Door to Nothingness has the most metal flavor text: "All memory of your existence will be wiped from reality. You will die, and no one will mourn."
@Alikaoz5 жыл бұрын
It's a Mirran card, it's pure metal
@lucaseduardoferreira90155 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Friedman is it "Only a mad man would build It. Only a idiot would open it."?
@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
@@lucaseduardoferreira9015 yes.
3 жыл бұрын
I will argue that this is even more metal: scryfall.com/card/uma/32/reya-dawnbringer
@blackknightjack38503 жыл бұрын
@@lucaseduardoferreira9015 Honestly I like the Memnarch quote even better
@AidanWR5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: an official ruling for Battle of Wits is that your deck must be able to be shuffled in a reasonable amount of time
@Lovuschka5 жыл бұрын
Actually that is a ruling for every deck. It just mostly affects decks with Battle of Wits.
@mutedonkey83615 жыл бұрын
You only have to shuffle 2 and a half edh decks soooooo 😵
@Lovuschka5 жыл бұрын
@@kaderdoo In real life.
@stigmaoftherose5 жыл бұрын
How I shuffle my decks: press R and let Table top simulator shuffle for me.
4 жыл бұрын
@@stigmaoftherose Now that you mention that, I wonder if the official rules about deck size are modified in online/PC versions of MTG
@thomaspalmer28285 жыл бұрын
It's OK Simic Ascendancy, I still love you.
@Driftbloondream5 жыл бұрын
The active is good when paired with sharktocrab, tap target creature for two combat rounds for 3 mana.
@Vario695 жыл бұрын
😢
@skyguy7135 жыл бұрын
Just gotta take it to the top
@joeyg75205 жыл бұрын
Rudy Wagner also hydras growth
@angelalex69443 жыл бұрын
Helix pinnacle
@overlordmogg91035 жыл бұрын
The best one is The Cheese Stands Alone
@dyciefisk25355 жыл бұрын
If anyone asks, just say "it's actually Barren Glory" just so long as you don't also have Barren Glory in there. Nobody should really argue with that
@Lovuschka5 жыл бұрын
@@dyciefisk2535 It's an incredible way to win flavor-wise. Really glad they un-un-ed it, to speak so, by functionally reprinting it in a legal set.
@christmas66665 жыл бұрын
YES
@stilljustsoph6645 жыл бұрын
@@dyciefisk2535 An important distinction to make, they're not exactly the same, The Cheese Stands Alone is strictly better due to triggering not just on your upkeep.
@chad91135 жыл бұрын
Lol.. Is that unglued expansion card,.?
@TheShinyFeraligatr5 жыл бұрын
Awe, Nizzahon, you never even mentioned the name of the deck that topped with Door to Nothingness when that was the best part! Who can hate a deck called Omnidoor Thragfire?
@oliverdanckert54075 жыл бұрын
Approach of the second sun is so fun to play with! You draw cards and the clock ticks down. Tick tock, kill me soon...
@Devilish4205 жыл бұрын
If you have black and white in the deck you can always play a tutor card after casting approach the first time to speed up the process of your victory. 😎
@Ceracio5 жыл бұрын
On MTGA closed Beta I played against one of the most janky and yet satisfying combo decks I've ever lost to. The guy hard-cast Omniscience, then cast 2 copies of Mastermind's Acquisition, fetching and playing Lich's Mastery from his deck and then Approach of the Second Sun from his sideboard. The Gain 7 life clause on Approach gave him the 7 card draw required to redraw it, and re-cast it. Mad I tell you!
@BrotherAlpha5 жыл бұрын
@@Ceracio I hate that card, because too many times my opponent's main win con was play slowly enough to get people to rage quit.
@benpeterson46734 жыл бұрын
...Tick tock, it's high noon.
@DarksteelHeart4 жыл бұрын
Unless you combine ot with Alhammaret's Archive. With a little blue draw.
@JalebJay5 жыл бұрын
Thassa's Oracle might take away Lab Maniac's insta win in majority of cases.
@Ninjamanhammer5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I doubt we'll see much of Lab Man anymore.
@alecazam67555 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjamanhammer unless oracle gets banned
@Ninjamanhammer5 жыл бұрын
In pioneer maybe.
@XavierKaziTheZombie5 жыл бұрын
Why would they ban Oracle?
@Ninjamanhammer5 жыл бұрын
@Najawin Are you high? My comment: "Yeah I doubt we'll see much of Lab Man anymore."
@fidly45 жыл бұрын
If we define "alternate win condition" as winning without milling your opponent or getting their life total to zero, as you did at the beginning, then I think the number one is glistener elf lol.
@Vario695 жыл бұрын
Number one is roping your opponent into rage quitting the arena 🤸
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor5 жыл бұрын
You know, the single greatest win condition ever is doing "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)". Not only would you win the game, but you'd win my ultimate cudos. Also, this was going to be one of my backup suggestions once you did Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9).
@exaroc5715 жыл бұрын
ancestral recall is nr2 with 622 points, score seen in top instants. then come black lotus with probably the highest score ever (every vintage deck ever). time spiral is probably nr 9. twister 8. then come moxes, with pearl at 7th, emerald 6th, ruby 5th, jet 4th and sapphire 3rd.
@Ninjamanhammer5 жыл бұрын
Black Lotus isn't played in every vintage deck. Dredge doesn't play it.
@imperium35565 жыл бұрын
@@exaroc571 None of those would be on the list because they're power 9...
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor5 жыл бұрын
@Najawin "Top 10 cards based only on their points earned in vintage (minus power 9)" is my preferred definition. Although a "Top 10 cards only legal in Vintage (minus power 9)" would also work.
@HaydenX5 жыл бұрын
I thought Laboratory Maniac would be number 2 or 3 for sure. I had some Modern tournament success with it myself in a mono-U devotion Omnipotence deck.
@the_artless4 жыл бұрын
Both vraskas are not played as alter-win con. Maniac is actually 3rd.
@Reliquancy5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I’ve only been playing a couple years but Bolas, Vraska, Jace, and Thrassa’s oracle have all been around since then so I thought alternate win conditions were a lot more common than just 38 in the whole history of the game...
@quint3ssent1a3 жыл бұрын
Earlier alternate wincons were wacky and hard to pull off, now it's more balls to the wall in terms of power. When you present something like Nicol 🅱️olas, your opponent knows that he should do something right now, or he loses.
@l0ker5075 жыл бұрын
Have you done a list of cards that let you search and remove cards from an opponent's library, like "unmoored ego" as a recent example? That could be a neat video.
@gisone64034 жыл бұрын
Black is definitely great for that.
@Milkybetrayal4 жыл бұрын
Lobotomy
@MrPitki3 жыл бұрын
I discovered these top 10s recently and I became addicted. + Sub + like, thanks for your quality content.
@NizzahonMagic3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@aritzmartinezrodriguez18255 жыл бұрын
I would have loved that at least you mention to mill since a full deck based on an alternate win con.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Mill isn't alternate though, since it is written into the game's rules. That said, I did a whole top 10 on mill already.
@ToddPataky3 жыл бұрын
I never competed with it, but I did create a self-mill deck around Laboratory Maniac. The look on my friends' faces when I started milling myself and then put the Maniac out (I hadn't told them the premise of the deck) was classic
@Narthas955 жыл бұрын
I think ,if you want to show to a friend the gameplay diversity of Magic,it's probably one of the best video to show.
@arnior83655 жыл бұрын
Wow, Thassa’s Oracle really shot up to the top. This was a good one, most of these are EDH favorites.
@jaxsonbateman3 жыл бұрын
I love Approach of the Second Sun. For a fun fact - the first Approach you cast doesn't have to resolve, so depending on your deck makeup (or if you make your deck with this in mind) you can actually counter your own spell, putting it into your graveyard and making it easier to cast the second time. Hell, depending on your format you could even use Narset's Reversal, Unsubstantiate or something similar to return the spell to your hand, circumventing the graveyard and library entirely (in the Narset's case you'll also get another 7 life, if that's relevant).
@nickbalmes66405 жыл бұрын
Approach of the Second Sun is my pet favorite. It was my win-con back in Amonkhet standard and an alternate win-con in my Arcades defender deck. ☀️🌞
@Earthboundmike4 жыл бұрын
Door to nothingness is gonna be in my sliver deck when I finish building that. It amuses me.
@benjamincardenas9335 жыл бұрын
I remember watching someone playing battle of wits at my local game store last month. It prerty much had 30 fetch lands, 40 shock lands all tutor in modern and every two card combo. It did really well against any non aggressive or blood moon decks. It always seem to pull out primal titan every other game which was usually enough to win the game in two or so turns.
@spagandhi4 жыл бұрын
I’d have to say that revel in riches is my favorite card, notably for commander where you can win without doing anything as your foes beat eachother
@faestorm55255 жыл бұрын
Now to put all of these in a single EDH deck.
@Rancher.Rancher5 жыл бұрын
Except Battle of Wits as EDH wont allow more than 99 in the mainboard.
@BlakeFaeMorton5 жыл бұрын
@@Rancher.Rancher It is sacrifice fodder to Vraska.
@corydharma5 жыл бұрын
Need a 5 color commander, splash red and green. Could be done for sure. Would like to see a deck list
@zyibesixdouze48635 жыл бұрын
@@corydharma Golos as commander, it has 5-C identity and draws cards with free casting, if you have one mana of each colour plus two.
@mightybatillo5 жыл бұрын
2:07 "Challenging to shuffle that deck" lmao, you would get strong arms after playing with that deck.
@Lovuschka5 жыл бұрын
Sad that the Painter Combo isn't in it (Grindstone + Painter's Servant). There is a reason why your lands never should have a color themselves (they are colorless even if they produce colored mana, for those who are new to the game - Painter's Servant gives each card a color, and Grindstone mills two cards plus two more if they shared a color, plus two more if they shared a color ad infinitum - meaning that Grindstone will mill the entire deck if all cards share the same color).
@Ceracio5 жыл бұрын
Upvoted just for having explained the combo/rules to new players.
@Lovuschka5 жыл бұрын
@@Ceracio Thank you. If you have questions about it, feel free to ask.
@Ceracio5 жыл бұрын
@@Lovuschka Oh no, I've been playing since Mirrodin block, and I'm a bit of a rules nazi, but as a person who often recommends MTG channels to new players, I appreciate that you thought to explain for them.
@tonythepokemonguy7515 жыл бұрын
The en-kor line is my favorite forgotten gimmick
@snowboundwhale68604 жыл бұрын
Surprised Infect wasn't included as an alt. win, though I guess you were going for specific cards and not a mechanic. Laboratory Maniac pairs decently with Mirror-Mad Phantasm if you don't care to use your deck, since it can pay 1U to shuffle itself back, then mill until you reach it and play it for free.
@MarcusTiedemann5 жыл бұрын
I missed out on the early Mirror Universe, because it didn´t do damage but switcht live, and was able to do this in responce to going to zero life. It was played in "Weissman"-type Decks as one of 3-4 Winconditions. I remember Mirror Universe, Braingeysir, Serra Angel, Fireball/Kaerveks Torch being played in such Decks. First of his kind was the infamous Weißman-Deck or "The Deck" (google) featuring the power Nine, Tutor, Regroth, Wheel o. F. ... It was played with heavy Counterspells/Mana Drain and removal like Balance/Wrath of God, Swords to Plowshares, Disentchant.. In the Time the Lifeswitch was not considered Damage or Lose of Life. In my Eyes clearly an alternate win Condition.
@3irc6015 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how many alternate win conditions there are in standard until watching this video
@mrsoneji3 жыл бұрын
Near Death Experiencie is another good one. At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have exactly 1 life, you win the game.
@goingrogue22363 жыл бұрын
I enjoy happily ever after. And had a mono-blue deck that won with thassa's oracle as an alternate wincon...most people just scooped to that deck.
@TheKnightguard13 жыл бұрын
My favorite alternate win condition is holding up Hidetsugu's Second Rite when they're at ten life, cast with mana generated by Boseiju, Who Shelters All.
@NorNamor5 жыл бұрын
Did you froget Infect? Or does that just count as a "normal" win condition?
@c.jhamblin57595 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards that did well and then dropped of the face of the earth?
@Devilish4205 жыл бұрын
I see plenty of ppl playing approach in EDH. It can be some busted shit in that format no doubt.
@fidly45 жыл бұрын
I think he was making a video request, not poking fun at the cards in this video.
@Devilish4205 жыл бұрын
@@fidly4 oh, I didn't even consider that. My face is red, lol, BTW I could have sworn I've seen you comment on some MTG Muddstah vids too.
@princequincy54215 жыл бұрын
Hollow One
@lorekeeper6855 жыл бұрын
Black lotus who usez that anyways
@keiharris3322 жыл бұрын
Mazes end is about to gain a ton of points with the new card that makes all land you own be considered basic land
@Jimmyjam-ey3vs3 жыл бұрын
Another one that I have a deck for is based off Revel In Riches, where if you have ten or more treasure tokens on your upkeep you win the game so I have a Rakdos pirate deck based off of it and I’ve won off it one time
@brianramirez22215 жыл бұрын
Didn’t make the list but Felidar Sovereign is one of my win cons for my life gain deck my second being Aetherflux Reservoir 😛
@DrakonLameth5 жыл бұрын
I've scooped casually on a Vraska, Golgari Queen, in Arena, because the same turn they popped her ulti, they put an unblock-able effect on a 1/1 deathtouch they were sporting as a deterrent for me from punching the gorgon. I conceded before the effect resolved on the stack.
@seanwechsler67834 жыл бұрын
Oh Vraska the Unseen. I ran her in my deathtouch deck. With Rogues Passage her assassin’s can’t be stopped.
@Happy_Tunafish4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the most dangerous alternate Win Con is the scoop that you take after your friend has Path to Exile'd you like four times in one game
@remigusker5 жыл бұрын
My favorite flavor win. The Bolas + Elderspell combo.
@TrumpLester4 жыл бұрын
I played against a handmade Maze's End deck several years ago. The only reason I gave the guy a run for his money was the precon Dimir deck I pulled from Gatecrash.
@Finngrinder4 жыл бұрын
the existence of Oracle and LED singlehandedly broke Breach in Legacy to no one's surprise
@shuboy054 жыл бұрын
What about Azor's Elocutors? It's a talk for five turns to win card.
@imperium35565 жыл бұрын
Turns out a two-mana card which immediately wins the game when you play it is pretty good. Who would have thought!!?
@zyvan31795 жыл бұрын
Alternate win cons are my favorite way to win. It's just so much more satisfying than hitting your opponent until they die and laboratory maniac is my favorite of these win cons.
@Milkybetrayal4 жыл бұрын
Combo him with Thought Lash.
@zyvan31794 жыл бұрын
@@Milkybetrayal dont think that ones legal in modern which is the format I play him in. the only "reprinting" we got was for Magic Online which is not a modern legal set. I have him paired with Leveler and Mirror of Fate which essentially do the same thing but are legal
@shadowofseattle13385 жыл бұрын
Vraska golgari queen's sacrifice effect is a *may* clause... Its pretty broken Also top ten infinite combos please 💜
@Breakerone925 жыл бұрын
During XLN standard i played approach alongside sunbirds invocation, i won a few games like that
@JPA55MOR34 жыл бұрын
When up against approach a whole of two times, each time in order to defeat it I've had to resort to blowing up lands enough to where they can't cast it a second time.
@MJVelascoSalvador5 жыл бұрын
Wait.. how does lab maniac work with ad naus? Ad Naus doesn't say "draw a card"...
@jarrod63315 жыл бұрын
Very surprised phage didn't make the list. I would have thought it would have some points.
@filmocide23795 жыл бұрын
RIP Happily Ever After players
@nicholasmays42575 жыл бұрын
All 6 of them
@matigow5 жыл бұрын
Thasa's Oracle ALREADY has 24 points?! How is that even possible?
@matigow5 жыл бұрын
@Najawin I mean. I already faced deck with the oracle, and they surely beated my butt, but how many events have been seen TBD released for it to have that many points so Early on
@Vario695 жыл бұрын
Number one is roping your opponent into rage quitting the arena 🤸
@AidanWR5 жыл бұрын
You said that Vraska's downtick exiles a permanent and 7:52, but it only destroys
@camfunme5 жыл бұрын
So what about Poison cards?
@Wafflelover3444 жыл бұрын
He said Vraska Unseen's other ability exiles a nonland card says on the card Destroy
@davidrosenberg96155 жыл бұрын
What about Hive Mind?
@odstp1tv1pr374 жыл бұрын
My alternate win condition is to “sacrifice enraged battle ox and five dollars to special summon blue eyes white dragon” you can never beat this instant win at any pro tournament.
@irou955 жыл бұрын
Revel in riches control too op, didn't even make the list
@zanderpxl5815 жыл бұрын
unplayable, dies to nægate
@newtreesmell73385 жыл бұрын
loses to negate :(
@jakeapplegate66425 жыл бұрын
If this was the best or most played alt wincons in commander, I think the list might be a little different. Some are just too clunky for standard or modern.
@nicholasmays42575 жыл бұрын
But it doesn’t even do anything!
@Jimmyjam-ey3vs3 жыл бұрын
I’ve won with it twice in my Rakdos Pirate deck
@Divinevert5 жыл бұрын
Was anyone else super confused when he got to #2 and you hadn't seen either Oracle or Jace? I was like "well this video is already outdated" until I saw them just sharing #1. Long term, Thassa's Oracle is going to run laps around the rest of this list, Jace included.
@DCking146825 жыл бұрын
I lost to maze’s end and it was one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played in my life
@andyspendlove10195 жыл бұрын
Wow, is this the quickest that a card (Thassa's Oracle) has reached the number 1 spot in a category?
@LordScrambles5 жыл бұрын
It's soooooooo busted.
@hobez644 жыл бұрын
My favorite Alt Win Condition has to be Thassa's Oracle, I love fighting mill and just playing this to give them the middle finger
@gardeford3 жыл бұрын
surprised to see felidar sovereign not there at all.
@PokeBattlerJaze5 жыл бұрын
I want to say Approach of the Second Sun but with it being the art of the episode, that seems too obvious. Edit: Jesus Christ, those cards have barely been out for a couple of months and already number 1, technically 1 and 2, huh, go figure.
@Jacois5 жыл бұрын
Battle of Wits should be interesting in Arena if it ever becomes standard legal.
@christophertolliver83954 жыл бұрын
What about felidar sovereign?
@NizzahonMagic4 жыл бұрын
No points
@aaron97975 жыл бұрын
i made a Revel in Riches deck i think i won with Approach of the Second Sun and Cruel Reality the most
@jaredt25904 жыл бұрын
That first vraska's insane, just sacrifice 3 lands.
@jackpabich7634 жыл бұрын
Of course someone as talented as Huey made Battle of Wits work... To be fair, it dominates my local FNM every now and then. Alternative wins with scapeshift and such. But still have lost on t5 to on an board Battle of Wits. It's fun
@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
PERSON W/ LAB MANIAC: i mill myself for 8, my library is now 0. ME, AN INTILECTUAL: i bolt your lab maniac.
@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
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@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
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@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
I hate people who like Their own comments
@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too.
@crabobserver3 жыл бұрын
And those who comment their comments.
@thesamuraiman5 жыл бұрын
Where did your name come from?
@Kasigi035 жыл бұрын
Better strategies than the ones offered, Door to Nothingness + Composite Golem, Laboratory Maniac + Leveler (why cast something that costs 12 mana ?!)
@aaronott35725 жыл бұрын
I've got a soft spot for Phage. Multiple alternate win conditions, and plenty of ways to pull it off. Ultimately, though, I'm not surprised she didn't make the list. Too many things have to go right, and in pro play, that seems to be a big no-go.
@MrZer0935 жыл бұрын
As someone who has played other games with more prevalent alternate win conditions, it’s a very slippery slope. Decks built around them tend to play a different game than most decks do and it be just not fun in the slightest if not done carefully. After all, when most decks are built assuming the opponent tries to win via the rules, it can be frustrating when that opponent doesn’t try to win that way but some way else.
@dyciefisk25355 жыл бұрын
For example Hedron Alignment plays like one person trying to solve a puzzle while the staving off the opponent, who acts as a clock and complication to said puzzle. At that point you might not be playing magic anymore.
@a.velderrain88495 жыл бұрын
Your deck therefore shouldn't generally be built to stop your opponent from winning, but rather to make sure YOU win. If you have a deck that can kill your opponent by Turn 4 it doesn't matter if they can complete some win con by Turn 5, you have the advantage.
@jakeapplegate66425 жыл бұрын
A. Velderrain Amen brother!
@MrZer0935 жыл бұрын
It depends. I’m having Exodia flashbacks mostly and those decks stall like crazy by just saying nope to the opponent so often, especially early on. And I am very certain Magic has similar. I mean, Jace and Thassa’s Oracle seem to just like doing stall control until they can hit their win combo. I would assume they have ways to stall out turn 4 wins down to turn 5 or 6 or whatever they need to in order to wait out the game for their own win. Therein lies my point. They don’t need to attack, just play stall. So many decks are made assuming the opponent will actually attack at some point and these same stall decks will also just not let you play either. That’s why it’s frustrating.
@a.velderrain88495 жыл бұрын
@@MrZer093 Dimir Inverter, the top Pioneer deck right now and an alternate wincon deck using Thassa's Oracle and Jace, relies heavily on discard effects like Thoughtseize and creature removal like Drown in the Loch to stall the game out. Indestructible creatures (like the Theros gods or Gideon planeswalkers) can defeat that strategy fairly easily. Arclight Phoenix also seems like a good game plan against that, since making you discard the Phoenix actually helps you out, the deck has tons of redundancy, and Phoenix comes back from being removed way too easily. The more the deck leans in on stall strategies, the less consistently it can get the wincon, and the more turns you typically get to try and win. So decks like Inverter have to prioritize getting a Turn 4 Inverter into Turn 5 Jace or Oracle for the win, and have less slots dedicated to making sure they stop you.
@Devilish4205 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised that Felidar Sovereign didn't make this list, he's basically Test of Endurance as a creature, on top of being decently beefy in power and defense and having vigilance and lifelink. He can easily be tutored for with Wild Pair, a green enchantment with a CMC of 6 (2 green, 2 colorless)that makes it so whenever you cast a creature from your hand and it enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a creature with the same total of power and toughness added up (example: you play avenger of zendikar 5/5, wild pair triggers and you tutor for felidar which is a 4/6 but both of those equal up to 10).
@darkmatter32x5 жыл бұрын
Problem is, it requires a lot of mana to cast, in addition it is a creature, not so hard remove on the board. It good in commander though.
@Devilish4205 жыл бұрын
@@darkmatter32x Well to be fair, enchantments aren't all that hard to remove either. Also, if you have green in your colors you can legit pull it off but yea it mainly is a commander combo though. I just got him for a win con for my Abzan colored Angel token generator deck that has wild pair in it and I also have privileged position and Avacyn Angel of Hope in it too for that indestructible/hexproof double whammy.
@TheSquareOnes5 жыл бұрын
Not knowing the competitive history of either card, I'd assume it has to do with the fact that Test of Endurance had the benefit of existing at a time when it was able to be somewhat successful whereas Felidar Sovereign presumably hasn't been. He said that the Test of Endurance deck that earned the points quickly fell away and the card hasn't made a comeback since, so it could just be that "gain a bunch of life to win the game" is on longer an effect that is likely to gain points in any format even if they print it on cards that you believe to be better than what came before. So if Felidar Sovereign were printed first maybe it would be on the list instead, but it wasn't so it isn't and now neither card is doing much.
@ghostofkrows5 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha Ha. I laugh because while watching this I forgot this was a draft channel and thought I had started watching an Edh video with the cards we are discussing.
@ulrichs.32285 жыл бұрын
Hmm, poison counters seem to be a base rule now, so the generating card doesn't have to provide the rule? (Fond memories of a Scry? Inquest? article of way back when, of people playing with all the cards. Like, literally one of every card that existed at that time. Starting at 100 life and forgetting about poison counters.)
@venkelos95 жыл бұрын
Well, sorry Phage. We knew you wouldn't touch this list, but still I hoped. A couple of creatures I hoped to see, too, like Fedidar Sovereign, and Azorius Elocutors, but I suppose they just haven't been competitive enough, over time. Still, as someone who never builds aggressive decks, and longs to find an alternate win I can actually win with, the list was fun. Just not a big fan of milling myself to oblivion.
@eac-ox2ly4 жыл бұрын
Love Approach of The Second Sun
@hans.m.j5 жыл бұрын
no infect?
@Happy_Tunafish4 жыл бұрын
RIP My boi Hedron Alignment T_T
@TheSPARTANusm5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Atemsis isn’t on the list. One of my favorite alt ways to win.
@TheSPARTANusm5 жыл бұрын
Najawin half of the cards on the list are bad.
@TheSPARTANusm5 жыл бұрын
Najawin well I didn’t play Standard when the aforementioned cards earned all their points so please excuse me while I’m still fairly new to the game. Besides, they’re all meme ways to win. I’m sorry I didn’t do hours of research before triggering you.
@TheSPARTANusm5 жыл бұрын
Najawin I’m not saying they “should have done better.” I said they’re all meme’s in their own right. And the initial comment was geared more towards HOW you win with the card rather than how well its done in a standard format. The means in which you cause a player to lose is what I find fun and an exciting way to kill an opponent rather than life loss, milling or “labman” effects. Appreciate you sharing your expertise.
@TheSPARTANusm5 жыл бұрын
Najawin you’re right. I was talking about it as far as “one of my favorite alt ways to win.” From the standpoint of “alt ways to win.” So if I play edh, which is constructed, I guess it would have been an incorrect statement as I was referring to that specific format and not constructed tournament.
@talentlessbird35725 жыл бұрын
I have approach in a narset, to just double cast it :))
@jaredt25904 жыл бұрын
Laboratory Maniac + Mana Severance + Grindstone.
@GrendelNin5 жыл бұрын
#1 The Big Cheese Stands Alone.
@hey_byte_me24975 жыл бұрын
I've got a friend building an "I win the game" tribal in edh and it's kinda disgusting the kind of combos he's running. Phage+fractured identity, hive mind + all the pacts, and so forth. I don't look forward to helping him playtest it
@raydelmartinez29055 жыл бұрын
Wow two new cards as # 1, impressive .
@yujiro4244 жыл бұрын
I believe Glistener Elf/Blighted Agent should be on this list.
@gregconen5 жыл бұрын
You don't outright contradict this, but your wording might make it unclear that you don't have to sacrifice a permanent to use Vraska, Golgari Queen's +2. Of course, many decks that play her want to take advantage of it, but even when they can't they can still gain 2 loyalty per turn.
@moromir05 жыл бұрын
next do the worst alternate win conditions please. some of them are so hard to pull off
@zchwen5 жыл бұрын
No biovisionary :/ such a weird but cool way to win
@kazuallykunfuzed4 жыл бұрын
Simic Ascendancy and Darksteel Reactor 👈🏻👈🏻😎
@BaronVonCount5 жыл бұрын
I dont think you ever did a top 10 storm cards
@yepperdeedooda5 жыл бұрын
The best is illusions of grandeur.
@dyciefisk25355 жыл бұрын
Doesn't qualify for this list on wording, but a great gut shot in Zedruu
@Mayday20565 жыл бұрын
with doubling season the ultimate is instant
@revenantproxy91004 жыл бұрын
Is something going wrong on my end? How are there only 2 other comments here?
@dihimono5 жыл бұрын
So... I guess it's time for top10 alternate lose conditions?
@chad91135 жыл бұрын
For sure reanimating page the untouchable will be in that list..
@beverlysaylor11155 жыл бұрын
Disagree with your list criteria for this one! Jace the mind sculptor or mind slaver lock seems to be legit alternate win cons to me as well
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Then any combo at all would have to be considered.