NEW Hobbywing 10BL60 G2 Is Surprisingly Good! (Tested To Failure!)

[@willbingo]

Always testing and experimenting this is why this is my favorite rc channel

[@DoRC]

It's what I love to do I'm glad you enjoy it :-)

[@ValRC1]

It's a great ESC, and I'm not surprised! I have a couple ones of the older version and haven't broken a single one, ever! Some of them are like 7 years old and still run perfectly fine.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I was actually pretty impressed without it handled running the Valkyrie. That's way too much car for it and whereas it definitely wasn't thrilled about doing so it handled it okay.

[@slick2500]

Yeah the 10BL60 is a great esc in both the waterproof and sensored versions. A lot of ready to run escs are rebranded, rebadged or are based off of the Quicrun 10BL series of escs.

[@DoRC]

@@slick2500 yep

[@Rangoli_rc]

Great feature. Ima have to get one. This channel has quickly become my favorite. So educational. You really help a newbie like myself. I just did maintenance on my first brushless motor thanks to you. Keep up the awesome work. See you on the next one 👍✌🏼

[@DoRC]

Awesome I'm glad you're enjoying!

[@brothertax]

XT90 is great. Easy to solder and easy to handle. Great review. Thanks for reviewing these budget systems. I like to recommend affordable upgrades and this kit provides a great value. Great info (and editing).

[@DoRC]

Thanks glad you enjoyed! I do agree that XT90 is definitely easier to solder than EC5.

[@kylarstern7627]

My Go-to Connectors are XT-150. You can run in series and parallel without changing the setup and no loop connection.

[@DoRC]

Those are definitely sweet! As an added bonus if you want to get really spicy you can plug a battery into itself :-)

[@pf465]

I was hoping I would see someone say this. I use XT-150 also for the exact reason you mentioned. Less wires and resistance when running 2 packs.

[@rrrccc1571]

Great test of it! I am hoping they revise the 16BL30 to give that some updates while keeping the small footprint.

[@DoRC]

I'd imagine they will. They're probably updating everything with whatever their modern electronics are.

[@johanneswicklein4975]

Fml man...i just bought it for my brushless grom conversion😂

[@DoRC]

@johanneswicklein4975 I wouldn't worry too much about it. Who knows when they'll actually update it.

[@blakamin]

I switched everything to EC5 about 3 months ago, and love them.

[@DoRC]

Definitely a good connector.

[@alantaylor353]

I almost exclusively use Hobbywing, I've got like 20 of them in most flavours they make.! They're very durable & perform well enough for my needs.! 😉

[@DoRC]

Yeah they aren't quite as fancy as Castle but they certainly are cheaper!

[@RCRoads]

Your videos are So informative and fun to watch. Thanks for creating such great content. 👍

[@DoRC]

Thanks Glad you enjoy!

[@boduke9428]

I use EC5, IC5, or EC3 on 2s. I have a couple xt60 and xt90 but only because that's what came on the trucks and i haven't got around to changing them. I have thought about going to QS8 but I'm not crazy about soldering on batteries. Also Hobbywing is my go to brand. A XLX2 reducing my first Xmaxx to a puddle of plastic and Castle telling me to pound sand converted me. I'm actually OK with Spektrum stuff too. It looks and feels like if it's not rebranded Hobbywing it's a close as you can get usually. I'm really impressed with this little guy in the video. It really makes this seem like overkill for my Mojave Grom.

[@DoRC]

You're right on the money. Hobby wing makes all of the spectrum ESCs.

[@electricnitrorc]

Hobbywing is making some impressive stuff ,especially for the money 😊

[@DoRC]

Agreed. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything else that can do what this can for $40.

[@djayuntz]

Great tests and great tip on the shocks!

[@DoRC]

Thanks Glad you enjoyed!

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Just ordered some 3M VHB. I put a Firma 150 amp ESC in my Granite, and don't have a 3D printer (yet) so I thought I'd make do with some double sided Gorilla tape, but it doesn't feel secure enough to jump with. I won't forget to let it "soak in" for 24 hours after applying to cleaned surfaces. I'm still stoked with your NoCry screwdriver recommendation and torque reduction hack. Thanks for the tips!

[@DoRC]

Awesome. Yeah as long as the surfaces are clean and you let it sit at least for 12 hours it should hold just fine. I'm sometimes impatient and have failures but it's almost always my fault.

[@TheSPAZZANATER]

I have used those brand of ec5 that you have and have had no problems. They seem to run cooler then other brands of the same connector and have no problem with my larger rigs

[@DoRC]

Yes overall they are high quality EC5s.

[@jebrc]

The whole bl line is great i love the sensored g1 too for the price there are great also i use the gorilla double sided tape the 60pbs ive never had a esc come off

[@DoRC]

I've never tried the gorilla tape. I started out using VHB because I had it from some automotive stuff and it's always worked for me so I've never tried anything else.

[@jebrc]

@@DoRC fair enough . well i have used both and i cant say one is better i found the gorrila tape looking for 3m vhb and i found the tape at walmart i little cheaper and it works i do have both and will use what ever one i can grab first lol

[@DoRC]

@@jebrc If I ever run out of VHB I will definitely try it out!

[@BeachinRC603]

A really important step of double sided tape is cleaning your surface’s with an isopropyl alcohol or useing an activating chem of some sort I was having trouble with hardware coming loose till I started utilizing this crucial step

[@DoRC]

Absolutely. I've mentioned that many times in previous videos I just skipped it in this one :-)

[@mitsuman5555]

I agree the similar naming conventions are unnecessarily confusing to casual folks, it’s an odd choice. I have an old 10BL60 that’s been through hell and still works great, hope the new version is just as good!

[@DoRC]

Yeah you would think it's something that they would be interested in correcting but so far they haven't

[@Basher_Buggy]

This is what they’re putting in the MT10 for an ESC, my newest Mt10 had the Reedy branded G2 in it and my program card talks to it!

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@timb508]

You had the tool to pop the ball joints in and out, you used it for the shaft test to see if it was threaded m

[@DoRC]

Unfortunately the pin in the tool isn't quite big enough and would just get pushed into the hole of the ball. Also I've found that, especially with larger plastic balls, The tool tends to deform them. That's why I like just cutting them out of the old ball end and pushing them in either against a table or with a pair of smooth jaw pliers.

[@56118Rocket]

Hmm, when I purchased my Ezrun Max8 G2s ESC, it actually came with name brand 3M VHB double sided tape. Odd, maybe because this is a cheaper line up it doesn't?

[@DoRC]

Entirely possible. What they include with the ESCs seems to be kind of random. I have noticed though that the VHB that they include doesn't seem to work as well as the VHB that I normally use. I kind of wonder if it's not genuine.

[@shannonblack527]

Thank you for this video I was looking at this combo to put in a brushed 2wd rustler that’s boring and been setting for a while

[@DoRC]

Should work pretty well for that!

[@brandongollach]

I put this esc and a 3660 3500kv in a 4 wheel drive buggy and omg 🚀

[@OutlawRC]

I put the 16BL30 on my granite grom and on 2s will do standing backflips... Downside is definitely need to upgrade diffs for it soon.lol

[@DoRC]

Yeah even the 16 BL30 is a lot of ESC for that little car

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I got the quic run 10bl60 on a 1/16 hyper go with stock motor. It's too big but there is zero delay now in throttle response which feels good but I imagine the gears hate. Really wanna try it with a sensored motor.

[@DoRC]

Yeah if it's sensored that's the other 10 BL60. Hobby Wing has two with the same name which is super confusing.

[@CatDad1106]

Kinda bummed they are moving away from solder tabs but if it makes it easier for the majority I guess that’s a win. Thanks for the video 👍

[@DoRC]

They actually aren't. There are two 10 BL60 ESCs. The other one that is sensored still has the external tabs. I think they don't use those on waterproof ESCs because it's harder to maintain the waterproofing especially if someone puts a bunch of heat into it when they solder

[@pf465]

I have standardized my fleet to xt-60 for 1/10 crawlers down to16th scale go fast, and XT-150 for 1/10 up to 1/5 scale go fast or multi pack cars (Slash, 4s Kraton, 4s maxx, x-maxx etc). Less wires and resistance when running 2 packs.

[@DoRC]

Not a bad idea.

[@Hobz79]

Seriously considering switching to EC5 from XT90, just because of how hard it is to pull XT90s apart. That would be a long night of soldering....

[@DoRC]

The EC5s definitely are easier to pull apart. The only real downside is you lose the anti-Spark which may or may not be something you care about.

[@Mckhus]

As for esc testing, jumping is probs least amount of load it will see during bashing. One long pinned pass in thicker grass would test it more than 15 min of jumping. Good esc either way, hw really running away with their offerings with hardly any competition

[@DoRC]

I'm not sure I agree with that. A long pole in grass definitely will put a lot of load on it but I've thermally overloaded plenty of ESCs just doing back-to-back jumping including this one. Acceleration is always going to put the most load on the system so accelerating over and over and over again is pretty hard on it

[@allyoucando8486]

In my case, I use Alien Tape, and I you use a sand paper or sand sponge. The tape will stick even more

[@DoRC]

I've never heard of alien tape. I'll have to check it out

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

0:21 woah woah woah. Independently tested and verified water resistance rating? Hasn’t hobbywing been paying attention? No one independently tests and verifies water resistance in this hobby! We just slap that “waterproof” label on the box and ship it! Next thing you know we are gonna start seeing C ratings on lipos! Oh wait…

[@DoRC]

Well let's not get hasty. They say it's IP 67 waterproof but that doesn't necessarily mean anybody else does :-)

[@FlynnJ802]

I have the other model wp 10bl60. What do you run the motor timing setting on. I personally don’t have any experience I’m going to turn it to 0 see what happens. Thanks for always putting out great videos with good information.

[@DoRC]

I'm probably not the right person to ask that question too. I usually just leave all of the settings at their defaults. Whatever the default setting is should be fine

[@FlynnJ802]

Okay thanks. I would assume the same from what research I found timing should be at zero it comes default at 11.5. I will just play around with it see if it runs smoother.

[@PeterAlbury-b4l]

So what happened,?​@FlynnJ802

[@dylanwhite6539]

I a massive fan of the XT90 anti sparking connectors far cheaper than EC5/IC5 official connectors. While yes the IC5 is higher current by being a bigger bullet, sparking does degrade the connector. I have no proof but I’d wager a xt90 anti sparking connector probably had better ampacity after 500 or so cycles since the connectors don’t have the arcing damage. That being said I definitely intend on integrating some QS8 connectors into my fleet. I’m not sure what I was thinking soldering xt90 to a max5 g2

[@DoRC]

Yeah that's one of the main reasons I use XT90 and QC8. I love the anti-Spark.

[@AsurasWrath164]

Xt90 should suffice for most max5 uses. The higher the voltage the lower the amps. A friend of mine had one the 1st gen castle xlx esc, these large green aluminium bricks, and used deans t-plug on 8s. No problem at all!

[@DoRC]

@AsurasWrath164 That's not quite true. Most higher voltage ESCs are also higher current and are usually paired with motors that can draw higher current.

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@DoRC I’ve seen much debate about it. I’m using mine in an xrt. They do get warm but not terribly hot. It’s mostly a pain in the ass to fit the wire and I’m not terribly satisfied with the solder joint. I also want to solder some taps for 4s fans anyway. Also zeee just recently started selling their 10K 4s packs with QS8 anti spark connectors so that’ll save me some work soldering. When my older set of 9Ks retire I’ll put my current 10k with xt90 on my Xmaxx which still uses a stock esc and upgrade the max5 to QS8. I still want to maintain cross compatibility with the Xmaxx and xrt so the Xmaxx will eventually get QS8 as well. Likely still with the vxl 8s

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@AsurasWrath164 honestly the fact we ever used deans plugs is kinda terrifying to me. Those suckers were tiny and didn’t have much to solder to

[@dylanwhite6539]

Official speaking, the two different escs are WP-10BL60 and 10BL60 SD

[@DoRC]

Fair enough but it is still a little confusing :-)

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

Now do some tests on the 10bl120 g2

[@DoRC]

What specifically are you asking for here?

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

​@DoRC , sorry, typo and I got distracted and didn't finish the question, I didn't even think it had sent...lol Do you plan to try the 10BL120 G2 at all?

[@DoRC]

@isaiahfurrow7414 yep:) kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3a9oHWKp5x_qLM

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

​@@DoRC I didn't even realize there is also a non-sensored version...

[@AVERAGEJOERC]

4:07 can u clarify what u meant to say here??

[@DoRC]

The g2 motors are actually sealed against water entering. Most brushless motors aren't and call themselves waterproof because even though water gets in them it generally not harmful.

[@OutlawRC]

mine came with Deans plug.

[@DoRC]

I'm not surprised. It seems pretty random what they put on and whether or not they do

[@martincihlar5327]

will you do a video on the motor?

[@DoRC]

Probably not. To be honest there's not really anything new or interesting about the motor. It's a pretty basic brushless motor though the hobbywing motors have been very reliable in my experience so I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if you're in the market.

[@martincihlar5327]

no i already have one i just wanted to know what do you think about it

[@DoRC]

@@martincihlar5327 ah ok. Yeah it's fine. I don't think you'll have any issues with it. It's probably not the most advanced motor in the world but it will certainly get the job done.

[@ericthestone]

Will this be a good combo for the arrma Grom?

[@DoRC]

Probably not. The motor definitely won't fit and the ESC is going to be pretty big.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Weird, HW used to include VHB

[@DoRC]

I heard from someone else that their G2S had VHB so they might not include it with the cheaper ones or they might just randomly include different styles. What they include with their ESCs seems to be all over the place.

[@PeterAlbury-b4l]

I run 2 and 3s batteries. I see the bigger brother to this esc the ( 10bl120 ) for just $5 dollars more , should I just get that one instead? Would it run cooler ?

[@DoRC]

Yes it would run cooler.

[@PeterAlbury-b4l]

@DoRC thank you so much for all the info that you supply to me for free 😊 😀 I really do appreciate it

[@OmniMan_Racing]

Did you call it a gps @ 0:10 ? Lol Ec5 and Ec8 plugs

[@DoRC]

Cheap ESC :-)

[@nickhathaway4617]

Do you have a outcast 6s wondering if the red cat body might fit

[@DoRC]

Sorry no I don't.

[@InaMopar]

What’s the better esc for general bashing the WP10Bl120G2 or this one

[@DoRC]

In what vehicle?

[@InaMopar]

@@DoRCit’s because I have the WP10Bl120G2 in my Traxxas bandit but I want to get another car and might take that system out of it so should I buy another 120 or a 60

[@bashmasterRC]

Hey Kevin, will this fit in the groms?

[@DoRC]

Maybe but it's not ideal.

[@bashmasterRC]

@@DoRC that's what I figured. I've been through two 16bl30s and I'm trying to find something that I can handle just a little more power. Mmx2 might just be the best option just a little pricey! Thanks for getting back to me!!

[@henryallen1121]

My 10bl 120 doesn’t engage reverse very well. I have to hit reverse a couple times for it to work but reverse works just fine when I change the running mode to forward and reverse. Can someone help? I really want to use forward reverse with breaks

[@DoRC]

This could just be a function of the way the system works. The hobbywing ESCs will engage breaking the first time you hit reverse and then you have to release and hit reverse again to go backwards. If you're sitting still basically this means you have to double click and hold reverse. If you're not used to it it can kind of feel like it's happening at random.

[@henryallen1121]

Im familiar with it my arrma is the same way but its literally not engaging at all. The green light lights up indicating that im giving it full reverse but nothing until I do it a couple of times then it kicks in

[@DoRC]

@@henryallen1121 If you're doing the correct procedure and the green light is coming on then it sounds like it's just not outputting the reverse to the motor which would indicate it potential bad ESC.

[@brandongollach]

​@henryallen1121 mine does that too I've recalibrated it over 5 times now 😢

[@WowoodogPlays]

I am looking to replace the electronics in my slash 4x4 as they tend to get hot, what do you recommend as an affordable set

[@DoRC]

The hw 10bl120 combo is a good option.

[@WowoodogPlays]

@ if you recommend it, I think that will be a good purchase then, thanks

[@DoRC]

@WowoodogPlays have you tried fans on the current electronics? If not it could be a cheaper solution.

[@WowoodogPlays]

@@DoRC no I have but I am rebuilding a vintage stampede and was thinking about putting the vxl 3s system in it from my slash and upgrading the slash’s electronics

[@DoRC]

Gotcha. Makes sense.

[@adriafitzy6459]

$40 for something like this? Are they trying to kill their own 16bl30?! Love it, probably the best value ESC for a 1/10th on road car.

[@DoRC]

It's definitely a good value for money.

[@L.U.C.K.Y333]

What do you think of this esc with a 5200kv motor on 3s ?mainly for a road car

[@DoRC]

5200 KV is very high for 3S and you're likely going to end up physically spinning the motor faster than it's rated for which could cause it to get destroyed.

[@L.U.C.K.Y333]

@@DoRC mainly for speed runs but thanks for the info 👍🏻

[@DoRC]

@@L.U.C.K.Y333 For speed runs you want to have the largest electronics you can fit running the highest voltage you can get away with. A high KV does not necessarily mean that the car will be able to go faster as ultimate top speed Is generally going to be limited by how much power the electronics have to push the car through the wall of air that's in front of it.

[@L.U.C.K.Y333]

@@DoRC gotcha,I had the motor laying around so don’t want invest a lot of money so looking for the cheapest route to go fast lol

[@DoRC]

@@L.U.C.K.Y333 Well this ESC is definitely cheap and whereas it's definitely not the most powerful thing in the world This hobby is all about experimenting so I say get it put it in and see how it goes :-)

[@daylightdies7194]

Hmmmmm looks small enough to fit in my Tamiya neo fighter

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's pretty small. If it doesn't the other 10 BL60 I mentioned in the video is quite a bit smaller and almost certainly would fit

[@LucianTugui]

What Matt is that?

[@DoRC]

It's just a standard green cutting mat I got on Amazon

[@dylanwhite6539]

Basically the same specs as a vxl when you ignore the vxl 3s’ stupid 200a constant. 320a burst, 6v3a bec, 14 gauge wire. Really shows how overpriced Traxxas is

[@DoRC]

Yeah I don't believe 200 amps constant for a second on the VXL3s.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

200 amp continuous would light that sucker on fire. Specs are blatant lies in this hobby. Trust none of them unless they provide independent verification

[@DoRC]

@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe For the most part I think that's a reasonable. I do think that 60 amps continuous is a reasonable number out of this ESC though

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@DoRC I think there’s a reason the vxl 4s and up have no official specs

[@DoRC]

@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah I always thought that was kind of weird.

[@politie_jip112]

does it fit in arrma grom cars?

[@DoRC]

You might be able to get it to fit but it's probably not your best choice. I'd suggest going with either the Mamba micro X2 or the other 10 BL60 which is quite a bit smaller.

[@politie_jip112]

@@DoRC alr

[@politie_jip112]

​@@DoRC do you think its worth it to get this1 over a ztw gen2 60amp wich is about half the price?

[@DoRC]

@@politie_jip112 I do. You're not really talking about that much more money in raw dollars and where as the ZTW ESCs are cool they're a little too quirky for me to be able to recommend for general use.

[@politie_jip112]

@@DoRC i am from the netherlands so its euros you got subscribers all over the place with quirky you mean dialed in with consistantcy? what does a 32bit processor do

[@haringbu4ng]

Would this work for a jjrc 16101 stock motor?

[@haringbu4ng]

Stock motor is 2847 4000kv

[@DoRC]

I'm not sure. A lot of those smaller brushless cars use smaller bullets than this would have so you might have to use an adapter. Also if it's a two-in-one you need to get a different receiver

[@JacobScherer]

The video title says "Tested to Failure!" but I didn't see any failure?

[@DoRC]

Sorry I mentioned in the last section that it went into thermal overload and shut down. That's probably about as failed as one of these ESCs will get since they have protections for things like that.

[@JacobScherer]

@@DoRC I was hoping for fire 😂

[@DoRC]

@@JacobScherer I understand. That would have been dramatic and probably would have led to more views but hobbywing Yes he's will usually shut themselves off before something dramatic happens

[@robertmonty6544]

Will it handle 13.5 or 17.5 motor

[@DoRC]

I'm not sure. Those are brushed motor specifications and there is no direct conversion to brushless KV.

[@feverexplosion1968]

Why does my 10bl60 g2 esc smell like barn animal?

[@DoRC]

I've heard of new ESC's smelling like a lot of things but barn animal is not one of them. Couldn't tell you.

[@feverexplosion1968]

Thank you

[@PeterAlbury-b4l]

Must have run through kaka 😂

[@AndrewSury]

I bought a few of these things presale that came in a few weeks ago. They look tiny for what they can do. Going to put them in trail trucks.

[@DoRC]

Yeah overall I'm pretty impressed with them. Definitely not appropriate for something as heavy as the Valkyrie but for smaller vehicles they work well

[@alantaylor353]

Is Hobbywing "off brand".?

[@DoRC]

No that wasn't worded well. There should have been a comma between other and off-brand :-)

[@richardbrown6762]

I'm not going to run my car in water 😮😅

[@DoRC]

Well some people do and a lot of people including myself like to wash their cars off. I prefer to have my electronics be waterproof just in case.

[@richardbrown6762]

@@DoRC I don't run my cars in wet spots parts are hard to get now adays

[@richardbrown6762]

I'll keep my cars clean they last longer

[@DoRC]

@@richardbrown6762 Fair enough. I live in a place where the ground is often wet so if I only ever ran when I could keep my cars clean I wouldn't be able to run half the time

[@hpiracing1017]

Im too early.

[@DoRC]

Nah. Just in time!