New Cheap Speaker Line BEATS Competition Like a Drum!

[@samdavparsley8266]

I’ve enjoyed many of your reviews and analysis. One thing I truly dig is the “real world” points you make- like the dynamics of a song vs just lab tests etc. but as well in many of your videos the comparison and contrast of various hi fi gear under real world use. I appreciate your videos. Keep sharing the knowledge 👍

[@cunawarit]

I really enjoyed parts of this video-this is exactly what I appreciate about this channel. Showcasing a new release of an affordable Hi-Fi product, covering the basic frequency response specs, along with thoughtful commentary on its design and general sound quality-this is the good stuff! More of this, please, and less of the pointless outboard reclocker talk, especially since a DAC using USB already handles that. The snake oil side of KZbin Hi-Fi can be frustrating, and I’d love to see this channel stay focused on the practical, accessible content that makes it great.

[@jeffreylehman1159]

But if you can hear a difference, is it “snake oil”?

[@cunawarit]

@jeffreylehman1159 Define "hear"-if you can actually hear it, you can likely confirm it’s real by meassuring it. If not, it might just be imagined. That said, I suspect the issue here is methodological. It sounds like the streamer was connected to the DAC via Toslink instead of USB. This would explain why there was an audible improvement, assuming the streamer was suffering from clocking issues.

[@RonStephens-h7h]

Difference’s you can hear cannot always be measured. That is why the best hifi at any price point is designed by people with a real passion for music, not in a laboratory.

[@cunawarit]

@@RonStephens-h7h The issue is methodological anyway, passion or not he didn't use the right connector.

[@jeffreylehman1159]

@@cunawarit I’m not really up on DAC reclocking, but you can definitely hear differences that may not relate to measurements. Instrument separation, depth of soundstage, true clarity, these don’t necessarily align with specific measurements.

[@gwine9087]

Midrange is where the music is.

[@angelOcrisu]

You can say that again 👍🏻

[@Artcore103]

Nah. Lows mids highs all equally important.

[@luismanuelcardoso9889]

Totally agreed. All speakers have reasonably good highs and lows but not all have good, detailed and controlled mids.

[@aight3565]

rookie statement

[@angelOcrisu]

@@Artcore103 that's a statement of an american I assume. In the midrange are where instruments and voices sing.

[@richardtomasek]

There are certain pop and jazz recordings I use to audition speakers, but if they can do large, well recorded orchestral works, those are the ones I prefer. I have Elac UB5s and they do everything well.

[@selassie123GA]

Nice Comparison, would love to hear your thoughts on the Floorstanders. I am planing to get the F5.3 vs the F6.3 on Black Friday for my medium sized Living Room. My guess is, that the F5.3 sound awesome without having too much resonance or bloated Bass like the bigger Brothers might have. Observed the same Effect in the past with Dynaudio Emit 10 vs 20 and KEF Q150 vs 350, always prefered the smaller Version, independent from Room Size. Faster Start/Stop Behaviour of the Drivers and less boxy. Greetings form Germany!

[@dairatars]

​@@selassie123GA following for possible response, have the same question 👍 also debating whether to get DB6.3 or DF5.3

[@tm4000m]

Randy, this video might be the first time you have panned past your lens kit. I really like the look and feel of your videos (and the content). Would love a walk through of the studio, equipment used, but especially why you use specific mics, lenses in different shots ect. Thanks buddy!

[@OldGuyHifi]

Oh boy did it!

[@DougMen1]

I generally like the 5.25" woofer version of a speaker more than the 6.5" for two reasons- first, the 6.5" woofers tend to be too boomy in my small room, because i have to have the speakers pretty close to the wall behind them. Otherwise, they're in the middle of the room, because that's how small my room is. Second, I find that the 5.25" woofers tend to have richer mids and tend to often blend better with the tweeter than the 6.5" ones do, but you give up a little bass. I'm not a big bass freak, so that's not important to me that much. I place more emphasis on rich lush midrange and clear crisp (but not shrill) highs, with good balance across all frequencies, and punchy dynamics across all frequencies as well. Above all, I like speakers that don't draw attention to themselves and disappear and let the music speak for itself. That goes for amps and source components too. I don't like it when they are screaming at me -"Listen to me, I'm SO Hi-Fi!" I prefer components and speakers that say to me - "I'm not even here, listen to the music".

[@waffle911]

Love to see you get your hands on the Swan Oasis 140's.

[@tpr299]

If you were playing them at the same volume it would make sense that the smaller speaker would sound better. I’ve noticed that my speakers open up, and become more revealing at higher volumes. I often keep raising the volume to hear the different instruments in better clarity. So, I think what you observed makes sense.

[@EtaiAflalo-yc2qg]

Your videos have really helped me narrow down my speaker search. Really need to know if these, or others you review, can handle my 400+ sqft living room

[@sfomann]

I am all over the place trying to decide a speaker pair for my basement office. I am trying to decide between these Elacs and the Wharfedale Super Dentons and Super Lintons. I know these are all at very different price points, and yes, I can stretch to Super Lintons but I am not sure if it is worth it. btw, there is no local dealer that has these speakers to demo, so I have to rely on all you guys!

[@Artcore103]

Not even comparable at all! If you want bass and SPL and dynamic capability get one of the lintons. If you don't care about those things and are gonna keep the volume lower then maybe you can get away with the Elacs, but at least get the 6.5" version. The lintons and super lintons are some REAL speakers bro. The Elacs are "great small speakers for the price"... The lintons are just objectively good and serious speakers period. Their relative sizes do not afford direct comparisons at all, there is no comparison.

[@Panslapper]

@@Artcore103 I agree, the closer more natural competition are the Wharefdale 12.2 or the Q Accoustics 3030i at least for the bigger 6.5 inch speaker. 12.1 and 3020i for the smaller version.

[@sfomann]

@@Artcore103 I agree that they are not comparable. That is why I said I am all over the place going in different directions. I actually started looking at the sub $500 speakers and was about to purchase these elacs and then I saw the super lintons. My heart says get lintons but my mind tells me to get the elacs and be happy with it. Plus there is a free stand deal w the lintons right now 🤔

[@RobertRopp-u4n]

Thanks!

[@cheapaudioman]

Thank you so much!

[@chacabaca]

Got the alert! Time to shut down the rig immediately.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

I haven't been interested in a pair of book shelf speakers since the Pioneer Andrew Jones line As I understand it, he designed these Elac speakers as well.

[@JR-ho5qm]

Not the new version. Only the 2 older generations

[@ricome169]

ha ha I am still listening to them.

[@Audiodreamer192-24]

I still have the whole pioneer sp series 52's,22's, center and Atmos modules. Don't use them anymore but kept them because they were, are excellent speakers worth well beyond the price.

[@lespaul667]

The best sounding version of “Sunday Bloody Sunday” will be on the MFSL Ultradisc CD of “War”. Bar bone. Beats all CD pressings and all LP pressings hands down. You even get a bonus extended version of ‘Seconds’.

[@Brian_Romska]

Nice as always Randy thanks! I’d like to compare these and a couple others in this price range against the css torri, just gotta build em and buy a couple other pairs like the elacs and see what’s up, maybe I’ll have time (and motivation) this winter? I assume the css speakers would be better but I wonder how close?

[@RonStephens-h7h]

Totally agree with you Randy about the sound quality of Sunday Bloody Sunday and indeed the War album. I have an original vinyl copy from when the album was first released and always found it disappointingly flat sounding. I guess we can check out Tidal for any recent remasters. Love your channel by the way, particularly your presentation style. You really make me laugh sometimes.

[@zounds13]

Everything that comes from China is about to get a lot more expensive.

[@tpr299]

Didn’t notice that in his first four years. A lot of the tariffs won’t be imposed because just the threat of tariffs was enough to persuade China. I bought Elac, and Martin Logan speakers in those years at very reasonable prices. In contrast a lot of products have gotten much more expensive in the last four years including food, and gasoline (which contributes to higher prices across the board).

[@danemoreno88]

Looks like decent budget speaker system . Love metal domes i like it I just wish companies would stop making speakers 6ohms

[@JR-ho5qm]

I would imagine these probably dip down into the 4 ohm range. How come you don’t like 6 ohm? Do you prefer 4 or 8?

[@danemoreno88]

@ yes I just prefer the traditional 8 ohms even 4ohms used to be car audio type stuff

[@ConorHanley]

Tis probably a compromise between bass extension and avoiding a full 4 ohm load that some amps don't deal well with though in this day an age...

[@jeffreylehman1159]

A lower impedance leads to higher sensitivity. If you have a “real” amplifier, 6 or 4 ohm nominal should be fine.

[@danemoreno88]

@ yea mine can play 4-6-8 doesn’t matter with ease

[@claudiorusso6219]

Ti seguo dall'Italia sei bravo e molto obiettivo!

[@angelOcrisu]

I have the Elac UBR62 and they are fantastic detailed neutral beautiful 3way bookshelf speakers. Elac produces better value speakers than many other brands

[@stephenhall3515]

The bigger one seeming to have a weaker top end is similar to with other brands having such close siblings. One cause is lack of recovery time on larger diameter speakers therefore, certainly for classical orchestral music, Randy's caveat re a subwoofer applies. A quite modest sub gives less to the large diameter speaker to have to handle and it can improve spatiality and overall imaging. If people already have a sub then the smaller unit will have airier and more natural sound. If living space in an apartment is important and a sub would be cumbersome the go for the bigger ones ones but, in both cases, use EQ, preferably a physical one and not a software type as the latter invariably flavor the sound excessively.

[@arcadepiano]

i used to collect speakers from televisions until i reached 200. then i gave to a homeless the 170 worst sounding drivers. from the remaining 30 good ones, there is a couple of small drivers that just delivers REALITY of natural sound. then i spent lot of money buying speakers that are supposed to be good, like B&W, added some ribbon tweeters, some tang band, panasonic eastech subwoofers a dozen of drivers that sounds ok....BUT adding those TV speakers found in the trash out of two hundred! adds the clarity that gives the impression that the recording is real, especially human voice, seems to be in my room.

[@bikdav]

These look like good candidates. My present speakers sound good. But, their size over-dominate the room. It seems as though the recording quality itself can make or break a speaker regardless of size or amplification.

[@nathanclaspell6003]

You're spot on about recording quality. Some songs always sound a little crappy, no matter the setup.

[@jeffreylehman1159]

Sometimes the better the system, the worst some recordings sound. A lot of popular recordings are mastered to listen to on car audio or blue tooth speakers.

[@bikdav]

@ No doubt about that.

[@nukadog1969]

I bought a Wiim Ultra this week because of your review. I've got little R40-PMs right now, but I'm considering upgrading to a Fosi mono pair and then I'd need non-powered speakers. It seems from your reviews that you'd say it will make a significant differece, true? It's for a relatively small living room.

[@juancrf69]

@@nukadog1969 I have exactly that set up. The Wiim ultra wirh two Fosi mono and the Elacs and you will be surprised how much power and clarity it puts out.

[@Artcore103]

Obviously yes. You have fake toy speakers right now. There's a lot of room to grow, like by getting real speakers, not tiny pretend speakers.

[@lanegeisewite1436]

Which one of these would be better suited for a home theater setup? Movies, shows

[@tm4000m]

Sounds like a CAM t-Shirt "And if you would like to know what the measurements are, I have no idea...."

[@kiraboandrewful]

Only video on the web right now he now comparing the two. Thanks

[@gregcarson3444]

Wow 86 db would be loud, guess I am just an old guy or a cheap date, I listen to my speakers, peaking at 70 db

[@jeffreylehman1159]

Yeah, but I bet you don’t listen at 1 meter.

[@gregcarson3444]

@@jeffreylehman1159true, 2.1 meters, lol, small room it is only 9 foot x 10 foot

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

I would appreciate a similar review on a more modest system. Maybe a $350 receiver. That's what most people will pair these with.

[@scottdahnke2409]

I noticed the 5.25 version was on the outside where the 6.5 version was on the inside. Wonnder if there would be any difference switching them. Not expecting day/night difference but some overall.

[@High_Dollar_Alibi]

You can get them in any color you want; as long as you only want black.

[@joaopimentelstudio6749]

Thanks a lot! Will both speakers work well with the Fosiaudio TB10D + Wiim Pro Plus? And what would be your choise for a desk setup? Thanks a lot

[@fingchowder]

demoing the best equipment in the world to MTV unplugged alannis morrisette...i'm tripping balls knocking around my ankles rn.

[@Micatone]

Which one would you pick for a really large living room/kitchen combo?

[@s.daniel9224]

I’m gonna have to get the 6.5 version. Lot of good reviews and I’ve tried my monitor audio silver 100’s on a few different amps and the conclusion for me is-not for me. Even with eq, I can’t get the MA’s to calm down. So fatiguing… oh well, that’s why it’s a hobby. I’ll try the Elac’s….great video Randy! Thx!

[@evr67bb]

I would love to see a comparison between these two with the Q-Acoustics 3030i & 3020i.

[@botch3936]

I would love to know if there's been any adjustment to the crossover circuitry between these two.

[@sandwaves5642]

Maybe it's about time to use some NEW - different tracks ?!

[@bradleydurbin6784]

Here we go again more Elacs

[@Sasq90]

Have you ever heard the ELAC CARINA BS243.4? How are them?

[@manasparekh1230]

Can you do a comparison between the original debut B6 and the current version of the same please. The original is still good as gold in my view. If I had to upgrade, I'm curious to see how these compare. Thank you for your content, it is extremely enjoyable and knowledgeable.

[@tweakradje]

After years now upgrading from db51 to db63. Because of lower volume listening sessions. But keeping the original 5 too. Wish elac made crossover a 2000 hz for the db63 6.5" woofer. 2200 hz is little too high.

[@Herculesprods]

I have Yamaha hs80m calibrated to Harman curve, bought based on Your review fosi audio za3. Now I don't know what speakers would have the best sound in the price of Under $400 (that's the cost of pair 80's yamahas). I love both Funny and hi-fi of the audiophile world and resolution and detail of studio world. Could You recommend me, what speakers would be the best fit for me in this situation?

[@nikhampshire]

Ok I know it’s a dif price point but my finger is on the trigger for the Sony sscs5 for $95. Are these worth spending the extra money for?

[@D1N02]

Smaller speakers are easier to control because it is inherently less prone to vibration. The bigger one needs thicker panelling and the stronger motor and frame for the midbass. That will make it a much More expensive speaker so they don't do that.

[@johntucker5994]

On the other hand, floorstanders are often easier to drive, usually can play louder, have deeper bass and don't require you to purchase speaker stands. You may also be able to forego purchase of a subwoofer. I'm just saying that there are competing considerations.

[@D1N02]

@@johntucker5994 I was speaking with the context of this video

[@johntucker5994]

@@D1N02 I do get what you are saying. I love a good bookshelf myself, and yes floorstanders will typically be more expensive at least in initial purchase price. But for someone looking for a reasonably priced system, they should still consider floorstanders for the reasons I stated. Plus, for anyone with toddlers or small children, they need to consider the relative safety of each choice as well. Depending on your resources, you could spend more on floorstanders initially, and that choice could actually serve your better and be more cost-effective than something like the Elac Debut 3 B6.2.

[@fwiler]

You have got to be kidding. Please tell us about this mysterious vibration that all of sudden appears. Both of these speakers are larger than previous generation, so do they automatically vibrate more? And at what frequency and db do they start to vibrate and interfere with sound output? You obviously haven't made speakers before because no, you don't need thicker material going from 5 1/4 to 6 1/2" speaker. 3/4" has been used for decades and does just fine. I have these and no, they don't vibrate and I guarantee you , you couldn't measure any difference even if I braced it more. So please stop with the nonsense.

[@D1N02]

@fwiler I know who you voted for

[@jordancentola6701]

Can also reclock the wiim pro with ifi purifier it looks like using coaxial instead of usb!

[@ihshinron]

What would be the better option for an all around Home Theatre setup that can be used for music and movies (in that order) in a 2.1 system

[@Ty-qj6ws]

If you can get some open box heco 700 towers and an rsl sub, you're good

[@ihshinron]

Thank you @Ty-qj6ws. I meant which of these 2 speakers would be the better option for that use

[@Ty-qj6ws]

@@ihshinron oh haha apologies

[@robertsvallin3500]

Would love to hear your thoughts on Debut 3 vs Debut Reference.

[@dairatars]

Great review 👍 How would DB63 comapre to DF53? Debating on which ones to get.

[@NatMHawkins]

If I were to use these for home theater mains which would be better? Gut says the big ones but since I have a sub would the little one be better?

[@Nel33147]

I would like the 8 inch version , you know a la’ JBL . 😊

[@Bulletisred]

Try playing Yanni Within Attraction Live at the Acropolis and Al Di Meola Cachaca 😎👍🎵

[@ronmecca100]

I feel the same way about the KEF Q150's being better than the Q350's.

[@gamegamegameful]

Which one is better for movies?

[@NotoriousRKB]

how do these compare to the unifi Gen 1?

[@cheapaudioman]

Actually really similar sound. Gen 1 sounds like a bigger version of the 5.25” but it’s way harder to drive. Some of those are still floating around new and can be had for about the same price.

[@alexdenton6586]

What’s the point , bookshelf’s have crappy bass usually Except the Nines and that kind of speakers Better buy a JBL Partybox or a Beosound A9 if you have the means

[@trekkis]

There is no point to look for any bass anywhere besides proper subwoofer. For sub, bookshelf are far batter, so are far better in overall.

[@alexdenton6586]

@ in that case the Nines are better in every way Or Beosound A9 if tight on space

[@nilsovenstrm7597]

What do you think abaut Elac debut 3.0 6.3 vs Dali oberon 3? Mostly for tv and movies, and I have a Tannoy 2.10 sub😊

[@michaelmoxley7787]

Waiting on the floorstanding version review… please?

[@larryburns7225]

i would like to get a pair someday those ELAC speakers. hey breaking news Bose just bought Mcintosh i wonder what they have in store. sonus faber comes with that purchase.

[@tonymolina7744]

@cheapaudioman Thank you for this! You da man!

[@ovgu_audio]

In Japan, DB53 is worth about $500...

[@kiraboandrewful]

How does this compare to the Kef q150 and q350?

[@АлексейАлексеев-р4р]

Совершенству нет предела

[@luismanuelcardoso9889]

What about a comparison between the SSCS5 and the Elacs? Do you think the Elac could be an improvement to my system? Great video as always. Greetings from Mexico.

[@MetalGreggNY75]

Randy, how do the Elacs compare to the Micas?

[@seano218]

Did he mention anything about imaging or the soundstage width and depth? I lost focus.

[@shawnjass773]

What about the Debut 3 vs debut reference?

[@GigawattGarage]

Have you checked out the new Adam Audio D3V monitors?

[@zuyvox]

The "Auidotrack" function from KZbin is annoying. The AI translation in german sucks as hell. Otherwise, with your original voice, good video.

[@mr.george7687]

I agree w/ you on the 2nd Gen Elac B6. I fell for all the hype back then & purchased a pair when they went on sale. Not impressed...

[@Mikeymikemike]

Someone please review the towers?

[@chacabaca]

What’s a good sub to pair with these?

[@trekkis]

Svs sb-1000

[@TriAmpHiFi]

. Why choose Mono over Stereo for the bottom 1/3rd of the music? A Sub plays in Mono, Why choose stereo Elacs when it is known, before their bought, that more money & speakers are required to fill-in the missing music? Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass🔈🔉🔊

[@trekkis]

There is no stereo needed for sub and effect is far better. Elacs are enough.

[@TriAmpHiFi]

. To save money, just buy 1 Elac, a sub & a monoblock amplifier. That way the system will be fully Mono. Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass🔈🔉🔊

[@trekkis]

After last misleading video regarding wiim and smsl, and when the same error still is repeated and all viewers comments are ignored - currently any review here can not be taken seriously or trusted in any way.

[@greenbeginner9221]

Well, the choice is yours. Either you can unsubscribe and say so long or you can figure that not even the best in the MLB bats 1000. Is Randy the absolute truth? No. Nobody is. But should he be condemned? Nah.

[@trekkis]

Simply I can not trust in any word - and this is real problem for me, as I need to choose exactly between both elacs from this video. Normally, Input from this channel would be very valuable. Currently - it is not, in any way. Also after false statements regarding bt, and statements like air play present in wiims.

[@daandy4899]

I wish they would offer some other colors. Also never understood why they never did with the previous version. Great sounding speakers but ugly as hell. They should really offer kind of brown or even white like they do with the reference DBRs.

[@joshuawang5859]

waiting for more color options

[@ssleddens]

I like the 5 1/4 version sounds a little gay... but what the hell....

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Great review and perspective on these speakers. Being a short man, bigger is better, for me. 😂. Thanks for this content and sharing this with us all.

[@Kelty0656]

Why is it that everytime I start one of your video, I have this horrible robotic auto-translate voice ? I don't have this with any other english youtube channels that I'm watching.

[@randybehenna3763]

First

[@peterowings7233]

How can everything be the best? Can't wait to see what's the best on the next post.

[@TriAmpHiFi]

lol................................

[@Gadgetdad007]

@randybehenna3763 is such a big baby. I’m first 😂😂😂😂😂