'No One Should Be Doing Keto Diet!' - Response

[@PLANTBASEDNEWS]

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[@jamesbradwood5064]

Superb Interview! Excellent Q&A. :-D

[@mikeskylark1594]

There's a lot of potential problems with 100% plant-based, indeed. But people gotta do it carefully to actually get the benefits & therefore really help the animals & environment. #ResponsibleVeganism

[@gg13308]

@@mikeskylark1594 yes especially if it is processed. cutting out processed foods i and being plant based is the key. it worked for my mom at 83, she got off all meds doing this..whole food plant based

[@mikeskylark1594]

@@gg13308 True. Not much nutrition in processed foods. Veganism is a double edged sword - so you gotta do it carefully!

[@genericyoutubechannel6180]

U wish you'd interview more black vegans who a social media stars or what ever. Black people need more relatability because when our diet is bad it's the absolute worst. I recommend londonnigerianvegan and nigerian vegan, the last girl does african style pop up shops that are totally vegan. Also more muslim vegans and indian and east asian vegans would be good. Just a suggestion. You don't have to do it though.

[@marty197666]

I find it strange that so many cardiologists recommend a plant based diet yet most people will take as gospel what Joe Rogan or some bro down the gym tells them. Crazy world we live in

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

yeah really; agree

[@lloydchristmas4547]

Yep.

[@Julottt]

Most peoples prefer to hear good news about their bad habits thats why.

[@ChristineBeltran]

Maybe has more to do with the "cool kid factor" people are easily swayed by emotion. Logic not so much

[@bennettwaisbren]

It's because professional institutions have established a solid reputation of outright lying and misleading the public on numerous occasions over the years. People are right to show suspicion towards these "authorities."

[@betzib8021]

Thank goodness someone sensibly answered the question about why certain people have quit veganism.."I haven't talked to any of these people so I don't know." Intelligent man.

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

Not finding out why something happens when it is in your alleged field of expertise is "intelligent?" I'd say it was purposeful ignorance.

[@betzib8021]

@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 i dont think it is possible to find out what happened in a young person's life if you dont know that young person. And how would Dr Kahn ever be able to get to know all those young exvegans? They dont even know each other except for youtube presences. Everyone else is making many grand pronouncements about why this exvegan or that exvegan failed by diagnosing their failure through analyses of their youtube videos. I dont think any of them have figured out anything.. whether they apply chro nometer analyses to the said youtubers reported food intake or whether they just spout off about how harmful raw food diets or juice fasting is for the body and that is what the exvegans were doing so that must b the reason they failed. So if you dont know the exvegans and their history it is very wise to just say i withold judgement because i just dont know them. Ignorance is spouting off an opinion when you have no evidence...and have no way to get evidence.

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

betzi b>> I agree with some of what you said, but there is more to it than that. KZbin can tell you some things, but there are other ways to get a more in-depth reason for vegans going back to animals foods. All it takes is some research, and you can find lengthy and detailed reasons in various articles and blogs, often by the ex-vegans themselves, or people who have studied the phenomenon, including other vegans. You don't necessarily have to know someone to know what their motivations are for any given behavior, assuming they are being honest. And why would they lie if they were staunch vegans with a high "moral" or health agenda before they went astray? If you don't know the reasons, or if Dr. Williams doesn't know the reasons (though I suspect he was being untruthful,) I will tell you. And it's not a "grand pronouncement," but rather knowledge gleaned from reading in-depth interviews and essays from the vegans themselves. The vast majority of vegans who go back to animal foods do so because of failing health. Now, just like many people will jump to conclusions like you said and mention raw foods or juice fasting as the reason, many vegans also jump to conclusions, (or outright lie,) and bring up the same tired excuses. Say them along with me.......they "didn't do it right." They were "not eating enough calories." They failed to supplement with the necessary (and seemingly ever-growing list of) vital nutrients not in a vegan diet. They had no will power. They were never REALLY "in it for the animals." They were corrupted by omnivore family members or a carnivore society that frowned upon them. I know you've heard them all and probably used a few yourself, but it's hogwash. They got sick because plants are simply not enough to support good health for the majority of people. Yes, I know you can come up with some examples of those who can, but that is meaningless. It's overall tendencies that count, not the exceptions to the rule. I can point to total carnivores that are perfectly healthy, does that prove all vegetable foods are bad for you?

[@betzib8021]

@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 oh, Banished, maybe you are right about that. I sure dont know. I certainly could say all those statements along with you...heard them plenty. I dont fault people for eating meat...shoot i dont know anyone who eats like i do. I havent tried to figure out why those young people gave up veganism really. I work with young people and i dont try to figure out much that they do because in a little while they usually do something else. I figure im just not gonna know why. Anyway i do hope plants will keep sustaining me because if i have to eat meat i swear somebody would have to give it to me in a pill..it tastes so disgusting..but then i never did learn how to cook either. Thanks for your honest response. I can see your points.

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

betzi b>> When you say you don't know anyone who eats like you do, what do you mean by that? Are you partaking in some kind of bizarre ritualistic way of eating that was originally practiced by the ancient tribes of Babylonia? At any rate, good for you that you can sustain yourself on a vegan diet. I tried it myself for almost a year, but my mental (insert joke here) and physical health took a terrible downturn and I had to go back to eating at least some animal products, mainly fish. That brought my health back up to where it was before the vegan diet. I agree that it is mainly young people who give up on a vegan diet, but don't forget that there are plenty of middle-aged and older vegans who give up on the diet also. Some of them were vegans for decades. The depletion of the stored nutrients in your body will usually begin to downgrade your health after months or maybe years on a vegan diet. At least in most cases. Hopefully, you are an exception. I would hate to think you were forced to eat something you find so....so.....icky. But then again, I bet if you tried some meat that was prepared my a master chef, you would find a way to choke it down. Again and again and again and..........

[@jeffreywp]

Klaus, way to go with this follow-up interview! I absolutely love Dr. Kim's well-rounded answers and his recognition when there is no data (or it's too limited to be definitive).

[@isabellezablocki7447]

Dr. William was born the same year as my brother Didier. He looks good. My brother died from heart arrest 3 years ago. Yet he was super athletic. But he had high blood pressure and ate the traditional French diet. I was trying to talk him into a plant based diet. I sure wish he was still here with me. I am going to miss him until I die. Prevention is best.

[@ceolbeats7182]

Isabelle Zablocki Very sorry for your lose, I have a French friend with a diabetic child, has put the poor little lad on a dead animal keto diet🙄😔 No language or doctor data, will stop her feeding carcinogenic dead animals & 💩artery clogging dairy, to her poor son, so sad watching it play out!!!!

[@happycook6737]

🙏💐

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Nice interview Klaus. Lots of respect for Dr. Kim Williams; a real class act.

[@AllBodiesFitness]

Great interview. I love that you are spreading thoughtful, quality information to help people make the best choices!👍🏻💪🏼

[@natureasintended]

"I was focussing on the fact that so many friends of mine now that I'm getting above 60 were having heart attacks and so If I could upset a few people and get them to read more about nutrition, then that's a win!" Dr Kim Williams

[@lloydchristmas4547]

:)

[@nickjames6687]

the dr. looks like 75-80 years old Vegan die-t ages you dry's you out

[@DaSquareful]

@@nickjames6687 ahem WRONG! :)

[@tuleybee2425]

natureasintended my friend just had a heart attack at 60 :( 130 kilos overweight :(...

[@WorldOfARandomVegan]

I think that you shouldn't give so much attention and credence to those ex vegans. They are few really, but just got a lot of attention because they were on KZbin. Most were also quite foolish with water fasts and extreme diets. They don't represent vegans with common sense.

[@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288]

exactly

[@ceolbeats7182]

WorldOfRandomStuff Was probably just a set up, if not wouldn't it be great to see them a cpl of years down the line& regretting it👏🏼😂

[@smallfootprint2961]

Very good interview. This doctor is straight forward and easy to listen to. Thank you for posting this.

[@vfran838]

I've been a vegan for 8 years now - 3 years ago I changed to SOS free (salt,oil,sugar free). I have no regrets and feel great and got rid of arthritis in my hands and knees and lost a lot of weight. I'm definitely not going back to meat. Dr. Williams is a very thoughtful well-spoken person. Enjoyed the video.

[@ImprovingAbility]

wow that sounds extremely hard to do. I guess it could work on the countryside though, where one is not constantly tempted by delicious food and advertisement (I just had a bowl of sweet tofu pudding with red beans and cooked peanuts)

[@ratherrapid]

u seriously need to google the role of salt re chemical reactions in muscle contraction, including the heart.

[@wfroedgern]

V Fran love that-SOS! I was somewhat of a junk food vegan, and since I went sugar, oil free I feel amazing and as you pointed out, dramatically improved my arthritis. If you still have any issues, you might check out The Whole Food Plant Based Kitchen. Jill’s anti inflammatory smoothie is the cure!

[@ceolbeats7182]

The22726 Veganism😂👏🏼Is often linked to a journey, Our hsehold went vegan, no sugar instantly followed, I have trouble eating some fruits because of sweetness😂 weird bcoz I made desserts in the past, Then no oil came, cooking with a wicked home made stock made with dried sea weed as no salt now😂. You just keep getting healthier as a vegan person👏🏼👏🏽 As doc Neal Barnard explained it only takes 3weeks for our taste buds 2adjust, I wake up dreaming about kale & scrambled tofu now😂😜check out 5&10min vegan meals by The Happy Pear👍🏻 then you won't need to eat out with all those sweet😖 oily🤐 meals. Good luck with your journey👍🏻👏🏽🙏

[@christopheausruff]

I'm not sure how your nervous system would work without an intake of salt? Electrolytes? We all agree sugar is bad! Seed oils are not real foods in the sense we've never eaten them until industrial processes were developed to extract them for use on machinery and then, being entrepreneurial, tried to think of a way of turning them into a cheap 'food' for humans. The data on redmeat by WHO was based on a study that was so tiny an increase to be meaningless. If you have look into who is on these panels and who funds them it will be an eye-opener.

[@VeryLikeLeigh]

So when inflammatory markers are down, one tends to feel cold? @ 9:10 Wow. I'm always cold, I thought it was a sign of maybe something wrong. But I'm super healthy and never get sick. I'm happy to know that! Klaus you should do a video on that topic.

[@mnayak9348]

I don’t understand why feel cold if inflammation down, can anyone explain why?

[@VeryLikeLeigh]

@@mnayak9348 I believe, when one has lots of inflammation they can feel hot or warm. For example, I have a friend that is very unhealthy from diabetes and high blood pressure and a bad diet, she NEVER feels cold. She doesn't own a coat and will seem just fine when everyone else is freezing. That's just an example, and does not explain the reason that those with low inflammation might feel colder than someone with high inflammation.

[@Jamykat]

That's crazy!! This is my third week on wfpb and i was telling my husband yesterday that i noticed i have been feeling colder for some reason. I'm always hot usually.

[@PinkieJoJo]

Jamy Crisostomo Same here. I have been eating this way for just under a week and I’m always freezing all of a sudden. I have known I inflammation so perhaps I am already reducing it.

[@breadanwine]

I've been WFPB for 15 or so years, and intermittent fasting for 8 - I now fast for 24 hours one day a week and always feel cold in the night on that day. I read some time ago that this was a sign that the IF was working.

[@cynicalidealist11]

Couple points: 1. The Adventist study 2 accounted for compounding factors such as exercise, smoking etc. 2. Consuming vitamin C rich foods can also aid with iron absorption.

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

The Adventist study was a questionaire study, and they are notorious for being quite inaccurate.

[@LINKYART]

I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and last year I put the Keto diet to the test and it made my disease escalate like crazy! My C reactive proteins were the highest they had ever been and I was sicker than ever. It was awful. Anti-inflammatory plant based diet keeps me healthy and happy.

[@naomimay82]

Helen Spencer I also have Rheumatoid Arthritis and tried keto. I had to get off it fast. My inflammation and CRP were soooooooooo high. I was miserable and I gained weight.

[@HEALINGYOURRA]

I have ra and heart disease. Went plant based. Off all heart meds and almost off all ra drugs. Lost 90 lbs. No pain or angina. Gym 6 days a week and back working on building sites as painter. Saved my life!

[@Honey-Bee-25]

It's been 2 years...how are you all doing?? I kept seeing stuff about oxlates, phytic acid & teeth problems etc so I was nervous to try and stick with it for a long time. I also got discouraged I wasnt losing weight as fast as I thought I would, but I did feel better overall and palpitations disappeared when I did do it. Stories like these give me so much hope that it's worth sticking with! It's just worth trying for yourself and seeing how your body responds!!

[@monokumannius4522]

Lol. Probably you have done bad keto as keto needs some information to do as well. It is not a diet but more like a lifestyle and probably you dont do intermittent fasting. Dont blame keto if the problem lies in yourself

[@LINKYART]

@@monokumannius4522 I did IF with it. OMAD. Didn’t help.

[@IResonateWithU]

I always feel like I've learned so much after listening to Dr Williams, he's so genuine .I look forward to these vids so much.

[@phatballz6983]

I've been doing Keto successfully for 3 months and am watched this. Looking for the truth and no biases. Hard to determine because everyone seems to have peer reviews, journals, studies, doctors backing their argument, etc. Amazing it's 2020 and we STILL can't agree on a diet for human beings!

[@KruSsie-n9t]

I have been working out for a long time, I started in 2004 and I have tried all kinds of diets. I'm here now watching this vlog because I just quit doing keto diet yesterday. I've been on a keto diet for a few weeks and I noticed that I didn't lose weight at all. What really worked for me is the calorie deficit diet or fast 800 diet and that is already tried and tested by me. I noticed that on keto diet, my waistline increased. I was on OMAD with intermittent fasting, but it wasn't really effective for me which is quite disappointing. On a low-calorie diet, I could lose weight in an instant and I can easily see the improvement of my weight and waistline in just a week. But on keto diet, my abs disappeared even if I was consistently exercising every day. I just tried the keto diet because I've heard a lot of benefits about it like treating diseases, clearing up the skin, lowering blood sugar level and what I liked the most is, it would make you lose weight EASILY (that's what they claimed) and what happened to me is the opposite, I literally gained weight considering that I was on a strict keto diet with intermittent fasting. When I was on low-calorie diet, my weight was 43 kilos and then it became 49.9 kilos after 5 weeks of doing strict keto diet. I feel better when I don't eat fatty foods, I feel lighter. Adding fats on my diet really is against my will but I had to, for the sake of keto diet. Before I began doing this type of diet, my waistline was 23 inches and now it's 27 inches and this is mentally draining for me. It sucks big time! Keto Diet is not really for everyone. I also don't like the amount of restrictions on this type of diet, the keto flu, leg cramps and bad breath are outrageous! For active people like me, I really need my carbohydrates! And now that I'm back to low-calorie diet, I feel a lot better knowing that I could eat anything I want without feeling guilty. If you want to lose weight, plant-based diet is even so much better than keto diet.

[@Magnulus76]

@@KruSsie-n9t I didn't lose weight on a keto diet, either. I think it works for some people because some people are more physically active and it's basically a restriction diet for them that forces them to cut out alot of junk food they are used to. But that doesn't mean it's a good diet for everyone, and eating that much protein comes with some significant downsides.

[@KruSsie-n9t]

@@Magnulus76 I agree with you. And this type of diet is not sustainable at all due to the extreme restrictions. If you're on a keto diet, eating a slice of cake (not the keto one) could immediately spike your blood sugar levels and could destroy your progress. Now that I'm back to calorie deficit diet and avoiding fatty foods like I used to, my abs are showing up again.

[@ilkerkarakaya5903]

@@KruSsie-n9t i lost weight with the calorie deficit and keto. With the calorie deficit one i lost 8 Kilos in 3 months and i was always hungry. But with keto i lost 10 Kilos in 20 days i was also following omad . Even tho i ate once a day i was never hungry and i felt awesome. I can definetly tell that it is not just about avoiding junk foods. But like you said it isn't for everybody.

[@popparocko5295]

Interesting, I’m primarily meat it’s easy I’m extremely fit low carb. Happy feel great, I eat carbs but I know I can store then remove that fat. I know my body well , I guess I’m a meatarian if that’s a word. I only really eat red meat, eggs butter bacon some avo , lots of animal fat.love it

[@rikspector]

Another Doctor with a reasoned and rational approach to nutrition. There is no magic bullet,no matter how healthy we stay, we will all die, but If living an extra 5 or 10 or more years is associated with constant suffering or medication, than I would rather eat plant based. We are improving the lives of our fellow creatures as well as the environment in edition to our own I know I'm stating the obvious and preaching to the choir, but maybe ,just maybe someone will start to take the message seriously, at least for the children,whom I often see wobbling along, as overweight and ill as their parents. Cheers, Rik Spector

[@jamesonwalker4732]

So right!!

[@ceolbeats7182]

Frederick Spector So sad when you see those poor kids out of breath just because they rushed across the rd, watching their obese parents!!! Handing them more slop2 wash down the cancerous bacon sausage greasy white roll, &you know they will be having more for dinner:(

[@kevingarris198]

Even Dr. Fuhrman acknowledges that no known civilization has subsisted on a purely vegan diet, so we just don't have the long term generational data that we have with respect to other dietary patterns. This is one of the reasons, according to him, that he is so insistent concerning proper EPA/DHA supplementation.

[@verawu659]

In my experience, I found that even when I did the vegan ketogenic diet, it was not as sustainable compared to a high-starch low fat diet.

[@natureasintended]

Numb feet, which B12 supplement were you taking?

[@ceolbeats7182]

natureasintended What's b12 got to do with numb feet?

[@davidwilliams4839]

@@Sergei_Gusakov those BG levels of 6.7 mmol/L is considered prediabetic and 7 is just at the low level of a diabetic.

[@humaneskits9318]

Genuine question: if eating animals is "unnecessary" and therefore "immoral," isn't it also "unnecessary" and "immoral" to eat processed food (instead of whole foods) because it takes more industry (and that is bad for the environment and wild animals)?

[@checkedcabbage2462]

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I recon there's truth in that statement. There's no perfect food so there is always room for improvement. You have a good point although you start working toward a philosophy like monks. So dedicated to not harming life they sweep the ground in front of them while they walk, in order to not step on bugs. Not saying that's a wrong way to live.

[@LightbringerASMR]

I love that he's so thoughtful with his answers, he's easier to trust because he's not just being an apologist for his favorite way of eating.

[@7lets]

Klaus, you're increasingly asking more difficult questions. It makes things feel awkward, but I thank you for doing it. It's a good thing to get out those kinks so we're not being dishonest with ourselves or each other. Ethical veganism is important, but the scientific facts shouldn't be distorted. Maybe a tiny portion of animal products can accompany a healthy and fulfilled life, but other things can be considered to get that last tiny amount off your plate.

[@spiral-m]

yes

[@ceolbeats7182]

7lets just 1 cigarette

[@kindregardskatie]

The vegan dude thats cold, that use to me, until I started eating ginger & cinnamon, particularly fresh warm ginger tea in winter (i chop up 6 pieces of fresh ginger & boil it in water, soon as water boils i bring to simmer for 5 mins) ...👍

[@betzib8021]

Wow great to hear i freeze all winter long.

[@ashleywyatt7114]

Yes yes yes! Fresh ginger is the truth!

[@anthonyv7334]

13:00 he talks about low carb and high carb increasing mortality, this goes against Dr. Mcdougall, Essylstein, and Dean Ornish. So is he saying more moderate carb fat and protein and not having any macro very high? This is confusing information within the vegan doctors and different explanations. I’m vegan and confused by this a lot.

[@japanluv]

A lot of info outthere and you get to the point where you dont know where to start, what to try and so on:/

[@natureasintended]

Plant-based evidence / paleo diet 9 June 2013 · "The most important support for my conclusion that we are starch-eaters is based on an observation that you can easily validate for yourself: All large populations of trim, healthy people, throughout written human history, have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch. Examples of thriving people include, Japanese and Chinese in Asia eating sweet potatoes, buckwheat, and/or rice, Incas in South America eating potatoes, Mayans and Aztecs in Central America eating corn, and Egyptians in the Middle East eating wheat.Historical Examples of Grain-Based, Starch-Based, Diets Barley - Middle East for 11,000 years Corn - Central and South America for 7000 years Millet - Africa for 6,000 years Oats - Middle East for 11,000 years Sorghum - East Africa for 6,000 years Rice - Asia for more than 10,000 years Rye - Asia for 5000 years Wheat - Near East for 10,000 years" www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008nl/jan/grains.htm

[@brianmerkosky9243]

The essylstein and ornish studies were of people who already had a lot of fat in their bodies and massive heart disease so it's possible that in these people a low fat high carb diet was better and as their bodies lose weight the fats in their body break down and are utilized by the body. In already lean people it may be better to have a little more fat in your diet.. It's really tough to know what the best way is though. So much more research is needed that isn't industry funded.

[@Starship245]

Thank you. Always love your videos 😊

[@diminishingerica8733]

I was surprised when he said that doing keto with plants isn't unhealthy. I've tried vegan keto and it was great but I only did it for about three weeks because I started having aggravated heart palpitations (I have a mild mitral valve prolapse), which virtually disappear altogether when I follow a high carb, low fat vegan way of eating. I found that I relied heavily on mock meats and various oils for satiety and, given the science on mock meats and oils being damaging to the endothelium as well as having similar effects on the body as animal products. How could one follow a vegan ketogenic lifestyle without relying so heavily on oils and mock meats yet manage to not starve to death? Heh. I guess that's kinda what keto is, though, a mild form of starvation...?

[@GoFredBananass]

Hmm honestly just don't do keto. Replace all white bread, rice and pasta w salad and you will loose weigth in a frw months.

[@PetitSucreBlau]

so a plant based diet is not good for people with low platelets? I get low platelets even by being vegetarian with tons of eggs and dairy...I had to eat high amounts of meat to rise them....what do you advise for that?

[@William_R_S_A]

Eat meat.

[@janetbenge1246]

Ive been vegan and vegetarian and stayed fat and on three meds for blood pressure and cholesterol. I changed to Keto (with animal products) for a month - boom - down ten pounds and off ALL my meds, and my blood pressure is normal. Numbers I haven't seen for 20 years. I feel great, I am getting stronger and healthier and my body is responding by dropping weight. This is my experience, and I'm sticking with. Please check out the 'other' sides info, Dr. Eric Berg in particular. There are lots of studies and meta studies that support a Keto lifestyle as well. Collect all the information before writing something off.

[@UchihaChikiru]

12:38 Can someone please explain the description he is describing here because I having a hard time understanding the analysis?

[@Test-eb9bj]

I am glad that he distinguished between refined carbs & complex carbs. The use & expression „carbs“ in the nutrition communities drives me nuts. Not even the plantbased doctors distinguish enough between them AND between starchy plants and non-starchy plant food! And that makes a HUGE difference when it comes to metabolism, weight & nutrition, gut issues etc.

[@Equinox1.5]

I'm glad you brought up the point about vegan doctors recommending fully plant-based diets based on data that includes small amounts of animal products.

[@ceolbeats7182]

Rose Viola Vegans DO NOT eat tiny bits of dead animal!!!!!!!!

[@stan8926]

The question is this small amount is helpful in any way(or necessary) or not toxic enough to not matter.

[@Equinox1.5]

@@stan8926 From what I've read, a very small amount is not considered toxic as such (even people in the plant-based Blue Zones have traditionally eaten some animal foods, especially on feast days) but the results of the Adventist Health Study would suggest that a fully plant-based diet is the healthiest.

[@mannnnel]

Please someone help me. What's the amount (if any), how many times a week and by what form (supplement or fortified food) should one take b12 in order to minimize the chances of lung cancer recurrence? My father removed his left lung last February due to lung cancer (stopped smoking around May and got diagnosed in November 2019) and did adjuvant chemotherapy until May 2020. Having predominantly a plant based diet for the last 3 years, he supplemented with b12 methylcobalamin 1000 mcg 3 times a week during those 3 years (he also takes vitamin d3 and omega 3 but no multivitamin). He also had surgery and adjuvant chemotherapy for colon cancer in 2015 (no recurrence since then), hence the switch to a plant based diet.

[@mannnnel]

I missed the webinar but after watching the download on DrGreger.org i'm more at peace.

[@troysurratt8776]

As someone who just wants to be as healthy as possible but does care about animals and the environment this was refreshing. We are human after all and it’s all about making conscious decisions to better yourself and the world even if it does mean you still eat a tiny bit of animal products here and there.

[@ceolbeats7182]

Troy Surratt Are u serious😳 don't care about environment or animals but u want to be healthy😏you won't be very healthy if your environment is *** they go hand in hand, don't care about animals!!! Did you watch Cowspiracy

[@ryublueblanka]

Eating animals isn't the problem. It's the abuse and torture and unnatural conditions imposed on the animals that is the problem and that needs to change.

[@MrSuperbluesky]

Meat is disgusting in 2019

[@ohboy035]

Facts

[@Anar-lx9xl]

Not,I'm on a raw meat only diet and have never being healthier in my life :).

[@DaSquareful]

@@Anar-lx9xl i absolutely believe you that raw meat is healthy compared to the average American diet but it doesnt mean it doesnt have problems.

[@mobilefungames]

Yep, GMO is better.

[@MrSuperbluesky]

Animals eat exclusively gmo corn and soy that bio accumulates . Grass fed animals are an ecological disaster. Action now go vegan

[@bobrob6629]

We have been eating meat for millions of years , our bodies are adapted for meat eating bcoz our ancestors would not skip meat bcoz of some thoughts about compassion , they didn't have access to supermarkets where you can find all your plants , ..they had limited food sources and had to eat anything they could find both plant and animal .

[@veganvantage2596]

What a Cool Guy !! ✌🏻🙋🏻‍♀️

[@wfroedgern]

Hmmm...first time I’ve heard the cold issue. I’m always freezing after lunch through the afternoon. Who knew it was a good thing! 🤯

[@mnayak9348]

People feel cold after big meal because most blood goes to stomach for digestion job and not much left to keep warm

[@whenifeellow]

Great questions asked in this interview! Thank you

[@fignewton8690]

Just enjoyed a steak and eggs for breakfast. Had fasted for 3 days, enjoying the effects of autophagy, low insulin levels and very little inflammation! I say to each their own, had been vegan and stayed constantly inflamed. For those in which it works, good for you!

[@ardenbellafiore1843]

I absolutely adore Dr. Williams.

[@tennisisphysical]

Fish and seafood is heavy metals, herbicides, pesticides, fungicides that all end up in rivers lakes and oceans. #vegan

[@HDvids101]

The herbicides,pesticides and fungicides come from the plants you eat. It isn't all you have been sold.

[@sO_RoNerY]

No. It comes from farmers spraying their crops to keep “bugs away”. No crop comes with all that chemicals naturally.

[@palecompass3598]

That's so true, that with a plant-based diet the body's inflammation drops, and you can wear more layers. Last winter, I loved picking out new sweaters for my husband's hot vegan body. He looks great!

[@GoFredBananass]

U go girl!!

[@suginami123]

Vegan keto. It works. All my blood data is superb. A1c dropped 4 points in 2 months. Liver data is now normal. LDL was a bit high. I’m wondering if 3 or 4 months of vegan keto is a good thing. My weight is down 12 kilos. I’m no longer fat.

[@daveicc495]

Dr. Williams is a missionary for the Plant 🌱 Based Diet Community

[@happycook6737]

I think the doctor is cold because his body fat level is so low! Fat is an insulator. I noticed that very thin Asians wear a ton of layers in the winter even in locations with central heating! I was amazed. Anytime I lose a lot of weight, I have been cold too.

[@roxywyndham]

I’m on vegan Keto right now. It’s lowering my fat and I’m gaining more muscles.

[@hadassha-xu2ki]

@black vegan What are you eating, I m losing muscle????

[@craftycrafter1960]

That’s great to hear, I am considering it to deal with diabetes

[@texmexspm]

Great interview. Keep it up!

[@MrSuperbluesky]

He looks lean and fit .

[@HDvids101]

Or drawn and weak... perspectives I suppose.

[@MrSuperbluesky]

Or athletic as plays tennis at high level .

[@racheldickensheets1228]

@@HDvids101 only because we're used to seeing people, even doctors, overweight and unhealthy. This doc it's svelte.

[@ezzcenter]

No energy :!

[@mikk5540]

12:19 where can I find this study? My sister has a lot of digestive issues and is doing some kind of carnivore keto diet and I’d love to give her some good resources that shows that eating more plant based is the way to go. If anyone has links to any of the other studies mentioned in this video I’d greatly appreciate if you could share them! 🙏🏼

[@sinomonbun]

Mikk Is the keto carnivore diet helping her?

[@mikk5540]

sinomonbun she feels that it has helped compared to the standard swedish diet but she is definitely not good and issues keep coming back. I’d just like to give her more information and a wider perspective.

[@mikk5540]

The22726 thank you! Yeah I’m hoping to at least give her a little nudge in the right direction. :)

[@ceolbeats7182]

Mikk She can go an visit my pal who is in hospital with gastritis caused by her dam keto diet, tell her look it up& watch Cowspiracy

[@1houndgal]

at 27:00 This video has an "ad" for a weight loss program within the content. I pay premium to not have to endure advertising during videos.

[@matthewvanmatre5137]

@Paris, it’s not an outside advertisement. It’s a group that partly sponsored the video. It was shown twice.

[@AngieStonesPhD]

One of my kids just pointed me to someone (Ken D. Berry MD) on youtube and told me that I should watch it because I don't eat meat (never liked the taste), and trying to cut the cheese after reading tons of articles. I really hate the confusion people are getting from the medical profession, especially if they are trying to help themselves with lessening their medical problems. I am an academic and I understand that research can be done one way or the other and produce the results to fit the bias, but it is high time that hard, clinical science gives undisputed input. We are playing with people's lives by giving anecdotal evidence.

[@ceolbeats7182]

Dr. Angie Stones I am Academic😂 so funny, did said academic watch The Truth About Dairy by doctor Neal Barnard, another academic😂

[@Taitai7]

It's one thing to care about cows and pigs etc not eat them because of belief. But, it's another thing to not eat cows and pigs etc because of belief while remaining blind to all the life that dies to mass plant and harvest your plants, beans, etc. Eating local, regardless of "diet", is THE most kind way to treat the environment and animals. Research, I implore you. I wish all happiness and health.

[@traceylazell9940]

I am vegan for life and been doing vegan keto for over 8 weeks now and it is actually really healthy if you do it properly. Yes you can eat lots of greens and some fruit because you don't count any fibre in these sort of carbs. Perhaps being a woman of menopausal age the extra fat, tempeh and organic soy products really work for my body. Doing this diet means you have to cut out heavily processed foods and wheat (not wheat gluten so seitan is fine) which can only be a good thing. Basically cutting out refined sugar is much better for you. (I will admit to missing vegan doughnuts though)!

[@zerocontentTV]

I‘m curious why do you need to do keto?

[@allencrider]

@@zerocontentTV Must have been all the junk food she was eating.

[@traceylazell9940]

@@zerocontentTV It keeps me on track to choose healthy wholefoods, bread. wheat and grains don't agree with me. Cutting out sugar and processed foods helps my mood and wellbeing so much. Feeling sluggish and slow metabolism has disappeared on keto. Must admit I haven't seen a doctor in 24 years but I think I'm doing ok.

[@GoFredBananass]

Good for you girl!

[@teesha123]

anyone has a link to the study he referenced that meat is healthier than junk food carbs?? I have a friend holding that over my head

[@xflyingtiger]

Wouldn't a plant based keto diet (70 fat) containing avocado, nut, seeds, greens, etc., actually fit in with an intermittent fasting protocol such as the 5 day partial fast (800 cals or less per day for 5 days) recommended by Dr. Valter Longo?

[@gg13308]

I have the same problem..i am always freezing, this is good to know. I will add more layers . now I am glad I live in the south

[@kulata]

Lmao. Thinking your freezing is due to lack of inflammation? I have a bridge to sell you😀😄

[@garrykimovich]

How can you do a keto diet with plants? Is it possible to eat enough low-carb vegetables to meet calorie needs?

[@Linkous12]

High fat plant foods. Nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut, etc. Paired with low carb vegetables like leafy greens that should put you into ketosis.

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

On top of carbs you have to be very careful with Omega-6/Omega-3 ratio and getting enough vitamin, essential fatty acids. Oxylates and some other compounds inhibit protein consumption. So it is quite a hard to accomplish nutritionally healthy diet. But apparently possible. I have not tried plant based keto yet.

[@BlackStar-ff2kn]

4:50 the fish eaten during the early 1900s is not the fish eaten today. Wake up guys.

[@erastvandoren]

BS

[@VeganCorie]

I agree that it is better to be on a keto diet while you are on a vegan diet than when you eat animal products.

[@regalsoundproductions255]

Give me bacon!

[@nancygatto4963]

He got a bit chocked up on the small amounts of animal products in the blue zones. I think it may be because the fact is the longest cultures do eat some meat.

[@davidthescottishvegan]

Great video & interview. I wouldn't eat the Keto diet even the plant based version. I prefer the whole plants foods based diet with no animal products and avoiding refined carbs and reducing your saturated fat intake and replacing with the good fats.

[@Equinox1.5]

Fascinating about temperature and inflammatory markers!

[@coris0923]

I always enjoy listening to you!! Thank you so much for your wisdom and guideance - you da best!!! 👍

[@fit-over-4028]

Keto is so popular because people love to hear good news about their bad habits.

[@Tubetart]

18.35 ... Klaus' phone is programmed to alert Klaus at the mention of any non vegans ... 😂

[@twinflamesundercoverthanks5274]

Can you post a link for this guy ??

[@michaelmore]

This was a really great interview, with some tough questions and honest answers. Reassuring, too, that I'm on the right track! One question though, I wonder why Dr. Kim Williams didn't mention evidence for reversal of heart disease, such as Pritikin or Esselstyn in support of plant based diets in addition to evidence from Adventists 2, etc, when you asked about basic evidence supporting a plant based diet for health?

[@cathygarneau]

and Dean Ornish before them...

[@m.fender2989]

Great interview!

[@damiexxi3163]

Ok 13:54...so white rice is bad and not good to eat on whole food plant based diet?

[@ceolbeats7182]

Damiexxi Join NutritionalFacts. Org all 3 no charge

[@Equinox1.5]

Really good questions in this interview.

[@michaeld4861]

Why did he say he was cold all the time? I'm less cold after cutting animals out of my diet. Better blood flow = less cold. Plus just being more active throughout the day will make you less cold, prolly again cause of blood flow.

[@tr3thaiii]

Nutrienal Yeast is great for B12 and other B Vitamins. But you can get everything you think you will like from olant based foods, just takes a small amount of research.

[@ms3er396]

Agree. Most plant based milks, etc. are enriched too. Most products across the spectrum even for non vegans are too because most people do lack many things.

[@andrewcavanagh3946]

Important also to point out that the average person eating the standard American diet have a whole lot more nutritional deficiencies than the average person eating a vegan diet. It's not hard to get all the nutrition you need on a vegan diet. You have to pay a little more attention to B12 and calcium in particular but that's hardly a big deal. On the standard American diet you'd be likely deficient in magnesium, potassium, fiber, vitamins A, C and E.

[@fiddamentrn2308]

Dr Williams is amazing. He studies the studies, the FACTS! He says, some people may do better with a small amount of animal products (he cannot). By small, we're talking less than three servings per week from all sources "organic or wild caught, no dairy" as Dr Popper says.

[@vcsmart4683]

Super happy and healthy your channel name is Plant Based and NOT Vegan Based.

[@mohanrgopal6097]

I was on animal Keto and used to jog 3 km on alternate days and twice a week of weight training but after 3 years + my health deteriorated - IBS, calcium deficiency, cramps, inflammation. Then, I switched to a whole-food plant diet- variety of boiled veggies, millets, soya, legumes, seeds, nuts, fruits etc. Now doing very good for the last 4 years - 61 years old, training in the gym twice a week for powerlifting, Olympic lifting, twice a week on animal flow, and once a week jog 2.5 to 3 km. Also in my free time, I work on few different type KZbin contents.

[@MrSuperbluesky]

Micro plastic in fish

[@boweygroen4741]

7:45 so is smoking if u smoke 1 cigarette every 2 days, doesnt make it healthy tho....

[@MrFlatTaxi]

Nobody should follow health advice from people who don’t look healthy

[@bewatermyfriend7355]

He doesn't look healthy? He looks maybe a bit tired but I bet it is so because he works a lot.

[@ms3er396]

appearance has nothing to do with it. lots of people who appear "healthy" in appearance actually are not.

[@kiaharper7172]

He's so adorable when he smiles and chuckles 😃

[@destroyedyouth2638]

The Problem is what about people with Epilepsy and Glut1 . I was on high Carb i got thin and in liked it but my epilepsy got very worse. Its pure frustration 😔

[@CastledarkDweller27]

"there are 2 types of cardiologists. vegan ones and those who haven't read the data." LOVE LOVE LOVE THAT!

[@josephshawa]

And now saturated fats have not only been absolved of causing CVD but deemed stroke protective as well. What do you have to say now doctor?

[@gigipizzuto4068]

Most of strokes hit meat and eggs eaters, not to mention milk and cheese. You keep believing what is convenient to your plate.

[@twinflamesundercoverthanks5274]

Great content

[@georgannecollett8047]

hi there did i hear right? 13 mins in are they both saying high carb is worse than high fat?....or is that just the result of a study?

[@PLANTBASEDNEWS]

If you look at the study that refers to processed carbs

[@georgannecollett8047]

@@PLANTBASEDNEWS oh..great thx

[@Jbone4681]

"If you are doing a ketogenic diet with plants, than It's not unsafe" Someone tell me how you are going to hit all your micronutrient RDI's doing a Plant based keto diet without a boat load of supplements

[@twinflamesundercoverthanks5274]

Searching for this for a while x

[@Larry30102]

It’s great to hear a rational voice in the cacophony of social media.

[@UncleJ2058]

Anybody know the b12 recommendations if you are over 60 and an ex smoker? Williams seem to indicate that b12 supplementation increases chance for lung cancer in that group.

[@lisabrown9574]

He said not to take to much, I take a b12 supplement 3 times a week, not every day.

[@natureasintended]

I thought the risk was for male smokers over 60. More on Dr Greger's b12 threads.

[@stoneywise3811]

i love this channel, its soo extremely funny that it helps me to stay keto. vegans really dont get that its about the sugar and ultra processed foods. we're on the same side and if every dirty meat eater would go keto the world would be way better as it is. Divide and conquerer is what food industry is doing. And they clearly succeed.

[@Namelessforever_]

Well said man

[@armani3762]

Vegan doctors dont recommend sugar or ultra processed foods either. The difference is animal foods are also unhealthy💀

[@siobhanhughes4587]

Does anyone know where I can read more about what he said that being cold is a sign of a healthy heart? I've noticed that since I started eating WFPB I have gotten colder and this really interests me

[@KMF3]

I don't understand how being cold is related to heart health. It seems to me it's a metabolic issue or hormonal issue related to thyroid.

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

By basal temp is around +34,5 °C (94 °F), down by 2-2,5 °C after starting the keto/LCHF OMAD.

[@miss55apple]

So hear I was thinking I was sick

[@ann7856]

I did go back because my A1C high. Triglyceride level was high, because I was eating not healthy vegan. Now I do keto vegan Whole Foods

[@zsrz4877]

I’m on keto. It lowered my high blood pressure. I stayed at or below 20 carbs. But I didn’t lose weight.

[@pete49327]

So confusing, re carbohydrates, Dr. McDougall recommends a very high carb diet from starchy vegetables, in particular potatoes, rice, corn, supplemented with smaller but consistent intake of veggies and fruits. He says that the body quickly adjusts to high complex carbs and able to maintain healthy sugar blood levels. He even says he cures close to 100% of his diabetic type 2 patients with his high carb diet regimen.

[@Vinito]

I don't think peanut or soy products are safe at the first place let alone you consume those as the major source of protein. Recently I tried eating less meat though and replaced it with high quality eggs, cheese and walnuts. I still continue eating meat since i don't believe you can have a sustainable keto diet on veggies alone.

[@johnsnow5264]

I can confirm that. Keto with lots of animal products can / will lead to arrhythmia and further to atrial fibrillation. It will start with muscle cramps and then the destruction is on its way. When you know how reactive carbonyl compounds are then one detrimental mechanism of keto is self explanatory.

[@michaeljames2084]

I eat small portions of flesh. I'm 99% vegan.

[@bugavila2314]

You can't be part time vegan. Period.

[@michaeljames2084]

@@bugavila2314 according to who?

[@bugavila2314]

@@michaeljames2084 according to logic and common sense

[@michaeljames2084]

@@bugavila2314 I'm not with that train of thought. Do you. Be happy. Live in peace. I'm out.

[@bugavila2314]

@@michaeljames2084 the same to you bro. 🤗💚💚

[@heindattel3919]

Thanks for the clip. According to 13:50 white rice is worst for your health ? And he said white rice...white sugar and white what ? Flower? Thanks for any answer

[@SunnySecular]

Flour

[@ScottCousland]

If Dr Williams made sure he got an amount of iodine needed to fulfill all of our bodies need (somewhere between 12 - 50 mg daily), he would not be cold. It is estimated that the traditional okinawan diet contains about 200 mg daily.

[@anthonyv7334]

9:18-45 “I’m freezing all the time” “you wouldn’t believe the amount of layers I’m wearing right now to just sit in room temperature” I’m vegan but this is weird and abnormal I don’t know why he just casually said that without being questioned this sounds insane.

[@vcsmart4683]

He is not getting enough protein. Just keep upping your protein level and this problem will stop. If not, then something else is missing in your diet.

[@aprilracine]

VC Smart I froze on a meat based diet and I still freeze on a WFPB diet. I’m just meant to be in warmer weather.

[@natureasintended]

You've missed off his reference to preferring being cold due to the benefits of low inflammation, compared to being warm because of inflammation; risk factors for heart disease, etc. It is normal for humans to feel cold outside of a tropical climate, except if eating a diet which causes inflammation and has health risks.

[@aprilracine]

I’m in Michigan. I don’t turn the a/c on until it hits 80 degrees in the house. Maybe it’s a black thing. My husband is white and he love when it’s cold 🥶.

[@natureasintended]

@@aprilracinewhat type of diet does he eat?