New 2022 Nissan Frontier vs. Honda Ridgeline: I Expected ONE Of These Trucks To Disappoint, But...

[@dannyg5636]

I'm Frontier guy that being said they both have some advantages in their own ways. Buy what you want or buy based on your needs. People really need to stop worrying about someone's vehicle choice.

[@ubangiestomp]

Yup, besides I like the storage options for the bed of the Ridgeline, that's pretty sweet. I wouldn't have a problem with either but mostly because I don't tow anything. At the end of the day it comes down to which truck can I get for the best price.

[@rawniew]

The starting price for the ridgeline is what turns me away, for its base price you get a really nice Tacoma or base TUNDRA...

[@newfiemurphy7140]

I like the Ridgeline better, but I also appreciated and respect your choice!

[@lancelotlink3907]

"People really need to stop worrying about someone's vehicle choice." Haha well put. Buy what you want or need and screw what anyone else things.

[@charredskeleton]

@@rawniew Basically any 1/2 ton or midsized compeditor. $37k is close to the price of two base model Mavericks, the Ridgelines nearest compeditor in my mind.

[@samg2620]

Once you get used to that storage area in the “trunk,” you’ll never go back. I have a 2019 Ridgeline Black Edition, and I am itching for a 2022. And to anyone who says it’s not a real truck, I have owned many trucks over the years, and this is the best I’ve ever owned, by far.

[@marmorego]

Congratulations bro, I just got mine this week

[@ridgelineenjoyer1517]

Yeah I have a 2021 black edition and I love it, it handles so well

[@seanbutler2291]

The frame says its not. So id take the frames word over yours. Also a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 can tow as much as that thing and its half the size and 20 years older. And thats not the bigger engine option.

[@tenncutt]

Its not a truck... Lol

[@donteller46]

@@tenncutt Well yes it is but not a knuckle dragging truck so you don't like it

[@mikebell2750]

I am a Tacoma guy personally, but I like what Nissan has done with the Frontier. As for the Ridgeline, it may not be a truck in regards to being body on frame and as off road capable, but it will beat all the competition when it comes to ride comfort and handling.

[@herbertsungahid]

So true.

[@fordhouse8b]

Being body on frame or off-road capable are not a part of the definition of the word truck.

[@Resistculturaldecline]

The RL has a frame, but just not removable like the rest. The RL is a substantially stronger chassis than any other mid

[@davelariviere682]

And STORAGE!

[@dragonman7914]

Payload is there with the others

[@fokuz02]

I am the proud owner of a 21 Ridgeline Sport and I am happy with my decision. I looked at all the other midsize options and the Honda fit my lifestyle the best.

[@cleanasdirt6832]

I’ve been trying to find a new Ridgeline to buy. Hopefully by fall 2022 they will have some stock.

[@schmoab]

That’s great if you care about things like long-term reliability and driving experience!

[@johnlopez3001]

I'm sure you will enjoy your new Ridgellne for many years to come as I'm still enjoying my 2008 Ridgellne.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

It’s a fantastic choice for 90% of people

[@josechavez7200]

And it’s going to last way longer than any American truck. I saw a Ridgeline with 300k come into my shop still running strong

[@roccosmith4604]

2019 RTL-E AWD. 60K miles. Have hauled stone, mulch lumber etc. near 1500 lbs. many times. Towed a 4,000 lb. boat and 4,300 lb. RV more than 20K miles combined. Drive in Northern Michigan winter roads in deep snow and ice and never been stuck or stranded. One set of new tires and 50% left on brakes and no other service other than routine maintenance. Vehicle still looks brand new. Is it a truck?, yes it is. If I wanted to play off road in the mud I would have bought a Jeep.

[@shj2000]

I bought the Ridgeline. Rather have full time AWD than seldom used part time 4x4. Rather have the roomier cabin of the Ridgeline. Rather have the wider truck bed. Rather have the in bed locking trunk. Rather have the better mpg. Would rather use the Ridgeline as a daily driver. Seriously doubt that the Frontier owner will go anywhere off road that the Ridgeline will not.

[@mct8888]

Stop being so logical!

[@bogerdoger1]

All valid points, sadly I’m gonna get roasted at work after I buy a Ridgeline….

[@maxwellmaxter]

Like your comments Crash. I'm buying a Ridgeline in June. Those Nissans will be in the scrap yard when the Hondas will still have 200,000 miles to go. I've owned 3 Nissans and 1 Honda. Not even in the same league on engineering.

[@bubbicus]

@John Dough you make me laugh. The Ridgeline is a truck, like it or not. It may not be as capable off-road or tow as much as other trucks, but I guarantee you that it'll still be going strong long after the others have found a spot in the junkyard, with the exception of Toyota trucks. Besides, the majority of people that buy trucks don't actually do any towing or off-roading, it just makes them feel good knowing that they can if they ever needed to, which, like I said, they won't. Crap on the Ridgeline if you must, just don't complain when your truck takes a dump on you long before the Ridgeline craps out on its owners.

[@Bajaheat]

@John Dough do you have any clue what you’re talking about? The ridgeline can tow 5k pounds, if you tow less than 5k name a vehicle that would be more practical, 24-25mpg on the highway, drives like a car etc.

[@pm270x]

The Ridgeline comes standard with Tri-Zone Climate Control to accommodate rear-seated passengers. I believe the Gladiator is the only other midsized-pickup to offer that feature. Something to consider for parents who pickup kids from daycare or vacation regularly with their pickup. The Ridgeline also uses stadium seating for the rear-seat to remove motion sickness. The rear seating is positioned higher than front seats, which also helps taller riders sit more comfortably. The RTL-E trim and above has the gloss infotainment screen. The Ridgeline is the only midsized-pickup that’s built standard with a full towing package ready for 5k lbs. All other midsized-pickups come standard with a 2k lbs tow from bumper, and then up-charge available tow packages.

[@wornoutwasd8567]

The ridgeline also has the worst resale value for a truck, so don't buy them new. Also they're basically the only used "truck" you can find for sale right now with the slim market.

[@pm270x]

@@wornoutwasd8567 Kelly Blue Book says my 2020 Ridgeline RTL-E has a Fair Market Value of $39,636 through $43,095 ($41,366 averaged). I’m the original owner. It had a list price around $42k and we negotiated down to $38k. I really don’t have any issue with a vehicle that’s appreciating in value from what I paid with the current marketplace’s chip shortage. Otherwise, 2020 MSRP of $42k up to 2022 MSRP of $45k now, is also good appreciation. The Ridgeline doesn’t have any issues with rusting. The 3.5L SOHC VTEC engine has a long history of reliability and low maintenance costs. The German ZF 9-speed transaxle is extremely reliable. The interior doesn’t have any history of fading from sun exposure. The Tonneau tri-panel solid bed cover is the only recall that I’ve had to date, which only involved additional straps between panels for users who neglected to properly fasten it down before driving off. The Ridgeline doesn’t currently have the high costs of maintenance on turbo chargers, GDI fuel dilution, nor high labor for diesel mechanics. It also has one of the best midsized-pickup crash test ratings, which keeps insurance premiums lower as well. Automotive Loyalty Awards from IHS Markit recognize manufacturers for superior performance in owner retention. The Ridgeline has been one of the most retained vehicles, which keeps value steady and reliable. The Ridgeline and Tacoma are retaining their customers the best. Gladiator is also building a similar reputation as a Wrangler counterpart. It’s the Ranger, Colorado, Canyon, and Frontier users that are doing the most trade-ins between one another, for the midsized-pickups.

[@pm270x]

@John Doe the biggest advantage is payload capacity. Depending on the model year and trim level, it gets between 1,477 lbs. and 1,583 lbs. which gives it a (3/4 ton) payload capacity. When the Ridgeline originally launched, its payload capacity was best-in-class for the midsized-pickup market. The competition have only recently completed against the Ridgeline’s payload capability. Unlike true unibodies, the Ridgeline, Pilot, and Passport has a frame welded within the unibody. Most off-road suspension packages drop payload capacity below 1k lbs (1/2 ton) and towing typically drops to 4k lbs. So functionality gain in one area is lost in another when going aftermarket. The Jeep Gladiator with Overland trim and Toyota Tacoma with TRD Pro trim are the best middle ground for maintaining reasonable off-road capability without losing too much towing or payload capability, while remaining reasonably priced. On paper, the Ford Ranger with FX4 trim and GMC Canyon with AT4 trim (Chevy Colorado with Z71 trim) appear to also provide a reasonable compromise of payload, towing, and off-road capability for pricing; but their 4x4 systems aren’t particularly impressive but just there for the sake of being there. The ZR2 Bison, Tremor, and Raptor aren’t reasonably priced considering the consistent costs of repairs for a true off-road’er. Most 4x4 systems aren’t asphalt compatible for long commutes in snowy or icy conditions between intermittently dry and slick conditions. Also, most 4x4 systems don’t recommend towing while the 4x4 system is engaged. This is where Ridgeline’s iVTM4 is vastly superior with dynamic torque vectoring maintaining 70% torque on axles or wheels with high friction and 30% torque on axles or wheels with low friction. That’s a best-in-class 40% torque spread. Jeep’s traditional and well known Quadra-Trac I® 4x4 system only offers a 4% torque spread with 48% front axle torque and 52% rear axle torque. Ridgeline’s iVTM4 provides on-demand AWD (4 wheel limited-slip wet clutch) traction control while towing, light off-roading, commuting in snow/ice without sacrificing payload capacity and or towing capacity. The TrailSport Edition should be available in a couple of years for the Ridgeline to start overlanding (not rock crawling). Honda dealerships are teamed with JSport Performance Accessories to provide lift kits, skid plates, and taller tires that won’t void the manufacturer’s OEM warranty; for those that won’t wait for the TrailSport Edition. Considering the Ridgeline is only a 2nd generation model, it’s actually doing very well as an entry into the midsized-pickup marketplace. The Toyota Tacoma is a rebadged 1969 Helux, by comparison with 65+ years of development history. In high school, I drove a 1st generation 1983 Ford Ranger XLT long-bed with a Lima 2.3L I4. The Ford Ranger (Mazda B-Series) have plenty of generations on the Ridgeline as well. If you aren’t running a farm, operating a construction trade, towing daily, or rock crawling monthly the Ridgeline is most likely the most cost effective option available for running a household with children. Off-road the Ridgeline rallies like an ARCA dirt track racer; the steering is tight and goes where you want it; it’s exceptionally practical for family trips due to an oversized cab and open concept storage below the rear bench; the huge in-bed trunk basically replaces the need for a crossover truck-box against the cab (would consume 1+” of bed capacity), it remains competitive in fuel mileage; the manual paddle-shifting in Sport Mode is fun as hell on 180° switchbacks through the Smokey Mountains and is also practical for towing and heavy payloads; the engine and transaxle are very reliable, I didn’t have to buy a towing package since that’s standard on all Ridgeline trims; and etc…

[@pm270x]

@John Dough the Tacoma/Hilux established its own production line for a full 65+ years. The Ridgeline has never been on an independent production line. Honda is working with General Motors to lease and occupy those abandoned GM factories to spread out model specific production lines. Right now, I believe the Ridgeline is produced last at Lincoln, Alabama after the Odyssey, Pilot and Passport go through the production line which reduces Ridgeline’s available production numbers. The Pilot dominates the production line for now. I think the Ridgeline would become a much different vehicle if it wasn’t restricted to a shared platform production line. The more important statistic is that Ridgeline’s have exceptional retention. So the Ridgeline has a promising future. Honda overwhelmingly dominates off-road racing with their super cross, motor cross, ATV, and enduro divisions. A little more leeway is all Honda’s engineers need to build another dominant off-road product offering, but for now we have to settle for what the Ridgeline is today, the most family friendly midsized-pickup. I’ll also continue to use my pickup to haul the additional 500 lbs of payload that a Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro isn’t rated to handle. I believe the Toyota Tacoma has moved their production line to Mexico to allow their San Antonio, TX plant more capacity to expand the production of the Tundra. It’ll be interesting to see if the quality controls in Mexico keep the Tacoma as reliable as their previous US built model years.

[@chillpengeru]

@John Dough you keep talking about offroading, obviously Ridgeline buyers aren't planning on doing that. Honestly most truck buyers don't ever do any actual offroading but whatever floats your boat.

[@steveo4141]

2017 Ridgeline drives well...comfortable...quiet..... i regularly tow 3500lbs (no issue) ... have carried significant amts of pressure treated in the back.... 10 sheets of 4x8 drywall (as much as I was willing to load on my own)... reasonable on gas ... always have the trunk loaded - so convenient. As for volume knob issue - it isn't... Steering wheel wheel volume control is much better. As for computer screen tech .... It's A Vehicle not a game console.

[@10thmountainvet]

My AWD Ridgeline gets an average 24 MPG. Mostly mixed traffic “city” driving. I’ve been very impressed with the AWD and utility space.

[@MixingGBP]

Wow, I'm only getting 19 MPG with lighter-side throttle usage.

[@10thmountainvet]

@@MixingGBP mine is a 2020 with the 10 speed auto. I’m actually getting better MPG now (central WI).

[@richarde1355]

What year is your Ridgeline?

[@corykluthe355]

I work at Honda. My dad is on his 3rd ridgeline now. For what he uses it for is perfect. Drives like an suv but has a bed to haul what he needs to.

[@chrislane8466]

Love the ride of the Ridgeline when I tested them, but I wish it came in a King Cab. I needed more bed.

[@wydopnthrtl]

I had a 19 RL sport for three yrs (company car) and just ordered a new 23 RTL-E for the family. I've had 10+ trucks over the years too. To be very open... before having a RL I was not all that impressed. Never even test drove one as I didn't consider it a "truck". (It was a company car and my cost was low and is why I got it) But having put 50K miles on one and in all kinds of weather, I'm must say we are very impressed. So impressed that we just ordered a loaded one for use as our main family vehicle. The things that surprised me the most: 1. MPG On 1000+ mile freeway trips (Oh, Tx, Fla) it averages right at 31mpg w/three adults and the bed full of luggage. The 50k mile average was about 23.5mpg (maybe 75% local and 25% freeway) 2. The trunk in the bed is more useful than you might think. And its BIG too. We use it every single day. Groceries, tools, general stuff. The only and rare times that its a pain is on a long road trip where the bed is full of stuff. (can't open the lid unless you take 1/2 the stuff out of the bed). But that's maybe 1 or 2 times a yr so it's no biggie. 3. The Audio system is pretty good. SUB does very well. 4. Its VERY comfortable. Seats are semi-firm and in 50k miles they were excellent. It has ANC and the cabin is quiet. Even on non-stop 1000+ mile trips (18hrs of non-stop driving) you never get saddle sore. 5. It brakes, handles, and when you rev it out it performs very well. (I had the 6 speed auto but this new one has the 9sp) 6. Visibility is very good. Much better than a sedan and I think even better than a comparable SUV. 7. Tailgate. We almost always opened it sideways. It does have a long swing radius. So when backing in.. you have to give a little thought to the car or wall behind you. CONS: Not many. A. We had the cloth seats which were a pain to get cat hair out of. They also got a bit dirty and I had to do a super clean on them before I turned then in. B. We drove in in the salt / snow. I was very surprised the lugnuts got rusty during the first few times we drove in the salt. Nothing else on the RL got corrosion though. Weird C. I had the Honda hard bed cover. It was ok but I wound up removing it about 3-4 times per yr to haul something sizable. On road trips it was awesome as its lockable. I'm on the fence if I should get it on the new 23 model or not. I need to look at the aftermarket ones. D. The door panels are TALL and flat. We got a few door dings in parking lots. IMO Honda could toughen up the door panels or maybe use plastic ones.

[@DazdnCofuzd]

Both are nice and both have their purpose. To me the Ridgeline is more for a person who wants comfort of a crossover, but with some utility of a truck. Nissan is more off road oriented vehicle, so for those who want to weekend camping in the mountains etc If I had to choose between the two, I'd go Ridgeline as I don't need a full on truck for my lifestyle. Now, want to see Santa Cruz vs. Ridgeline vs. Maverick....

[@rick7439]

Huge Nissan and Honda fan. Loved the Ridgeline when the second gen came out but I just can’t make myself buy it. No truck should only have 7.6 inches of ground clearance. The passport has 8.1 and the new frontier has 9.4. Honda has an awesome AWD system. Honda just needs TO RAISE UP THE FREAKING TRUCK!!!! Give it the ground clearance and bigger tires we want from the factory. Not those stupid “fender flares”. And another thing Honda, why can you get ventilated seats in the passport and pilot but not the Ridgeline when they are all basically the same? The crazy thing is that Canada does get ventilated seats in the Ridgeline. Canada!? Is it hotter there then Texas?? WTF Honda

[@cleanasdirt6832]

Here in British Columbia, the summer of 2021 had temperatures of 49 Celsius which is for Americans 120 F. Unless Texas hit a higher temperature, then we were hotter than Texas. 😂 I have a 2022 Ridgeline touring trim, which is similar to the RTL-E in America. I agree with your questioning about Canadian Ridgelines have heated and ventilated seats.🇨🇦

[@stevenc9207]

Why does Honda have to raise it up? 99% of people never leave the pavement, so no, most people don't need it raised up and would prefer the better car like driving experience.

[@1MarkKeller]

There are great aftermarket lift kits for the Ridgeline/Passport/Pilot.

[@tomdavis3038]

Unless you’re off roading the lower stance is better for stability and handling. And I’ve seen a lot of off roading and have never seen a Ridgeline nit even in a forest road. I see them a lot at shopping centers though Cheers

[@smartbbrain]

Fellow Texan, hard agree with you on the ventilated seats. It's one of my must haves for my next car. At least this model should have remote start as an option if not standard. That combined with ventilated seats means I should never have to cook myself in my car again.

[@Offshore1977]

I love that the Ridgeline wheel wells in the bed don’t protrude as much as most pickups.

[@phild9813]

I thought the same but figured the bed wasn’t as deep as a result.?

[@aaronbehindbars]

@@phild9813 It is not as deep, but that can be both an asset and liability. The raised bed floor allows for the trunk and spare tire compartment. It makes reaching over the bed sides to grab cargo a bit easier. Being a pickup, the sky is literally the limit for loading cargo, but that shallow bed does make having a bed cover a little less convenient as I have confirmed with mine. The extra width of the bed helps make up for that shortfall. After nearly 3 months of Ridgeline ow ership, I have found that ot is an overall very easy to live with vehicle in general and in regards to the bed functionality.

[@xREALx6]

Makes loading up a quad into the bed that much easier with out the wheel wells. Perfect for desert season

[@TheDavidCBrown]

I'd get the frontier ultimately, but the ridgeline has some really great features.

[@Idahoguy10157]

Honda doesn’t claim the Ridgeline to be a body on frame traditional pickup truck. It’s an attractive option for anyone or any family not needing a full on traditional work truck.

[@mozeby1975]

Appreciate you guys being so thorough. Also like that you show rear seat space and comfort. Those of us who have families to move around in these need to know these things.

[@GPG7754]

I really wanted a frontier but the backseat are just too small. Why could they not squeeze two more inches out of the cab? The hood has plenty of inches to spare. C'mon nissan.

[@shawnhazen1591]

Notice he didn't squeeze his 5'10" body into the Frontiers back seat, that'd be pretty telling I think.

[@davidashworth4675]

My 2021 Ridgeline is the most comfortable truck/vehicle I have ever owned some 48 or so purchases …. Stack it up against them all for daily driving and long trips…

[@ROBinJVILLE]

im not a nissan guy but the frontier looks sweet. id choose the honda tho, i dont offroad so the 4 low thing isnt an issue. better ride, better mpgs, possibly more reliable? also, i love that bed storage so much.

[@rondail5675]

100% agree

[@ubangiestomp]

Same here also. That bed storage is a sweet trick. I'd use that alot...

[@ubangiestomp]

@A B Good point. 👍

[@nilsjohansson9739]

I had my last Frontier for 14 years before I bought a Titan. Reliability is comparable so long as you maintain them both.

[@NYstranger74]

Nissan v6s are usually just as g2g

[@mikecampbell5856]

The Ford Explorer and Jeep Grand Cherokee are unibody vehicles and they don't get criticised. Most people I know use their trucks for commuting and occasional hauling. The Honda should be just fine.

[@r6TrdSlow]

Agreed. Road and Track (or Car and Driver, one of the two) had a long term ridgeline for a while and they put about 40,000 miles or so. They loved it. They even said that for what they were using it for, the rear Independant suspension helped the vehicle feel more stable when loaded down. It was a neat write-up. Not to market another company, but it’s one of the only long term reviews of one of those that I’ve read that started out not biased on “oh it’s not a real truck” kinda thing I love that these TFL guys are also open minded like that. Been a long time fan of theirs and it’s been fun to watch them grow and also keep the same charm that got me hooked so many years ago

[@osamaismymama7907]

The explorer definitely got criticized. So much so that they ended up going back to making them rear wheel drive. And those are vehicles that don’t see off road or towing either.

[@jg8263]

@@r6TrdSlow The review you speak of was the one that settled the debate for me. I got the Ridgeline shortly after.

[@r6TrdSlow]

@@jg8263 nice!

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Back in early July 2021, we took my friends 2021 Honda Ridgeline (looks just like the one in this video), but has a 3.5” lift kit and 32.1” tires up to Imogene pass from the Ouray side. This is a 14.1K elevation mountain pass. No overheating and no issues. The ZF9 makes all the difference, glad they switched to it. It’s geared 20:1 vs. the old Ridgelines 14:1.

[@jg8263]

I love your videos man! Glad to see you posting here.

[@ervlichterman4714]

Love my Ridgeline. Does everything a truck should do, in comfort. Unbelievable capacity.

[@jg8263]

@life phobic So, I am a data analyst for a $3bn in assets credit union that finances about $500 million in new and used auto loans in WI, MI, MN, and IL annually. My job is to make sure we know what people are buying. Fun facts: over 50% of the mid-sized trucks we finance DO NOT HAVE THE MAX TOW PACKAGES! This means that the Honda can out-tow 50% of the mid-sized trucks sold up here in the snow belt, as without that package most of the mid-sized trucks have less than 5000lbs of towing (Colorado 3500, Tacoma 3500, Frontier 3790). Even more interesting, the most popular F150 trim (here and in the US in general) is the XL with the 3.3l engine, without the optional 3.73 axle (stock is 3.55 axle). This configuration of F150 maxes towing at 5000lbs and 1700lbs payload. Given these are the way people are buying them, I would say the Honda is absolutely capable of meeting or exceeding those buyers' needs, as they so far are being served buy even less capable to equally capable trucks. Don't look at the max numbers quoted, or the maxed-out ones sent to reviewers, look at the actual market data. Now, credit where it is due, the majority of the new Rangers sold up here do have the tow package. Now, objective reality. Up here in the snowbelt, most people have AWD or 4x4 in their vehicles, due to our lovely winters (come up to snowy Houghton MI, where the annual snowfall is over 200 inches and it already snowed last week). That said, the vast majority of 4x4 owners do not go any further off-road than the AWD folks up here do. We are not up here rock crawling in the snowy midwest. I have a friend who admitted that he has not actually used the 4wd in his last 2 trucks for off-road/mud, but rather just to get out of his driveway in the morning before the plows come there, which his wife's AWD Chevy Traverse does just as well as his truck. It is easy to say "a truck must off-road and tow" but he reality is that most truck owners do neither, or at least do not do so to a degree to require the capability level they are buying. The truth is, you don't need a TRD Pro to go to the grocery store and drive down a snowy gravel road.

[@pagodad2036]

@@jg8263 great info. Much appreciated.

[@A_Based_Entity]

@@jg8263 This is the most beautiful comment on truck towing data I have ever seen. Thank you for this!

[@dreamaviation381]

The Ridgeline is a good truck with good performance and smoother ride with plenty of storage space. It’s also a good customizable truck if needed for the sporty guys.

[@franky-fr9ow]

What about parking?

[@WW-wf8tu]

I have promoted Nissan pickup trucks since the early 90's for a great price, great reliability and functionality over its competition. So, I stick to my guns that if I had a need for a "Truck" to do "truck work" I would stick to the Nissan. The Ridgeline is badass for a city/suburban dweller for light duty. Crazy amount of cool stuff and reliability that if you only had 1 vehicle parking spot, I would opt for that.

[@stevencastro2856]

Do you think this first year model will be reliable or should I give it a few years to see? I like to hold on to my vehicles for 10+ years

[@Genx.WRKG68]

I went truck shopping and purchased a Ridgeline. I'm not someone who will be going off road often and the Ridgeline meets my needs. The drive is smooth. That said, The Frontiers look much improved from past versions I've seen.

[@estebandelgadillo7103]

It's crazy to see how long I've been watching this channel. In 2017 I was in need of a pick up truck and wanted something capable and fun. I was leaning towards a Ridgeline. In my research I came upon this channel. I ended up with a 17 Tacoma Off Road. Now, it's pretty cool to see how this channel continues to make great, informative content and how I can still compare my choice to today's offerings.

[@FAngus-ly8lk]

I grew up in Northern Alberta and have been driving in harsh winter conditions since the mid-1970s. I have driven many, many highway miles in the Cdn prairies, Rockies and the mountainous interior of BC. 7.6 vs 9.4 inches of underbody height is a lot less important than the experience and skill of the driver, a good set of winter tires, and how well the roads are plowed. An inch or two more of clearance under the chassis isn't going to make a lick of difference in conditions of extreme ice or in a low-visibility blizzard or whiteout. No sensible motorist dives in deep snow if they can possibly help it. Sure, sometimes you have no choice, but if you have with 5-6 inches or more of snow on the road, the sensible thing to do is to stay off the road altogether and wait for the road crews to come. Even if you are well-equipped in a good 4-wheel drive vehicle, why expose yourself to the inevitable risk of sharing snowy roads with inexperienced drivers on inadequate summer or all-season tires? Are you talking about off-roading in deep snow? How many people actually do that? Almost none, I'd say.

[@DCSPORTSTER]

I have a 2010 EXL Honda ridgeline it’s got over 200,000 on it now still drives like brand new. The steering is light and the ride is awesome. I especially like the trunk very useful. Pay load is 1500 pounds and can lay 4x8 drywall in the bed for transport. The all wheel drive system is awesome in the snow especially with snow tires on it it’s like it’s glued to the road. This truck it’s an all round great vehicle. And as far as not being a real truck i’ve got news for you real trucks come with airbrakes

[@americandude3825]

Ever have to replace the timing belt?

[@bubbicus]

@@americandude3825 What is your fascination with replacing the timing belt? How many other vehicles on the road require their timing belts to be replaced at 100k miles? Too many to count. It's strange to be so focused on something that a huge number of existing vehicles have to do as well. Who has ever said when buying a new vehicle, "Sheesh, am I going to have to replace the timing belt at some point?" Most people don't even make it to 100k miles before they switch to a newer vehicle so it's never even a question. That being said, it sure would be nice if everyone switch to timing chains instead of rubber belts.

[@americandude3825]

@@bubbicus exactly my point. My Toyotas have chains. My sequoia has 204k miles. I keep my vehicles way past 100k. Belts are way to cut costs. $1000-1500 for a belt service is stupid ridiculous.

[@07HDDriver]

I love my Taco, but… the Ridgeline does carry 500 lbs more payload and is way better to drive on the daily. Sure it won’t keep up off road, but that doesn’t matter to everyone.

[@NoelKunz]

this is the boat I'm on. Need a truck to lug equipment for what I do for work, and need something to drive daily and carry people, but I won't be towing anything or going off road. I happen to like the features better, so it's a better choice for ME, even though the Frontier is also amazing. I'm just saying this as to not discount the Honda for being unibody. It's the better fit for what I need and like.

[@jg8263]

Exactly, in fact that payload is the dirty secret of the Tacoma. Let's look at a 4000lb trailer (a ski boat in the mid 20 foot range or a 18-20 foot camper would fit this category, or a couple UTVs on a trailer) with 15% tongue weight and a 200lb driver, what I would say is a fairly typical towing scenario for a mid-sized truck. So you have 600lbs of tongue weight and 200lbs of driver to subtract from your payload. So Taco is 1100-800 for 300lbs of remaining capability for passengers and cargo, whereas the Honda is 1600-800 for 800lbs of remaining capability. So the Honda could take my wife and 2 kids along for the ride with capability to spare, the Tacoma could not (I would have to leave 1 person behind). So yes, with just a single driver and no passengers, the Tacoma could (in specific configurations) out-tow the Honda, but in a real life scenario, the Honda is actually better at being a truck. Of course, this leaves out the fact that the Honda is the only mid-sized truck that can haul 4x8 material flat in the bed. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but notice the only mid-size that can do this.... is from the one company that doesn't offer a half-ton model to "upgrade" you to.

[@PaulNaylor3]

Refreshing to see a fair take on the Ridgeline.

[@rawniew]

Yeah its not a bad truck but when you compare prices to toyota its hard to justify paying more for unibody front wheel drive minivan with the back cut off

[@PaulNaylor3]

@@rawniew AWD standard on Ridgeline.

[@rawniew]

@@PaulNaylor3 yes but it's still based on the Odyssey powertrain which is primarily fwd and awd when it needs it. Which is fine for most people, but the fact its base price is the same as a Tundra a vastly superior truck. I would prefer a stripped down Ridgeline and starting price in the low 20s

[@mct8888]

@@rawniew so how do you justify a truck with drum brakes in 2021?

[@rawniew]

@@mct8888 drum brakes are not my favorite but they are reliable

[@ironyusa3885]

I gave up worrying about "macho" and went for "logical." Love my ridgeline.

[@mattm7798]

Yeah, the whole macho thing is for people insecure with themselves most of the time. Still, the new styling on the ridgeline is welcome.

[@sammyjammy6647]

Yes and I went even more logical and got a RAV4 hybrid. At almost 52 years of age there’s no insecurity or mid-life crisis going on here ;)

[@RagingBad]

@@mattm7798 not everyone that likes masculine looking things are insecure, is just a matter of taste and preference, you're insecure calling other people insecure trying to justify a purchase

[@RagingBad]

@@sammyjammy6647 but inside you wish you had a truck, going logical many times doesn't make you happy, specially at 52

[@sammyjammy6647]

@@RagingBad shouldn’t we be going logical when purchasing a conveyance that takes you from A to B? You can save that money for travel, clothing, and entertainment.

[@PhillipMicah]

I've never had a problem with the Ridgeline, it would work just fine for what most people use trucks for. The new Frontier looks amazing and I really like the interior as well, especially when compared to the outdated Honda, and I like the engine/trans combo better too so I would go with the Frontier.

[@nbaldo003]

Outdated? Dude the ridgeline has the best interior out of all the midsize, the heck are you talking about? lol

[@mechmat12345]

@@nbaldo003 That screen is from 2014 or earlier. Generally the interior looks just like any other Honda which means it's meh.

[@tvmotocrazy5178]

Frontier screen looks good but seems very slow. Watch many review of new frontier none of them go in to how infotainment system works well and respond good. I guess Nissan asked to just mention how big screen is.

[@jasonmcmaster4968]

I agree with the engine/trans combo. Honda is lacking there BUT it does just fine for what most people want in a midsize. I don’t know about outdated. The screen leaves something to be desired but I use Apple car play so it doesn’t bother me. As far as the rest of the interior, they compared a base model Ridgeline to a top level Frontier. Pretty horrendous comparison. My RTL-E’s leather interior is insanely comfortable and makes it feel much more modern than the cloth seats do.

[@RagingBad]

@@nbaldo003 that's not a truck interior, it looks like a soccer mom SUV interior

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

Ridgeline all day haven't used the frontier but I have used the Ridgeline towing 5k pounds and still got 25mpg while doin it, it also out preformed my old 03 silverado 4.8 v8 in everyway.

[@zeric_]

First time truck buyer. Traded in my 2013 Mercedes Benz E350 that I've owned for 7 years. I decided to go with a 2022 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition. We own a house, live in the city, and having a truck was mandatory. So the switch from Luxury Sedan to Truck needed to make sense. The features this vehicle comes with are unique and doesn't really have any competition: - Huge cabin space (front and rear) - Luxury interior with great sound system - Android Auto/Apple car play - wireless charging - Mpg nearly same as Benz - Ultimate Tailgate. Truck bed audio with lockable cargo space - 2022 version of the Ridgeline is a more aggressive good looking truck. I've gotten a lot of compliments 👍 I'm also a younger guy and the feedback I've gotten when sharing my truck and it's features have been great! A lot of my friends are considering this truck now. The tailgate options being their favorite features!

[@GabrielTF106B]

With my Ridgeline I-go to the office, to the movies, road trip, beaches, off-road and yesterday took it to the track (best run was 91.8 mph in a 1/4 mile drag strip). So for me, is a good all around fun and versatile truck.

[@sammyjammy6647]

Lol you took a Ridgeline to the track? One thing you notice when you get a car that’s not performance oriented you start to realize how crazy people are on the roadways driving 80+ average and wonder why they’re in such a hurry. Buy yourself a hybrid and you’ll know what I’m talking about

[@GabrielTF106B]

@@sammyjammy6647 Lol!!! I know! Was a fun Sunday. The idea was doing something different. In the past I went with performance cars but with the Ridgeline was fun and different. In the street, I’m going relaxed lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6bbl6mZn6pgqMk

[@RagingBad]

You call gravel roads off road?

[@RagingBad]

You call gravel roads off road?

[@GabrielTF106B]

@@RagingBad if it is off paved streets it is off road.

[@Etruscan70]

The older frontier was an ultra reliable platform, waiting to see how this new frontier pans out because it’s just about time for a new truck. Time will tell.

[@D_F_L_]

It’s actually the same platform

[@isaac4273]

I hope you're not talking about the generations with the SMOD issue 😂 I mean unless you got the standard transmission

[@BrokeSpaceLaser]

@@isaac4273 you mean the issue that was corrected over a decade ago?

[@thefleas]

@@D_F_L_ Same frame, but the engine, transmission and electronics are all new.

[@D_F_L_]

@@thefleas engine came out in 2021, not new but newish I guess. I think they said the 21 v6 has 93% different parts or something? They should improve the software or more torque. I’d prefer the truck to go 0-60 under 7 seconds like the ranger for Better payload/towing ability. Transmission is not a new one in terms of Jatco technology. Mercedes uses the same transmissions in some of their older cars. New electrics for sure. Surprisingly the trd off road tacoma trim’s payload is only at like 1150 pds. The pro4x trim payload is 1300 ponds which is better than the Tacoma trd off road. And also the towing number on a Tacoma is heavily misleading. The new frontier tows less on paper but I think it tows better with more weight near 5800 pound even though the Tacoma has a higher towing capabilities paper but that’s just my real world experience between the 2 trucks. The 2 things I dislike about the frontier is the lowest break over angle out of any truck which isn’t great for off roading compared to the zr2, trd pro, gladiator, and the turning radius is the worst by a long shot (only second to the gladiator). Has anyone tried turning or doing a u-turn on the new frontiers? Is it really that bad turning or don’t u-turns in the city or parking lots? Or is it manageable after awhile, practice 3-6 point turns?

[@BorellaFamilyAdventures]

You guys usually do a great job on the reviews but you completely misrepresent the drivetrain comparison. You dismiss that the ridgeline has a Transverse drivetrain like a car or crossover and the Frontier has a longitudinal configuration with a truck-based transmission. You also missed out on the dual-clutch rear diff on the Honda and the rear locker on the Nissan.

[@fritty9927]

I be owned two Ridgelines; I currently drive a Tundra and FJ. I never drove anything that got they snow better than those Ridgelines; and I’ve owned a ton of 4 wheel drives.

[@smiley3303]

AWD kicks a$$. I have a Yukon XL Denali that has AWD and I think it is amazing in the winter. Ice and snow it dominates.

[@jeffho1727]

Ridgeline AWD is sweet, just gives you a little kick in the seat to remind you you are driving stupid..

[@jg8263]

The best video to demonstrate your point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH_HpGSZfceCaM0 filmed from Honda as it goes around "real trucks" whose 4x4 RWD biased trucks can't get up an icy hill. Sadly, not my video, but I have done the same here in Wisconsin.

[@OSUCherokee1]

Ridgeline seems to be better at many of the things that actually matter. 1. Standard towing features 2. MUCH better bed in terms of size, material, lockable storage, tailgate access, power outlet 3. AWD, which is far superior to 4WD in 99.99% of driving. 4. Interior is more spacious and comfortable with better rear storage. 5. Better efficiency

[@tikitak1155]

It's really up to the individual. If you want something that resembles a truck, but not REALLY a truck because your most exciting truck adventure would be hauling your yoga mats to your yoga class....then by all means...call it a truck. It's your money. Have at it. If you even want to call it an off road truck because you drove it on an unpaved driveway once...go ahead... Your money...your choice. I'm a Tacoma and F150 kind of guy, but as far as you're concerned.....those might just be minivans.

[@lions208436]

The Ridgeline does many things well, but the Frontier can actually do trails. It also locks the tailgate when you lock your doors. Lastly, the Ridgeline is between 8 to 10 grand more than the Nissan, and more than 5k more than a comparable Tacoma.

[@geoffdennis8382]

Best truck I ever owned ,full sized or otherwise, was my 2005 Ridgeline and I'm in the market for another one.

[@geoffdennis8382]

@@lions208436 Fyi. The Ridgeline can also be enabled to lock the tailgate when you lock the doors. My 2005 came to me this way. I disabled it because anything I wanted secured was locked already in trunk inside the bed. You can have it either way.

[@tikitak1155]

@@geoffdennis8382 - Hey, to each their own. I've been called a sissy for driving a Taco, and I'm cool with that. If I dish it, then I can take it as well.

[@christopher9626]

Great vid, Boys! Two of my current favorite vehicles. If I had to buy one tomorrow, I wouldnt be able to decide between the 2

[@rondail5675]

I agree. I have a 2019 Ridgeline but really like the new Frontier.

[@karsusthegreat9536]

I really like seeing these types of videos, but I wish their criteria was a bit different. Which one is more comfortable to drive and is generally more livable? Which one will more easily get to 200k miles without major issues? Which one will more comfortably pull 3k or so lb trailer from time to time? Which one will get me around in increment weather more safely? Which one can I drive down dirt/gravel roads with 6-8 inches of unplowed snow without getting stuck? Can I get across a muddy field reliably? These are the questions that really matter for a mid sized pickup.

[@smudgeone]

They did cover the points you mention. They're not going to do much more on a press tour. Comfortable to drive - the Honda as 4 wheel independent suspension, unibody construction. Reliability - Nissan Gas trucks generally get high mileage with some easy repairs, Honda has a penchant for reliability but reliability is not really something that can be judged on a new car review. Towing - the frontier is set up slightly better for towing. Inclement weather - the one you buy good tires for, but the AWD on the Honda gives a slight edge. 4x4 stuff - Frontier with better tires because low range and rear locker.

[@RagingBad]

If you want all of that get the Nissan, but you ask a lot of shit that can be found in other videos, do your research

[@busydadscooking001]

Ridgeline is the only midsize that can fit 4x8 sheets between the wheel wells :) Nobody seems to care, though; people buy whichever of these 2 they like better and they generally only like one or the other.

[@tenncutt]

So can my wife's Grand Caravan. And close the hatch too. Funny thing her registration lists it as a Dodge Truck!

[@johnchann6854]

Hello thanks for the comparison. ... Yep just bought a Honda Ridgeline, my wife and I love it. It's 78.6 inches wide but it drives small. I still got my 2007 tundra 5.7 liter to pull my boat. Again liked your video. Thank you young man. Stay safe.

[@loganholmberg2295]

I'd buy the Ridgeline over the Nissan Frontier. Your getting Honda "dependability" plus all that storage. It's a great family hauler plus a truck. If I was going 4x4ing all the time I'd get the Nissan sure but for an everyday vehicle that will easily get me to a trailhead or the lake, I'd take the Ridgeline all day. In the end, it all depends on what you need. And Unibody is NOT the end of the world, They've been making unibody for decades now. They have all the kinks and limitations figured out. As long as the Honda meets your payload and towing needs I say go for it. I know I'd kill to have that lockable storage box in my truck bed. I need to haul things and the tonneau cover just won't work for me. Just make sure you get that after-market transmission cooler though on both as I don't think either company offers one at this point?

[@ctrguy]

Great, accurate review!! I live in SoCal so not much off-roading. I’ve driven both & the driving comfort & interior room of the Ridgeline truly stands out!! 😎

[@northerntoyota7584]

Can’t wait to test a new pro 4x frontier. Best looking mid sized truck

[@williamhaskett4371]

The bed storage on the Ridgeline can be used as an ice chest, especially as it has a drain. You also didn't cover the AC socket or the bed speakers. I have had my Ridgeline since 2018. I was about to buy a Taco back then but I am very glad I didn't. Ridgeline may not be the truck you want, but it certainly is the truck you need. I like the comment regarding the towing and carrying capacities. If you have to tow or carry a lot, you probably aren't looking at a mid-size pickup in the first place.

[@isaac4273]

You sir, are 100% right. The only thing that still makes me prefer the Tacoma is the availability of the manual transmission

[@dbradusc1]

"Truck" does not exclusively mean off-roading and towing. The ridgeline has higher payload than a fullly loaded tundra and is the only midsize that can fit 4x8 sheet goods.

[@tray22]

I have owned 2 Frontiers and never had issues hauling 4x8 sheets of drywall, ply, etc. Did they make their bed smaller so it no longer fits?

[@dbradusc1]

@@tray22 some of the older ones might be wider but everything I see for current models back to 2012 or so shows 44" width between the wheel wells on the Frontier. My father in law has had 3 Frontiers and he does major renovations so it must work somehow. In the Ridgeline I can fit a 4x8 sheet flat between the wheel wells, allowing a stack of plywood or sheetrock, most I have carried is 17 sheets of 3/4 birch.

[@tray22]

@@dbradusc1 the sheets would sit on the wheel wells so I just added a few scrap boards in the middle or if I also bought 2x4s stacked them up in the middle. Just for support.

[@TermlessHGW]

@@tray22 yea but why would you want to do that owning a truck. Back in 2017 I was in the market for a midsize truck and basically had to go with Ridgeline because no other midsize would fit a sheet without fiddling like in the Wrangler pickup for example. No regrets though and no problems except basic maintenance.

[@tray22]

@@TermlessHGW it takes no time to put your stick lumber in first. If you aren't able to work around the wheel wells in a truck you likely shouldn't be working with building materials.

[@hukmai]

Love my Ridgeline, just wish the Ridgeline had more aftermarket support 2017 blackedition @147k miles

[@whiskeyearned1543]

I just picked up a 22 Frontier Pro 4X yesterday, upgrading from a 2019 Frontier SV and let me tell you, Nissan nailed everything. I will not be buying another truck for a very long time.

[@bryanbowen4193]

Congrats

[@lancelotlink3907]

What do you think of the engine and transmission so far?

[@cs1992]

Nice looking trucks. Did you buy or lease?

[@whiskeyearned1543]

@@lancelotlink3907 The transmission is really smooth so far. Haven't experienced any odd shifting. I definitely prefer the 9 speed over the 5 speed I had previously. The engine power doesn't seem much different.

[@whiskeyearned1543]

@@cs1992 I bought it. Got a pretty good deal on my trade in since it only had 10,000 miles.

[@DM-fv7hw]

The Ridgeline just needs a dash/infotainment update.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

Yes I agree. . . A whole lotta upgrade updates with tech on the center infotainment console, that us already being used on some Honda/Acura vehicle models. Those are much snappier in the touch control use, and have better vivid colors and clarity on the screen and camera

[@travisstrickland7270]

Yea I think so other than that Ridgeline blows most midsized trucks out the water overall in every day driving space and usage

[@jenarddecastro2597]

@@travisstrickland7270 I especially like the fact that I can fit a bicycle in the back cab with those seats up, and *NOT* have to remove the front wheel!!!

[@AlaskanSnowLeopard]

This model is still based off of the 2017 model. I don't think Honda will upgrade the infotainment until the gen 3 Ridgeline come out.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

@@AlaskanSnowLeopard I know, I'm currently in the market for a 2017 or 2018 model with AWD, cause I can't justify paying the inflated cost currently in this market.

[@ryanelliott822]

I’d get the Honda all day.Honda will out last the frontier and I prefer the bed on the Honda.

[@ajmedeiros77]

Funny the old model frontier was actually very reliable but it was old reliable technology. This new one, I’ll pass give it a few years and see.

[@andregonsalvez9244]

Great video ! The main difference is the Nissan is your traditional truck with a full frame and rides like a truck , the Honda is unitized sub frame and more car like ride .

[@aaronhome27]

Honda has the VTM 4 low lock. So it does have a 4 wheel low but it's a true 4 wheel lock that many, trucks still don't have. I hade the switch to Ridgeline in 2015. Styling I wasn't a fan of but with some mods I made my black edition look decent. Formerly I was a die hard Toyota owner for 25 years. I can honestly say that I'll never go back to a standard pickup. Comfort is a huge benefit of the Ridgeline. I do some some off road and trail riding and the Ridgeline light to medium performance is so much more comfortable and Uber reliable. I do haul plywood and drywall often as well and the Ridgeline been is where it shines. I can toss extra tools needed for the day, in the trunk and toss 4x8 sheets in the bed and they lay flat. I'm not a Honda fanboy by, anymeans and always looking for the next truck to meet my, needs. As of now I have no complaints on the Ridgeline and very happy to see the new design update giving the truck a more manly appeal. The previous model were flat ugly.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

I wish you guys featured more testing on the Ridgeline during the Winter when Colorado still had snow earlier this year. . . Now you guys gotta do a Winter snow driving comparison of these two on the next heavy snow fall to really see what they can do and what the limits and capabilities they had under those real-time harsh conditions. . . Mud & dirt is fine, but Snow is a real world condition that most people in the North American region have to contend with and hate (which is why I stay my butt in sunny 🌞 Southern California!)

[@jenarddecastro2597]

Yeah, we SoCal folk go to or experience snowy conditions "occasionally" (rarely) 😜

[@geoffdennis8382]

I'm from Canada and the Ridgeline is great in the snow.I love the snow by the way.

[@RyanHennessy-yt8zn]

I have a 22 Ridgeline and I can assure you that it is more than capable in the snow especially because it has the 9 speed transmission as opposed to the previous 6. Ridgeline fits my lifestyle the best. Love the trunk and I do not have any desire to go off road. If I wanted to go off road I would get an old true 4x4.on the side. Too nice to mess up.

[@dawnpoint]

The only real problem people have with the Ridgeline is it's not BRO enough. It's a great vehicle and I'd totally get one if I were ready to buy a truck.

[@saliston]

Exactly. It makes them feel insecure so they hate on it b

[@rickyloganjr.2362]

Alex and Kase, excellent video on the Nissan Frontier and Honda Ridgeline. It's great that you are branching out from TFLBike.

[@brianhall23]

Most people who have trucks will never take them off road or use them for work. The Honda would be just fine. In the end get what you need not what others think you need.

[@bigmeany1184]

Exactly!

[@bernadettelindquist3780]

We bought the 2022 Frontier and are enjoying it so far. I am a very small woman and it is very comfortable for me to drive. But the real reason we went with this rather than Ridgeline is the tow capacity. That extra 1600 lbs is huge when you are pulling a 2800 lb trailer. Just not enough cushion with a 5000 lb capacity by the time you add gear. Thanks for the good info.

[@dragorocky]

First time watching you two. Your synergy is crazy. Everything y’all do is perfectly timed and the tempo is just right. Quick , but not fast. I’m in

[@demarcuswatson6874]

"This guy" 😂😂😂 I love yall entire crew man! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@RealMrNails]

Being a bit of a Nissan fanboy and the owner of a 2015 Xterra pro 4X, my choice is obvious. I don't give the Ridgeline as much shit as some other people, but it's not the "truck" for me. "There's someone for everyone."

[@DazdnCofuzd]

Yah, since Hyundai is coining that Sport Activity Vehicle, the Ridgeline falls into that category and not the truck one. I've always liked the Ridgeline, but now seeing the Santa Cruz, its' the one to get.

[@GabrielTF106B]

@@DazdnCofuzd Ridgeline isn’t in the Maverick category. Unibody or body on frame isn’t a category, is construction type. Categories are small, medium or full size and the Ridgeline is a medium size with some full size attributes.

[@saliston]

Bought a 2022 Ridgeline I test drove all the midsize trucks none of them came close to the ride and build quality of the Ridgeline. Also it can haul 4x8 sheets flat none of the others can do that.

[@augustortiz]

Same, I just got a Ridgeline Black Edition. Drove all the others (except the Colorado) and it was by far the best. Couldn’t be happier.

[@King_Kenny66]

I'm likin' the Frontier more myself. Good video guys! :D

[@SPL]

Thumbs👍 up! I had a 2005 Nissan Frontier and upgraded to a 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL this year. For me, the Ridgeline wins in almost every category except the Nissan engine did have more zest. After15 years of feeling every bump in the road it is nice to finally drive around without the drinks in the cupholder spilling out everywhere. Having owned both Ridgeline is better.👊

[@christophertyacke6019]

Why did you not sit in the back seat of the Frontier?

[@jenarddecastro2597]

I know!!!

[@patrickposey623]

Because it's not as comfortable as the ridgeline.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

@@patrickposey623 I think Roman and Andre showed that on an earlier model when they reviewed it, and they are bigger stocky gentlemen I think it was the 2017 model, so with this new one there wasn't really any much changes in the back cab seats

[@JMast]

I have had 2 Ridgeline’s. Absolutely love them.

[@android-ud2nf]

I can’t wait for the next gen ridge line. Hopefully the next gen looks even better but I really like that weather proof storage in the bed

[@andreasm2882]

It's not dust proof though lol. Crazy amount of dust gets inside if you drive down a dirt road.

[@Striker50_]

@@andreasm2882 just put a tarp when closing the lid and you should catch most of the dust with it

[@andreasm2882]

@@Striker50_ yup, lesson learned after it happened the first time. Everything goes into a plastic bag.

[@beerhunt9013]

@@andreasm2882 Maybe it's possible to make a gasket for the lid.

[@2kdad]

I just got my 22 Ridgeline sport and I’m completely happy with it

[@GrantZPrice]

Comparing a base trim to a top trim is an odd choice, must not think your audience is very intelligent

[@secondgenerationcleaning9246]

They’re working with what the manufacturers are giving them for testing. I don’t really think it’s a big deal

[@jonycreche2731]

Just bought the little old lady from Pasadena’s Honda Ridgeline, 2020 RTL-E, only 17680 miles. Tried Frontier, Tacoma all great trucks just they were a little to small cab wise, not a big guy but like my room plus got my dog which weighed heavy on my decision, he fit better in Ridgeline. My opinion the truck must fit the life style, no bad choices out there. Enjoy what ever God blessed you with. BTW at 65 mph was getting 27 to 29 mpg! Heck yeah!

[@keithlynch3086]

I go back and forth, but after test driving them back to back soon I am pretty sure the Ridgeline will win out for what I need.

[@JBM425]

Spot-on analysis. The next edition of the Toyota Tacoma had better be a good one, because Nissan just fired a major shot off their bow. I don't think the Ridgeline would necessarily appeal to many Tacoma buyers due to the Tacoma's offroad abilities, but they definitely have something to worry about from Nissan. A lot of people who wouldn't think of owning a Ridgeline might find it actually more than meets 98% of their needs and is in a more fuel efficient and comfortable package to boot.

[@dad2817]

No one looking at the offroad version of the midsizers will even consider the hpd. People who want a box but still want car like ride handling and mpg the ridgelne ( non hpd ) is a great fit

[@albertmcfry6322]

I’m glad we have a choice on trucks!

[@ericrichards5316]

If the Ridgeline isn't a truck, than neither is the Ford Maverick, Hyundai Santa Cruz or the upcoming Tesla Cyber truck

[@dragorocky]

Exactly. Pickup does NOT = TRUCK. It’s simple: ladder-frame vs smooth ride. They both kick ass, but one is not the other.

[@osamaismymama7907]

Yes, exactly

[@RagingBad]

@@dragorocky no, only one kick ass, the real truck

[@RagingBad]

Yes Einstein, none of them are trucks

[@LigerZeroFtw]

@@RagingBad Most of the people who buy these trucks don't ever leave paved roads anyways so whats it matter?

[@anibaldiogenes3920]

I love my 19 Ridgeline black edition. I use the trunk storage almost on the daily basis. I easily get 23mpg combined and it is super Comfortable. I have filled the bed with Mulch and the truck only squatted a bit and there is enough torque to not feel a difference.The only think I did was installing a leveling kit on mine (Much better leveled). I can’t imagine needing more . Unless I need to tow more which is not the case. Lastly, I don’t need my vehicle to look a certain way to fell “macho”.

[@toolshed7652]

Sarah-n-tuned was getting 23 mpg in the Ridgeline.... in the city!! 😁

[@jenarddecastro2597]

She also gave it a better review with "the beans", cookies, and penguins! But she really tested its capabilities off-road and city/hwy, then put it on the lift and put on her white lab coat to really show off the tech and engineering under the hood and under the vehicle which most reviewers don't feature

[@markohd1075]

On a trip to NY on I-81, the computer showed I was getting 28.3 mpg at 70mph.

[@CoastalKite]

I will always respect the fact that TFL has a mix of older and younger reviewers.

[@CraigSmith568]

I want a standard cab, so both of these aren't a good choice. Also wouldn't get leather seats or a sunroof. I wish I could get it without the big screen too. I do think all trucks should have a tailgate like the Honda. Station wagons had them 50 years ago.

[@81BOOKS]

My favorite part was when the cameraman goes, “this guy” 😂

[@cintocrunch]

A top trim midsize truck that doesn’t come with the hitch and wiring preinstalled? I can forgive that on lower trims but come on, that’s pathetic.

[@dannyg5636]

They all.come ready for plug and play trailer wiring and many of the pro4x dont come with it because of ye offroad package not to say that you can't get it.

[@spyder000069]

Since it was a manufacturer loaner truck they may not have equipped that on purpose.

[@OSUCherokee1]

I thought that was funny too, "This truck is the more trucklike, but notice it doesn't come with a standard tow hitch or wiring." hmmmmmm

[@kief4diamonds]

never hear shit from anyone about my 6.7 2500 cummins. quad cab 4x4. get all sorts of compliments on my ridgeline. go figure. its practical. very well made.

[@mikeowens3739]

If you want to do a better comparison with the 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro X, use the 2021 Honda Ridgeline RTE not the Sport

[@frankbeams4333]

Exactly what i was thinking thank you

[@frankbeams4333]

Or Black Edition

[@jasongaudreau2075]

I’m a frontier owner so I am biased. And as in many of these comments…buy what you want for your needs. That’s all. I personally will put a small lift on the new frontier for bigger tires bringing clearance height and a little bit of articulation for traction. I do trails etc. but honestly considered a ridge line as 90% of my mileage is commuting on pavement.

[@UD747RED]

I think the clear winner is the Nissan Frontier in many ways. Ridgeline needs some upgrades to compete the Nissan.

[@rondail5675]

I like them both. They both have some missing features. I have a Ridgeline because it does ride/drive like a SUV. But if I could do some off-roading, I would pick the Frontier. Snow is my only obstacle. Ridgeline AWD is one of the best.

[@josegutierrez3486]

I prefer the Frontier, I do like the under bed storage of the Honda.

[@ScarletKnightmare]

The reason the steering is heavier on the Frontier is because it's hydraulic power steering whereas the Ridgeline (and most modern vehicles) have electric power steering.

[@kenhoward3512]

Come on now: Hydraulic power steering - like electric - can be any weight it's designed to be. Are you old enough to remember when big American cars typically had steering wheels you could easily turn with one finger lightly on the wheel, even standing still?

[@ScarletKnightmare]

@@kenhoward3512 I am, and thank you for your good point. I should've clarified that effort needs to be added to electric power steering whereas, if anything, it needs to be removed from hydraulic systems e.g. '74 Cadillac. Only Mazda to my knowledge is placing emphasis on steering weight in their electric systems. Other brands do give you an option via "sport mode" or whatever they may call it to indicate user-selectable preference.

[@SwarmAM]

AS IT SHOULD BE! Hard work for a real truck unlike the pavement princess honda

[@ScarletKnightmare]

@@SwarmAM lol. We've found the stereotype. Just by the way, if you don't own a class 6 or above truck, you don't own a real truck. I own a class 8, ordered a Ford Maverick, and own every class in between. You need a hobby besides strange flexing on KZbin 🤷

[@herbertsungahid]

@@ScarletKnightmare you BURNED him.🤣

[@misohoney4656]

Those Ridgeline fender flares and rims have to go. They are the ugliest things I've ever seen.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

That's just for the "HPD" package for 2021. The hardest part is finding a 2021 Sport model that *isn't* a HPD. I can't justify paying that much extra if it doesn't enhance performance, it's strictly for "looks"

[@freedomstar3814]

The best part about the fender flares. People pay extra to make the truck look more ugly !

[@iiiiii7680]

First gen frontier did fender flares well (for bigger flares) but small fender flares that sit flush with the wheels look good but that Honda is just a no. The flares stick out past the wheels too and that bothers me so much

[@dragorocky]

All facts

[@jasonfalk7696]

Actually, the Ram Box (I know this isn't being compared), does give you dry lockable storage, and if you have a full bed, you can still get to your spare tire.

[@uttamgala7186]

I personally know Ridgeline owners who use their trucks more like trucks than the run of the mill lifted half ton short box trucks kicking around.

[@dragorocky]

All facts!

[@kevinbarry71]

The Ridgeline is a real truck. Everybody says it is a unibody. Which it is; however it also has a fully boxed latter frame underneath with seven crossmembers. Which is more than some so-called real trucks have. It does everything very well, except that last three or 4% of truck usage which very few people actually ever do.

[@mattonthewater]

First sentence is a lie, the rest is true though.

[@ScarletKnightmare]

@@mattonthewater do you mean the first sentence? Or everything he wrote up til the point he stopped talking about the structure? Reason I ask is because we've been through this with the XJ Cherokee.

[@jrbesa4461]

I got a 2021 HPD and i love it! I dont need to haul over 5000lb and i use it for a daily drive, lowes home, depot full size plywood 1500 payload and secure bath thub under OMG .dont waste your money for the features that you dont need just to be called real truck guy! A comfy ride box at the back will do the job.if you still complain get a fullsize truck

[@rondail5675]

Kevin: There will be a lot of whining here soon as you say it's a truck. Smile and wait for the responses. Boo-hoo, to them. It's a TRUCK.

[@rebelcitysports1outlook713]

Body-on-frame is more resistant to long-term fatigue, impacts, and twisting forces. All important factors for the more serious off-roader, especially rock crawlers. The modular build of body on-frame also makes it easier to replace damaged parts.

[@zacharygoeden1282]

Alex needs to do a long term update on his ram rebel I’m curious

[@TheKingkingg]

I still choose Ridgeline because it fits my needs from a midsized truck.

[@TheKingkingg]

@T-boe the first hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha

[@C-Henry]

Frontier all the way, 2 mpg isn't enough of a different to make up for the other compromises. The Ridgeline may be able to meet 95% of my needs, but the Frontier would meet 99% for a lower initial cost (for a package I would be happy with). And it would take years before that slight difference in MPG made any meaningful impact financially. "How much truck do I really need?" Is a pretty ineffective argument when the lesser truck costs more.

[@LilDiabloRob]

Stop comparing Base vs Top Trim. Compare Base to Base. So yes the frontier has better features and yes Nissan stepped up their game. Finally Nissan is coming back around.

[@mitchellelliott6168]

I’m a Ridgeline owner but also have owned a Frontier prior to this truck. Good review but wish you had compared the black edition to the pro 4 x, better comparison. You get leather, led high end audio system and better interior.. love this Ridgeline for a daily driver because I’m not out climbing any mountains.

[@jenarddecastro2597]

DAILY DRIVING is exactly why I want it. . . I'm in Los Angeles, California, so it would be perfect, and still enough to haul my bicycles and surfboards and small bean trailer

[@ianberry5562]

Ridgeline owner here. I used to store tons of crap in my old trucks bed. It stole a ton of space and made it hard to use. Now it all lives in the trunk and leaves the bed completely free

[@NormandyFoye]

I don’t get the whole “macho” thing with trucks. I’d bet MOST “real” truck owners don’t utilize their vehicles capabilities 95% of the time and aren’t nearly as macho as they think they are. These are the guys that would actually pay the extra $3000 for the purely cosmetic HPD package lol. How insecure

[@owequitit]

Nothing more macho than a brodozer on 36’s being driven by a middle aged women who is no taller than 5’3”… If your truck defines your manliness then you are compensating for something.

[@rsdokc]

Really love my 2021 Ridgeline RTLE. But like that new Frontier they did a great job on the redesign. Fun video guys thx

[@lancelotlink3907]

What do you think of the engine and transmission so far?

[@rsdokc]

@@lancelotlink3907 seems to do pretty well. The V6 has good power and haven't had any major trans problems. Had some issues with the 2019 V8 F150 I sold .

[@mattonthewater]

If you didn’t wear your sisters jeans your keys would fit into your pocket