Nick & Ant On Gay P*rn's Evolution, Gay BAITING & OnlyFans

[@PierreLetsPlay]

Just love how you all have zero problem discussing topics so many people shy away from and share it with us

[@ItsJustNick_]

We are going to be open on this podcast. Often too open, and unfiltered!

[@rhysdaniels1003]

Amazing I will listen you guys are great.Ive wanted to make a KZbin channel well I can start but I want to do OF too but guidance do you have any suggestions you can give to me ❤

[@gregmckinney7178]

Love this !!!! I'm a 67 year old gay widower with children, grandchildren and a great grandchild . I love the openness between young and old !!!

[@ItsJustNick_]

Awee so much love to you ❤️

[@pompom11]

Nice family 🙂 WHY would you marry a woman if you prefer sex with men, I’d like your input on this. Did she know? Thanks 🙂

[@Dorimefasolatedo]

Since your 67 years old how did you managed to have kids, grandchildren and a great grandchild while being gay? 🤨 Seems like you cheated on your poor wife after concealing to her you were gay for a long time.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@MM-ep7un]

I love it so much when people are as diverse as you. On the one hand gay but with a great grandchild, on the other hand so interested in what's going on in young people's lives. I also like this channel because I like people with big age gaps getting together and chatting about all sorts of things. It's so boring when people just get older and lose touch with younger generations. I try to be informed and keep in touch with the young people and see the differences. I've had my time and I like that I'm more relaxed about my age.

[@pyraxusthelutarian7276]

I have to say as an "Old gay" myself (58 this month) that I really enjoy these podcasts and think that all of you do such a fantastic job discussing the issues and topics. I actually watch them all the way through as they are both intriguing and engaging. I love the old gay perspective because there is so much there that I can relate to and I also love the new gay perspective since I still consider myself to be "young at heart" and pretty open minded overall. Great job to all of you and thank you so much!

[@djweisbeck]

Thanks for listening! From one old gay to another.

[@frankbuffone4958]

Thanks for the lovely comment :)

[@ForgeMasterXXL]

Old gay myself and I completely agree.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@jeromejackson1029]

Blockbuster never had porn. The gay pornography was at any video store but was located in a back room. There were signs over the top of the door that said must be 21 yrs old to enter. This was 50 yrs ago and I’ve lived In Appalachian mountains all my life. Happy pride to you both!

[@enashinonomestan]

This podcast is genuinely so interesting with a comparison of older and younger generational perspectives and how it compares to my perspective as a 17yr old

[@Donnie-hf5du]

Tough time coming out? I did to. Let's hear those experiences

[@markbell9973]

It really is a very different 3rd or 4th gen. Am about dying to hear from an upcoming GenA. I feel it has become simultaneously easier and harder.

[@mollylandless1294]

This podcast has become such a comfort for me

[@23gizmo32]

Thanks so much. You guys are all so bright and insightful, and mature. It's so great getting both the "young" and "old" perspectives. I think the "do your homework" advice is right on target. Looking forward to the next podcast.

[@ItsJustNick_]

We loved this feedback 🤍🤍 really means alot

[@hannahtrotter3923]

Just wanted come here and say how proud I am of Nick and his struggles with his eating disorder, from how it explains it it sounds so so challenging and currently now he is eating more and more healthier so congrats Nick your so so strong ❤️

[@kimemerson5732]

Congratulations, Dan and Frank, on your wonderful 23-year relationship! Being with one person for that long is difficult, no matter the relationship. Nick, you have amazing role models in your uncle and Dan. Thank you for bringing the older, mature point of view to this episode. I can remember (I'm 67) the troubles my gay friends had back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's finding resources and support, plus the stress of their sexuality being exposed and losing a job or housing. What a sad time, but I'm so happy to see how quickly things are finally changing, and I hope the young guys realize and acknowledge what those who came before have sacrificed for them. I'm looking forward to part 2! Be well, everyone!

[@peterciarcia2023]

Some years ago I had the great good fortune to meet one of the first gay porn actors that I had ever seen. I was happy to tell him that I always thought that no one thought the same way that I did until I saw him. We hugged, and he even cried a little to hear that.

[@ItsJustNick_]

Really love this story! Thanks for sharing this!!

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@BobHourigan]

Really enjoyed the podcast today. Very informative. Keep it up guys you're doing a great job. Take care!!

[@ItsJustNick_]

We love your support thank you so so much!

[@leeboriack8054]

Dan & Frank, congratulations on 23 years of marriage, that’s a long time in straight years and even more so in Gay years. Bravo!

[@geraldgoyette2676]

Loved every minute of the podcast and to thank all of you. WELL DONE!

[@chefjeff1000]

My husband and I have been together for more than 37 years.37+ very happy years. We have friends who just celebrated their 42nd.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@animalhelper13]

It’s amazing listening to different generations of gay men talk about topics like this. My only thing is I always thought “Queer Baiting” was used to label straight guys who overly sexualize themselves and promise pornographic material behind a paywall only to find out that none of that material was actually posted. I don’t have a problem with straight guys doing gay porn and playing that character. Many pornstars are “Gay-for-Pay” and that has never been an issue. The problem I have is these types of straight people taking money from gay guys by promising pornographic pictures and videos of themselves only to find out once purchased that the content is not at all what they marketed it to be.

[@geekphysique4564]

I assumed you ran into this issues ? I know of a few that are straight and pretend to gay contents but never really promising any close to what they market. In fact it was all women.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@MikeHarvey-zh3jz]

Wow loved this podcast, I am an old gay 60. I related to so much said by Nick’s uncle and partner, it’s so nice to see the two generations debating. More please I love it ….

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@Leviwosc]

Great video! I'm half way the video right now and I thoroughly enjoy the conversation between the four of you.

[@aqua-14156]

Love you guys and videos so much! Glad to see you're back on youtube and with a lovely podcast!!💙💙

[@JoelApplegate]

I didn't expect to be saying this, but this was truly excellent. Having these generational perspectives is invaluable.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@retineshilares2497]

Thanks for that sensible discussion. I was on fetlife lately looking to find kinksters with a youtube channel and your openess about your only fans account helps me keep up with the younger generation. As a queer nb I'm still having trouble to find a community and support, but at least social norms shift and we can experience less marginalisation and expect more good things for our networks in the future.

[@paulbush2341]

Nice seeing younger gay men interested in the lives of older gay men. My husband and I have been to together 40 years, and live in Wyoming. Not a lot of out gay men here, so love seeing this conversation between confident & comfortable guys.

[@michaelc8126]

Hi Guys I live in Lander. Just looking for friends

[@williamsmith2771]

Laramie boy here who has lived in my NYC neighborhood (Chelsea) since May 1985. Thrilled to hear about Wyoming gay people.

[@Donnie-hf5du]

Confident & comfortable guys? Really??? Your diminish the wisdom, confidence and comfortableness of Franc and his partner

[@nellyliscious]

I really enjoy your content it’s refreshing to see the perspectives of old vs new

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@allenweist4483]

Thank you for the intergenerational discussion on gays. I wish I could talk to my own nephew with this casual repore.

[@geoffreyschultz8515]

Just found this now as it appeared recommended in my YT. Fantastic, fantastic conversation. All of you so very well spoken. One thing that concerned me was the “young people not going or dropping out of college” because of how much money they could make, juxtaposed with the later commentaries about how that’s not going to last forever. And I’m not just talking about the money. I have gone to schools where someone with a sport talent makes them lots of money, or a lucky draw in some other field makes them lots of money, and drops out of school. The cases that come to mind, they made a lot of money, but still lack the moral compass to live a life I would admire and respect. I’m not saying it’s imperative to go to college to be a good person with a lifetime of success (I know someone who didn’t even go and I admire perhaps more than anyone both in business success and quality as a human being). But that’s extraordinarily uncommon. So, circling back around, I feel an excellent piece of advice consistent with the final point about “investing the money” instead of spending it is to save it for a further education. The idea that someone has to go to college just from 18-22 is, I think, a bit outdated, but having an excellent education is something that helps you not only think but also have a moral compass for life. One can make the money now, but still defer the kind of education that guides you through life by a few years and use the money perhaps to study something you’d have had trouble paying for earlier. But eliminating the studies completely can lead to someone later in life who makes a lot of bad decisions because they never formalized the thinking process as well as establishing a moral compass.

[@kingbingham5139]

OMG You guys are my idols!!!!!!!!!! I love Nick and Ant sm like Ant is so adorable and cute and clearly pays attention and wants to know what Nick is going to say!!! Then you used my idea about Exploitation, I always suggest ideas to people but they never use them, Thank You So Much I could literally die now💓💓💓💓💓💓💓 Love You Besties 💓

[@nickarena14]

What a fabulous discussion and concept - definitely kept interesting and intellectual. Awesome job!

[@anfduude84]

I really loved this so much... I really wish I had elder gays to talk to about topics just like you discussed on this to get their point of view and so fourth along with advice. Also, really agree with you guys on gay baiting and how wrong it is that people are taking advantage of the gay community and profiting off it - I definitely am against this! But, either way great Podcast and I can't wait to listen to more! I have been following you guys for years!! ❤

[@Js2Jo]

Nick, you're talking to your own husband, Anthony including Dan and Frank about gay porn evolution on this video, I'm proud of you, I wanna say Happy pride to you and him!!!

[@ItsJustNick_]

Happy pride! 🏳️‍🌈

[@popinontoast]

Absolutely in love with this podcast! These conversations (especially the ones on exploitation and queerbaiting) needs to be told!

[@curtisdorsett1390]

I am a 69 year old gay man and am a happy Only Fans subscriber. I far prefer it to the studio porn because it is not usually as staged, but when it is it often reflects the personalities of the performers. I love the performers of all age groups. There are performers who are over 50 and older. I enjoy the inter generational stuff, the twink stuff, the stud stuff, and the mature stuff. I have been a porn consumer since my late teens. My late husband and partner of 48 years also enjoyed porn. It is not a question of young or old. It is a question of affirming your sexuality and owning it.

[@mattcolins9264]

Its still staged and they have fake personas. Live in a major international city and you will come across them on app/ Irl and they are nothing like their image. "bi Dom tops' who fuck women and FTMs are fem bottoms on grindr........

[@adamlarsson3828]

i really, really enjoyed this. relaxed, gentle. and taking a genuine interest in the persons thoughts and responses.

[@manialord1699]

Nick you sped my gay awakening. Was kinda already there but I felt like I had 5 years of gay knowledge in a year

[@olliecooper4232]

Thank you I enjoyed watching this today, I remember seeing all of your old content from day one too

[@christophersbonik9143]

OMG I can’t believe someone said they went from the clever migration from the underwear models to the back of Playboy. I am 57 and this is spot on!!

[@bsablosky]

We have been together 27 yrs. Our best friends have been together 42 yrs. There are many gay couples over 30 yrs. We live in upstate NY.

[@Donnie-hf5du]

Congrats gay couples - 60yr old single gay man that will die (terminal)wo knowing about true gay love. Walked in the Ashley Rucks LGBT parade when bottles and stuff got thrown at us

[@KaiShepherd-n6z]

What great podcasts you make and the topic today eye opening! You two are educational só make more please. Such a wonderful relationship you both have. Love listening to you. 😄🤗 xxx

[@ItsJustNick_]

We love the support thank you sm!!

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@TDonnelly1]

Please do an old Pride days vs new Pride days episode. We married in July 1999 so celebrating our 25th wedding next month and remember Pride in Atlanta being so much different than now or even in other cities. We recently bought a home in London and looking forward to experiencing it there. Please tell us what to expect.

[@djweisbeck]

Great topic. Thanks. Yes, I was in Dallas, TX for a long time before living in London and Pride was definitely different back in the day and in the US south.

[@HoldenFerguson-cd5dh]

Hey Nick, I just wanted to say that I am a massive fan of your videos and that you helped me in so many ways come out to my family. You helped me be brave. Thank you!

[@Liam57757]

I love the podcast i wait everyday for a new one ❤❤ keep up the good work guys❤❤

[@skywilliams1981]

Who do you think the are talking about at 17:21 at first I was like nick and Pierre but they got divorced so I have no idea who it could be probably a British person but idk any theories

[@vroomvroomarmy1]

it’s def romeo and liam

[@_michaelberry111]

How could it be them? They said it was someone much much older than Romeo is

[@skywilliams1981]

@@_michaelberry111 you’re right that why I thought it was nick/pierre but they got divorced so i doubt it is

[@vroomvroomarmy1]

@@_michaelberry111 romeo lies abt his age nobody actually knows how old he is

[@massagewerks1734]

Romeo and liam

[@nichill7474]

I really enjoyed this talk. Great concept for a podcast.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@rameau6577]

This is amazing. You‘re creating a document of social history here.

[@showmoke]

Just to mention something that wasn’t talked about on here and that is the extreme stuff (I’ll have to choose my words carefully here otherwise the algorithm will block this message) either in pictorial magazine form or actual film and later on in video tape format was illegal to possess in the UK. It was also illegal to import into the UK from normally mainland Europe (particularly the Scandinavian countries). If you were caught with those sort of magazines at customs, then you could have been in serious trouble. The main differentiation between the soft stuff and the illegal stuff in the UK was whether anything erect was visible. This all changed of course as soon as the internet arrived, which meant the policing of illegal material became almost impossible after that!

[@ItsJustNick_]

Thats really interesting to know!

[@haziqali9716]

Romeo and Liam responded to the clip exposing them making its rounds on TikTok from this episode!

[@rileykate37]

Where is the video posted?

[@michclarke26]

What did they say in their response?

[@popinontoast]

Is it Romeo Twink that Nick is talking about at 16:44 ? I feel that the shoe fits with him, I have always been really suspicious about him, and his "boyfriend", and honestly it would make sense...

[@_michaelberry111]

No, he said it was someone much older who was older than 40 dating the really young one and his boyfriend was the 40-year-old behind everything

[@jaytops]

Sounds like Austin Wolf. But I could be wrong.

[@TJnDB99]

on a different topic..... So good to see both of you on Below Desk

[@davidcwitkin6729]

I absolutely cannot stand the lack of authenticity that queer-baiting and fake personae create! I only follow KZbinrs who are authentically themselves.

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@TimDFSmart]

this was a good podcast. having all four together gives a great flow of opinions. definitely hope these four continue.

[@ItsJustNick_]

That's the plan! I hope so too!

[@abelbouza1229]

Old gay here, 32 years sharing everything with my husband. Proud and happy.

[@tripprobinson8065]

Great conversation! What sort of work did Dan and Frank do during their careers?

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@wolfieboy474]

Im so happy they are back!

[@ItsJustNick_]

We’re happy we’re back too!

[@hannahtrotter3923]

Ahhh cannot wait besties ❤️

[@ItsJustNick_]

its finally here!

[@Rain73455]

The topics discussed here are important. I loved hearing your opinions and advice, please don't stop❣

[@donpM.A.D.4412]

Outstanding 😊, and very much understanding! Well done video... from Connecticut ❤️.

[@lagincourt]

Uhm, Nick, my husband and I have been together for more than 32 YEARS! So, there are those of us old gays who’ve grown old together as a couple! Wish you the the best, Reyes & Charlie in Dallas, Texas!!!😊❤

[@bharathanbn]

Just an another amazing Podcast Dealing With A Most Important Topic And They Gave It Very Healthy Waiting For New Episode Guys

[@ItsJustNick_]

Thank you so so much for your feedback ❤️🥺

[@andrewmelillo3235]

The whole idea of this podcast is so interesting

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@Willtu_313]

What a great topic to explore. Ty for Sharing with us❤ Happy Pride!🏳️‍🌈

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@JoaquinGonzalezSmilingalways]

Great episode guys, fantastic topic. 😃👍🏼👍🏼

[@oaklakeman]

Nick, I have a friend who has been in his relationship with his husband for 42 years... there are lots of us in lifelong relationships

[@Mimii-.-]

OMG NOT U GUYS ON BELOW DECK I SCREAMED

[@arthurbridges6155]

Yeah, I was surprised when zi saw Nick on Below Deck. .😊

[@robertcarter3836]

That was an interesting video. Thanks for sharing. If I may say, at times it was a shame when someone was interrupted and didn't get to make a point. Not naming 😄 sending love

[@Rey-sc8gg]

I just found this podcast and I really love it.

[@dannykelly9840]

The amount of tea spilled in this video, just me who knows who they’re talking about 😵🤯🤣

[@conor.delaney22]

Who is it ahh i cant figure it out

[@66skate]

I wish they would have left that part out.

[@magnusmackenzie137]

I’m very curious of who it is too

[@popinontoast]

I think its Romeo twink but I could be wrong

[@shaheedroylance]

We need timestamps boys 🙏

[@TDonnelly1]

Great concept of the podcast with the Old Gays. Enjoy the new and old points of view and experiences, can learn from both.

[@ItsJustNick_]

We’ve learnt so so much already from the Old Gays!

[@MrJerobona]

Great interview! Who are they not mentioning about the 18y/old and his boyfriend 40ish?

[@og--pb6gu]

who is the onlyfans couple nick was talking about im so curious

[@popinontoast]

I reckon Romeo Twink but I could be wrong

[@supermilkchan123]

my initial guess was either Reno Gold or Rhyheim Shabazz & Elijah Zayne, but they don't really fit the bill of what they described...

[@arielamejeiras8677]

25 years with my partner. And we lived in London! Thats winning gold on the gay olympics of life.

[@Dreama40]

The question is if someone is legal age (18) but portrayed as younger through the use of filters etc, is this legal?

[@Konor12368]

Is it a bad think that I knew exactly who Nick was talking about when he said “40 Year Old BF”?

[@og--pb6gu]

who is it gworl im trying to think about but no answer

[@linknoir78]

@@og--pb6guit has to be Romeo Twink and Liam

[@mvincenzes]

Going on 42 years for me with my partner - can't believe so much time has gone by :)

[@RandyMorganx]

Came for the comments because I REALLY wanted to know who they were talking about with which older person they were talking about with the young, fake boyfriend. This was a great show though, will be checking out more.

[@LoneEagleNC]

In the 80's we had Hondo, Blueboy and a couple of others. The gay video store/sex shop had booths to watch gay porn and had porn on VHS and betamax.

[@rehellman]

The labels 'gay,' 'straight,' et al are social identity labels that are chosen and may be more reflective of one's cultural identity with a particular group in contrast to one's sexual orientation. The most precise indicator of sexual orientation is sexual arousal, typically, as determined in scientific laboratory studies.

[@douglaslandry7740]

I’ve been with my partner and I’m a gay man for 37 years. I was 22 when I met him and a year later, we were in a relationship.

[@Kewlbudz]

41 yrs for me and my husband. 41ys and still strong. ❤❤❤

[@andrewmelillo3235]

Am I the only one who wants to know who the only fans liars are?!😅

[@ig.gui_s]

I think is Romeo and The other young guy

[@Buddy22326]

​@heavnsenttt Thats who first poped into my head. I remember first them Romeo and Liam a year or 2 ago..I was like what the heck is this..I find it creepy he looks only 14. It doesn't seem right at all.

[@bajanyaoikaizer6902]

Romeo and Liam who? I'm surprised no one is saying Reno Gold, but I guess he had a boyfriend and has off cam clients. And I know on a "certain site" they list scammers but those names haven't came up.

[@ropasidi5154]

All of them! Specially european guys are all queerbait faking it for the money!

[@leeboriack8054]

Could “Only Fans” just be another term for lies or fantasy?

[@aqua-14156]

Thanks for this podcast, love the topics you guys discuss!! So informative, fun and enjoyable to watch. Love you guys!! 💙💙 P.s- Happy pride!!🏳‍🌈

[@ItsJustNick_]

HAPPY PRIDE!! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@bemame0119]

My partner and I have been together 25 years… congrats old gays for 23 years…

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@AlfieMc-cz9mw]

Happy pride guys 🏳️‍🌈

[@fjmarcliff1390]

You are missing a significant point; if you stay on a traditional track and venture out, your acceptance and ability to move in various circles only increases. If you move into only fans or porn, then you had better have a business and investment plan because, like it or not, trying to move into other circles will be significantly more complex and can be a liability down the road.

[@theanimallover675]

Dear Ant and Nick still Lovely 💖 People and again thank you for your lovely answer at my coment with the other podcast. Very good Podcasts by the way with this subjects can't wait till the other one comes out. One question are there only now podcasts or also other videos at youtube still watch the other ones there and like and love 💞 to follow You with everything you do 😃🍀 have a nice evening and its early but also later a nice day and wish You Both a lovely 💖 weekend greetings love and huggs from the netherlands

[@ItsJustNick_]

As we get comfortable with the posting schedule and process of putting out our podcast, we will open up time to return with our regular content that has been missed over the past few years while we took a break from KZbin. We hope to share our life through those videos too. We're confident their will be different types of content coming to the channel, it is just starting with the podcast!

[@vroomvroomarmy1]

i love yall so much!!!!

[@calamaridog]

23:45 thank you sooo much for making the equal opportunity point

[@jonasalden29201]

My first thought of who they're talking about was Reno Gold. I wonder if I'm wrong?

[@maxxie84]

on the queer bating, specifically around the actors / roles, I am gay, I did lots of Theatre in my youth and I love acting, I find it totally normal to do a role based on someone totally different from you, this is the whole point of acting... becoming someone different, if we start doing that, gay actors would not be able to play straight, or in the past a woman (different story altogether, agreed), but what you're implying is that actors should only be type cast roles, made for who they are already, and I wholeheartedly disagree with that. And any actor that does only one role, is a bad actor...

[@ab4805]

Together 45 years for me and my boyfriend. We have been together since April 1979, we live in the Quebec City Area of Canada and we got married in 2013 when I got to 65 years old (he was 62 then) and the Canada Pension plan was available for me and in the plan there was the necessity for the surviving one for a part of his pension. So to settle those formalities and make sure of each other rights in that sense, we got married in front of a the mayor of our town who was the autorise person for this civil ceremony.

[@peterciarcia2023]

I know some guys creating adult content on Only Fans who are pulling six figures a month. Yes, that's over a million a year.

[@ropasidi5154]

Kids remember before digital there were paper and print!

[@Skye_7_7]

Liking the podcast-type talks 😊 Podcasts aren’t really my thing, but still.

[@jaytops]

"One you hit 30, and your time is up." LOL

[@MrGabito88]

Im 35

[@AndreUtrecht]

I am 51 (from The Netherlands) and have had internet like since I was 21? And from day one there was gay porn online. So, when the older couple talks about 30 years ago.... I do feel like I myself grew up with the internet. I only started to really go party at like around 18 years old. So it is a bit weird for me to see people around my age and for them to not have grown up with internet and the ubiquitous porn on there. Gays my age with early access to the internet already were like dating online and watching porn early on. Gay chat sites were present from day one. Gay porn sites also. This eventually developed into the dating/chatting apps, but it is the same thing. Or this couple is like in their late 60's and they look much younger, otherwise I wonder: why weren't they on the internet in the early 1990's already? When I see the first seasons of the British sitcom 'Absolutely Fabulous' I always associate this with my early days online chatting to and meeting gay men on and via the interent and also consuming all kinds of porn. Not really much different from what is available today. Gays always were and often still are at the forefront of new developments. I realise that not everyone my age was already engaging with the internet early on. In this way I share much more in common with the experience millennials had in their lives. But okay when I was really young, like a developing child then yes I also was fascinated by the underwear models in catalogues. Whereas today the internet is present in the lives of people from the day they were born. I still vaguely remember a time without internet. But I feel I was so young and still figuring life out when Internet became a part of my life that it feels like it has been there all my life.

[@ARUchannel1]

that is cool

[@casdem138]

lekker ding

[@lucthin6245]

I enjoy the podcast. My question is around what age are the old gays? You said one of them is retired so I assuming they are in their 70s?

[@ItsJustNick_]

Not quite that age. 58 & 60 (I think!)

[@andretasse1607]

I see Queer baiting as a problem when it doesn't deliver what it promised. A tease, no meat. Often a practice by studios to tease the audience with gay subtext, but never deliver the gay kiss or full gay love story. JKR was out for me in 2007 when she outed" Dumbledore. There was this vampire show with the two actors playing gay in a 'back of the boat' promo teaser, just to bring more audience to the series, but never making the protagonists in the show actual gay characters...

[@JamesGilbert-m2v]

Hello handsome 🌈 How are you doing today . I'm gay and you🌈🌈?

[@villelep]

27:16 Ant, you worded the issue with gay baiting perfectly! I can't stand this phenomenon at all and avoid the gay/queer baiters

[@realdarklightning]

Ant's eyes - they’re like two pools so deep I fear that if I dive in, I might never come up for air.

[@MrGabito88]

Why air you dont need air

[@MalcomMalediction]

I agree with u that its really weird how the 45 year old is trying to make his 18 year old bf look like a minor in p0rn vids, but disagree with u Nick on hating the queer baiting. I thought lgbt was supposed to be inclusive...so why r we excluding straight men who wanna do gay for pay stuff. If anything it encourages straight men to not be homophobic when getting flirtatious compliments by guys n to become more comfortable with their sexuality. Would u rather a straight guy put out homophobic content attacking gay/bi men or queer baiting content that makes a lot of gay/bi men happy? Im not a straight man btw Im bisexual so dont hate. I just dont like how much lgbt hates on straight people.

[@anfduude84]

Also, isn't OnlyFans based out of the UK? I find it so odd that that agencies shame people in the UK who do OF, unless they see it as a threat of some sort or a competition.

[@ItsJustNick_]

Good point, it is a UK based company; but more so isn't their problem... Its the UK media that demonises OF in their outlets

[@stardustlyrics6304]

Really enjoying this conversation especially here in Africa even if we have the internet.. if feels like to be old gay cause you get get caught......