No, a Man Should NOT Lead a Woman in Dating

[@joshuacorbin221]

"You want me to pay all yo bills? Nah, I'm in the friend zone."

[@madgameman1]

A man cannot date a women if he does not have leadership qualities. Women look for men who can lead and have strength leading. This is Gods intent; a wife should follow the leadership of her husband. How can this this be determined without leadership? No... a man should absolutely lead in dating, but in a different way to marriage. I think of it this way: Dating = Leadership Qualities. Marriage = Leadership. He should show qualities of leadership through his actions and intentions. Small ways a man can do this is by choosing the place, the time, and being clear and direct with communication. A more impactful way of showing leadership is by initiating crucial conversations and communicating expectations; showing respect to her life and her decisions, which you have no control over (which you did mention in this video). Before marriage you are two, but in marriage you are one. The husband is the head of that union. This is when true leadership should happen. This is when you are no longer making decisions for you alone, but for your wife also. Bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh.

[@joshuacorbin221]

The law of the Lid? Your success is limited by your leadership abilities?

[@CasshernSinz1613]

This is exactly what I was going to say. He doesn't even define what he means by "lead" when talking about a bf/gf dating. It's hard to refute any points he makes when he side-steps defining any terms he uses.

[@joshuacorbin221]

@@madgameman1 does God equip the called or does he call the so equipped?

[@prod_by_walker808]

​@@joshuacorbin221both depending on person, timing, and seasons. God will sometimes call you and equip you in the process. Other times you will go through a season of equipping and then be called.

[@Ezekiel336-16]

If the man is not going to personify the character required, and the desire to acquire what may be lacking, to lead in Christ as required while dating/courting, and the woman is not going to personify the character traits required with the Lord to be a good compliment and helpmate in that calling as a future wife during that time, then it's not reasonable to expect that either or both will just miraculously change if marriage ensues. Nothing should be hidden or held back while getting to know someone before marriage, lest of course we just want trouble and want to make each other think we're someone that we're not. Lay it all out there, and remain faithful to the Lord when you do, and if the other is the one the Lord wants for you then trust in Him to reveal that and help you both make it happen. The rest is just worldly nonsense.

[@Strive1324L]

I think you should be honest in your behavior and your attitudes and goals and personality before marriage. When you hide stuff on people, they don't like surprises.

[@johnmckenna1776]

To become a true godly leader, you must first become a good and faithful follower of the Lord Jesus, then you must take the reins of your life and become a wise master over every area of your life. You can't expect to lead someone else, when you can't lead your own life in wisdom, honour, and integrity.

[@johnmckenna1776]

If you're only dating someone, you don't have the authority to lead your date. But you can set a positive example by how you treat her, and how you treat the other people you encounter on your date. In order to lead someone, you have to be married, or engaged, and have their permission or willingness to do so. Imagine if you went to your dates' flat, got the key to the door from the manager, and started to rearrange the furniture as you wished, without her permission! That would be ridiculous you say, well it's just as foolish to try to rearrange your date's beliefs, practices, and behaviours when you don't even have a real relationship established yet.

[@Ezekiel336-16]

If he or she is Christian then that's exactly what we're supposed to do! Help each other to become more holy like Jesus. That doesn't require marriage, it just requires being part of the Lord's family and knowing that's normal and expected of us all.

[@PrettyIntelligent]

Thank you for mentioning that dating was not even a thing in the bible. I feel like the concept presents unnecessary temptation for Christians.

[@TiffanyTurquoise]

🎯 Your content is ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐. Thank you so much!

[@sallyeblen7032]

I hope this reaches all young men.

[@Angel-dd2ep]

Thank you for your insight and using scripture to teach on these topics I usually hear what the wife is to do and what to be but not the husband. So thank you for teaching us younger men how to become a Godly husband if God has willed it in our lives.

[@ytdufy]

The first thesis of yours is that she can be a boss babe while dating, but magically, she will transform into that submissive and agreeable wife after marriage, just because... The second thesis of yours is that you shouldn't risk your life protecting your girlfriend's, should it be the case, because you are not her husband. Tell me, what kind of girl in her right mind would stay with such a wimpy boyfriend who didn't consider protecting her from an iminent danger, be it a wild animal, people or natural accidents? And if you do those things, are you entitled to expect her to follow your leadership, as you mentioned that men shouldn't expect submission because they wouldn't be ready to sacrifice? Of course, a man should not sacrifice or risk his life for a woman who doesn't follow sensible guidance, as she will put both of them in unnecessary danger by her recklessness. An athlete is training hard in order to compete and to prove himself. He wouldn't say: " - This is just training, I'll save myself for the competition." A medical student would do everything a doctor does and more if allowed if he wants to be a doctor. Do you think a lazy and unfaithful person would suddenly become the opposite just because they signed a paper? A Romanian saint said: "You cannot enter after you die the kingdom which you weren't already living in." I appreciate all your other videos, but this one I don't agree with.

[@TiffanyTurquoise]

All that you mention is cumbersome to the worldly minded, but not someone who is godly minded. If a woman is a boss babe, that is antithesis to the submitted wife, why are you trying to turn her into something she is not. Choose worldly or choose godly. No man can serve two masters.

[@bravebeats]

You lead her from the beginning and she shows you her wife qualities from the beginning as well.

[@chrisstrupp5737]

I get what you mean but if she didnt respect me I wouldn't even consider dating the person to be honest. If I wouldn't consider marrying them I wouldn't even try dating otherwise a waste off time.

[@Elvioso]

This is a great point. What if you are dating to marry ? Courting? Learning where God leads and you want to be wise ?

[@chill6863]

In other videos you say that the man should always be the “pursuer” (which I have never been able to find scriptural support for) and in this video, you’ve provided the reasons that refute your other videos citing that the man should always be the pursuer.

[@marynevel6015]

I've never heard Mark say that the man should always be the pursuer.

[@chill6863]

I’m not sure that you’ve watched many of his videos then 😎

[@slick_Ric]

where's the scriptural support for a husband having to pursue his wife? pursuit is not part of the marriage roles, there's no contradiction here

[@chill6863]

@@slick_Ric you aren’t understanding what is being discussed

[@chill6863]

We aren’t talking about marriage. Mark’s videos often say that the “man should be the pursuer in dating”

[@2stepper2000]

To many Beta men in the Christian world, we as men are the Head not the Tail🎉

[@mwanderson667]

Mark, I've watched many of your videos over the past few years and of all of them, this is one where I can't disagree with you more. And it seems at odds with some of your other videos. Dating/Marriage is not binary. It isn't just two phases of relationship. Lots of men and women will be in for a rude awakening upon marriage if they treat it as such. Initial dating is as you described in the video, do I like him/her do we get along, do they have a walk with the Lord? Those types of things. But after that, if you are thinking about exploring marriage, it should start to transition and each of them should show more about how they would be in a marriage. Will he lead when necessary? Will he protect her if called upon? Will she submit to wise counsel? Will she follow him towards a deeper relationship with the Lord? Does he even try to do so? Certainly when a couple becomes engaged they should start to establish and demonstrate the proper roles they should have in marriage. Others who are in the dating world. This is not just me with a wild idea, a very godly preacher Dr. Tony Evans discusses this in his videos about Kingdom marriage available on YT.

[@joshuacorbin221]

Dating a covenant does not make. Not sorry. That said, you can obtain all the information you need about a man by his standing in the community and the local church. Not respectable not a leader and not successful? Not worth the time it takes to date. It truly is as cut and dried as that sounds.

[@slick_Ric]

you can assess all those things to some degree without pretending to be married. the thing with dating is it's not a covenant so it can end at any moment and nobody owes the other anything. so in that context it's just foolish and irresponsible to start playing like we're married. should that relationship end one or both will be so full of expectations from all the pretend marriage that the break-up will be even more devastating than it would have been

[@joshuacorbin221]

@@slick_Ric the reality in my case is, it really wasn't a problem to break up. A solution describes the break up more aptly.

[@TheSuperkiller119]

"you have to be a bot to keep believing these people" stop calling me out like that!

[@AaronArnoldaquapod]

I like this video. But i get weird when a controversial video is aligned with what I'm thinking.

[@nicolebalmier]

As a woman I believe we can assess leadership qualities, but not be led ❤

[@InfinitEternaLovEmmanuel]

💯💯💯

[@heythere6983]

Depends if the guy is gonna step back and create a false sense of his leadership ability. There is only one way to know, other behaviors don’t always translate well into seeing if he’s a leader. Iv has job positions to teach and lead teams, or educate dozens of people, lead events with hundreds of people and keep safety while I’m in charge or work in a team and prep the team. None of that shows if I’m speaking to someone who has got too many walls up and preemptively assumes they saw a hint of insecurity or lack of leadership based on limited interaction. If someone sets boundaries I respect it but often unnecessary boundaries can be set and then I don’t get to show my true self rather I’m stuck representing only the limitations the other person set

[@Ezekiel336-16]

Huh?

[@rogerdsmith]

I tell you what, come back and talk about these things when you’ve got another 30 or 40 years on you. You’ll be shocked at how different your perceptions will be……

[@Kate-lr6yv]

This is actually interesting because I feel like God was asking me, a woman to do it.

[@HeavensMelodies-pr6et]

First comment 🎉

[@joshuacorbin221]

Yay

[@shanevassallo]

Another old video with a new thumbnail. It's very misleading, why are you doing that?

[@TiffanyTurquoise]

Still 100% relevant for single people seeking godliness for their dating relationships.

[@slick_Ric]

because this is a new channel specifically for men, and obviously he has a lot of videos on the original channel that are geared towards men but he made them before he made this channel, so he's moving them over