New Xbox Hardware: High Prices, Low Excitement Level

► Watch the FULL show: • DF Direct Special: Xbo...
► Support us on Patreon! bit.ly/3jEGjvx
► Digital Foundry KZbin: / digitalfoundry
► Digital Foundry Merch: store.digitalfoundry.net
► Digital Foundry at Eurogamer: eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry
► Follow on Twitter: / digitalfoundry

[@DP12321]

"599 US DOLLARS" takes me back to Sony in 2006. Except here it's not cutting edge tech, it's dated 4 year old technology. What a joke.

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

There’s a difference, inflation and the costs not going down but yes I do see what you’re trying to say.

[@RAV3NxGUARD]

Funny you say this, in my feed guess what’s underneath this video? 😂

[@Matt-jc2ml]

The PS5 can buy a beer now, ever hear of inflation?

[@AlexRocks80s80s]

@@Matt-jc2mlwhat inflation both companies are worth a zillion dollars

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

@@AlexRocks80s80s And they both want to make another zillion dollars lol.

[@bisquiteentrisket3518]

I had been waiting all generation for a Series X refresh but when I saw these new updates I was so unimpressed I immediately bought an original Series X for $399.

[@Nezben]

Why were you waiting?!

[@fwabble]

You got ripped off. That' shits worth £299 MAX in 2024.

[@NathansNostalgia]

Why were you waiting?

[@tedunseth3966]

@@fwabble The XSX hasn't been tapped at all. I wonder if MS is holding back on the internal upgrades after Sony announces the Pro. They should toss in a faster SSD for load times only. Expect faster wifi, better heatsink and other minor improvements. It seems the Pro is not that much more powerful than the X after looking at the leaked specs. It's actually 16TF splitted up. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. Faster ram but same amount as the X. Basically identical CPU's. It does seem the showcase was finally showing what the X was meant to do.

[@dusermiginte4647]

​@@tedunseth3966new gen Xbox rumored to release in 2026 anyway.

[@stabinghobo57]

I miss the old Xbox leadership with Peter More and J Arnold. OG Xbox & Early X360 had such an amazing library of games.

[@Skullet]

J Allard, but yeah I agree. I loved the OG Xbox and 360, but everything after that has been 50 shades of disappointment.

[@yetanotheruser1989]

It's only now I can look back and see just how good the 360, and the management around it was and still is

[@justthegoodstuff4670]

The problem with xbox is branding A mom would go to a store and says i want a ps5 But if she wants to buy xbox it's confusing for her Series x /s one x/s and these new variants

[@lordxboss5700]

Ya if she wants a PS5 her only options are Digital, Standard, Digital Slim, Slim with disc drive or with option to buy disc drive separately later and soon PS5 Pro digital and PS5 Pro Disc 🤪 then Start shopping around for SSD Options 🤯

[@lectorintellegat]

@@lordxboss5700digital and standard difference is intuitive - so is slim or not. Not to mention that those are self described difference. the x/s is a qualitative difference, and the branding is not intuitive.

[@markedone494]

@@lectorintellegat Buddy you dont even need to know which is x and which is s, people will ask for either the more affordable one or the more powerful one, but the thing is, no one is looking for xbox either way.

[@CAP-yi8wt]

@@lectorintellegatnot really. Unless they specifically ask what the difference is the only immediately visible thing is the box color. I know of people who got one or the other and didn’t even notice it until someone else pointed it out.

[@TimDespairBear11]

Yeah a lot of parents are clueless. During Black Friday I saw a woman at target trying to buy Mario kart 8 for the Xbox. I’m not even kidding.

[@TimDespairBear11]

Imo these options are pointless. A “digital series X” is barely cheaper, and $600 for a 2tb series x is kinda crazy. Won’t the PS5 pro be around $600? So what’s the point?

[@AthleticHobo-br4qh]

Because of the cost of the ps5 pro chip, faster ram and increased cooling, to keep costs down it'll probably be equipped with a 1tb ssd. So at least the xsx 2tb model has that...!

[@TimDespairBear11]

@@AthleticHobo-br4qh I guess but I’d rather have a 1tb ps5 pro over a 2tb series x if both are 600. You can upgrade the storage later anyway.

[@JaimeIsJaime]

@@TimDespairBear11 absolutely. And not to mention upgrading storage on PS5 is very inexpensive

[@kyledodson2992]

I’m still questioning why a PS5 pro would need to exist at this point. Maybe after GTA6?

[@TimDespairBear11]

@@kyledodson2992 I think sony wants to push better ray tracing, as right now it pretty much tanks the resolution or framerate. I’m just sticking to the old PS5 because I already have one.

[@Jabid21]

Simple cost cutting tactic. With SSD NAND chips at low prices, taking out the disc drive while keeping the chassis and internal components basically the same would save tons and have gamers locked into digital licenses and game pass. Microsoft wanted to do this with Xbox One originally before they had to backpedal on that.

[@Bakedea87]

Exactly some people are saying why make it the same size of the x but they're not considering the new money invested in making new console designs and molds. When you can use the same mold as the x and the fact they try to have set model and design for each one

[@colaboytje]

That would make sense if they were actually selling consoles at a higher rate. That is not the case. Sales are dropping every year, while Sony is gaining sales. MS only has a 33% market share. These additions will not increase sales as the pricing is too high. So now they have to produce more models and hope that people will buy them. If people don't, then they are losing money.

[@Jabid21]

@@colaboytje My opinion on that is Microsoft is not concerned about hardware sales anymore. What they care about is getting their games to as many customers as possible, regardless of the platform and gain Game Pass subscribers. Sony is aiming for the same. Console hardware has never been profitable anyone other than Nintendo as Nintendo has lower hardware cost per unit than the other two and has strong first-party titles and IP to back it up. I'm predicting that Sony and Microsoft will start leveraging its Plus and Game Pass subscription as a means to get any games published on their platform to be playable on day one of release and make non-subscribers wait to play. Once consoles go all-digital, gamers won't be left with a choice of any alternatives; Sony/Microsoft can make people subscribe and then force gamers to "buy" the game by removing the said game from their subscription plan and require a 'purchase' of the digital license to keep playing the game until they revoke the license since people won't 'own' their games anymore.

[@DP12321]

@@colaboytje Exactly. It's dire for Xbox. They were being outsold 2:1 by PS5 and that's since jumped to 5:1 which is insanely bad.

[@jukkapiispanen123]

I don't see what is the point of these new models.Regular SX is often on sale for 450eur/usd

[@2greenify]

Much more storage. Personally I havent needed it yet, but would consider this when buying a new one.

[@SquadHunta117]

Options

[@wizzenberry]

​@@2greenifyon ps5 we have a thing called cheap expandable storage 😂😂 and its twice as fast, and no "" "" "bespoke" "" "" " fixtures 😂😂😂

[@Grayson950815]

If you consider how much those expansion cards are. It is cheaper to get the 2Tb X from the jump

[@jonathanto99]

​​@@2greenifythe 2TB Series X is a limited edition like the Halo version, so you won't be able to buy it forever. It's also $600 for a 4 year console when a regular X can be bought for $400.

[@proggz39]

No one’s buying our console. I know, let’s make it more expensive

[@horrorfan6710]

Come on dude, tons of people have Xboxes.

[@anthonyayre2910]

Xbox is selling

[@Whit3WolfXArcadia]

If only they added an nvme slot and a type c port 😮 instead of those crappy expensive proprietary storage cards they removed the disc drive but they don't add qol changes to the hardware

[@justinreschke3642]

I never understood the strategy of going all digital but selling consoles with such limited storage and charging an arm and a leg for additional storage.

[@Thief000]

Yeah, the vastly overpriced semi-proprietary storage cards are basically why I don't own a Series console. I won't have any of that!

[@mikeuk666]

​@@justinreschke3642 I only play via gamepass with half the storage & never have issues

[@jefferytillis8309]

Gotta follow the Apple model. Apple has been doing this for decades. Make any upgradeable accessories proprietary so that you can have full control of sales and profit on the items.

[@Revan_7even]

You'd think Sony would be the one with the proprietary drive.

[@tonymcnamee2741]

I would love a Series X in white with a disc drive and 2 or 3 tb. It seems odd to have a disc edition with more HDD space than the digital options.

[@williamphillips2671]

The all digital has more space though

[@Youraveragegamer_97]

Personally I think the digital series x looks lazy, with the internal space it already had, and with no disk drive they coulda shaved upto 2 inches off the side, making it able to fit horizontally in most entertainment stands

[@G360LIVE]

But then it wouldn't look like the mini-fridge anymore.

[@Youraveragegamer_97]

@@G360LIVE right?🤣imo the series x is the ugliest xbox design to exist, especially when your upgrading from the xbox one x

[@applehazeva2739]

I wish they at least could have given the One S to One X treatment where the One X is basically the same formfactor as the One S. The Digital Series X could have been pushed more to an Series S Format (at the same time, everyone will confuse those both due to the black Series S)

[@overwatch761]

​@@Youraveragegamer_97 nah its easily the best Xbox design to date.

[@Youraveragegamer_97]

​@@applehazeva2739 really? I always thought the one x was distinctive then the one s due to its airflow direction change and the one x having a bigger overhang in the front and side

[@VaultBoy69]

The excitement is low especially when you open up to a multiplatform strategy

[@ogre706]

Exactly. They're fine pieces of hardware on their own, but how excited are we supposed to be when the messaging amounts to "Here are some more Xbox hardware variants you can buy, or you can just play our games on your PS5 and PC!"

[@Docwiz2]

SONY IS DOING IT AS WELL. BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I AM NOT SURE VIDEO GAMES ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@ogre706 so you would rather be given less choice and for it to be shiny all thanks to illusionary software exclusivity? MS is doing us a favor, and we should reward them by buying their products, not complain how they are not as bad as the rest!

[@VaultBoy69]

@@Docwiz2 putting games to PC is not the same as putting them into a rival console. PC is NOT a console.

[@TheDarkSoulsOfYouTubeComments]

​@@VaultBoy69and I'm still waiting for Bloodborne, Demon Souls, The Last Guardian and Spider-Man 2, if I wanted to play literally any Xbox game of the last 2 generations I could literally do it on my PC right now 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@CouchCoach]

And the external ssd is still more than twice as expensive as a ssd for ps5.

[@scosee2u]

I love that my series x stays quiet under heavy load. It's incredible.

[@BBWahoo]

I moan when I get heavy loads

[@QuantumChrist]

​@@BBWahoo, I'm virgin 😭

[@BBWahoo]

@@QuantumChrist Good, wait for that special someone.

[@scosee2u]

@@BBWahoo zuzz

[@illestcatnnebraska7331]

No games, easy to stay quiet

[@LoneWolfRPS]

I think the 2tb Series X looks nice but if you already have one, it's not necessary.

[@mikeuk666]

Same as when the Nintendo Switch brought out the oled version... folks who mostly play docked won't buy it but it's another option

[@LoneWolfRPS]

@mikeuk666 yeah if I you don't have the X then 2tb is a good option. Same with Switch Oled

[@ShanGamer1981]

I got a series x already , lemme know when the xbox handheld comes out

[@SweeploRoblo]

2:57 Just straight up lies from Microsoft. Most of the time the physical version is cheaper, often significantly so.

[@G360LIVE]

They're only referring to the retail price at launch, and at launch, digital is the same price as physical, so it's just as affordable. I'm not defending this, by the way; I'm just telling you how their lawyer would spin it if you tried to sue them.

[@2greenify]

Not one of my friends buy physical games anymore. Most buy games in cheaper regions, activate using VPN and play normally in their own region. Elden ring for example was 16 bucks when launched this way. Much cheaper than physical, even when you can sell it for a good price.

[@JohnSmith-bt4lf]

This is highly dependent on location. In the US, it is usually cheaper at launch to go digital simply by pretending to be in Oregon to avoid sales tax, which you'd have to pay on physical copies.

[@reyjimenz]

Bullshit

[@SweeploRoblo]

You're not wrong, the "official" retail price will be the same, but many shops/sites will still sell the physical copy for cheaper prices, at least compared to buying directly from Microsoft or Sony's stores anyway. That doesn't even take into account used copies. I couldn't begin to list the number of digital games that still go for stupid prices but can be picked up for little to nothing on the used market.

[@F0n53ca]

It blows my mind on why a digital version of a 4 yo console doesn't have 2TB, you know, to be real competition to their rival ps5, is a 1 tb of memory so expensive to add to the board?

[@rometherevenant8749]

I want the galaxy black model. Looks nice to me.

[@miserj]

Every time they say “trash can” I think 2013 Mac Pro not the Xbox…

[@TJ-vh2ps]

I suspect that is one reason Microsoft didn’t go with that design: neither is a good association. 😂

[@fabioalvesshow]

Xbox is the next Sega

[@balaam_7087]

Sega had (still has) memorable games though…

[@martinflores7354]

With publishing power 😆

[@stabinghobo57]

SEGA Dreamcast is still live.

[@deathtrooper2048]

​@@balaam_7087Sega has been making mediocre at best games when they don't nostaglia bait.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Lol, uhm no.. Actually thats playstation...

[@AliAbidalkareem]

They said in the game showcase they are working on the next gen hardware. A handheld is probably in the works too so their hardware business isn’t going anywhere.

[@jasonseals9198]

There's two white one's without a disk drive but there's only one black one with a disk drive, something is missing... Maybe a handheld with a disk drive? Could they do that?

[@TheKing8608_]

Dude the regular series X is black and the Carbon Series S that came out last September smh

[@jasonseals9198]

@@TheKing8608_ yes but they are discontinuing the black series s, could they release a black handheld in its place?

[@FreeAimDog]

i normally play games with my hands on the controller and keep my foot on the keyboard so i can hold down space bar with my toe and fast forward through in video ads. it came in handy alot with all the in video vpn ads and shaving ads.

[@kieran.grant_]

The original digital PS5 was actually a flat $400, so $50 less than this Xbox

[@deltaforce01]

The PS5 Pro will be priced the same as the Series X 2TB model, you heard it first from me.

[@themblan]

Where’s the Sebile controller?

[@TheMa5cmpb]

I don’t think it’s coming out. It’ll be dumb to realize a new controller in the middle of a generation.

[@IcyPolarBear369]

Now just make a Xbox Series S with a disc drive.

[@lasthopelost9090]

Even though that would make sense at this point the problem is it would fall in with the 1tb model at the same price with less memory doesn’t make sense

[@TheDunbartxeen]

oh it does male sense. perfect for backwards compatibility games. would insta buy one

[@JustinTheGreat]

@@TheDunbartxeen There were rumors a disc drive add on was coming. And it ain't here!

[@rinkumultani6515]

i dont get it why remove the disk drive when we can download digital games anyway or disk based ps5 or series x. disk drive is good cos sometimes u can find much more cheep games on retail shops compare to ps stores or Microsoft store

[@sumomaster5585]

That’s the point! More gamers will buy via their store hence they make more money

[@rinkumultani6515]

@@sumomaster5585 if that was the point then they should not release disk base system at all

[@sumomaster5585]

@@rinkumultani6515 you can't do that whilst ps still does, bad pr and marketing

[@Skullet]

You answered your own question. Removing the disk drive also removes the ability for consumers to buy games cheaper at retail stores, now you're forced to pay Microsoft full price. Last gen they tried to stop gamers from lending games to friends or buying games 2nd hand, if they'd gotten away with it and Xbox One had sold well then there would be no disk based Xbox consoles this generation.

[@rinkumultani6515]

@@Skullet how did i answered my own question? and i did not ask any question in the first place. i just stated the facts that there is no point in release all digital when they are releasing disk at the same time. they are just robbing the people by removing disk but selling at higher price the same system. in the end all that go for all digital will lose more money in the long run

[@SD666-h7t]

新主机什么时候上市

[@k2000kidd1]

Went for a Series X at launch but needed a VERY specific Tv to unlock all the boxes, couldnt do 120hz or DolbyVision til i spent another 1200 on a decent TV

[@jurassictyrantkingYT]

At least the older Xbox series X is making sales in Central Texas again. Ever since the announcement of the new consoles the SERIES X has been sold out in my area.

[@thug-21]

The og digital edition was $399. The newer version because of the dye change is $50 more. I'm sure sony will figure out a way to get it back down to $399.

[@georgeberthiaume4496]

1 tb storage for xbox in Canada is 230 plus tax so don't see an issue with price

[@xxnike0629xx]

This is a missed opportunity. Xbox should've done more other than offering more storage. What they could've done is updated the form factor to have an optional disc drive the PS5 Slim instead of adding 3 more Xbox Series SKUs. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a small APU and/or an updated disc drive.

[@unjustkatana]

I don't think it is woth discussing, It's just one more option. Don't worry about the prices they will get adjusted with little bit of time, end of discussion.

[@T0nyGTSt]

one of the biggest takeaways i had is that they persist in using proprietary storage upgrades,,,, it says Microsoft still doesnt 'get it' and they gotta double down... if they just went the same as ps5 i'd be more attractive a buy but if they keep doing this, i'm never buying an xbox

[@leoni7649]

Low excitement level is the most Xbox thing that can be. No surprise here

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

Ah yes because latest playstation showcase has been full of excitement... 😏

[@leoni7649]

@@nicolapellegrino1072 As if the fact that the PlayStation showcases have been bad automatically makes Xbox exciting.

[@Shirou8492]

@@nicolapellegrino1072Xbox has had the best showcases for 3 years, the platform is still in the worst place it’s ever been.

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

@leoni7649 you have to show something to make excitement 😁 people don't always like to use imagination. 😉

[@leoni7649]

@@nicolapellegrino1072 yes you have to show something, but that alone is not enough. Xbox have been showing a lot of games, but when people get to play them, they are really disappointing. Starfield, Redfall, Halo infinite, and more. All of them way inferior than xbox fans deserved

[@michiganjack1337]

Didn't the series S already come in white?

[@GhoulSolo___]

Yea

[@IMDLEGEND]

Yes but that was the 512GB edition. This new one is 1TB, which is the same size as the carbon black series S.

[@moosevelt9148]

2:00 where are ppl finding $399 xbox series x? or did he mean used?

[@DeesBees85]

It was on sale for $399 very recently in the U.S. also, in Europe where Xbox sells even worse I get their sales are even more extreme.

[@ashleyhorton1042]

At least the ps5 pro has more power this is just lame

[@maurocapitano]

If a PS5 pro ever exists it will be useless and expensive. The consoles were born to make an entire generation 5-6 years. We need games, not mid consoles

[@tedunseth3966]

It's not a lot more powerful. CPU is basically the same as the X but they did make the ram faster. It's really a 16TF console. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. The good news is it could bring out the best in the XSX that has been held back all gen. These Xbox consoles were dummy units. Maybe they upgraded the internals to be announced when Sony announces the PRO. I think there is more to this $600 Special Edition outside of just storage. They could always toss in a faster 7000 mb/s SSD inside. It would only be used for load times only, but could entice some to upgrade. Who knows

[@MikeZablo]

This is for me .. I’ve sold my xsx.. got xss till xsx all digital will release because most of my Xbox games are digital.. I’m tired of swapping discs.. but I love physical games- still collecting for ps3, ps4, ps5, ps vita & switch.. 1/3 on those platforms I have digital games So just Xbox & Steam deck all digital for me

[@luiscantu4968]

I think the Xbox team expects a surge in console sales after the showcase. These new Xbox options although additive to current consoles, opens the options to new customers

[@xmiguel99]

They should have launched the Series X digital at the beginning of the generation with the disc drive Series X instead of the Series S. Sony did it with the PS5 digital and it worked for them. The Xbox Series S was a mistake.

[@Luke973T]

Same thing I said when it was confirmed that the series s was legit. I knew that it wouldn't make the impact that they were looking for.

[@williamphillips2671]

You’re both wrong

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

The series-s is the best-selling xbox console, so that console hasn't been a mistake.

[@Luke973T]

@nicolapellegrino1072 still selling poorly for the price

[@onlywiigame.]

@@nicolapellegrino1072because it was the only console available during the first couple years of the generation and they still got blown out badly by PlayStation

[@LilFaceVEVO]

Waste of money 😂

[@AxelAlexK]

Still have not upgraded my VCR xbox one. If they have Series X's with disc drive for 350 bucks this holiday I think I'm going to finally buy one.

[@nonnygb]

They should have just gotten Seagate/WD to lower the price of the external SSD and released a few more options for those console wraps like the one the brought out for Starfield.

[@HablaConOwens]

New digital series x at 449 gives me hope that the next console generation will get 20 or more ram for 500.

[@peteparker22]

Why buy these when you can save for the superior Ps5 pro?

[@sumomaster5585]

if you want graphics, why are you playing on consoles??! they are for connivence not graphics

[@dusermiginte4647]

Why buy the rumored ps5 pro in 2025 when you can buy the next gen Xbox in 2026?

[@Shinjiduo]

@@sumomaster5585 You can enjoy a boost in graphics even on a console? Then you have have convenience with better graphics and performance! 👍 Do not worry about what other people do with their money.

[@carlosoto1115]

$600 dollars 💸 yea no way i rather spend it on the PS5 PRO

[@maurocapitano]

Don't waste your money on useless Pro models. Consoles must exist with only one model to last 5-6 years

[@shayanali8771]

​@@maurocapitanothe PS5 pro will launch anyway.

[@maurocapitano]

@@shayanali8771 and it will be a useless and expensive launch. they need to release games, not useless mid-gen games

[@deathtrooper2048]

​@@shayanali8771Says who?

[@lovmn38]

I have the Xbox series S and PlayStation five digital slim free spider man 2 for sale at $400 at Best Buy couple of months ago and still got Nintendo Switch lite

[@parker73724]

This is exactly like the one at all digital where everyone couldn't understand why they would pay more for a console without discs.

[@woofaki5550]

I will tell you right now that the "regular model" will be extremely hard to be found,not many will be made....and will stealthily be phased for sure.

[@ChesterMeadows]

Already have an s, ps5 and switch so not buying an x although would be nice. I'll save another 500 for the nextgen from here thx. At least we know now that xbox does actually have a future. Great showcase👏 it only took you 17 years😂

[@AdamsKi8181]

I wish they show a handheld very soon.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Maybe at the Xbox Showcase at Gamescon this august? :)

[@wiseman4953]

All people want if you want big sales is a slim from all parties with a disc drive considerably cheaper. Both PS and MS showed hands and it is not happening. Sales quantity wont be anywhere near Switch or PS2 cause pricing out mass consumers.

[@DoomyRei]

Waste of time and money to force people to be digital and give up there rights to resell a d for discounts

[@mrfilcritic]

With gamepass existing on PC and all Xbox games being on PC, I struggle to justify buying an Xbox. Considered picking one up only for backwards compatibility with many Xbox 360 discs so I might get one before there are no more Disc Xbox consoles. Might get a used one x on ebay.

[@mikeuk666]

Because a decent pc is x3 the cost

[@CyberClu]

The only reason I'd be interested in getting a series X is because some games still run better on console than PC, because the developer will probably never truly optimize the game on PC (Jedi Survivor).

[@shayanali8771]

You first said that game pass existed on PC, so I assume you already have a PC? Why would you buy a console to play older games when your PC can do that? 😂.

[@accountteam9859]

​@@mikeuk666Wrong, you can get an RX 6700 and a Ryzen 5 5500 both for $450 and then the rest of the computer parts for a total of ~$700.

[@accountteam9859]

​@@CyberCluStar Wars: Jedi Survivor has constant frame drops to 55 FPS, stutters, and even after the newest patch it still has a bit of Screen-Tearing on non-VRR screens and a render resolution of 936p - 1008p. How is that a good example of "optimization"? Pick another game, that one is messed up on all platforms.

[@billclay2701]

Series S should be $199. THe new X with 2tb should be $399. Pick up the pace. There's hardly a reason to buy and xbox anyway if you have a switch, ps5 n PC. But I'd seriously consider a $199 series S just to have one.

[@balaam_7087]

^this.

[@IMDLEGEND]

I agree. $199 series S would have an impact. That is almost impulse level purchase.

[@sumomaster5585]

would be great, but there's a limit to how much losses they can likely take. There's hardly a reason to own a ps5 as well, so why do you have one?

[@billclay2701]

@@sumomaster5585 I got it to catch up on ps3 and ps4 titles, I skipped those after the incredible ps2. Went to the 360 then to PC. PS5 is a great place to play older sony only titles. In fact its a real PS4 pro. Current gen is a wash for the xbox and PS. We will get good games in the last throws of these boxes.

[@billclay2701]

@@sumomaster5585 We really don't know what 'losses' any of these companies really take. KZbin content creators have the 'expert' tag going along with them but they aren't upper management of any of thee companies.

[@AJJJ-co2vd]

We wanted an Xbox pro for quality and performance. We got Xbox w storage and all digital so we always pay $69.99 what a bargain

[@AvengingOttsel]

Are they doing away with the $500 series X with a disc drive?

[@Astro-ct5qn]

Yes they will eventually faze it out and replace it with the 2tb series x

[@olijackson3870]

I happened to skip the Xbox showcase just because I was working. I follow game news pretty closely but had to look for a bit after I got home from work to discover that there was new Xbox hardware. No buzz

[@danielibanez9475]

I thought the trash can model was gone but looks like they just made white and square 😆

[@lactobacillusprime]

The white will be yellow eventually…. Sooner than you thing.

[@pwd1134]

Yes. ALL white plastic yellows over time. What's your point?

[@Roboto82]

If you smoke

[@marklarz4399]

Disappointed we don't get the digital Xbox Series O from the leaks

[@oblivieon1567]

I think the consoles are fine, they're just offering options but don't particularly care if you buy one. They really have put a lot of effort into PC Game Pass. It started with 100 or so games, it's now up over 450 which is wild! The biggest problem with MS is they always have and seemingly always will do a terrible job at communicating features.

[@TheMa5cmpb]

I think Sony has the better option. You can buy the digital version to save money then buy the disk drive later if you need that.

[@IMDLEGEND]

I was more excited by the leaked docs. It appeared they were going to give you 2TB all digital for $500. That was more appealing to me. The real story is that if you want to go physical on Xbox you now have to spend $600. Also it would have been nice if Xbox copied the PlayStation route and offered the ability to buy the disc drive separately also.

[@PaulOniel534]

I knew the trash can was a decoy

[@m1tch506]

I dont see the point in an all digital series x, as ive seen the regular series x for under 400. And i dont get what is meant by the trash can

[@paulkinder8440]

They are referring to the cylindrical shape of what the all digital console was supposed to look like.

[@m1tch506]

@@paulkinder8440 oh ok I know what you mean

[@vickybengali]

This xbox console will sell like hot cakes.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Nice profile pic. There are to many to choose from these day though. 💪💚👍

[@HunteronaBudget]

To be honest, these "new" models works with the rumors for an actual new console coming out in 2026. Why would Microsoft spend money on redesigning the Series models when a newer model is on its way

[@revelator3665]

Microsoft must to unlock internal SSD replace for series consoles

[@waynerice4918]

Wait until Christmas time it will be on sale. Because last Christmas Xbox series X was on sale for 349.00. I bought the Xbox series X for 349.00 with disc drive.

[@markerichannelly]

These consoles are 4 years old. Still asking for MSRP is a joke. Series X White should have a disc drive and cost 399, the S should be 150. MS know they'll make money from Gamepass.

[@arctic_gaming-6187]

499, 399, 299 Microsoft!

[@daysgone2997]

3 more consoles, same games, why would anyone pay $600 for a new xbox? maybe cos its 2tb and cod is 300gb

[@lordxboss5700]

Could be worse 🤷🏻‍♂️ pay $500 for a PS5 with No games and then buy COD for $70 🤪 COD BO6 isn't 300GB that's just the usual Xbox Tax in effect

[@2greenify]

​Getting old to start over everything a console war. Ts asked a good question.l I think the price difference and storage kinda match. @@lordxboss5700

[@daysgone2997]

@@lordxboss5700 like i ask all xbox losers do a list of xbox games ghis generation and a list of PlayStation games , this usually shuts you clowns up 🤡

[@ASx2608]

@@lordxboss5700you know you’re paying BO6 with that gamepass you pay monthly. It is confirmed that it’s 300GB on the microsoft store on xbox. Also why are you shilling for a company? stop it.

[@Cloudiroth123]

@@ASx2608I agree, the only streaming service I have is Prime but that’s because it comes with the shipping. I don’t really use it. I think Gamepass is just like most subscription services getting us more and more comfortable with owning nothing. I’d rather have the license on the disc than connected to an account for my favorite games. Same goes for movies. If we go into an all subscription or digital only future I’m content with what I own.

[@fwabble]

£599 - it's worth £349...

[@strider6425]

With PS5 Pro just around the corner people would be more excited for a price cut than getting more of the same. At least were getting some amazing looking games though

[@killerpwned89]

You guys should think about doing tear downs of consoles and discussing what you find interesting.

[@balaam_7087]

They already do that.

[@KaiSchSp]

Xbox should finally update their controller to include gyro aiming. Xbox is such a big first person shooter machine at this point. Playing Doom, Halo and CoD with proper gyro aim on a console? Yes please! I'd actually use my xbox again if they added that.

[@khalidhashmi9772]

Wait, what? Gyrocontrols? The thing everyone hated during the early ps3 days so that the controller got replaced with a proper dualshock pretty quickly?

[@Moskeeto]

@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro controls are the closest way to get the precision of mouse aiming on a controller. It's how I play every shooter on my PC now since it allows me to play with a comfortable controller in hand while also being able to play without the built-in cheats (aim assist).

[@KaiSchSp]

@@khalidhashmi9772 I don't really know what you mean, but gyro aim these days is as precise as playing with mouse and keyboard.

[@khalidhashmi9772]

@@KaiSchSpIf I hear gyro I'm thinking Lair on PS3😅

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

​@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro has a substantial user base on PC through steam. It's good for first person shooters.

[@toastyburger]

But do they make toast?

[@oscarcastro9316]

Man I'm considering getting the white X

[@disco4178]

Of course they're the same. It saves money. Smart. Rumors are probably true that they come out with the next gen before Playstation.

[@riflebeard]

Thinking of totally missing this gen. I’ll wait and see what next gen brings. I’ll stick with my PC in the meantime.

[@aaralynhall]

A 1tb expansion card is over $100 so yeah $599 kind of makes sense for the 2tb series x. I’ll probably get one since I need a 2nd one anyways for the family. Y’all paid $1k+ to scalpers for ps5’s at release 😂

[@gothpunkboy89]

So MS is shafting customers. Because just looking at retail prices on amazon the difference between a 1TB and 2 TB nvme Gen 3 SSD is only 50 bucks.

[@VampireNoblesse]

I have Xbox OG, 360 & Co games on disk.., an all digital Xbox console is out of the question for me!

[@bobbobbins4877]

Noticed the haptic controller that was leaked seems to have been canned. Which is disappointing since it was the only part of those leaks that actually excited me.

[@TheMa5cmpb]

It doesn’t make sense to release a controller in the middle of a generation

[@Cal2337]

I'm a ps guy and I just got a regular used series x in great condition for $250 lol

[@MadBrit26]

The marketing team at Microsoft is utter crap- starting with the naming convention confusion. Xbox 360. Xbox one, Xbox One x, Series S, Series X !!! The next Xbox needs to be a single version and call it Xbox 6 job done!

[@sumomaster5585]

or just use iphone scheme, xbox and xbox pro

[@MarkMcDaniel]

This isn't "New" hardware in the way it matters. What people are wondering is if XBox has a next generation of hardware in the works. What is a half generation "pro" model isn't "new" hardware in the way it matters.

[@alejandroz1606]

3:20 I honestly like the all digital media, I don't understand the big deal with this, we've been using this format of sales for years now with steam and nobody is talking about that, you cant find game discs for PC, even PCs nowadays don't have disc drive XD. Its just a stupid battle. I just wish the all digital series X had the same price here in EU that in US, the PS5 digital is 400euros right now and the SX is 550, hell no, I guess I'll have to wait to the end of the year for a series X (450) o buy a PS5.

[@rogeliolazaro1498]

I was waiting for a digital series x, that's why I started with the series s first😅

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

If they remove the disc altogether then there’s not point of having an Xbox in future. PC can do everything that Xbox can do. Same titles, upgradable spec, multi functionality at a just slightly higher cost.

[@AlexRocks80s80s]

What has Xbox done to warrant these ridiculous prices?

[@JGAbstract]

I've owned every Xbox generation since original. I haven't gotten this gen. When I saw this thumbnail I thought oh cool maybe I'll get one, expecting cheaper price with better refresh update. Looks like I won't get one.

[@mrtuber3491]

All digital series X could have had 4TB internal SSD and then that would make some sense. Pricing the 2TB SSD series X at £599 doesn’t make sense either when you could by a regular series X for around £399 and add external SSD 1TB for around £150 Strategy and pricing is all over the place. Unless the original series X is phased out and then there’s some sense

[@balaam_7087]

You’re thinking of potential benefits for you, the consumer. Thats why it doesn’t make sense. Try thinking in terms of making more money for Microsoft and everything will become clear

[@Astro-ct5qn]

They are going to faze the og series x out

[@philharrison2991]

Instead of Microsoft showing us the Sebile Controller, they showed these.

[@Lucromis]

The names and then different processing power and storage are confusing to the casual console crowd. Consoles are a shrinking market and they need to get marketing clear for the main audience imo. I know several people who have played on consoles and say “I’ll just get a pc” instead of buying this generation.

[@tedunseth3966]

These were dummy units that were showed. I think MS is waiting to discuss the internals of the Special Edition when Sony announces the Pro. I think we could see some upgrades. Better heatsink, faster wifi, and maybe they upgraded the SSD for faster load times only. I could see MS tossing in a 7000 mb/s SSD. It would be a nice feature for just load times. I don't think they would call it a "Special Edition" unless they did something more than just 2tb of storage you would think. After seeing the rumored specs of the PS5 Pro it seems that the XSX will hold up just fine. The PS5 Pro is really 16TF but splitted up. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. I think Sony will sell a 1tb PS5 Pro for $600. The CPU is basically the same as the XSX. The16gb of GDDR6 is upgraded. It's obvious that after the Showcase that the XSX is finally being utilized. I think we could really see some incredible graphics if the focus was the Pro and X.

[@maurocapitano]

The Pro does not exist at the moment and I hope it will never be released. useless mid-gen updates