"NOBODY SAW IT COMING" | Richard Jefferson On Playing With Young Steph and Klay

[@YOUNGMANANDTHREE]

Obligatory full episode link! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnLHgnawq9yMiac

[@b-radg916]

GREAT clip JJ … I’ll check out the full interview!

[@Primenumber19]

Question… why do we all pretend Draymond hasn’t had the yips for five years?

[@jadengregg4832]

No

[@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS]

It's so sad that a team that won by spending more than everyone else and by lucking into playing only injured teams could change the game, especially since they played the weakest style by shooting mostly 3s. The warriors deserve blame, not credit for pussifying the league.

[@b-radg916]

@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS: So why is Steph Shaq’s favorite player? His play was anything but pussified.

[@DawryMike]

That mid 2010s Warriors squad became the model for pretty much every team in the NBA. It was bizarre seeing one team in real time force the entire game of basketball to shift.

[@mikemikeyee]

The dominance then was so mouthwatering.

[@akeembrown7661]

Felt like our lifetimes Jordan’s bulls. I never thought I would see a once a generation type team

[@b-radg916]

Their brand of basketball made me want to watch the game again. The only reason I don’t think I’m a Warriors bandwagon is that the last time I was into basketball was when I was a kid watching Nate Thurmond and Rick Barry! #Dubs 👊🏽

[@felix3033]

No they didn’t lol the 2014 Spurs did .

[@felix3033]

@@akeembrown7661 Spurs ??

[@olivermichael7152]

I gotta say this, the best thing about this podcast is there is absolutely no cutting the other person off, you say your piece then they do. JJ you’re an amazing host

[@phillipparedes6444]

Very true

[@Handle9]

That's a fact I sometimes find myself looking for a different podcast with the same guest for that reason lol.

[@romerobryan83]

Cuz they were both very smart players

[@bradzukerman9141]

💯 It’s not always horrible for a host to interject gracefully interject, but there are some hosts who just seem absolutely incapable of giving their guests any space whatsoever, and it’s awwwfulllll. [lookin at you David Aldridge 👀]

[@Jamesah]

​@@romerobryan83 yep and cuz they are smart they are asking good questions and giving good answers...

[@kendalldavis6082]

The most underrated part of Steph’s game is his stamina and endurance. He has the lungs of a professional cross country runner. And that’s what makes him such a threat off ball even well into his 30s. So many players talk about how drained they are after having to run around the court guarding him off ball.

[@kevindelavega3746]

Fr, even after packing on at least 10 lbs of muscle

[@yg2522]

Steph litterally put delavodova in the hospital by just running him into the ground.

[@boondockbwoy14]

Facts

[@Ahmari223]

@@yg2522 facts that’s crazy

[@HypocritesExposd]

Curry doesn’t even look winded after running so much

[@kbar5821]

One of the most amazing things about Steph's career arc is that he could (and should) have won Most Improved Player in 2016 after winning the MVP in 2015!

[@Realreggierob]

FACTS! It was unbelievable to see

[@themomofmemes467]

Then lost a 3-1 lead to LeBron. So improved! Def MVP

[@12tac0cat21]

​@@themomofmemes467reminder that 3-1 is also stephs record against lebron in the finals

[@themomofmemes467]

@@12tac0cat21 Reminder that it's 2-1. One of those doesn't count

[@mrkickinthesky]

@@themomofmemes467 the mvp and most improved is a regular season award,you stop the season at conference finals,steph would have overtaken lebron,it was at the finals lebron proved himself to be still the best by leading everyone in all 5 major categories,but dont pretent like it didnt went to 7 games to the final posession,kyrie had to hit that super clutch 3 ,they needed the suspension vs draymond ,otherwise it would have ended in 5,and kyrie and bron had to play out of their minds in the final 3 games,while steph underperformed,be it cause of injury or mind games,but all that and it still went to a game 7 ,only loosing by one posession,you needed one of the best,if not the best player,your 2nd best player to play historically good,league interference and warriors injuries to the inside ,just to win by one posession in 7 games,i dont think its a shame,it hurts but if you take in all those factors...

[@fahmyboy1]

When he said “I forgot you were here” to Tommy 😂😂

[@AkaiiUsweet]

I felt the same way

[@bikesandbutts315]

"i know, it happens" was so quick lmao

[@DRodTrucking]

I forgot about him too 😂

[@felix3033]

He doesn’t provide anything to the show JJ needs to get rid of him

[@Des_from_the_Wes]

@@felix3033 no

[@ABruhMan]

I love Curry stories man, dude really changed the NBA

[@henrywitherspoon8064]

I'm glad RJ mentioned David Lee he's very underrated

[@mlee4467]

He used to put up nasty numbers with the knicks

[@H0tDawgWater911]

💯

[@dogshxtgames3257]

mad underrated

[@arco718]

I know most recent all stars, however I had never even heard the name David Lee before this video

[@terrancecarmichael619]

@@arco718 Damn go back and watch some highlights. I wasn’t old enough to watch him in his prime but when I started watching 2011-2012 he was still pretty good on the Warriors.

[@qqw743]

"Would Draymond be as good on another team" can easily be answered by watching him in international play. In Tokyo for example, KD was the obvious scoring leader, but Draymond was doing everything else like he always does. Elite NBA players on the team were on the bench so that USA could have Draymond's defense, passing, picks, intensity, etc.

[@kpkafle]

I noticed in the Olympics if Team USA was having problems and started losing in games. Coach Pop would put Draymond in to stabilize and change the momentum of the team. He knew that Draymond would make the right and simple plays. International rules basketball is so different than NBA basketball but Draymond had the confidence and respect of his team mates. The three best players for Team USA were Durant, Jrue Holiday and Draymond in a team that included Booker, Tatum and Lillard. It's not that these players were not good but the older guys were more experienced and could adapt their game better to international rules.

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

@@kpkafle damn I wish I had watched live I missed the Team USA Olympics run

[@theressak]

Agreed! People really underestimate Draymond's bball IQ. Dude is hella smart!

[@getmoneychill6462]

In the great words of Stephen A Smith Draymond is a basketball savant

[@anhiirr]

not just IQ but PEDIGREE. Pedigree is everything

[@thorfinnthegoatmc]

20 years from now we will still be talking about the greatness of Steph Curry

[@alejandroserrano7755]

and off each player. We tend to take lightly the fact that they broke the Bulls 72-10 record. Everybody said that record would be untouched.

[@andystrub7930]

20 years from now? That's an insult to Steph. As long as basketball is being played and people are talking about it Stephs name will be a part of the game just like Kareems, Kobes, Larry's, Magics, Michael's, etc...He is in that class of greatest players of all time and will always be talked about as such.

[@thorfinnthegoatmc]

@@andystrub7930 FACTS BRO ALSO CURRY >>>> MAGIC when its all said and done

[@BalanceBalls]

Steph and these Warriors will be talked about until the end of times no doubt 💯

[@yerik6034]

If people still talk about kareem, bill Russell, wilt and bird, curry will be talked about till the end of time

[@cwflet01]

That "What if David Lee never got injured" is without question the BIGGEST what if. In hindsight, it completely changed basketball.

[@listeinn]

like their opponents didn't get injured... give me a break lol

[@cwflet01]

@@listeinn what does the opponents injuries have to do with what I’ve said? Guess you just needed to get something off.

[@TheRipePunani]

@@listeinn Bruh you completely missed the point lmao

[@aaronhutchinson885]

You're right. I've said this for years..he doesn't get injured. We don't see Point Draymond, thus we don't see Steph the way he is now

[@TheColdest510]

Blessings in disguise tbh

[@rockjm9876543210]

That 73 win season was draymond's best offensive season. Dude was a legit 3rd scorer. 14 ppg, 9.5 rpg, and 7.4 apg. While shooting 38% from 3.

[@chinoxSD]

The fact draymond was also the best defender on that team and could switch legitimately 1 thru 5 and still be consistent on the offensive floor ...that was peak green thru year 2015-2019

[@samknight9825]

What’s insane is that he’s still insane on defense and can still hold his own on the offensive end

[@Stevie_PGA]

Say what you want about Dray, but you slot prime Draymond on any all-time team and they are always going to get better - he is the perfect glue guy.

[@aa-jx5zz]

Playing 2k with that team small ball 1st 5 out line up curry klay Iggy barnes and green🙌👍💯

[@philliposkaypaghian]

Draymond could’ve averaged that for a couple more years but once KD joined he obviously was gonna be the fall guy, i feel like those years stunted his growth as a shooter/scorer

[@bobwiegers]

RJ is a unique mix of super insightful, kinda funny, and a great big jerk. great interview.

[@SoulDuJour]

Totally agree, but it's like necessary jerk to make the insightful part funny

[@dre32pitt]

RJ is the type where if he's not capping on you, it's because he doesn't like you..

[@abyan63]

This was so refreshing to watch, by the time I knew it the video was done. No grown men yelling, no interjecting, allowing the others to clarify their theories, intelligent basketball IQ! One of the best basketball podcast out there, along with AllTheSmoke Podcast. Well done!

[@patrickwilliamscoaching]

Those warrior teams were so crazy fun to watch. The perfect blend of players with Livingston, Iggy, Bogut, the role players were so locked in.

[@noahdaugherty8235]

Locked in and committed to their roles. That was key. No one had an ego, no matter how many years played, accolades achieved, or minutes they used to get. Steph helps set that tone I think with his unselfishness

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Leandro Barbosa, David West etc

[@JSmith-kh4vo]

I wish RJ could be a part of the podcast with you guys the chemistry is there.

[@MarcoForesto]

Agree!

[@juanemiliocanela1441]

💯💯💯💯

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

In an interview Andrew Bogut confirmed Draymond was asking to get traded off the team because Jackson rarely used him. That David Lee injury not only gave Draymond the opportunity to play more it also ensured Draymond didn't traded. Jackson really had no idea how to use Green.

[@sratnatozmrde]

many coaches dont have any idea how many gems they have on team and how to work with them.

[@newagain9964]

And other players on that team. Jackson is a good coach to hire after a team has stunk for a while…But not to keep long term

[@JuliettKilo]

@@newagain9964 Jackson is one those coaches that can bring their team to playoff but no any further, like Doc River.

[@vinnyl264]

@@JuliettKilo doc river won a title…

[@JosepinoRizal]

@@vinnyl264yes but he have the most blown 3-1 lead too.

[@quilenblackwell4820]

Richard Jefferson is the definition of being unapologetically HIMSELF and literally not caring what anyone thinks about him. Makes him a great pundit and media personality!

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

Always be grateful to Jerry West for making sure they didn’t trade Klay.

[@jordanbarclay4434]

When we’re they going to trade klay

[@renenhfule]

@@jordanbarclay4434 for Kevin Love in 2014 before the Cavs did. Deal would've been Kevin Love for Klay and Harrison Barnes

[@tindao7708]

@Brian Charleston he worked as an advisor with golden state. He protested against the trade

[@Deathnote819]

Jerry west was a consultant with the team at the time and he threatened to leave his job if they traded klay and west was helping lead roster decisions at the time and they didn’t want him to go bc he was the architect behind 2-3 dynasties in the past so they listened

[@HypocritesExposd]

@Brian Charleston Jerry West told the Warriors “if you trade Klay, I quit”

[@allonisaacs8765]

Crazy to think RJ played with Steph, Klay, and Draymond!

[@nickjcirillo]

And then lebron kyrie and love

[@YOUNGMANANDTHREE]

It really is

[@allonisaacs8765]

@JJ Redick And then beat them, while being on the Cavs championship team!

[@demetrisosei2415]

@@nickjcirillo and Jason Kidd and kawhi I think

[@dogshxtgames3257]

and before all that VC

[@jahper3426]

Gotta be the most articulate duo in basketball media.

[@MrFraiche]

RJ speaks at the right intelligent level that JJ needs on the channel. This should be the new Stephen A and Skip. Real basketball talk, not a bunch of angry dudes talking nonsense.

[@mrantonio7656]

I couldn’t agree more

[@boondockbwoy14]

Facts

[@khwezi_bass]

They could add him and get the 3rd guy to be more of a moderator.

[@alejandroserrano7755]

I agree. I saw a nice chemistry here. He adds just enought jokes to balanced it all out.

[@John-ct9zs]

I remember back around 2015 it felt like the Steph/Klay Warriors just came out of nowhere, shooting from all over the court. They completely changed the game. In 2012, 2013, it was still the old NBA, with the Spurs, Heat still competing, and other teams like the Kobe Lakers and Dirk Mavericks were hanging around. Then all of a sudden, almost overnight the league changed in 2015 with the Steph/Klay Warriors.

[@armonbrown213]

Yurp yurp

[@jpete3027666]

I’ve been a warriors fan for 30 years and I thought that early Steph/Klay team was good and they’d be a playoff team for years but I never thought they would be championship caliber. I’m still amazed.

[@shaquilhoskins3078]

I love Steph bcuz he made me sound like BBall philosopher bcuz his run in the March Madness was my 1st time watching college ball and I told all my friends he’s goin to change the league he proved me right thanks so much Steph 🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LeviNotik]

Thank you Shaq

[@86Sentra]

@@LeviNotik^

[@Justjo3223]

Warriors fan here from before and after the we believe team. Everything they touched on is true. Been a blessing getting to witness this from our home team

[@damonfranklin1351]

I’ve gained much more respect for Steph’s career as it’s gone by. I’ll be honest that I used to be a nonbeliever but he’s so special. Glad I grew up in this era of basketball

[@YaMamaStillLoveMeTho]

As a real life long warriors fans I loved this conversation and how they explored and understood the full trajectory we took...they hit the nail on the coffin! With so many points and aspects..I talk about about of these different subjects with the warriors all the time....great convo!

[@ballislife1616]

It’s amazing looking back what the Warriors accomplished, and they’re still going. Gives me that nostalgic feel 🥹

[@rlawson598]

Game four of last year's finals defines Steph for me. The way he can will or carry that team to win sometimes despite what Klay or Draymond are contributing. In his full-on Batman mode, anybody can be his Robin. He and Wiggins were in basketball nirvana in that series. Steph will always be the catalyst..

[@jerryking2194]

One of the greatest modern era basketball clips

[@sftheletters]

RJ is right. Where the Warriors truly changed basketball is by proving teams could win championships with a small ball 5. Dray was/is savvy enough to guard bigger players, and Steph & Klay would torch teams that rolled out multiple big men on switches. That versatility made them a dynasty. Obviously Steph is the catalyst of it all, arguably a top 5 player of all time but Draymonds versatility also made them nearly unbeatable.

[@dre32pitt]

It's the perfect mix.. two all-time shooters and a all-time 'glue/defense first guy'.. Props to GS front office.. When they said 'light years..', they weren't joking, lol.. Injuries and the rest of the league caught up with them.. but Steph is arguably better now, than then.. Older.. wiser.. but more importantly, STRONGER.. he's yolk'd now and has the wind of an Ethiopian long distance runner.. His game will age like fine wine (Klay's too) as he can just sit in the corner and provide spacing for the Poole/Kuminga PnR in the future..

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Draymond will go down as one of the best HOF DPOTY star. Not to mention he’s very underrated as a point forward.

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Klay will also be HOF and historical shooter. I still think if he had not gotten injured. We would have seen the best version of Klay

[@butlar265]

People don't credit Draymond enough for figuring out what to do to compliment the shooting of both of them

[@5N0023]

7:49 "I forgot you were here." Bro why did RJ do him like that 😂💀

[@SirGenesis206]

Steph is absolutely a shooting guard that sometimes plays point. And good on the coaches for seeing that, sticking with Draymond, and letting him loose.

[@Hawkgoulet]

Too many people forget about the importance of Andrew Bogut. Yes, his stats are not eye-popping but watch the games. He was so important to the defensive identity to that team. His injury and Draymond's suspension were the reason they didn't win that 73-9 season.

[@arshdeepkaur3377]

Thankyou for giving a shoutout to my favourite basketball trio of all time! Love my Dubs and love ya guys for this 💕

[@RedE4NBA2K]

Honestly you could see Steph was gonna be an offensive juggernaut if he could just stay healthy, obviously not to the level he has become, but Klay I felt really came out of nowhere.

[@cheerioss-9121]

No you couldn’t.

[@RedE4NBA2K]

@@cheerioss-9121 yes you definitely could. I thought him and Brandon Jennings were gonna be the next generation of future star PGs. We know what happened with Jennings, but the potential was there for both of them. Never thought Steph was gonna change how basketball is played obviously, but point is u knew he was gonna be offensively one of the best players in the league if he stayed healthy, because the only thing stopping him early in his career were his constant ankle injuries.

[@NoVisionGuy]

I immediately joined the Warriors bandwagon in 2014, I knew that team would be magical.

[@chefjonsf]

As a lifetime Warrior fan, I never saw it coming. I thought Steph would be a great roll player at best. Unbelievable.

[@HypocritesExposd]

As a fellow lifelong Warrior fan, I thought he’d be a great statistical leader on yet another sub 500 Warriors squad. So glad I was wrong.

[@xembones]

at the time I was telling people that they should trade him for picks and try to draft Austin Rivers.. good thing im not a gm😅

[@javierlandaverde4108]

I’m a warriors fan but when we had Cohen as the owner. Honestly seeing him butchered the we believe team. I had always been watching March madness to see who the warriors possibly can draft. I was disappointed when we drafted consistently big men who flopped like Anthony Randolph, Epke, Biendrins to some extent. I saw this one game. It was Davidson vs Gonzaga. Scouting gonzaga players. Out of sudden this very undersized 6”3 SG was torching the elite Gonzaga that was highly ranked in the nation. Curry absolutely crushed them. I say down and I was like. Warriors better draft this kid. Draft happened and many people had curry going top 10. Some people had him going to minessota since Minny had like 3 protected top 15 picks. I was surprised they drafted Ricky Rubio, Johnny Flynn ahead of curry. I was dumbfounded how lucky the warriors got drafting him since Dell Curry made it known he wanted his son to get drafted by NYK. Everything worked out. I knew kid was special. Was shocked he got those two nasty ankle injuries that costed him missing so many years. I think those injuries really toook away from what he had an amazing start to his rookie year and sophomore year.

[@sebthelobster]

Individually, Steph dray and klay have all glaring weakness in their game. But together it’s just a beautiful thing. Almost like a perfectly balanced D&D team designed to take down whatever monsters coming their way.

[@ezyryder11]

Except the Lakers in the 2023 playoffs. Sad 😢 until then, they never lost a series when all together and healthy

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Literally almost every super star or top 10 player of all time have weaknesses.

[@duffman1876]

I always say this!!! Real one's remember da early G-State in 2K12-14😅😅🍻🍺

[@jordanbarclay4434]

Mark jackson is a max genius I never thought curry would be that good not after those injuries either nobody really expected him to be that if they tell the truth I mean first unanimous mvp you thought that would be Lebron or kobe or Kevin but curry at the time no never seen it coming

[@dadagaming1260]

I started to become a fan since B Davis and J richardson we believe era

[@DaExpoSing1]

Reals ones became a GS fan the day Steph was drafted.

[@Stardust414]

I thoroughly enjoy the 2 of you together. I’ve long been a fan of JJ (I’m a lifelong Duke fan 🤷🏼‍♀️) but RJ has really grown on me the past few yrs and yes, I’m a Warriors fan 🙌🏼

[@Qharisma]

I love RJ .... I actually loved him as a player ... but even more as a commentator ... I need friends like RJ.

[@NZV13]

Im not a big fan of GSW and this era of basketball but i remember just telling to a friend that the warriors were something we never saw 1 or 2 years before steve kerr arrived... They were spectacular back then

[@hoppy23]

Steph isn't a pg like steoh said himself call me whatever you want regardless of position he's one of the best basketball players the game has ever scene and he actually creates more looks for his teammates on and off ball combined then anyone in the league

[@janicerichards8959]

Yes Dear Facts ❤❤❤

[@KW-fb4kv]

I love the dynamic when these two are together. The competitive $#%-talk is fantastic.

[@Itz_Marni-_-]

7:29 I feel the same way bout ky, that says a lot about how good steph is at PG. To JJ’s last point that’s y they have 4 rings, individually would thrive but grew and still r together.

[@jordanb.4514]

Richard is a top 3 guest of yours in my opinion

[@RoLLUpAFat1]

Feels good to live that decade and witness the shift in the NBA. Dubs 🎉

[@RjFunnfarmm]

I would live for JJ and Jefferson to have their own show on ESPN. Both arent boring and well spoken 👏 👌

[@Jollighe]

The death lineup was so lethal it was scary and fun to watch at the same time.

[@boondockbwoy14]

The Hampton 5..Steph, Klay, Draymond, Iggy, Bogut

[@cy3000]

@@boondockbwoy14 Hampton 5 was with KD because they recruited him at a meeting in a Hampton, no?

[@HypocritesExposd]

@@cy3000 Correct. Bogut was the dubs starting center, but was never a part of the Death lineup nor the Hampton 5.

[@alejandroserrano7755]

It felt like every time was just scared/angry at them. They would give it their all and still lose.

[@peterthegreat100]

@@cy3000 yes, the Hampton 5 lineup was Steph, Klay, Draymond, KD & Iguodala

[@marcbrown6084]

I love hearing people that sound so smart about a thing that I don’t feel inadequate bc they are just that good

[@letmediecast]

The "not understanding why Draymond is a valuable" trope is THE dividing line between people who watch basketball and people who understand basketball.

[@janicerichards8959]

No lies told here Dear❤❤❤

[@HypocritesExposd]

It’s funny when I see people STILL say Draymond is useless or that all he does is kick people in the nuts.

[@user-gm5gc1be4w]

He’s useful but at times he’s emotions can negatively affect the team. I.e 2016 suspension, fighting KD, and Poole punch

[@user-gm5gc1be4w]

I still rock with him though but if he keeps a lot of these antics up I won’t be surprised if he’s gone as his play declines and he gets older.

[@HypocritesExposd]

@@user-gm5gc1be4w yes when he lets his emotions take over, it can negatively affect the team. OP’s point is when people don’t understand his value, all they see are his flaws and lack of scoring.

[@justinoliver4053]

Every all time great had elite teammates. People need to constantly be reminded that this at the end of the day is a team game.

[@TheGallant9]

They played like the Bad Boy Pistons, Zeke, Joe and Vinny were interchangeable at the 1 and 2 spot. The difference is that Steph was really benevolent in sharing the ball. Even if you wanna call him a 2 guard the guard wants to have the ball in his hands and Steph was willing to come off the ball for people to get touches. That's a real General. Richard always tryna find ways to diminish Steph with back handed compliments. Even tho it's Larry Bird folks always find ways to say LeBron is the Best Small Forward ever but don't mention he scores primarily at the rim, he doesn't space the floor and is a horrible free throw shooter to be at the wing position but no one ever calls him a undersized Center or Power Forward. They always try to find passive aggressive ways to hate Steph, especially anyone who played on that Cavs team, weather its Bron making Steph and Klay tombstones to step over at his party, weather that's Richard Tristan or Kendrick hating on him on NBA networks. The only Cav who didn't hate on Steph was Tye Lue who came out and said they still Doubled Steph even with KD on the Floor and even KD finds ways to shade Steph on social media, he got mad about that

[@sauldula]

It's not a diss, it's a fact. Steph's movement off ball was their most effective offense. When he ran point you could trap him in the pick and roll, off ball there was damn near no defense for iggys smart cuts, and drays passing with the defense jumping at every steoh and klay curl

[@easymoneyrad]

Love dray and jj’s pdocast, they just know how to talk and interview and dissect the game and players

[@gsp3428]

If they traded Steph instead of Monte, there is no warriors.

[@cheerioss-9121]

Bucks would’ve been the dynasty with Giannis and Steph

[@gsp3428]

@@cheerioss-9121 Would they have been able to draft giannis. If you had giannis and steph on the same time, at least now they would be hard to beat. It took Giannis about 4 years to really become a great player though.

[@cheerioss-9121]

@@gsp3428 It’s actually scary how these time tables actually match up, lmao. Monte gets traded in 2012. Steph has ankle problems very early in his career so it’s in play that the bucks definitely are still bad enough to get a top pick. Giannis is drafted just one year after this deal haha. So if Steph ankles continue to be the problem that’s a plus for the bucks. You say it took Giannis four years to really develop. Steph doesn’t break out and really become Steph until 2015. That’s 2years with Giannis on the team. Steph and Giannis if they just develop and build the team correctly literally would’ve both been hitting their primes at similar times

[@gsp3428]

@@cheerioss-9121 Yeah that would be pretty amazing, they are actually the two most improved players that have ever played. I didnt think Steph would even make it in the league when he came to the NBA, and then he was a pretty good player his first 4 years,and developed into in my opinion the greatest point guard ever. Giannis was a guy who you might have thought would maybe make a couple all star teams at his peak when he developed, but in my opinion is one of the greatest players ever, could be the GOAT if he ever developed an consistent jumpshot which he is convident in. But a steph and Giannis team would be better than Kobe Shaq or Jordan and Pippen in my opinion.

[@bw7754]

Saw him play at the socon tourney right before his first run in the NCAA’s. Everyone in the gym knew he was special

[@ihateparsley]

So much intelligent insight of basketball here.

[@oudadhakim1857]

This is the first time I questioned whether jj was the smartest basketball mind on the podcast, and I'm all for it!

[@mithicash1444]

On the contrary, my Highschool coach saw it coming in 2011. His number one emphasis when shooting was a quick release. We had drills where all we practiced was quick release. Looking back that is what Steph and Klay thrived on

[@MARISSAFEHERRADURA]

I enjoy your podcast a lot because you are both articulate and insightful thus easy to listen to.

[@MauricioSouza-93]

People hold up LeBron and Giannis as examples of dominance these days, but Stephen Curry is in that category as well. I AM NOT putting Stephen over LeBron and Giannis, but since he debuted in the league, he dominates the league, not physically like Giannis and LeBron, but talent. It's been a decade and they still can't stop Curry, that's dominance too. He changed the game and it's been ten years and he's still one of the best and unstoppable.

[@Ntwolf1220]

Absolutely. Dominance doesn’t have to mean physical dominance like Lebron and Giannis

[@countertenorflor2107]

lebrun has never dominant the league, dude needs at least an elite squad to begin with 😂 and he gets away with his travellings and flagrant fauls all the time!

[@alejandroserrano7755]

I know its your personal setting but in reality Steph and Bron are at the same level. Giannis still has time to get there but come one now.

[@ChrisTreborn]

Yo. This is what we’ve been wanting to hear.

[@hansolodolo1672]

I saw it coming in 2013. All they needed was a healthy Bogut the whole time. They would've had more championships. It's only a hypothetical now.

[@Born2Win7774]

"They were moving faster than the defense can act" that perfectly encapsulated that 73-9 team, their movement was truly a work of art that has yet been replicated.

[@bigpimpin3098]

RJ is dead wrong on Steph being a shooting guard. What makes Steph so lethal is that as soon as he crosses half court with the ball, he's a threat to pull the trigger. This stretches the defense out and helps other players get open. He is also the best off the dribble shooter ever, so you wouldn't see that as much if he was a shooting guard.

[@alejandroserrano7755]

He said he plays more similar to a shooting guard. Steph is literally a modern pg.

[@runthenumbers9698]

JJ and RJ are the best commentators in basketball

[@yonisbadar2129]

I watched Golden State back then the same way I watch the thunder rn

[@blue-phoenix115]

2:07 Very endearing use of that phrase.

[@aidancullen852]

I tear up a little when draymond gets his flowers man I love it

[@JoseVargas-bs8gx]

what a fantastic convo.

[@saycheese6773]

I feel like Klay slightly changed his shorting form post injuries. You can tell their is a slight difference.

[@mrc-17]

Im a warriors fan since run tmc. I watched the 07 we belive team, and RJ play for the dubs. Seeing Klay leave hurt my soul. He better get a standing ovation November 12.

[@jorgeparada8101]

To put in perspective, Rudy Fernandez held the record for most threes in a season as a rookie until Curry came out.

[@HypocritesExposd]

WHO?!?!

[@BrenttttttMCMXC]

this is the best podcast i watched at this day in JJ youtube👍🤭

[@adanomics5997]

Mark Jackson seen it coming.

[@420evaday7]

Steph Curry is definition of hard work dude came out the woodworks how he hit the league and change the whole concept of the game he’s the reason why kids trynna shoot from half court nowadays 😂

[@philbuttler3427]

I think Steph now would be good on any team but Steph when he came in the league idk he clearly had the stuff there to be good but I really believe every top player has the potential to be great and it's coaches and orginizations that see it and know what to foster to get them there. Like Steph and Steve Kerr were perfect for each other like Tim Duncan and Pop were and it took the absolute confidence Kerr had in Steph to get him the opportunity he excelled at. So idk if Steph would be the same player if he went to a team coached by say Larry Brown who hated 3s and just didn't use them.

[@saints2superbowl757]

Revolutionized the game. Got every 8 year old practicing half court shots like they're layups😂. Most transcendent player ever??

[@JamesStiling1985]

I saw it coming when I saw him carry Davidson through the NCAA tourney, when they had zero reason to be there.

[@Blaxdakidd]

Yea me too lol

[@kevinumber7]

I remember the playoffs when Curry and Thompson developed audacious shot making, and thinking, watch out NBA. They completely revolutionized efficiency by 3 pts, and what's great is nobody else who replicate that are as good. They stormed in the era of outside shooting and left Charles Barkeley forever in denial (no chips)

[@shondarby-mcconnell1502]

Shoutout to RJ for talking about David Lee people forget that man was A hopper and I bet they keep him over Draymond if the injury doesnt happen

[@jingqi9106]

It was Jerry West that said if the Warriors were to trade Klay for Love, he would leave. Well, as we know, that trade didn't come to pass and the rest is history. 💯

[@zionplays2918]

The way he holds the pen like he's actually noting or writing something down is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

[@brewer921]

The first jump shooting team to win a title was the Dirk Mavericks.

[@alejandroserrano7755]

I mean it was just Dirk going beast mode.

[@circlebox3]

So if that's your arguement, could I say 2008 Celtics was also a jump shooting team because the big three KG, PP and Ray are all good at shooting the ball? I don't think that alone makes them a jump shooting team, right?

[@brewer921]

​@@circlebox3 Do you really think I'm just talking about Dirk? I called them the Dirk Mavericks as a way of describing the 2011 Mavericks. As a whole, they were a jump shooting team. I would not consider KG a jump shooter.

[@brewer921]

@@alejandroserrano7755 and Kidd, Terry, Peja and DeShawn Stevenson hitting jumpers.

[@TheMediocreDev]

Jason Terry outscored LeBron

[@RockyTucsonPaik]

Great content! Thanks for posting

[@jarrensleezluis3878]

Exactly daymond needs more recognition for playing the 5 at 6’6

[@tapone6621]

I did💯 Peeped it 2013... The Warriors franchise shaped Klay into the shooter he is today due to lack of athleticism compared to Ellis who they traded a season or two before Klays arrival

[@kevinjames60]

I still think Steph is the catalyst for the game changing. Without Stephs elite shooting, Klay be another great shooter and Dray would be a defender without that playmaking

[@lorddj9910]

Vice versa

[@butlar265]

@@lorddj9910 True. Without the spacing both of them provide and the intelligence of Draymond with those passes the game doesn't sway to shooting as much

[@bagchaser326]

@@lorddj9910 nah because Steph is also a great ball handler and has vision. Klay doesn’t have handles and draymond can’t space the floor… Steph is the main reason for all of it lol

[@alejandroserrano7755]

I think its a mixture of everything. Those guys individually are great players but together? Unstoppable. They implemented so many things. Shooting 3s, small ball lineup, quick fast break points, good defense, etc.

[@jeffhardy6333]

You have to throw in Harden and Rockets. I think more teams use their model than the Warriors. They changed the game just as much imo

[@popcrnshower]

Mark Jackson called it before anyone. He knew how great those two were destined to be.

[@cineglasses]

7:49 me too RJ lmaoo

[@funguy2380]

Watching that 2014 and 2015 of drop coverage on that warriors team was hilarious to watch

[@jacobboen7611]

I remember Draymond getting benched in the first finals and Lee saving the day

[@kbar5821]

He didn't save the day, they lost Game 3 but what he did show Dray during that loss was the way to attack the Cavs PnR coverage was to make quick decisions on the short roll to press the 4 on 3 advantage. Worked perfectly in Game 4 along with the lineup change and the rest is history.

[@Idkyou89]

I remember playing college hoops 2k8 and I would use Davidson because I watched a few of stephs college games and I was like damn this kid is good I wanna use him in a video game and then he ends up being the greatest shooter to ever live!

[@dewshr]

By RJ definition joker is a point guard

[@chaset.3249]

he's a point center

[@MariaVasquez-fj7ov]

I was there in the corner front row during that game 6. I was sitting and it was the first time I had seen steph curry. I was just in awe when he was warming up. I asked the group who was there with me who that player was. They told me in a degrading manner " oh, thats steph curry. He's a great shooter, but he won't last in the league because he's always injuring his ankles. " I told them, " say what you want, but he's one hell of a shooter" my damn iPhone died before I could take a pic

[@Obi_Haves]

Even Klay knows Steph is the God shooter. Good try RJ

[@stonedecatur6602]

What? Klay is 11th all time in three pointer made

[@HypocritesExposd]

@@stonedecatur6602 Klay knows his own value, but has openly admitted Curry is the best shooter of all time

[@415garcia]

Watching this now after the CP3 trade, I’m excited to watch the dubs with Steph, Klay, and CP3 on the court. Let’s go dubs!