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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro to Switches
0:28 - Pricing Differences (Checkout Prices)
0:57 - Switch Specs
2:37 - Switch Sound Test (raw)
3:35 - Switch Sound (lubed)
3:45 - Typing Test
5:15 - Gateron Yellow Fully Lubed
5:44 - Conclusion
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[@Romsicle]

I will be doing an update video soon on the usage of Cream switches in the future, where I'll address all the criticisms of the smoothness of this switch. Also, considering this was pretty much a beginner's perspective, it really shows the lack of transparency from retailers about a switch. Break-in time is definitely a huge thing I learned. Shoutout to more constructive criticisms and learning from community members instead of berating people for "not knowing". You don't just go straight into googling specific details as a newcomer. Toxic elitists aren't welcome here.

[@Romsicle]

@@Alcor404 Except on Aliexpress, where shipping is literally free everywhere; and there's no import fees.

[@AndrewHadi07]

@@Alcor404 stop nitpicking the price of the switch is the price of the switch

[@Lama-ix7lp]

Where did you buy your Gateron yellow switche ??????

[@shortbus2696]

What keycap set?

[@bottlefox]

Wait but I got 70 switches for only $54...

[@ActionManXVI]

lubed gateron yellows are amazing, i actually prefer them to the NK creams

[@alyohin8876]

Really?

[@ryanhtran]

@@alyohin8876 Yeah, most people agree. Its mainly really only popular because of the Tfue craze. Yellows are super nice, and they sound especially good if you get the milky top and bottom variant. If you want a higher-end super smooth switch, get any JWK recolor or Gat Inks.

[@abyssmal4164]

Wait do gateron yellows have 3 pins

[@ftrctyvreycertcewtcwrgcwef6000]

Gat yellows and creams are both pretty scratchy unlubed. Lubed gat yellows removes almost all scratchiness, so it really has extreme value. Creams are bad, because they have a break in period. Then you have to lube them and even then they are very scratcy. Dont buy creams

[@potato8137]

bro the nk creams sound so good when lubed

[@MistarCalvin]

Oh you're paying way too much for switches man, Who's your switch guy.

[@nightell4099]

BRO A FLIPPIN DOLLAR FOR A CREAM SWITCH UR JOKIN

[@nightell4099]

75 CENTS IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO????? bitch get outta heerrrreeee BUY THEM FOR 65 CENTS PER OR EVEN LESS CMON NOW 75 CENTS A PIECE YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET GATERON INKS FOR EVEN SMOOTHER SWITCHES im disappointed

[@Romsicle]

Go to Novelkeys right now and checkout. How much do you pay? It's based on Seattle tax. I also buy directly from the supplier - not from Novelkeys. So it's obviously way cheaper for me. This is for the general public if they want readily available Cream switches.

[@crispydavinci9754]

Romsicle i got mine for 65 cents...

[@itzelpretzel]

same as my worm guy

[@boli2016]

Just a quick correction, creams aren't known for their smoothness Also it would have been good to have a lubed comparison, not a really good idea of end-state with just one of the switches lubed. Thanks for the video

[@solomonshv]

creams become very smooth AFTER you break them in for a few months. broken in creams are very sought after and people 2-3 times more for them than what new ones cost.

[@SonDeLima]

Im so tired of people calling creams smooth their the scratchiest switch ever even scratchier than cherry silvers.

[@kazar2802]

i love that you switched the sounds so we can hear the difference clearly its so satisfying

[@Romsicle]

In this video, I never say which switch is better because it's all subjective. Keep the comments a constructive conversion, not an argument. I like Creams for its quality and long-term smoothness, but I like Gateron for its cheap price and I can do more with the money I saved to make it sound even better.

[@willbowers1185]

i wouldnt say the creams are smooth

[@ophieho]

Thanks so much for the informative video! Actually really like the sound of the gateron yellows lubed, a much more affordable option than the creams imo!

[@sbeckett91]

1:22 The stem on Gateron Yellows (and pretty much every MX-type switch in the market) is made of POM.

[@rafindeed]

If you can stand a bit of sluggish, nk creams sound amazing with a padded board and lubed with a light layer of permatex grease. They get tockier and really satisfying.

[@Llamoof]

The creams aren’t actually “self-lubricating.” They say they are but they actually aren’t. Kinda. NK Creams do release a chemical once pressed, but it doesn’t actually live them. Which most manufacturers mistake for self lubing. (I love the NK Creams [with krytox lube].)

[@Awesomejojo]

I see that you are using boxes as your monitor risers.

[@Romsicle]

They're perfect lmao

[@tempt2253]

That’s me as well xD

[@anwarazar6320]

A man of culture

[@andreatan97]

Gateron yellows (milky top, black bottom housing specifically) are one of the best bang for your buck linear switches out there! I have these switches and enjoy both them :) I love the "clack" that the creams produce when typed on while the gats have a "thockier" sound.

[@Brickbuilder128]

I think gateron yellows are the best overall linears when factoring in cost and performance. Yes, there's much better, but for the price you are paying for them, man, they are a steal!

[@BabusMcGowan1]

If you can find creams for around 6.50/10pc, once lubed and on the right board they are absolutely worth the money. Gat yellows are a great budget switch if fully utilized, though.

[@faustianecho]

Great video man! No nonsense just straight into it.

[@diegoflores-saiffemartinez8037]

I just bought some gateron yellows and this video makes me feel even better about that purchase

[@artikka9199]

thats some smooth ass hands man

[@Awesomejojo]

Idk if its the lighting but they really look pale

[@moniraparvin9706]

The thing is wih the nk cream they get smoother and after 2 weeks of usage the self lubricating POM would have done its job and there will be virtually no scratchiness I know i am late but thanks for the video

[@leandrovasquezvega6003]

Thanks for the comparison

[@keiyomu5755]

You can get the gat yellow milk housings at KBD fans for 2.50 a switch but the shipping is about the cost of the switches they are smoother then creams In my opinion

[@dogflavoredramen]

Nk creams are a smooth gimic, the only reason they're considered "self lubricating" is because of the break in time that POM needs, they're scratchy when stock. The only reason they're so popular is because of the distinctive poppy sound when bottoming out the switch.

[@peterlucus2062]

Great vid. What blue keycaps are you using?

[@asomodeusprince5472]

Ahh thank you for the comparison! Btw, what is dat keycaps on your board? That looks stunning!

[@Romsicle]

OSA Midnight Blue

[@hanabanana4572]

Which one do you prefer? Also great vid

[@hubi8628]

nk creams arent self lubricating they just use low friction pom, essentially tiny little specs of pom go on the surface they rub against thus technically "lubricating" it but thats after a while etc and theyll still be pretty scratchy nk creams just sound really good

[@friedrichdergroe6475]

Underrated... nice Video

[@donuts_are_good]

thanks for doing the sound test... sounds a bit hollow? Might be mic setup not sure

[@theadventureofyk4309]

I dont get why most people hate on NK creams. I mean they were made in POM material and the scratch and sound makes it unique from other linear switches. You have those scratch noises for a reason because it helps the POM do its job by rubbing against each other, and imo they did it on purpose. After you break them in the scratches almost disappear especially when you lube them and after that they would feel buttery smooth.

[@Dark-jl4js]

where did you get your keycaps?

[@jegor6084]

the thing with Nk creams is that they get better the more you use them. After a year of use, they become smoother than gateron yellows. Literally smoother than butter.

[@janui8893]

Hey i am not sure if i want the nk creams or the alpacas. Can you do a review or comparison on them in only on video? and right now i have cherry mx silent reds. And can you suggest some other linnear switches?

[@itsjulian4560]

I would do lubed gateron yellows over the creams

[@jaydendavies577]

If u have the money imo I would buy the nkc because imo I like the kinda little bit more key sounding a tiny bit of scratchy sound cause it’s not like you can’t hear the sound of it because the yellows kinda didn’t sound like a lot just like a hit on the metal but sound good

[@quirkfn]

So those r the non optical gateron yellows right?

[@monkeeatsbanana7397]

I reccomend akko cs rose reds, they are pretty smooth stock, and its only 13-14 dollars for 45 pieces

[@Romsicle]

Already tried them - decent but not THAT smooth

[@BingstonGames]

i was gonna get the creams but i realized wont the solid color interfere with the rgb?

[@cottoneyejoe5142]

To be honest just by yellows and lube them they sound literally the same as novelkey creams and it will save u more money

[@meowscanttype2049]

imo creams are waaaaay louder

[@cottoneyejoe5142]

@@meowscanttype2049 that is tru

[@murray58]

To me the yellows have a higher pitch which I’m not a big fan of

[@sonic_idk]

I can agree, i just lubed my gateron yellows ks-15 with krytox 203g0 and it feels amazing

[@izzio6680]

Nah creams r made out of a different material. There is a difference

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

The creams are a lot cheaper on Ali? But from pretty reputable stores like kdb .. like 48$ for 75...

[@TurboZarya]

What about inks? Aren't they known for their smoothness?

[@kylelutes1767]

The scratchiness of the NK Creams mostly disappears after they are broken in and lubed. They do require a longer breaking in than any other switch I’ve heard of though. I’ve also heard of it completely disappearing after though so I’ll have to try them some day and find out.

[@Romsicle]

That's what I've heard so far. Will probably make a follow up video if people are looking for one.

[@kylelutes1767]

Romsicle yeah I’d enjoy that.

[@be4v228]

i like haveing gateron yellows for the fn keys like f1 f2 f3 ect

[@JRHawker12]

I think I like lubed gateron yellows with creams on the stabs

[@user-nj2xu5xi1i]

Awesome review!

[@dabid1337]

i prefer the deeper richer sound of the creams, but gat yellows are great switches for the price...especially once you lube them up

[@dixinmayas938]

I wanna buy a pack of nk creams, take the time to break them in and try to do a comparison of fresh out of the box ones and broken-in ones. I don’t know if anyone has done it yet...

[@Karmaarz]

This review is on the normal gateron yellows ? Not the optical ones ?

[@taiz_1726]

I thought you were talking about the optical switches

[@MartTheFat]

Where do I even buy switches, I can never find any?

[@nice2815]

Is it me but raw gateron switches sound lubed???

[@peathyyy]

Thinking about getting some Yellows myself because I don't want to keep my flatmates up at 2 in the morning and student budget obliterates Creams from my budget. Apparently if you don't like the higher pitch of Yellows, lubing, filming and replacing the top housing with a Cherry top helps deepen the sound.

[@noidsuper]

You could try getting Milky Top or black top yellows, those are both fairly deep sounding when lubed. The high pitch generally comes from Yellows with clear tops

[@peathyyy]

@@noidsuper That's true, most of the time though the switches available are clear top, and if the others aren't available I have an old Corsair board I can just harvest the switches from

[@HanaOuka_]

whats better gat yellow or gat black/ gat milky black???

[@maltex7575]

where is the typing test from the cream lubed switches

[@maltex7575]

i mean fully lubed

[@sta5348]

I like cream. Idk why, but keys named butter, cream, jelly, marshmello, etc are usually the ones I like. I like linear and tactiles

[@minhbu95]

Dude I'm the same lol. Gourmand lover

[@wizbliz7434]

are these 3 pin or 5 pin switches?

[@n3lls81]

Both sounded very scratchy even lubed. Try finding Beeswax linear switches.

[@highaquatic3055]

why are you using unlubed creams

[@nateswrld9]

i have a very important question... if i buy creams and put puddings on top on them, will the rgb still shine through?

[@Romsicle]

It will, but it'll be severely reduced compared to a clear top housing.

[@wantlesssquid6886]

Novelkey creams aren't self lubricating. It only says that because POM is a low friction substance.

[@hyderzulfiqar]

Hi Romsicle, may I know where did you purchase the blue cnc case?

[@Romsicle]

Check the description in my custom keyboard video!

[@gabrielmoura3064]

I have gateron yellows in my kb and can say that even without lube they sound and feels quite good, i ordered some lube so i'm curious to see how it is going to be then, hopefully as good as the couple of gateron ink yellows that i have

[@Romsicle]

Crisp clacks all around - you're gonna have so much more fun typing

[@ronniebeltran6844]

What’s the best gateron yellow housing in your opinion? Milky, clear, or the all-black housing?

[@Romsicle]

All-black is the best IMO. Milky was the first iteration and it had a few compatibility issues, clears are good for backlighting, and the all black has the best sound.

[@chasepierre6661]

NK creams are scratchy when not lubed. I wouldn’t call them smooth at all.

[@ilyrag]

Did you just say stock creams are switch?

[@adinouanouanoua]

Nice video dude

[@clakitythoc1439]

I think self-lubing POM means you have to use it for awhile to achieve a certain degree of smoothness. I don't think it's fair to review a stock cream alone and disagrees on the last level of smoothness.

[@6zek3842pw]

are nk creams compatible with smd pcbs

[@jz.03]

Breaking in creams before lube or just lube. I have 2K presses on all my creams and I’m tired and done of it. How many presses would be good if you deem it’s worth it?

[@Romsicle]

2K? That's nothing lol - I've grinded at least 5K into my switches and they're still scratchy.

[@ZarahMcIntosh]

I thought pom takes time to become smooth. They need to be used to get smooth, or lube them I guess.... atleast that's what I thought how the pom self lubrication works.

[@Romsicle]

It's kind of a gimmicky term in this context - you have to break the switches in more than normal even with lube and that kinda sucks lol

[@dskztar9348]

Can you review the keyboard you are currently using, if am not wrong is some kind of GK64 with modifications

[@Romsicle]

Gonna show my build soon, but it's a regular GK64 but with a split spacebar + 1 key

[@thefristr]

Where can I get that switch opener?

[@giulianreil2175]

gateron milky or nor milky ?

[@chrisdotdash5154]

How do lubed Kailh Speed Silvers compare?

[@Ken-zg3ze]

Hey Rom, What do you think are the least wobbly switches? I read that Zeal or Kailh Box are the most stable, but I just watched a review saying that Zeal have considerable wobble.

[@Romsicle]

Stem wobble wise, Kailh Box are probably the best for stem wobble, but Kiwis are by far the most stable switch I've ever tried. Anything from zeal or kailh box is pretty good as long as they're not the silent variants; I've had some trouble with silent zeals. But tbh, majority of the gateron switches don't have enough stem wobble to be worried about it.

[@Ken-zg3ze]

@@Romsicle Thanks for the info!

[@iJansport]

I just got some creams for my hotswap board and now I feel like I mightve wasted money.

[@Romsicle]

It happens, but you might end up liking them more for their deeper sound signature and just quality alone.

[@txneyst5033]

I don’t think so, the creams feel better for sure I have both of these switches you’ll love them !

[@allen.9]

trust me you didn't, those keycaps are making so much noise

[@allen.9]

watch another type test to see what i'm talking about

[@iJansport]

@@allen.9 I put them in a few days ago and I like them so far. I haven't lubed them but I'm considering it eventually. I really enjoy not misclicking keys as often as I was with my old gateron reds

[@whoizthedrizzle]

Two corrections, the NK Creams are about $0.65, and they are known for their scratchiness, not smoothness

[@Vestrix]

im sorry but you did not lube the yellows properly, because they sound the same as before without lube. i have yellows and they sound much better lubed than they sound in the video

[@JustJoshing4L]

I can hear spring ping coming from the Creams. Also, was planning on getting Creams until I saw this video. Yellows are looking pretty good now. Just gotta decide if I want the Yellows or if I want to shell out for Tealios V2's which I was also looking at

[@snickdoodler3661]

Bro I’m in the same boat, I have no idea what switches or hate one kit to get for My budget to be below 170 bucks

[@alexmortensen2211]

The ping is def the keyboard and not the switches. That keyboard sounds awful.

[@Shjandy]

NK creams are a long term investment. After around 10,000 actuations they'll be broken in and sound much better and feel much smoother

[@pilsy2063]

Very nice video! Just one thing I want to point out: while the travel distance is 4mm the actuation point is already at 2.2mm (or so) on the Creams (don’t know about the yellows, maybe 2mm). But maybe you simply shortened the sentence in the quick spec rundown so that it sounded wrongly :)

[@Romsicle]

Yeah, I worded it wrong, should have been 2mm for both actuation distances instead of the full 4mm travel.

[@pilsy2063]

I just find it so hard to find the actuation distances on some of the switches as most of the time only the actuation force and the total travel distance is given :(.

[@strange_jason]

Creams are scratch city if they're not broken in and even after they have been broken in there are much better options out there. Also, why not use a good keyboard for sound tests? That board is ping city.

[@nahtanojoth]

Is filming necessary for creams?

[@Romsicle]

Nope. The housing is tight enough.

[@tommyroy7057]

what is your headset ?

[@nicholascopela4655]

should i get gateron red or yellow for a stock switch?i love smooth switches

[@Romsicle]

Either one will do fine. They're only 5g apart for actuation force. Most people will go with red for their first linear switch though.

[@Atpfr]

What keyboard or keycaps are those

[@catoflado4977]

I always hear people saying Novelkeys Creams are One of the scratchier linear switches besides It's name. Never tried then tho. But Just from hearing them in your video, they sound scratchy

[@itzzkylo3370]

old but worth gold

[@SolaireFlair]

In my opinion, NK Creams are a status symbol more than anything else. They're expensive and well known. Gat Yellows are cheaper, feel just as good, and once lubed they're the buttery budget king.

[@dxmonicz]

black inks lubed are smother just my than yellows just my opinion tho

[@HireMichaelEverson]

I like the sound of the creams. They look solid built and may take some use to break them in. Picked them up for $45 for 70. Going to pair them with a GMMK compact ($60) and find some key caps and that should put me around the same price (+/-) a premium keyboard from like Corsair or something.

[@alexmortensen2211]

Im doing a similar build aswell

[@HireMichaelEverson]

@@alexmortensen2211 I decided to get in on the Ikki68 Aurora GB. Sounds a lot better and I don't have to clip my creams.

[@alexmortensen2211]

@@HireMichaelEverson what do you mean by clipping your creams?

[@alexmortensen2211]

@@HireMichaelEverson Ooooo the Ikki68 Aurora GB is nice

[@HireMichaelEverson]

@@alexmortensen2211 GMMK compact I found out is three pin and NK creams are five pin. Yeah I'm not super into waiting till june to get a keyboard but that keeb is siiiick.

[@rockiefillier9521]

Nk creams are one of the most scratchy linears they are not to be called the most smooth at their price refer to the alpacas/jwk durocks/oil kings instead

[@JohnSmith-tz7iy]

That's weird because I heard the Creams are quite scratchy actually

[@Romsicle]

They are indeed scratchy in the beginning.

[@emmanuelgoldstein8233]

Funny that Gateron Yellow is smoother and less scratchy, being cheaper. Sure it's more wobbly but that wobbliness wouldn't even make audible differences, right?

[@moisesbrainsky8866]

3:48 you gotta fix that spacebar rattle. Keep it up!

[@porch704]

Lubed NK creams are better overall but if your getting switched with lubing get gayer on yellows for sure

[@w4tzap26]

What keyboard is that?

[@clockwork6966]

so obviously all switches (more noticeably linear) have a "break in" period. are these tests and conclusions taken from after or before that time of about 2 months of use?

[@Romsicle]

Lubed Gateron linears are so smooth lubed they don't even need break in time. BUT, the creams apparently have a huge break-in time. This was around 2 weeks of usage when making the video. Will be making a follow-up video soon though as requested by others.

[@AnthonyJames7]

Novelkey creams, don't you mean premiums?! Lol ;D

[@gr1ff1x37]

that space bar is scuffed to say the least. and idk feels like you got a bad batch of both.

[@ninjabieber7695]

Yellows are more clear ngl not the best sounding but pretty decent for the fastest switches

[@Fabian-gi5tg]

Gateron yellow or razer's optical Red?

[@Romsicle]

If you need fast actuation, Razer Red. For anything else, Gateron Yellow.

[@xanira6367]

Idk the comparison doesn't really make sense, material composition is totally different.

[@yarx1922]

ianchusito was here

[@yarx1922]

Great Comment!