Nigel Farage's Talking Pints with former Anglican Bishop, Michael Nazir-Ali

[@5ebra1]

I wish Mr Nazir Ali all the best for the future. Brave man standing up for his beliefs.

[@janbugaj2422]

Well done former Bishop Michael, you are following your conscience and bravery enough to stand up for your beliefs! Do not be afraid of following God's teaching. The truth has set you free!

[@waynzignordics]

Society used to elevate people like Nazir-Ali, now look at who it elevates instead. Is it any wonder why our society is crumbling?

[@visionlandmusic]

True talk.

[@andrewjohnson388]

Bishop Michael speaks of wisdom and a nice person ...his soul ...thats what matters.

[@ifmusicbethefoodofloveegc986]

The Anglican church needs more priests like this man - so refreshingly down to earth.

[@cathalhendron3941]

He's left the Anglicanism and converted to Catholicism

[@ruthcollins2841]

@@cathalhendron3941 Being educated in a Catholic School I am not surprised!

[@danielagiovanazzi2055]

He came to his senses and came home to the true Church Our Lord instituted 2,021 years ago. Welcome home soon to be Father Nazir-Ali.

[@MikeyJMJ]

@@ruthcollins2841 He left the anglican church because of clown priests and bishops with names like yours! No anglican can justify being a member of a church that organizes pitch n' putt games inside churches (that they stole in the first place)

[@visionlandmusic]

The Anglican Church needs to disestablish and follow the word of God, not man!

[@seancarr8652]

The Bishop speaks with such clarity and wisdom. A major loss to the Church of England and should be wake up call

[@clarepartrick1066]

My late Father ordained as a minister at Rochester theolgical college in the early sixties and he always had a lot of time for Michael Nazir.

[@MikeyJMJ]

Anglicans always putting the line in the sand further ahead. When does an anglican admit the church became a failed project? The first female priest? The first female bishop? The first lesbian priest? The first lesbian bishop? The first transgender priest? The first transgender bishop? *"Hey, I know! Let's remain ignorant by going with the first queer trans alien archbishop of Canterbury, then I'll admit I was wrong!"* Good job, idiots! 😂👍

[@bastionofthefaith92]

@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME no such thing as a better protestant faith. Protestantism is heretical and man made. Britain must return to Catholicism

[@misererenobis8900]

@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME You have over 30,000 Protestant sects to choose from, take your pick..

[@visionlandmusic]

I'm afraid, it is too little, too late for the C.of E.

[@spannerintheworks1190]

The BBC preach diversity, yet Farage has the most diverse group of guests on 'pints', something that they can't manage to do with their bias.

[@birdsaloud7590]

And they would rather appoint a white Archbishop of Canterbury (Justin Welby) over this Bishop if he has the ‘right woke ideas’.

[@visionlandmusic]

The BBC are liars.

[@stephenscull901]

As a member of the Ordinariate of former Anglicans in the United States, I am overjoyed at the conversion of Michael Nazir-Ali. He is brilliant!

[@jjcm3135]

Im non-UK & catholic but always admired this man. A real gift to the Catholic Church. Very formidable man. There have been & are many very great Christian anglicans but their Church has become an instrument for the Zeigeist not the Holy Spirit. I hope & pray they wake up quick.

[@stephenwilliams1269]

I really enjoy Talking Pints. An excellent guest. Thank you Nigel.

[@davebannister323]

One of my favourite Bishop's - Michael Nazir - Ali . Humble in my opinion .

[@wendygreig4659]

“The church is hardly a part of the lives of ordinary people” said Nigel - so very true! Where is leadership for the Christian faith in our country?

[@froginhotwater4806]

Like many if not all organisation, they have been taken over by the woke.

[@aclark903]

@@froginhotwater4806 That's not entirely true. Tho some denominational leaders are quite left leaning, I still think there is quite a big difference between a left wing Christian and the mostly secular woke. Although for example the #Pope met #Biden this week, they are quite far apart on #abortion.

[@visionlandmusic]

AWOL. The real church of Christ is forced underground, as Jesus teaches many things today's society just does not accept.

[@juliandenormanville5225]

How people can seriously call Farage a racist is beyond me. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but he's no racist.

[@CrystalJ7]

hear hear

[@misdangered4326]

They call him that because they are intolerant bigots. With racism is often the case of “the one who smelt it dealt it…”

[@patrickmccutcheon9361]

He is a good interviewer and pundit. Problem is that he along with de Pfefffel Johnson peddled so many lies to make Brexit happen.

[@cun7us]

It's just ignorant leftists who know nothing about him besides what they see and hear in mainstream media.

[@visionlandmusic]

Of course not, he never was. That is how your media lie to the people.

[@anglodoomer5995]

He is a very interesting man

[@redset11]

Always good to listen to Bishop Michael, he is a true Christian and much needed in this country which has lost its way. And yes he should have been an Arch Bishop as Justin Welby and his bishops are into social justice and woke instead if preaching the gospel that our only hope in this fallen world is in Jesus Christ our Saviour.

[@visionlandmusic]

Justin Welby is a pretender.

[@stevew1669]

Excellent interview Nigel! Just enough intelligent comments, just enough rapport. Good luck to Michael Nazir Ali in the Catholic Church!

[@PC88198]

I could feel the respect Nigel farage had for Mr Nazir-Ali

[@visionlandmusic]

Well done Nigel, excellent viewing. This nation needs GBNews more than it realises!

[@marriedkiwi]

well done to GB news. Hope it keeps it up- great interviewing and wonderful guests like this GREAT christian

[@beverlyfletcher4458]

The best Archbishop of the 21st cent we never had - thanks again to Tony Bliar. Great man, what a loss. I wonder, a lot, how Welby sleeps at night...

[@Gill12283]

Bishop Michael is a big loss to the Church of England

[@MikeyJMJ]

The anglican church is a failed project

[@visionlandmusic]

Losing the presence and power of God is a much more obvious and significant loss!

[@mileshales526]

brilliant host and fascinating guest, thank you.

[@nickjung7394]

What an excellent interview. And what a perceptive, sensible man the Bishop is!

[@jasonaviator2760]

We welcome Michael Nazir-Ali to the Catholic Faith. I too left the Anglican Church and was received into the Catholic Church last year, no longer was I going to put up with a church that sits on the fence on every issue, lacks direction and Kowtows to the woke, I was sick of being on the periphery of faith.

[@AdamRTNewman]

What you've said there sounds like a pretty good description of the current pope. But at the same time, neither would I be happy in a church headed by a Roman bishop who infiltrates the Gospel of salvation with Romanist traditions being presented as necessary for salvation.

[@jasonaviator2760]

@@AdamRTNewman yes, admittedly our current pope airs on the more liberal side but even he works within the parameters of tradition, continuity and scripture, as for your claptrap around ‘Romanist traditions’ I am guessing you’re referring to the traditions of the church as founded by St Peter himself!!

[@danielagiovanazzi2055]

Jason Aviator. Welcome home to Rome! Things are bumpy in the Catholic Church and unfortunately Pope Francis is too liberal for many Catholics. Our Lord didn't choose 12 perfect men and He said it wouldn't be easy to follow Him. I hope that wherever you go for Mass, if it's a Novus Ordo parish that it is reverent. However, I pray that you manage to attend the proper Latin Mass sometime.

[@AdamRTNewman]

@@danielagiovanazzi2055 Is part of the "proper Latin Mass" that you have to have a relic under the altar?

[@MikeyJMJ]

@@AdamRTNewman Most altars have relics. It's actually biblical.

[@JohnnyNorfolk]

What a pity he was not the leader of the CofE.

[@MikeyJMJ]

The CofE is dead

[@andybray9791]

He should have been reverend at st Philip’s Southport and got rid of the Methodist mix many years ago

[@davidjackson1634]

The Church should never have remained silent during this pandemic disgraceful.

[@visionlandmusic]

It speaks volumes about the complete demoralisation of the so-called 'high church'.

[@marywebber593]

Gentle thoughtful man, a good discussion, we need more brave men who think for themselves. The church is too political now to support anyone the leaders are more concerned with image and virtue signalling.

[@annchadwick4613]

Tonally agree Nigel The Anglican Archbishop Is silent Beloved Christianity You are at threat Now more than ever we need your vision

[@stephenmoore9569]

Definitely a wolf in sheeps clothing

[@theknowledge.6869]

Very Good.

[@oliviergerard3775]

When England returns to Walsingham, Our Lady will return to England.

[@ilsekuper3045]

@Totus Tuus 👏👏👏👍

[@hughoxford8735]

As a Roman Catholic the decline of the CofE genuinely saddens me.

[@danarose6314]

And how is Mass attendance for the RC Church? Robust?

[@MikeyJMJ]

As a Catholic, I can't wipe the grin off my face!

[@JoelR_]

Luckily we are preserving the traditions of the English Church, which were violently ripped from the Church by Henry VIII, through Personal Ordinariate.

[@Bullcutter]

@@MikeyJMJ You should!

[@Bullcutter]

@Totus Tuus If you study the history behind Henry's separation from the true Church, you will find that it was the stupidly of the Pope of the time that didn't grant the annulment Henry was seeking that was the cause of start of the English church!

[@HouseOfBread.]

My faith is everything to me, but going to Church now is more like going to a labour party conference 😢

[@pickleperryemz]

Vote with your feet, change your church.

[@christopheroshea9799]

Anglican Church is more tea and cucumber salad Truth lies within We don't need church Those of truth Live the life by action Not edicts of hierarchy

[@christopheroshea9799]

@Totus Tuus wrong ,you're just a Catholic with defence of evil ,Rome is colliding with common sence and a more educated populous ,I am not a lover of religion or cults ,more scientific and natural , Rome and her pedophile network is a golden turd So pray to your imaginary gods and saints But all will be laughed at by those of more natural history

[@peterdockerty8077]

I have had no truck with the Anglican Church for decades due to the activism of the leadership. Im from Leeds but the Bishop of Leeds called brexiteers thick racists and much worse. Welby is a complete activist and last week conflating Nazis to climate change is just one idiocy of his. But closing churches through the pandemic has damaged the CofE. John Sentimu I believed to be holy and just the same with Nazir Ali. At least both these primates stick up for Christians unlike the Anglican leadership

[@visionlandmusic]

God bless you Bishop. The church must stand up for biblical truth and not be swayed by every modern cultural 'trend'.

[@dwightschrute900]

Completely false. The early English Christian’s would disagree, especially the bishops prior to 1594.

[@dwightschrute900]

@a basketboy The Reformers HAD NO authority and disobeyed the church councils + the Church IN ROME. They led many people to hell. Where did the reformers get their authority? from Satan himself for rebelling.

[@dwightschrute900]

@a basketboy "The Bible was compiled by Pope St. Damasus I at the Council of Rome in A.D. 380 and the Council of Carthage in A.D. 392." You're point blank wrong. if Henry was in sound mind, he would have executed the reformers under Edward VI for changing because doctrines ( Transubiation, veneration of Icons). The Anglicans held no authority, to even change anything. "The authority of the Pope: The Pope has the sole authority “to convoke an ecumenical council, preside over it personally or through others, transfer, suspend or dissolve a council, and to approve its decrees”. Half of Low Anglican's disagree with Nicea II over Icons, which is a big heresy. " which declared that images of Jesus misrepresented him and that images of Mary and the saints were idols.[24] The Second Council of Nicaea restored the veneration of icons and ended the first iconoclasm."

[@brianpryor9624]

Wonderful discussion!

[@amhenotepakkardius5504]

Time England returned to the Mother church if it is to preserve England's best traditions.

[@theglanconer6463]

Good brave man ! With the departure of bishop Michael the last Christian left the Church of England (in the top). I don't understand why the dwindling handful of Anglicans keep on legitimizing this woke/islamism appeasing madness.

[@visionlandmusic]

Should be disestablished and disbanded. They are corrupted and doing Satan's work in plain sight, protected by the establishment it was supposed to guide into truth!

[@hughjames3647]

Imagine watching this video with a Nigel Farage ad at the start. Well, I did..

[@elizabethkellett5688]

Need a leader that fights to keep Christianity it's vanishing

[@joelcardoso3617]

A pleasant interview to Father Michael Nazir-Ali well conducted by Mr Farage.

[@markmarley2556]

"On urgent moral questions....there is no neutrality" This is why Michael has has gone to Rome. Rome is unapologetic as to what she believes, the COE is embarrassed by it's historic beliefs.

[@Bullcutter]

@@witssen9954 You sound like a extreme fringe Protestant with deeply prejudiced views.

[@shamster7182]

i can't believe Welby has allowed this. He is a national disgrace.

[@vickytheodorides]

Why??????? Because he’s returning to the true faith of Jesus Christ???? After all wasn’t it Henry VIII that invented the Church of England?????? So what’s wrong with going back to the truth Many many Anglicans are returning to Catholicism 10% of Catholics clergy are ex Anglicans.... God bless him ... wellcome home 🙏🏻✝️

[@shamster7182]

@@vickytheodorides i meant I can't believe Welby had allowed the church of England to bend the knee to Critical race theory. Welby is a disgrace , I would have hoped he would have sought to keep man treating each other as brother/sister rather than demonising one or the other , using theories created by anti religious Marxists.

[@andybray9791]

We need more like you, we have slipped into neo Bolshevism for quite a number of years now

[@GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa]

Now that's a proper churchman. So few about these days. Most are too busy figuring out how to appease evil without making it too obvious. "Not all those who say 'Lord, Lord' ... "

[@Ar-Rahman61]

The Church of England lost its way when they ordained women. Now they can’t decide what gender God is? Bishop Michael is a loss to them indeed.

[@DIBBY40]

Maybe England will return to its Catholic roots. Who knows.

[@ChinskiChat]

Brilliant. Next Arch Bishop of Canterbury AND Pope.

[@markdennis930]

Amen.

[@nigel.w]

I hope the Catholic Church quickly makes this man a bishop. I'm not an Anglican or a Christian, but I was impressed by him. The world needs to hear people like this. Even the Catholic Church has gone somewhat Woke, and needs to be informed by more people like him. What the world desperately needs is more voices of reason. And the Church needs to stand up for the Gospel. I'm sure it's possible to be fairly Woke on the one hand, and stand up for traditional values on the other. It's about standing for balance, reason and free speech, and against cancel culture. Standing up for the rights of women and minorities should not come at the expense of the rights of everyone else. Live and let live shouldn't come at the expense of championing traditional values. Standing up for the environment shouldn't mean subscribing to climate alarmism. Standing up for trans rights shouldn't mean supporting practices that can harm children. Standing up for freedom of religion and racial equality should not mean supporting the literal demonization of white people and refusing to take a stand against Isalmic extremism and fundamentalism, including the likes of grooming gangs. The Church should be able to take the lead in reasoned debate about all the issues of the day and bring balance. It should be a force to bring society together and resist the attempted neo-Marxist divisiveness and disruption in our society, and destruction of our civilization.

[@aeneas6458]

Michael Nazir-Ali has not yet been ordained as a Catholic priest, although it is reported that this is likely to happen fairly soon. Unfortunately, he will not be able to be consecrated as a bishop, since he is married. The Catholic Church, in common with the Orthodox Church, bars married men from becoming bishops.

[@nigel.w]

@@aeneas6458 Thanks. I knew he hadn't yet been ordained in the Catholic Church. I understand he is to be ordained as a priest this month, so must be in the next few days. I did not know that he couldn't become a bishop because he is married. I had assumed these new Anglican orders allowed it. I think that's a little sad. Still, I'm sure he'll be happier and better off in an environment where his beliefs aren't so compromised.

[@parachute5274]

My favourite clergyman by far. A loss to the C of E.

[@danarose6314]

On with Nigel says a lot about the man.

[@Crazycheesey]

Based

[@sooky2253]

Sorry, what does 'based' mean? Did you mean biased? Or debased? For instance, a story based on a lie is generally called a narrative...

[@SoundtheTrumpet2023]

I think that he didn’t have the courage to stay in the CofE and fight! The Anglo-Catholic branch of the CofE is alive and well. They need good, godly, faithful Priests to carry out God’s mission in the UK.

[@Howiehow]

I don’t agree with the first bit about them being forced to be isolated, , white or Christians don’t force people where to live, they choose to live with their own just like Brits tend to do when they go live In Spain and I’ve never heard of Brits carrying out terrorism there

[@graemewight2975]

30 YRS TIME. MAXIMUM LIFE SUPPORT FOR THEM. FORCED ASSISTED DYING FOR US. IMAGINE THAT.

[@Jack-fs2im]

Yes we burn over 200,000 Aborted unwanted babies every year Now they want a “Shipmans Law” to help the sick and elderly to bump themselves off

[@danielw5850]

The Anglican and Catholic churches' conduct, during the pandemic was shameful - "Missing in inaction"!

[@andypidsley2688]

At a national level yes, at a local level no. Many churches we out caring for their communities keeping in touch and running food banks. Sorry if that wasn’t your experience.

[@danielw5850]

@@andypidsley2688 Thank you, Andy; I'm afraid it wasn't, in my local experience :(

[@robhoran72]

@@andypidsley2688 the role of the Church isn't running food banks.

[@andypidsley2688]

@@robhoran72 agreed it was jus a quick example

[@johnflorio3052]

A modern day version of Cardinal Newman!

[@MsHburnett]

Fortunately he's now a catholic priest and still working in his former diosisese

[@augustvonmacksen2526]

Welcome home, Dr. Nazir-Ali! You will continue to do great things for God and his church I’m sure.

[@elkpaz560]

What a sad loss to the true Church of England and with the loss of the Anglican Church to England. I'd like to hear more from him on church matters - particularly what the church should be pronouncing on. Unfortunately, the next monarch has already embraced Islam more than Anglicanism.

[@elkpaz560]

@@numap4701 The CoE that dealt with Christianity rather than Critical race theory and sought to interfere in politics.

[@MikeyJMJ]

@@elkpaz560 The CofE was a failed project that exists now only in the spectrum of female and lesbian clergy. The anglican church was swept away with the new age because its foundations are not scriptural. (Not founded by Christ)

[@elkpaz560]

@@MikeyJMJ Are you RC? Like the EU who will never forget Brexit. Where was the scriptural foundation for the Romanisation of Christianity?

[@davidgreenwood5241]

Well we know who’s doing the isolation

[@johnmitchell2269]

Enforced multiculturalism that nobody asked for, leads to segregation and division, which leads to radicalised extreme individuals. A bigger issue though, is that we haven't had proper National Security for decades! The foreign office are a joke. Somalia and Libya are two of the most dangerous countries on the planet. Yet we have Somalians and Libyans who hate Europe living in England. Poland, Serbia, Hungary, Australia, New Zealand and Japan don't have these issues. They actually take National Security seriously.

[@CJCappella]

Let’s face it. This man has supported the exclusive brethren. An organisation that has been at the centre of causing trauma to its adherents… His sense of judgement is superficial. Good luck!

[@iainrae6159]

Barely 1% of the UK of the population attend church and most certainly don't require religious clerics for 'moral guidance' .

[@Morningstar-xz5bl]

And look where that has got us an insane asylum

[@iainrae6159]

@@Morningstar-xz5bl Thankyou for your comment. Secular countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Holland where they have freedom of religion are surely better places to live in than religious theocratic countries. Even many in the C of E wish the church to be dis established and end unelected Bishops in the house of Lords.

[@stephenglasse9756]

@@iainrae6159 I think the Bishop was talking about those who do attend church. He was answering the question what has gone so wrong with the c of e that you felt the need to leave?

[@robhoran72]

No one sensible requires moral guidance from religious clerics...the guidance comes from the gospel. They go to hear about Jesus Christ.

[@drivesafely12]

What an interesting man!

[@Bornnotmade]

Father Micheal have made a great step because Church of England is a week church and have no ground to stand on smart step by a smart man

[@peterhellier4977]

Nigel, we have an Anglican Bishop here in Newcastle NSW Australia that has divided us here in the Newcastle area with Woke nature. The latest is He has made it known that anyone turning up at his church 'Christ church Cathedral Newcastle NSW' without double jab...he will call the police and have them removed. This reminds me of Martin Luther's battle with the Catholic church when everyone out side the buildings of the church were starving and sick but inside their institutions were furnished with gold and they locked the doors. We in NSW have just come out of lockdown and many now suffer from mental illness and they 'LOCK THE DOORS TO THEM?'

[@MikeyJMJ]

The anglican church has 0 basis for existence

[@ginterka381996]

Thanks to God that he converted to catholicism. 🙏😇

[@ginterka381996]

@a basketboy 🤦‍♀️

[@hanmirz4803]

@a basketboy , the Holy Apostolic Catholic Church is the true Church. The early Church fathers were Catholics. Holy Bible was preserved by the Catholic Church with 73 Books for 1500 years. Till heretic martin luther appeared to the scene and removed 6 books. There are 266 popes from Saint Peter to Pope Francis with uninterrupted chains.

[@hanmirz4803]

@a basketboy , your very protestantism was stared by the heretic martin luther. The very fact that you expunged 6 precious books from Holy Bible( from 73 to 66) indicate that you are a follower of martin luther , despite the denial. The Holy Bible translated by Saint Jerome under the commission of Pope Damasus in the 4th century contained all the 73 books in Scriptures. By the way, Holy Bible is a Catholic book. And there’s no salvation outside the Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. Showing respect and honor to the Blessed Mother Virgin Mary is commendable as evidenced in Book of Saint Luke chaper 1 verse 26 onwards. The Holy Spirit greeted our Blessed Mother in such a respectful way, and She herself said: “ All generations will call be blessed”. It’s recorded. The Catholic is right all the time. Amazing. Lord Jesus Christ bless you with discernment. Amen

[@hanmirz4803]

@a basketboy , Gary Michuta, “Case for the Deuterocanon”, had discussed this extensively on the Deuterocanons that you protestants misleadingly labeled as apocrypha. The Jewish Canon was established exclusively to deny the Messiah and many of the Deuterocanons contained the prophecies of the advent of Messiah. You are missing a lot of pearls with the absence of Deuterocanons. Blessed Mother Virgin Mary is Queen of Heaven, as in Book Of Relevation( 12:1-2), and her intercession is sought after. All the Apostolic Churches such as Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic Church, Ethiopian Church, Armenian Church, Assyrian Church of the East honored Blessed Mother Virgin Mary and revere her. You are confused between adoration that is exclusively for Lord God the Father , Son and Holy Spirit which is Latria, and the reverence showed to Blessed Mother and Saints, which is Dulia. The unanimous consensus for 1500 years of Christianity was to exhibit deep love and respect to the Mother of God, the Holy Theotokos, till heretics the like of martin luther, john calvin, zwinglii, etc appears into the scene. It was the Catholic Church who relentlessly preserved the Holy Bible in its entirety by enduring the persecutions and oppressions in the first 300 years of history of Christianity. Sorry, protestantism never will ever get any credit on that. The Holy Apostolic Catholic Church, still standing then, and still standing today. The defender of Catholic Christians were always Catholic Church , history is in the open. Go and study objectively, instead of listening to your anti - Catholic inflammatory protestant pastors whose smattering knowledge can’t even be compared with Catholic Church fathers such as Saint Augustine, Justin Martyr, Saint Jerome, Ireaneus, Saint Athanasius, etc.

[@hanmirz4803]

@a basketboy , this is not the platform to discuss something so extensive, and i am not here to spoon feed. Earlier in the discussion, i had pointed out a scholar , Gary Michuta, u can purchase and read his books which answers your question. It’s your protestantism that provide free ammo to those who criticize Christians by removing 6 books despite for at least 1500 years, the 73 Books were the standards unanimous consensus. The Catholic Church is the true Church, comprising traditions from Apostles and compiled the Holy Bible for you and me, either you like it or not.

[@farooqhaider2970]

Two people Four faces. Two faces each.

[@paullacey748]

Quote, “There is no Radical Islam, there is only Islam”. Recip Erdogan

[@KGS922]

Recip isn't the best person to ask.

[@IssacharGR]

The C of E...is not the church.... The church is 'the body of Christ'..and there is only one....One, born again, spiritual community that transcends all religious frameworks. Institutional frameworks tend to constrain the people of God. It was institutional religion that put Jesus on the cross. Sadly the C of E has lost its way...and like many institutions that are not well run it will become increasingly dysfunctional and irrelevant.

[@IssacharGR]

@Totus Tuus If you knew much about what Jesus said about church...and how he organised it...You'd realise how silly your comment is...I have spent 45 years in international, Christian publishing....let me point out there was nothing institutional about Jesus. And in his terms there is only one church... I challenge you to give any evidence to the contrary.

[@IssacharGR]

​@Totus Tuus Thanks for your reply... There appears to be three main expressions of institutional church...Orthodox...Catholic and Protestant... Do you agree with me...and the Bible...that God only has one church (described as his body)? Are you saying that only the Catholics are the church...only Catholics are Christian? Are all members of the Catholic church - Christian? Can you be a Christian - outside of the Catholic Church? In your terms what constitutes a Christian?

[@evolassunglasses4673]

I find people are looking at Othodox Christianity more.

[@rah1721]

What a pity he got so frustrated with the CofE that he left. I cannot fault him on those grounds but I do fault him theologically. I fear he has made a decision he will regret theologically.

[@jimmys6566]

Theologically unsound? No way because the CofE is founded on schism, on divorce and the murder by Henry Vlll of many people. It stopped preaching the Gospel in 1930

[@vickytheodorides]

@@jimmys6566 exactly ...

[@rah1721]

@@jimmys6566 It's doctrine as tabled in the 39 Articles of Religion marks it as sound. Whether people including the clergy do not hold to that is another story. The Roman Church teach a very different pattern of salvation including progressive grace, sacrifice of the mass, indulgences and purgatory which the reformed find repugnant and an insult to the finished work of Christ on the cross.

[@jimmys6566]

@@rah1721 you are obviously an intelligent person so please confront and own what the C of E is; founded on schism, on divorce and the murder by Henry Vlll of many people amn what of his wives whose fate was 'divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived'; It stopped preaching the Gospel in 1930 when it approved contraception. Your list of assertions is a mere offensive blancmange thrown at the one church Jesus started in order to conceal the error of the C of E

[@rah1721]

@@jimmys6566 but wasn't a prostitute in the line of Christ? Yes, the CofE had horrific beginnings but I find the doctrine to be wholly acceptable and believe the Lord works his wonders out of tragedy and sin; I don't find the Roman doctrine to be acceptable. That's all I am concerned about. I believe he has sold out on his former convictions and is in error. Every church needs to renew itself and the CofE has become so liberal it has lost the Gospel in many places. However! Does the Lord not work through a remnant? I believe there to be a remnant in the Roman church too. I just don't accept certain Romish doctrine nor do I accept the way Roman Catholic believers treat others baptised in the name of the Trinity as second class citizens, barred from communion etc. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[@satyannair4837]

I don't understand. The Catholic Church has made provisions for married priests from the Anglican and Episcopalian faiths to continue serving as priests in the Catholic fold. So, why isn't he a priest anymore? Am I missing something here?

[@marahbadrian]

He has been ordained as a Catholic priest on October 31st AFAIK.

[@satyannair4837]

@@marahbadrian Oh, that would mean after this chat with Nigel. I see. Thanks for the update. He was being addressed as Michael, and that left me confused.

[@eltinmccarthy2469]

Nigel please help me divert them to my ' Thermal underwear rebellion " They will be required to stay at home in thermal underwear with everything powered off. There is no need to irritate people simply show us how wonderful you are from the safety of your blackedout tv room. Thermal underwear rebellion!!! well show em

[@theoldpaths644]

Although Mr Nazir-Ali seems like a man of integrity, I'm afraid to say that both the church of England and the Roman catholic church are miles away from true Biblical christianity. Both of these churches have departed from Gods Word, therefore they cannot be classed as true churches of Jesus Christ.

[@MikeyJMJ]

You spout pure hogwash. The first Christians who learned directly from the Apostles were Catholic in practice. You my friend, follow the 500 year old doctrines of men. Heresy.

[@theoldpaths644]

@@MikeyJMJ You sir - follow the pope who is a sinner, just like you and I by nature. I follow Jesus Christ the only Saviour of sinners who said in John 3:3- “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Mr Klopp I do not wish to argue with you, but I do mean to ask you this question - How is it with your soul? Being part of any church or denomination cannot save you. What assurance will you have when you breath your last breath?

[@hanmirz4803]

The Holy Apostolic Catholic Church is the true Church.

[@theoldpaths644]

@@hanmirz4803 By that, I think you're referring to the Roman Catholic Church. Like I said above, the Roman Catholic Church - DOES NOT - follow the words of either The Lord Jesus Christ or the apostles doctrine, this is evident by anyone who studies its bloody history. it is therefore an apostate church. Only those churches that have Jesus Christ as their Head and not man (ie - Pope) are true churches - as "there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - 1 Tim 2:5. Mr Mirz I do care for your soul and therefore ask the question - do you have assurance of Gods salvation? If so, what is your assurance?

[@hanmirz4803]

@@theoldpaths644 The Holy Apostolic Catholic Church is the true Church, and there’s no salvation outside the Catholic Church. All the Church fathers were Catholics, and that’s evidenced by their writings. Holy Bible is a Catholic book, and Saint Jerome under the instructions of Pope Damasus in 4th century AD translated the Holy Bible into Vulgar Latin, which contains all the 73 Books. And now your version lacking 6 Books. Lord Jesus Christ bless you with discernment. Amen.

[@cliffjamesmusic]

What interests me are the values we want to live by, not the supposed legitimacy of the interpretation of stories told a few thousand years ago. Moderate Believers of Christianity, Islam and Judaism can obviously get on well, living by the moderate aspects within their religions, rooted in the same basic stories. However, given the contradictions and dubious values expressed in compilations such as the Bible, Torah and Quran, I believe we could do better in developing codes of conduct built on love, respect and fairness. This would help avoid the possibility of Believers using their Belief to justify doing bad things. Non-Believers doing nasty things would automatically be covered by such a code of conduct.

[@stephenmoore9569]

Clued up

[@mr.coolmug3181]

With all due respect to the former Anglican Bishop, isn't the problem with his former church, and his present church, and in fact all churches this: that the word 'God' never seems to pass their lips? Not once did Michael mention God. Churchmen are too concerned with internal church politics and intra-church politics. They're too busy trying to either save their dying churches, or too busy trying to bring these dying churches together into some vague and wistful ecumenical unity. But the whole point of the Christian faith is God. No one cares about God, that's the problem.

[@AdamRTNewman]

Will Michael Nazir-Ali be engaging in Mariolatry now?

[@Basaljet]

What is that?

[@AdamRTNewman]

@@Basaljet Idolatry of Mary

[@QuantumTribble]

Ignorant comment, Adam. No Catholic worships Mary, its a fallacy.

[@MikeyJMJ]

@@AdamRTNewman Do you know what idolatry is?

[@zr3755]

Yeah. Shame. The Anglican church needs to shape up so it doesn't lose good men like the former Bishop to Rome's falsehoods

[@roybeattie296]

There is no god ...........Just beleave in Humanity................they ALL have a GOOD life Preaching there beleave

[@Jack-fs2im]

The Book of Genesis is proven science.Aetheists have been mankinds biggest killers Hitler,Stalin,Mao.Pol Pot.Mengele killing over 200m

[@mortuaryartist]

Is that what you do, change religion at the drop of a hat

[@Morningstar-xz5bl]

Your ancestors were all Catholics, but flipped for whatever reason maybe coercion or fear or whatever he is only returning to the one true faith. God bless him

[@stephenglasse9756]

Well it's a bit weird that he's moved to catholicism since you would have thought evangelicalism would make more sense. However he no doubt still holds the same doctrinal beliefs and as he said the church that he's joining uses the anglican formula more than the c of e does.

[@stephenglasse9756]

@J. Lewis but would Nazir Ali affirm doctrines like transubstantiation, praying to the saints, celibacy of the priesthood, salvation by works inspired by grace, and the equality of tradition with scripture?

[@stephenglasse9756]

@J. Lewis no that's not what I want to know since he answered that question. What I want to know is has Nazir Ali suddenly come to accept a whole raft of (very significant) doctrines that he didn't hold to before or is holding those doctrines not required for him in the same way as celibacy is not required? Obviously there's no logic in moving from a rejection of RC doctrines to an acceptance of RC doctrines BECAUSE the c of e failed to (a) argue for churches to remain open and (b) stand for moral principles.

[@soniavadnjal7553]

Drop of a hat? Look at his grey hair. This was a long time coming, I guess the clincher was the clearly deliberate non - guidance of C of E clergy.

[@a.hoctavius5848]

He was upset with the Church of England … so he joined the Catholic Church 😭😭😭 what a knob

[@mrlolmaster1019]

bruh what are you talkking about CoE is a rainbow clown show like the the police, the real state religion in the uk is the nhs Justin Welby makes Pope Francis look Traditional Conservative, CoE is cringe af

[@rosemaryhowes8047]

I don't blame him, I feel like doing the same thing, what does the C of E stand for these days?!!!

[@ChemicalOly]

Dumb response. It's like saying join the Conservative party when they no longer hold conservative values!

[@Morningstar-xz5bl]

@@ChemicalOly Catholic Church was founded by Christ. Luther lied to the people when he broke away as did Henry 8th.

[@mrlolmaster1019]

@@ChemicalOly say what you will about comrade francis doesnt sacrifice the church to the altar of wokery allow gay marriage, abortion, divorce, women being priests, i see the CoE and all i see is the church following British Government guidelines, that is gay and woke, do not be suprised if they paint CoE churches the colour of the rainbow like they do to police cars, the police which also is very gay and woke

[@mattuk56]

Keep all religious views out of Politics.

[@sooky2253]

That's what Marxism wants, and that's the way countries are going. Doesn't work though, because values end up perverted.

[@monsieurpoisson8163]

@Bluepurgatory1 Exactly. Both should stay out of each other. Religion and Politics should never mix

[@zr3755]

Base political decisions on God's Law and the Truth of Jesus Christ

[@pemberton6974]

Brexit shit hit the fans 🙄 👏

[@Jack-fs2im]

Brexit got us the Vax and freedom months before Europe.We have also stopped live animal exports .Brexit is only 10mnths old and is great

[@pemberton6974]

@@Jack-fs2im, I advise you to stand in front of a mirror, read your comment again and ask yourself these questions: 1. Why still believe in this vax lie? " after all this lie is already debunked. 2. What freedom day really mean? 3. How 🤔 do I manage to live with myself?

[@Jack-fs2im]

@@pemberton6974 Its not a lie,you must stop talking rubbish,yr sick and away with the flat earthers and lizard people.You have given no evidence or link.I say yr just making stuff up and are sicko.I have had both jabs in Jan .you must seek help

[@Jack-fs2im]

We have lowest unemployment,house prices and stock exchange booming.Stopped free movement of organised crime.There is more good brexit stuff to come.Clap for Brexit

[@Jack-fs2im]

I have a councillor,a council,an MP,a mayor an assembly,A parliament.A house if Lords.Why would I want a great big EU lump on my back as well