Neurologist Gets Her Husband's Diagnosis Wrong | Chicago Med

Dr. Charles and Dr. Rhodes misdiagnose a patient presenting with mental and heart problems with dementia
Season 1 Episode 16 "Disorder"
Dr. Manning and Reese treat a dog biting victim, Dr. Choi tags alongs with the paramedics and receives a call from a burn victim who lives like a hoarder. Meanwhile, Sharon warns everyone at the hospital to be on their professional behaviour when the Joint Commission visits.
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[@esthral]

after all the episodes of patients being dramatic over being wrong or just being straight up entitled, this was a fresh breath of air for me seeing how the wife, despite being a professional neurologist, didn't let her profession's status get into her head and believed dr charles.

[@gia9551]

I think that’s often how it goes as long as the doctor who’s on the other side isn’t arrogant. When you have no education in that field it’s harder to comprehend how much doctors actually know

[@esthral]

@@gia9551 i suppose i will agree to that, yeah

[@ambrosiacanelo9014]

Not to mention she didn't care tgat he went behind their backs to take the MRI. She understands if a doctor has a hunch it is always best to be safe rather than sorry. She was the freshest breath of air

[@zachariahsmith1324]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

@@gia9551 Actually, Arrogance can have two sides in the medical field. My mother and brother work there, and arrogant doctors often are the most proactive individuals; especially in surgery there total focus and ego's can transition into decisive action and they demand total control once a patient comes in and especially when complications happen is surgery. Some can have personal networks to temper those attitudes, but real world doctors can make beneficial contributions in the medical field due to intense arrogance.

[@slbw9248]

It wasn't entirely her fault. She asked for a 2nd and 3rd opinion.

[@GabrielleLwarg]

confermation bias, they confermed what she diagnosticated without making their own diagnosis. It's quite common. And also, this is medicine, cardiologists will only see heart problems, neurologists only brain problems, dermatologist only skin problems. Bias is hard to overcome

[@rea4177]

Syntheticspring the whole paragraph you just wrote doesn’t change the fact that it wasn’t entirely her fault

[@GabrielleLwarg]

@@rea4177 yeah, it's not her fault, she misdiagnosed but she didn't do it on purpose, it's because of confermation bias

[@starpathdivine9402]

SL BW No, but what it speaks to is creating a protocol to prevent or flag cases where there are multiple possibilities. This is something that can be assisted by technology built into patient files. Diagnoses should be revisited on a regular schedule. Misdiagnosis is still a major cause of fatality.

[@lynnxau1044]

Syntheticspring especially that this type is like she said had all the symptoms like a textbook case that by that time no could hav spotted a tumour so I can’t blame the wife

[@muttfacemcderp980]

Hey, at least she admitted she was wrong. But I don't blame her, she couldn't have known the real cause. Not really.

[@ottilieyoung9316]

Muttface McDerp I had to reply it annoyed me there was 1k likes and no reply’s

[@thelonelypigeon9554]

It was extremely similar to the disease she diagnosed his husband had. So yeah, I wouldn't know any better either though. Because I'm not a doctor.

[@lfrit0]

To add to this the only reason Dr. Charles was able to catch the subtle hints was because so much time has passed and he was a third person party. He legit said it himself there was no way to see the melanoma before it grew to a certain size.

[@XxRadioactiveGirlxX]

Plus she got second and third opinions and they all said the same thing

[@thevideo-beast122]

When I read the title, I thought it would be an arrogant doctor who would deny her mistake or a spiteful spouse getting revenge. A loving wife who didn't got all the facts... I did not see coming.

[@PlayerNerfed]

Tbf on her she did have all the facts, as Dr Charles pointed out back 4 years ago that tumour would not be big enough to be picked up so the only diagnosis would of been the one she gave.

[@talos2384]

PlayerNerfed plus she said she had 2 other doctors confirm her diagnosis

[@parikalanyantra69]

😊😊

[@deborah3783]

Absolutely love how when Dr. Charles apologized for doing an unauthorized scan the wife didn't even blink and went straight to talking about her husband's condition. There was no arrogance, no holding on to her own (and her 2nd and 3rd opinion) diagnosis. It really shows how much she loves her husband. I wish we see more of this in medical dramas.

[@kirstycoo97]

I agree, most families of patients aren't as dramatic and infuriating as the ones on medical shows. Don't get me wrong you do get the odd overbearing mother or something but never as much thats shows on these shows.

[@roboblox234]

How does that work in terms of billing? Will the brain scan be charged to the wife and husband's medical bills still even if it was unauthorized?

[@kamataros5172]

It also shows that she's a medical professional. She immediately tries to understand what she did wrong and looks out for what is actually wrong with her patient.

[@parikalanyantra69]

😊

[@msk-qp6fn]

The way the wife and the husband were more worried for each other than themselves, the way the husband is pained by him hurting his wife, the way the wife reassures him and calls him my love.....it is so beautiful and sad.

[@totally_not_a_witch9897]

At least she realised she was wrong and that it was a mistake.

[@tedstation5607]

1k likes zero comments? Weird.

[@deadpoetssociety8162]

Pandagames now this will make two!

[@tedstation5607]

@@deadpoetssociety8162 Yup haha

[@ichiii-]

Pandagames 3

[@bannanapiepiexhi3849]

SHANE!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mervynanip9925]

It always excites me when a doctor becomes a patient (or a patient's relative) and then starts talking all medical jargons to the attending physician.

[@madaraaradam7799]

I am a veterinarian. Had to have brain surgery few years ago. We don't perform neurosurgery in VM, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the terminology. You should have seen how happy my neurosurgeon was when I told him I am a vet and I don't need explanations in 'normal language' He was literally beaming 😂 I know how frustrating it can be. Even as a vet-I sometimes find myself in similar situations with animal owners. By no means am I saying these people are bad animal owners-but sometimes owners don't understand the simplest things. Then it's my duty to try and explain things.

[@zoeuddin7324]

7:26

[@KT-ki8ik]

We have an HCA in a care home who became a resident there after working for half a century. It really helps because she is with other residents every day and has the insight and knowledge thats useful for us

[@nanana8928]

@Tyler Toxic I'm pretty sure that's English

[@shannonmenendez4559]

Mervyn Anip me when my grandpa went to hospital earlier this year, it was so funny cause he was like an Angel and then would be like no including all the medical jargon

[@jeefffffffff]

This belongs on Netflix people have already said that but I don't really care

[@sidb5406]

Its there on amazon prime

[@michelleroos5598]

Typical .Oceanxo 666

[@sqxibbs]

anyone know any sites you can watch it on for free?

[@sqxibbs]

CubeCub I know lol but I still use them oops

[@yougood2291]

You can watch it for free on 123movies

[@kiwikat8665]

Mad respect for that wife, I expected for the wife to be an arrogant stuck up doctor but she I’m glad that was wrong and also mad respect for that actress

[@femkeroeloffzen2874]

Your comment is not correct qua sentence could you maybe correct it for me it's hard to understand now

[@Catitalaratoncita]

@@femkeroeloffzen2874 uh what

[@femkeroeloffzen2874]

@@Catitalaratoncita "she im gald that was wrong"

[@alhasanahmed9172]

Totally relate to that: I was once admitted to hospital with a ruptured appendix and my surgeon and my dad (who is also a surgeon) started speaking with all their medical jargon and I was just like :)

[@cookiecraze1310]

When you can't tell if they're just speaking smart or your dying .

[@eyachakroun8266]

Lmaooooo

[@maplelu9514]

Cookie Craze lmaooo

[@roxinestephens5137]

@@cookiecraze1310 great one🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@knivez786]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ostermanumbrellaco.7445]

this woman is so understanding I like her character like so damn much

[@belad0nna]

You really got to feel for this woman. She did everything right and came to a logical conclusion, he was right in that the tumour was so small no scan would have caught it. No tumour, no reason to suspect anything else.

[@ivy5614]

When she said ‘I’m here my love’ I was like awwww I want that🥺

[@lunamooncat7926]

Yes! That woman is such a keeper

[@truecrimewithratoh]

I Want It Too🥺

[@shimmershine6902]

Really... I found it corny and annoying lol

[@xxsarah_katexx1003]

Imagine having someone care about you. I could never 😅😅😅😭

[@simplethewaterbender6264]

@@shimmershine6902 Sometimes, phrases used for our beloved partners can sound corny/cringy to others, but not to them. Sooo🙃

[@shingarellano609]

Mad respect for the wife, who understood why dr. charles had to do the scan w/out her consent , to better diagnose and treat her husband. The perfect balance of Wife-- who wants the best for her husband-- and Doctor-- who understands that it is also their duty to do as Dr. Charles did, to better treat the patient. Great character!

[@realeatdonuts1750]

I have a fear of blood, but somehow i cant look away from this show

[@ashar8521]

Real EatDonuts1 sameee

[@gogylove]

Real EatDonuts1 SAMEEE

[@maxc8726]

Real EatDonuts1 same

[@dheanabila2162]

Is it normal to keep watching these after several panic attacks?

[@ghostm4cky77games3]

Same here Real EatDonuts1

[@johnanthonybudiongan5555]

I love how open-minded the neurologist is. I mean she made a grave mistake 4 years ago and realized if her husband is not admitted to the hospital. What are the odds?0

[@de341f6]

the point of the episode was that in four years time as well, the way of diagnosing illnesses was also different. She tried her best at the time,

[@Disteh]

I love that the wife who is also a neurologist accepted her fault professionally.

[@mamavelvet8787]

Oh. So the former unit chief Strauss of the Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU) of the FBI became a neurologist. Fascinating. Ref. Criminal Minds.

[@squidsquid285]

Multifandom MooMoo why are you acting like it’s real life? Actors play lots of different characters.. wow

[@mamavelvet8787]

@@squidsquid285 I am just saying that as a fan. And I am not hallucinating that the characters they portray is who they really are. This was supposed to be a funny comment. Not my problem if you can't get the humor in it.

[@squidsquid285]

There are so many people who take this stuff so crazy seriously, sometimes it’s hard to tell 😂 I apologise, I understand what you mean now

[@sunandmoon4897]

Thank you omg. It annoyed me cos I couldn’t figure out where I had seen her before.

[@darkwater72]

This can happen because, since the actress was already familiar with using the medical jargon from a previous role, they deliver the lines better than anyone else during their auditions.

[@hollie_marie]

She shouldn't be too hard on herself no one could have seen that it would have been two different things making one giant mess. Even Dr Charles didn't know what he was looking for he just had an idea about what it wasn't not what it was

[@aebeeceeonetwothree1377]

It's so refreshing to see a doctor who is a patient accept their mistakes 😊

[@Jkjoannaki]

Such a beautiful story. I loved the wife's reaction. I love how the psychiatrist handled her reaction.

[@rebeccaduncan8463]

I cant watch this cause I live in Scotland but I still love watching these clips 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💖

[@darcytimmons6437]

Yeeeeeeeeeees!!! :D 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@lisarowe1057]

I live in Scotland and I can still watch it

[@niamh111]

I'm from England so same

[@ben_2117]

I live in Scotland and I can get it on sky

[@rebeccaduncan8463]

Oh Yeah yeah actually? What channel?????

[@ASplashOfCol0urs]

“I’m not ready to give up are Sundays listening to opera’s” Idk but that’s such a sweet and gentle line to me

[@rosen.3149]

“Breath sounds clear bilaterally” Interesting he heard that without stethoscope 🤔

[@rosen.3149]

Natsu Dragneel he’s supposed to listen to bilateral lung sounds. Then report his assessment

[@megandarling9268]

He was using a stethoscope a few seconds before, he might have just waited to report it with everything else Just something I noticed

[@arubanna]

he did use the stethoscope seconds before he mentioned it

[@Cherry-qx6rk]

he literally used it a few seconds ago

[@agentburningbutters3655]

She may be old, but she is a good thinker. And when that poor guys pressure raised. She stayed strong, I should say that she used to be a great doctor before retirement

[@joanneaugust6611]

I met a person who actually had this type of dementia on an internship in a senior home. I was fifteen, so they told me the simple version of what this illness is: it comes with sensory disturbances that makes everyone and everything look like monsters. I was only allowed to approach him from behind, I was made aware that he would hit and kick me otherwise - because from his point of view, that would have been self-defence. Imagine how scary this disease must be! He was quite young as well, died at 58, I believe.

[@lahstories8165]

This is absolutely heartbreaking for both of them. The fact you are losing the function in your mind and can't control your actions and hurting someone you love must be terrifying and so upsetting. And for her the fact that she is losing the man she loves and the fact that she misdiagnosed him must be shattering

[@sherinechristineperera4264]

That’s why they say doctors should never treat their own family members as they don’t see out of the box , and may take decisions which may cause harm to the patient,,

[@donnastowers7053]

She had a 2nd and 3rd opinion

[@caramellpanda]

It's a breath of fresh air to have a patient's family member also be a doctor and have a conversation like this with the Chicago Med physicians.

[@activelivingchallenger4298]

She really loves her husband. Beautiful to see.

[@yuperdoodles4634]

this shows the sign of an amazing medical professional! someone who can focus on the facts, and not get held back by their own ego

[@jami1069]

I hope this will be on NETFLIX soon!

[@crimsontwitch6240]

Same!

[@McRhixnna]

Bad news pal

[@TheGobin]

Jami Nel yep not close

[@kate-prentice]

It's so sad that the wife was just giving him puzzles and his heart just goes off

[@miriamfischer1983]

“Tenderness to the left chest and thoracic spine” *palpates intercostal spaces* B*tCh how deep did you palpate to feel his spine 💀

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

he also can auscultate with hands *palpates rib cage* "breast sounds clear bilateral"

[@nigeriandjudju4719]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@annw8909]

This actress reminds me of Martha Stewart

[@pandora3246]

Yesss

[@GoogleUser-lk6xn]

I thought it WAS HER in her first scene, I was shook

[@cm_0011]

This was sad but also really wholesome honestly. That convo between the two of them is amazing.

[@RewatiP]

The one thing I still don't get...if it's been four years, shouldn't he have had multiple brain scans while undergoing cognitive therapy in order to judge the progression of his disease?

[@MrPumpkinsss]

Yes Yes he should have

[@marielamodia1618]

apparently it would have been too small to see

[@ee-hangodfrey5204]

@@marielamodia1618 No that was to see the small tumor causing hormonal imbalance. By the sounds of it scans should have easily showed that his brain was healthy.

[@Jkjoannaki]

No. Not everyone can afford MRIs all the type. Most of the time neurological disorders are diagnosed by the symptoms. The hormonal imbalance which was the cause of his neurological symptoms were shown later after quetiapine and other medication he might have taken, so they thought it was the side effects, not the cause.its easy to misdiagnose those. Especially if someone isn't able to get full body scans all the time because of time and money issues

[@NeonFroggit]

@@Jkjoannaki wow ok, you know your stuff dude

[@FaacinLazyGardener]

My grandfather had this type of dementia and it's absolutely heartbreaking.

[@user-nr2cf4ip4l]

i’ve been binge watching so many episodes of Chicago Med and im so in awe at how doctors nurses psychiatrist acquire so much knowledge of the human anatomy and brain

[@lunarisdreaming]

She was very mature on how she took this information. No overacting drama. I like this one.

[@skyeclarey1960]

Aha I like how everyone is bothered wether they were the first or not like rly no one cares 😂

[@rubygilmore878]

Skye Clarey started on tik tok, now it’s here 😂🤷🏼‍♂️

[@birdiec]

@@rubygilmore878 people have been saying "first!" Since at least 2010 RayWilliamJohnson pointed it out on =3 around that time. That's the earliest I know of , but it could be even older. It did not start on Tik Tok 😂

[@vampgirl101rocks]

The poor woman she thinks its all her fault but she did everything she was meant to do she got a second and third opinion she had the tests done but that kind of guilt doesn't go away easily

[@RosiePosieBabie]

I thought he was rolling his eyes at the crossword lol

[@emileygadd5929]

No it’s not her fault and I’m addicted to this show

[@LilyGrace95]

My granddad died of dementia a few weeks ago, and he had Parkinson's too. I don't know if he had LBD, or if it was too separate conditions, but what I DO know is that it took 15 years to finally beat him, and it was only about 5 of those that he started to lose his mind to the point of not being able to do things like cook, house fixing, drive etc. Before that, he was pretty much mostly cognitive. Just like this man. Do not blame the wife at all for misdiagnosing him.

[@anastasiahanda9432]

STRAUSSSSSSS ITS BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I SAW HER IN CRIMINAL MINDS

[@tyrmyrmidon2846]

The complexity of diagnosis when symptoms are shared between different tingz

[@grimboardypie]

Who else watches this so much that when you get a small ache or pain in ur chest or something u think it’s internal bleeding or something that might kill you? Anyone?

[@haleyh6921]

I was glad to see her so kind but that ending was heartbreaking

[@closcrazy]

The wife is a brilliant actress!

[@life.with.too.many.animals9411]

It's sad when the cop said "that's karma"...it shows how little people understand that dementia, illness, paranoia ect can cause violent outbursts...it doesn't always mean abuse.

[@nerdydrawer7265]

The thing is, she did everything right and it’s as Dr Charles said, at the time she diagnosed him she wouldn’t have been able to see the actual problem.

[@albertobeto5362]

"There are no tests that can definitively diagnose LBD. Currently, only a brain autopsy after death can confirm a suspected diagnosis. However, researchers are studying ways to diagnose LBD earlier and more accurately during life."

[@yochillino9707]

director erin strauss is a neurologist now (i know i'm late but i just felt happy seeing her in a show again since i miss her in criminal minds)

[@A-Cookie-A]

I love this channel

[@nycot107]

She would have felt so bad for diagnosing it wrong, even though it was a mistake a lot of experts could have made.

[@charlottegresham3067]

Love this clip so much

[@khianap0164]

Loved this ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@swaranballay7800]

I love love love this show

[@nestanjuguna7064]

Love this ❤️ poor man 😢

[@cathkamala6920]

Wahhhhhhhhh I never knew the side effects of medication for louie body dementia is similar to hyperparathyroidism

[@Alayne89]

I think the unnamed beta-blocker from his cardiac surgery was causing the behavioural changes.

[@sanna9062]

*lewy

[@jadoncohen4823]

I love watching these little clips

[@hunitsjen]

I've watched like all the episodes of med and p.d rn I'm binging the fire department SKSKSK

[@ittsme_althea6396]

"score 1 for karma"

[@TheBeastr]

Honestly when I heard that I was like so why hasn't anyone thrown him out of the room or knocked him the f*ck out for speaking to their patient tight when he came in and needs help. If hes gonna trash talk patients do it outside of the room or wing on your bloody break. But hey its tv, if a nurse or doctor did that they'd be in some deep shit

[@grimlock485]

Everyone saying how this was a breath of fresh air but I read the comments before it was over

[@HolowatyVlogs]

Cathy Durant became a neurologist?!

[@genevievemarie9427]

See, I had to do a Google search because I didn't get the "Cathy Durant" reference since I never watched House of cards!

[@pissedoffpanda9823]

She's a woman of many talents🤗

[@TheGhostoftheCosmos]

Yeah and the head of the FBI

[@TheGhostoftheCosmos]

@@pissedoffpanda9823 🐼 You have a wonderful username

[@pissedoffpanda9823]

@@TheGhostoftheCosmos thank you❣️

[@rea2166]

This is the most non toxic ep of chicago med

[@marcus0788]

Omg this is just too good

[@imbored5682]

Omg poor man

[@pwnagesec344]

Dr.Charles is my new hero !!

[@barbecuedsimsbaby]

Such good actors! 💖🙌

[@jeanneMCB_mcmxci]

I tear a lil bit when she said,"Im here my love",gosh 🤸💕

[@caoimhekelly9192]

Ok i know this is irrelevant but any one else getting Derek Hale vibes from Connor Rhodes

[@nadaw.8267]

Caoimhe Kelly MEE

[@jashapp289]

More like Tommy Merlin 😏

[@maddylloyd9104]

They’re nothing alike and trust me I’ve watched teen wolf over 10 times if it’s because of the facial hair I get what u mean but then it’s just not in the same shape it’s similar and all... sounds sad that I know this

[@kaleylacey25]

Teen wolf for life so off topic 😂🥰

[@hoellenwesen16]

Yes. Me. I was shocked when I found out the actor is the same on that played Tommy Merlin. I just can't see it 🙈.

[@rebeccatang7645]

A conversation between two intelligence can't relate 🤣

[@laurendonohoe9646]

I love this show ❤️

[@user-vp9bl5dl6p]

Btw anyone that hasnt got this on tv it is on now tv and amazon prime tv hoping this helps some people!

[@rihaam667]

OMG I just entered KZbin and KZbin I search Chicago med and this A min late!!

[@LPF7]

what

[@rihaam667]

Omg the likes!

[@anaeddie4751]

Hahahaa

[@rihaam667]

This is sooo much

[@preserumcoco]

every time they say LBD I think of the Lizzie Bennet Diaries 😂

[@michaelfawcett9935]

I can't believe it...that's the actress who played Erin Strauss on Criminal Minds...

[@lizzyforsdyke3833]

I am actually addicted to this show. Like I watched it until 5 in the morning the other day. And woke up to watch it again 2 hours later.

[@kelliewhyte_85]

My fiance's grandmother had Lewy Body Dementia.

[@lolathomas5386]

2:52 to 2:53 Did you see her face??? IT WAS HILARIOUS!!

[@ebbandflowph]

This should be on Netflix. Also, the wife played Cathy Durant on House of Cards!

[@chastitydrown2678]

This reminded me a bit of a House-style discovery.

[@A-Cookie-A]

Why is this show so addictive am i right

[@ayu1980]

Seeing Roman, feel blessed

[@steviec26]

This show should definitely be on Netflix

[@a.y9008]

Good show!

[@jadeisaruri2016]

i love this show

[@kavyat.5614]

atleast she isnt stuck up and like I ALREADY DIAGNOSED HIM HOW DARE YOU DO IT AGAIN. she accepted her mistake.

[@shaeross343]

What happens when you tense your arm to long

[@darc12345]

Love this channel 😂💙

[@---xb6op]

IM STILL WAITING FOR THE MOUNTAINS AND MOLEHILLS EPISODE TO COME OUT COZ I JUST LOVE TO SEE #Manstead !!!!

[@SnowPink90]

When the husband’s monitors went all off, and they were doing the ultrasound, I saw the expression on the wife’s face and I thought I know how that feels. My husband passed away on our front lawn June 2/21 and to find a neighbour doing CPR on him was such a shock when I had just been watching him, laughing with the other neighbour about a joke. To lose a person that you’ve been married to for years and years, and I deeply in love with, hurts so deep that your heart never does recover. I was never prepared to say goodbye.😔😔💔💔

[@abigailbanks8612]

9:14 the fly on her nose 😂😂😂😂👌

[@sarakouser5516]

I love this showwwwwww

[@andycoughlan4566]

Sara Kouser I subed to your channel

[@sarakouser5516]

Andy Coughlan thank you so much

[@ericaanguyen3387]

... “its al.. alright my love”. 😂😂

[@mirinleed8525]

I always watch these there the best 😚

[@noorussabah9179]

I thought I had to worry about Alzheimer's and Parkinson's own it's own with my family history but a combo? Damn