Noam Chomsky on the Sunrise Movement

[@ssmith2019]

Always speaking truth to power . . . Thank you Noam ! ! !

[@howwrongwewere]

i have never been so proud to be a part of something as i am to be part of sunrise. and Noam chomsky praising our efforts is the greatest compliment i could imagine.

[@myroc1]

It's genuinely terrifying how people are afraid to even talk about this because the end of the world is debatable and polarizing on some level to fifty percent of Americans. They either don't believe it at all or don't think it can be stopped. What a sad fucking end to humanity.

[@myroc1]

@pitu toup polarization is simply two groups that are in complete disagreement. I find it terrifying that this is a polarizing issue. Think of my comment as saying. The theocrats are polarizing the issue by claiming it's fake or too late or whatever. Your reply doesn't negate what I've said, it compliments it.

[@myroc1]

You're critique if me saying it's unfortunate this is polarizing is that it isn't polarizing, but rather the right wings ability to fall back in theocracy. Which doesn't actually challenge the very real fact that the issue is polarizing to Americans. If I've misunderstood something please correct me.

[@np4653]

If grownups can't do it then children must. For their own future, and for the future of their children. For the future of mankind.

[@fhhfhdfdhhdhhdfhdf138]

grownups don't wanna lose their jobs lol there is a global climate strike on 15th march by kids, supported by over 12,000 german, austrian and swiss scientists. www.scientists4future.org/statement-en/

[@BanBootlicking]

@fhhfhdf dhhdhhdfhdf I'll take part in it! 😎

[@stephenhargrave7922]

Kids have no experience and are the easiest toakopulate. Kids didn't do suit. China and re UN funded sunrise and momentum group. They are controlled opposition to fuck up our country. You idiots are stabbing yourselves in the back. How does taxing working class people 600trillion dollars and switching to electric supposed to fix the environment? Electricity is driven. Y fossil fuels you morons

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

It shows your representatives don’t represent you but their donors and special interests. These politicians are concerned with status and power, not their office. Immediate recall should be implemented. And it’s jarring how they dismiss scientific professionals. They remind me of the Church in medieval times. I’m kind of surprised another Technocratic movement hasn’t arisen to address the Kakistocracy.

[@justdev8965]

Well said Ruben!

[@coreycox2345]

It's worse than dismissing science. These monied interests bring in fake scientists. Perhaps technocrats could be the ones to save us?

[@parhhesia]

Not all representatives. That's Chomsky's point about the Sunrise movement.

[@coreycox2345]

Sean Maher, There are some topics that no politicians ever will represent me on. Tulsi Gabbard is a brave woman emerging in the public eye at the right time with the proper credentials to change our destructive path. I have worked with some politicians who were geniuses at swinging the debate in a direction that made all the difference. In my experience, this is rare.

[@parhhesia]

@@coreycox2345 Then support the ones doing something real. They need all the support they can get.

[@debj1356]

Professor Chomsky hit the nail on the head, they are criminally insane.

[@elihockett5385]

As a sunriser nothing makes me more happy than this

[@Skylarking00]

Chomsky: National treasure.

[@65minimom]

I love kids! Dreams are their reality. They believe! So they do it

[@snuffyballparks6501]

The problem is that old people mostly have the power and they only give lip service to a future they will never see.

[@thewolf14]

Their posterity

[@WeltschmerzvonGavagai]

republicans will pray

[@vaibhavgupta20]

Thoughts and prayers.

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

always: thks for the u/l and the source.

[@thosethatcan]

Sunrise Florida could use those smart kids..and fams ..

[@imhoisntworthmuch5754]

"The Environmental Protection Agency wants to change how it classifies "glider vehicles" - heavy trucks that are built by pairing a new chassis with an old diesel engine and powertrain. The move would keep the EPA from imposing Clean Air Act emissions standards on the trucks."

[@imhoisntworthmuch5754]

"The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is proposing to repeal the emission standards and other requirements for heavy-duty glider vehicles, glider engines, and glider kits based on a proposed interpretation of the Clean Air Act (CAA) under which glider vehicles would be found not to constitute “new motor vehicles” within the meaning of CAA section 216(3), glider engines would be found not to constitute “new motor vehicle engines” within the meaning of CAA section 216(3), and glider kits would not be treated as “incomplete” new motor vehicles. Under this proposed interpretation, EPA would lack authority to regulate glider vehicles, glider engines, and glider kits under CAA section 202(a)(1)."

[@j.d.o5709]

I honestly feel bad for Prof. Chomsky at times. Literally spent his entire life speaking truth to power and so much has stayed exactly the same. Political status quo haven’t even budged on climate change. Must be so exhausting and demoralizing to watch.

[@imdoc7872]

It has not stayed the same. It has gotten worst. We are living in our coffin.

[@aholland27]

❤️❤️ Noam ❤️❤️

[@breakingbinds]

The children aspect of this greatly reminds me or Doris Lessings book Shikasta, near the end.

[@christophercornelius5250]

Does anyone know which document he is referring to? The one the Transportation Bureau produced?

[@DarkKnightOmega]

I need to read that department of transportation report he talks about. If someone has a link please post.

[@guydreamr]

"We know how much Trump loves walls" LMAO

[@robertbertrand9447]

I'm down with change. Make me an electric car for 16'000.00 Give me a grant to solar power my home. Make the rich pay way more for their carbon footprint

[@rayraymontoya78]

We're fucked.

[@JavierFernandez01]

Good kids.

[@chaplainkelly2025]

I understand the dangers of Global Climate Change. Does Noam Chomsky have an opinion on the effects of GSM (Grand Solar Minimum) on our climate? Thank you.

[@botarakutabi1199]

Grand solar minimum?

[@chaplainkelly2025]

Botar, thank you for asking. In the simplest terms, a solar minimum phase is a period of time in which the sun’s activity is reduced to its lowest level and there are very few sunspots.A grand solar minimum isn’t your average, every-11-year solar minimum. It’s been likened to a mini-Ice Age. A grand solar minimum can make the sun appear a little dimmer and can make the planet a little cooler. A new study predicts that the next grand solar minimum could see the sun with almost a 7% reduction in light and heat - and this is 7% below the normal solar minimum. So pretty darned cold. Historians believe that a grand solar minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715. That event was named the Maunder Minimum after the scientists who studied it at the time. It got so cold that the Thames River in England froze solid. The Baltic Sea also froze and the Swedes were able to invade the Danes by marching across the frozen sea.

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

@@chaplainkelly2025 your facts are exact. your argument is a factor that physicists today know more than we do and the MIT community are fully aware of. I played along.. last comment on the maundeer minimum.

[@nemoaspieman369]

I believe in climate change and I agree that we have caused major devastation to a plethora of complex systems that we take for granted, just to mention a blatant one, eg. the concrete jungles and the bi products of their creation and the displacement of all the water away from those centres affecting the climate cycle in the region and overall. I know that the green city projects around the world are tackling these issues and adopting tactics and strategies of naturally occuring systems of climate science and maintaining the localised rainfall in the cities so utilising convection currents to help cool the city and maintain the water cycle and also as a natural filtration of pollutants in the air while adopting new technologies in efficient building designs and sustainable strategies in energy collection and distribution that have been developed in the 20th and 21st centuries. And this will never be enough compared to the greater contributions to the distruction of our shared environment, just consider the Amazon dessert but that being said no one ever mentions a few major contributing factor at play, like the polar reversal of the earth and the systemic processes going on below our feet and how it affects the water on, in and above the earth and within our atmosphere not to mention the reduced protection from space weather on certain areas of the globe due to weak spots in our magnetosphere (eg. above Brazil) and also our solar systems orbit through our galaxy where we are moving out of an area of protection, that in layman's terms it is like moving out of cloud cover and exposing the earth to greater amounts of space weather. What we have to appreciate is that the arc of time that humans have occupied on earth is not long enough to collate the data required even if we had the science and technologies right at the beginning and is inconsequential if we had data spanning the last 10000, 20000 or even 100000 years, because for this greater arc of time we would need data covering the last million years to have the resolution necessary to correctly understand what is truly going on. So, do our perceptions demonstrate the aspects of this greater arc of time...rhetorical, no and as always the intellectual community and scientists have over simplified the complexity of these contributing factors. I am very disappointed in the short sightedness and blindness of our current models to consider these major aspects and possibly greater ones that I have not considered. So all I have to say is climate change is real but not limited to the archaic and over simplified perceptions we have accepted, it often makes me think that it is possibly due to the aspect of the conversation that these bigger perceptions would introduce, painting a bleak outlook of the future of our planet and ultimately prove how we have less control on what can be done to combat the inherent challenges of a model like this poses for all life on this planet. I can see how that reality is not acceptable for the status quo of our global economy and social stability. I just hope by the time we realise that it isn't too late to implement changes to our lives to survive the reality it will impose on us. I hope this is understood, my intention is not to fear monger but to have a deeper look at the greater aspects of reality. Thanks for sharing and making it possible for us to have this discussion in a place that reaches the public eye that forums on this subject just do not reach or include the greater community. /respect

[@gotaijigo]

is there any source-link to this document from the transportation bureau?

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

posted a couple of quotes in main..

[@randyellis6924]

@@imhoisntworthmuch5441 I don't see them, could you please post them here?

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

@@randyellis6924 pls look well in the main comments.

[@magicforest71]

In case you didn’t find it earlier: www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/ld_cafe_my2021-26_deis_0.pdf

[@imhoisntworthmuch5754]

@@magicforest71 not sure about a link to an executive branch.

[@MrApplewine]

After watching this video I am now a Communist. Thank You.

[@wouterhendrycks2564]

anyone have a link to this document?

[@randyellis6924]

It's linked to in this WaPo story about it www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-sees-a-7-degree-rise-in-global-temperatures-by-2100/2018/09/27/b9c6fada-bb45-11e8-bdc0-90f81cc58c5d_story.html?noredirect=on&.2767dfa6d334

[@wouterhendrycks2564]

@@randyellis6924 thanks

[@johndarson5316]

Chomsky is exaggerating the scale of the climate threat. Huge fan of Chomsky, but it’s pretty hard to take it seriously when he pretends he doesn’t know that the kids walking out of school are being put up to it by staff.

[@greatmcluhansghost7134]

hows anybody got a chance to even listen to this when they are busy working, video gaming, watching baseball, bookfacing, following nonsense mainstream news and consuming? Let alone even doing something about it.

[@65minimom]

Advertising you sound like Ralph Nader :) watch him on saturdays

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

over 10k views might impact thousands of others. but point well taken.

[@greatmcluhansghost7134]

not my intention but thanks@@65minimom

[@MrTageamu]

Noam Chomsky has sadly become senile :-(

[@imdoc7872]

Thanks to global warming my north florida property will soon be water front 💵💵

[@Jomaso71]

Fossil fuel, is a problem but not The problem. The real problem is nuclear testing it is the number one, we could have free energy from the sky and those are the facts. But how do you stop the wars when the people are brainwashed beyond reproach... Well we all have to bring in the energy of love into the picture.

[@StevenMichals0812]

Trumps plan is to destroy life on Earth while saving his golf courses.

[@deplaneetegmont]

All 18 holes are in his head.

[@TheAwillz]

I smell something suspicious. 1. How did a children’s movement organise, strategise and effect it’s will in such a manner and in such a time frame? 2. Why are investors with competent history’s investing in an industry that’s dying? 3. Isn’t it funny that oil prices (that underpin the American economy) are going to increase because oil will then be extracted by less people who will be leaving the market due to the change in energy policy.

[@65minimom]

TheAwillz of course the kids had parental support, so what? They are planning to steal VZ oil - People need gov money to convert to green

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

so they are planning an overthrow to help convert to renewable? man.. good thing I avoid clickbaits for comments like this. not that mine are enlightened mind you.

[@viewer7200]

Chomsky is losing his mind... Life was doing just fine 125,000 years ago. Vehicle emissions are a tiny fraction of carbon footprint - it is the industry + power stations. Sea level rises by

[@0MVR_0]

Surely your use of duhhh is not to indicate the tomfoolery you are engaging in but to attempt to chastise people who actually have legitimate concerns over the fact that sea level will continue to rise and people will not stop going inland.

[@0MVR_0]

Forgive us for rejecting the preventable artificial gradual extinction of all life as a viable option for the future.

[@0MVR_0]

Right because every affected species will readapt to sea-life.

[@0MVR_0]

The time until something significant change occurs seems somewhat irrelevant. You will have to excuse any sarcasm you picked up on in my last comment as that was not intended, in fact I recognize that the resulting shoreline shift will take quite some time, yet the effects seem irreversible so the point is mute.

[@0MVR_0]

Please detail how to practically return the planet to 'normalcy' or at least habitable standards once climate change takes effect.

[@alterkooper431]

Isn't it funny that he insists on living in cruel capitalist society but not in a communist paradise...?!

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

Alter Kooper he’s an Anarchist. He’s not imposing his ideology by force. Also Capitalism is garbage and the worst mode of production for a sustainable market economy. That’s right Capitalism is not synonymous with markets. I’m sure if there were a Revolutionary Catalonia place somewhere in the world he would be there living with fellow comrades and intellectuals.

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

Agnaye Ochani it’s one of those “you criticize society, yet you live in society” types.

[@DrMrManGuy]

Isn't it funny what a painful moron you are?

[@65minimom]

Agnaye Ochani same reason we are, born here. He is a sociolist not a communists, difference = watch dr richard wolff or listen to Bernie

[@thejubieexperience]

The freedom to criticize your government is what democracy is all about. If you don't like it, you can live in one of those "communist" countries

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

Oh please. These "97% of scientists" has been saying that the earth is going to melt for THIRTY years now! We had *just ten years left* back in 1990!

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

@Chips Handon "30 foot rise in sea levels" blablabla. Whatever. They were WRONG.

[@sullivansongz]

Mmmmm....melt...seriously??

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

@@sullivansongz Mmmmm…30 foot sea rise...seriously??

[@sullivansongz]

Melt??? Think you might be one of those squidgy melty emotionally types😍😍😍😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

@@sullivansongz That's all you got to back this nonsense? Do you understand "figure of speech". How about addressing the actual POINT which is that these "climate scientists" have been wrong OVER and OVER again.