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New Suzuki GSX-S1000GT (2022) Review | 2 days in Scotland

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Күн бұрын

We spend two days in Scotland with BikeSocial’s own King of the Sports Tourers, Simon Hargreaves, as he explores the good, bad and ugly of the brand new for 2022 #Suzuki #GSXS1000GT sports tourer #motorcycle which will have some strong competition next year from the Honda NT1100, Yamaha Tracer 9GT and Kawasaki Z1000SX.
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@-DC-
@-DC- 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki have struck gold with this fantastic package incredible price 💪
@zedddddful
@zedddddful 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki has knocked it out the park with this one the value for money is killer and finally they've made a bike that's not butt ugly 👍
@rockyp3917
@rockyp3917 2 жыл бұрын
The front of this bike is ugly
@BodybuildingSteve
@BodybuildingSteve Жыл бұрын
The problem is the z1000sx is almost the same price and while this bike seems fantastic every review I’ve seen says the Kawasaki is just a bit better and really there’s no reason to take this over the sx unless you are completely in love with the way this looks
@zedddddful
@zedddddful Жыл бұрын
@@BodybuildingSteve the SX weighs a tonne and is a lot less sporty not that that's a issue if you want more of a tourer but the Suzuki is a weapon I've tried a SX and didn't gel at all with it I've not tried this current generation gsx but I tried the gsx1000f which is basically the same and no comparison imo.
@BodybuildingSteve
@BodybuildingSteve Жыл бұрын
@@zedddddful both are fast but for me personally the whole reason of buying a sport tourer is to tour, if I want to rag/corner as well as possible I’d get a sports bike, Kawasaki definitely loses in weight being around 15kg heavier, I’ve never had a Kawasaki and had multiple Suzukis, I love them but I think between these two I’d go for the Kawasaki personally
@FrankBonessa
@FrankBonessa 16 күн бұрын
@@rockyp3917 I dig it.
@EDVINUXXX
@EDVINUXXX 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't understand how come reviewers keep talking about the dash and not a single one goes into it and shows how things look and how to navigate it etc...
@sivanm2130
@sivanm2130 2 жыл бұрын
It’s based on Bosch mySPIN, a generic dash package that’s also used by Ducati and BMW. Compatible apps can mirror their display to the dash over WiFI. So expect pairing and keeping your phone in a tank bag charging over usb.
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing to navigate. What you see is what you get, as we were clearly told.
@EDVINUXXX
@EDVINUXXX 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickthequick are you ill? There is a whole menu with more features inside. even the above comment suggests there is more to it.
@allwheeldrive
@allwheeldrive 2 жыл бұрын
A thought after riding and driving for nearly 50 years. The lack of initial emotional connection will turn into long-term love. Trust. Honda has built their entire business off making your bike essentially disappear beneath you; you becoming one with it (which is why the NT1100 will sell well, despite the cost, and will be ridden by the original owners well into the 100Ks). I'd give up those personality traits in a heartbeat for that experience, day in and out. The mid-range in this bike has been described as turbine-like. The ride, even as described here, is smooth and glides over the bumps. Look, if I'm going to spend hours in the saddle, I'd much prefer to leave those other "personality traits" at home and revel in the refinement. Performance, clearly, isn't lacking here, either. Time for a triple, in-depth head-to-head: 9 GT, 1000SX, 1000GT! And put some real miles on them!
@baymoto553
@baymoto553 2 жыл бұрын
The 1100 Honda engine is quite nice but is not in the same league performance wise as this one. I had a 2019 Africa Twin and the engine was quite enjoyable but a bit under powered imho.
@zafaralvi4407
@zafaralvi4407 2 жыл бұрын
John W. Perfect comment. That's what a long distance tourer wants. Smooth & reliable bike.
@allwheeldrive
@allwheeldrive 2 жыл бұрын
@@baymoto553 It could use more beans, for sure. But it's probably got a pretty fat mid-range where 90% of the work will be done. The 1000GT is very compelling, and the power won't be wasted :)
@simonclare100
@simonclare100 2 жыл бұрын
9 GT - has poor suspension mate and brakes are not the best, seat connection wobbles constantly. It's out the door soon
@flanners41
@flanners41 2 жыл бұрын
The NT1100 looks a complete Munter.....looks old already, old man's bike
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 2 жыл бұрын
Simon talks, we listen. Not my sort of bike, usually, but I like it. I think a winner from Suzuki . Everything you need and very little you don't. Happy travels
@Kalsino
@Kalsino 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Suzuki GSX 1100 F from 1995, i and can´t wait when i get rich to get that Suzuki GSX-S 1000 GT.
@That0T
@That0T 2 жыл бұрын
If I could only have 1 bike it would be the GSX 1000GT
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
When you consider its cheaper than a Harley Sportster 883 with 49hp it is an insane deal.
@Teatimeted
@Teatimeted 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly wouldn't have been cheaper than a Harley Sportster in the UK (if they still sold them). The Iron 883 was 3 grand cheaper over here, roughly speaking. Just checked current US prices too, and the GT is about 3 grand more expensive than an Iron 883. Not that either bike is remotely similar, but people do love to compare apples to oranges.
@donaldpyper4627
@donaldpyper4627 2 жыл бұрын
That says more about Harleys horrendous power output than anything else!
@richardmarsh1332
@richardmarsh1332 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. For me the Suzuki has three clear advantages. Firstly the seat height is considerably lower than the SX Secondly its lighter than the SX Thirdly it has more power than the SX. The first two things are more important to me being 29" inside leg plus being old(70+) less weight is everything. Having said all that, like so many other machines today the lack of a center stand is a big mistake when marketing the bike as a sports "tourer". As to poor fuel consumption I guess this will depend on how hard to ride it but keep the revs down and use the torque of the motor and I bet you will get close to 50 mpg but if you wring it's neck (and stay alive that is) probably well under 40 mpg. The pillion seat doesn't look comfy for long distances for the wife and would have been better if styled like a Versys 1000 or Tracer 9 gt but these day style is put before function just like front mudguards that look great but don't stop mud. Hay ho
@sivanm2130
@sivanm2130 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, enjoyed the written one as well. Good points, especially interesting regarding the wind support for the upper body. Coming from a sport bike it's something I want, but it wasn't clear how the new more upright riding position interacts with the wind shield. I am slightly disappointed at the level of equipment on offer, but appreciate the entire bike as a whole. The non-remote, stepped preload adjuster on the shock, the axial master cylinder and rubber lines, and the 190/50 tire profile. The heated grips option is very expensive. It's also strange to offer an IMU on the V-Strom but not here. I still want the bike, but Suzuki really is penny pinching at a time when the competition is heating up.
@alleghenymotorcycleadventu3737
@alleghenymotorcycleadventu3737 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Great editing. I'm glad you weren't too far along on that bridge since the cager never even stopped to look.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Bless 'em, took ages to find reverse. I think they wanted me to paddle backwards along the bridge.
@nabiji
@nabiji 2 жыл бұрын
This will be my next motorcycle.
@travelinben1966
@travelinben1966 2 жыл бұрын
A home run for Suzuki that should sell like hot cakes.I can’t wait to give one a go.👍🏻👍🏻
@junderwoituk
@junderwoituk 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had the twin head lights on all the time, not a fan of only having one, but that's really minor and the bike looks really nice. Bit limited on colours...
@MachoMadness69420
@MachoMadness69420 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. You can almost hear Simon getting all teary eyed because he’s once again on a bike with the legendary K5 motor 😉
@TrulyUniqueOne
@TrulyUniqueOne 2 жыл бұрын
The motor is nothing like the k5's. Not even close
@mbal4052
@mbal4052 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrulyUniqueOne it is a K5 engine you numpty
@Oscar240z
@Oscar240z 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. No remote preload is beyond cheap!
@alphacapo
@alphacapo 2 жыл бұрын
It is. But do you really need it? Heated grips? Just buy heated gloves...store them in your tank bag.
@RickyLafleur10
@RickyLafleur10 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even know what remote preload is so guessing I won't miss it
@alphacapo
@alphacapo 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickyLafleur10 makes it adjustment easy to get at. Most people set preload once after a month or so with the bike and leave it alone. Some people never make any adjustment
@RickyLafleur10
@RickyLafleur10 2 жыл бұрын
@Jerk Ass I have never touched the suspension on any bike I have had so not something I think I would miss.
@user-ck1me4dl9v
@user-ck1me4dl9v 2 жыл бұрын
Well put together review and excellent presentation. Thank you.
@klwangxiaomi4027
@klwangxiaomi4027 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using Suzuki GSX1250FA (2015) with present 72000km and still running superb conditions. Thinking of 2nd bike 🤔 and hoping Suzuki GSX1000GT to include Heater Grip, Center Stand & Adjustable Wind Screen (refer to Yamaha Tracer 9 GT was all-in) in order to get the highest sell & best Tourer bike of all. ✌
@geraldconomo1454
@geraldconomo1454 2 жыл бұрын
yes I am with you.. centre stand is not negotiable.. the Kazi has one.. the screen is what it is...be nicer if it adjusted...but I have had bikes with adjustable screens and were still terrible... and heated grips would be very nice and for a small price you could get some... but touring it is a must Please Suzuki get a centre stand on this bike. it is gorgeous and I get one straight sway if it had one...Gerry
@itairusmihsah3770
@itairusmihsah3770 2 жыл бұрын
Dear mr.presenter, you described the bike so clinically precise, liked my professor of anatomy 25yr ago!!
@ivanhoe4766
@ivanhoe4766 2 жыл бұрын
One difference I am seeing multiple times in comparing the Ninja 1000SX is the quick shifter. Everyone says they love the smooth up and down shifting of the GSX S1000 GT compared to the Ninja which is great on up shifts but clunky on downshifts. I have no personal experience on the SX.
@MMOsForLife
@MMOsForLife 2 жыл бұрын
GT is smooth as silk. Both ways. Unless you're downshifting or upshifting at a relative low RPM in the first place. Otherwise, it shifts quick and smoothly up or down as if you used the clutch. But faster :)
@Bobby-ic2zd
@Bobby-ic2zd 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the criteria was, but 2 days on the bike, and he doesn't talk about: the up/down quick shifter, Brembo brakes, slipper clutch, low rpm assist, easy start, cruise control, blue tooth, the Suzuki app that pairs your phone to display, USB port, led headlights, or anything else relevant. Comparing this 2022 GT sports tourer to a naked 2016 GSXS-1000 streetfighter isn't relevant now either, the GSX-S1000F was marketed as a comfortable sports bike, and this GT is the evolution of that bike, not the naked. Didn't even include any exhaust clips. All I heard was that this bike is meh, and the panniers stick out. Obviously biased, for whatever reason, good thing anybody checking this bike out will see Visordown's actual review.
@22RoadKing647
@22RoadKing647 2 жыл бұрын
If you ride any motorcycle hard, you're going to get bad fuel economy. While you could remove the bags and take it to the track, it's still a touring bike. You mentioned seeing fuel economy in low 40s, but with a 19 liter tank (about 5 gallons), that's still over 200 miles per tank. That's not so bad. It's also a very well priced bike. Adding heated grips won't break the bank.
@magpiemale
@magpiemale 2 жыл бұрын
To me it looks stunning... love the fact sat nav can be added to the screen... Hp equivalent to my older fz1 fazer 2012 The sub 150 mile tank is a bummer missed a beat on 200 mile possible
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of a shame to have a review from someone who is consistently into bikes "with character" and who clearly doesn't value the smoothness of inline fours which people who go long distance touring know is very valuable. Simon can get all giddy talking about a number of other bikes that aren't spectacular, so I am left wondering if he had an off day ... This Suzuki 1000 GT (which it should have been called for brevity) is undoubtedly a direct response to the Ninja 1000SX, there can be no two ways about it, the similarities are striking and the differences are minimal - apart from the looks. As a Ninja owner myself I prefer its looks, which I find a bit less bland. If you spec the Suzuki exactly as a Ninja 1000SX Tourer (they are after all both sport tourers ..) down to the USB port then the Suzuki is £13,217.00 vs Kawasaki £12,483.00 (according to their respective web sites). For that higher price you get 44 cm³ less displacement, 7.5 more kW, 5 less Nm, higher emission (+8 g/km), higher fuel consumption (+ 0.3 l/100 km), more pannier space, no adjustable windscreen and less electronics. I know numbers don't say it all, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
@gizzync1525
@gizzync1525 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the old sport tourers. now i'm almost 50 the new crop of rrrrr's are getting a little too much for me ro stay comfortable on. these will give me the sports bike look and most of the performance while breaking my body.
@MMOsForLife
@MMOsForLife 2 жыл бұрын
I'm older than you. The GT is comfortable. Great for 1UP longer rides. Can do 2UP but it's definitely not a cross-country 8 hour starship.
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 15 күн бұрын
Good review. Don't forget the GSX1250FA Bandit. 2011-2016. My mate still rides one with full Givi hard luggage.
@jedigeekbiker
@jedigeekbiker 2 жыл бұрын
first suzuki ive wanted out of all the new ones,. seems bang on
@geraldconomo1454
@geraldconomo1454 2 жыл бұрын
love it... but why Suzuki did you leave out a centre stand... gerry
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review & a decent bike seemingly. Although get where you're coming from in that it's typically Suzuki, so a great package at a good price but ultimately a bit unremarkable maybe? Not a fan of adventure bikes at all so very happy with the sports tourer resurgence. Also got the very interesting Moto Guzzi V100 out soon too which is the most appealing new sports tourer I've seen so far imo.
@stevensullivan5287
@stevensullivan5287 2 жыл бұрын
The V100 has my undivided attention, what a lovely machine, hopefully it meets our expectations.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevensullivan5287 Agreed. It's the bike that potentially ticks all the boxes for me, although I doubt it will be a bargain, especially the version with the semi active Ohlins.
@TheRjacob82
@TheRjacob82 2 жыл бұрын
Bike looks great and I can't wait to ride it, but I like the kawi clip on risers better. Probably doesn't make a difference in the handling...
@derekgray7716
@derekgray7716 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect review Si, been a fan of your reviews from back in the day of PB with the gang!! Met you lot at the NEC when the R1 was launched. Awesome work fella 🙌🏻👍🏻🍻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek, it's all changed since then 🤪 probably just a well.
@derekgray7716
@derekgray7716 2 жыл бұрын
@@writestuffmedia it sure did buddy, the tech got real and the reviewer kept it smooth. Cheers 👏🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🍻
@derekgray7716
@derekgray7716 2 жыл бұрын
But would you have a GSX-S1000GT in your stable? I love that motor so it's a yes from me when I give up being a yob 👍🏻🙌🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🍻 Maybe a map and some bling, she be right ✊🏼🎯
@strix2035
@strix2035 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how could this could be Called The best sports Tourer of the year when Kawasaki does it better and cheaper for a while now
@fleuger99
@fleuger99 Жыл бұрын
Great review on a really nice bike. It is on my list to test ride if my local dealers ever get one in.
@Mike.4639
@Mike.4639 2 жыл бұрын
First good looking Suzuki since they launched the first GSXR in the 80s hehe
@Reboot12345678910
@Reboot12345678910 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike! It should come with IMU and for a GT, a rear rack instead of those terrible grab handles... a rear rack comes in handy. Use mine all the time on my V-Strom 1000.
@HighMaintenancePS
@HighMaintenancePS 2 жыл бұрын
I’m considering either bike. What range do you get from your v strom? I would prefer this gsxs had another 60 miles fuel on it.
@Reboot12345678910
@Reboot12345678910 2 жыл бұрын
@@HighMaintenancePS If a ride slow (cruise, tour) I'm able to get around 415km on a tank... if I twist the throttle and push the twisties with my Ducati friend, 310-360'ish What's great about my V-Strom 1000 is that I load that thing with my 42L SW Motech side cases, more stuff stacked on top of them, a drybag duffle on the rack and my wife on the back. We ride comfortably and have everything we need for camping trips and the gas is not that bad... still around 350'ish
@MMOsForLife
@MMOsForLife 2 жыл бұрын
Two different m/cs. Despite the rough equivalency. A rack on the GT would look odd. But I don't care for the V-Strom anyway and would never consider one. It's a more utilitarian m/c. The GT is a comfy GSX-R with panniers.
@markmazzella5222
@markmazzella5222 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a well rounded review,. It looks like Suzuki made a great bike to compete with Kawasakis ninja 1000 , I wish either one of theses bikes available locally but with the past year all the dealers say it may be a while but I can’t wait. I’ll probably buy the first one that’s available
@mats3188
@mats3188 Жыл бұрын
Good review👍. The bike is really easy to handle and the engine has enough power and With the comfort sadel it,s even better.After ride it this summer i only have to say the bike is easy to love.Everything just works.
@A_Pt_9298
@A_Pt_9298 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's better! Hugely better than the naked version of the bike, a front fairing for protection 👍
@fizzy49cc
@fizzy49cc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of Derek & Clive at the end
@BN1960
@BN1960 2 жыл бұрын
Well done for not swearing 😀
@edmorris4103
@edmorris4103 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a Ninja 1000sx, and I'm really interested in this bike. Sport-touring seems to be making a comeback for sure. That said, the NT1100 is most definitely *NOT* a sport-touring bike. Touring, yes. But sport it ain't.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
A-ha! You say that, but it depends on your definition of sports tourer. I think the NT is pretty sporty. It's certainly got sportier steering than the GSX-S GT. Same rider on both bikes at Cadwell Park, I'm not sure there'd be a lot in it. On the road, well, depends what the road is. On twisty country lanes the NT might even be quicker, thanks to its agility. On wider, flowing A-roads where the GT can use its performance, maybe the other way round. The guy who led the NT's handling and chassis development, Nonoyana-san, has an international race licence and loves a good track day.
@RickyLafleur10
@RickyLafleur10 2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of trading in my Z900 to get either the ninja 1000 SX or the suzuki 1000gt. I like the Kawasaki but to get the bags and usb plug have to get those as an add on package that is 1400 dollars and the bags are smaller then the suzuki. So after getting bags the Kawasaki will come out to be more expensive. I like Kawasaki bikes though really torn on which one to get.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickyLafleur10 It's a very tight choice. I reckon you need a test ride on both.
@edmorris4103
@edmorris4103 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickyLafleur10 Definitely understand that. A tip for the Kawi bags: order them from Europe. No joke, you'll get them faster and save a few hundred bucks. I did this with mine and couldn't be happier.
@RickyLafleur10
@RickyLafleur10 2 жыл бұрын
@ed morris you have a link where to get them are they color match the bike. I ordered a pair of sidi tree boots from Italy got them in under a week and save 200 dollars over US prices because the boot is made in Italy. But hard to find a place to ship them as sidi really does not allow it as they have US distributors.
@peterhickey5889
@peterhickey5889 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bike. Not sure how much "tourer" you'd want to do two-up over multiple days. I guess it's a Sports/Tourer if your comparison Sport bike is a MotoGP bike. What's with the headlights? If you have two, then turn them on. I've never heard anyone say they had too much light.
@pabz83
@pabz83 2 жыл бұрын
Look wise Suzuki hit it out of the park, I'm usually not a fan of sport tourers, but this just popped up in my wishlist
@delhiietsunny4100
@delhiietsunny4100 2 жыл бұрын
Right now I m riding gsx s750 I think this gsx 1000gt is good upgrade after 750 ..
@daniellacko6620
@daniellacko6620 2 жыл бұрын
*yessir*
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 2 жыл бұрын
I think would be a good choice, either the GT model or the GSX-S1000 which is also new for this year.
@yakekaj
@yakekaj 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking, but going up from a GSX650F...🤔
@delhiietsunny4100
@delhiietsunny4100 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks.
@hornet224
@hornet224 2 жыл бұрын
Your not a fan, but it checks ALL the boxes in my book for a liter GT+. Make mine blue!
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
I AM a fan! I really, really like it. But I can tell it's not an instant love affair - for me, the GT is a bike you'd need to own, modify & make your own to truly bond with it - and you'd keep it for years and years.
@kevinf-b5065
@kevinf-b5065 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have dismissed the lack of center stand too lightly. I see any bike with a chain drive designed for touring needs a center stand as an essential item. I ride a new NC750x DCT purely because of my age and arthritis having traded down from a 2015 crosstourer (massively too top heavy). I would take a serious look at the NT1100 for my next purchase but await a serious review, ie not one sponsored by the manufacturer picking their favorite journo's to attend a mass jolly in Scotland!
@aunoates6617
@aunoates6617 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been on a jolly but I can tell you a centre stand is not at all essential.
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 2 жыл бұрын
Chains don't need maintenance anymore. Just replace them
@MatBettinson
@MatBettinson 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why no one points this out but center stands are heavy. Why carry all that around with you just to make it a bit easier to oil the chain. I'd much sooner a paddock stand. I'm sure you can make some argument re chain maintenance while touring but again, I'd happier not to lug 5kg extra around and just push the bike a bit to lube.
@mikehamilton9128
@mikehamilton9128 2 жыл бұрын
Neither this Suzuki or the Kawasaki have centre stands, but it doesn't seem to have held sales of the Kawasaki back over the past 10 years! Just fit a chain oiler, (Scottoiler, PDoiler, Tuturo, etc) and enjoy long chain life.
@kevinf-b5065
@kevinf-b5065 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikehamilton9128 Have you seen the mess an auto oiler makes and its no good without proper chain cleaning to remove all the muck first. Road grime is the biggest killer of chains. Until everyone fits the new BMW style sealed chain adjustment, cleaning and lubrication is the only way to long chain life. Cleaning adjusting and lubricating is simple with a center stand, can't carry a paddock stand on a tour!
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA 2 жыл бұрын
On the range of the tank... It's a 5 gallon tank... so if you are on the highway just cruising along, a modest 40mph should get you pretty close to that 200 mile range, no?
@ToeTag1968
@ToeTag1968 2 жыл бұрын
Does the addition of panniers alone make it a tourer? Beautiful bike, don't get me wrong, but who wants to lean over their tank for 400 miles a day? Not me.
@andrewshore262
@andrewshore262 2 жыл бұрын
I called into my local Suzuki dealer last week to pick up some spares and asked about this bike, apparently it’s doing really well already and there’s quite a sizeable queue for test rides. No centre stand / heated grips / IMU or adjustable screen is a let down, the tank range according to other testers wasn’t an issue hmmmm 🤔
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 2 жыл бұрын
There is a huge group of riders who don't want any of those things, and they don't want to pay for them either. You know how it goes, company come to market with a bunch of new tech(i.e. IMU), group of fellas in the corner always groan that they like it the "old" way.
@allwheeldrive
@allwheeldrive 2 жыл бұрын
Agree about the stuff not included, except the center stand. However, not a deal breaker. I've seen, too, fuel consumption was not in the range they got here, and provided a good 200 miles/tank.
@graeme6539
@graeme6539 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's somehow incompatable with Oxford grips, who cares ?. As the official Honda dealer I bought my CBR650R from said - '2x more effective than the OEM at 1/3 price'. I also don't think the non-adjustable screen matters -plenty of fully adjustable screens are awful at their basic task, by all accounts this one does a great job. No getting around the IMU though, can't add them on after if you want one. The centre stand is basically the fault of the Euro regs - Manufacturers have to add more & more stuff to meet emissions & they mostly have to go under the bike. Not saying it's impossible, just harder every year. As for fuel range - you'll never, ever get as low mileage as moto journalists seem to mangage, on any bike, for obvious reasons.
@madcockney
@madcockney 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a much older bike that has no ABS, IMU, etc and no electronically controlled throttle , so would I miss them ? No, but if I was used to them, maybe.
@andrewshore262
@andrewshore262 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorepower13 Yourself like the others who’ve commented about not requiring the omissions might be missing the overall point I was trying to make. The nearest competitor has cornering ABS, remotely adjustable rear shock (because messing about with a C spanner went out with the ark) and an adjustable screen but here’s the kicker the Kawasaki costs less money. Would I miss 10 horsepower doubtful, would I notice the extra torque of the competitor also doubtful. Suzuki have to be at least as good for the money on paper (VFM) and that’s debatable, but that’s just the way I see it, you’re welcome to your opinions of course. They just failed to really get into the fight as top dog, and that I believe would make a very big difference.
@motorbikesandhacks
@motorbikesandhacks 2 жыл бұрын
Just pick up a nice CBR1100XX with luggage for about 4k, if you can live without the ABS and traction control.
@marksimpson5218
@marksimpson5218 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a old bike, go for it.
@MultiGoulash
@MultiGoulash 2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking bike, but the tank range is well, very underwhelming. Over 230- 250 miles to a tank on my last Versys. If this bike can only do 150, then no thanks
@dangothdangoth5449
@dangothdangoth5449 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking bike
@madcockney
@madcockney 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Also good to see a rider not cutting the corner, checking where he is going first, and thanking the car driver even if the driver should have been on the ball. I like the look of the bike, though I also like the look of the Kawa 1000SX, and as you said Suzuki is late to the party. I do think that this segment of the market has become neglected by many thinking that the adventure bike market was the place for touring and general riding, but to riders like me that is not the case. I personally prefer lighter bikes, but if they did the same for a 750 CC version more suitable for the occasional tourer, but with the sportiness, though not super sport, for everyday use then I think many would be interested in that. However Suzuki maybe looking at a twin for that market segment for the future. This would mean better fuel economy as well.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, appreciate the comment. Always ride like Yoda - "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." :-) Have look at Honda's NT1100.
@patrickbutler1959
@patrickbutler1959 2 жыл бұрын
Riding a z1000sx at the moment, waiting on a test drive to see how they compare
@mount27
@mount27 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful review, thank you
@chuckdyer
@chuckdyer 2 жыл бұрын
The limited miles per tank(150 miles) is a deal breaker for a sport touring bike
@ImLeuff
@ImLeuff 2 жыл бұрын
why is it so difficult to fill up ?
@h.d.h
@h.d.h 2 жыл бұрын
40 mpg *5 gal = 200 miles
@XRM473
@XRM473 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great, BUT, missing a centre stand? missing a rear remote preload adjuster? Fuel range?
@RickyLafleur10
@RickyLafleur10 2 жыл бұрын
See a lot of people complaining about no center stand not sure what the big deal is what makes a center stand so much better. I have never owned a bike with a center stand so no experience with them
@mikeharbon7821
@mikeharbon7821 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get the logic of developing a sports tourer to compete with the market leading Kawasaki and you hamstring it with such a poor range. On a run I easily get mid to high 40s mpg on my Z1000SX, have sometimes seen over 50mpg. The Suzuki looks good but I think it will struggle to dent the Kawasaki sales.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
We need to get the GT and SX back-to-back to check the tank ranges, but pretty sure the SX will be better. If it's 20 or 30 miles better, we'll have to see. But I agree - I really don't understand why tank range isn't top of the target list when you're designing a sports tourer. I'd be like no, go back and design it again until we get a genuine 200 miles from it - to reserve! But its not terrible - in the old days we'd do 120-140 miles on a tank from bikes like I dunno - the TDM850, 1990s VFR750 (mine does around 140 I think)...
@jockojockoson9995
@jockojockoson9995 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’re kidding yourself.
@XRM473
@XRM473 2 жыл бұрын
Honda, time to bring back the VFR800 with the VFR1200 engine and cruise control...
@rockyp3917
@rockyp3917 2 жыл бұрын
Very Stranger things like 80's music. I like it
@paulpannell6694
@paulpannell6694 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Honda ST1300, which I think they stopped making around 2010. This bike had everything one might want in a sports tourer...Smooth powerful motor, shaft drive, 300 mile range, center stand, nice panniers and electric windshield...Perhaps just a little on the heavy side.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Pan. Had a barking romp around the NC500 in Scotland on one. What you say is true. Heavy yes, but you can hustle it for sure.
@waimeaguyz9074
@waimeaguyz9074 Жыл бұрын
This bike reminds me of the 92 gsx 1100 g. You can never have too much hp.
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the riding position is tipped rather far forward for a "touring" bike. Lots more like a sport bike with a fairing, not a touring bike with the sport bike's powerplant. Certainly a big step towards touring, but not quite there.
@timothydubber549
@timothydubber549 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a sports tourer in the British definition, rather than the American. Canted forward position, slightly lower pegs, provision for luggage.
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothydubber549 I get that these aspects of the bike may fit a more British definition, but ride this bike all day vs the Tracer, and if you are over 30, not an athlete, and a tad overweight, you are definitely going to be more comfortable on the Tracer. Whether or not comfort makes the decision is another matter, for each buyer to decide.
@chr11sf
@chr11sf 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidc1961utube Definitely more comfortable siting bolt upright? Not for me and many others I speak with...not everyone is overweight with no core strength!.....Bike that sit bolt upright are way too uncomfortable for me, too much weight going through my ass, prefer a light lean. This Suzuki is too upright, their Hayabusa is about right with forward lean.
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 2 жыл бұрын
@@chr11sf Not lying on the tank is a bit different from "bolt upright", LOL. Like I said, we all have different riding positions we would describe as comfortable.
@fauramusic
@fauramusic 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet little song ya! Lonely!
@DaddyBiker_Reviews
@DaddyBiker_Reviews 2 жыл бұрын
All round, I have no doubt it is a terrific machine. I think though that it is let down by the fuel economy and the price. Granted the GSX-S1000F was not a true tourer, and there was never an option for hard luggage, BUT it was the same price as the naked, and therefore when you spent the money on luggage (albeit soft panniers and a tank bag), you still had a thrilling machine at an absolute bargain price. For roughly £1000 more the Tracer 9 GT gives SO much more: centre stand, heated grips, 6 axis IMU, electronic adjusting suspension, hard luggage, adjustable screen, adjustable ride height, anti slide, anti lift.... To add all these options or even just the important ones to make it a true tourer, you would be looking at significantly more than £1000, and the Tracer 9 GT delivers both performance and fuel economy to boot... granted, not 150bhp, but more than enough. I will make better judgement when I have chance to ride and review it, but as a big lover of the 1000F, once I have got over the "Phwoar!" impression of its looks and screen, I then feel a bit flat.
@jackmccourt6180
@jackmccourt6180 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, they made a GSX-S that doesn't resemble a scooter. Actually stands up to the z1000sx now! I'd still have the kawasaki though.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it compares to the Z1000sx that is going to be released in november if I remember correctly. Will you guys be doing a more detailed comparison between the two?
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the sensible and obvious next step. How about including the Tracer 9 GT and NT1100 too?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial That would be brilliant!
@Juuul89
@Juuul89 2 жыл бұрын
There's no 2022 refresh for the Ninja 1000SX, the 2022 are unchanged and already listed on Kawa's site.
@frankmalone8389
@frankmalone8389 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial yes, please...I'm considering Honda's NT1100.
@twistandgo3414
@twistandgo3414 2 жыл бұрын
What about a budget comparison option? Triumph Sprint GT 1050 SE!? - 117 litres of luggage space, touring screen gel, comfort seat, power sockets, heated grips, 130bhp all standard... Could do worse and probably save yourself upward of £6K...
@joedudz
@joedudz 2 жыл бұрын
Strange how bikes like this, the SX and Versys are constantly overlooked. Instead we get endless reviews of GS and Ducatis. Good review here.
@midlife-crysis
@midlife-crysis 10 ай бұрын
Just watching this and I see you went through Kincraig. Where the bad driver was.
@rickseconds7676
@rickseconds7676 2 жыл бұрын
I love my KTM SDGT, but this bike is very nice looking!
@laurentvallat9011
@laurentvallat9011 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 Sprint GT, love the bike but want modern items like TFT with integration, cruise control and lighter weight of course, she's a little portly... I was so excited about this bike until the "130 to 150 miles range!!! Why, Suzuki, why? Couldn't add an extra gallon? Although the SX has the same amount of fuel (19 litres) it gets more miles?? Not much more. So now I am realy in a bad spot. I can't stand the look of the new Tracer 900. I probably will be looking for a 2020 Tracer.
@hungrysurfer9471
@hungrysurfer9471 2 жыл бұрын
Hi laurent, check out the VFR 800. It has a big fuel tank and low fuel consumption. 21.5 litres with over 65 mpg and 150 mph +. I have had 300 miles out of tank sticking to the speed limit of 70mph. If you ride hard it still does over 250 miles per tank. Very comfortable and well balanced chassis. Is 107 hp and 55 lbs torque enough performance for you ? Try one, it may supprise you.
@jeffestrada6857
@jeffestrada6857 2 жыл бұрын
As a Suzuki lover ( and owner of the Gen II Busa & Katana ) its hard for me to criticise any of their great value for money machines. However this bike has a major flaw ..... as a potential pillion on this motorcycle the rear seat is atrocious!! The passenger is high up just like the normal sportbike position with a crappy little seat which after a short time will be very uncomfortable and all but the very smallest backsides would fit.....Pathetic!! As many touring riders take pillions, its such a HUGE oversight. My Hayabusa is more comfortable for the pillion. A big 👎👎👎👎 for me....
@neilahop
@neilahop 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I was sold up to the point where you said the range was 130-150 miles. That’s not acceptable for a sports TOURER.
@landedzentry
@landedzentry 2 жыл бұрын
97 Blackbird - 22 litre tank !
@scottbuchanan4345
@scottbuchanan4345 2 жыл бұрын
The V-Strom 1050XT, a pseudo off-road capable adventure bike, has cornering ABS & traction control, but the S1000GT, a pure road bike, doesn't?? Well, that's absolutely inexcusable and a total deal killer in my opinion. Suzuki should add that and a center stand to complete what is an otherwise excellent bike. And while they're at it they should put the S1000GT's TFT on the V-Strom in place of its Casio digital watch screen.
@Ducatijay72
@Ducatijay72 2 жыл бұрын
That petrol range is terrible for a sports tourer, are they getting us ready for ev range 🤔 I'm getting 200 out of my xr even with the cheeky vibes you hinted at 😃
@whiskywhippet
@whiskywhippet 2 жыл бұрын
An ideal sports tourer I’d say, although my wife’s Range Rover Evoque gives better mpg.
@madcockney
@madcockney 2 жыл бұрын
This always appears to be the case with bikes, unless they are very small.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@madcockney Euro 5 makes it worse. Basically, putting an extra cork in the exhaust and then re-tuning the motor to make almost equivalent power and torque means it needs to burn more fuel to do it. Hence fewer toxic emissions, but worse mpg and CO2...
@BuckyUSA
@BuckyUSA 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen any reviews show and go over the panniers at all lol.
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror 2 жыл бұрын
They almost made a superb ST.
@thihaboyz
@thihaboyz 2 жыл бұрын
i wish Suzuki make upright seating sport tourer bike like Versys 1000 with this legendary K 5 engine.
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA 2 жыл бұрын
What were the chances of it raining in Scotland for this review?
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
"I love summer in Scotland. It's my favourite day of the year"
@korazon3spinado
@korazon3spinado 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they make the 750 in a gt also?
@SanFranciscoRiderr
@SanFranciscoRiderr 2 жыл бұрын
excellent review i bought one
@markhypno7920
@markhypno7920 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you compare it to the GSXS 1000F? Its more of a comparison to the naked version you mentioned?
@Grahamvfr
@Grahamvfr 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh, a bike that's tempting me to trade in my vfr1200... Can I go back to chain 🤔🤔🤔
@ARBAN30
@ARBAN30 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the vfr mate ...im desperately looking for one ...great bike
@Grahamvfr
@Grahamvfr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARBAN30 haha, yes I can assure my vfr 1200 is a tremendous machine.I have a channel celebrating it.
@ARBAN30
@ARBAN30 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grahamvfr been watching them mate ..great videos...thanks
@Grahamvfr
@Grahamvfr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARBAN30 thanks.
@frederickstaana1269
@frederickstaana1269 2 жыл бұрын
time for a comparo vs kwaker, triump and tracer 900
@peterfallows6802
@peterfallows6802 2 жыл бұрын
Triump’ tigersport? 1160❔’
@danmac0
@danmac0 2 жыл бұрын
You look a little bit like Frank from Shameless ( US version)
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but William H Macy is sick and tired of being mistaken for me.
@ilikelampshades6
@ilikelampshades6 2 жыл бұрын
How do brands like Triumph, BMW etc charge so much for their retros when something like this is cheaper and more versatile?
@twotone3426
@twotone3426 Жыл бұрын
Weird about the no vib thing. I just picked one up and I'm feeling a lot vibration at 5000rpm in the pegs mainly but also the seat and grips. I'm breaking it in so I'm PRAYING this will go away!
@PhilG221
@PhilG221 2 жыл бұрын
The headlight looks very much like the Yamaha Tracer. I like the Suzuki better though as it’s shaped more like a sport tourer and less like an adventure bike wannabe.
@vanislerider7311
@vanislerider7311 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting hunched over like that will not go well when you put on some good miles.
@robt2kgmailcom
@robt2kgmailcom 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have an idea of what jacket that is? Did it work well for cold, damp weather? I'm looking for a more sporty, protective jacket than the usual ADV style ones that everyone suggests.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very old A* jacket - probably ten years old now. It's a summer textile jacket, and these days it's barely showerproof (so when we weren't shooting pics I'd throw an oversuit on). I was also cheating because I had a Keis heated jacket liner underneath :-) That's a good question actually - does anyone make a really good Gore-Tex sports jacket?
@techo61
@techo61 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me why its acceptable to exclude a centre stand on a touring bike? At the very least it should be a low cost option (fitted for but not with). Do not justify this with the complexity of redesigning the exhaust system to fit around it, this is simply laziness (like not having an adjustable screen). The slipper/assist clutch was clearly a value add benefit, as were many other features. Come on Suzuki, you were so close with this one.
@sufeeb
@sufeeb 2 жыл бұрын
Great value, but I’ll stick with my Multistrada 1260 for a while yet…does everything a sports tourer needs to do.
@landedzentry
@landedzentry 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like it lost a headlight - apparently its to not be confused with a distant twin headlight car.is that really a thing? I hear the quickshifter is the very gery best.
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 2 жыл бұрын
Center stands are unnecessary for modern chain drives(handy for packing though). Moving wind screens add weight and break constantly. Add these features and the Stat nerds will be up set, because the motocycle is 2 pounds heavier than someone else bike.
@Mr_Wallace97
@Mr_Wallace97 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 SV650 and I'd love a center stand for chain maintenance, why do say unnecessary?
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Wallace97 modern x ring style chain contain ALL lubrication inside. Anything you apply outside is flag off in a few feet. Clean is clean so I understand that chore.
@tomnorris1734
@tomnorris1734 2 жыл бұрын
A few years back when I was getting back into motorbikes things like this could well have made me buy sports tourers however I have since been spoilt by the comfort, heated grips and hand guards of adv bikes. I'm afraid to say I now see no reason for this sector. Im still glad it does and seems to be coming back but I think I've missed the boat on this whole sector now I'm afraid.
@hanscaspersz4900
@hanscaspersz4900 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the passenger accommodation like and why no top box?
@gavfr
@gavfr 2 жыл бұрын
Why do these road tests show miles and miles of riding from a helmet camera but no pictures or videos of the luggage interior, panniers being removed and refitted, underseat storage, and tool kit, and ease of maintenance, all the practical stuff as a tourer I want to know about.
@korazon3spinado
@korazon3spinado 8 ай бұрын
I know you rode the gsxs750 and the z900. Is this bike comparable to those two bikes?
@TheWanderingGeezer
@TheWanderingGeezer 2 жыл бұрын
I would consider this bike if it had more range.
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