What Happened to F-Zero?

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

The series is dead, but it at least died with the grace of an angel. You can't sling mud at the franchise. The worst you can say is that X's graphics aren't great or that GP Legend and Climax aren't the F-Zero titles people wanted. But *every* F-Zero game is master class, hardware pushing racing in their own respective rights. There is no mediocre or bad F-Zero. Hardly even a dated F-Zero.There's no lame practices attached to any entry that sullies the experience. Any compromises were negligible and made up for elsewhere in the name of excessive performance, content, and speed. Like WipEout, this is just a pristine series of wholesome games. The Blue Falcon sits in a hangar somewhere just glistening and that's a good takeaway from all this. ;)

[@NoStringsPrd]

Beautiful comment.

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

Thank you for making its death a little less sad. Hats off to you.

[@kostapoumpouridis2530]

We still got Fast RMX. It's fun but hard.

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

@Stormrage .....how is that conformist? That's how I feel.

[@Etrieh]

The music you picked was perfect....specially the ending....we need F zero...doesn't need a new mechanic or be innovative...we just need F Zero...we love this game. Let the cap stop running in smash...and finally put his foot where it matters. On the pedal.

[@brandon4622]

Me: Hey Miyamoto, can we get a new F-Zero for the Switch? Miyamoto: Sorry, if we can’t add anything new to the series we won’t make a new entry. But here’s a shamefully barebones Super Mario Party for your troubles.

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

This generations Mario Party was a waste of my money and I'm still upset about it. The best part is, no one likes it and they'll probably use its failure as a justification to push us back onto that horrible fucking cart everyone has to be on.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Miyamoto: I poop on Mario Party. F-Zero shall never be disrespected with such milking.

[@caioleite5579]

I liked Super Mario Party. The unique dices and Partner Party are great additions to the series. Plus, they got rid of the car and the minigames are fun enough. The only bad things about the game are the few boards and no proper online imo

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@caioleite5579 The car? 🚘

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

@@caioleite5579 I loved the idea of the dice if some weren't just mechanically Superior to others for no discernible reason. Bowser has a 50/50 of going like 8 spaces or losing 3 coins. That's insane! Look how they massacred my boy "Shy Guy"! 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 0. That's so sad.

[@Curtis.....]

I loved the line "Miyamoto asked, 'why F-zero? What do you want that we haven't done before?' But if you can't actually play that which has been done before, what does that matter?" Great video, man.

[@Curtis.....]

​@Nacho Libre Yeah I was watching Vinny Vinesauce and he pitched this idea of an open world F-zero game where captain falcon can explore a bladerunner-esque world (that was introduced in the GX cutscenes) and also leave the blue falcon and use his moves from smash, his gun, etc. I think its amazing

[@Curtis.....]

@Nacho Libre Exactly. I really couldn't put it better myself. This idea has the potential of being one of the greatest games of all time imo. I want that so bad I'd be fine if it had a Breath of the Wild development time and then some more on top of that. Maybe someday...

[@beoseotkun6087]

@Nacho Libre Maybe it would be reasonable by Nintendo's standards to demonstrate new forms of user input with the touch screen. We could have customized consoles that take gestures or combinations of presses so players can perform things like an exaggerated boost, have their machine make a guided path (like clairvoyance in skyrim), or change their vehicles balancing mid-race. The screen could also have a mod that is used for detecting nearby vehicles, there could be a mod that takes the mod of the last racer you spin into, or have sliders that adjust the sensitivity of input for things like drifting. many possibilities!

[@derfalschelennox365]

the problem with this argument is that it opens the door to just endless remakes of every game and no new games ever releasing since you can allways say "you cant play that which has been done before". same logic applies to the endless row of FIFA, Battlefield,CoD,etc. games out there. any yearly franchise really. and do you really want that to happen?

[@Martial_Autist]

@@derfalschelennox365 Better than what we have now, which is no F-zero since the GC days. You don't always need new gimmicks to keep a franchise going, and adding new gimmicks for the sake of adding them doesn't automatically make for a better game (at times it can even make a game worse or at least certain aspects of it). GX already just about reached the pinnacle of what an F-zero (or racing game in general) could and should be. And instead of seeing that nintendo decided to just let it die, right when it reached a level of epicness and refinement every franchise aspires to attain in it's respective genre. All they need to do is build on that foundation by going bigger, better, and longer in terms of the game's scope. More tracks, more racers/cars, more car parts, possibly a more expansive story mode that goes beyond [cutscene>gimmick race>cutscene] and actually lets you experience the F-zero world to some degree (maybe even semi-open world career mode), custom track builder, proper online multiplayer, etc. They shouldn't go full on fifa, but there should at least be one F-zero game per gen. Though honestly at this point I'd take a bare bones port over the complete absence of F-zero we currently have.

[@AlfredoPuente8]

Nintendo: We don't have any new ideas for a new game of F-Zero. Also Nintendo: Mario Kart Deluxe.

[@OGZelgadisGraywords]

Also Nintendo: "No game without something new, no paint over" ---- releases any pokemon sequel

[@cowboycarl121]

@@OGZelgadisGraywords any mario related game. also $60 price tag.

[@Ramonetable]

Yep, you're right, Nintendo is the coherence company. If it's mario (or any other super-seller), always a new game for the console, no matter how many times they repeat. If it's not, "we can't do something new with that" or shit like that; they don't give a shit about they're fans. It's a shame, but nintendo is just like any other company, a money maker.

[@cameronwofford8709]

I wish they could stop putting the old pokemon into the new region. I don't like learning new move lists for the same one. I also don't want a pokedex with 1 000 pages

[@cameronwofford8709]

no, I just don't want them in the new game at all. If they come from the previous game, that's fine. But not the pokemon from 3 games ago

[@UltimateTS64]

Literally HD graphics, high speed, and massive online play is all that's needed for a new F-Zero.

[@W1sSH]

I know this is 3 months old but I just wanna say this one word: Lag...

[@CarloNassar]

And unique track designs.

[@UltimateTS64]

@@CarloNassar or a track editor like F-Zero X had on the N64DD

[@Argon314]

Or even a track editor. But no. In Miyamoto’s mind, there has to be some lame gimmick baked into the game to justify making it. I think he just doesn’t like F-Zero, which is why he can’t think of any good “innovations” for it. It’s sad, because F-Zero is the only place I know of where you can find this unique style of racing experience. Traditional racing games just bore me to tears whenever I try them.

[@F-R-D-S]

@@Argon314 have you ever tried WipeOut on PlayStation?

[@Mernom]

Nintendo: 'We already made a game like this. Play that.' Also Nintendo: 'Backwards compatability? What's that?'

[@ViolentDetour]

Virtual Console? What's that?

[@ruekurei88]

You could play F-Zero GX on Wii consoles via backpat. There's a trick to do it on WIi U as well via homebrew. F-Zero X and various other F-Zero games were on Wii and WIi U via Virtual Console. Switch is probably the only major console in the past 20 years or so with no BC from them(well 20 years now, around 15 since GC).

[@UsingGorillaLogic]

I would say Nintendo has always done Snes and Nes compatibility.... okay and done N64 compatibility... servicably, but once you want something from the gamecube onward things get weird and they tend to not bother. The issue being most of the titles people want to replay are either the N64 games they usually skip, or Gamecube titles they never rerelease.

[@four-en-tee]

"Grr, i hate emulation"

[@four-en-tee]

​@@UsingGorillaLogic I swear, there's always some sort of catch when Nintendo gives us emulation for anything other than NES and SNES (obviously licenses are an issue, but other than that, there's really no good excuse for first party titles from Gamecube to not be on the Switch).

[@famicom89]

I've seen many of this kind of "recap" about f-zero, but this is by far the most comprehensive and well paced of them all

[@NoStringsPrd]

That means a lot, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

[@MasterZoda]

Unfortunately, there is a disconnect between Nintendo and their audience. Miyamoto, for all his talent, has one major blind spot: he sees games only through the lens of a game designer and not as a game player. What he's forgetting is that gamers want to see more of the world and content of F-Zero, not just new gameplay mechanics. Miyamoto is right when he says the series can't evolve past GX in terms of game design, but we F-Zero fans don't care--we just want to experience more of the fun and wild F-Zero universe. Anybody that hasn't seen Sean Malstrom's blog should look into it. He thoroughly explores the importance of content in games over everything else, even gameplay.

[@rolan5948]

ThePainTrain yh i honestly don’t see them topping the absolute ridiculousness of GX. The nail biting difficulty, the sense of speed. I love Nintendo but this is really one of their best games ever made and to top the original would take serious work. Knowing Nintendo today, they would severely cut the difficulty in turn ruining the entire reason for the game, racing, only for the hardcore

[@CarloNassar]

So people are ok with no new mechanics in F-Zero but were not ok with Mega Man not offering anything that's very new (besides the slide, charge shot, etc.)?

[@777Roxen]

Pretty much this. My main reason for wanting a new F-Zero game? I think Captain Falcon's neat and I want to see him do more stuff. That's pretty much it. I mean, he's a Bounty Hunter right? Why not make a game that's part racer and part character action game? Let Captain Falcon race AND fight. Let me do some good ol' F-Zero racing and then juggle bad guys like I'm Dante from Devil May Cry.

[@Argon314]

@@amuroray88 I think you might be right. He went out of his way to trash GX specifically, when it’s a phenomenal game. So good, that he himself admits he can’t figure out a way to top it.

[@Bootyhunter1971]

Just "remaster" GX, make the AX game unlockable, add in online multiplayer, bam, there you go Nintendo, you're welcome.

[@juleshaner2263]

imagine a VR Fzero at 144fps in todays quality

[@HylianMaster-ls2ps]

dont make me nut, that would be glorious

[@ZeroB4NG]

try Redout !!!

[@xTigerWise]

@@ZeroB4NG I 100%'d it on steam and, it's just too different, I still end up booting Dolphin to play GX. Every time they make a futuristic racing game, it feels slow and it's difficult/frustrating to corner

[@gamermapper]

I thought you've written 144p lol, you should say 150 because 144 is a popular number for shitty resolution omg

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

120 hz would be enough. That's what there is in the TV realm.

[@pseudotasuki]

I would love to see an F-Zero game where the course dips in and out of a planet's atmosphere, with the vehicle's handling characteristics changing along with the air density. Out in space it's all about thrust; acceleration vs turning. But inside the atmosphere you can have tight corners where aerodynamics trump raw power.

[@Canalbiruta]

Rob Speed holy shit, loved the idea. Someone show it to nintendo

[@pseudotasuki]

@@Canalbiruta Thanks, man! Maybe they'll hire me as a game designer.

[@Canalbiruta]

@@pseudotasuki just have hope

[@leandro3710]

Holly molly!! This idea is awesome!

[@kitcat3579]

So basically you sat there brainstorming for however long and came up with a great idea for f-zero ... And Nintendo's excuse is they couldn't think of anything , I love Nintendo's games but holy shit they are annoying sometimes

[@JeremyBX]

With Nintendo only focusing on their best selling titles, Smash Bros has basically become a retirement home for Nintendo Classics.

[@CaptainFALKEN]

Mario is even dead now. Odyssey... ugh

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

@@CaptainFALKEN What? Odyssey is really good.

[@godot_24]

@@CaptainFALKEN I don't understand what's wrong with Mario or Odyssey, maybe you just didnt like the game, but the series are really far from dead

[@maximsavage]

@@CaptainFALKEN Odyssey is a critically acclaimed game that was loved by the vast majority of people who laid hands on it. You might not have liked it, but that doesn't make Mario dead.

[@FrozenFenrir]

@@CaptainFALKEN the only dead thing here is your brain. mario? dead? LOL

[@thegreatergoo7842]

We pass the 30th anniversary and there's radio silence on Nintendo's end. Rest in peace, F-Zero

[@MarcLeoNyu]

As a 26 year-old person, today I have played F-Zero (F-Zero GX) for the very first time with a friend who has played the series for years..... Now I completely understand why other racing games fail at recreating the experience of F-Zero. It's totally unique, the incredible speed, the fast controls, the soundtracks.... it's really atractive. I'm not a fan of Nintendo, but I would buy a console just to play this. And I feel disappointed that Nintendo left this game series. SIGH* 99% of my friends who have a Nintendo console only play Smash Bross. It's not a bad game, but I just don't like fighting games. I get bored immediately. I bet many people would play an F-Zero game with online up to, 20-30 players?

[@starmanDNF]

I don't even see the risks of just giving us F-Zero fans something we want. A meticulously crafted product that might even interest some outsiders to the series. Stubborn old men too afraid to take a miniscule projected loss compared to the mario/zelda/smash big bucks they're constantly making hand over fist. And now, FE is wildly popular thanks to their other major income producer... the mobile market.

[@digitalunity]

This right here is why I don't get Nintendo's stance. Mans just said he'd buy a console for a game like F-Zero, that's $360.00 right there. A new F-Zero would print money! Yet here we are, not closing a sale.

[@iamyoung4eva21]

I love how you think but until Nintendo can get their online game play together there’s no why I’ll ever see f zero playing online with that many players.

[@minty6623]

ya'know, I feel like Smash Ultimate would be a more fun and better competitive game if it had depth and mechanical techniques. Making it be like the same level as like Smash Melee which is the greatest competitive successor which is still alive even almost 20 years later.

[@Overdrive-_-]

i hate racing games ut f zero is the only one i like(played it with nso and i loved it)

[@001shadowknight]

Not in seconds but in frames. That was my favorite sentence. In this whole video.

[@adamengelhart5159]

Going from stopped to 176 km/h in one frame, assuming the 60 Hz framerate at the start of the video, is almost exactly 300 g. *!!!*

[@Ghawblin]

@@adamengelhart5159 God damn this is why I love F-ZERO

[@kulrigalestout]

"Why F-Zero?" Because I saw a race at breakneck speeds around pipes which were for some reason hovering around inside an active volcano and that's entirely too awesome to not want to have right meow.

[@LonerChief]

Why F-Zero? Me:......Yes

[@danieldorn2927]

I agree with the cat

[@digitalunity]

The better question is "Why Not F-Zero?" If the only reason not to make a new one is "what would we change" that's a sign it would print money!

[@zerobyte802]

GX was so amazing because you can play casually and finish the game, but the controls are so tight there's always a better run to squeeze out... and then there're the advanced techniques like snaking and momentum boosting and that "fall off the track for just one frame" thing that can lead to such incredible feats of speed... There are some truly amazing runs on YT.

[@agamaz5650]

It is like Tetris

[@OneNidim]

Lmao casually finish the game? Bruh this game is hard

[@zerobyte802]

@@OneNidim “casual” means finish all the circuits on standard. It may take a few days playing the game to accomplish but hopefully you didn’t spend $50 expecting to beat it in one day and put it down. The hard and expert modes are definitely very very brutal. I think it took me a couple weeks off and on to beat the story mode Grand Prix chapter alone.

[@Nirual86]

"This is both Miyamotos greatest strength and weakness" couldn't have put it better myself. I can respect the man for wanting to push new ideas with as many games as possible, but at the same time sometimes you just need to iterate the same basic ideas with better hardware and lessons learned from the previous game. And if he doesn't want to make the game himself, that's fine. His overseeing on Metroid Prime worked fine, if not outright better than anything his own team could've come up with for the jump to 3D.

[@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106]

The Nintendo devs got really drunk one night and decided to play Russian roulette with their franchises and F-zero lost

[@exorias625]

lol well this level of humor is very dark

[@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106]

@@exorias625 my friend did his own version when I told that joke that was even darker

[@jeffsalazar6725]

LMAO!

[@betabee1221]

Nintendo: >Mario. *[click noise]* k u good >Legend of Zelda. *[click noise]* k u good too. >Kirby. *[Sakurai runs into the room and gives them a note and runs out]* *[Kirby gets skipped]* >Star Fox. *[tiny flag with "Bang!" written on it comes out]* >F Zero. *[Ded]*

[@lukehewko260]

Sure feels like they had 2 in the chamber because Metroid is gone too.

[@FalconGX]

This video made me tear up. F-Zero is my most beloved franchise. I played X and GX competitively (Falcon on fzerocentral.org) and wait since 2006 - 2008 for a new title. I don't understand why Miyamoto is so against a new entry. You do not need to create something new only to justify a new entry. Look at BF and Cod. What are they doing each entry. Still the same. A GX 2.0 would be amazing on Switch. More tracks, more drivers (Climax timeline), online mutliplayer, track editor, a better story mode (Like Climax?) and Boost Fire :-) Would that not be enough? I mean, the people cry for a new F-Zero so just bring them what they want.

[@Daisy-xo9cq]

I think it's a pride thing with Nintendo. They take pride in thinking outside of the box and creating games with purpose. I think that F Zero is coming back eventually though, it's like what was mentioned in the video, it wouldn't of worked with the Wii's gimmicks nor the Wii U's, yet they even did try to make one for the Wii U. Due to the switch feeling like a more standard platform and Nintendo moving away from the target of fairly casual game players with the switch, I would guess that F Zero is likely more now than ever before.

[@dantehernandez7839]

I'm with you brother, I think Nintendo is eventually going to have to set foot upon the land of remakes again (they remade windwaker in wiiu) because just coming up with new ways to see and play a game aren't everything, it's about what the story, display and interactions the game has, why do you think 8 bit games like shovel knight have become popular over the recent years? Graphics aren't everything! And nintendo better take note and do justice to this franchise, I just see so much potential nintendo hasn't used, it frustrates me!

[@johnrose879]

They won't make one though without something to add to it. CoD and BF are the same, yes, but they are also selling. Like the video said, F Zero saw a decline in sales with every release, despite trying to showcase something new with each title. In Nintendo's eyes, F Zero was NOT a successful franchise. At least not compared to their other IP. Unless they find a fit for a new system feature, gaming engine, or rendering technology or something that fits well into a F Zero game, I'd pretty much plan on not ever seeing another new F Zero again. Which is a shame, like most of the folks watching this video, I loved the franchise, and X and GX were a couple of my favorite games. I'm hoping for that new shiny technology, whatever it may be, that sparks the flame for F Zero once again. But until then, I'll be over here with my GameCube and component cables, because damn, GX can still rip your face off at 480p. I can only imagine this game at 1080p. *droooool*

[@XRavishX]

That's the thing with Nintendo. As described in the video, Nintendo doesn't iterate for the sake of iteration or just to improve one thing here or there like BF and CoD. Nintendo is the way it is, their games are as beloved as they are, because each game they make is something new. I agree with the sentiment that it's difficult to come up with something actually new for the game. Yes, there are small things that can make the current experience better such as higher resolutions and improved multiplayer, but those things aren't new in gaming, they're just new for F-Zero. Something different has to come along for Nintendo to think that F-Zero is the game to make. The way I see it, F-Zero probably won't get made fresh until VR is, if ever, mainstream, and we have full force-feedback chairs in every house. F-Zero would benefit from being a full-body experience that no other types of games would necessarily benefit from. One would play F-Zero for the same reason one rides roller coasters. Unfortunately, I don't really see that ever happening. So, in the meantime, I'll just play my copy of F-Zero, on top of my car, while someone does their best to mimic my movements as we both drive.

[@davidmcgill1000]

I'd love to see the decline in sales of Mario games when compared to F-Zero.

[@GoldRubyProduction]

10:20 Takaya Imamura was quoted in an article just yesterday saying that: "F-Zero isn't dead, it is a series that is hard to bring back without a grand idea." It's interesting to discover that this same sentiment hasn't changed within Nintendo since 2013. 🤔

[@Matanumi]

I don't think you'd need to do much to bring it back today. Just HD 60fps that shit with good track design and it'll sell

[@rockmanx8011]

@@Matanumi Nintendo is just hypocritical... I hate them.

[@Eichro]

They don't want to spell out directly that the games just didn't sell a lot.

[@broccolinyu911]

Miyamoto: *Doesn't want to make a new game without adding something new* Also Miyamoto: *milks the ever-living-hell out of Mario with constant remakes and re-uses of similar mechanics and engines*

[@therealsploge]

Kachu Don’t recall the last time a main Mario game was made. Plus the Mario series are not only best selling titles, but critically acclaimed titles and noted as some of the greatest games of all time. So they’re not wasting their time with Mario.

[@Eichro]

*stares intensely at Super Mario Galaxy 2 and every New Super Mario Bros. title following the first*

[@therealsploge]

Eichro Super Mario Galaxy 2 is excellent, I can agree with the NSMB games though, the DS one was the best

[@Eichro]

@@therealsploge I cannot debate the sheer quality of SMG2, one of my favorite games ever, but you can't deny that it's largely more of the same.

[@therealsploge]

Eichro very true. Although of course that does not prevent it from being a fun game

[@Lugmillord]

"We don't want to repackage games! We want to give the players new experiences! Like New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe or the other 50 rereleases of Wii U games on the Switch!"

[@gamermapper]

Apart from Mario, they have an excuse because the Wii u didn't sold well so they just ported everything. But the Wii u Mario is already a new super mario bros wii HD remaster with new levels, so...

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@gamermapper - Nice to see you make room for Nintendo's milking when it suits their purpose. Great job in vocally supporting the Disney of gaming companies. 👍.

[@gamermapper]

@@TexasHollowEarth it's not milking tho, Nintendo has a lot of mario games because that's their mascot, a lot of these games are totally different and can be divided into super mario, mario kart, mario sports and other series. Each series has the games not more often than one per year. And Nintendo has also link and pokemon which are even rarer, and also a lot of original game series that are even rarer, I don't see the milking in splatoon, smash, metroid, Pikmin etc

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@gamermapper - They're totally milking Zelda games, too. The new Pokemon games have even less content than older titles. Who keeps buying all these Animal Crossing games? Nintendo really hates gamers, that aren't children.

[@leandreturcotte5321]

@@TexasHollowEarth with the new animal crossing coming out, and everyone shiting their pants looking at it, i'm still confused as to why the fuck people even play these games

[@LiamRproductions]

This was excellent. Thank you for expressing many of the frustrations I've had for years with Nintendo's creative policies towards F-Zero.

[@NoStringsPrd]

That really means a lot, thank you!

[@wolfpacsyxx]

FZero GX still holds up in gameplay and graphics to this day, still the best futuristic racer I’ve ever played.

[@SwitchyWitch_]

F-Zero GX is fucking gorgeous. Like it looks so good and it plays wonderfully. I really wish it was ported to switch so I can see it even better.

[@michaelhulcy6680]

If you gotta good PC, download the dolphin emulator and game. Looks gorgeous and plays like a dream at even 720p, if you got the CPU and GPU horsepower. At 1440p though, woooh. Games of the PS2/GameCube/Xbox era stand the test of time better than 360 and PS3 games. The way games were crafted back then, even expanded to 4K from their native 480i image, they're gorgeous.

[@Zydra_Zy]

HMMMM WHO IS THIS I FOUND

[@SwitchyWitch_]

How did you get here, Where did you come from. Why did you even come here.

[@Zydra_Zy]

Oliver Craft youtube reccomendations Onviously they know I'm interested in nintendo shit now so they reccomend me this

[@Kashaku3]

It wouldnt work. You need analog triggers to play. Unless they used motion controls for the analog air brakes. It wouldnt work... Plus nintendo wont port game cube games that require or benefit from analog triggers.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

F-Zero will never die, it will remain within our hearts. Even if Nintendo doesn’t want to port the games which they really should. Smash is barely keeping F-Zero, Mother and Starfox alive.

[@custom-r]

Exactly how I feel. Unless it's not being referenced or used or talked about this much, a series like F-Zero is hardly dead in that sense.

[@star_reshiram]

Miyamoto is really pushing for Star Fox to revived, he's already given Ubisoft a green light to experiment with it (although Starlink failed because of the toy gimmick despite being a beautiful and immersive game otherwise), and he's reportedly looking for more developers to give it a new breath of life. I just wish he'd did the same with F-Zero and Mother because just seeing Cap and Ness in Smash isn't enough.

[@MetalJody1990]

Miyamoto has no ideas for a new F-Zero? It's been so long since the last F-Zero that there doesn't have to be any innovation with a new one. If anything, start with the superior gameplay and music style of X and combine them with the modern graphics of today. Make over-the-top tracks. Make brutally hard tracks inspired by the mod F-Zero: The Revenge. Throw in a massive track editor and vehicle customization. Add in passive abilities (similar to Redout), not just boost power. Of course, a no-brainer - online mp. Create a story mode that's not cheesy (GX was super cheesy) and gives life to all the F-Zero characters. C'mon, Nintendo. I'm sick of this "we dunno what direction to go in" excuse. We're now at the point where a simple HD remaster of GX would be considered good enough for most people... but you don't have to do just that, because the fans have already given you enough ideas to make an adequate sequel. That's all I'm saying. To the maker of this video, you did a great job. Have a sub!

[@Taijifufu]

"What would you like to see in a sequel?" I would just like *it.* Just F-Zero. I want F-Zero, because I can't play it now. Why isn't there a rerelease with 32 online multiplayer???

[@W1sSH]

Could you imagine the lag with Nintendo Online?

[@jargon9173]

The youtube gods have placed a gem into my lap, through their "recommended videos" algorithm. Boy am I glad i stumbled across this HIGH quality documentary on F-Zero's history. The pacing, the style, everything is presented so well. The points and reasons, research and work put into this. Just wow. As a huge F-Zero fan (and F-Zero GX being one of my top 3 favorite games of all time) I am so glad I found this. SO much makes sense now. THANK YOU FOR THIS GIFT TO HUMANITY

[@DanTheManCalter]

It's so frustrating. After close to 20 years without a console entry, you dont need the fresh innovation. Modern visuals, modern engine, same great blindingly fast gameplay. That's all you need! Just freshen it up for the current generation, THEN you can focus on innovation.

[@TheDestroyerComics]

What bugs me though is that Twilight Princess, literally mentioned in this video as a game that also underperformed, got this shiny new coat of paint on the WiiU, which was already a failing console at the time. But yet we can't get a port of GX with the AX tracks some improved graphics and MAYBE some new content and online. I just want something Nintendo please.

[@paulmoore5392]

That’s simple, because the Zelda franchise as a whole makes WAY more money than F Zero ever has. They can trust that a Zelda remaster will sell tons more than F Zero. An underselling Zelda game is a great selling F Zero game.

[@PSWii360onBaSS]

I come from the future to tell you that, its being rereleased again for another 60 fucking dollars.

[@acolddarkgentlebruh8205]

@@PSWii360onBaSS Seriously? Fuck Nintendo, they deserve getting their games emulated.

[@links-gut-versifftergrunme1809]

But... you had all of the AX tracks in the original game as an unlockable GP... why would you need to add them?

[@four-en-tee]

@@acolddarkgentlebruh8205 You say that like its wrong to emulate a 20 year old game, lol. Its the next best thing to a game going open source, and it doesn't hurt them financially whatsoever since Nintendo isn't selling any new copies of the game. Hell, i still probably wouldn't buy it until i've tried it out first on an emulator since that option is available to me. I've never played GX before, so I would need to see if the game is for me or not.

[@scottmeyer5991]

"What about ?" "Ya, but it aint F-ZERO"

[@custom-r]

Yeah, F-Zero just set the bar too high for me.

[@digitalunity]

@@custom-r I find myself constantly wanting faster and faster racing games, but the racing games get slower and slower! even 200cc MK8DX feels like a brisk jog.

[@custom-r]

@@digitalunity And even worse. Every offering touted as "Can cure the F-Zero itch" is generic racer after another. Yeah some of these other racers are too slow or not up to snuff after F-Zero GX especially.

[@mitchlucker9150]

@@digitalunity Maybe you already know it, there's a game called 'Distance' on steam. It's the most f-zero like game for me gameplaywise, it's not really as fast as GX of course but you need to imput and react really fast.

Looking like F-Zero doesn't make it F-Zero.

[@zarphus8087]

"Don't Blink and Drive" if that sentence doesnt apply, its not F-Zero. i apply that question every time someone tells me about an f-zero 'spiritual successor'. so far all ive found is Wipeout clones, not F-Zero.

[@Ghorda9]

try redout, that sentence applies to that as much as it does to f zero, it's a successor to both wipeout and f zero.

[@ninjacat230]

I'll blink as much as I damn well please

[@BenjiMordino]

I think that brutal difficulty is also one factor holding F'Zero back from true blockbuster status. I´d hate them to dumb it down, but as it stands it has niche appeal. How many of us can say we actually beat F'Zero GX if we even bought it, I know I didn´t beat it. That niche appeal will forever limit the series and Nintendo´s desire to make new iterations.

[@Ghorda9]

the grand prix tracks weren't that hard on standard or expert, you don't really need to beat a game to enjoy it.

[@faheemjerseyxs4222]

Thank goodness I beat gx, and the story difficulty isn't that hard if you don't put pressure on yourself

[@superjoebros64]

Damn, this hurts. I only recently played my first F-Zero game not too long ago, and just as you mentioned, it's hard to find these older games or they cost too much. I always wondered why we haven't seen a new F-Zero game and I think you nailed the reasoning for it. Thank you for this super interesting and well put video!

[@Venom3254]

I also want to mention Mario Kart Double Dash came out the same year as GX which also caused it to lose on potential sales. The Gamecube was also one of the least selling consoles of that gen, so that's probably another reason why it didn't sell well, along with the lack of social media to help out in advertising (I also think advertising was weak on GX as well).

[@Garbagehead5]

Kirby Air Ride was 2003 as well.

[@anima94]

@@Garbagehead5 unironicly the best kirby game

[@Venom3254]

@@Garbagehead5 Why would you look at that, 2 racing games that had to compete against Mario kart Double Dash. I'm curious to know about the sales from Kirby Air Ride.

[@ayotundealele1465]

Very good points! Double Dash took a lot of attention away from GX it would have otherwise garnered.

[@kujiko88]

I remember seeing the commercial on TV once. My poor grandma couldn't understand a word I was saying at the time due to how excited I was. She still laughs about it today.

[@ForceMaximus84]

Every time there’s a Direct, I always hope there will be an announcement of a new F-Zero game or at least a remaster of an older game, and always end up disappointed. Please bring it back, Nintendo!

[@vin3084]

There have been some rumors of a ton of gc remakes this year. Maybe we could a gx remake.

[@agamaz5650]

@@vin3084 where

[@vin3084]

@@agamaz5650 I just looked again and I guess I mistook "Mario sunshine and other games" as a bunch of GameCube games but alas they ment more Mario games. The article in question www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/03/nintendo_to_remaster_most_of_super_mariors_35-year_catalogue_for_switch_in_2020_new_report_says

[@razorvolare]

F-Zero pushed the SNES to limit by pseudo 3D F-Zero X pushed the N64 to limit with perfect framerate in 3D F-Zero GX pushed the Gamecube and Arcades machines to limits with everything set nearly to max F-Zero Climax pushed the GBA to limit by pseudo 3D with it's incredible racing speed F-Zero Switch.... 3 times the amount of tracks what GX offered in game-play with even wildest & hardest tracks ever made for gods to race on, perfect frame rate, track editor, machine & emblem creator, 30 player online races WITH PERFECT INTERNET CONNECTION TO SERVERS, and VR Support that will push Nintendo to it's limit....packaged with a wearable Captain Falcon Helmet and high-quality F-Zero Machine Steering Wheel controller like most racing games have, none of that Wii Wheel shit.

[@aflhabalafhabab]

Razor Volare And upgrading vehicles for better stats, don’t forget upgrading vehicles for better stats!

[@elijahr4848]

Is the end of the Switch part ironic?

[@tiarabite]

LOL perfect online on a game like f-zero where you move so fast? Keep dreaming.

[@Sh-hg8kf]

@@tiarabite especially considering the Switch's terrible wifi card

[@rayminishi689]

@@Sh-hg8kf Lmao, the Switch can connect to 5ghz networks. 3x the 2.4ghz speed per 5-10ft radius at best. People have BAD INTERNET PLANS.

[@TheFrostyLemon]

Thank you for making this. It at least makes me happy to know there are other people out there who love this franchise.

[@lavawolf666]

miyamoto and his obsetion with gaming interface, that worked on the last starfox zero, yeah . we just want a F zero no gimmics, if you don't want to make the same game well... a remake

[@darkridearts]

lavawolf666 imagine if Platinum had been able to do whatever they wanted with Star Fox. Guaranteed it would have been freaking amazing

[@ayar2]

it didnt work for GX in its time, either, I remember I was the only one talking or playing that game, every other friend of mine that played videogames was only talking about mario sunshine, metroid prime or smash bros melee. a very limited core audience its whats holding F-Zero back.

[@paulakroy2635]

Carsten false

[@97Multiphantom]

@@ayar2 so what they need to do is put their full might into marketing it. Everyone knows Captain Falcon from Smash; just lean into that.

[@AlfredoPuente8]

Miyamoto ruined just by himself Star Fox and Paper Mario.

[@zylaaeria2627]

I loved games like this. Makes me sad that the super-fast futuristic racer genre itself is effectively dead. A new successful F-Zero game would easily have the potential to singlehandedly re-ignite interest in this genre.

[@RodrigoMera]

I think that genre benefits greatly from graphics and Nintendo has never been a great fan of the graphics race mentality.

[@louisho2522]

Since the focus of F-Zero is speed, wouldn't the Switch's precision vibration motors help with feedback in some way? Maybe a certain vibration could aid the player in piloting around the track. Haptic feedback would really help with that twitchy sense of urgency. That's the first "innovation" that jumps out at me.

[@NovaFrederick]

Thank goodness KZbin recommended me this video. Amazing work my dude!

[@yostoyou]

The title screen for F-Zero GX send chills down my spine. I usually don't get pumped up by a simple title screen like that, but having that excellent gameplay attached to it and the sweet soundtrack makes it freaking orgasmic. We certainly need a new one with all of the new hardware advancements. They seem to have realized the new potentials with their other franchises, but not F-Zero which would benefit greatly from the new hardware.

[@yostoyou]

@@angrykermit3192 It's called embellishment, ya fuckin dunce

[@RedFormanOG]

Just an hd remake of gx/ax would be enough. Especially seing as I never saw one damn ax machine here in England lol

[@TexasHollowEarth]

They barely made any. AX can be played on the Dolphin emu. Great YT profile 👍.

[@GamEntertain]

I managed to find one in north wales. I nearly had a heart attack when i did.

[@AntiHydra747]

Same in America

[@Bootyhunter1971]

Exactly, remaster GX, make AX content unlockable by beating GX, add online Multiplayer. Bam, major seller there.

[@Bootyhunter1971]

Ps, hack a wii, and you can play F zero Ax, Mariokart gp1 and 2 on it. Very cool!

[@samvimes9510]

Jesus christ, *that's* their excuse? _"Oh yeah we know people want an F-Zero but we can't think of anything to do with it so no F-Zero for you. Now here's a couple halfassed Mario Kart tracks to remind you that you'll never get another F-Zero."_ Just remaster GX, you lazy clods. That's literally all you have to do, you don't need to take it a new direction. Maybe add a new track if you're feeling extra ambitious. Hell, you don't even have to remaster it, just slap a Gamecube emulator on the Switch and do a straight port, it's still a beautiful looking game. Besides, by this point the people who played F-Zero are grown up. There's an entirely new generation of kids out there who have never played F-Zero and likely don't even know what it is. There aren't even any racers on the market right now that are like F-Zero, so it would be like an entirely new concept to them. Miyamoto can be brilliant, but he can also be incredibly dense at times. He frustrates me to no end.

[@colorful.78]

I can only wish for a new F-Zero... It my family's stubbornness to upgrade their game consoles that introduced me to F-Zero. I was playing F-Zero X in like 2008 and 2009. They don't need to add anything, I would have fun racing even with old controls!

[@darthvaderdylan]

nintendo remaster? loool not likely.

[@blissfu_lee8522]

You're right! I played an F-zero game today and I've been hooked.

[@UltimateFeudEnterprise]

F zero GX looks absolutely smashing for its time, when was it made 2003? My God they need to port it over

[@MrMarinus18]

Remastering is not so simple. I don't know if porting GX to the Switch is really possible. They likely would have to remake it from scratch. For a legendary game like Mario 64 remaking it from scratch to sell their new handheld the DS is worth it. But GX was never a big time seller so why would they go through the effort?

[@MtnSmithy]

This is why I'm a little afraid of a new F-Zero, if Nintendo did make one. They'd want to "innovate" or change it for innovation's sake and even if that makes it a good game in its own right, it probably wouldn't be the F-Zero that I know and love. What do I want new for F-Zero that hasn't been done before? ...Nothing. After over a decade, I just want my fix!

[@kujiko88]

This. This is exactly what my viewpoint is. X was fantastic, GX upped on X in every way (even if I prefer the ost for X), the first 2 games were brilliant, the GBA games were excellent. Nintendo has a winning formula here, and with the death of Wipeout, F-Zero would reign king of it's genre. Redout wouldn't be able to compete with F-Zero's pedigree and history, despite it's quality as a game and it's awesome sense of speed. Nintendo needs to just do what nintendo does. Make the game with all the love and care they put into all their first-party games and they'll have a success. It might be a cult success, but a cult success can grow. Look at Ico and the Shadow of Colossus games. Or Drakengard. A new F-Zero would only do good for Nintendo, and show their fans that they can still make a blisteringly fast racing game with no compromises.

[@danielthompson8451]

@@kujiko88 I'd call Redout more of a Wipeout successor than an F-Zero one, albeit one with some really nice track design. It's definitely a mile closer to what I'm looking for than the Fast series so far.

[@MFIBCN]

Almost all the OST of GX was good, but yes, certain pieces were... well... ugh, I prefer the GP Legend "Fire Field" over the GX version.

[@soarel325]

Exactly!!

[@DeToxCommunity]

@@danielthompson8451 Redout tickles my brain in a different way than F-Zero does, but I love both games. Redout is more methodical while still being high octane, and F-Zero is more reactionary. If a new F-Zero came out, I'd probably still play Redout alongside it.

[@Crocodile7104]

Nintendo needs to understand that the only thing that needs to be new in their sequels are the levels and the story. And the only thing that they need to do with the gameplay is make it tighter and better. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros and their other franchises have always been the same but bigger and better with each entry and thats okay. Starfox zero proved that philosophy they have about needing innovations with the gameplay is detrimental. Great video btw.

[@chrismdb5686]

I disagree about Mario and even more about Smash, each entry in both series is very different from both the former and the latter in the same series. Pokémon has always been a fairly lazy copy and paste job with no effort put into the game aside from composing new music and making new sprites though (mostly because Gamefreak is beyond incompetent). The innovation requirement is fantastic in some cases (look at any of the Mario games, 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy as fantastic examples), and completely unnecessary in others (Star Fox Zero - although it was doomed from the start considering there's only ever been one decent game in the series).

[@Crocodile7104]

@@chrismdb5686 i was actually talking about the core gameplay of those games not the way these entries play.

[@chrismdb5686]

@@Crocodile7104 I suppose if you intend to say that since all Mario games are platformers and are relatively similar then you're right, I was referring to how each iteration consistently builds on what the past entries have but also adds in completely new mechanics. Take Fludd for instance in Sunshine, makes the game completely unique in the world of 3D platformers, and while it is similar to other Mario titles it's impossible to ever confuse it with another in the series.

[@megasoniczxx]

@@chrismdb5686 You're right about mario but smash really hasn't changed a whole lot since melee if you really take a step back and look (if anything, on a mechanical level i'd say they only spent two games degrading it but I know that's not a popular opinion), they've iterated on the gameplay sure but it hasn't been anything game changing or something that flips the series on its head like they use as an excuse for why F-zero isn't getting a new game yet.

[@chrismdb5686]

@@megasoniczxx I'd say Brawl was a massive game changer and definitely different from Melee, Smash 4 was a huge game changer from Brawl, and Ultimate was the same to Smash 4, none of them play remotely the same (unless you want to pull the "they're all fighting games/platform brawlers/party games"). There's also a difference between making a fighting game and making a platformer, RPG, etc., to where fighting games don't need a new gimmick or other innovation to be fresh and game changing. Look at Tekken Tag 2 and Tekken 7 for example, the same basic gameplay is there but the addition of the rage mechanic and new characters on the roster makes it unmistakably different from its predecessors (for good and bad).

[@trwijbenga]

“Vehicles that corner like a greased pig on stilts”. You had me laughing out loud there

[@nickk3077]

Something I don't understand is that they want to deviate each game from each other and yet they make at least half-a-dozen New Super Mario Bros games that are basically the same.

[@Leo-pw3kf]

Super Mario Odyssey is completely different from Super Mario 3D World which is completely different from New Super Mario Bros... The list goes on. The "all Mario games are the same" meme is just false.

[@MrMarinus18]

Because those games sell. Despite all the complains all of the NSMB games were in the top 10 best selling games of their consoles.

[@innosam123]

Nick K They stopped being made regularly last generation. Deluxe is just that- a remaster. Also, they were money printing machines for a short period of time.

[@josephvickers167]

It bothers me that Miyamoto doesn't want to make a new F-Zero because they "can't do anything new" with it, while they still pump out Mario games every couple years. Don't get me wrong, I like Mario, but when you can just skip titles and feel like you have no reason to play them because the newer one is just like it, you have no excuse not to make a new entry in a series that hasn't had a game in 15 1/2 years.

[@StriderZessei]

Exactly. It's not like trying to force new mechanics on to Star Fox Zero made it better.

[@GiordanDiodato]

with Mario, you can do some crazy ideas. But you can only do so much in a racing game series. Just look at Need for Speed.

[@EnderouSama]

Giordan Diodato well need for speed is one thing. And f-zero is another. I personally don't believe such a comparison is exactly fair to f-zero. The easy to learn, but hard to master gameplay is another conversation, but the fact that f-zero has such potential an hd rerelease wouldn't do it justice. I think i'm on nintendo's side here. Until you can find something brand new and amazing then there's no reason to really try and push out newer games.

[@TonytheCapeGuy]

Yet people still buy Mario games...

[@Daniel-xy1vk]

with mario its incredibly different from title to title.

[@ysink]

You have officially won the "Amazing first impression award"

[@Hiroshimoh]

i feel so notaligic watching this video. I will never forget how i played f-zero x as a kid, pressed myself in the seat while my mind was going " okay...okay...OKKKAYYYYY FAAAASTER". Very nice video Sir. Thank you for the memory flashback ;)

[@ElJags]

F-zero GX was the one game that made me reach my top level of gaming , when i beat hardcore mode with my +76 hours put on customizing my personal machine that was just barely good enough to take me to 1st place in that difficulty, along with the unlimited times i re-tried to perfect every turn inch by inch, screaming to the top of my lungs to give me that extra will power as my machine was about to explode and reach the finish line at fucking light speeds my young mind couldnt even comprehend... The good times...

[@pokitobounto]

You can play on dolphin...

[@truecrisis8641]

KZbin graced me by recommending me with this video. Everything about it is done with such well placed effort. Subscribing and binging your videos later today, and I’ll be sticking around from now on.

[@Hatchet2k4]

Came to post pretty much this exact same thing. Loved all the historical context and quotes, very well researched points, and you could feel the love and effort put into this. Another subscriber here!

[@emishimaru-sama6449]

KZbin has finally done something good: *Recommend a good video.* [I also thought about the Idea of online gameplay for F-Zero GX. Imagine 30 players killing each others, so that In the end the results were... who knows, from 5 to 15 players surviving the calamity? >:DDD]

[@MFIBCN]

Same here, I subscribed to the channel after this video QwQ

[@BronyumHexofloride]

F-Zero: Battle Royale

[@emishimaru-sama6449]

@@BronyumHexofloride Then It would stop being a racing match Dx [And more like a Mario Kart In one of those battle modes >.>]

[@faheemjerseyxs4222]

Dammit! KZbin finally got something right for the first time

[@JOOOP98]

The only old nintendo series with no bad game imo. I miss it dearly.

[@gwonk8722]

wait until nintendo finally makes a new one

[@Akazu69]

"I won't sit through the entire video" I was wrong. Great video! You really know how to keep the viewers interested at all times :D

[@morganblackpowder1724]

saaaame :D

[@libernox5376]

First video I've seen of yours, but what a god damn masterpiece. I actually started to get teary eyed toward the end when I heard that glorious title screen theme from the first game. Logical, thoughtful, not pandering or blinded by nostalgia but genuinely heartfelt. What a damn fine essay. Guess I'll go run through the circuits on my 3DS for the nth time.

[@willalba7083]

This just popped into my feed and I decided to watch since I was not familiar with F-Zero. Watched the whole thing, great writing, voicing and video. Keep it up! Subbed.

[@Delly_bean]

-Remaster GX for Switch -Add back the Course Creator from 64DD version -Add Online Multiplayer -Bring back Death Race gamemode boom, new F-Zero game Miyamoto. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[@electropolitan4386]

Great video man. I really appreciate that you didn't classify the Fast series as an "F-Zero Successor" as many people do. The overall mentality of Nintendo has changed since the Wii / Wii U era as shown by the changes in Zelda and Smash, they are trying to cater to a more mature audience, and F-Zero fits the bill. I find it very unlikely that Nintendo will develop the next F-Zero, however. Which is not a bad thing, Miyamoto has destroyed Paper Mario with his insistence on Gameplay features, as you mentioned, they would've had to dumb down F-Zero for motion controls. I'd much prefer no game over a bad game, poor Star Fox. I imagine Shin'en or Retro to develop the next entry. I do worry a bit, as the Switch does not have the best hardware, but both these companies can push the console to the limit.

[@NoStringsPrd]

Thanks mate! I do like Fast Neo, but it's definitely a completely different game. The announcer was a very on-the-nose reference (a very welcome one though, he was fantastic!), but gameplay is core, and Fast plays completely differently. Still, as you say, Shin'en has made some excellent-looking games for Nintendo hardware, they absolutely could make a decent F-Zero, they're clearly fans. Retro's a good call, definitely interested to see what they're working on!

[@davidficca8963]

I want a fast-zero Nintendo ehh?

[@electropolitan4386]

@@fromization1 There are more advanced mechanics within the new Smash, the overall speed of the game is way faster, and those character reveal trailers have been hella brutal. As for Zelda, Skyward Sword had some crazy hand-holding, especially so when compared to BOTW.

[@pesky2119]

Motion controls aren't half bad

[@electropolitan4386]

@@pesky2119 They aren't bad, but F-Zero is so lightning fast that is requires insane precision. I'm picturing a world where instead of a Star Fox Zero, we got an F-Zero Zero. Even if motion controls weren't the only option, the game would have to be slowed down or widened to compensate for players using motion controls.

[@Tashiro64]

They don't know what new to add to F-Zero ? Each game needs to have something new/unique ? And that's why there is no new F-Zero game ? So why do we have 50 New Super Mario games that are all the same freaking thing ?... after ~15 years.. I think people don't care if there is nothing new... I mean.. make something with 36 new races with better graphics and awesome music and physics is all we want .. !! Track editor, online multiplayer, etc. ! You have planty of possibilities nintendo ! AWESOME video btw ! great job !

[@blaynegreiner9365]

I have long since thought that this guy has some personal grudge against the F Zero franchise. He only gives lazy excuses as to why there isn't another one. Even someone with half a functioning brain could see all you would need to do is give it the same treatment as any other modern racing title. Basically all the things you listed above.

[@Nuggette]

​@@blaynegreiner9365 well here's the deal, the games never really sold that well. I looked around for some sale figures (tho I didn't do too much of an in depth analysis, so correct me if I'm wrong) but literally every single other franchize Nintendo made keept outperforming F-Zero. On top of that remakes and VC releases tend to get fraction of the original sales, so even if we are generous I can't see GX remake/re-release selling well and thus why should Nintendo bother? Don't get me wrong I like F-Zero, but Nintendo is a business and business needs to make money to be successful and F-Zero doesn't make enough money.

[@blaynegreiner9365]

@@Nuggette What I said has nothing to do with sales figures. It has to do with what he has said about the franchise.

[@Nuggette]

@@blaynegreiner9365 yeah and I told you why he keeps making those lazy excuses. If we were to trust him then yeah there is nothing here that can be done that wasn't done before. Regardless why would he hold grudge against F-Zero? At worst people keep pestering him about releasing a new one. If anything Miyamoto would hold personal grudge against Star Fox, a game frenchize he himself managed to ruin, by sabotaging the studio working on Star Fox 2 ensuring that every Star Fox will be basically just the snes game and making Rare turn their Dino Planet game into Star Fox Adventures. tl;dr it seems more likely that the excuses are made because of money and it's much more likely that Miyamoto hold a grudge against Star Fox rather than F-Zero a frenchize that he doesn't seem to care about.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Why does no one mention all the Zelda series-milking? I'm sick of Zelda games, too.

[@Supern0va64]

F-Zero GX will always have a special place in my heart as the most insane and crushingly difficult racing game I’ve played. Always happy to see people still making videos about the series, fantastic video.

[@lymonalphablobcarlson2549]

I just played F-0 GX on my dad's game cube for the first time on the last day of 2020 it was amazing and i really like that a lot of other people enjoyed this game too

[@BlakjakTheGamer]

I attempted a couple years ago to build a F-Zero clone with the Unity Engine but I just could not get the controls right and I could not figure out a way to make tube shaped tracks that you're magnetically stuck to when upside down. I still have the project on my PC in case I ever decide to try again but I don't see it happening. I would love a switch f-zero. I put off getting a switch all this time because there aren't many games I want but an f-zero title would push me to it.

[@custom-r]

I feel the very same.

[@choo_choo_]

Wish YT wasn't shit so I could actually tag you so you can see this, but...Rotate the world instead of the player. Pretty sure that's how they did it in Psychonauts. It's not the same thing, but similar mechanics. Or a better solution; you could have a mesh at the bottom of your vehicle, that points the gravity towards the normal of the mesh. So when you go around the tube, as the vehicle tilts, it's pulled towards the normal, and therefore the center of the tube.

[@exorias625]

keep at it bro... it's heroes like you that saves retro gamers

[@vulduv]

im pretty sure in fzero x and gx/ax. the tubes where just a spline. (a line going between two or more points) where for gravity it just calculated the shortest straight line to the spline, and the angle of that line is set to be the gravity for your vehicle. thus you always get pulled towards the cylinder or into the walls of a tube. and for collisions it simply checks if that line is shorter or longer than the radius of the cylinder/tube.

[@matthewconley7568]

This is one of the best documentaries I have seen in a long while. I absolutely loved it.

[@MFIBCN]

"And overly responsive controls that means every mistake is your fault" THAT's why I loved playing GX a lot when I was a teen.

[@TheNiceZombie]

Your agruments are really valid and it's a shame that we are not even allowed to enjoy the old. F-Zero Gives me gossbumps and I missed out completely on it :

[@SilverGreyscale]

If we can't get a new F-Zero Nintendo... Make a bloody Collection, a Definitive edition, if you will, of all released and unreleased games. I mean Castlevania is pretty much dead, but they still gave us the series highlights (Rondo and Symphony) ported to a new console, so if you can't make a def edition with piffed up graphics, at least give us the complete GX experience... WITH AX data!

[@custom-r]

That definitely sounds like a Day One if it is on Switch.

[@coastersplus]

@ It's pretty typical for fighting game sequels to play somewhat similarly and have a lot of the same characters. It's not typical to have a complete story mode in one, or a full-blown RPG in another. But keep insisting there's nothing innovative!

[@BmanNintendo]

Even Contra is dead. But it probably wouldn't hold up well in today's modern day of gaming.

[@gameman250]

Also Paper Mario, but that's a different case.

[@godli6063]

LE REDDIT COMMANDER *And with your second and third sentence your Comment is invalid* Oh you were so close but yet so far away.

[@Kanyon85]

After I learned about Capt Falcon from Smash 64, I've always wanted an F-Zero game where they include some world building, playing as an actual bounty hunter. Keep the racing on the wild courses above the city, and have the bounty hunter, open world aspect on the city below, doing all sorts of missions. Want to race? Take the Falcon Flyer up join a race.

[@WGSen]

"See you, Space Falcon"

[@shadowwolf1762]

That sounds like a very cool idea.

[@Porygon2ning]

At last, KZbin FINALLY recommends me a good video to watch! A good recap and timeline of the F-Zero franchise. It was amazing, comprehensive, and well-constructed! You are earned a subscriber in me! I agree with the points you give in your video! One thing I had in mind is that a future F-Zero game can do is perhaps bring old tracks from previous games kind of how Mario Kart DS began with the Retro Grand Prix by bring back old tracks along with their music. In particular, it would be great to see how SNES courses would be revamped if Nintendo went with this.

[@sigg7776]

Extremely well-made video! Makes me want a new F-Zero game even more though.

[@torifin755]

the saddest part about this is that not only did thye refuse to remaster GX on the switch ***which ould be epic*** but they also refused to make a massive online F-Zero that would work like Splatoon does, Nintendo sees what companies do when their another companies title loses availability when it was atually good and say "what the fuck kind of person does that?" F-Zero doesnt need to evolve. it needs to become bigger, not in scale in Playability and Replayability

[@digitalunity]

The fact that Miyamoto doesn't know what to add means that F-Zero GX must have been perfect. Other companies would then bleed this dry with release after release, each one functionally identical but with new maps and a new story. This game could be for Nintendo what Call of Duty is for Treyarch. The ultimate Cash Cow. The Holy Grail. It needs no introduction, it needs no change. Each new game for each new generation only needs a graphical upgrade, a balance tweak, a bugfix, and a new set of maps.

[@GANTZ100pts]

I wouldn't care if they just made it just like GX but with new tracks. I just want to play a new F-zero game.

[@pistachiodisguisey911]

"what new could we do with F-Zero?" *makes like 5 new super mario bros games

[@thewatcher8573]

So F-zero GX is a perfect game, not a bad problem to have.

[@c.c.s.1102]

It's important to note the influence of American movies and comic books on the development of F-Zero because games like it are perceived to be uniquely Japanese. The reality is that a truly Japanese game could be nothing like F-Zero. Video games exist only in an intercultural space.

[@NarokathCrimzonAE]

This is easily one of my favorite videos of 2018 and definitely one of the best I've seen regarding Nintendo and F-Zero. Thank you so much for making this. I love F-Zero to death and will always hope for a new one.

[@NoStringsPrd]

Wow, thank you, I'm very glad you enjoyed it! I never expect, but I always hope for a new fzero every Direct

[@Batistadx4]

Your video was just posted on a popular reddit subreddit, r/games, and boy oh boy the amount of people commenting the same thing you said because they didn't watch that video is staggering. Anyways, I want to say thank you for this video. I was lucky and downloaded a rom of F-Zero GX before Nintendo came down hard on rom sites, and it completely changed my view on the series. F-Zero GX is a game unparalleled. Its visual quality is astounding, especially for a Gamecube game. The gameplay is the most fun and challenging I've ever experienced in a racing game, and Mario Kart isn't comparable. There's a sense of speed, challenge, you're not just playing grand prix tourneys to unlock every racer, you're actively challenging yourself to complete these insane tasks of speed. One big part of FZGX that stands out to me is how a lot of the actual race-tracks are more like single-obstacle obstacle courses, as evidenced by their names. I think that's by far the weakest part of the game, aside from the fucking atrocious FMVs that are included. It's not a bad aspect on its own, not at all, it's great for a single-player experience. You're tasked with figuring out what vehicle is best for each GP, for each track, because every track is wildly different in its challenge. The first few tracks are simple and you can easily get through them with a non-garbage vehicle, but as you go through the GPs, it becomes harder and harder to even place in the top 15. I spent at least a week just trying to find a vehicle that could beat the last GP, and I still never got around to finding one that I could succeed with. An easy way to improve the game would be to take the Mario kart approach of creating a great setting for the course first. There aren't really big setpieces that fit specific courses, the most notable is the first track in Mario Kart 8, the giant 8, and the giant cannon in the DK Mountain track from Double Dash, but otherwise every game has Circuits for specific characters. every game has a variation of Bowser's Castle, every game has a variation of Rainbow Road. Meanwhile, the challenges presented in the GX tracks are pretty much the only thing that make the separate tracks stand out, settings are re-used, music tracks are re-used, it's like what Mario Kart SNES did, and it's a bit outdated. If they really put effort in, there could be some AMAZING tracks in the game that transcend their challenge and become iconic for the series, just like Rainbow Road. Each Rainbow Road built off of eachother in presentation, from a simple flat track, to a giant wide looping track with a bunch of floating rainbow objects, to one with a GIANT warp pipe, to one with a fucking loop-de-loop in a DS game, on and on. I think the first big step besides actual 30-human races is making tracks, instead of obstacle courses, because a good obstacle course you may come back to to test your best time on now and then, but good tracks you find yourself playing again and again. But I digress. F-Zero is not like any other game, and people that are just parroting what you mentioned in the video (Miyamoto going on and on about "we don't know what we could do with a new iteration", the anime crossover flopping even though the final scene of the anime alone now has a cult following, "people don't know or care about F-zero" even though that's a blatant fucking lie and Captain Falcon alone is proof of that, as well as the constant references to the series) have no clue just how impactful a new F-Zero could be in the gaming scene today. Imagine an actual competitive racer. Mario Kart is fun, but as you said, it's a party game first. You play it just to goof around with friends, have a good time, and a relatively small following plays them for their actual competitive nature, whether that be speedrunning or "competitive play". F-Zero is like a fighting game, you can't just hop in and have a good time, there's skill gating. Like I said, I still couldn't beat the final GP in GX after a good week of bashing my head against it, and while it was annoying having to reset to the fucking giant-ass boring 1-2-3 lane track every time I flew off the magma course too many times, it was still a challenge I enjoyed doing, I loved trying out the different vehicles, seeing whether they suited me and could help me reach first place. There's no items, there's no Lakitu to bring you back to the course if you fall off, the race is a challenge, and if you screw up, you lose. F-Zero is a good fucking racing series, and it's definitely one-of-a-kind. There's literally no reason I could think of that the game wouldn't do well if released on the Switch, it'd fit perfectly with the single joy-con control. Needless to say, your video touched me, and I appreciate seeing it on reddit, even if the people in the comment section of the thread would rather repeat what you said about Miyamato and sales ad nauseam instead of taking a constructive approach and asking "well, why couldn't F-Zero work now exactly?". I'd love nothing more than a new, GOOD F-Zero game, and while Nintendo is a great gaming company in some areas, like creativity, accessibility, and quality, they're ass-backwards in many other ways, and their line of thinking is one of them. F-Zero wasn't just a flash in the pot. It was a landmark for both Nintendo and racing games. It deserves a second life instead of just fading into obscurity because Nintendo can't think of anything to do besides surgically removing features from it and implanted them into Mario Kart's DNA in haphazard ways. EDIT: Also, this just sprang to mind, but might i recommend checking out the original Sonic Riders? Much like F-Zero after GX, the games released after the original were pale shells of its former glory, but the original Sonic Riders has a unique sense of speed and control that, while not exactly like F-Zero in terms of challenge, also makes an insanely fun racing game. There's a much bigger focus on doing tricks, maintaining Air (unlike F-Zero you can't die, the closest feature is being forced to get off your board and walk at a snail's pace), and the three-Class gimmick, where different shortcuts and routes can only be accessed by different characters or vehicles, but it does iterate somewhat on the F-Zero experience. It's much more of a challenge than it is a party game, and considering it got 2 sequels (which were both shite), I'd say that's a pretty good argument that even a year after F-Zero GX, people were still craving a fun, creative, pretty, yet challenging racing game beyond riding on a car with wheels and drifting.

[@NoStringsPrd]

Thanks for the comment dude, kind of reeling at the moment, I did wonder what there were so many people all of a sudden! GX really is a fantastic game. I mostly come to games for solid gameplay over everything else, and whenever i think of how to explain that to people, GX is always the game my mind goes to first. It's that physics engine, and how you learn to control that gives the game its huge skill ceiling. It's such a shame the track editor hadn't returned for GX, what I would give for a few new tracks after all these years! Shame the modding community seems to be pretty thin. While it's not the same thing, Fast's level aesthetics were absolutely stunning, I just with that game controlled anywhere near as great as GX. Thank you so much for dropping by mate!

[@Venom3254]

I swear those people on that reddit thread will be the first ones to dick ride Nintendo if they do decide to make one. Almost as similar to how they were with Metroid, until Samus Returns and Prime 4 were confirmed.

[@ayotundealele1465]

@@Venom3254 : Real talk.

[@crimsonshadow1140]

F-Zero GX is my favourite game of all time, it’s such a shame that other than emulation, the gamecube and wii are the only “legal” ways you can play this absolute masterpiece of a racing game

[@blueglooga8024]

Wipeout or Fast Neo can't be F-Zero for 2 big reasons 1st= the gameplay 2nd and most important point, each F-Zero pilots and their machines have a story Gazelle who discovered his Red Gazelle in the same time of his new body after the accident Falcon the legendary bounty hunter from Port Town with his unknow face Drake the F-Zero fanboy who must deliver the MT and the MH with his friend Roger Buster with the hope to gain enough To build his own machine when the 2 others will be gone And that is only examples between the +40 drivers F-Zero is not only a race game, it is a whole univers with differents planets (Earth, Poripoto, Zou...) and it makes that we are attached To this world, that is a dream for me Thank you F-Zero for all these hours of dream, driving at 1000km/h and more around Mute City, Big Blue, and Sand Ocean

[@XFAiDERse]

Hell yeah brother, well said!

[@Derpy-qg9hn]

Neither seems unique to F-Zero by any means - WipEout's lore is pretty expansive (enough for an entire wiki dedicated to it). And what *is* so bad about its gameplay?

[@thethirdarchiver]

WipEout has a lot of lore in it too though, comparable to F-ZERO

[@baggelissonic]

An excellent video and analysis of the franchise. It's hard to find such videos in youtube, but yet you managed to captivate me through every second. Excellent pacing, interesting story telling and editing, as well as coming to a reasonable deduction, that i haven't quite heard before. Congratulations, on making a retrospective of the Futuristic racing genre and I am looking forward to your new videos

[@tomaslelli9673]

The best homage to F-Zero. Period.

[@ejomon_27]

"Nintendo doesn't just release the same old game with a coat of paint often." Exhibit A: Mario Kart 1-8, then 8 Deluxe Exhibit B: New Super Mario Bros, basically an HD Super Mario Bros although it was fun and did well, had 4 games and another "deluxe" version for the switch Exhibit C: Mario Party Exhibit D: Pokemon; now every pokemon game is different, because of the pokemon and a few more mechanics here and there, but if I played Pokemon Red then went to Pokemon Sword, it wouldn't feel very different, in terms of gameplay at least. LOZ passes because some of those games were revolutionary, even considered the best ones of their time, or all time.

[@GmanSir]

How anybody can look at the Mario Kart series and thinks its hasn't evolved with each installment has their eyes closed. And Nintendo basically do nothing for Pokemon since they only own 1/3 of it.

[@ejomon_27]

All they did was add drifting, update graphics, and add new characters and tracks. It really did not change that much. Just like Pokemon, I can go from the first to newest game without finding much deviation, as I already have.

[@CarloNassar]

Pokemon is not made by Nintendo and while I understand the exhibits you mentioned (Not 100% with you on Mario Kart), the Mario 3D platformers are actually unique from each other. Maybe not so much for 3D Land and 3D World but Sunshine had the FLUDD, Galaxy had a handful of new things, Galaxy 2, expanded on it, and Odyssey had new tricks and Cappy.

[@vejymonsta3006]

LoZ does not get a pass. Recent titles are over rated. There hasn't been a truly great Zelda since the Wind Waker.

[@ronin8088]

@@vejymonsta3006 Not gonna lie, breath of the wild is honestly a masterpiece. It seriously does deserves every award it got.

[@D3lor34n]

Great channel, you have the perfect voice for these documentary style videos. Greatly appreciated.

[@DoctorReflux]

This is one of my favorite videos in regards to video games. Thank you so much for making this so that more people can understand why f zero was so legendary

[@chrishunter7065]

Why F-Zero? Because it was the fastest racing game ever made period. I miss it so much.

[@Sinesgaitz]

Well, Extreme G3 was a thing too, I loved it as much as F-Zero. I wonder why N's fastest games never end nicely. Edit: Extreme G3 was actually a third party game, so nvm.

[@coriae]

wipEout

[@comdrive3865]

Redout is now the fastest. Fzero is no more.

[@Espen5145]

And here we are, days away from the 30th anniversary of F-Zero and still we have heard nothing. Any acknowledgment of the series or any celebration for it would be great.

[@justingoers]

God damn man this video gave me chills and made me sad at the same time. So well done! Thank you for making a video that sums up how I've felt for years.

[@unofficialmeme5972]

You nearly made me tear up when you showed the Wii Shop Channel and reminded us that it died...

[@Barrelrollz]

Miyamoto wants the next F-Zero game to be massively creative, but one of my favorite Nintendo franchises, Super Smash Bros, doesn't exactly reinvent the wheel every iteration. Hell, we're still using the Gamecube controllers for Smash Ultimate and having a blast. I realize that's his excuse, but it just seems so arbitrary.

[@Uppercut92]

But that’s the problem, as much as I agree. With F-zero’s inconsistent sales they can’t just go back to basics like in Smash. Smash is a huge success, so its not as much of a risk. But they don’t see as a company the way we do as consumers. If a new F-Zero game comes out, people will be exited for it. Especially since there are die hard fans and a new wave of gamers with a switch. I just hope they give it a shot.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

I suspect the difference is that each installment of F-Zero wasn't selling as well as the previous one and combine that with the apparent fact that the designers of the series aren't getting a charge out of updating it, you wind up with no new games. And I can't blame them for that. If it's not something that's going to help pay the bills in a significant way and it's not going to improve the company's reputation beyond a cult audience either, then it's probably not something they're going to feel like doing. There's also the issue of clones like Distance and Nitronic rush doing much of what a current version of F-Zero would do.

[@hobojoe9337]

Miyamoto doesn't make Smash, Hal and Sakurai do.

[@dingleberryharry3063]

I think the biggest problem with F-zero is that it was never really all that advertised. If I knew as a kid about this game I would have totally wanted it for my GameCube. I think that with the popularity of the switch they wouldn’t lose money on a F-zero title. They could even just advertise on the Nintendo direct and a lil on social media and that shat would do great IMO. Here’s to hopin y’all

[@naejimba]

This is a good point... dunno if you've heard about Pokken, but I was PISSED when I found out about it way after the fact... I like Pokemon, I like fighting games, it was made by the people who make Tekken... and it was really fun! The thing is Nintendo didn't think it would be a success so they just didn't advertise it... at all. What a tragedy; VERY few teams in the world have the specialized skills to make a big fighting game, they tie them up TEKKEN developers for years of all people, and then sabotage the end result. I don't get Nintendo... the value is in their IPs, yet they will lose money to push novel hardware that they LOSE money on while they either let popular IPs die or screw them over.

[@paolosama]

Myamoto we want this: 1) a good, mature story mode settled in a futuristic world with an 80's sci-fi comic atmosphere. The stories of each character cross one another, and completing the stories the player can unlock upgrades which change both the performance AND the aesthetics of the vehicle (Blue Falcon will always be Blue Falcon but, for example, will have longer wings, bigger boosters with longer exhaust etc.). 2) We want more relistic interaction, for exaple if a vehicle follows another in close proximity, the exhaust of the vehicle in front will damage the vehicle behind. We want more detailed backgraunds for the tracks, we want new tracks and a track editor. 3) We want story related online tournaments, competitions and races on a monthly schedule in wich players of the same level can compete to win titles and improve their rankings. 4) We want more technical parameter for each vehicle and overall we want all of this with the same speed as F-Zero GX and the same music as F-Zero X. Smash bros is the same game it was on N64, and still fun to play, it sells well, why F-Zero should be any different? MYAMOTO-SAN PLEASE ALLOW A NEW F-ZERO TO BE BORN

[@sigurdtheblue]

These are some really cool ideas.

[@homiesenatep]

Don't forget light speed courses

[@XFAiDERse]

Amazing ideas - you and other commenters got me Really inspired. If we want a new F-Zero, we fans probably need to get seriously creative, strict and picky - and put together a recipy Nintendo can't resist. I'm convinced that the ideas out there on the internet as of today would top up digital super-tanker. I'm convinced the perfect recipy is out there waiting to be put together. I'm a very busy man, so we'll see how far I can get, but; If I can, and if things allow me to... I want to blow their minds!!

[@AgentBurgers]

The problem is that, it makes too much sense.

[@CarloNassar]

I'd like to see if there's a way to communicate to Nintendo so you could share those ideas.

[@GameRelated]

Great Video! It makes me sad to think F-Zero may truely be dead. I love the series so much and have played all the titles that are available to me. Damn you Nintendo!

[@GameRelated]

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[@spartanq7781]

I don't understand why this series got dropped. Yes I know it hadn't sold as nearly as much as other franchises. So what? There are clearly a lot of people clamoring for a new F-Zero game for nearly two decades. Hell Mario Kart 8 used F-Zero's anti gravity. One of the developers even said it would better fit F-Zero. However despite that it didn't pan out. Mario Kart is great but it should not be a F-Zero substitute. We can have both. Late 2017 there was Fast Racing Neo. Which was essentially a F-Zero game without it's characters. It was praised through and through. The development team could easily be purchased by Nintendo to develop a new F-Zero game. We would be set if only that would happen. So why hasn't it? F-Zero and a lot of other ingored Nintendo franchises don't deserve such treatment.

[@Zeoxis6]

Damn, the F-Zero X opening gave me chills. I grew up playing this on my 64, and still have both. I was almost the only person I knew who could ever really play this game due to the speed and difficulty, and I loved it. The aesthetic, the fucking amazing music, even the simplistic visuals. It's a very vivid presence in my memory. I have Redout, but I feel like we need a more direct spiritual if not actual successor to the F-Zero series. At the very least, I still haven't played GX yet, and this reminded me that I need to order it.

[@custom-r]

No doubt, nothing new concerning the topic, however, this gives me even more hope that we will finally get the first party racer we deserve. Frankly, saying that F-Zero can't be improved on will always sound like an excuse when I see Fire Emblem, Star Fox, Animal Crossing, Metroid, Smash Bros., Mario Tennis... There will always be an area to improve in. Multiplayer is definitely it in F-Zero games. Still I would like them to allow players to create tracks as JP only games had that feature. Sure we get customized machines in GX, but creating courses will always be a highly desired concept along with online races. I may also sound like a traditionalist, but I also am opposed to F-Zero becoming more open world as others seem to want. Unless it's a spinoff, such an idea has no business being a mainline entry. Excellent video above all, though.

[@thelastcoolguyonearth4858]

Not to mention the boat loads of NSMB games, and all the Deluxe editions of games being ported to the switch. Like making F-Zero GX HD would be super easy, even if sales slumped, it's not like an HD rerelease would need that much money to produce.

[@modelingcloy218]

The reason most Nintendo franchises get sequels is because they fit a genre and a core audience that can both please people who already know the genre or get people into it. With Mario Kart 8, while not F-Zero, being very very similar, I don't think they'll make an F-Zero just because its an IP The same goes for Kid Icarus, who never got a sequel until it fit a new genre and is honestly not gonna see a sequel any time soon

[@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa]

Yeah, a lot of people don't realize how many rescources an open world would drain away from the core gameplay elements that make F-Zero what it is and need to be as strong as possible. It'd be a comparatively bland experience unless it was handled in a minimal, novel manner and just isn't what the game is focused around. One thing I will say though is that vehicle customization combined with online functionality could lead to some great things, making it easy to build relationships with other drivers even across multiple races and sort of tell your own stories. But perhaps that's just me being fanciful.

[@custom-r]

@@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa Yep, hit the nail on the head. A more, well, action/adventure based game would take considerable time, resources, and drain the budget which could be used for much more useful things. And as proven, games can still succeed without straying too hard from the core. In fact, its far more feasible to maintain the core and add minimal changes (like a built in track editor, sharing, 12 man online racers, etc.)

[@turboDrowsy]

@@modelingcloy218 You know, I would think that in the world of Nintendo, the idea of making slightly different games made for a “racing” crowd (which isn’t in itself, the same audience they’re trying to reach for in the demographic) being the reason why F-Zero games get made. Yet we also live in a world where Kirby and Yoshi can be sold on the same console, as well as stuff like Advance Wars and Fire Emblem (which only demonstrates how lame this excuse is).

[@theMrRook]

This video is so high quality, you deserve so many new subscribers! Keep up the great work!

[@NoStringsPrd]

Thank you for the kind comment, it really means the world

[@jcplays5831]

F-zero is awesome and nobody can deny that fact. I still believe that one day, F-zero will come back.

[@Fox_Moulder]

This video is one that I didn’t know I needed. I’m sad now cause of the recollection of what was lost but am happy for the life F-Zero lead, it was a good life.