No One REALLY Understands This! || Gukesh vs Praggnanandhaa || Superbet Romania Chess Classic (2024)

[@FructuredEchoes]

Just for clarification, we study the end games after dinner, not before breakfast. Before breakfast we practice the openings.

[@fredygump5578]

You practice middle game after second breakfast?

[@smitmishra8872]

It's been 2 3 years watching you. All my best wishes, brother. Watching our players seems so good. Cheers mate.

[@smitmishra8872]

Ahhh, the immediate ❤️.....that's what makes you stand out of other chess content creators. Again, best wishes.

[@matiasg1234]

#suggestion: Hi Agad! not sure if you are aware, but Faustino Oro from Argentina is currently playing the "Cerrado IM de Barcelona" and just needs 1 point in the last 2 matches to get his last IM norm. Today, if he wins (or at least hold a draw and another one tomorrow) it will become the youngest IM player of history, but even if he doesn´t get the norm, he is the youngest player on reaching 2200, 2300, a NM title, an IM norm and also on reaching 3000 on lichess on rapid (I think - or bullet). Would be awesome if you can cover some of his games, i.e. yesterday he won a game where he was 100% accuracy on his firsts 21ish moves!!! and he didn´t finish 100% since he went for an end game where he can exchange quicker. It was round 6 against Alex, Villa Tornero - Thanks for your time and content, been following your channel for some years now. Cheers!

[@bigperk345]

Good luck to Oro!

[@chesneytube1]

Not to disparage his achievements but 100% on 21 moves is easy because you can just memorise the computer lines. Any good player can do this.

[@matiasg1234]

@@chesneytube1 it wasn´t a computer or book line

[@chesneytube1]

@@matiasg1234 how do you know? You can make your own computer line with a computer.

[@rohitsrivastava9033]

@@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़क you'll regret your words in a few years

[@BrandonBB4]

Take a shot (of water) every time Antonio says "opposition"

[@armaananwar205]

bro my bladder is full now ! 😅

[@johnduncan5117]

Fascinating stuff with the kings wandering around at the end

[@TheForgottenMan270]

11:14 so that h5 move right away, because first thought was opposition. I guess neither saw it because clocks were low and they were under a lot of stress, and that leads to errors. Another great video, and another great game.

[@siratti66]

I think h5 not winner move. If white plays Ke3, not Kf4, or did i see wrong?

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Fortunate for Gukesh Pragg did not find the moves he needed to win this game reminded me of a game during I believe the candidates where it looked like Pragg had an advantage in the endgame I think it also was a 3 against 2 pawn endgame in which Gukesh was able to draw the game India should definitely be proud of these two great players

[@siratti66]

Are y sure Gukesh could win? If white plays Ke3, not Kf4?

[@anilbista7445]

After following this channel for 5 years and following Magnus for 7 years , I realized nobody plays Catalan like Magnus Magnus quite often gives his Catalan bishop and attacks on queen side

[@petrjara7559]

yeah magnus does suboptimal moves because he's better in finding optimal moves in unknown situations. If casual Andy knows you should never trade that bishop he won't look at lines where the bishop gets traded

[@michelebensa]

Dubov entered the chat👀

[@devadathans5506]

You should check out Kramnik's positional understanding. For a while, everyone knew what Kramnik would do with his past c pawn. Despite knowing that, they couldn't do anything.

[@jeremywilliams5107]

Thanks for the commentary - snd all the others over many years. 5:57 "You don't have to think twice about before centralising your queen" - Gukesh apparently has one thought every six minutes 😄

[@mothecat776]

Hey Agadmator. This seems to be a very complex version of "Opposition". I would say it should be included in books that talk about opposition and Triangulation! As a very special case.... What do you think??

[@marianosetula5666]

like that idea

[@nanamallo8039]

14:43 why cant the black pawn be pushed to h5?

[@siratti66]

At 11:56 what happen,when Kg6, and not Kf4, rather Ke3? What will black play? I can't see how will black win.

[@manuelcespedesbeltran-xd7wr]

Same question??

[@jolly_roger2]

Kg7!! Only winning move, gaining opposition after Kf4, Kf6. And if Kg7, Kf3, f6! He is also lying at 12:51 with Kg6 being winning as if white plays Ke3 black is forced to go back to g5 and play h5 anyway...

[@manuelcespedesbeltran-xd7wr]

1.....h5 2. Ke3 Kg7 3. Kf3 f6 4. Kf4 Kg6 5. Kf3 Kf7. ..

[@aravindappat]

The quote is clearly a nod to the discussion Yasser had about the meaning of the word Initiative during the commentary for yesterdays games.

[@thenoblegnuwildebeest3625]

#suggestion Would you consider making a video on the game Keres - Krogius from the USSR championship in 1959? It's an amazing attacking game in the Taimanov Sicilian featuring multiple piece sacrifices.

[@MaTheMaTik-n7c]

Is there a reason, why the clock is set at 2:00:and 56 seconds ? Why those extra 56 seconds ?

[@ottolehikoinen6193]

Yes the Catalan may explode to horrific complications and that's where I lose.

[@fahimp3]

At 3:20 why not just Qxe5? I know Qxd2 can be reply but wouldn't white be better and potentially also play Rxf6?

[@arjunvs11]

Same question.

[@leyubar1]

3:22 What prevents white queen from taking knight on e5?

[@PleaseGodSmiteMe]

whites knight is also hanging

[@ritamdeb2232]

The black queen can then take the white knight on d2. It's just a different line, can't show all lines in a single video.

[@leyubar1]

@@ritamdeb2232 thanks for explaining

[@AndreyNekrasov-s7d]

Your strategies are so simple yet effective, it's amazing🕶

[@tmlms1313]

at 14:41 why can't Prag go pawn f5 instead of king g5?... Trade pawns? I think move 67 or 68, i'm the last person to ask for chess advice but I can't see why that doesn't work.

[@alekhinesgun9997]

because you can never queen your h pawn?

[@josephcallahan1664]

Wow! Thanks for the interesting game. It's hard to believe except we saw it.

[@iyappank635]

Suggestion Boris spassky vs Bobby Fischer 1992 Match

[@IngieKerr]

@@joeltchitchi2536 I can't see it in agad's video database. I can only see the 1972 games listed there. not the 1992 "rematch" ... is it referenced under another game?

[@vignesh5345]

#Suggestion

[@boopy12g]

5:56 “You don’t have to think twice before centralizing your Queen. It’s always a good move.” A lesson in real life I’ve learned too late

[@dr_adityabhaskar]

11:15 pawn to b4 😎

[@ManuShivannaprakash]

49th viedo on Pragg One more game to make half century Pragg is star in this channel 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@isaacnewton9342]

Agad 14:41 why can't black play pawn to h5 for the win?

[@alekhinesgun9997]

h5 gxh5 Kxh5 Kf4 Kg6 Kg4 draw

[@isaacnewton9342]

​@@alekhinesgun9997can't black advance his extra pawn to victory?

[@alekhinesgun9997]

@@isaacnewton9342 No because white has opposition and thus black can't win

[@GabbarXingh]

Agad loves Praggu a lot

[@Ghost_Cube]

that made my stomach upset that prag missed the win :(

[@michaelblankenau6598]

Why instead of Rd2 didn’t White play Nxd5 ?

[@sophisticat7673]

cant believe that endgame - threw it away!!

[@dumpy4289]

cheers that was really interesting insight for this noob!

[@colegieseking5136]

As a Catalan player, I have to say that this is one of the most frustrating lines to deal with. I’m surprised that it’s not more common.

[@bonginkosinhlakaniphodlami7536]

The only channel where I like before watching

[@nsyln]

4:25 Bishop takes Knight is winning for Gukesh with Nc5 in tow, or am i missing something...

[@alekhinesgun9997]

Bishop or queen c6?

[@jamesdelb6885]

"You all practice your endgame positions every day of course!"

[@gusbert]

Hello Agamator!

[@ronjohnson9690]

Giving a man time to think allows room for more options to consider.

[@homelander21]

3:21 why cant gukesh takes the knight. Is that a trap

[@alekhinesgun9997]

Qxd2

[@homelander21]

@@alekhinesgun9997 oh thnks lol🤣🤣

[@cptnavman]

At 4':08" why can't bishop take pawn? if knight threatens queen as mentioned, the bishop could simply take it with trade?

[@alekhinesgun9997]

Ng4

[@kavyajoshi257]

The black knight doesn't attack the rook as it could be captured by the white queen on b2

[@jonathancauley5345]

Oh man, that has to hurt! I’ve done this plenty of time 😆

[@joeessen1059]

Nice

[@christofferore6285]

#suggestion more videoes in the sorcery series

[@BlckJack123]

The draw shows that even the best players aren't immune to mental fatigue even if they are teenagers. Is the reason that engines are better than even the best players due to the fact that engines never get tired?

[@SamuelPearlman]

"In the Endgame, the Gods placed ... Not Pragg" :[

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

Shocking how badly this endgame was played by both players.

[@deepakbisht4957]

Low on time...

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

@@deepakbisht4957 ah

[@alekhinesgun9997]

it was one mistake?

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

@@alekhinesgun9997 Not really. If you drill on K+P endings, the moves at some level should be automatic. There is another level above that, which makes these endings wonderfully complex, but this game was not even being played well on autopilot.

[@alekhinesgun9997]

​@@TomJones-tx7pb You said this endgame wasn't played well. Substantiate that claim because as far as I can tell it was played fine except for one fatal mistake on both ends (Qf3 for gukesh and missing h5 for pragg).

[@michaelbrowder1759]

Agadmator's comments about 3 minutes versus a classic game--isn't that like a foul shot in basketball which should be the easiest shot to make: a standard distance, no opposition etc. but folks miss all the time.

[@DVssTamilSongs]

If Knight capture on e5, Queen can capture back

[@ex0duzz]

I think thats pure inexperience.. there's no way Ding or Magnus would screw that up basic king and pawn endgame even with 5 seconds left. That's what you need to win the WC like when Ding beat Nepo by refusing the draw and converting endgame that everyone else thought was a draw(or they would have taken the draw but Ding saw that he had better practical chances and even if it was draw with best play, nepo would have to work for it).

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Keep the opposition Gukesh must have studied much defense

[@whyitmatters3076]

Gukesh played an impressive match against Magnus during the World Cup, but he lost due to errors in the endgame. In the second game against Magnus, he drew, partly due to poor endgame play resulting from time pressure. Gukesh's endgame skills have been improving since that match. Gukesh's biggest problem is time trouble; otherwise, he can often find strong moves even in complex positions. His endgame skills are definitely developing. He won against Abasov in candidates due to an amazing endgame

[@petrjara7559]

I'd say it happends to the best of us but obviously I'm the best and it never happends to me so I rather say it happends to the best of them

[@austin33785]

Coolies

[@lagaleriaco3294]

Is Gukesh ready for the World Chess Championship Match?

[@Rui42069]

never was, we'll have accidental champion against accidental challenger ..or should I say "the title became more politisc than chess"??

[@ThanosLuvsDeath]

Is Ding ready for WCC match??

[@shauryadivya1736]

He certainly isn't among the strongest players who could challenge the champion, but he certainly isn't an accidental challenger. He qualified for and won the candidates in a fair manner.​@@Rui42069

[@Raunak1234-e9d]

​@@Rui42069 Yeah he was at home when candidates happened and automatically got the green card to play WCC against ding.

[@lazarpejovic9587]

Why not on 5:44 move pawn on e4? There is a good combination of moves i think #suggestion

[@alekhinesgun9997]

Nc3 and white is losing, also that's not how you use that hashtag. Use it to suggest games for agad to review, not move suggestions.

[@johnmallette3143]

gg

[@Skwertydogs]

nice game

[@jaimeduncan6167]

I believe that this is a showing of the fact that they are children, and the problem with modern male chess players. The computer allows them to super accelerate growth, but that blocks them from the hours needed to be well-rounded and develop the deep understanding of the game and calculation discipline of people from Kasparov's era. I hope the trainers sit with them to study the end game, because this showing means people will try to force them into complicated endgames.

[@Anon_581]

This endgame is much more tricky than the video here makes it seem. Forcing the rook trade by Black and ending up with doubled f-pawns and evaluating that as winning for Black is already counterintuitive enough (a 3-2 pawn majority on one side with well placed kings is a draw most of the time, you'd think it being more so when there's doubled pawns for the side with the 3 pawns). There are a lot more variations that White could've tried to be tricky and swindle out a draw which Agad didn't show, you can go see the video on the Chessbase India channel where this endgame was analyzed in much more depth. It definitely isn't a "showing of the fact that they are children... blah blah blah".

[@johnsimmons8456]

Correct, with more experience and more games played which only comes with time, the end game patterns become more understood, partially negating the lack of time remaining on the board. Fast forward a few years worth of more experience and neither of them make these blunders.

[@Just_blunders]

​@@johnsimmons8456 These are definitely not children. Your point may hold but it is unnecessary to diminish them in that manner.

[@johnsimmons8456]

@@Just_blunders Both players are still young is what I’m saying. No one is diminishing anyone.

[@michaelblankenau6598]

The Worlds best who can’t calculate a basic opposition K and P endgame. What are we missing here ?

[@alekhinesgun9997]

The fact that they have minutes on the clock.

[@mathslover98]

Good game by both of them.

[@RuxadeWoolfe]

No it's not good by both of them. both praggv and Guki should be ashamed. Gukesh for miscalculation and loosing on the spot. And pragg losing that obviously won endgame.

[@EdwinMartin111]

​@@RuxadeWoolfe. Are you a grandmaster?

[@tufgaming4830]

Anand won Again........ 🎉

[@anonymousvarunaaron7400]

best of them bot us,kill me🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@josephbloggss7286]

Hi y'all!

[@britkasablja6471]

Suggestion: Torch vs Stockfish (Stockfish is NOT the strongest chess engine anymore) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y36pkqF9i5uZnLMsi=1a214HzFgOA1xRNY

[@syuvanes]

Pragg & Gukesh ♟️👑

[@what-on-earth5632]

#suggestion agadmator, why are you ignoring Fabi's winning game against Alireza

[@riswanto-e4r]

Ok

[@VaibhavBabalsurkar]

❤❤

[@alpaybaykal345]

as a challenger, you start with white and in the middle of the game, you are forced to defend for a draw. this is a true indication of how prag is powerful

[@einsteintoochi8492]

feelas xup

[@SatrancAma]

Türk var mı

[@mathslover98]

🇦🇿🇦🇿

[@SatrancAma]

@@mathslover98 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@majumdarunicorn]

This year's world champion vs next year's world champion.

[@richardlobo88]

Too early to make a comment like this.

[@shub_2146]

bro they missing the basics a 2000 player knows so can't say any of them will be world champion one day.

[@crbgaming6683]

​@@shub_2146what is your elo 😂

[@Rui42069]

higher than a kite

[@alexisperrottey1640]

Vaxxed.

[@Never-judge582]

1v1 bro! 😂😂*in free fire🔥

[@Shravan911]

India❤

[@walmartgolem]

That's what happens when the engine breaks down...

[@ananthu4291]

First

[@ananthu4291]

Very funny

[@northshores7319]

Poor endgame play by both players. Makes me wonder why they are thought to be so superb

[@patogordo1385]

Plz add the eval bar

[@snatchinyopeople]

no

[@cygnustsp]

Never

[@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़क]

2:14:- white has the option (.....realises Gukesh is a brown desi kid) .... Gukesh has the option 🤣

[@trulyfacts2857]

India won world cup 2024.

[@Rui42069]

little by little, the hype fades and Ding shall be (bing) chilling once more thanks for showing a "bad" game for once ...nothing really happened, but nothing related to Ding happened in China before the candidates either ..right? ..right??