When will Britain feel the benefit of a Labour government? | Andrew Marr | The New Statesman

[@alejandro_mery]

I wonder how much is neoliberalism to blame for the social decline and spiking inequality of the last decades on developed countries

[@EarlofSalop]

The selling out of the working class in developed nations by executives in the search for short term growth which is causing long term decline is an alarmingly important matter!

[@blackroseangel123]

All of it

[@jonathancorbyn8203]

The decline is permanent. The U.K. is a poor country with a few rich people. Our per capita purchasing power used to be roughly equal to that of the U.S. in 2001. Now, the average American is so much wealthier than the average Britain, it's tragic.

[@AllSeerAugustus]

Fixing our nation will take time. The medicine we need will be extremely bitter, almost like weening us off an addiction to decline. We need to be patient, get active in your community and be a part of making the changes we need instead of sitting and complaining about the government all the time

[@kevinduffin4665]

Ii agree but we need to make stop people milking the systerm and they will always be a small minority that do this

[@MCDONALD6969]

You guys should listen to yourselves. All labour do is tax & spend other people's money. If you voted Labour I have no sympathy. Enjoy your "medicine" I call it just being poorer.

[@garybradley2171]

@@MCDONALD6969isn’t that exactly what people voted for… improved public services?

[@anonnymous4684]

@@MCDONALD6969 And your vote went to.......?

[@MCDONALD6969]

@@garybradley2171 so people are happy to be worse off & potentially lose their jobs given 100k jobs are potentially at risk for "public services"? Seriously!?

[@JRattheranch]

What did people that voted Brexit expect? 😅 The UK won't ever recover to that it once was until the public wake up and start reading and understanding world politics!

[@davidpiper3652]

They never were Boris Bikes, the scheme was Ken Livingstone's idea.

[@Pobotrol]

Which proves their point even moreso.

[@nicksimmons7234]

Proves how bad our journalists are. Boris buses are a thing and they’re not fix for purpose. Says it all.

[@deelawdazhahs1078]

working is not worth it for many young people, rents are too high and the UK has an acute Feudal problem with barely any housing going around. It takes away upto 60% of someone's income, add bills and there is barely anything left to even eat...easy for younger people to conclude that working isnt worth it in low paid, low productivity Britain.

[@osmonddsilva1577]

Add University bill of £ 30,000

[@susannewton3757]

I bought my first house in the 1970s, after all my expenses(food, utilities etc)I had £3 a month spare. I worked in pub 2 nights a week to help finances, sat in dark some nights and cried when someone gave me an old tv and I had to buy a license. Times were different then. I knew it would get better but it was hard going at first. I feel sorry for young people now, there’s so much to spend their money on.

[@MCDONALD6969]

So do young people expect tax payers to pay for them? No wonder no one wants to set up business in a work shy nation.

[@tropicaltrev1617]

@@susannewton3757with all due respect but you can’t compare what you went through to what the youth of today are going through. You lived through Thatcher’s right to buy scheme for example which propelled many people out of poverty, which in turn helped to put more families kids in Universities . Parents were able to get their children on the property ladder by helping out with deposits which for obvious reasons isn’t happening to the same extent now. While there will always be a section of society that will always try the easy route, we need to be much more understanding of a generation that will lead our country in the future.

[@susannewton3757]

@ I do understand what you’re saying but it does seem to me too easy to say things are different now, of course they are but I came from a poor background and had to work, my parents couldn’t afford to keep me. I don’t remember anyone I knew not working, parents would simply not have allowed it. Also getting dole was no easy option and it wasn’t spending money, it was for your keep.

[@richardgregory3684]

"When will Britain feel the benefit of a Labour government?" The day after it's booted out.

[@jamesholt4449]

agree lib dem will sort it all out

[@Phil-n7c]

The Tories have been in power for 32 of the last 45 years, do you seriously think this country is in the state it is because we haven't had enough Toryism?

[@GS44691]

Searing analysis. Thanks for playing.

[@chriscleary5535]

I had a life changing stroke at 61. I also have cancer and chronic prostatitis. I was almost in despair before receiving PIP. And I've had to reapply which is extremely stressful. I just don't get how so many are on sickness benefits unless they are entitled. People in the media have no idea how the process works. The Party formerly known as the Labour Party say they are the Party of "Working People" I no longer fit into this category. Before anyone says I qualify as I worked most of my life I would mention my brother. He's been disabled since birth. Where does he fit in? He's not "Working People" Pensioners and children don't fit the bill either. I got someone to write this. To say otherwise could jeopardise my benefit. “The whole world's in a terrible state of chassis”

[@Pobotrol]

In what way is this a personal attack at you or your brother? Labour aren't talking about forcing people into work, they are talking about giving people better chances to get back into the workplace, improving physical and mental health outcomes so people who are able to take advantage of them can get back to work and an independent productive life. The more people in work, the more productivity and the more facility to help those of us who aren't able to engage in the workplace. Do we really believe a third of the working age population are forever more incapable of work? If that's true then society and a welfare system are probably unworkable in the long term.

[@brockit79]

I had a life changing accident aged 31, we are a special category of lower than the lowest rung on the ladder. Socialism has become a dirty word, looking out for those unable to look out for themselves is alien to all of the capitalism loving America wannabes until they realise just how grim life is over there with their chlorinated chicken eating antics. Incapacity benefits aren't easy to get so I don't know how some can blag it unless it's genuine that so many people are sick.

[@GS44691]

@@Pobotrol Get back to work!

[@tommymorrison6478]

Fyi Mr. Marr, I started feeling the benefit the moment I knew Labour had won. Every morning now I wake up with a sense of wonderment and joy that the spiv party aren't in the driving seat anymore.

[@blackroseangel123]

I have to say it's nice not waking up to a constant stream of Tory sleaze, scandals and a weekly staff change.

[@andrewturner6642]

You are of course being ironic!

[@067captain]

We have created a perfect storm for young people. We think as a society that the way to love children is to make their lives easier. So no part time jobs, no individual sports events, no smacking, no policemen clipping you round the ear for misbehaving in public. They are all driven to school, god forbid they should walk two miles in the rain. Schools have eliminated any sort of failure. Just say the word fail in front of a teacher and they twitch! The pandemic did absolutely nothing to children, that was done by Parliament. The way you create resilient, mentally tough adults with a work ethic is to test, stretch, challenge and pressurise children mentally and physically. I don’t mean abuse, but be tough on them. My dad’s generation lived their very young years through the blitz, spending every night in bombs shelters. Rationing, hunger, death and proper hardship. What was the result - a generation of tough, strong, hard working people who rebuilt our shattered country, working 6 day weeks. Their one week off a year was spent hop picking from dusk till dawn. We will never solve this, society is not tough enough, and if anyone suggested such strategies they would lose their jobs.

[@tusken2305]

I personally feel that the Cameron government and it's atrocious austerity policy, it's manifest failures on immigration, Europe, and defence is probably the single most important reason that Britain is in such a mess !

[@RandallSlick]

Why do you media people continue to refer to what was once called, rightly Social Security, as 'benefits'? You're playing the neoliberal game and I for one despise you for it.

[@TranquiloTrev]

A major government study was commissioned to understand this phenomenon. That is, people not wanting or not being able to work. It was discovered that they were sick and not idlers. That study was in 1842. This lead to the 1848 Public Health Act. Successive Public Health advances, continued to improve the situation. So, we have been here before. Public Health has been largely abandoned in the UK over the last 15 years. Nevertheless, the results are the same as in 1842. Our bodies have not changed in that time. It has resulted in people being too sick to work.

[@garybradley2171]

I’m fascinated by where these “6,500 teachers” are going to come from… it takes years to train them and at the moment far more are paving the profession than are joining… and most of those that do join leave after a very short time.

[@garybradley2171]

and FWIW I also feel it shows a shocking lack of journalistic questioning that this figure and the means by which it will be met have not been adequately integrated.

[@manjeetgill1]

Same thing with housing. The target is completely unrealistic

[@chieftandriver703]

Thank goodness the ‘adults are back in charge’ 🤔🙄🙄🙄 The whole country doesn’t revolve around the NHS and the fact the government thinks it does shows how closeted and parochial the Labour Party is. I don’t work just to keep the NHS in funds

[@GS44691]

They do have, and are working towards, other policy goals. You might want to check them out then you'll be in a better position to judge if they're making a success of their ambitions or not. Failure to do so just makes you appear to be a rosette voter who in reality cares little about the country or its people and is more concerned about their team winning. In other words, a typical voter.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

An Irish border poll could be arranged in six months.

[@peterscott6818]

I just got a call from my dentist. I haven’t been since 2020 since covid. They offered me an nhs appointment. That’s not been offered here for four years. That’s tangible delivery for me. They have introduced changes to inheritance tax to stop rich non farmers buying up loads of land and out competing real farmers. That’s delivering. They still have to make sure real farmers don’t suffer but that’s doable. Living wage has gone up. That’s delivering. We had 14 years of conservative corruption ruining our country. You don’t fix that in four months. Who could do better? The Tories didn’t and Reform’s ‘policies’ are a sick joke.

[@Schiltron]

“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra

[@manjeetgill1]

The cartoon character? "Smarter than the average bear"

[@nicksimmons7234]

Whichever cabinet minister said they’ll be a one term government should be fired. Because they’re not a very good politician!

[@_dan_here_]

The health issue in the UK has just been made far worse by Labour - Stress is the number killer and Labour have just turned this up to 11. The UK was desperate for a bit of calm especially for business owners and this has been made very stressful. Stress erodes the body in every way you can think and makes people chronically ill.

[@KevC1234]

Starmer's authoritarian appearance is a very big part of the problem for the voters, that and the fact migration is through the roof, the people voted for Brexit because of immigration, the Tories won their elections on the promise of reducing immigration, the current level of dissent and dissatisfaction will continue until the political elite stop, listen and implement what the majority want

[@garyh1572]

Brexit was NEVER going to reduce immigration. You're a mug for falling for it .

[@KevC1234]

@garyh1572 I'm a remainer, it may well be that Brexit was never going to change immigration, but that was the reason a lot of people voted for it, but those who voted for Brexit due to their concerns over immigration had no other option because no government will listen to their concerns and nothing seems to be changing.

[@dsmith657]

UKs been in decline for 40 years not just since 2008.

[@davidborwick2339]

Great point by Rachel about reactions to incumbent governments, makes a lot of sense.

[@lheureexquise140]

Gloomy atmosphere amongst the Labour cheerleaders 🤣

[@MCDONALD6969]

Vote labour vote to be poorer It isn't difficult.

[@brockit79]

@@MCDONALD6969 except the reality is the People became much poorer once the numpties in society voted for Brexit - so vote Brexit? Then you had a hand in making people poorer.

[@Pobotrol]

@@MCDONALD6969 Couldn't be much poorer than the Tories made us.

[@MCDONALD6969]

@Pobotrol really? May I kindly remind you that we now have record high taxes & every statistic is saying we are all worse off & that's before the 100k jobs that the CBI have mentioned are potentially at risk.

[@brockit79]

@@Pobotrolnothing like glossing over that fact - to a Brexiter.

[@Shine_a_Light2024]

Never. What a ridiculous question!!

[@GS44691]

Thank you for playing.

[@ArtSmart91]

0:52 I’m an experienced teacher who’s worked in education for 10 years and I can tell you now the teachers aren’t coming. Very lazy journalism from Andrew Marr

[@peterwright5311]

Maybe the government will improve matters by making life in the UK less crap.

[@geoffclarke3796]

The answer is never. Taxes too high, spending to high (and on the wrong things) so no surprise you end up with an economy with anaemic growth and declining living standards.

[@AlTarif]

Never. They will just make things even worse than they already are. I and millions of others also fundamentally disagree with their vision of the future. Basically the UK looking like Birmingham, London, Luton, Blackburn, Manchester and Bradford. Honestly the country will never be a great place to live again.

[@tomo_xD]

🎯

[@tomo_xD]

It's amusing to see people naively believe labour will solve anything at all

[@GS44691]

And millions don't disagree with their vision as evidenced by a 'will of the people' election win.

[@garyh1572]

We had 14 years of the Tories- where was your complaint then ???

[@stevejones4275]

to Marr: it totally insane to reassess people with brain damage. he should know since he has it!

[@keiththorpe9571]

It took the Tories 14 years to do the damage...I'm afraid it's gonna take Labour a little time to fix things.

[@sheilarabjohns9907]

They never will fix it just make it 10 times worse

[@countryman5329]

You are going to be in for a massive disappointment.

[@jonaen24]

The Tories created a “hostile environment”.

[@dsmith657]

My partner is terminal ill and a Doctor sign the forms. There is no way she can work. Andrew's comments are quite offensive

[@BEGGARWOOD1]

The UK is done. It’s very sad but Brexit was the final nail in the coffin. I have 7 years left here before I escape. Such a shame but the great nation that educated me, provided so many opportunities is over . Such self inflicted misery

[@alanhenley1866]

The problems of fixing the UK economy will take the best part of this parliament. The Gt. British electorate are unlikely to show the appreciation of that and in their righteous anger will boot the incumbent Government out and return the other cretins back to power. But you can never be sure. We can never be certain of outcomes in an unstable world.

[@marianmcshane5983]

When they’re voted out. Full stop

[@bengenovese6591]

Ah even Marr is questioning Starmer. It’s over

[@kjw8189]

Allow people to work self employed up to 10k a year on top of benefits for x years - but taxed in full no personal allowance, will help people get back into work, good cv etc, and break the mental i cannot work link (and raise money from the tax/ increase the rate of start up businesses) not the full solution just an idea?

[@Phil-n7c]

Back into which jobs exactly? No one ever looks at how many actual vacancies that there are and notices that they are less than the total number of unemployed and sick people

[@TW-dj5zq]

​@Phil-n7c I think an example might be- someone goes long term sick due to mental health, picks up a craft, let's say making coasters, then decides to sell them on etsy or something, mental health improves as they have more going for them and then they can come off benefits eventually.

[@leegosling]

The only way of bringing down the health budget… is to increase the health budget. Mend it.

[@ScepticalBrit]

"There does seem to be over-diagnosis and misdiagnosis going on" says the woman who has no medical qualifications at all!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stuontwo677]

I think the point they're making is there is likely a large number of people who are claiming for things like anxiety for example or ADHD and are absolutely over-egging how bad it actually is. I have no doubt that's happening on a large scale. However that doesn't mean that people who ARE really crippled by these conditions shouldn't be getting benefits. Similar story in the NHS with the ridiculous amount of people who call for ambulances when it's not a life or death situation. Or who go to A&E with minor injuries. Unfortunately I'm not sure any of these problems is going to be easy to "fix".

[@Phil-n7c]

@@stuontwo677 How exactly do you know? Because the Daily Mail told you? It couldn't just be that many people are giving up, that there aren't enough jobs or that they look at the way the world is going and despair? Google the total number of job vacancies (840,000) and then look at how many are unemployed / off sick. It's a difference of about 4 million.

[@johnsnelgrove7874]

I remember IDS changing the benefits system to encourage people to go to work and paying them their benefits as unemployment benefits as well. This seem to work very well.

[@sidensvans67]

Never .

[@foxkillingtime]

F o o l

[@Pobotrol]

If straightening out the country's economy, to improve growth and fix our public services doesn't do it for you, what exactly do you want? What's your big plan?

[@geoffreyhills4978]

Hilarious premise in the question! 😂

[@stevemarshall4822]

When its gone.

[@___AD]

Young people come out of UNIVERSITY and can't find a job related to their degree or they have to start at a company at the bottom and it makes them depressed and stressed out so go on the sick. Once you are tagged with that companies won't touch you and it's a death spiral.

[@JonathanPercival-smith]

How about never!!!

[@stevejones4275]

Marr's a nutter, I do not choose to describe myself as disabled, but I'm paralysed down the left side! if I were put to work would the right side need to do twice as much work?If I do not work am I rotting?

[@BlueTomBlue]

He’s not talking about all disabled people. Of course there are people like yourself who genuinely need and deserve financial support. There are however lots of people on the margins who should be getting support finding work rather than being paid without proper assessments in place.

[@Phil-n7c]

@@BlueTomBlue He's being political. No one ever looks at how many actual vacancies that there are and notices that they are far less than the total number of unemployed and sick people

[@gmanlee575]

Every year there are billions in unclaimed benefits, food for thought

[@stevejones4275]

​@@BlueTomBlue But Marr spoke of "those who describe themselves as disabled", he's a nut job, to keep things simple.

[@u01anm3]

Not sure if you are trolling…You do know Andrew Marr works pretty hard in spite of a pretty serious stroke and resulting disability? Obviously some people cannot work, but for the benefit of individuals and society we should help as many people as possible to contribute.

[@am3ient]

The difficulties for someone with chronic illness and disability in being able to sustain work is what makes it so hard. He's basically implying it's some feckless lifestyle choice.

[@alessiocortez6520]

I would say segment title could be shortened to ‘NS Cope’, but that has basically been the past 4 months anyway.

[@Phil-n7c]

Do you really think a country can change in 4 months?

[@janpetersen7440]

"When will Britain feel the benefit of a Labour government?" A really good fat joke. 😃

[@Phil-n7c]

Who do you propose take over?

[@SamUploads420]

How about the extra costs imposed by the in work and living with disability? I'm paying hundreds in medication alone, while PIP is near impossible to navigate for someone with mental health issues.

[@Wolfloid]

How long are we going to consider the impact of the pandemic? Are we to let it destroy the rest of people’s lives allowing them to just be sick, perceive themselves to be sick and force those that do work to support them forever? As Andrew says, other countries do not have the problem of a million young people going straight onto sickness benefits. Looking away from this problem will destroy the Labour party, and do enormous harm to the whole of society.

[@Phil-n7c]

How long are we going to ignore the fact that the total number of job vacancies is far less than the total number of unemployed and sick people? The sickness benefit system is ALREADY very tight as I discovered myself

[@Wolfloid]

@@Phil-n7c according to the podcast, people on sickness benefit receive up to £100 a week more than those actively searching for work, and are not reviewed much when on it. Why is that ok? Of course, it is always hard when anyone is really sick or even unemployed when they really want to work, but we also know employers are bemoaning the lack of workers - does that mean everyone can get a job, of course not, but those that are able should try. The telling evidence that something more than just genuine sickness is going on in many cases is that the number of sick people has only exploded in Britain, but nowhere else. The long term effect of young people going straight on to either benefits long term will be catastrophic on their mental health in itself, and catastrophic for working people who have to support them.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

I remember saying to a guy that it would be great to be(the previous) crown prince: 50 years of job training and still a useless ah person. Or remember Hunt saying how hard it was to scrape by on £100k a year? You're in charge of the economy: give everyone a tax credit.

[@Flobbydobby]

The day after the next election…

[@puoesseremostrato1584]

A completely stabalized workplace is needed ; but there cannot be a completely stable workplace... if there is also a wish to populate the *lower* *ranks* *of* *the* *army* with *"volunteers."* The British army populates its lower ranks... by recruiting from society's 'surplus to requirement' (otherwise known as young men in poverty). The issue of conscription simply has to be addressed... and a completely European set of troops 🇪🇺

[@TranquiloTrev]

The panel have no idea what they are talking about. None have mentioned Public Health once. They probably have no idea what it is. I studied Public Health at college. Lots of people did. Why aren't any of them discussing this problem.

[@manjeetgill1]

Given the exdodus of landlords from the market , expect rent to rise c 10pc a yesr for the next 5yrs AND a big increase in families living in temporary accomodation. Labour havent thought this one through

[@ManvasPachenko]

Not whilst that tyrant is running the show. Letting dangerous criminals out of prison, but arresting and jailing people for their online opinions. He's a joke, and so far removed from what the people expect from a Labour PM

[@blackroseangel123]

I'll take not being activity destroyed. We make another step forward at the next election.

[@jonathanfell688]

FFS Labour have been in power for only 5 months!

[@scootjohn777]

When Britains trial run of Marxism ends.

[@balham456]

20 minutes of film-flam…no mention of the petition.

[@janicelewin447]

When they have gone

[@AUNEDJ]

Keep pushing younger generations to their limits while protecting the elders. Guess who pays the pensions of the later ones.

[@abloke8834]

Oops I'm on the wrong channel.

[@MrCrosby.s_lunch]

Never it seems

[@peterfox2538]

Never

[@rebekahdean4315]

The pandemic was traumatic for everyone, children, adolescents significantly more, yes! These are different times AI will build into this & the 2 current wars, Orwellian!

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

I diagnosed this show with criminal ignorance with regard to Northern Ireland and to be fair, they did one segment, but it was shockingly bad with the same old complacent non analysis.

[@jorda_n_]

Dont know - are they going to somehow manage to pull usable sand out there arses so we have cement?

[@luke7708]

Making it harder for people to claim benefits and replacing money with vouchers isn't progressive either.

[@Wolfloid]

Does it matter whether it is or is not progressive. It does not seem to ‘progressive’ to let the country go into steep decline because no one wants to work. Maybe giving vouchers makes people realise that other people are paying for their inactivity, and maybe some gratitude is due. Is going sick a British disease? Because it is not the case in other European countries that sickness has climbed like it has in Britain.

[@christopherlaumer6721]

12:40 she's so close

[@outoftownr3906]

In 5 years when there out

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

Ah, of course! Anti-authority memes are to blame! Idiots...

[@bobbyb379]

Will we feel the benefits of a Labour government the day after the next General Election? 😂

[@JJONNYREPP]

When will Britain feel the benefit of a Labour government? | Andrew Marr | The New Statesman. 24.11.24. You'll feel the benefit when conservatives come to power.....

[@NuckerIThink]

Disagree strongly about putting your name on every funding and investment. It's led to even further centralised decision making, as it all has to come from the Government, so that the Government can claim credit, which is actually hurting investment. It was very bad, and I really hope this new Government moves on from that and in particular allows councils/devolved regions & nations to take ownership of these projects instead.

[@stephenjenkins1323]

Never😊

[@andrewdavies8954]

Dear old Mr Marr by the day becomes more removed from reality , we are facing a disaster with this Labour in power, please wake up Mr Marr .

[@anonnymous4684]

We've had 14 disastrous years of the Tories. It was always going to be difficult to turn things around after that.

[@lheureexquise140]

I love New Statesman videos. Currently, it is sweaty and depressed in the liberal bunker. As the next couple of years roll by, Andrew Marr is going to go full 'Downfall'. No answers, no principles, no passion, no brains, no competence: Starmer is so f***ed. I have the popcorn out and am working through it.

[@zaedenuk]

When they're out of office in 2029 or sooner, if enough labour mps develop a spine and vote against this government in a vote of no confidence motion.

[@Jon-hh3gz]

In 2 years or so 😌

[@nicksimmons7234]

‘No 6,500 teachers yet’, can’t believe Labour haven’t delivered these in 5 months! Are you serious journalist or not. FFS

[@percyclark8767]

Biggest load of bollocks I have ever heard

[@j.4332]

When we see Starmer doing the walk of shame away from No 10,we will feel better about Labour.

[@williama-d6]

Not really true Marr you can't see a lot of what's going on with mental health issues and that's what is being said by mental health professionals my suggestion is to let people be themselves and you will notice that there is mental health and isn't it America that wants to diagnose kids as mentally ill and you would not believe in a million years what I have been going through

[@sheilarabjohns9907]

Andrew, you’re the first person that I’ve heard not to run down the labour party good night. I don’t need to listen to any more of your rubbish.

[@mikewade2395]

answer Never, simple, massively overpopulated ,increasing every week

[@Luddite-vd2ts]

Pandemic?! For Christ's sake stop making excused for weak willed snowflake attitudes. I get sick of people who think they've got 'problems'. Pull your darmned socks up and get on with life.

[@jamescos3267]

Well it won’t take 14 years to get no better

[@williamtaylor2784]

I used to suspect Marr was a leftie when he was with the BBC. There's no doubt now and it makes you realise how biased against the Tories he really was. Disgusting and despicable.

[@iandennis7256]

Never