty realistic considering the circumstances. He was quite literally born yesterday. He's pretty much a baby if babies had the physical capabilities of a ten year old. He doesn't understand "breakable" or "nuance".

[@angiefluffybootz7815]

You think this is messed up, you should read the unabridged translation. In the first few chapters Pinnochio has Geppeto arrested for child abuse, burns off his feet, and kills the cricket with a hammer. In the original serialization, he was hung for his innumerable faults, and is killed. The publisher forced Collodi to continue writing, however, and add 21 more chapters because of how popular the book was.

[@zebefreod871]

Yeah, the original pinocchio was wild and its first message was "teach your kids to behave or they'll get killed sooner or later" 😬

[@krgatshe3810]

A LOT of old fairy tales are like that. Seriously, the brothers Grimm wote some dark stuff.

[@Zodia195]

Sheesh writing more stories? Sounds like a similar situation of L. Frank Baum who only wanted to write the one story (Wizard of Oz), but had to keep writing more.

[@BJGvideos]

@@krgatshe3810 This isn't really all that old compared to others

[@HawkThunder907]

This gets straight to the point

[@combatking0]

Sebastian Cricket: "It's over, Mannequin, I have the high ground!" Pinocchio: "You underestimate my lack of strings!"

[@TheLazyFusspot_3428]

I had strings but now I'm free...

[@AndooKami]

Really loved this movie and it's probably the best version I've seen of Pinocchio for sure. The "Ciao Papa" song was the highlight for me. The kid's voice actor for Pinocchio sung that song so beautifully and it made me tear up just a little bit due to how emotional that musical number was. Solid 10/10 movie experience in my eyes.

[@MillyKKitty]

The kid has a really good voice. Loved his first song because it reslly does sound like a curious innocent kid but with a good singing voice

[@ema05lele20]

I agree but don't write ciao papà that way because papa is pope in Italian

[@roxassora2706]

I legit cried 3 times

[@Pollicina_db]

*ciao papà

[@AndooKami]

@@ema05lele20 My apologies I do not have the best English spelling.

[@IvanCastañedaFilms]

The ending really got me in tears, I have a strong relationship with my dad. It’s really symbolic to what both sides don’t have in common and do. All adaptations from this fairytale explain the journey of a wooden boy who discovers what’s good and bad in life. This one turned out to reimagine the same idea to war, what to obey and what not. War doesn’t have an age to be told, it happens as danger does. Really great movie!

[@videosammy]

The ending was unexpected for me. But not unwelcome. Its the kind of movie that makes me think of my mortality and how i want to live my time on this earth. Definitely worth the wait. You can definitely see the love and passion that was behind this project with every single scene. If they make a dvd with special features ill definitely buy 😊

[@mikusmom]

Same because I literally don't want pay a subscription just for one movie.

[@QUBIQUBED]

@@mikusmom there is free trial no?

[@ASLBec]

They did make a Criterion edition!

[@videosammy]

@@ASLBec awesome 😁😁

[@funkybones]

This movie is one I wish I had as a kid, growing up in a broken home with a bipolar father who was emotionally abusive. It was a very rough time getting by, and that exchange between Pinocchio and Candlewick was very emotional and special to me. I feel like that would've really helped me understand what was going on. I'm very happy this movie is being talked about alot and hope we can get more animated features with more mature theming like this!

[@KikuChalkz]

from what i've seen so far, del toro's works have flourished on netflix so i'm glad they actually decided to buy the movie for their streaming service. honestly one of the better choices netflix has made.

[@theenderkirby]

Blitz can you report @whaaa t's channel for hos self promption?

[@theenderkirby]

And @@briannaalexa9071 too?

[@AeridisArt]

@@theenderkirby these are bots. Squash one and three will pop up. Best to just ignore them rather than be slaves to reporting them.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Del Toro made a really good film. And an Interesting trilogy series revolving around trolls, aliens, and wizards that was really well told. Until the “ending” but I digress.

[@KikuChalkz]

@@bearerofbadnews1375 I don't quite remember everything that happened in them but they were very interesting in terms of story, enough to keep me hooked at least

[@StygiusNix]

My mum wanted to watch the Disney live action one (it's got Tom Hanks in it so it must be good) and I warned her that it isn't great. We watched it and she said it was nothing like the book since the book actually had a message. I said about this new Netflix one coming soon at the time, and now we're going to watch it this weekend. From what I've seen of it and behind the scenes, I'm really impressed. UPDATE!: I made time to watch it with her this evening and she said she prefers the old animated Disney version, but this one was different in a good way and was very clever. Personally, I haven't seen the original but I plan to one day next time we reinstate our Disney+. I think this stop motion one had a more pronounced message to it that I think everyone can relate to. I like that it didn't hold back on heavy subjects like war and mortality. Visually it was great despite the somewhat creepy designs and particularly enjoyed the visualisation of the two spirits.

[@SpongebobLover38493]

that totally happened

[@geojjsoak4]

@@SpongebobLover38493 So you're saying the live action Pinocchio is... Good?

[@Waltersop]

Thé 2017 live action one (Italian) is very solid

[@phillemon7664]

@@geojjsoak4they’re a robot, programmed by Disney to think uncritically and believe nothing happened unless they agree with it.

[@MillyKKitty]

Interested in hearing how she liked it after seeing it!

[@jsk-art]

One thing I found really interesting in terms of creative visual choices is the materials they used for Pinocchio vs Gepetto and a lot of the other human characters. Pinocchio throughout the film has subsurface scattering. This is something that's usually brought up in digital 3d, as it's important to know how to recreate this effect, but depending on the materials you use, it can be implemented in stop motion. Basically, it's when light slightly shines through something and you can see the colors from inside. Like when you hold a flashlight up to your hand and you can see red shining through it. You can see it a lot in Pinocchio, especially in his nose and ears, but less in Gepetto, even though Pinocchio is made out of wood, (which would not have this effect) and Gepetto is made out of flesh, (which would.). It makes Pinocchio look and seem a lot more alive than the other characters in the movie.

[@Pawprint19]

There's a half-hour long "making of" that netflix did for this movie, and its wonderful. The puppeteers had already physically created the villain for the movie (closer to the puppetmaster guy from the disney movie) but del toro wanted to go with Vulpe instead. So the original main villain's puppet is a background character instead! He's the strongman at the circus.

[@toms.a.savage7232]

Honestly the right call in the long run. Volpe is fresh and brings new layers to the Pinocchio story. I also liked how the monkey was jealous of Pinocchio's success and tried to get rid of him by telling the truth about Volpe not sending the money to Geppetto. When the monkey is getting beaten by Volpe, Pinocchio actually stands up for his "co-star" and this allows the monkey to eventually be an ally to Pinocchio throughout the rest of the film.

[@lukky6648]

Stop motion is one of the hardest form of media to make so its not surprising when people who make motion capture movies actually spend that crazy amount of time making a great and meaningful story and i love it. Stop motion shows like Shaun the sheep has always been a huge part of my childhood and i love that its still alive and respected. I'll definitely love this one too

[@theenderkirby]

Lukky you got here self promotion bots just report thier channels

[@thefluffygenius4857]

Oh my god I stayed to see the end because I was so curious if this was cgi, or actually stop-motion Man I'd say we've come far, they really took their time on it!

[@cramerfloro5936]

Like Gerundiopresente blog mentioned, by having Pinocchio take place during the Era of Fascism, the story comes closer to another italian classic of children literature, "il giornalino di Gian Burrasca" (The journal of Johnny Tempest), which also was released episodically, before being published, and which also pokes at the society of its time. Also, both the Fairy and Death here are technically angels. And, both technically aren't, since their designs are based on creatures that are related to angels, so they often all get collectively called "angels": the Fairy is a Seraph, with many wings to hide her face and body. They usually sing praises to the Lord and such. Death instead is a Cherub, a sphinx-like creature made up of many different animals, which usually guard sacred things like the Garden Eden or the Ark of the Covenant!

[@hilariousbenjamin5614]

I hadn't thought about a comparison with Gian Burrasca, and Del Toro's Pinocchio being even closer to it, that's brilliant! Also because children's literature essays usually do that as well (comparing and contrasting Collodi's and Vamba's kinds of social commentary etc VS. for example De Amicis etc etc). Very fascinating! (I'd so pay Del Toro to make a stop motion Gian Burrasca)

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Pinocchio in this movie was essentially a newborn given the instant ability to walk and talk. So unlike (10 year old?) Carlo, he didn't have all those living years of learning to become "a good boy". I really like that. He was way more like a toddler let loose then Carlo was because he was litterally 'just born'. Most toddlers and newborns are curious because they've never seen the world before so everything is new and facinating. Anyone who's watched a baby or toddler who has just learned to crawl or walk knows the pain of having to watch them every second because they now can access all the new-to-them curiosities. I still love the Disney Pinocchio (original animated version, not the CGI remake). But I really loved that Del Turo totally abandoned even the echo of Disney and actually did something different. I mean Geppetto actually made the boy puppet in a drunken stupper. That was wild.

[@Mathilde_Bruhn]

I LOVE what they did with the puppeteer in this version! Especially his design! Adding the fox characteristics isn't just a way of showing that he embodies both the role of the puppeteer and fox in this story, but the long, snout-like nose also serves as a way to symbolize that he is dishonest

[@bluefoxgalaxy6057]

Fun fact, Del Toro made his version of the circus master human instead of fox because he wanted to switch things up a bit. But he did add some recognizable things onto his circus master like red/ ginger hair resemble fox fur, the two big spikey tufts of hair on his head resemble fox ears, and his general attitude all resemble Disney’s fox circus master. He also has a coat around his body made of fox fur.

[@georgeeastwood6930]

On top of that, “Volpe” is literally the Italian word for “fox”. 😊

[@bluefoxgalaxy6057]

@@georgeeastwood6930 Lol

[@impcityangel3245]

He also has a cane in the shape of a fox head.

[@bluefoxgalaxy6057]

@@impcityangel3245 OhI never noticed that! Nice discovery!

[@CirrusCen]

I love Del Toro’s works so much (Pan’s Labyrinth is still one of my favorite movies of all time) and I’m excited by his fresher take and characterization of Pinocchio and Geppetto

[@theenderkirby]

Cirrus can you report @whaaa t's channel for his self promotion?

[@daniel0atk]

OH. MY. GOD. The storytelling, the stop motion, the acting... everything was absolutely amazing. Del Toro is such an amazing director, and I absolutely love it. I don't normally cry, but this hit me much harder than I thought it would. This has got to be my favorite adaptation by far.

[@exlibris5772]

I want to aknowledge the people from Taller del Chucho here in Guadalajara, who also worked on some scenes from the film, specifically the ones in the underworld. Mexican talent regarding animation is slowly but surely getting the attention it deserves in the medium.

[@gumbowel]

😁🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

[@ProffesionalZombie12]

As an art nerd I actually found the Count to be a very memorable character, mostly by virtue of his design and how fluid/precise his movements are as a stop motion character. LOVED watching him on screen.

[@Z3r0_g]

I really loved the land of the dead, it was just so beautifully designed. Edit: All of the poop jokes in that one scene were actually to be expected since Pinocchio himself (a literal child) came up with it.

[@Wheja_sciart]

I just saw this on Monday, and I had an absolute blast with it. I do want to talk about something at the end, so SPOILERS below! It was interesting how certain story beats ended up very similar to Disney's remake, but enough other things were changed so that those beats actually worked. For instance, both Geppettos say something like "I'm sorry I convinced you that I wanted a different son. You're perfect the way you are." I rolled my eyes at that in Disney's version because, no, he didn't. That Geppetto was a model father for a son they basically turned into a superhero. Yes, his old son was mentioned at the beginning, but it's never depicted as a character motivation again. This one, however, actually has flaws. He does originally hate Pinocchio and carries his loss and grief throughout most of his scenes. Also, Pinocchio has failings, not just morally, but there are things his wooden body can't do. It breaks and burns easily. He looks twisted and deformed. He has to risk dying permanently to save Geppetto's life. Then, when the old man apologizes, it actually means something and feels like a good conclusion for both characters' arcs.

[@sunisea6438]

I’m half-convinced that someone at Disney heard about Del Toro’s reworking (especially since it was in development hell and passed around Hollywood) and they rushed out their remake with some of the same story beats, like the dead son backstories, the not-a-real-boy endings etc. Maybe it was an effort to try and keep the Pinocchio concept “theirs” culturally if not legally. Rushing would explain the terrible animation and plot holes of the Disney remake. Also, the monkey’s motor tail? Remake-Pinnochio’s motor feet? At that point I was like, come on guys. At least try to be subtle.

[@Wheja_sciart]

@@sunisea6438 I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. It's usually down to cheaper studios to do the mockbuster thing (which we already got this year, funnily enough), but Disney's PR has been so scummy lately that I wouldn't put it past them to try to "claim" all fairytale stories.

[@Ganondorfdude11]

If this isn't nominated for Best Animated Feature at the Oscars we riot.

[@theonlychickensama8353]

Bruh what if they nominate the Disney remake lol 💀

[@gamehero6816]

@@theonlychickensama8353 we riot twice, then.

[@agolul4592]

@@gamehero6816 We burn Disney 😡

[@GabrialParker]

@@gamehero6816 yes

[@jexuhsjs0473]

imma join to the riot ppl

[@KrayZee_art]

This movie was very fun to watch! I actually enjoyed the different approach they did with the story and characters. It wasn't all fantasy, but just normal people witnessing a sudden talking puppet, which to me had more impact. The music was great, the characters were great, the animation was stunning. I was a little sad that there wasn't a donkey scene, because damn, that would look so cool and terrifying in this art style. Anyway, a fantastic film!

[@umarthdc]

The donkey scene was the fascist training camp, they were being turned into donkeys in a more figurative way.

[@StardustWhip]

I don't think the donkey scene as it existed in the original story would work with the themes of Del Toro's Pinocchio. The Adventures of Pinocchio was a very pro-obedience fable; the moral of the story was that you should obey your parents and follow the rules, or else horrible things would happen to you. Hence the Land of Toys; Candlewick and all the other kids skipped school and refused to listen to their parents, so their comeuppance was to be transformed into donkeys and sent off to do thankless exhausting grunt work. Candlewick even reappears later on to die from exhaustion and injuries inflicted by his owner, right in front of Pinocchio. Meanwhile, Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio goes in the opposite direction and paints blind obedience as a potentially dangerous thing, especially when your parents are misguided by personal issues and/or your government is corrupt. It's treated as a noble thing for Candlewick to stand up to his father, rather than obeying his orders in the hope of getting his approval.

[@luarana_alba]

They do turn into donkies, metaphorically and from the visual cue of being given the gas masks: the sides of the masks flopped like ears and the respirators became the snouts. It's very clever narratively and visually.

[@TheLazysketcher]

A forgettable sountrack? THIS!? Ive got both Ciao Papa and Everything Is New stuck in my head since the movie released! Ive even tried to memorize the lyrics to Ciao Papa just cause i think its so remarkably beautiful! I seriously though that it was from some old play or opera or something at first.

[@PinoccThePiccolo]

Sameeee all of the songs are stuck in my head at all times of the day, it's been making it really hard to move along (because this movie broke me and while sometimes I'm very happy because of it other times I get so very sad), not that I necessarily want to forget this movie or anything. I'm definitely rewatching it.

[@aubryellaotero1064]

I think there’s a pretty direct comparison to Frankenstein when Pinocchio was brought to life, with the lightning in the background and everything. I think it’s a really solid analogy.

[@DaBlueIghuana]

It’s always weird to me when I hear Disney’s version referred to as “the original” because I grew up watching and reading the Soviet version of the story, which is very different. This movie seems to have pieces of it that are closer to the version I knew as a kid, for example, the main villain in the soviet version was also a puppet master, but he was described very differently from this one. Besides that, this is looking really good, the stop motion looks very well made!

[@thestripedmenace]

Is it true that "A True Story" is more of an adaptation of this Soviet version of Pinocchio than the original book?

[@DaBlueIghuana]

@@thestripedmenace haven’t watched it, so sorry, but can’t really tell you. From what I’ve heard it might’ve been but very butchered story-wise

[@roxassora2706]

I mean, they are usually talking about the films. But I agree.

[@nicolaberry9550]

This movie inspired me to read the original Pinocchio and you're entirely right. Pinocchio is a jerk, spoiled, brattish but occasionally he does show hints of sympathy. I definitely think Guillermo Del Toro took the original Pinocchio's character and expands upon it to create an engaging, childish character. He also took the themes and darkness and developed it incredibly. Instead of Pinocchio temperly hammering the cricket, he has a temper and outrights ignores him by slamming a door in his face. Also the spelling book - wow - perfect! In the book Pinocchio promises to attend school for feet after he burns them off, and is gifted the book after Gepetto sells his only coat in snowish weather, but in this movie its a symbol of Gepetto extending an olive branch to Pinocchio which Pinnochio ditches in favour of his own wants. Both Pinocchios do similar things but have different impacts, it's great. The changes incorporate the book and adapt it and I loved it! Definitely my new favourite stop-motion - I encourage people to read the book, I now just enjoy the movie more!

[@onepresence9460]

After watching this amazing movie, i would love if Guillermo Del Toro started to make Stop Motion animated feature films more often. Stop Motion totally fits with Del Toro’s storytelling and aesthetic.

[@janehates]

-The scene where Gepetto creates Pinocchio felt like a really good “Robot Chicken” bit, and then I found out that Shadow Machine made it and well that makes sense. -The poops and farts songs does make sense when you consider that it was written by Pinocchio himself. Definitely supposed to be cringily immature.

[@anaju3595]

I really like how in the ending we can see that Pinocchio grew. Not in body, but his soul is more mature, and we see and feel that by simply looking at him. *Spoiler alert* : I feel like Pinocchio finally got to understand what the death sphynx said about eternal suffering, carrying the burden of his loved one's deaths.

[@RedRidinghoodK5]

Between Pinnochio and Cabinet of Curiosities, Guillermo Del Toro is just reminding everyone that he's a fantastic direction with both wonderful whimsical ideas and stunning displays of deep dark spooky gothic ideas that make your skin crawl. Truly amazing.

[@dariushcreates]

Not only is this an actual good Pinocchio film in 2022 it’s actually Oscar worthy! Saw this at the BFI Film Festival with whole cast and crew. They were all clearly passionate. Gepetto stole the show btw. Brilliant VA

[@Crobat7269]

If this movie doesnt win an Oscar i will burn the world

[@AlanLaraLobo]

I just love how Del Toro's thoughts and quote really show and bring to life this film with so much love: "When I was a kid, I thought: So, to be loved we have to change?" "I couldn't accept it. It was clear to me he shouldn't ever become a real kid..."

[@auxiliomedesmayocallesevie1718]

As a hispanic it's really nice to see more of us doing great things.

[@softdrink-0]

There’s literally like half a billion of you. I think what you mean is that it’s nice to see you guys doing things in western media (which just so happens to be the most universally popular)

[@auxiliomedesmayocallesevie1718]

@@softdrink-0 yea idk how to words lmao. That is what I mean

[@Whofan06]

Feels like this movie captured Disney Pinocchio better then their own remake did. Charming and beautiful animation, strong and relatable themes, and not shying away from darker motifs.

[@bennyboiart7781]

I must confess that I felt a bit conflicted about the ending. On the one hand it seemed like it would be thematically appropriate for Pinocchio to die after going back to save Geppetto because (and I’m paraphrasing) “real boys don’t come back,” and in that way he’d become a “real” boy at last. On the other hand though, having Geppetto finally come to love and accept Pinocchio for who he was only to have him torn away just like Carlo (and, presumably, his wife before him) felt a bit harsh.

[@tyrese4673]

I love the fairy and the fairy sister they looked like biblical angels but without all the creepy eye stuff to it the colors and the design of the angels was awesome

[@scorpionsting90]

It's interesting that the biological kid is named Carlo... Like Collodi's first name, so I'm sure it's a decision to nudge and thank the author of the original story

[@nialvessal]

I can't tell you how happy I was as an Italian girl to see one of my childhood books FINALLY respected and explored. The choice to put Pinocchio in the events of WWII instead of keeping it in late 1800 allows for more interesting conflict with the themes of this movie and the more dark tone is fitting considering the original book is ANYTHING but child-friendly.

[@EagleVisionTFC]

The highest praise I can give to this version of Pinocchio is that every single frame is a painting/sculpture come to life. Just unreasonably beautiful.

[@Kazantha]

I will have to watch this at some point. Stop motion animation is so under utilized, but it is a type of media that is so stunning and can't be reproduced as easily. It has it's own charm and I love to see it making a comeback ^_^

[@theenderkirby]

Shalara can you report the channel of @whaaa t for being self promption bot?

[@CactusCowboyDan]

I'm part of a stop motion animator team in France working for the same studio that created "I Am A Cucumber" We went to see this on the big screen in Annecy. While I quite enjoyed it, most of my team was surprisingly disappointed. They gave it a 3 out of 10. Wow...... Their critiques were a mixed bag of not liking the animation style, puppet design or character development. Or just not understanding the message of the movie. I was stunned to hear them say all that. But at the same time I could understand their points. (or they were just being snobby)

[@SaltySeaStella]

Tried looking up and all I got was "My Life as a Zucchini", is this what you meant? Never watched it just curious.

[@CactusCowboyDan]

@@SaltySeaStella yeah that’s the one. They change the name in different countries.

[@hellosabrinachaney]

My Life as a Zucchini is one of my favorite stop-motion films! I watched it in a theater with my family and we were all in happy tears at the end. I did notice some design quirks in Pinocchio, but my thoughts are mostly nitpicky (I work in stop-motion as well!). This movie was a production that took place over multiple locations, for multiple years, with many different people involved over the course of more than a decade. I think this may have caused some inconsistencies. While it may not be a complete masterpiece in my eyes, it's nonetheless a beautiful and sincere work of art.

[@DoofXMachina]

French people moment

[@donnie_duckling]

I adore Carlo being named after Carlo Collodi because, in a way, he represents what Collodi wanted the italian youth he was trying to reach with his story to grow into: well behaved kids who love their parents, are polite and obedient, and go to school to grow into wonderful and useful adults. It's what Pinocchio had to grow into in the original tale, and what Guillermo protested against, because while being well-behaved in itself isn't bad, it can also turn into blind obedience which kills individuals and critical thinking. It turns you into a puppet. Something I've seen that not a lot of critics and reviews talk about is how one of the main messages in the movie for Del Toro was learning to disobey, question and protest, and how that is far from being a negative trait in a lot of social circumstances, even with your own parents. Of course it isn't encouraging kids never follow advice from their parents, just to sometimes question orders and expectations that sometimes root themselves from not-so-nice ideals.

[@georgeeastwood6930]

This ironically makes Pinocchio himself less of a “puppet” than actual people around him. 😊

[@pluckieclover]

also forgot to mention I love the model for Pinocchio and how the light bounces off him and you get these beautiful warm hues and reds that show up.

[@Revrie8]

Ill be honest, i went bananas when i saw the 'Fairy' cause i thought it was biblically accurate angel and those things look so damn cool, I loved how both the life and the death creatures had many eyes that all blinked and looked around with the creature, it just added so much dread, loved them

[@nicoleseraphita7613]

The ending is such a punch in the gut, most I've cried at a movie in awhile.

[@chickennuggetpaw]

One of the things I personally love about this movie is the stunning animation. It’s truly some of the best stop motion animation I’ve seen. It’s also nice because, in general, you don’t see stop motion very often because it’s admittedly very impractical.

[@AeridisArt]

I was sick with a cold while watching the movie (lots of sneezing and a runny nose). I was in my bed watching on my laptop and my mom kept checking up on me because I was sniffling a lot. I had to keep telling her "No mom, I'm not dying! I'm crying!" This movie brought out so many tears. I loved it so much. I'm gonna be watching it again with the whole family this weekend (but in Spanish cuz my parents don't know English. Thankfully there's a Spanish dub).

[@pili8793]

Not a huge fan of stop motion or Pinocchio but I can appreaciate the love and care put into this film. The voice of Pinocchio was WONDERFUL and the fairies' design was great!

[@StainedBrain]

I completely agree. I wasn’t a fan of it.. it took me 3 tries to finish it. The singing really took me out of the movie, and I usually LOVE musicals. I had to skip most of the singing

[@camels8603]

As the credits rolled and my husband and I were about to get up and go to bed Netflix previewed the making of video. And Del Toro was so cute showing off the big and small puppets of Pinocchio. I could see from that that he really loved this project.

[@tyrese4673]

Obviously this is the best animated film of the year and the team deserves all the praise for all their hard work Disney should watch this film and take notes how to make a real adaptation no amount of money can replace talent and loving your work

[@soweli_Lukonsi]

Del Toro was originally attached to direct Disney's version. This feels like a weird repeat of the Universal Creature from the Black Lagoon situation. Del Toro is attached to a project with a major studio to remake an old classic. The executives don't like his vision for the film, because for whatever reason, so he takes the project to another studio, where it becomes quite successful. I mean, Hollywood isn't exactly about just letting directors do whatever they want, it's a numbers game. All about the money and whatnot. Rightfully so, after all, filmmaking is expensive. But you have to appreciate how truly amusing it is that two major studios have turned down his work, only for him to find someone else willing to finance it, and it to be extremely successful.

[@brandonspain12345]

This movie better win at the Awards for best Animated Movie of 2022!

[@ymodnar]

same but i bet lightyear would win

[@randomsamurai3855]

@@ymodnar nah fucking strange world💀💀💀💀

[@jakey14344]

Turning Red will win. Kaiju Karen with the voice of Omni Man's wife FTW

[@theenderkirby]

Guys can ypu report @whaaa t's channel for being swlf promption bot

[@amadeusmalonje6948]

I'd like to see an anime movie win

[@jamesscott7215]

I just watched it last night. I watched it again before this video. And this movie is nearly a masterpiece in my mind. And it might be one of my, if not my favorite, movies of all time. I was almost in tears in the first 5 minutes. It made me laugh, and god damn was I a sobbing mess by the end. PS: because I’ve seen no one else point it out, in the opening sequence with Carlo, we see and are told that Geppetto is a perfectionist. Then when he’s making Pinocchio he says “I’ll finish you in the morning.” The fairy brings Pinocchio to life before Geppetto can finish him. Pinocchio from the start was “imperfect” and Geppetto could never make him “perfect.”

[@Staceyishere]

I loved the songs in this movie so much. Everything is New to Me has been stuck in my head ever since I watched it and Ciao Papa was so beautiful. Also, Volpe was a stand out for me because he was voiced by Christoph Waltz, who is my favorite actor, and he also sings! The ending made me bawl my eyes out and I am definitely going to watch it again tomorrow, and probably cry again.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I do kind of wish that Volpe was an actual fox, at least for visual interest, but I agree that Christoph Waltz voicing him made him stand out as a villain.

[@dullsunrise8820]

This is more than a fantastic (if not the best) adaptation of Pinocchio-it’s by far one of the best adaptations of anything ever. It looks and feels so beautifully genuine, plus it came out of a place of love. If anything, this felt like a movie that both wanted to and needed to be made. Animation is art and I’m glad Del Toro is proving those who say it isn’t wrong.

[@karolinakuc4783]

Japanses Pinocchio series from 1972 was also good

[@W0lfenstrike]

I loved how this film took many elements from previous Del Toro's movies like The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth; people in the real world suddenly dealing with supernatural stuff in war times with this childlike wonder meeting HEAVY themes like the loss of innocence and even coming with terms with mortality. I absolutely loved it. My only criticism is how forgettable some of the songs are, but other than that, this is EASILY the very best Pinocchio version and easily the best stop-motion I've ever seen, a near perfect movie in my humble opinion.

[@beegee80]

I'm almost embarrassed to admit how many times I had to pause this movie to cry while I was watching it.

[@waitwhat238]

Anything directed by GDT is an absolute masterpiece

[@WhoJizzedInYourMilkshake]

Literally his only not great film was Mimic, and that's just because Weinstein shat all over it

[@DONKFORTRESS6956]

fr pacific rim the goat

[@DarthBiomech]

@@WhoJizzedInYourMilkshake And even then it was still unique and enjoyable. Even his worst films do not fall under "pretty good" mark.

[@kokojessup2745]

Del Toro's Pinocchio made me cry 3 times and oh my god I loved everything about it. Everything was so beautiful, from the design to the story itself. It was like it was speaking to me, I really did enjoy the movie and the makings of the movie. I don't regret watching it; unlike DISNEYS RE-MAKE!

[@jacklazzaro9820]

I really like del Toro’s acceptance speech at the Golden Globes. “Animation is not a genre for kids, … it is a medium.” If del Toro can understand this, then why can’t those “ladies” at the Oscars last year understand?

[@cringydinosaur635]

We have to agree that Ciao Papa should give this movie a Oscar

[@sonicfanboy3375]

The only song from the film i truly liked

[@riskamation9368]

now all we need is a horror pinochio to complete the transition from kids movie to absolute horror!

[@thestripedmenace]

The original Disney version is enough of a horror movie lmao

[@theenderkirby]

Riskamation can you report the channel of @МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 for self promotion?

[@sonicfanboy3375]

There's a Chucky clone called "Pinocchio's revenge"

[@brianlevine871]

All I can say is that I'm glad this movie exists. Not just for del Toro achieving his goal, but also for showing how creative you can get when retelling a classic story, let alone in stop-motion.

[@TheSpamSpecialist]

"Ciao Papa" is the best song in the movie, in my opinion. The kid who voices Pinocchio has a wonderful voice. Though I think "Everything is New to Me" is really fun and cute.

[@ukiyo8909]

At the ending was so bittersweet it made me cry. I was trying to hide it from my mom though when I looked over at her, she was crying too.