How To Figure Out What You Want In Life -

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Timestamps
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:01:11 - Sponsor
0:03:05 - Obsession with work
0:13:00 - What does self-growth mean?
0:20:00 - Should you aim at perfection?
0:22:00 - What is the value of ingredients?
0:35:00 - Alex's relationship with his audience
0:40:00 - What is the value of tools?
0:50:00 - The value of the act of cooking
1:00:00 - The relationship with food and culture
1:05:00 - The relationship with comments
1:20:00 - The value of understanding something new
1:38:00 - Outro
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Music
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[@FrenchGuyCooking]

Loved spending time with you Nathaniel ! Now, you gotta come and cook with me 😂

[@nobackupplan]

It would be my absolute pleasure!!

[@VideoSchoolOnline]

2 of my favorite KZbinrs chatting - so excited to see this conversation pop up!

[@laurentpastorelli1354]

Super Video, merci de partager toutes tes histoires. Grace a toi je fais des super ramen a mes enfants (meme si ma fille me dit que ma premiere version etait la meilleure, et j ai jamais reussi a la refaire) et mon fils adore faire des pates fraiches. J aimerais beaucoup voir un episode "behind the scene" la cuisine de comment tu fais un episode. je fais parti du 3% des francais qui regarde ta chaine

[@madeinkonada]

It's great to see you two together:)

[@doramiheler]

I am wondering what dish would that be..one of his fave childhood food maybe? The word needs a FrenchGuyCooking x Nathaniel feat Nathaniel's mom colab

[@vincenzosplate]

Great episode. Alex is a legend. We started on youtube at the same time. Still remember those days

[@asalbastani7987]

I think as humans, we overcompensate for the unpredictability of life to create symbolism for things we encounter and happen to us, to let go of the fault, responsibility or grief that life throws at us. We attach meaning to get through life. Understanding that not everything has to have a meaning frees us SO MUCH mental energy, it gives you the ability to accept and move on.

[@nicoskefalas]

Big fan of you both!!! I was wondering if this would ever happen 😂 Editing to say that Alex you do make art and your content does matter! You entertain and educate people. Your content lifted me up in some dark periods of my life. So keep it up 😊

[@jakeomara5024]

God what a beautiful conversation. Felt like I was on the brink of tears the whole time. Who knew a conversation about mayonnaise could make me so emotional lol

[@lookdontsee]

Vous dirigez les deux seules chaînes que je regarde sur KZbin. Merci d'avoir eu cette conversation et d'avoir partagé vos idées avec nous !

[@Ankesadventures]

I LOVED LOVED LOVED listening to Alex speak. So deep and interesting!!

[@Fattman1243]

Ahh, I love you both independently, and such a pleasure to see you together!

[@iDarkBladei2]

Thank you for that. So beautiful, i almost cried.

[@maciekpysz]

Great to see the two of you together! Amazing conversation and insights, thank you! :)

[@julijanatomicevic7934]

Brilliant interview, the two of you clicked on many levels as you also learned from each other. Alex was very impressed with you and your deep insights into his purpose and what he was doing and who he was. I hope you develop friendship with him and thank you for sharing and allowing him to express himself more. I didn’t know he was an engineer, now he makes a lot more sense to me :)

[@lvoo48]

Alex made it so easy for you. Such a deep person and great speaker.

[@diegoaguado5650]

No Backup plan episodes had been on my todo list for a while now. This is the first episode I listen to, I'm only 40 mins into it and it has been an absolute delight. I am not much of a cooking person or enjoy cooking content but this has absolutely been an amazing highlight amongst my travels through the internet. Nathaniel and Alex, you must have another colab! Thank you for this.

[@nikiveggou1255]

Honestly, your podcasts are amazing 😍. Well made, you make your guests feel comfortable and you are such an amazing listener

[@daisyrosario3438]

So refreshing!💯

[@leolaf6501]

Alex every of yor series is ART❤

[@gazeezus]

my two favorite youtubers in one podcast.....mind blown.

[@DanielleGlick]

Such an unexpected collab of 2 channels I love! It was awesome to hear Alex speak about his videos from a philosophical view.

[@ladymonicatorresortuno7882]

I loved the philosophy of the ingredients and the food in the countries. Interesting! So beautiful to here Alex 🥰

[@nkj321]

Regardless of whether Alex views his videos as a success or failure, they’re a success to me. So happy to have discovered his videos. Also, another great convo Nathaniel, the depth you’re able to go with your guests is admirable.

[@Joulfreunde]

Thanks so much for this great conversation! Really enjoyed it 🤓

[@emmanuelokoye1575]

What a beautiful conversation!

[@rinadedhiya108]

Wow! This is such a great podcast, so stimulating, it was so artistic, beautiful, tasty, it was like best culinary experience of a conversation!!! You are such a deep listener and a sharp observer, loved your questions. The questions that you ask come from such a deep place of curiosity, your personal observations which makes it so real and powerful. A Big Fan ... you are the best! And Alex is so so so amazing, he is a fine balance of art and science... love him !

[@Lucas_S91]

Not to necessarily argue with Alex, but I think food and cooking can be an analogy for life. Sure, in cooking you often get to pick the recipe and the ingredients, which isn't always an option in life. But sometimes you just have to cook with whatever is in your fridge or pantry as well, or maybe your preferred ingredient wasn't available and you have to use a substitute. It's the same in life.

[@marxrist5428]

Such an amazingly interesting conversation

[@andrewaway]

Fabulous. I so want to participate in this conversation but better to shut up and listen. ❤❤

Whaaaaaat? is this actaully happening! Awesome, loving it!

[@gaylemarkow]

i loved this interview! Thank you! and Bravo!

[@Lex_Marion]

I waited a while to watch this, but I was really excited when I saw this came out. This is such a wonderful marriage of two people with ideas that spark!! I love Alex's vids and I relate to him a lot as someone who is not a chef professionally but is absolutely obsessed with food and cooking in the same way. It was great to hear him speak so much about his thoughts

[@pkpmendez3]

I’ve been following Alex for a long time. What a treat! Thank you, Nathaniel. I also love your work, my man. Keep up the great work!

[@balford2112]

Merci pour cette vidéo.

[@PeanutCG]

1:29:53 Hi! Not sure what quote you’re referring to, but this point that you’re discussing is the main theme behind the book Storyworthy by Matthew Dicks. It could have been a quote from him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this idea has been discussed in a few places. Loved the episode! Up there as one of my favorites along with the Matt Dahlia episode.

[@leopetrini]

1:03:56 Alex really understood pasta in Italian culture, his insights are really to the point !

[@eddyinet]

This was a great one. I've never come across Alex but was enamored with the conversation. Nathaniel: I just have to say how proud I am of your approach, and I hope in your eyes success, of your Podcast journey. I've been following you for quite some time and I feel this medium suits you perfectly. I look forward to many more years of being the fourth wall in your conversations with interesting people. Cheers.

[@leolaf6501]

Hey Nathaniel, I see that you put a lot of effort into making this podcasts. What I immediately recognised is that you use high quality microphones and cameras /lenses, but you don't use a studio light. This might sound like a crazy question but I would like to know if its on purpose or just the fact that there is no other option.😅 For me the background looks brighter then the faces and im always thinking "please turn the lights on"😀 maybe its just me...

[@magnificalux]

For those who want to check out Alex's channel, watch his ramen series first! 🍜 You won't look at ramen the same way again! And you'll also crave ramen more than ever before! 🤤

[@evindrews]

I love seeing a different side to alex!

[@gucika100]

Hey Nathaniel, since you live in Paris, it would be cool to invite Sebastian Debs, he is a professional Esports player, particularly plays Dota 2. Would be cool to see you two chat :)

[@Jen-iy7lq]

Alex attempts to master or improve classic dishes in various cuisines from a engineering approach utilizing the scientific method; I don't understand how anyone can miss that and wonder what on earth is the point of some of his endeavors. Additionally, as an analyst, I really don't like the thumbnail of this video; for a lot of us, this level of dedication and type of thought process is part of a daily routine. Alex just has an amusing and cheeky way of applying it to cuisine, which anyone involved in the culinary field must concede is somewhat normal here as well.

[@Julien-bt7fd]

Mayo, it is only magical when spread wide like butter😅🌶🍇👑

[@balford2112]

Alex, peut-être fais une vidéo pour demander l’aide du public pour trouver la solution la plus directe, marrante, originale pour nettoyer ta machine pleine de cafards avant de la vendre ou pourquoi pas, la donner à qqun qui en a besoin.

[@chrisjohnsson]

Paris dream team! 👌👌

[@theteachingcouple.online]

Great to see Alex on your podcast 😍