NEW AVENGERS - How Brian Michael Bendis Saved the Avengers

In this video, Owen explains the history behind the Marvel Comics series, The New Avengers, assessing how Brian Michael Bendis disassembled and reassembled the iconic superhero team and helped turn Earth's Mightiest Heroes into a cornerstone of the Marvel Universe and modern pop culture.
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[@artierupinen5192]

And then Civil War happened and ruined Marvel forever.

[@sheilamartinez4307]

3:53 that panel, it has Ultimate Cap, Wasp and Hulk, and 616 Iron Man, Captain Marvel, and Black Panther. What comic did this image come from and what issue?

[@artierupinen5192]

@Amritansh Mishra I know. :/

[@JB0523]

Marvel Artist: How curvy do you want SpiderWoman to be? Marvel: Yes

[@dinkydotzero]

Now Marvel Artist: How curvy do you want SpiderWoman to be? Marvel: like a 12 year old boy

[@JB0523]

@@dinkydotzero Damn them!!! 😭

[@notasinglesoul1179]

Try Psylock

[@user-tz6po8wp2j]

please don't forget ms marvel

[@robertfalcone3025]

​@@dinkydotzero AGREED 💯

[@arthurarthur6813]

Honestly, Bendis has been like a golden fish for Marvel, making all wishes come true. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I know Brian had his fair share of lazy-writing and questionable writing to say the least, but it’s all overshadowed by the colossal, simply colossal work he’s done, in many ways he shaped Marvel as we know it, with MCU being basically an adaptation of ultimate universe, 616 pulling itself out of the mud by adapting aspects of the ultimate universe, and every new Spider-Man movie relying on ultimate Peter Parker (his best work imho) more than the last one, although never getting what made ultimate Spider-Man so great in the first place.

[@bertanosomething9246]

All good points.

[@dantecrottogini529]

Just the sheer amount of work he's done is impressive. And a lot of it is really good. For almost 2 decades he was at the head of the marvel universe, that's not easy to do

[@fulcrum6760]

The MCU is the ultimate universe minus the edge.

[@TheOrangeDuke01]

The ultimate universe was just a retread of the terrible extreme 90s version of Marvel with a 00 sheen.

[@qwellen7521]

Yeah, His ALIAS run is fantastic. Bendis works well with street level heroes, and small teams. Event comics? Not so much.

[@kevinedie4119]

Originally Bendis was going to have Daredevil join the Team (but as Ronin) however so many people guessed the twist they changed it to Echo instead. Would have preferred DD

[@KenBeeKJV]

Well Daredevil joins the team eventually so he didn't give up on it, same time as The Thing too one of the more unique line up additions in a string of unique line up additions 😆

[@Tyler_W]

This over-delendence on unlredictable plot twists is one of the things I don't like about Bendis books. I love that era of his New Avengers, but I honestly think that good writing amd a well executed reveal more than makes up for a twist that may have been predicted already. Daredevil was added later just so Bendis could say he finally made him an Avenger for a hot second before his inclusion was completely overlooked and never brought up again when his run finally ended after AvX, but it would have been way cooler and far better executed if he just made Matt Murdock an Avenger when he originally planned.

[@MattDraper]

Owen, I've always thought of you as my own personal Brian Michael Bendis.

[@OwenLikesComics]

That's funny, I've always seen you as my own personal Mark Millar.

[@alfiasco2521]

@@OwenLikesComics Both of you guys are amazing and produce great content, Allowing me to understand and learn about comics that I've never read and expanding my understanding for books I have read.

[@alfiasco2521]

Matt your Current batman Morrison run overview is really good and also it would be great if you took another look at IDW TMNT :)

[@tobigrantlbart]

@@OwenLikesComics Crossover talking about the FF confirmed?

[@srstriker6420]

Matt Draper I hope you have catching up with the immortal Hulk comics? 😉

[@GenerationWest]

Bendis pretty much set the framework for the MCU's domination, by making Avengers a top priority for readers, which lead to those readers hyping up the movies for the general audience. With a lot he did that can be criticised, his good work was GREAT.

[@GenerationWest]

@@night6724 That helped majorly too.

[@WinningProduction420]

@@night6724 Bendis didnt write the Ultimates that was Mark Millar. Bendis focused on Ultimate Spider-man

[@nicwinsteadart5330]

Imagine if it was Quesada or Millar? Tony Stark gives up his marriage to mephisto to save War Machine.

[@rjr.6263]

@@nicwinsteadart5330 those plot ties are lazy asf tbh

[@xunliu8696]

Everything he wrote is iconic. Ultimate Spider-Man being the blueprint of most of Spider-Man movies, Katy Pryde having an amazing portrait, and saved avengers

[@carlostamilla6407]

I dunno, I appreciate that bendis put a class heroes like spiderman or wolverine on his team and put it as a financial success, but it kinda disappoint me that his predecessor kurt busiek gets put in the shadows, his avengers run is a masterpiece

[@lancemartin6782]

Busiek's run did rock.

[@vulpixsmi]

There was Geff Jones and Chuck Austin between the two runs.

[@sawtooth808]

@@vulpixsmi shhhh shhhh the less said about Chuck Austen the better.

[@GenghisDon1970]

Busiek's run is WAY better Avengers, as opposed to all star (street?) marvel super heroes

[@TheUnqualifiedNerd]

You and comic tropes are some of the most underrated comic nook culture KZbinrs. Was really hyped for this man, wasn't disappointed

[@OwenLikesComics]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks so much!

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Book not nook

[@presigomez967]

100% agree

[@AprilMoon7]

Dude ,for real. This channel and ComicTropes need waaaay more love

[@jaymesEo6]

This and Casually Comics have become my obsessions lately haha Comic Tropes is just awesome

[@dantecrottogini529]

It's also really impressive how many AMAZING artists he had during his run. It was A-lister after A-lister

[@wanacrymaguire9186]

Yeah

[@peterhopkins4602]

It worked for Claremont.....

[@bertanosomething9246]

Ah back when BMB was a freaking comic book writing beast. How the mighty have fallen.

[@robd1329]

What happened??

[@bertanosomething9246]

@@robd1329 his writing in the last decade hasn't been the best. There are extremely good stuff like his Defenders run but most of his work in Marvel and DC since 2012 has been disappointing and at times bad.

[@robd1329]

@@bertanosomething9246 i didnt know that. Ive been looking to buy this New Avengers run and a shit load od comments say the same thing of his later work being crap

[@robertfalcone3025]

This is one of my FAVORITE Marvel Comics eras

[@VadeRising]

Long story short: -Bendis created his very own Avengers team and it was great. - Civil War happened and his fantastic run was very short lived. - Bendis went insane and lost all his writing talents that made him a super star writer in mid-200's. (Not sure about that part)

[@Tyler_W]

Idk, I liked his post-Civil War, pre-Siege New Avengers. It was some of his other stuff that could be hit or miss. I'm a bit nostalgic for pre-Heroic Age New Avengers, but honestly, I don't think I have liked the vast majority if his books for Marvel or DC now ever since he left the Avengers franchise. Some of his X-Men was interesting which devolved into awfulness overall. Ironheart and his Superman/Action Comics stuff just pissed me off half the time (currently speaking in terms of Superman books). I suppose his Dr. Doom book post-Secret Wars was mostly pretty good from what I remember. That's about it ppst-Avengers. Don't mean to hate, but I stopped loving his work many years ago, but I'll never discount his stuff that I do/did love. He deserves that much respect at the very least.

[@dmkr88db]

Nah mate, his original run of new avengers was fantastic, and some of his other avengers book during that time were also great. The fall from grace came at the 2010s, between Avengers vs X-men and Civil War 2

[@caligulapontifex5759]

As soon as he became a "superstar writer" it went to his head. When you're a nobody you tend to produce the best work. Going SJW certainly didn't help. His dialogues between characters can be horrendous. Something like "I told you yesterday" response "But you didn't tell me yesterday" response "Yes I did" response "Are you sure you told me yesterday" response "I'm pretty sure I told you yesterday" response "Ok, if you're sure you told me yesterday". Garbage like that.

[@IsiahTomas]

I agree with this OP. I still like his work on Powers and noir and procedural stories rely on elements such as dialogue. For me, he went out of step like I used to say Kieth Giffen did about Legion when they relied too heavily on theit eccentric touch to storytelling. See, it's hard to pinpoint it, because both of them have current, modern works that are still really good as well. I wonder if it's just that their ideas on Avengers and Legion just petered out after.

[@ammaarkadri3221]

Mid-200s? Wow he is ancient!

[@fulcrum6760]

If only the rest of the Ultimate universe was done by Bendis.....cause holy hell.

[@wanacrymaguire9186]

Aggreed

[@Gemnist98]

Or at least someone with a similar creative vision as him.

[@ScottCreley]

There are some very strong runs in the Ultimate U. Ellis, Millar, Hickman, Carey. They all have good stuff at various times.

[@vincentfranklin17]

New Avengers was one of best incarnations of the team! Personally, I loved having Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, and Wolverine on the team!

[@mobyt.3900]

I quit reading Avengers during Bendis' run because of his "deliberate pacing". I lost patience when he devoted an ENTIRE issue to the Quintet crashing. I was enraged, "that's it," I yelled gently throwing the book down, "I'm done with Bendis, I am done!" and I didn't return to Avengers till he was gone. He has this tendency to apparently not care if his books are exciting, spending whole issues with a single conversation. If he wants to write stage plays, fine, but don't hijack my favorite characters to work out your own peccadillos. that said, Hickman's run on Avengers was even more excruciating, but I'm a Busiek (it rhymes with "music") boy myself, he could strike the delicate balance between characterization and action! anywheeze, thanks for the thoughtful video, I always learn stuff!

[@ScottCreley]

A lot of people love having actual characters with actual character development. Hickman's was also amazing. Maybe Spawn or something else is more your speed if all you want is mindless action.

[@mobyt.3900]

@@ScottCreley no need to be nasty, I never said I prefer mindless action, I want a BALANCE of action and character devleopment, not one at the sacrifice of the other.

[@Ultinuc]

It's definitely a matter of taste. He dedicated an entire issue of USM to Peter telling MJ his identity and I honestly really loved that. It's the kind of character conversation I WANT to see drawn out and spend time on

[@JD-iu6rv]

I always love how Jameson shakes Spider-Man’s hand and then he immediately screws over the avengers in the bugle

[@andsonrebello2018]

Considering how time moves in Marvel; Avengers Disassembled, House of M, Civil War, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion, Seige, Fear Itself, AvX all probably happened in a year. How are the Avengers NOT insane?

[@carlostamilla6407]

They stated that 1 year of the marvel universe is like 5 years of our reality so yeah, a couple of years

[@ccelite3782]

Meaning that.. all the Incursions happened in probably about 2 months. For fucks sake

[@LeoMes01]

@@carlostamilla6407 who said that ?

[@jj-nj6ii]

@@LeoMes01 Source: it was revealed to me in a dream

[@DazzlingMrScratch]

It really is a shame this run was so short, it was such a good read

[@mikealdermann4516]

His New Avengers was great, but you've gotta remember his short run on Dark Avengers. Holy crap those 12 issues are bonkers, wildly entertaining, and rival anything he's ever done.

[@mr.fleetwood2901]

I just read those issues and the annual last week...very well done

[@femmedracula6857]

Too bad he kicked off the actually terrible trend of using Scarlet Witch to make bad things happen under the excuse that she was "insane."

[@VadeRising]

Yeah using her to both Dissassemble the Avengers and destroy the mutant kind clearly wasn't the greatest idea.

[@femmedracula6857]

@@VadeRising It's one of my least favorite things out of his otherwise excellent body of work. I think that makes it annoy me more.

[@knightofkorbin888]

She is a Scarlet Witch.

[@mr.fleetwood2901]

Actually...that started in the 80s when George Perez worked on the book and was touched on again in the 90s by John Byrne during his West Coast Avengers run...both were good storylines...

[@femmedracula6857]

@@mr.fleetwood2901 She drove major events by altering reality? Like breaking up the Avengers, remaking the world into a mutant paradise, and ultimately "no more mutants?" Those stories were the foundation that Bendis built upon but Bendis was the guy who turned her into a "crazy" event dispenser. Both the runs you mention were good and I was reading both titles at the time, I just don't agree that they compare to this.

[@shengcer]

Now I see that Bendis run laid a very strong foundation for Hickman’s run which is probably the greatest in the modern history of Avengers.

[@smashmaster521]

Indeed.

[@Tyler_W]

I heard something that I think is very true. Hickman took the appetizer ideas that Bendis introduced amd just sort of played around with and evolved them into full course meals in his own run.

[@JustinBourguignon]

This is a good video! I think you might have even undersold the impact of the New Avengers on the depiction of the team forever after. It was Bendis who brought Spider-Man to the team after years of him choosing to be a lone wolf, gave Hawkeye much more spotlight and intrigue than he had in years, etc. But I think the biggest contribution was the entire vibe of the team. With other super teams, they were usually either Serious Colleagues Handling Global Affairs (Justice League of America, the previous Avengers) or an oddball family who lives together (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Teen Titans arguably). Bendis made his Avengers HQ a place where the superheroes would get help with a crisis, but also a clubhouse where they would hang out, order Chinese takeout, watch movies. They were like coworkers who were actually friends, and that's exactly how the MCU portrays them. Many parts of AoU, Civil War, FATWS, and Endgame could have been lifted right out of the pages of New Avengers. I think the modern Justice League and Titans comics take a lot of inspiration from the tone set by Bendis and later the MCU.

[@mayotango1317]

Kurt Busiek did that so much better.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Personally I'm not a big fan of Bendis run in the avengers. I don't think was bad and understand that was a important change for the avengers, however I feel the group lost alot of their epic tone their stories had before (specially in the Kurt Busiek run). As Marvel's justice league, the avengers always had the heroes dealing with big threats, going in epic adventures, be stopping a kree or skrull invasion or battling against Loki or Kang. When Bendis took over, their stories didn't have the same feeling and they became more street level heroes, rather then be the Earth Mightest heroes. Plus the fact that after the Sentry's arc, the book became a bunch of tie-ins to events such as civil war or secret invasion.

[@kpaso6419]

THis. Bendis tried to push the Avengers as the "epic team" after Siege (a run that culminated with the completely forgotten Age of Ultron event), but Bendis isnt good at writing Avengers level threats and it showed.

[@AFan-yl4me]

@@kpaso6419 Honestly, yeah. Plus the pacing was SO bad here. I still like New Avengers, but really hated the pacing, which goes for a lot of Bendis books I've read as well. Except maybe Siege.

[@smashmaster521]

Bendis' Avengers run is alright, but Jonathan Hickman's Avengers run is the gold standard as far as modern Avengers runs go.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@smashmaster521 True, although I think Kurt Busiek's run is the best avengers run of all, having big epic stories, while also tributing and developing things from the past (ex: Tony Stark helping Carol deal with her alcoholism, Hank Pym's battle against Ultron, love triangle between Vision, Wanda and Wonder Man).

[@smashmaster521]

@@alexandrefrauches132 Oh, I won't deny that Kurt Busiek's Avengers run is the best CLASSIC Avengers run. However, Jonathan Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers run is the best MODERN Avengers run.

[@daviddyster4145]

I wish Bendis had more time to tell his story, with out interference.

[@Kal_g]

Compared to where Bendis is at now, in terms of his writing at DC, New Avengers was his peak. I mean, yeah, "Alias", and the one comic he did over at "Image" mixed together was his magnum opus, it's just that his work on "New Avengers" showed us how he was able to handle dynamics, characters being able to play off each other, team banter, and conversational dialogue. I think if Bendis goes back to focusing on these elements, especially the dynamics, and going back to developing street level heroes, I think he'll truly be back in his prime. Plus, I think he would do great with a run on Green Arrow.

[@TheNickcone]

His New Avengers is good, but I think Busiek has the best Avengers run. But Bendis New Avengers and the Ultimates universe are more influential on the whole. Also all the events and lineup changes take their toll, eventually slowing the momentum of his various Avengers runs down especially Secret Invasion.

[@francescoromani4539]

“Secret invasion” great trash saga!

[@bloodsport93]

This run is the reason I'm an Avengers fan. I love this run. I own every issue.

[@justinriley]

Excellent video as always, Owen. Probably my second favorite run of the Avengers comic behind Jonathan Hickman's run. Jason Aaron's run has been pretty fun, too.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Kurt Busiek run is also amazing

[@dantecrottogini529]

Hickman's run is so good! Aaron's been good. It has a lot of cool moments but i think the execution overall could be better

[@MFDoomguy21]

I hate Bendis but I do appreciate his work on this team.

[@srstriker6420]

Xavier Perez as do I

[@thedoctor8416]

Bendis? "I know, right?" Please. Sales went up because Marvel allowed Spider-Man and Wolverine to be permanent members. Any writer given that would have had huge sales. I'd argue that the Avengers movies were much more influenced by the Ultimates than Bendis' Avengers.

[@TheACcam]

This is my view. Saying that Bendis saved the Avengers is like saying Kevin J Anderson saved Star Wars.

[@battleupsaber462]

Really sad to see how far Bendis has fallen from his glory days at Marvel to his current work at DC. (Action comics and LOSH have both been pretty bad)

[@OwenLikesComics]

I haven't been a huge fan of his Superman run admittedly, but the Batman: Universe book he did is genuinely one of the best comics i've read in years.

[@reidcunningham5906]

He does Young Justice as well. It was pretty bad

[@tobigrantlbart]

@@OwenLikesComics I say that there should have been some editors saying some words to Bendis and King when they took over there flagship titles like: "I read both of your work you can be great writers, but the titles you chose to do aren´t the right titles for you" Superman: Up in the sky and Batman: Universe give a look how things could have been like if Bendis did work Batman, a crime detective series like the one´s he grew famous with, and King wrote Superman, a character that´s better suited for talking about depression in the way King does. Batman and trauma can work, also Batman and break-ups can work but it has to be wrote a little bit different than King does.

[@galactic85]

Yeah he started out alright but I think his popularity became his undoing. He was clearly comfortable on books with single characters that were more grounded such as alias, Daredevil and Ultimate Spider-man. Then overtime he gets popular and Marvel puts him on Avengers and after that they start putting him on TONS of books. At the same time Bendis is still trying to work on his creator owned stuff like powers. He got stretched thin and his writing suffered and he became more reliant on his trademark writing tropes to save time. Perfect example is how often he dedicates two pages of a comic to close ups characters being asked a question. I think in 2014 he was writing a total of SIX comics between his creator owned work and his stuff for Marvel, but I could be misremembering. I don't know if he took on that many titles because he just got excited at all the opportunities and couldn't say no, or if he just started buying into his own hype but either way he spread himself too thin and it came back to bite him.

[@battleupsaber462]

@@OwenLikesComics That one was pretty good, i will admit

[@williambonduris5364]

Great video! The New Avengers were one of my first comics and I feel like they get forgotten. So glad you did a video on them!

[@charlielongman8391]

I read the full run during lock down and it proper reignited my love of marvel. Fantastic run. Thanks for covering it

[@patrickperalta59]

Amazing how Spider-man is still part of the Avengers I remember in the early days of the book over several years...he was asked to be an Avenger but he turned it down do to the fact he was always a Solo Hero and one story line he tried to be part of a team and had problems adjusting to taking orders From Captain America and being part of a Team.

[@solidsnake99713]

The original lineup of New Avengers was classic. Its a shame that civil war and the after math of it forever changed new Avengers for me

[@cheeseburger12]

Honestly, I thought Busiek and Perez's Avengers was the thing that saved the superhero team. Bendis's run was very meh to me. Although the Dr. Doom time/travel arc was kind of cool.

[@hush3130]

this team was my avengers team growing up i hold that era is so dear thank you for bringing it up

[@deadpl-zw8it]

New Avengers is probably my favorite version of the Avengers. I loved the relationship of Luke Cage and Spider-man. Wish they did more with that.

[@Three_Tiny_Robots]

I don't think you've given Kurt busiek and George Perez enough credit. It was their work as a team that pulled The Avengers out of the Heroes Reborn muck- I think if it'd hadn't been for their work (which Bendis largely ignored or discarded) there wouldn't have been an Avengers book left at all.

[@OwenLikesComics]

That's fair, I definitely skimmed over Busiek's run when it's a topic that deserves more attention. I needed to acknowledge it in the context of where the Avengers were at when Bendis took over, but discussing it in detail would've felt tangential. Maybe I'll make a follow up video dedicated to the Busiek/Perez run?

[@ScottCreley]

Nah. Busiek does his best work elsewhere, and Perez was mediocre 90/00s stuff.

[@Three_Tiny_Robots]

@@ScottCreley George perez has been an icon in comicbooks since the '70s, his work is definitely not "mediocre '90s" by any means. He filled pages with detailed characters, and his use of page space and panels was amazing. Busiek's work on Avengers was probably the best that had been done on the title since John Byrne was writing Avengers/ West Coast Avengers- and arguably better than than that. I don't know who else could have revived the Avengers as a team and as a title, not just after Heroes Reborn, but after the incredibly poor handling the title had received right through the '90s.

[@francescoromani4539]

HR pulled The Avengers out of The Crossing muck. XD

[@l0kumidit641]

One of Bendis' greatest work, it's up there next to Ultimate Spider-Man, can't say the same for his recent work though...

[@KierTheScrivener]

I love your videos. I learn so much

[@user-mj6zg8hh9h]

Bendis shaped the last two decades of Marvel comics

[@ionutoctavianpavel8538]

This is my fav line-up !

[@TevyaSmolka]

great video on the history of the new avengers man

[@isuriadireja91]

i still wanna see an Avengers run with this roster: Cap Iron Man Spidey Hulk Thor or Valkyrie Wolverine Black Panther Storm or Phoenix Doctor Strange or Brother Voodoo or Scarlet Witch & The Silver Surfer

[@zenquantum1246]

Missed this era. Thanks for the introduction

[@jaxeight]

Not really a fan of Bendis but I liked some parts of the New Avengers. Still Avengers Disassembled was the beginning of the end for the Classic Marvel stories.

[@caesar0frome950]

He’s probably gonna be given justice league in the near future

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

NOOOOOO!!!

[@rodney2x48]

Dear God, no. Bendis doesn’t write like he used to. Give him a street level hero and he’ll still make some good shit, but I’d keep him away from team books.

[@R_eagan]

Bendis’ Superman/Action Comics run is pretty bad and it doesn’t help that John Romita Jr is the main artist.

[@Jaddaprog]

@@R_eagan his young justice was pretty cool tho. I enjoyed it at least.

[@ShinbrigTV]

I would say make it a DC Black Label comic, Bendis is great when he works on stories outside of continuity.

[@Unemportant]

Bendis has really fallen from grace

[@jungleballrox]

Awesome video (: thanks for the content!

[@OwenLikesComics]

Glad you liked it!

[@nonaes]

it was Bendis's new avengers run that got me into comics. loved the avengers ever since

[@christiancloud7945]

Honestly New Avengers Breakout was the first comic book I ever bought and that run of avengers and titles that set that universe is my Marvel until about 2013/2014

[@AstonishingRed]

When Spider-Man finally joined the Avengers, that was a BIG deal. Like a seriously big deal. One day you should make a video about that topic. I don’t think any comics channel tackled that yet. It doesn’t seem like a big deal now because Avengers teams come and go like the wind.

[@studydoc]

So happy he gave the Ultimates their due. No MCU today without that failed but initially awesome experiment from way back then.

[@nubworthycigars6682]

Consistently good information. Great series.

[@OwenLikesComics]

Thank you!

[@biglord02]

Great video

[@griemreaper]

Bendis's run on avengers is what made me start to read other marvel comics besides spiderman. I dont always like hes stuff but he has made some pivotal works in my personal comic reading history

[@silvasaurusrex]

I had been reading Marvel for over a decade at that point, and it was only when Bendis got involved that the Avengers felt like a must read.

[@stormhawk31]

I HATED Bendis on Superman, but New Avengers was AWESOME. It was the only time I've ever collected and loved the Avengers.

[@theomnibusprime4046]

Bendis run is my starting point on reading Avengers, its new reader friendly. Own volume 1-5 of the complete collection. Would love to read Busiek's run also but the Omnibus are out of print. Great video BTW.

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

Thanks. Just watched your "House of M" video as well. These neat 15-minute summaries of the massive crossover events are very helpful for people like me trying to get our head around the convoluted Marvel continuity.

[@OwenLikesComics]

Glad you found the videos informative and useful! There's plenty more so I hope you stick around.

[@danielramirez3212]

This episode was...VERY COOL

[@benjaminlong7514]

I am happy people look back fondly at this because alot of people hated it at the time

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I can never get past the Bendis speak. The fact that nearly everyone in his stories has the same personality. I also never understood why Luke cage was there. They have so many superheroes with super strength and impenetrable skin. They even had Sentry.

[@WinningProduction420]

He put Luke Cage in there cause he had a soft side for the 70s street level heroes. He also wanted to use characters that had been underutilized by Marvel.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@WinningProduction420 But I'm just saying logically speaking, there are so many other characters.

[@WinningProduction420]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp it wasn't a logical decision. He did it for his sentimental reasons. Personally I would have chose Colossus or an X-men character instead

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@WinningProduction420 Yeah, i think Storm would've been a great addition

[@WinningProduction420]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp as a replacement for Thor? I could see that working well if the team had a different lineup

[@tyoungjjr]

Good infoa!

[@MrMangaman1]

Using that screenshot from the Mark Millar run of FF made me think that'd be a great series for a video. Avoids a lot of the classic Millar problems, and helped set up some of the major aspects of Hickman's run.

[@condimentking7039]

Cool vid!

[@catsithx]

I did love this. I wish bendis was given more ti.e to have fun with his avengers. Yet it was nice to see many who were never avengers be avengers. I would like to see someone talk about grant Morris run on the JLA.

[@bluessax5089]

Bendis was the Man!! He’s the main writer whose work I read. I read both of his runs of new avengers 2004 and 2010!

[@TheGalacticGrizzly]

No wonder I didn't get the hype about Bendis' New Avengers. I read the post-Civil War run 😅

[@OwenLikesComics]

Hahaha oops!

[@Rucker1980]

I was randomly thinking about how crazy to think how popular the avengers have gotten over the years and this appeared on my suggestions. wow

[@mulder13x59]

The hardest part I've found about starting Bendis Marvek stuff he wrote so much of Marvel and they all seem to connect and all the events and mini events and other people's work that would go good reading with bendis stuff. But it's also a huge strength at the same time. Like it's one big book. Only sometimes I wish he'd do more smaller stories you can read as a one off and not worry about other stuff. Specially more of his indie stuff would be book.

[@JudgementalGoat]

This was great! Have you ever done a video about Morrison's JLA?

[@OwenLikesComics]

Not yet! I planned on mentioning it here because it's a very similar circumstance, maybe I'll cover it later this year.

[@KamiAnimeS1]

I love Spiderman on the avengers especially in marvels alliance the first one

[@srstriker6420]

KamiAnime S yeah because I’m pretty sick of him being the teenager

[@KamiAnimeS1]

SR Striker yeah the jokes he made was so funny because he was an adult that game

[@srstriker6420]

KamiAnime S I know and the MCU should have kept Andrew Garfield

[@breadjuice4311]

I feel like sentry being implanted with mental commands to erase the world's memories of him makes makes the self sacrifice from the original series mean less, he was a compelling character because he made the choice to save the world by making sure he didn't exist to them on his own and for the greater good.

[@ginoames]

The New Avengers has one of the best written Captain Americas. Loved this run. I also loved how it made Luke Cage one of the coolest characters in Marvel.

[@awaisahmed9418]

I Wana see Wonder Man or The sentry appear in the MCU.

[@TevyaSmolka]

the new avengers was a good series by bendis however i don't like that bendis used avengers disassembled which destroyed the team in order to make a new team of avengers which isn't necessary a bad idea in theory however the execution was kinda a mix result in my opinion, however i will say this though this avengers team by bendis was really good and tons of fun.

[@srstriker6420]

Tevya Smolka yeah because he’s obsessed with Peter Parker being a teenager

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@srstriker6420 true yes but technically speaking when bendis wrote new avengers peter parker was actually adult during that time and was still married to his wife mary jane which in my opinion is best marvel couple that shouldn't have been destroyed by Joe quesada and his bullshit.

[@srstriker6420]

Tevya Smolka I know

[@TevyaSmolka]

SR Striker gotcha

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@TevyaSmolka I need you to be honest with me when did Bendis stop being the great writer at Marvel and what are some of his Bad Comics

[@alunjones6823]

I really like the New Avengers. They're my favourite Avengers Sub Group. My favourite members on the team are Spider-Man and Wolverine.

[@levidu99]

Great as always, hopefully we see a Roger Stern Spider-Man video someday

[@srstriker6420]

Leo Vidal like the Hobgoblin saga?

[@levidu99]

@@srstriker6420 i would like a video of the whole thing, is not that long and it's arguably the best Spider-Man run ever

[@srstriker6420]

Leo Vidal i know along with the Avengers under siege

[@neomoonbunz]

I would love to see a similar video on how Grant Morrison's run on the X-Men influenced the X-Men in the comics/movies, etc. :)

[@gianlucasorrentino7426]

the new avengers - dark avengers arc from 2004 to 2010 is probably my favorite avengers run ever

[@trowa9960]

I never started reading avengers until Civil war. I’ve worked my way back since then and now only missing about 50 issues from the entire series. New avengers was the first I read of course. I enjoyed it then, and still do to an extent, but I can see how Bendis really messed up a good thing. Geoff Johns has a short but great run. There were other great runs also. With Bendis it’s like he either ignores or hates continuity. When I got reading all that came before New Avengers I realized just how much Bendis just didn’t think his stories through. He’s not the first writer to do that (Hobgoblin saga and clone Saga in Spider-Man comics) but he really just does whatever he wants, stretches out short stories into so many issues... I just struggle to read anything Bendis now. His Daredevil run is still good but he didn’t wrap it up, another writer had to clean up his mess. Ultimate Spider-Man is great but he had no continuity to refer to. This comment is getting long. I’ll stop now. Bendis’s Guardians of the Galaxy was so bad... just had to say it.

[@srstriker6420]

Trowa he really should do the Hobgoblin saga

[@mr.fleetwood2901]

I'm glad you mentioned Johns' short run...it was very good and all but forgotten at this point...he actually made the Falcon interesting and introduced a new Captain Britain...he made Agent Gyrich interesting as well as creating a respectful but distrustful rivalry between Tony and T'Challa...good stuff...

[@Iorekbyrnison100]

Cool video! I also really liked this era of Marvel. Avengers Disassembled led to some great storylines like, "House of M," "Decimation," "Secret Invasion," etc. that I really liked. I've always enjoyed Bendis, and some of his characters (Jessica Jones and Riri Williams especially) are some of my favorites so I don't understand why it's cool to hate on him. If it wasn't for his work on New Avengers and Ultimate Spider Man, the current MCU would be very different. And, like you pointed out, I like that he would highlight lesser-known characters like Spider Woman (even if she was really Veranke the whole time, supposedly) and The Sentry. As much as I love Captain America and Wolverine, it was great to see some other characters get some attention.

[@francescoromani4539]

Destroyed Classic Avengers, destroyed Wanda, “Secret invasion” trash, Tony badass, Peter idiot in “Civil war”… XD

[@rafaelcardona6801]

LOL Bendis saves the Averages? I needed a good laugh 😂 thanks man. Overall like the video good job 😁

[@OwenLikesComics]

Haha we'll agree to disagree! I'm glad you liked it though.

[@alexplorer]

How about a video on Grant Morrison's X-men? Or Grant Morrison's anything, really. Because it would be awesome. (Yes, I saw the video on Grant Morrison's Superman. But more, please!)

[@OwenLikesComics]

Morrison's X-Men is definitely on my list, I included it at the end of the video as a feeler to see if people were interested in me talking about it.

[@alexplorer]

@@OwenLikesComics Rhetorical question: Is there anyone who likes comics who doesn't find Grant Morrison interesting?

[@smashmaster521]

@@alexplorer Eh, he's alright.

[@pantherteen1997]

Seeing how Bendis brought the New Avengers together in the comic is giving me the Justice League TV series origin vibes.

[@bamboo8322]

First comment I’m in the first 10 seconds of the vid and already know it’s gonna be goated 💞

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

Many people criticize Bendis' run of Sentry, but actually it was a pretty good one. He did the character justice, unlike what we saw recently in KIB.

[@mayotango1317]

Meh, Kurt Busiek did a better character work.

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

@@mayotango1317 In what way? Which issue?

[@mayotango1317]

@@THETRIVIALTHINGSRead all vol. 3 of Avengers.

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

@@mayotango1317 I haven't read all, and the ones where Sentry makes an appearance, I'm sorry, agree to disagree. He never got as much development as he deserves.

[@mayotango1317]

@@THETRIVIALTHINGS I talk about Avengers vol. 3 1998. No the New Avengers who is so bad.

[@Slyarno2795]

This has to be one of the best works of Brian Michael Bendis.

[@B8V88]

Can you make a 2099 video, I love your videos.

[@thomaswelbourn55]

Bendis was an absolute powerhouse at Marvel, Ultimate Spider-Man, Alias, Daredevil, and the Avengers, each a hit at the time and I feel bad that he left Marvel after kind of been burnt out... You can really see a difference in his works and it's sad, but I feel his earlier stuff had a darker edge which I personally love, and he always seemed to work with great artists, Marvel's comics for me personally were amazing from the 2000-10's with some hits afterwards but not as many.

[@Bolsonaro_em_Haia]

Bendis has certainly had commercial success, but I fail to see how his work is creatively any better than, say, Kurt Busiek's. Quite on the contrary, it has many very serious flaws, most of which are directly connected to a gravely overgrown concern for marketability of the characters.

[@Bolsonaro_em_Haia]

@Naquin Green The pacing is way too slow and relies on way too many "mysteries', not entirely unlike 1990s writing. Characterization is shallow and unsubtle. The storytelling relies way too much on sexualized posing. And the very conception of the "Avengers" strays so far away from what I would expect that I stopped following the title for good.

[@Bolsonaro_em_Haia]

@Naquin Green I guess I just did not notice those positives, such as they may exist. Nor am I much of a fan of objetification. Or, for that matter, of making freaking Wolverine a supposed "Avenger". That threw me entirely out of the history for good.

[@Zoogi.e]

I read the run of the original new avengers team fairly recently. A bit bummed the team only lasts 21 issues. I read Civil War, and am a bit excited where the two versions of the team go from here.

[@belinskiparadox7687]

Brian managed to make Luke Cage iconic, in street clothes no less.

[@ginbejury]

I like your videos. IMO the Ultimates was the turning point.

[@VerveQuest-zc4ri]

Sentry was a good idea, but no writer before Bendis was allowed to put Wolverine and Spiderman on the team. Before this the writers had to work with much less known characters if they wanted to add members. Easier to write with Spidey and Wolverine on a team then Deathcry or Doctor Druid

[@mayotango1317]

And make them out of characters.

[@Congslop]

The New Avengers was SO fun

[@douglasmcintosh464]

in my opinion the ideal avengers team would be Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Wolverine, Spider-man, Hulk, Black Panther, Ant Man, Wasp, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Sentry, Captian Marvel

[@GenghisDon1970]

Sentry ought have stayed obscure, too