Another eBike that Makes Super73 Look Bad

[@notsoanonymous2458]

The only thing making Super 73 look bad is themselves with their absurd prices.

[@k04s4]

The sur ron isn't really a bicycle, it's a electric dirt bike, I'd imagine over time it'll get tough to ride that on the street. Imagine getting that confiscated by the police like $5k gone plus tickets.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

might be able to ride them around the big cities. but you go to any Smalltown USA with the bored cops sitting around jerking off at their speed traps, yeah, i wouldn't want to be on a surron unless it has pedals. Lots of people riding them around like idiots swerving wheelies across 3 lanes of traffic. Only a matter of time

[@k04s4]

@EBikeBuilder 100%, I'd take my chances on a homebuilt bike conversion with 5k+ watts over a sur ron any day. Today, i mostly use my tsdz2 on a road bike to go farther faster over my bbshd bac855 on 72v or x1 pro, which don't feel like bikes anymore.

[@EmotoOregon]

Sur ron and Talarias didn't get to be the most popular e-bikes for no reason. The amount of fun and ease of ownership plus aftermarket parts is insane. Add in the stealth factor and light weight, and it's a contest.

[@k04s4]

@Jonathan Daniels they aren't ebikes. They don't come with pedals, and even pedals are added arent ment to be pedaled. They are e-dirt bikes or e-mopeds but not a bicycle. Buying a sur ron then putting another few thousand into mods, and it could get confiscated no thank you. The sur ron isn't that stealth anymore.

[@EmotoOregon]

@k04s4 Well, sounds like you don't own one. If you live where they will permanently confiscate it, that blows. I don't, and it's awesome. So much better, it makes pedal ebike seem lame. But if lame is your thing and you just need it for commuting, I totally understand. I meet that type from the big cities all the time.

[@Icenova20]

I feel like you got a unique thing going with your custom e-bikes, I know that's what originally brought me here. Inspired me to get a Baserunner for my ebay hubmotor.

[@PhdHater]

His Mongoose is the reason I subscribed to the channel.

[@hardergamer]

@@PhdHater Same here, and I can't stand srruns, way too small.

[@crimsonhawk467]

We need more ebike that have the power of a sur Ron but still look like a traditional bike. That is where freedom still exists!

[@bestself2438]

I looked this bike up and I do like the look and specs (works for me). I'm old(er) haha...I actually remember when Mopeds came out....like for the first time ever. Ebikes are a reinvention and reimagining of the Moped because of new technology, that being batteries and power, obviously. I like this bike because it has that "tiny motorcycle" look and feel while still having pedals. If it has pedals, the cops don't seem to care as long as you're responsible. I do love the Sur Ron but there no off-road trails where I live, so with no pedals the Sur Ron looks too much like a bonafide dirt bike on the road...and the cops won't like that. Plus bike trails...even this "toy motorcycle" could hide among the bikes....I think pedals are the key. Sur Ron in a second if I just happened to live where there are trails...but for the rode and some bike trails (especially paved trails) this seems like a good bet. Thanks.

[@shawnhunt2332]

Yep , your right ! Pedals are key (in Waikiki} and not ride ur crazy. Aostirmotor S18 is my current bike

[@solarcabin]

Instead of trying to compare to an Ariel X just get the Ariel X. I ride an Ariel X 52 and do 35mph with a 30 mile range and can tow a trailer with 2 fat dogs, go off road and I charge with solar. watch my videos. Ariel X will still be around when those other copy cats have folded up.

[@thelonercoder5816]

ariel rider has been exposed as sourcing their bikes from china btw. You can find the same bikes on alibaba 30-50% cheaper lol. And I say this as someone who owns an ariel rider bike. I think the real revolution in bikes will be people outright avoiding these brands and just getting their bikes directly from the manufacturers.

[@solarcabin]

There isn't an ebike made in the US that doesn't source their parts from China or another country. Look on your batteries shifters and hub motors. All made in other countries and so what.

[@thelonercoder5816]

@@solarcabin That's not what I mean. I'm not talking about getting individual parts from china. It's the ENTIRE bike that's from china. Most of these ebike companies are just rebranded chinese bikes completely. Meaning, they just slap their logo on an $500-1.5k ebike from china and then charge us 2-3x what they paid. That's 95% of current ebike companies. Most of these companies have no innovation at all. You can just get the same bikes on aliexpress or alibaba instead of buying from an ebike company.

[@solarcabin]

@@thelonercoder5816 If you buy any ebike from Alibaba or aliexpress you will pay about the same after shipping and you will wait months to get it and probably be damaged in shipping with no warranty. They are not the same ebikes friend!

[@thelonercoder5816]

@@solarcabin Laughably false. There's a ton of aliexpress suppliers who have warehouses in america or near it. And for those that are located far away, a big reason it's cheap is because the shipping can be slow (sometimes several months). And yes they are. You clearly dont know much about ebikes. I own several ebikes. I've done a ton of research on this stuff. There are entire articles and videos that go in depth of how this stuff works and exposing the entire ebike industry. It's the same bikes being rebranded. You can literally go to manufacturer pages on these websites and they even offer services of rebranding their bikes to fit an ebikes companies needs. it's what 95% of ebike companies do.

[@gmanhad]

Get the X class. Stronger motor, bigger controller, faster.

[@RobertWildling]

I wish those bikes would be sold in Europe! America has just the way better and e-bike-friendlier laws and therefore e-bikes than Europe...

[@MyUtubefreak]

There are no bicycle spokes to break or tune in the REVV 1. There is also a cage storage accessory for $100 that installs just below the battery. Other options like a rear rack and extended seat for 2 riders will be offered in the near future. I currently have a Ride1Up Core-5.

[@neil_sol]

Do you know the top end speed on this? Is the grizzly a better bike? I like the looks of this bike but will probably get the grizzly if the grizzly is more powerful

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

The dual battery version looks better with the extra battery sitting on top of the controller cage area .

[@bogdanproko2612]

I like your content. I am also an ebike fan. You made a great job with your ebike. Regarding Surron Light Bee, from what I know, it has only 75 kg maximum load. I think it's too little for an adult, from this point of view. I'm afraid that you can have problems with the frame.

[@hardergamer]

Anyone over 5"8 has problems on Surrons.

[@patquigley8221]

ITS LOOKS GOOD BUT HOW FAR DOSE IT GO ONONE CHARER

[@RunBikeMike]

It definitely looks cool. I am interested in that style of a bike.

[@jasondundom1390]

I built my own, a Trek 4300 aluminum 4 Series mtb, with the Fang 750w Mid drive / 52v 25ah batt.. and the Likkie 48t chan ring.. total weight of only 55lb. the programing cable allows for fine tuning as i set the controller to 25 amps. With a full charge of 58.8v i drafted a box truck on the street the other day and hit 46.3mph full throttle (while peddling my ass off) of course, 40.6 without a draft (Pa) on the flat and 33 throttle alone. As of late my chain skips on my 11t cog ! i've had the shop tune it up and still skips.. chain is only half stretched and cog teeth are not that bad, i bought a clamp on swivel chain tensioner pulley which actually made things worse when it comes to shifting.. all the parts are new other than frame and shocks.. Shimano Alivio shifter and derailleurs.. i did drop amps back to stock (19) it still skips but not as bad.. Have i reached the limits of these Parts/Bike ? Are there "Ebike" Rated 9 speed Cassettes with matching Chains that can handle my abuse ?? stuck in cali "Legally" i can only have 750w and i can't afford another build or a new shelf bike 🤷 Ideas/Suggestions ?

[@chrissinclair8705]

Well mechanical disc brakes can work but there is a big but...For example I just have a nice little 500w commuter but it only weighs 52lbs with the 15amp battery on there. Also I'm mechanically inclined so I adjusted them very well and put some real brake pads. Once you start though getting into the heavier bikes the mechanicals just don't really cut it. Some of those bikes are starting to get near the 100lbs of weight range so even if the mechanicals are perfectly fine on a light 50lbs bike you start adding another 20-30 pounds the brakes are really working hard to stop you decently.

[@andrewwarriner4964]

have you checked out the new talaria sting r. has alot of upgrades from the original bike

[@zoopa999]

I still love my Super73 Mojave. It's the look of the bike. If i wanted a real off-road I'd go with the SurRon. BUT...this is a pretty sweet deal. Also, I like the fact that they have a VERy big user base and have worked out all the kinks. If there's an issue with this you're pretty much screwed...unless I missed something?

[@quentinparker8333]

I'm going with the HPC conversion 5kW motor 92V hi cap battery pack on my Canondale 29" mountainbike, large frame.Several reasons, max power for this frame, lightweight huge rim dims and great range 120M + . Will rarely use it off-road and I love thge large dia rims/tires. What do you see as the disadvantages, I like large bike size too at 6'-4"/300 lbs. Comfort, fast hi range, Cost is negative.

[@DavidRyan.]

NPL, I get the feeling that you don’t really like pedaling your ebikes. Would you ever consider getting a moped style ebike like an ONYX or AR Grizzly?

[@NPLVentures]

the onyx is a great bike, just a little on the heavy side

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I agree.. As an AR Kepler owner I enjoy the "Real Bike" style most of all. Nothing wrong with a folding bike.. But mini bikes without the gasoline motor in it, look silly.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Look at the Coleman mini bike pics.. That is the same frame these guys all like. Except it is smaller size.

[@mibli2935]

I am a customer of Ride 1up, bought two ebikes from them and I am pretty happy in price/quality category. HOWEVER, this is not an ebike, it is a moped. It is really unfortunate that vendors and reviewers alike started to use the term "ebike moped". Please add separate category "e-moped with pedals". This is not a bicycle, I am afraid that sooner rather then later overuse of these model will result in police clamping down on us, regular e-bike pedaling crowd.

[@trini_boi2414]

This is the bike I want..but they are building this bike the outdated way..the cables have no quick disconnect esp that rear wheel..so taking that back wheel off would be a pain.. there's a few other minor issues I'll like to see them improve on..so in the meantime I'll ride my cheap Chinese ebike for now..maybe Christmas I'll get one cause I'm tired of waiting to see some improvement..

[@1010mero]

Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. kzbin.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.

[@claudiorojas1234]

How cold was the weather that day? Those gloves make you look ready for a blizzard 🥶

[@anthonyhoofatt7253]

I like the custom diy content of this channel. Maybe you should consider building your own poor man’s suron with a stealth bomber kit. Then you can make it to your specs and maybe save some cash.

[@kbrown6918]

Nice look and specs but I still like the Juiced Hyperscorpion for around the same price with more power, faster MPH and better look

[@Livengoodproject]

In 57 yo. I want a combustion engine ! But this makes so much more sense

[@ForbinColossus]

I like the look but it's missing a key feature - *a height adjustable seat or saddle* . Without that, these 'mini-bike' designs are throttle-only. You can't pedal the damn thing if you can't adjust for your leg length.

[@moa-wg3bo]

Coming from a background in cycling I've never been satisfied with the antiquated bike components you get on these prebuilt ebikes - so I gotta ask - would you consider doing an ebike conversion to a proper modern mtb? Take for example a commencal meta, weighing in at about 15kg, + a cyc x1 pro conversion for another ~10kg. That gives you a 5000w bike with better offroad capabilities than any other ebike on the market (save dirtbikes) yet tipping the scales at less than half what a surron weighs. The only downside of course being that you get a max of about 1500wh in the frame, so you would have to strap a second battery on the downtube for more than 50km throttle only range.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

mtb only good for mtb, not comfortable for riding around, need a more upright position. Ppl not gonna drop thsouands on a MTB to commute. Unless you do something to bring the bars up but then its not really suited to MTB. I agree tho lots of ebikes use garbage components, square taper bb, freewheels instead of cassette, etc

[@marthamryglod291]

I think that you have a really good idea with a cyc build on a quality bike. In regards to 1500 watt-hours, that is plenty of battery. I have 1440 watt hours and 175 peak amps with my battery and it gets more than 40 miles at with a 60 amps controller.

[@calvintanner7897]

What's the name of this electric bike?

[@Labgorilla]

One day a press launch will be just a black screen.

[@jojodancer1961]

gonna go for the wicked freedom , love the bmx handlebars and the upright sitting position not to mention the power and almost 40 mph top speed with almost 36 mile range

[@nlieber]

Check out the 2022 admit jet armor for a Sur Ron competitor

[@yabruf]

Yeah the price is nice and I like the look better than the X class. But 1KW nominal 2KW peak, on the X class is still better. I have had the 52v xclass for just under two months now and love it! The only other ebike, that I would consider purchasing next is the Onyx RCR.

[@slimdunkin117]

You can’t go wrong with the xclass. I don’t think the onyx is street legal tho

[@slimdunkin117]

Nominal and peak don’t matter that much they’re similar motors..might be geared internally a bit different..need to wait for reviews

[@yabruf]

@@slimdunkin117 Yeah I stay off of the streets. I primarily ride canal paths to and from work.

[@slimdunkin117]

@@yabruf I’m mostly on streets..no bike lanes

[@rantanplan7474]

Super73 has a much better dropout system, especially the one they just came out with in 2023. And they have 2200W peak power vs this bike which only has 1500W. It's easy to compare bikes looking only at price vs spec sheets but it never tells the whole story.

[@Mike-xq8bv]

It’s goes 30-38 that’s great speed anything more well just buy a motor cycle just saying

[@rantanplan7474]

@@Mike-xq8bv power is not just a concern for top speed but also acceleration

[@ericeaton1552]

If someone is considering this price range, and would like full suspension and more power, then I'd suggest taking a look at AmpRides. They even have folding bikes in this class...

[@nobloxflux]

U004 triangle battery upside down. 72v 21ah with charger for $540 on Amazon

[@CuttingKnives]

Most of these different brand e-bikes are actually made in China, this is why they all look similar. When the company ordered the bike, they just custom printed their logo on, have the manufacturer paint it differently and put in certain “upgrades” and features on, so it will appear that they are unique. But most are from the same original build from China. If you want to pay cheaper, buy it directly from China. Wait time will be longer but you will save some money. I purchased mine directly from China. 1000w motor, 25a controller, 23ah battery, dual suspension, Shimano hydraulic disk brakes for only 1500$ total. 3 months waiting though. Same specs here in the state probably will cost me $2500 or more.

[@pddellow]

I believe the founder of Ride1up: Kevin Dugger will totally disagree with you! He designs all Ride1up bikes..

[@craigstevenson6565]

I have an Rx, and I bought it with 500 miles on in it was a display model from a company here in the UK, just under 4k purchase, and I wish I knew that bikes are on borrowed time, especially the controllers 6 months later controller is busted s73 has no replacement in stock so 250 for a back order you have no idea when is coming!

[@50scap3]

I’ve looked high and low and for the life of me I can’t find any Super 73 content where they compare themselves to other bikes to aggrandize themselves and make other brands look bad. You know it IS POSSIBLE to simply review a bike on its merits without dragging S73 into the conversation.

[@reeseprince8]

I've got one and it's so good that it's the bench mark for others

[@slimdunkin117]

From a KZbin perspective a surron might work. But another diy bike might work too. Diy videos do well

[@vfr1vfr2]

52V 20Ah battery with 750w or 1000w motor, that is not going to offer much range if you operate it at full throttle mostly.

[@ToadboyVlogs]

I think it's really nice looking and at a fine price point.

[@VoltedAdventures]

all of these companies are coming out with super73 look a likes...some better then than others but honestly it's all alibaba bikes at the end of the day....

[@zoopa999]

Good review. Sticking with my Super.

[@johnwilson7809]

Doesn't really complete with the Ariel Rider X-Class since the X-class has a more powerful motor. Why pay the same price for less motor?

[@PhdHater]

You should build another bike, that’s the whole reason I subscribed to your channel. It was a cool DIY channel. No offense but with your mild riding style you won’t be able to compete with content from people like SurRonster. You found your niche already, DIY e-bikes! I liked your mongoose the best, your current bikes are just dorky urban commuter bikes.

[@wilsgrant]

It uses the old model Bafang G60 motor with the heavy cast wheels and a 25a controller. This bike is going to feel much slower than the X Class.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

the g62 really is a lot better ive had it doig like 3400w on 72v. and havent melted anything

[@wilsgrant]

@@EBikeBuilder_ Agreed very impressed with it, much more robust than the G60 the stator is much larger.

[@kennethhudson8013]

You need a stretch version of e bike

[@starcityrc3298]

30ah should be standard on E-Bikes. I like it but is about $600 overpriced. $1800 is more reasonable. G-Force ZM has a 33.5ah, Full color Display Bike for about the same

[@zerokool-2058]

I just want a decent e-bike that’s $2500 and under but has really good range, fat tires.

[@thelonercoder5816]

the bike specs are underwhelming for the price so I dont get the hype. It's like nothing is competing with ariel rider's bikes in terms of price + specs. Or you can just buy ebikes straight from china since most ebike brands are just rebranded chinese bikes. Or just build your own... Waiting to see a truly revolutionary ebike with a 52V 1k watts motor, full suspension, and atleast 20ah battery all for under $2k. Now that's something to be hyped about.

[@bennetthasty7886]

I can’t wait to ride it

[@mustbee-bike994]

looks good let see if the price will remain after pre-order

[@NPLVentures]

I have faith in ride1up

[@jeremyvillaroman6062]

im fine with my s2, i cant wait for the next "super73 killer" ebike video on youtube LUL

[@Mr_Woodsmoke]

Definitely looks like a cheap knock-off. Good review though, I'll be getting the super 73R adventure series 👍🏼👍🏼

[@brockweaver8476]

Burromax tt1600r is a fantastic bike for 2k

[@buzznola6383]

The Suriname is not road legal in most states except California so for most of us not very interesting

[@buzznola6383]

Suron

[@chrisrenek9152]

My Radrover has a 52 volt 20ah battery. And a true 750 true motor .And it`s over 5 year`s old .It work`s great......I live on my E-Bike all over the east coast. Thousand`s of mile`s.....But that bike look`s cool ...Have a good one..... Old E-Bike Chris

[@cacogenicist]

Needs a 1,000W motor, etc. This bike is overpriced for the specs, which are not really comparable to an Ariel Rider X-Class 52V.

[@patquigley8221]

SHOULD I SELL MY ONE. AND IS 700. TO MUCH. LET. ME KNOW. P. F. Q.

[@andyjame9687]

Highly Recommended!!!

[@julianobelli2768]

just buy a motobecane moped at that point

[@Evill-jh1yz]

You should just buy a zero motorcycle. The Zero FX/fxs. (Used) The surron is cool but that content is oversaturated. Your videos will get lost in the shuffle (sorry). Good luck

[@jb5music]

So then you're riding along way over there on the right side 10 mph too slow just slow enough to be in everybody's way. Why wouldn't just go 10 miles an hour 15 miles an hour faster... and then you ride it out in the lane? I don't understand why they made these too slow e-bike transportation vehicles and are still making them. It's dangerous over there trolling along in the gutter while people barely pass you 10 mph faster than you. That's dumb

[@picassofinesse2092]

It’s OK if you want to build your bike from the ground up

[@picassofinesse2092]

Just trying to make sure this is not a scam, but what did I win?

[@rolandthethompsongunner64]

Can we stop referring to these things as e-bikes. If you don’t have to peddle it it’s an e-scooter. Or, hybrid e-bike.

[@VideoMusicManiacPlace]

PLs do not ride on muddy trails unless okayed. It destroys trails. Great bike!

[@MrDeceptacon88]

Be quiet woke boy

[@EBikeBuilder_]

good lord m8 it doesn't really look like a groomed trail

[@kirbyrussell3663]

Blabbering blabbering blabbering. What a crock

[@slimdunkin117]

Super73 is overpriced..this looks closer to the c3strom and Ariel rider bikes

[@kennethhudson8013]

Not long enough

[@amped19996]

You make yourself look bad.

[@badimpulses17]

Ju About to buy a used City 2 for $2,800 only 400 miles.

[@gmanhad]

U better start saving money now for the bigger battery you're going to need to use the CTY2 practically. The stock 23AH battery range is only 20 miles (of really riding it). Sure you can get more if you stick to 20mph, but why would you on that bike.

[@boostercontrol100]

Nice but I wonder if it's a real bafang 750watt motor? You know how bafang has a reputation of selling 500watt motors as 750watt. Only way to tell is to open the motor.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

bafang doesnt sell motors to anyone but distrubutors so that would be the reputation of ebike manufacturers instead

[@boostercontrol100]

@@EBikeBuilder_ it was bafang that shipped out tons of 750watt motors to ebike manufacturers that where really 500watt not 750. The only way to know if yours is a real 750 is to open it up.

[@michaelbasile6388]

I have a super 73 zx and absolutely love it....i think its so ridiculous when people rate bikes over the speed ....trying to put 3 batteries on 1 bike .....its a god damn bike and it already goes 28 ......its plenty of speed for a bicycle and people will try to 1 up me or something 😂by saying theirs goes 32 lmao i dont care .....mine is way better looking ....this bike is also ugly

[@whisperingblues9887]

Looks nothing like a ebike it's a small electric motorbike period.