Noam Chomsky - The Most Grim Moment in Human History

[@smooa1889]

we shouldnt go down without a fight

[@mrsbojangles62]

Ya what happened to all the protests??? We just gave up?

[@knightsonofjack]

People need to get armed and take to the streets. That's probably the only way.

[@waswestkan]

You mean that fight where the last person stand, who has lost everything, looks around ta the carnage, to wonder what it is they won? Or the fight where every human does there bent to insure than at many of humans, possible survive as long as possible? Planet Earth doesn't care what humans do, it's likely to out last humans.

[@waswaswad]

@@knightsonofjack You can't have any revolutions the old way. You've got a knife, they've got a gun. You've got a gun, they've got a tank, drone, airplane, atom bomb etc. They can always resort to more violence.

[@ToroidalVortexLove]

The threats of environmental catastrophe and the threat of nuclear war must be averted and cannot be allowed to occur due to greed, capitalism or apathy.

[@nihilistcentraluk442]

The threat of nuclear war is not increasing significantly and it is totally unrealistic to believe Trump's " rich "supporters want to reduce everything to ashes.

[@MrShanester117]

ToroidalVortexLove Cool you fixed it with your incredibly pedantic comment

[@aminman15]

environmental catastrophe wow

[@tommyrosati9326]

c4p0ne The problems with you people is that you will keep trying Marxism and when it fails and ends in mass death again, you’ll keep advocating for it. Sure capitalism is far from perfect, but it’s a hell of a lot better than anything we’ve tried before.

[@mr.joesterr5359]

@@tommyrosati9326 Can you even define Marxism and capitalism? Then can you point to a single example of a truly Marxist country? If you say USSR they were a fascist-communist hybrid and as far removed from socialism as the US is today.

[@coprographia]

“OK, but the Sonic movie...”

[@joestrat2723]

You've encapsulated our collective idiocy perfectly. And you made me laugh, thanks..

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

Hear, hear. It's a damn shame, and I'm genuinely afraid, for everyone.

[@storksforever2000]

@Douglas Sirk People only say that when disaster is an abstraction in their mind and they have the privilege to not be as worried about it as say, a family in Sudan who faces the actual risk of starvation frequently. It's easy to be an armchair cynic when your ivory tower has practically infinite, free, clean drinking water.

[@abefroman8528]

Then you are in the state of fear. This is precisely where the dumbocract leadership want you to be. Fearful and dumb

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

Temo Palmer I assure you, I'm nothing remotely approaching dumb. I'm fearful because the world is ending. Not the fictitious part where Jesus comes back and kills everyone but white, male, Christians, the real one where every living thing on the planet starves to death.

[@wo8394]

Wiseman: there is nothing new under the sun Chomsky: hold my doomsday clock...

[@phildouglas9086]

There are all kinds of things that are new under the sun. NATIONWIDE obesity epidemics, for example. When King Solomon penned those words... There's nothing new under the sun...it was true. But that was then. This is now. Now there are all sorts of New Things under the sun. Like, how many overly medicated chariot drivers did Solomon have to face on the road as we do these days.

[@phildouglas9086]

@Noel Treadwell Nationwide obesity epidemics are new things. Grow a brain.

[@ManiacalViolet]

Please stay alive Professor we need you now

[@marieinnes2382]

Noam is the GOAT

[@marieinnes2382]

Dan Vicary Thank you Dan for giving me these orders, it’s so appreciated

[@siempreyoyo5172]

@Tony society never been right. So when possibilities of crisis start emerging homoidiotuz start showing their true colors and tendency toward certain behaviors, that lead to disaster's. That is wrote all over history on this specie's on this planet, the history is not something we learn is more something we can't escape, as the now never born, the past is the only constant of homoidiotuz short presence on this planet, the future is a imposible lie we will never have.

[@vashtanerata1799]

@firespinner love it! I lost count years ago how many times I have said "you would never say that in person"

[@wgaule]

@@vashtanerata1799 Really? I've kept a record of my usage: to date I've said it 47374 times.

[@vashtanerata1799]

@@wgaule so you kept count of saying "you would never say that in person"? How long did it take to reach that number?

[@robertburnett5561]

Watch "Dr. Stangelove" As long as the rulers have a way out, they will destroy everything.

[@scotsam7590]

And watch/read Stephen King's "The Dead Zone". A prophecy of Trump really.

[@thehellyousay]

They believe they have a way out. They're dead wrong about that, but when you're that rich, your ignorance becomes arrogance, and at that point, only their own imminent deaths will slap that stupidity out of their heads.

[@scotsam7590]

@@thehellyousay Unfortunately they've procreated, leaving a legacy even worse than them. This is why they had the French & Russian Revolutions and took care of the family lines.

[@livthedream91]

Scot & Sam Where’s Christopher Walken when we need him?😉

[@gvlacic21]

Aw man. He sounds ready to go. Thank you Noam for so many years of speaking Truth to Power.

[@maryshaffer8474]

They hd Obama in White house for 8 years. This emergency supposedly happened when Trump got elected. It was an emergency for decades.

[@TheLegend-mu6zg]

mary shaffer It’s because Trump is actively reversing all of the environmental progress made over the past decades by pushing out de regulations and what not. It’s sickening.

[@Jchot]

I was about so say, he sounds pretty good in this clip.

[@CIARUNSITE]

This 91 year old guy sounds old. Good observation.

[@ahbarahad3203]

what the fuck is wrong with you man

[@bobpurcell8357]

R.I.P. Humanity...Born in Ignorance, Never Left...

[@bobpurcell8357]

@Preet Dhami 99.8% of species responded "no doubt." Dogs were opposed, cats abstained, and the microbes that live inside us said, "Let me get back to you on that"...

[@bhikkhuazalea]

.......am VERY pessimistic of what humanity is WILLING to do

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

🥱

[@finnikj8277]

Someone once told me "know what separates the philosophy student from the anarchist: action." The time to take action has now, we need to get serious and start forcing these corrupters of the world out of our white house and senate. We have the power and we have the numbers. Stay fearless comrades, get furious and focus that anger on changing something for the good of the people. Their house of cards will burn like the syphilis of their ancestors, while the unshakable body of a united people will be the true prevailing force. We have to keep our heads out of the sand, because establishment's is permanently stuck in their own ass and they have no interest in the common person. It seems bleak and hopeless at times but, we're far from done. Viva la revolución!

[@gigischaumburg4289]

It was almost too late when Rachel Carson wrote The Silent Spring. Meanwhile billionaires are building underground bunkers and making plans to go to Mars. Insanity.

[@letaureau3622]

Gigi Same thought

[@MrDavidrex]

Says a lot in 2 minutes. Always a testimony to the effectiveness of dialogue with out drama.

[@chicagoeconomist1643]

Five minutes from midnight for a century...

[@RemyThunderknife]

Sounds like a broken clock to me. If we have really been teetering on the precipice of annihilation then why has that been such a stable state of affairs for so long? Chomsky is a wise man, but he plays to an audience of mostly college kids just discovering the harsh realities of the world. Some people never accept that reality, but many never move past it. Right now is the greatest time to be alive in the history of life on earth. Go read A Distant Mirror, then tell me you wouldn't prefer 2019.

[@thehellyousay]

A century? How dumb are you to call 70 years "a century"? American dumb?

[@thehellyousay]

@@RemyThunderknife You shoulda left your head up your ass.

[@hhhahahhhahha]

people dont generally measure human affairs in decades or centuries they measure them through hundreds of years, theres no way our "era" is going to make it out alive

[@Blowmontana707]

The doomsday clock has only been around since 1947 given the relatively recent existential crises that is climate change & nuclear war its NAIVE to think that 73 years is long enough time for a comment like this to be valid

[@marieinnes2382]

This is so accurate it’s scary. It’s truly getting scary.

[@sashazitka5278]

Marie Innes it is scary 😭I have to smoke weed to sleep

[@Datharass]

It's been scary. Don't let fear paralyze you, fight for what you believe.

[@MiyamotoMusakaki]

the only way to stop it is we all ban together and get rid of big noosed people, they are 0.1% od the world and yet are behins most od the peoblems

[@Datharass]

@@MiyamotoMusakaki Step one is knowing existence can be better, step two is overcoming fear, step three ??? and step four is profit. The revolution will not be televised.

[@comradetrashpanda8777]

@@MiyamotoMusakaki Big noosed people? Please elaborate who are these big noosed people?

[@tigerstyle4505]

I love my kid more than anything, but if they hadn't come along when I was so young and dumb (and less than intentional) I most definitely wouldn't have had one. Reminds me of the lyrics, I believe from Thy Art Is Murder's "They Will Know Another" which I highly recommend regardless along with Fit For An Autopsy's "Black Mammoth" cause they play off eachother, "I'm not afraid to die, I'm afraid I'll survive and have to watch you suffer". I hope we can salvage something.

[@mencken8]

“Modern philosophers are those who give advice to people who are happier than they are.” - Tom Lehrer

[@engleharddinglefester4285]

"Somebody is going to get rich no matter the conditions, it might as well be me." People have ALWAYS been like this.

[@mindrolling24]

I’m 52. As a 20-something in the 1990s, we thought there was no way humanity would allow the wealthiest percentile of psychopaths to take over the world and destroy the only planet we have to live on. So we had children. If we knew then what we we know now, we wouldn’t have brought children into this clusterfuck of world wide exploitation, destruction and misery.

[@morishidol4209]

Put but you can wisely grow yours children? Naah what tha heck no need we die soon. . .

[@lelouchvibritania8121]

That will be the golden age of anti-natalism

[@stanleycoffman8195]

Noam Chomsky..A true intellectual revolutionary !

[@zyzzyvacation]

0:47 Most apt description of the month: _The Wrecking Ball in the White House_ 🤔

[@donnawoodford6641]

What resonated with me: Trump having fun...at our expense. I can't wait for power to be taken from him, and he's left with a heart attack, dementia, no money, so his life spirals and leaves him desperate and alone. I don't wish anyone ill will, but maybe more of what he truly deserves, a taste of what he's been dishing out.

[@bigdogbob845]

donna, so you think that one of the Democratic Clowns who are spouting their Socialist Agenda will provide a better alternative for the US ? You are blinded by the Left Leaning Media and the Empty and Unrealistic Pie in the Sky Promises put forth by a bunch of self serving Lunatics.

[@Communist-Doge]

@@bigdogbob845 Are you moaning about leftists on a Chomsky video? Really? At least they would address climate change and poverty and runaway capitalism.

[@ForceSounds-u5e]

There’s no chance that the human species will survive zero chance it’s over people are just too stupid to realize this huge train has already crashed but we’re so far back in the car we can’t even tell

[@bobbill3594]

Good to know you'll be of no help in looking for a solution.

[@romantsar8344]

Okay, but the conquest of Constantinople in 1453…

[@garrethoien6666]

Ramblings of a old fool who is so use to talking unchallenged he has forgotten to challenge his own thoughts

[@carlodave9]

For more than 30 years this has been the strategy and it's been agonizing to watch: the delay in recognizing the role of fossil fuels in climate change until they finally say, "Well geez, it's too late to do anything about it now so why try?"

[@jimbarron9939]

LINK to download full report: nca2018.globalchange.gov/downloads/NCA4_2018_FullReport.pdf Other links are available as this website to download whichever parts you may want to select (the full report is very long) A search for the report was not as simple and straightforward as it should have been. For some reason including any of "national" "department" "administration" and few others blocked getting the desired results. Some searches that should have returned many links returned only a handful (this was done with google). If you want to do the search yourself instead of using a link some unknown provided (Always an excellent idea!) just enter "Fourth National Climate Assessment" (include all inside quotes, do NOT include "change"!)

[@deshtechno]

Thanks for your comment. I've tried to find it by myself with no luck

[@monacoathlete2755]

Greetings from Paris Mr Chomsky.

[@voss134]

We have one chance to fix all this and that's to elect Bernie sanders, and Corbyn as well, but Bernie is much more important I think.

[@MrGrass97]

Vostera well the president of the US is the most powerful individual in the world. So yes, but having Corbyn in No. 10 gives Bernie a powerful ally on the international stage.

[@johnmazur4692]

You are out of your freaking mind if think the American people would elect that nut job!

[@voss134]

@@MrGrass97 absolutely, and hopefully Lula will retake power in brazil in 2022 so we can build a real international left.

[@maciej.ratajczak]

Who would you vote for?

[@grrr.9998]

@@johnmazur4692 don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups! Look at who you elected in 2016.

[@alexandertheaccursed1627]

We are living dinosaurs, Hope is already lost Yet we carry on, Survive no matter what the cost

[@sock7208]

Mr. STEAL YO GURL hypernormalism

[@patymoonkaraoke]

Desire is the root of all evil. Stop consuming. #BoycottBlackFriday

[@DJ_Force]

Without desire, there is no activity. Unless you plan on growing your own food, being your own doctor, building your own house out of lumber you cut down, e.t.c., you better hope people don't stop trying to consume. It is the desire to consume by all the people you depend on that keeps you alive.

[@soumyaneelmanna3097]

Stop consuming the internet then @paty Moon

[@wgebbia]

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism. The power structures need to be addressed directly.

[@soumyaneelmanna3097]

@@wgebbia and socialism will automatically make humans cheerful and non-greedy beings?

[@alexandertheaccursed1627]

Paty Moon yes! And take your money out of the banks!

[@nicolinogiancola9644]

I have nothing but respect for Chomsky. But I am starting to wonder if he is just talk. He reads written documentation and extracts from his grammatical understandings what should happen. He is at the mercy of the author of the paper and that's it. He leaves no room for his possible errors. He has been at this a long time and he has never provided a way of insuring integral shift in bringing about the combined efforts of the all.

[@TheKensterLive]

He is all talk. That's what he does.

[@adamlindeman523]

Does anyone know the name of that environmental document Chomsky brought up?

[@crazando]

So many people are paranoid about things that aren't gonna matter

[@maciej.ratajczak]

Why won't global cataclysm matter?

[@crazando]

@@maciej.ratajczak There's not gonna be a global cataclysm. That's why it doesn't matter

[@maciej.ratajczak]

@@crazando ... but isn't global warming heading towards dangerously high levels, and is there no chance that a nuclear war will take place?

[@crazando]

@@maciej.ratajczak How about I give you a link to a video to a guy who can explain global warming "problems" at the (end of my comment) to a better extent than me. But nuclear war is a highly unlikely thing because it ruins a lot of the land that could be taken, countries around the area nuked could be very very angry about the country throwing nukes, and if you think nuclear warfare is a very horrifying possibility then you certainly know that every country thinks of it as a horrifying possibility. No one (besides maybe crazy terrorists or cults) wants to start a nuclear war. Even when the United States hit Japan it was simply an easy way to end war where many atrocities and deaths were already occurring. the video link kzbin.info/www/bejne/iV7RpIiVecZ8kKc

[@maciej.ratajczak]

​@@crazando I watched it. Thank you for sharing it. It had a very reassuring and hopeful message. I do hope it's true and that mother nature can bounce back. I consider myself to be one of the environmentalists (I recycle/compost/buy used goods) he quipped about and his argument that CO2 is actually offsetting human destruction came as a great relief. Could you recommend another good video like this one that you have watched? Would you agree that the best path for humanity is to have a free market (without corruption/unfair lobbying) where new technologies (e.g. electric cars/nuclear power plants/solar energy) are free to develop unhindered by laws and be purchased freely by autonomous consumers, who effectively dictate supply and demand? I hear what you are saying about nuclear holocaust. I too hold out hope that no one is (hopefully) actually mindless or impulsive enough to push the button. The proliferation of nuclear weapons is (hopefully) just a corrupt way the military industrial complex line their pockets with manufacturing contracts, but does not actually intend to use them.

[@33bb33bb]

Have the "chosen people" (specifically the elites) really havent beenthat responsible with the human spirit... Literally "empathy", the truest survival trait of humanity.

[@waswestkan]

Only if enough humans exhibit empathy, empathy seems to be a rare commodity these days Or at lest for those outside their tribe.

[@33bb33bb]

@@waswestkan theyve been quietly trying to subvert & destroy "Christ Consciousness"... For 2000+ years theres been a grudge against 1 man & his message on behalf of humanity The one who showed the world what "Empathy" really was; & gladly gave his life for it. They deny that spirit/empathy & nourish their Ego/Narcissism. We are growing in an maliciously nourished egotistical society right now... It will implode soon enough. The kids are starting to feel that angst now.

[@somenothing7914]

thank u for editing this for all of us "easy consumables"

[@darlenemchugh9828]

He is one of the most brilliant men in the world! Not just my opinion. Why aren’t people listening? Please share this!!!

[@comradetrashpanda8777]

@Language and Programming Channel ok boomer

[@charlessteadjr1839]

The tree of knowledge bears much fruit. To bad the powers in charge aren't very hungry.

[@letaureau3622]

When Civilization ends the poor stop suffering The Wealthy Greed ends

[@carlodave9]

John Wheaton -- By meek do you mean billionaires? Something tells me they'll have contingency plans. The meek will be fucked.

[@wisco_smith]

Many people prioritize relief over truth and although it's true relief is often necessary , it's true that we all make choices . ITS UP TO REGULAR ASS PEOPLE LIKE US TO USE LESS GASOLINE, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE BUY, WHAT WE THROW AWAY, HOW WE LIVE , AND WHAT KIND OF IDEAS WE PUT OUT THERE . if all humanity does is worship garbage then we will end up in the same pile of trash .that's not what any lucid soul would ever want . The big Truth and all the other huge little truths around it are more obvious each day . OUR ANCESTORS DID NOT GO THROUGH LITERAL HELL FOR US TO TRASH THE PLANET AND WORLD WE CREATED TOGETHER .

[@denver-gi7ot]

atc5757 Individual action is one thing; but we really have to come together in changing the overall structure of the system.

[@elessar5848]

This sends shivers through my spine. Chomsky is not a dumb guy and he oversaw many catastrophic periods in the 20th and 21th century. But this is the worst.

[@donnawoodford6641]

RA MO I'm hearing cataclysmic world change coming from other sources, as well. If such is in our future, we can brace ourselves with the knowledge of what may lie ahead, take appropriate actions as needed as a new world is issued in. I'm expecting the unexpected?!?🍀

[@elessar5848]

@@donnawoodford6641 Almost no one expected the atrocities of WW2. People went on with their lives, following their daily routine. Then one day the newspapers were writing about a possible war. Most people shook their head and went on. Can't be that bad they thought. Just another war like so many. 56 million deaths, 2 nuclear armageddon, structural genocide and a world divided in 2 zones later. We're facing much much much worse now.

[@Chiefrunongrass]

I didn't even know Noam was alive anymore. Rock on Mr. Chomsky

[@wadegoodwin6773]

This is a solemn and grave warning. Thanks Noam. Wade Goodwin. The FAIR Digest, South Africa

[@utahgetmetwo456]

I'm reading the comments here and I cant seem to figure how any of this is productive. We as a society must have a common understanding of facts. If we fail to agree on a fact based reality, then we as a civilization are destined for failure. I ask again who does this benefit? My team good, your team bad...I win. Not so, we all lose. I've never seen anything like it and neither have any of you and that's a fact we can all agree on. We better recognize what's at stake because if this continues much longer America will become a place that none of us recognize and I can assure you, it will not be the utopia you perceive. Character assassins, insults, demonization of the other...if you resort to this you have already lost. History has shown us where these behaviors take us. Intellectuals and historians provide the roadmap to lead us home, opinions can only get you so far. It is evident we have a long road ahead but in the end, we end up at the same destination good or bad. Think clearly.

[@a.k.2611]

Great as always!

[@petegargotto6142]

Mean while in Iran the dictator killed 300, wounded 10,000 and arrested another 10,000, many have lost their jobs, complete cut off from the outside world and not a single thing on the news....this information is straight from my friend in iran in the last hour... please share this around

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

thks for the u/l people.. source is greatly appreciated.

[@vabriga1]

I respect Noam Chomsky, but he should remember his comments before 2016 elections when he said that other candidates are not better than Trump. It would be interesting to hear him comment on his interviews from that time.

[@carolconny2763]

Miro Zilaji Killary or Pence would be worse than Trump.

[@vabriga1]

@@carolconny2763 I dare to differ. Everybody would be better that Idiot-in-charge. Just listen how he talks (8 year old level), "he knows better than anybody on: - military - wind mills ( 😂😂😂😅😂🤣) - technology - middle east - financial system - Taxes -... Has he by accident forgot something? Aja, he knows" the best words" (that's maybe true, comparing to a 4 year old). He has "the best people" - how many of his "best people" are in jail, prosecuted or being fired/resigned? He has cheated every subcontractor who worked for him. He has bankrupted so many companies we have all lost track. Why is he hiding Tax returns (contrary to every president + candidate in recent history). Why he obstract witnesses to talk if he has nothing to hide? Why is he praising Putin, Kim Jong Un and fight with allies? Why is he laughing stock of the whole world except 40 % of Americans? He would not get a job at McDonald's with his failures and behaviour. And yet... Would you be happy if your daughter would marry a person like him (and teach your grandkids "his manners") ?

[@carolconny2763]

Miro Zilaji I agree to all you say. However... The Devil we know, is still better than the devil we do not know.

[@vabriga1]

@@carolconny2763 I am happy we agree at least on those points :) .

[@bip3937]

There is no guarantee we will make it. Eckhart Tolle

[@donnawoodford6641]

Chris Williams Many of us may not. The seems to be a noticably distinct divide. Some of us have decided to go on to a new timeline, while others by their mean behaviors were left behind in the 3D world. I'm trying to keep my integrity to be more protected and to advance. Hopefully, the rewards will present themselves in due time.🍀

[@waswestkan]

However that doesn't mean we shouldn't. Most of us still get out of bed in the morning, when there's no guarantee, will be able go go to bed and the end of our day. try. I listen to Tolle ha to say on occasion, but drift away.

[@chickadeeacres3864]

Has anything like it ever happened in history? Nero comes to mind…

[@TheSaltLakers]

Party like it's 1999

[@realnaveen]

Cosmic Significance 0:16 Chaotic ones are simply capitalizing on chaotic escalation and shifting blame.

[@cbraat27]

Great linguistics talk, Noam

[@23ofSeptember]

You can always count on Chomsk to tell it how it is. The state of the world is that people are self centered, not at all concern about the future, only concerned about their own personal affairs. But, lets be honest. When have humans ever sacrificed the present for a future that they may not benefit from. Do laid-off coal miners have anything to gain when the country moves towards renewables? Its hard to sell. When we see others profit from uncertainty, its hard to join the masses with your head in the sand. That said, perhaps only in war are people willing to risk everything for nominal gains. Some might argue that you must lose everything, in order to move forward.

[@steve7231]

What is the name of the document mentioned here and where can I find it?

[@a.b.4474]

I always disagreed with Chomsky particularly on this global warming hoax everything else I mostly agree with him about

[@AshikurRahmanRifat]

Do you see the hurricanes

[@Starkada]

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

[@jimbarron9939]

A key quote: Sixteen of the warmest years on record for the globe occurred in the last 17 years (1998 was the exception)." (Ch. 1; Fig. ES.1) Anyone who has followed data on any trend can tell you that 16 maximums yet out of the last 17 is a trend that is extraordinarily powerful with extraordinary momentum. The time to act was last century. But it's still not too late to (eventually) bring the change to a halt, almost certainly at a new higher equilibrium but possibly a survivable one IF and ONLY if we act very rapidly and very effectively. Getting rid of Donald Trump is only an essential step among many essential steps but it's one of the most critical ones. It must be followed rapidly by a PROGRESSIVE Democratic president and then massive corrections of the horrendous damage done to critical government agencies. Some have been so damaged and so polluted with totally incompetent "yes men" who care only about protecting the very economic interests doing the most damage (especially oil) and have no understanding whatsoever of the technologies they are working with that the only workable option for some may be to disband them and create a new one from scratch. In fact, it might be far better to do that with ALL of them.

[@chattycathy8089]

Women, wise men and the young will change the world....old ,white, greedy, men have got to go!!!

[@morishidol4209]

@@chattycathy8089 True. . .

[@Aditya-tw4mz]

Those were the best of times, those were the worst of times...

[@florinadrian5174]

Well, there was Louis XV's "Après moi, le déluge".

[@RM999ll]

I desperately want to say something but at this point it’s more like what should I be doing to help save the only planet we can survive on.

[@Chapperino]

Has anyone got a link to the document Chomsky refers to here?

[@chomskysphilosophy]

www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/dsxbqi/the_most_astonishing_document_in_the_entire/

[@AymanB]

Possibly: www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/ld_cafe_my2021-26_deis_0.pdf

[@Chapperino]

@@AymanB Thanks

[@khurramqasir6815]

@David Chorak that's the most illogical comment I have ever read in my life.

[@khurramqasir6815]

​@David Chorak how do you justify your new premise? if according to you humans have reached wrong conclusions. How do you claim that your denial of certain scientific facts is not wrong? Sure it is very convenient to cross our fingers and hope for the best but rationality and human survival instincts do not allow it. Common sense demands us to work with the knowledge and data we have in front of us and act accordingly. Tbh for the sake of civilization, I hope that you are right, but there is overwhelming evidence in support of climate change. lets just say I agree with your "thought has its limits...." and stuff there is one thing I have learned in life that, it is better to be safe than sorry.

[@scottpeters5260]

Bad things may happen they allways do. But trust me Humans are going away. We are on the verge of unbelievable new technologies and inventiins. Look how far we've come in the last 100 years alone. Think what life will be like in the next 100. Space travel , medicine , transportation ect.

[@heroicjourney2508]

Be the change you wish to see

[@SolomonUcko]

Which NTA document is it? KZbin blocks comments with URLs, but some kind of ID would be super helpful for verifying that claim.

[@ridethelightning247]

Does anyone know where to find this document?

[@Gaius2k]

Does anyone have the link, or the name of the document he is referring to?

[@noneyourbuissness493]

Next to ross perot(r.i.p) your the only public figure i truly respect. Though we disagree on religion. Your nack for sorting trough the b.s. and simplifiing the crimes of our government is a true gift from God.

[@henchmanb]

Anyone know which document he is referring to?

[@user-iu4uv9so1o]

Can anyone link the transportation administration paper he talks about? I'd like to read it but I don't know where to find it.

[@raymondsinclair4]

if we can get out of consumerism we will be ok. once outside this the population will be seen as the issue and not something to make money out off.The environment too will breath a huge sigh of relief once we mostly agree this is the issue to tackle

[@ynot75319]

The DOD came out with that document to be ready to deal with the catastrophe

[@9squares]

It is most grim but the fact is, extinction level climate change has been baked in for decades. Our time as a species on this planet is short (much shorter than most realize) and it's true, nothing can be done about it. We as a civilization don't have the technology or even the mindset to combat climate change. Had we listened to the scientists back in the 60's, we might have stood a chance but it's much too late now.

[@chandir7752]

Where's the outrage of the media, hello this world is valuable

[@lallyoisin]

We've made these decisions before! The vast majority of parents have their kids proficient in swimming... ever wonder about the choice of 'sport' ? Religion is removed... nihilism kicks in but hope still prevails. The waters came before. The elders of so called 'primitive peoples' have been warning us about this since the younger dryas period; wonder why it resonates more when Chomsky says it? Still won't be adhered to though. The guy with the bunker is first against the wall. The swimmers are not guaranteed. It will simply start again. The single most biggest decision to be made by humans is weather to repeat the mistakes of those who went before. 🙏

[@AdamBrauch]

Health Care first, then the environment. People are too sick to think or care outside themselves

[@carolconny2763]

Adam B If you are ill, you will not find a cure in health care. There is no profit in a cure, so healthcare will only find a way to make you sicker.

[@zaiux]

In hindsight, seems like Trump was not the nuclear threat

[@waswestkan]

Well after reading the comment human kind is on it's way out, at the hand of human kind.

[@MalcolmCooks]

this is the great filter...

[@DuderinoDeux]

We are and have been in it : stakeholder democracy : the carve up of humanity

[@2BChaos]

All valid, somber and crucial points which must be addressed. But respectfully I disagree with the overall notion that this is the grimmest point in human history. There have been many many other times for us as a species where the future could not have looked bleaker. The world flood of 10,000 BC which was so traumatizing its story made it into every ancient mythos/religion. The Black Death of the 1400s which killed practically all of medieval Europe and Asia. The final days of World War II where after tens of MILLIONS of deaths there was widespread fear that dropping the atom bomb would ignite the atmosphere and vaporize the whole planet. All of those happened and yet here we are today. You could fill a library with the number of times people have predicted “the end” or “downfall” of human civilization. What we face now will still be a struggle and yes there may even be deaths, but just saying we’re all f***ed is nothing but fear and ignorance controlling you.

[@ronkirk5099]

We need to at least reduce the worldwide nuclear stockpiles well below the levels which may cause a "nuclear winter" if the weapons were all used in a war. That is the minimum action we need to take as a global society to insure mankind's survival. We also at the same time need to move aggressively on measures to mitigate global warming. Human survival is in the balance.

[@Hoslt]

Link to the environment document?

[@universalacousticradio5540]

All choices still remain with the consumer and the voter....

[@susanwilson9241]

He's right. Our entire way of life has to change because it is simply unsustainable. THAT is the inconvenient truth that no one wants to face. We don't have time anymore to gradually transition onto clean energy. That choice was made for us by the governments who ignored the climate scientists who warned us decades ago of what was coming but were ignored. Fixing this now is going to require the world's governments and the corporations that own them to work together. I don't think that's going to happen.

[@comradetrashpanda8777]

Corporations and governments working together? That's how we got into this mess. Capitalism must be dismantled and done away with. Corporations should not exist

[@susanwilson9241]

@@comradetrashpanda8777 - Yes, it is how we got into this mess, but if there is any chance of maintaining our civlization it is also how we could get out of this mess. Have you considered the anarchy of the alternative? I don't see that as better than what we have now. If governments and corporations don't work together billions will die because there is already enough global warming baked-in to collapse our civilization globally through crop failure and water shortage. I suspect we're headed for another dark age.

[@comradetrashpanda8777]

@@susanwilson9241 I see our only path forward is to take away the massive resources and wealth that has been hoarded by the capitalist class and use that to address the climate apocalypse. As the conditions continue to get more drastic over the next decade the elites who occupy our government and the capitalists who run these corporations will simply abandon us to our fate. However at this moment this system requires our labor to operate. If we want this to stop we must withhold that labor until our demands are met. We should refuse to go to work, we should block traffic, we should prevent freight from moving and planes from flying. The economy is what is killing this planet and as long as it continues I'm afraid we have no hope of survival

[@susanwilson9241]

@Language and Programming Channel - You're right. It's been unsustainable since the Industrial Revolution, we just chose not to realize it. Climate change is forcing our heads out of the sand - well most of us. But don't worry, climate change is a problem with a built-in solution. After billions die and our civilization crashes - no more problem!

[@susanwilson9241]

@@comradetrashpanda8777 - Nope, you can protest until you're blue in the face, your government can't help you because they sold you out long ago. Here's what I think is going to happen in the western world - first the price of groceries is going to get astronomically high. $10 for a tomato. Then we'll have shortages at the grocery stores. Then there will be no more deliveries to the grocery stores. People won't go to work because they will need to fend for themselves and their families. That is the beginning of the end of our civilization. While this is happening the rich will jump in their helicopters and head to their luxury bunkers. You're darned right they will abandon us to our fate.

[@rivejames]

Gate keeper

[@almightyalious2804]

I care about the world and humanity and that's why I'm depressed, all of the world nations need to unite

[@pierreproudhon9008]

I thought he’s dead in 2008

[@pantarhei7335]

Where can I find the paper he is talking about?

[@pantarhei7335]

Found it in another comment. www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/ld_cafe_my2021-26_deis_0.pdf

[@Daretoknow2020]

Is there any way I can contact you via email?

[@jojonesjojo8919]

Can someone put up a link too this report? I can't find it

[@ericpmoss]

I think it's this: www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/ld_cafe_my2021-26_deis_0.pdf I don't see a paragraph explicitly saying "what's the point?" but it's a 500page doc, and most of it is "the choices we are analyzing don't really change the endgame" and the choices are all versions of doing something.

[@davidcraig9779]

So why not get together and demand a 2/3 majority?

[@imhoisntworthmuch5754]

Dec 7th... happy belated birthday.

[@SuperSpeedMonkey]

Poor Chomsky. Imagine dying as the most disappointed, miserable and pessimistic human being ever to walk the earth.

[@tastemaker_87]

Imagine dying of radiation or extreme heat or food insecurity. Noam will probably be long gone before these realities hit the northern hemisphere so he's talking out of concern for future generations therefore he's empathetic and intelligent not miserable or pessimistic.

[@ehthisham]

Appreciate his opinion! Mr. Noam talks about reducing carbon emissions. What's the substitute for them? Are those electrical cars implied here to lay the chem trails across the planet?

[@markgigiel2722]

We HAVE passed the point of no return due to inaction decades ago. So, nuclear war is a bad idea, but why worry about the rest. Have fun, because we are doomed regardless. So, love one another and enjoy each day and don't worry about all the other bullshit because it can't be fixed. Accept it. The descent will be horrible and it's coming sooner than we think.

[@brokenstrenght]

The most grim moment was long ago...we are dealing with the after shocks. But the most shocking thing ever to human kind was when we lost life in the garden. But the Almighty had a plan of salvation. Jeshua the anointed. All else is unimportant but useful to His cause.

Google" How Scientists Got Climate Change So Wrong Few thought it would arrive so quickly. Now we’re facing consequences once viewed as fringe scenarios. By Eugene Linden"

[@wandefter]

Man.. It's even worse now.

[@pragmaticduck1772]

I love noam and have read many of his books, just wish hed expand on the point in regards to trump, why is the threat of nuclear war increasing? Maybe he has expanded only just not here...

[@thomasellis8027]

The grim, unprecedented moments before the threat to organized human life was once described by another undervalued intellectual, scientist, writer, and political thinker --- the Hebrew prophet, Daniel. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

[@marcusbriggs3223]

7 damn degrees 😳 we are fucked