“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ” ― George Orwell
@richbright5405 жыл бұрын
Failures to expel the colonial economy. *Corporations*
@Paul-pj5qu5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the US government is largely acting in the service of corporations (money, money, money) not the people.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
Colonial economy means that the corporations are foreign controlled, not that corporations are bad per se. You have to have corporations, who do you think is going to operate a humongous system of refineries, shipping, exploration and oil production & marketing? A bunch of hicks who ride a donkey to work? Venezuela needs needs university trained and experienced experts in finance, engineering and science & management who make high salaries just like any other oil giant. They just need them to be acting in the interests of Venezuela not overseas stockholders. They should take a lesson from Singapore, hire outsiders to get it right, train natives to take over, and invest everything back into diversifying the economy.
@richbright5405 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 *Personhood* (People) Taxpayers!! Remedy ? The State/Federal Government (sells)-(gifts) these taxdollar created products to Corporations, Individuals! The Investors are entitled to fair compensation and return!! The Taxpayers bear the initial cost!!! Google, Facebook, Monsanto, Apple, Microsoft, I.B.M., Domino, Boeing, Martin, Dow, M.I.T., add more? All publicly held Corporations!! All Patents erroneously Attributed or in the possession of the United States Corporation are to be "repatriate" in Business English. repatriateverb [ T ] uk /riːˈpætrieɪt/ us /riːˈpeɪtrieɪt/ FINANCE to send or bring money or profits back to your own country: repatriate earnings/money/profits. The erroneously endowed or attributed Personhood status of Corporations should, shall and will be abolished negated ruled unjust.
@richbright5405 жыл бұрын
*Cap-it-al* *One_Corporation* $15.00 MOST MINIMUM WAGE IS ALL THE RAGE! Time it is let's turn the Page Thank you I do. For the world that you view. See liked I do. Through many not few. Living in wealth. All cares on a shelf. While we're on the floor. Making room for more. Our poor my friends just can't ignore. See I live out here in all of this mess knowing not how!! Take a guess!! Still shaming an blaming the homeless or displaced?? Look all around it's right in your face!!! Shareholders need Profit! More Profit!! They always need Profit. This is a big problem with Capitalism!! The worker can be replaced with a machine. When nobody is left but the shareholders Profitability will be a non factor ((new)) fix This is no longer a possibility. Capitalism as we knew it must die. Even if there was a way to remove government subsidy of these mega corporations. The elite have already cashed in worthless paper for solid gold or other hard assets. If this system crashed today the elite would not suffer! The poor and what is left of the middle class will bare the burden. After a short period of complete chaos and the starvation, death of millions. These Old Families with very old gold will buy back the Throne and we will hang up this phone. Creation of jobs?? Let's think about that!!! Self driving cars, busses, trains, trucks and planes!! Thirty Six million jobs lost ! Farm tractors, lawnmowers, combines, seeders, spreaders all heavy and light construction and farming equipment completely automated!!! Sixty million jobs lost!!! Online stores!! No need for small local stores of any sort!! All in one warehouse with completely automated pickers and loaders of autonomous vehicles!!? Thirty two million jobs lost!! Building?? Three D printers now printing super luxury condominiums and warehouses!? Eighty Six million jobs lost!! Fast food and convenient stores?? Now are completely automated Do not apply!!!! Groceries?? If you can't print what you need call a drone to your home services now available!!!! And for the Great Capitalists?? Not much left that hasn't been exploited!! T See we the people have no jobs!! Millions on the public dole!! The end goal of capitalism¿? Was there any thought to what happens at the end???? People think of your children and the next seven generations!!! Are we the living caretakers of this Earth?? Are we doing everything possible to insure a better quality of life for future generations??? What is left???
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@richbright540 - Two questions: 1. What work have you done to earn a living? 2. Can you name three serious books on history that helped teach you this clattering way of thinking about what is going on in society? PS When you were in elementary school were you forced to read then write bad poetry? I was, and the dislike stays with a person, so I wonder why you are still a fan. Btw I'm a hard Leftist, I'm just very very well read in history philosophy humanities science and literature.
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
You won't hear any of this on "the news"
@refusoagaino68245 жыл бұрын
It's down to that now. If you want to know anything factual, you have to dig it out of an avalanche of fluff, and decide for yourself if it's true, and objective. Napoleon said it, but I think it's been repeated many times, "History is written by the victors". Probably half of what we view as 'history' too, is 'feel good' news on the record. This started when someone very near the Vatican invented the printing press in the 16th (?) century. The pope knew how to read and play to, a crowd already after centuries of practice. State of the art propaganda dissemination systems of the time, were churches and their congregations. (and still are in places) The printing machine was truly 'manna from heaven'. They could formalize the message in Rome to maintain control of it's roll-out, and best of all, they had their people to read it at the other end, locked into non disclosure agreements from hell. The recipients for the most part were ignorant, and had to be told the message, they couldn't figure it out for themselves. Skip ahead to 2020 and Fat Donnie. And Fox News. It's a joke isn't it? I hope so.
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
@@refusoagaino6824 But only the elite laugh at the punchline.
@rogerdodger84155 жыл бұрын
Because it's all bull shit for weak minds.
@jamesdragonforce5 жыл бұрын
What’s “news”? There’s tons of propaganda, no real “news”.
@rogerdodger84155 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdragonforce When, you sit and listen to a Trump speech. The entire thing. Then, the next day you see them take a tiny slice of it. Maybe a few sentences, and put that on TV and distort what he was really talking about, it's then that you understand why they he calls them fake news. THEY want to decide our President, they don't want to report accurately and let YOU DECIDE. For that reason alone, I could support Trump, next election.
@NyetTube5 жыл бұрын
If Bernie actually is allowed to win then I want Noam in D.C. as one of Bernie's advisors.
@AuntieWar5 жыл бұрын
@Harry F Chomsky is often described as an Anarchist or libertarian socialist, but I’ve never heard him called a socialist, could you provide a link to this statement please?
@blackflagsnroses60135 жыл бұрын
Gerardo Ojeda he’s also a libertarian socialist, an anarchist
@coreycox23455 жыл бұрын
@Judean People's Front I doubt that someone can be too old to be an advisor.
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
Well, Noam just destroyed Bernie's Venezuela tweet which parroted CIA talking points. And I doubt very much Noam would even accept such a post nor would Bernie listen to his advice. It's an anarcho-syndicalist vs social democrat divide.
@balajis16025 жыл бұрын
Then...World will be a better place
@Otoño245 жыл бұрын
Listening to Chomsky is like listening to a soul possessed with sage wisdom. What a beautiful mind nature has endowed him with! And he is so unafraid to speak the truth as he sees fit.
@30minutesLess Жыл бұрын
Lol dumbace
@zockerbit10305 жыл бұрын
Venezuela shows the dangers with corporate media and the total meltdown of objective information
@deschutesmaple45205 жыл бұрын
Well said. So many naive people still tune into Rachel Maddow, Mornin' Joe, Colbert (he sold out!) etc and passively believe them. How anybody could believe corporate news outlets like Fox, CNN, CBS etc after everything that has been exposed. Shows you how fucking dumb people are :-(
@alabastardmasterson5 жыл бұрын
The masses will always be too lazy and trusting. You can take every citizen's rights if it's done in the correct manner, they will offer up every possession, weapon, dissenting thought-if asked the correct way... once the spirit is broken, you take their soul and you will not have to ask
@ericholdsworth66115 жыл бұрын
bullshit maybe you should go ask the people who are leaving in droves how they feel
@Daniel-pr4uk5 жыл бұрын
The only reason they are getting away with this is because they have complete control over the flow of information and what the majority of people think is happening. If you do any search on google (which is where 99.9% of humanity search and get their information) the only narrative allowed and shown there is the official corporate-military narrative of our ruling plutocrats. Everything else is either censored downright or buried in page 17 of the results (where no one will find it). If things are ever going to change, it must be known worldwide the way they manipulate information and deceive us, AND there must be an easy way for people to find information that is NOT dependant on their controlled outlets (like google, facebook, cnn, nbc, nytimes, washpost etc.)
@ericholdsworth66115 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-pr4uk yes daniel but somehow this guy slips through the cracks because he is not the corporate narrative that you speak of, and i just saw bigfoot outside of a hobby lobby in in rhode island and he was eating a chic fil a sandwich so even bigfoot is part of the conspiracy god help us all
@MarkTheLamplighter5 жыл бұрын
Sad that Chomsky isn’t interviewed more often on the news.. this man is a treasure.
@pedrokantor39975 жыл бұрын
I know especially given the fact that he's getting pretty old and before you know it, he'll be dead.
@dorianphilotheates37695 жыл бұрын
The LAMPLIGHTER - Interviewed on the news?! You mean the same mainstream media news run by the multi-billion dollar corporate oligopolies? Why on earth would they do that? Do they have a fetiche for cutting their own throats? That would be like the Soviets supplying arms to the mujaheddin; like the Wehrmacht giving tanks to the Polish cavalry; like the Israelis passing the PLO the keys to the nukes; like the Kriegsmarine giving the RN the code to ‘Enigma’; like Napoleon lending the Duke of Wellington a few hundred cannon on the eve of Waterloo; like the IJN announcing their impending attack on the U.S. Fleet at Pearl Harbor; like Lee ordering the Confederacy to lay down its arms as Sherman made his way southwards; like Ike giving Rommel a sneak preview of the plans for ‘Operation Overlord’; like the Ottomans in 1821 deciding it would be a damn neighbourly gesture to hand out muskets to the Greek insurrectionists; like Leonidas widening the pass of Thermopylae a bit for Xerxes’ Immortals; like Alexander informing Darius III of his order of battle just before Gaugamela; like Caesar giving safe passage to Vercingetorix at Alesia; like the Trojans leaving the Scaean Gates slightly ajar for the night; like the British offering to buy India’s homespun cloth at a premium and lifting the salt tax; like the ‘Lannisters’ inviting the ‘King of the North’ to take the ‘Iron Throne’ off their hands; like Walmart insisting on paying their employees a living wage with full benefits; like fossil fuel companies advocating for stiffer legislation against fracking; like multinationals pushing for higher corporate taxes at all costs; like my Italian barber assuring me that I’m not in need of yet another haircut; like the local drunk refusing a free drink from an appreciative bartender; like a militant vegan offering to perform the Paschal sacrifice; like...well, you get the picture.
@tommydudley41035 жыл бұрын
Noam Chomsky always provides facts, in a non-bias, informative way... Respect mate!
@tomcat86625 жыл бұрын
Bull shit. The humanitarian crisis happened BEFORE the sanctions. To say otherwise is comparable to taking a fat line of Russian media and snorting it up your left nostril. What Chomsky does in his free time is his own business. But publicly lying about the root causes of the suffering of millions is disrespectful to those sitting on the wrong end of this despotic regime.
@Agenteanti-Matrix.5 жыл бұрын
LIE LIE LIER. Lets read real informativos my friend
@tranquil875 жыл бұрын
@@tomcat8662 Sanctions go back to Obama in 2013 you imbecile. There was no humanitarian crisis.
@jamessunderland18765 жыл бұрын
Obama declared Venezuela a threat to the national security of the US during his second term causing complications with credit and loans, there were frequent brutal killings of Chavista politicians like Robert Serra and looking even further back there was the PDVSA strike after the 2002 coup which froze the economy in its tracks. Almost 20 years of verifiable foreign and domestic policy that was explicitly designed to sabotage the economy. Noam is 100% right on this.
@bearbaler14565 жыл бұрын
Chomsky is the Don!!!
@blackflagsnroses60135 жыл бұрын
Love his cool calculated logic. Everyone else fall to tribalisms and emotions
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
Ruben Avalos chomsky has no vested interest so objective
@Fralmond5 жыл бұрын
But Ruben, humanity IS tribal. And profoundly emotional. These have been hard-wired for at least 100, 000 years.
@blackflagsnroses60135 жыл бұрын
Fralmond then again humans for the longest period of their existence have lived in Stateless small communities based on relative equal distribution. Not to say there weren’t conflicts between communities, but the progression of civilization and social organization is towards freedom and the abandonment of tribalisms, and other divisive classifications. Human nature is a tough one to pin down. But what is true I think is as Chomsky says, people are parts nurture, parts nature. And ultimately what is our inclinations is towards freedom.
@Fralmond5 жыл бұрын
Ruben, Bravo. Agreed. But you cite a period some thousands of years ago. Since then, we have retained tribal qualities everywhere in our cultural inclinations to group together. Strong human inclinations toward self-interest, violence, domination seem ever-present. I do not like it, but it exists. I couldn’t agree more on Chomsky’s accuracy, but he seldom provides advice on remediation. What are we to do? Stop our USA imperialism? What country would consider relinquishing power? And many others, China, Russia, Iran, would step forward to fill the power- void. As you know, certain qualities of human nature have been transmitted for thousands of years; some good, some not! Human nature is a profoundly powerful force, not subject to change without the strongest discipline. The idea (in vogue) that nurture can somehow overcome the most base qualities of our natures is very questionable. Frank
@benjaminr89615 жыл бұрын
It is all bull shit. Socialism destroyed that country and nothing else.
@thegreatpotenza30345 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noam! Your great!
@jimioutback5 жыл бұрын
You're (i.e. abbreviation of "you are"...great: "your" is possessive as in "your bike"). No offence intended.
@thegreatpotenza30345 жыл бұрын
@@jimioutback Lets be thankful people were able to understand my comment. Usually on my lSd and opium benders i only speak donkey. EeHaw
@boutchie065 жыл бұрын
My computer replaces my spelling incorrectly a lot of times. Sometimes I forget to reread my comment to see if my iPad thinks it’s smarter than me.
@mattm37295 жыл бұрын
Dude, c’mon - no need for grammar nazism on what is his very vocal deference to the great Chomsky.
@joeschmoe11935 жыл бұрын
If he was so great he'd be speaking out against the current regime not making excuses for them.
@rudiesan_895 жыл бұрын
You ought to name the title as... The oracle of truth spoke about Venezuela. Love you Chomsky.
@dancingbubbles11265 жыл бұрын
Love you Chomchom
@davidm1365 жыл бұрын
Sad he is not allowed to be an analyst on the corporate media broadcasts Our world be a better place if he could spread his knowledge to the public
@busterbiloxi38335 жыл бұрын
He's the worst analyst out there, talking down to people with withering contempt. No thanks.
@np46535 жыл бұрын
Hands of Venezuela!!! Chomsky is a rare example of non-biased and critical thinking.
@mysigt_5 жыл бұрын
np 1993 non-biased = confirming your biases
@joeschmoe11935 жыл бұрын
Yeah let Venezuela die. LOL.
@apanaccione15 жыл бұрын
Chomsky is a polished turd! He really doesn't understand the events that happened during the Chavez years, and he only presents facts that support his love for socialism. Notice how he never mentions the meddling of Cuba and Russia. It's always the US that causes the "problem". The country was much better off because of the US and it's engineering and economic legacy that the Venezuelan people benefited from. This video is only a week old, and he never mentioned the corruption and the human rights violations that the Chavez and Maduro regimes have perpetrated on the Venezuelan people. These are facts that he purposefully left out, yet well documented by many countries.
@guillermocrespo81445 жыл бұрын
@@apanaccione1 Well said. This Chomsky idiot really makes me angry...
@dt3sh5 жыл бұрын
@FooBar Maximus likely five
@kennethmarshall3065 жыл бұрын
“Journals for the opposition”. That is definitely true of the BBC.
@robertwilkinson60505 жыл бұрын
The CBC is the same bullshit
@raggedlionpress20245 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's people like Noam that should be in politics but don't want to be. Such clarity and balance. Most political commentators have too much emotional baggage that tarnishes any kernel of truth they might be uttering. Thank God Noam is here to help us find out what's really going on without any agenda. He makes us all stronger!
@nomad93385 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this, a very welcome independent analysis of Venezuela. Noam Chomsky, voice of reason.
@sphericon35 жыл бұрын
We are such a long long way from confronting the most urgent question, namely how to keep the oil in the ground.
@nicolasm4005 жыл бұрын
Some voices and movements are doing a good job of underlying the urgency, the next 10 years will be very important, it will determine the rest of our lives
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
sphericon - follow the money - WHY we are not investing in Green rewables
@fhhfhdfdhhdhhdfhdf1385 жыл бұрын
you read the article from theonion: "ExxonMobil CEO Depressed After Realizing Earth Could End Before They Finish Extracting All The Oil"?
@noisepuppet5 жыл бұрын
That would mean confronting the prospect of long term economic contraction, which requires reorganizing the economy so that value circulates for some reason other than the prospect of growth. No one in any position of authority wants to face up to that. Human survival depends on it.
@KomradeKlonopin3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasm400 we are now 20% through the ten years and things are only getting worse and worse
@giofanduiz54615 жыл бұрын
Completely agree...Chavez and Maduro have tried to industrialize but the relentless war from the US and the oligarch opposition have made it impossible. The US has not allowed a Korea in Southamerica.
@derflitermouse89765 жыл бұрын
What facts do you rely on for your claim? How is it in the US interest to keep South America down? Wouldn't it be much better to have close by countries free and prosperous? So you could trade with them? So you could visit them? So their poor don't keep coming in and taking jobs and services that are meant for US citizens? Follow the money in Venezuela and it leads straight to CUBA! Think about that while you answer my questions. CUBA likes Venezuela under their thumb. CUBA doesn't want Venezuela to be prosperous and strong because it would result in CUBA getting the boot. CUBA, Chavez and Maduro are the bad actors in the turmoil going on in Venezuela. The US doesn't care because the US government is dealing with MUCH, MUCH bigger things like China, Russia, NAFTA and Trillion dollar trade agreements. To the US, Venezuela is an annoyance not a major focus point in foreign policy... get real!
@pedrokantor39975 жыл бұрын
That's the Monroe doctrine for ya!
@giofanduiz54615 жыл бұрын
@@derflitermouse8976 it is called imperialism. The US has always seen Latin America as the source of resources to support his power stance, not caring about the peoples of Latinoamerica. Dont you know the history. From Mexico to Brasil they have taken territory, resources, impose presidernts, depose democratic presidents who wanted to use resources for their people first... the only rebel countries that survive are Cuba and Venezuela. Bolivia as well but the pressure has been less because they have less resources and the opposition is not as traitor as Venezuela's The US does not have an interest on having industrialized economies in the South they want access to most of natural resources and want to keep oligarquies that maintain the access to natural resources and the doors open to large american companies that also have privileged access to local markets with little or no competition. The Cuba and Venezuela relationship is of collaboration. And if one was to dominafe anither one it would be Venezuela imposing on Cuba as iVenezuela is richer in economy and rssources. Of course now with the economic crisis exacerbated by the US economic war Venezuela is not able to help provide more affordable oil to the whole caribean region that relied on ir. Have you seen the related crisis in haiti nowdaygs...they can better use any aid crumbles the US want to share. Read the history and then make your comments
@derflitermouse89765 жыл бұрын
@@giofanduiz5461 the '70s called and they want you to join us in the 2010s. China, North Korea, Syria, Russia, NAFTA... South and Central America aren't on anyone's radar except for the illegal immigration issue. It is in the USA's interest to have healthy, self sustaining countries as neighbors. The meddling that the US was doing in SA in the 70s and 80s was in direct response to the Russian intrusions into SA visa ve Cuba, Nicaragua, etc... With Russia ignoring SA the USA is ignoring SA too.
@derflitermouse89765 жыл бұрын
Do you want a South American country with Nukes?
@alejandrob67615 жыл бұрын
Its interesting what he said, how in many respects Venezuelas crisis is due to the fact of not getting rid of the colonial economy, an economy dependent on the European Market and still providing the same resources to this market and its institutions and industries that it did during colonial oppression. As Fanon said, there needs to be a complete reevaluation of the resources beneath their feet and a more radical application of socialism rather than a social policies within a capitalist economic framework, as chavismo was.
@harryf27055 жыл бұрын
If you had something that worked for 110 years but fails suddenly the answer is found around events that coincided with the down turn not 110 years ago. What happened at the time of down turn? Could it be nationalizing oil? So all the money that was spread out among the people was now in the hands of government.
@greenbrickbox33925 жыл бұрын
@@harryf2705Kind of an ahistorical view of Venezuela since Chavez came to power due to an inability of the neoliberal government to manage the 80s economic crisis which lasted through the 90s and led to near 100% inflation and poverty rising over a decade from around 36% to 66% and GDP dropping to 1960s levels. In many ways that crisis was similar to the current one, however Venezuela's failure to control its public debt and inflation during its boom years really screwed it over as it has put itself at the mercy of the US who it has adversarial relations with while also relying on it as is its greatest trading partner and controller of the international financial system which is currently squeezing Venezuela in the middle of its crisis. Its interesting to compare Venezuela's policies with Bolivia which is also socialist and hydrocarbon based but managed to avoid crisis through having more fiscal prudence to manage debt and inflation during the 2000s oil boom.
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
greenbrickbox Well said! Chavez invested too much in oil, no balance in economy, same as US is doing now but also with military industrial complex / petro dollars - look at our debt! Russia, China & Iran & others are scheming to devalue dollar by using other currencies as did Maduro, reason for Guaido. expect US to collapse soon, all great empires same path to death - Greg Palast did great piece on Thom Hartmann yesterday.
@ЯСмерть-ф5п5 жыл бұрын
alejandro B it wasn't REAL socialism
@bearbaler14565 жыл бұрын
Indeed, and they need to diversify their economy. Given freedom from selfish, greedy and ruthless Western powers, they have every chance of being able to achieve this. Worker owned cooperatives are the way forward. Just a shame that Chavez didn't live long enough to do more. He was more than just a national hero, he was a hero for all south Americans who had been oppressed for centuries by European colonists,... Power and equality to the people my comrade.
@BobbyJ5295 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of context the news should be providing. Our MSM so uninformative. Sad
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
dis-informative actually
@fhhfhdfdhhdhhdfhdf1385 жыл бұрын
even on the weather reports they should be listening to the science of the relationship between extreme weather events and climate change; warmer ocean air leads to stronger hurricanes, 2017 case study.
@danmaftei76335 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the source!
@seanwhitehall46525 жыл бұрын
Need Noam Chompsky on JRE
@histochronos5 жыл бұрын
“That’s really interesting Noam...but have you ever done DMT?!”
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
Wizards in the Mist lol
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
Gerardo Ojeda Rogan is a jerk
@tranquil875 жыл бұрын
@Gerardo Ojeda That's the worst use of the word postmodern I've ever seen. Joe Rogan is not postmodern in the least. He's just a representation of the status quo.
@ianj7055 жыл бұрын
Joe has no real politics besides going with whatever sounds cool
@shilohadminshilohpaintingi47695 жыл бұрын
We need the best journalist to be elevated.
@lovepeaceharmony86565 жыл бұрын
Chomsky for President ❤
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
I doubt he would never accept a Party's nomination or take the oath of office
@tomhallgren3105 жыл бұрын
Hes literally an anarchist, why would he ever think of being a president... we need to stop praising people who we look up to by wanting them to be presidents. It’s not what it’s about
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
@@tomhallgren310 I would dare say Noam would agree wholeheartedly. We don't need heroes or Party vanguard.
@bearbaler14565 жыл бұрын
Chomsky for King of the World
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
@@bearbaler1456 He probably would get a chuckle out of that ;)
@ocilassolrac145 жыл бұрын
Respects for you sir.
@rocioaguilera36135 жыл бұрын
Thank you, professor Chomsky, for your honesty and knowledge
@mike79204 жыл бұрын
Chavez deliberately increased the economy's dependence on oil from about 60% to around 95%. Venezuela had a fairly diverse and healthy manufacture and export sector. Chavez expropriated those business and made the country entirely dependent on the state owned oil company. His daughter is now a billionaire living in New York while children eat from garbage dumps. So he he was in fact putting aside reserves - into his family's private wealth
@economicalovereem58335 жыл бұрын
"Chavez left the capitalist class untouched." The Chavez government has expropriated or nationalized numerous companies (no one seems to be able to count them all) involved in various sectors including aluminum, cement, gold, iron, steel, farming, transportation, electricity, food production, banking, paper and the media. The number of private companies in industry has dropped from 14,000 in 1998 to only 9,000 in 2011, according to Torres.
@Kyle_Schaff5 жыл бұрын
*Yoel Romero* I agree. The word “untouched” is very much incorrect. But to imply that Venezuela was/is more socialist than capitalist is silly. The private sector is still massive. Regardless of whatever economic system Venezuela has now, the real problem stems from not adapting away from their colonial economy (as Chomsky said) and that the economy’s stability was essentially wholly based on the assumption that oil prices would rise for all eternity. The economy was unsustainable from the start in both a fiscal sense (capitalist) and a self-sufficiency sense (socialist). Chavez just road the boom, Maduro is now riding the bust (not to imply that the scumbag hasn’t worsened the bad situation immeasurably) EDIT: And state-ownership is widely considered by many socialists to be anti-socialist as the workers do not own the means of production. That the state does (that it’s top-down power rather than bottom-up)
@HoxtonGuitarist4 жыл бұрын
9,000 private companies is still a lot. What?
@amania92545 жыл бұрын
#HandsOffVenezuela #IStandWithIlhan #BDS A noble person among us, so honest and honorable,...
@Manbagdeluxe5 жыл бұрын
What are we going do without Chomsky?
@takkiejakkie54585 жыл бұрын
Ideas outlive people.
@65minimom5 жыл бұрын
he's written over 100 books
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
@@65minimom Please read them, Sandy
@staatsfeindlich99395 жыл бұрын
He actually answers that question.
@victorjacquet295 жыл бұрын
@@staatsfeindlich9939 do you have a link of that video?
@mariaboniface50945 жыл бұрын
Siempre sentire mucha gratitud por todas sus sabias contribuciones
@elijbb56955 жыл бұрын
ANd sorry but you don’t live there, is easy to talk outside of the system, the humanitarian crisis begins before the US sanctions, they stole all the food money since 2007, the Chavez, regime started all this without the Us intervention, and again you to live there to see the truth
@mr.wrongthink.1325 Жыл бұрын
Another attempt of socialism failed. This time Venezuelan style is recorded in the History of Socialism.
@AbuShadeeee5 жыл бұрын
He just an amazing man... Walking encyclopedia on oliticsans social issues
@ericholdsworth66115 жыл бұрын
yes he is amazing amazingly full of shit
@henry57005 жыл бұрын
I’m Venezuelan. To be honest, i find it ridiculous that Chomsky doesn’t mention how the chavistas created their own Congress to bypass the Congress controlled by the opposition (this was an extremely serious violation of our constitution and a direct attack against democracy) or how the chavistas have been giving weapons to their supporters or how they the chavistas stole all the money that was supposed to be invested in our electrical infrastructure. He always comes to the conclusion that the US is somehow responsible for all the bad things happening in the world when reality is much more complicated than that. Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro mismanaged our resources and wasted all our money in corruption and gifts to foreign countries. Now we are left with no money. The electrical infrastructure cannot sustain itself and most people are leaving to Colombia and neighbouring countries.
@SanvelloSerapiega5 жыл бұрын
1:45 tbf for chavez he was having the end game goal of manipulating the economy to not be oil based but he needed to spend alot of money educating and improving his population ability to work in other fields while he had to deal with crap like coups.
@bearbaler14565 жыл бұрын
Very true,... Have no doubt that had he lived longer he would have gone full steam ahead into creating worker owned cooperatives in Venezuela.
@israelporras83065 жыл бұрын
Exactly Chavez educated the population so good that you can not gone on the streets, day or night, without being robbed... Just what kind of education was that?
@SanvelloSerapiega5 жыл бұрын
@@israelporras8306 One the main things chavez did was expand medical care and education access so Venezuela would have access to a healthier and more educated population. You cant make a country change economic structures realistically if the popualtion is poor uneducated and unable to obtain healthcare. For instance college enrollment rates nearly quadrupled. wenr.wes.org/2013/05/education-in-venezuela-reform-expansion-and-an-uncertain-future
@israelporras83065 жыл бұрын
@@SanvelloSerapiega OK, there is no shortage of medicines in Venezuela, it is so that the population is so healthy now that they don't need any medicines, so farmacies just don't carry any because the population again, don't need them. That does not explain why so many children are dying in the hospitals though. And the highly educated people that you mention might be the ones looking for food in the garbage because now they have better opportunities. Thanks for explaining this to me.
@SanvelloSerapiega5 жыл бұрын
@@israelporras8306 the shortages have nothing to do with whether or not Chavez actively tried to make the economy transtion to a non oil based economy which is what the posts i made are about. Also since you want to talk about shortages as Chomsky pointed out they are the result of an economy that was unable to successfully transistion from its old one and because Chavez refused to do something about the ruling corpate leaders in Vene. Not only that but Vene is short on specific foods and medicines not food or medicine in general. The situation now is better than say vene in the 80s or 90s where measures of health like malnorishment rates were measurably higher and were so bad that they were the reason Chavez was elected in the first place. Vene has had worse problems like this before because of similar reasons. It is a corporatist private economy no matter how you look at it. Chavez not ending that is why there is food and medicine shortages. The shortages that exist are the result of corporations refusing to sell products in Venezuela or problems like capital flight as a means to undermine the electorates wishes along with currency rigging/fixing. The shortages in Venezuela dont reflect it as a country that doesnt make or get enough food or medicines. its that some corporations refuse to provide services or goods as a way of upholding their own power
@RedZone44003 жыл бұрын
This hasn’t aged well....
@davooddar70575 жыл бұрын
When Chomsky goes "take a look at..", you know facts are coming down like rain.
@edwardjones22025 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha so true.
@clarestucki51515 жыл бұрын
They thought they could live on oil alone, but that no longer works at lower oil prices. They need to grow and manufacture things also.
@soulfuzz3685 жыл бұрын
Socialism always has a problem with production. Incentives are a natural requirement full stop. The best systems will always be a mixture.
@uttaradit25 жыл бұрын
the truth.
@r.b.l.58415 жыл бұрын
When we hear Noam we hear truth and facts carefully articulated and never with emotion or slogans to sway public opinion. he is our voice of reason. Trust . and sense;
@bmphil34005 жыл бұрын
that's the problem.....you think he has reason.....is worth trust and has sense.......
@desmondoscar51435 жыл бұрын
Noam Chomsky is the socratic of our generation
@joeschmoe11935 жыл бұрын
Some hemlock for Chomsky then?
@dorianphilotheates37695 жыл бұрын
Joe Schmoe - He’s already taken tons. Over time he’s slowly built up an immunity; secret to his longevity and acumen.
@James--Parker5 жыл бұрын
Saying he didn't diversify the economy is a major understatement. He homogenized it manufacturing fled the country, and agriculture steadily declined. Saying he "Didn't put aside reserves" is also a major understatement. He ran a massive deficit every year, and it wasn't just the central government it was also PDVSA. PDVSA is currently in default so its over seas assets in Cuba where seized as compensation for it debt, and it's 30 billion dollars worth of over seas assets in America are at risk of being seized, due it Venezuela's creditors successfully suing PDVSA in US courts.
@Guerrerosmusic5 жыл бұрын
Im sorry to tell you this guys... but I’m venezuelan and I know about politic and social situación in my country, I lived there for 32 years, and I tell you, Chavez and destroyed us, Castro’s family invade us and that comes from many years ago before Chavez, the elections were fraudulent all the time, the machines used to that were manipulated and years later recognised by one of the owners and founders of the company “Smarmatics”. If someone ask to me about USA I couldn’t tell you many things but those who everyone knows, but talking about my country...? There are many secrets we don’t know cause Venezuela it’s very rich at all in all senses and matters, that produces a war of power to control the region, but I tell you and believe me, Socialism and Comunism just KILLED US! We are 3.5 MM immigrants and counting, not because of a comercial block, because the government never has done its job and they’ve been stealing resources and money. I can tell you with my total experience that Chavez and Maduro just did what Castro’s Cartel wanted to make strong the Venezuelan Cartel, El “Cartel de los Soles” (The Sun’s Cartel - Military Cartel). If you have any question about it you can freely ask to me, I’ll be so glad to tell you the truth from a citizen who knows about Venezuelan politic since more than 20 years. I’m 44 YO, and I had to migrate 12 years ago when Vzla wasn’t as bad as now and I tell you... I could see the storm coming... just ask me... and I tell you about us and the governments we’ve had ... the Venezuelan problem it’s older than Chavez era... it started with the Democracy itself.
@familyvids20805 жыл бұрын
Chavez didnt destroy you the same capitalists and international banks did, the government played one part in the collapse of the economy which was focusing too much on oil and not other industry's but the rest of the problems come from pariah international and domestic corporate institutions that want the oil money for the rich only and to stop spending t on the poor,
@Guerrerosmusic5 жыл бұрын
Family Vids read me again and you will have the answer, I met Chavez and his people ... when I speak about my country it’s because I know our problems... just ask me anything... there are probes everywhere. Chavez wasn’t the solution or a Guía with nice intentions, if you know about searching information and being neutral you’d be able to search for the complete Chavez’s story and you’ll see how bad he was and so Maduro. Just ask me whatever you want.
@AngelCintiaRockgirl5 жыл бұрын
Intellectuals are facing an imminent "dark-age" era brought on by aggressive efforts of the power to take them off the map.
@mjrr1225 жыл бұрын
What a buncho of líes we in Venezuela don't have electricity running water food we live with streets full of garbage And whit our salary we can't afford meat and We are baraly able to eat
@armandofernandezguillermet89962 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mr.Chomsky for your enlightening comments.
@sabcha91645 жыл бұрын
HANDS OFF. GET OUT Criminal gov. YANKEE FROM VEEZUELA.
@SetTrippin825 жыл бұрын
"Word is born" - Noam Chomsky
@guillermocrespo81445 жыл бұрын
Sure that's why people runs away from the country. The system was the error not the politic applying it...
@LownarYouKnowMe5 жыл бұрын
Media talks about Venezuela all the time. And i have never heard them say any of this...
@mrfrano1005 жыл бұрын
I love this man. I actually understand what he says. With most speakers and experts the message I receive is you are too stupid and this is too complex for you. With him it’s the opposite. I want to get involved
@johndoughboy26515 жыл бұрын
*CHOMSKY = FAKE NEWS*
@Theomite5 жыл бұрын
I want Chomsky in Bernie's cabinet. Like, when Bernie talks or gestures to his cabinet, it's literally just Chomsky in a gigantic soft easy chair that's 4x bigger than he is and they just wheel him out. He could have theme music and everything.
@peacetheworld...........71055 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I love Chomsky..... Also Chavez said "When he was in Spain,he Used read Chomsky Books".... R.I.P Chavez Great Man. Thanks Always brother Chomsky...... long live
@paifu.2 жыл бұрын
1:15 Failure to change the colonial economy (Oil based economy) 3:00 Not saving up in the time where oil prices were high, so were the profits led them to seeking funds in international credit market when oil prices dropped. 3:30 Sanctions are hurting Venezuela.
@thomaskirkpatrick11345 жыл бұрын
Truth cuts through like a Diamond!
@rosixrincones61714 жыл бұрын
Hi professor Chomsky. No, Venezuelan poverty was not sharply reduced with Chavez. I am afraid you are being misled.
@Max-kv8uw4 жыл бұрын
Could you point to some data?
@rosixrincones61714 жыл бұрын
@@Max-kv8uw Hi Max. I am a refugee in Sweden and I am concerned about my fellow journalists who had to face an abusive detention last night in Venezuela. About your question: I know there are serious studies about this, but I don't have it in hand at the moment, but I will send it to this channel once I can. One thing I can say now: propaganda has been the main tool of these regimes who care very little about reliable data. I am a witness of how they spent millions to send people overseas to tell lies, they deceived the world. I wrote a newspaper article about it more than a year ago: "Una carta para la izquierda británica". I still keep my column in El Correo del Caroní. That is the shortest I can explain it. BTW, they destroyed the oil company, their policies seriously affected agriculture, and yet they received an award from FAO. The only explanation: they have been bribing people.
@rosixrincones61714 жыл бұрын
@@Max-kv8uw This is a starting point. This thread is long and informative. It gives sources. twitter.com/frrodriguezc/status/1328835597411241994?s=20
I personally talked to bare-footed peasants in Venezuela in 1998 and they told me they had never voted before but they were going to vote for Hugo Chavez
@danblackwelder59955 жыл бұрын
It is the first responsibility of governments to stabilize and support a healthy and efficient agricultural and housing system for its people.
@scotty61245 жыл бұрын
This came from the Ralph Nader radio hour which I highly recommend. Its in podcast form too.
@CPez3 жыл бұрын
Do you like listening to Intellectuals who talk about topics they aren’t experts in. Spew their ideas to the world in beautifully packaged presents, and most importantly who pay No price for being wrong over facts? Interesting.
@GoodlyRogue3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Venezuela, greatest country in the world, right?
@mikemcgarrity75725 жыл бұрын
Veneuzela sits on one of the finest Natural resource bases on Earth, Oil, farm land, minerals, good weather. They appear unable to turn this into wealth. Its always someone elses fault for their inability to make use of this bounty. Despite evidence the path they are on is not beneficial, they keep trying harder doing the same things. In Nature this is known as maladaption. Until they change their operations mode no change in outcome should be expected... They are good at finding others to blame for their own incompetence in failing to adapt.
@derflitermouse89765 жыл бұрын
Socialism is the most maladapted form of government the world has ever known!
@mikemcgarrity75725 жыл бұрын
Der flitermouse What about Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin? I was going to Troll your comment but I have to agree..
@johnperrin9145 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm......and what was stopping them?.....the corporate owned US government!!!!
@mikemcgarrity75725 жыл бұрын
John Perrin The process will continue. All are powerless before the US Corporations. Might as well throw in the towel and do what you are supposed to...
@mikemcgarrity75725 жыл бұрын
Der flitermouse Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin....they didn't try hard enough. More genocide is needed to get Socialism to function properly. The system works best when all people are dead.
@honestyfenix5305 жыл бұрын
EVERY COIN HAS TWO SIDES: I arrived in V. in 2000 when Chavez was beginning. I saw with my own eyes how, in such a rich country, many children were eating from the street garbage cans, during the day and at night. Some Caracas' sidewalks had holes that you cud fall in them and die or break a leg! The poverty belt around Caracas was huge (shacks). Chavez did begin to do very good things for these children and the poor: improving schools, new homes at lower prices, food & shelter for the street kids, etc. Chomsky is right in most of what he says. HOWEVER the other side of the coin is this: 1. he brought in Cuban advisors, and 2. went overboard in trying to help the small & poor Caribbean countries (Cuba, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, etc.) selling them oil at a preferential price, which was very good but, like Chomsky said, left no money reserves. If you have Cuban advisors and play with Communism, you're going to have problems with the US, and that is not wise. If he had maintained good relations with the US, he cud have transformed his country. The US is not as bad as they put it: Germany & Japan were allowed to develop big time! But you cannot turn against capitalism and expect them to like you or leave you alone. There is and was such a thing as a MIDDLE OF THE ROAD place, but he went to the extreme. He did make life impossible for those capitalists in V who were against him, and in this Chomsky is not correct. Free capitalism was not allowed in V. Only those who sided with the gov had rights and freedom to act. THIS is The Truth of what I saw, from 2000 to 2006. Personally I do believe Chavez was a communist, as opposed to Correa or Lula. Things sooner or later had to end the way they are now. Who do I blame? NOT THE US, NOT CHAVEZ OR MADURO BUT the irresponsible & selfish Vn upper class who never gave a damn about the growing poverty in their country and took all the oil money for themselves!
@virginiajenkins90335 жыл бұрын
Definitely with Noam and not Bolton.
@clarestucki51515 жыл бұрын
Chavez was popular because the price of oil was sky high, and he could afford all sorts of welfare benefits, but he never planned for the day when the price of oil declined.
@kageedit3545 жыл бұрын
Venezuela collapsed without sanctions..
@Babel2.05 жыл бұрын
Chomsky should be heard.
@urfavoritehumanbean8795 жыл бұрын
good morning to everyone except for maduro
@HarveyStJohn5 жыл бұрын
good afternoon from Scotland.
@andyturchan31005 жыл бұрын
Thanx …… You are the truth teller !!!!!
@ScottishLibertyPodcast5 жыл бұрын
Venezuela couldn't diversify their economy because MARKETS diversify an economy, central planning cannot. Still economically illiterate.
@muslimmetalman5 жыл бұрын
Venezuela isnt central planning, and no absolutely you can direct the markets
@zardule5 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure because China and South Korea are not diversififed at all.....and japan didn't direct too....
@gallowsradio5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Brittain holding 1.5 billion dollars worth in gold from Venezuela. Telling to public is to "fight the Maduro regime," when in reality they're holding it in retaliation to Venezuela for refusing to give them the fields the French companies were working on when they left...
@Redsauce1015 жыл бұрын
The banks are holding it because if they hand it to the wrong people the bank will suffer a destruction of trust. Then everyone using that bank (states, corporate finance, or people) will have a run on it, which may cause a banking collapse. Such a thing for a large bank will have world wide consequences on the financial system.
@gallowsradio5 жыл бұрын
@@Redsauce101 "The wrong people?" Are you referring to the 'Democratically elected' president of Venezuela? Those wrong people? Bank holding funds? Are you listening to yourself Eva? Sounds much more to me like a recipe for overthrown a government by sanction, and embargo the shit out of it until the people are on their knees, install a puppet, steal their natural resources and give it to the United States and counterparts corporations...
@Redsauce1015 жыл бұрын
@@gallowsradio The wrong people meaning whoever ends up ousted and/or illegitimate in the eyes of the world.
@gallowsradio5 жыл бұрын
@@Redsauce101 the world ? You mean your world not the millions that voted for this guy only to be told that 'the world' does not recognize those millions of people that don't make it to the news or their president, and they're going to appoint someone unheard of, who clearly has the signature of intelligence all over the place? That world you talking about?
@Redsauce1015 жыл бұрын
@@gallowsradio now either you can't read are just dense.
@Hnw7615 жыл бұрын
He convenient doesn’t mention the failure of land confiscation which is why Venezuela, despite having perfect agricultural conditions, is having a famine.
@histochronos5 жыл бұрын
Someone knows how to cultivate the land. Their land is confiscated. New owner doesn’t have a clue. See Zimbabwe.
@Hnw7615 жыл бұрын
Every Generation Just like Jewish Bolsheviks didn’t kill millions of Ukrainians or Russians - you have to be so evil and ideologically possessed to ignore the millions of people fleeing Venezuela.
@valentinecarstensen68395 жыл бұрын
This always gets left out. One of the most fundamental elements to a stable (good neighbor) nation is its ability to feed itself. Regardless, taking a nation’s capacity to feed itself is usually one of the first pillars to be attacked by Left and Right governments. Be it by forceful dissapropriation of the Left or of Economic disappropriation of the right. Removal of dietary self sustainability is critical to subjecting the populace. Does hear really think that the US as a whole has the ability to feed itself independently of the corporate controlled organism of its conventional Agriculture. With Equal ease a siege can be waged against US in order to put the nation in line with the will of global decision makers.
@ronagoodwell27095 жыл бұрын
@@GODOBER There are plenty of independent journalists who have gone to Venezuela to look for evidence of famine. There is none. Plenty of videos show people carrying on normally. The "opposition" in east Caracas go to sushi bars, eat Chinese food and Italian, enjoy some wine and continue to live their country club lifestyles. Poorer people have access to subsidized open markets where food is affordable. It's the franchise grocery stores where the food is more expensive because a lot is sold on the black market to Colombia. BTW videos of people eating garbage are fake. Easy to spot if you keep your wits about you.
@kevikev15065 жыл бұрын
@@Hnw761 Was it only Jewish Bolsheviks? I thought Bolshevism was a descriptor of your political ideology, not your religion. I'm sure there were Orthodox Christian, Catholic Bolsheviks, agnostic Bolsheviks and atheist Bolsheviks - why only mention those who were Jewish?
@imhoisntworthmuch57545 жыл бұрын
impressive.. this thread content exceeds the source. an hour condensed to a few minutes.
@cogen6515 жыл бұрын
So who's fault is it that Venezuela collapsed..
@uttaradit25 жыл бұрын
yours
@4G125 жыл бұрын
Time to grow up and abandon the naive and childish notion that problems can be blamed on singular individuals.
@kohlscunty5 жыл бұрын
the united states. saudi arabia.
@cogen6515 жыл бұрын
@@4G12 so you don't know, lol
@DEVRIMCI20075 жыл бұрын
Both sides.
@秋分-d8i5 жыл бұрын
simple truth
@lacha6085 жыл бұрын
How about another interview with tim÷ for the details?
@gustavomeneses78155 жыл бұрын
Can't find anything on Chomsky's comments about the British being dislodged. What is he referring to?
@paulmoore1783 жыл бұрын
How is their popular support now?
@DorothyGTyas5 жыл бұрын
Thank-you🍃❣🍃
@FranktheTank705 жыл бұрын
Chomsky is all theory, he cannot point to one multicultural area on the globe that matches his ideal country.
@Kyle_Schaff5 жыл бұрын
*FranktheTank70* Cool. What’s that got to do with the video?
@LatinSuspect4LIfe5 жыл бұрын
Noam is the last Jedi.
@dougwhiting76315 жыл бұрын
But over this time period the oil wealth was spent, production went from 3 mill BPD to 1 mil BPD . That had a bigger effect on revenue than the price of oil.
@alfonso2015 жыл бұрын
Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Faith consists of sixty (or seventy) branches. The best of them is 'There is no god but Allah.' The lowest of them is to remove harmful things from the road. Modesty is also a branch of faith." Sahih (Al-Albani) Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 598 In-book : Book 30, Hadith 61 English translation : Book 30, Hadith 598
@l.berisha31765 жыл бұрын
ALFONSO , @ Go fuck yourself you fucking idiot with your stupid Allah !!
@blackhorse11thACR5 жыл бұрын
Chomsky speaks the TRUTH.
@patrileys5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Toto8opus5 жыл бұрын
Love you Noam till the end of times.
@spoiledeggnog26835 жыл бұрын
I really wish he had time to go through the details.
@taq12385 жыл бұрын
HANDS OFF VENEZUELA!
@israelporras83065 жыл бұрын
Exactly Chavez educated the population so good that you can not go on the streets, day or night, without being robbed... Just what kind of education was that?
@chrave19565 жыл бұрын
It’s doing better now !
@williamjc71955 жыл бұрын
long live Noam !
@grahamvermish59555 жыл бұрын
The development of the USA depends upon Latin America's under development. Venesuela is a modern day Paraguay where. In respect of the later a triumvirate of Brazil, Uraguay an Argentina with support from Brithish mercantilists destroyed its socialist economy. Today history repeats. Different players but Capitalism and the desire to ensure socialism fails are the driving forces. Trump and Bolton are the Robspierian architects of Venesuela's decline
@joeschmoe11935 жыл бұрын
Why can't you just admit that socialism destroyed Venezuela because that's the truth.
@CO8848_25 жыл бұрын
Chavez had $90 oil, andMaduro doesn't. That's the only difference.
@Sphere7235 жыл бұрын
Well, that and the people put in charge of the national oil industry during the Chavez years were inept and corrupt. Oil production went into steady decline. Current production is about half of the 1998 peak. Chomsky doesn't mention that because it doesn't fit his narrative. But it's a big reason why Venezuela is in such financial hardship while other oil exporting countries are not imploding in the same way.
@rickwyant2 жыл бұрын
Venezuela is a nightmare, thanks Chomsky
@realeyesrealizereallies68285 жыл бұрын
America lost it's coup attempt in Syria....It could lose in Venezuela if the country gets support from China, Russia, and other nations...Could be a turning point in the hemisphere.....
@abdalrahmanshaddow61213 жыл бұрын
I always was interested I human dignity and Chomsky is the of it
@Preacher_.5 жыл бұрын
Could You get this clip on facebook? Its much easier to disseminate information that's unlikley to be covered by the Cable News Networks.
@Felicidade1015 жыл бұрын
Does he understand the difference in oil prices now ('18-'19) and back when chavez was boss?
@imdoc7872 Жыл бұрын
Chavez accomplished all his social programs by the sale and use of his oil. I would ask professor Chomsky, knowing that global warming and the use of fossil fuels is the biggest threat to humanity, would he still support the means in which Chavez accomplished his social feats?
@yeshua_base644 жыл бұрын
😂 the left
@JustinMurray170fin4 жыл бұрын
If this is the content you chose to inform yourself with then you have little to laugh at...