Supposedly the Best? Get Real: B&T APC308 SAPR

[@Hoplopfheil]

B&T can make any gun you'd like as long as it's made out of extruded aluminum conduit

[@TheHide]

Home Depot for the win!

[@nutnfancy]

That is correct

[@whatfor5]

Hop!

[@Will-It-Wolf]

What up Hop!

[@chadwik4000]

Hey, it's @Hoplopfheil ! For B&T money I would rather roll my own scar with non FN parts, like Plumb Precision was doing...

[@davidtadlock2238]

All the gun tubers are fighting over who’s a shill or not, OG nutnfancy has been legit forever. He’s also the first guntuber that spoke about firearms other than just for “sporting” purposes and has always been honest in his reviews. By far the best KZbinr in terms of value he has brought us over the years

[@G0ldL3ader]

It’s now how you build a channel in guntube. Live stream 3h on just drama

[@johnm2213]

That’s true, if a gun isn’t good, he’ll tell you it’s a piece of shit

[@rogermurtaugh4766]

He shills cheap Chinese flash lights and nylon all the time.

[@wesleyroberts7119]

I've been a fan of his for well over a decade. He can be kinda long winded and boring sometimes, but like you said, he gives it to you straight.

[@skookapalooza2016]

It’s true that his reviews are a little long, but they’re very thorough & well done. If I want to buy a firearm, the Nutnfancy review of that weapon is definitely mandatory watching for me. He doesn’t pull punches. If you don’t agree with his reasoning, he explains his opinions very well so you can decide for yourself.

[@kylesherrer7188]

You may at times not feel like reviewing bad guns, however it does help people out. You saved me a bunch of money with your review of the UTAS-15.

[@nutnfancy]

Thanks, with good views and more donors (I've lost a lot) I'll keep on trucking

[@powerman5kw]

@@nutnfancyLoud and clear nutn

[@mekhibarnes6724]

The fact that you needed him to tell you that gun was garbage kind of shows your taste. Anything that looks like it’s out of a video game is usually not good, fyi.

[@quickgearshifter2719]

@@mekhibarnes6724his taste is fine, he drinks Blackout Coffee! Oh, and everybody needs Lt. Col. Nut, even you but ya just don’t know it yet. Happy New Year, it’s gonna be epic fyi…

[@chezpower4]

Nutnfancy this review is why people love you and your channel. You are not bought and paid for. You are authentic and say what you think and believe and stand by that 100%. Keep up the great work.

[@philwistrom9200]

I guarantee you it’s not more accurate than my S&W M&P 10 with free floated barrel…which I bought 8 years ago after watching Nutnfancy ( thank you, sir!!).

[@chrisgilbert9627]

After following for over a decade, I decided to become a donor today. Surprised at how easy it was. I’ve never used patreon before. Maybe it’s worth creating a video of how to support / become an official TNPer. Sorry I didn’t do it sooner Nutn. Thanks for all you do

[@dynamicequilibrium5322]

We got to watch this one 2 weeks ago. Nutn just dropped a sweet philosophy video, too

[@jakester455]

For $3700 it better come with a Green Beret to help me dial it in.

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

😂🤙

[@trunkmonkey56]

I have the 7.8lbs 14.3" barrel gen 1 apc 308 and I enjoy it for shooting on the move. The flash hider that's pin and welded from B&T fits surefire and B&T suppressors. Mine runs very reliably and it's shooting 1moa with federal 150 grain power point and fusion. Mine has a 2stage curved trigger that's actually great as it's slightly heavier than a SSA-E. The break isn't quiet as candy cane like either, but it's decent. I picked it up for $2700 and I love that it takes Magpul mags. Mine came with a gen 1 stock unlike your gen2 stock shown, and it's not flimsy thankfully. Something you didn't discuss is how well fit the parts are, and how well finished they are. The metal and it's coatings are all top notch. Dual ejectors on the chrome plated bolt are some of the things I appreciate. Some of your review is accurate to mine. There is a lot of push in the recoil, and I think an AR10 is a better value. I don't think this is a bad purchase at the discounted price a lot of people are finding them for though. People always come to check it out when I'm shooting it, and while I don't buy things with that purpose it's still fun to start chatting about it. I'm keeping mine.

[@andrettski8686]

I suffered through the whole vid even though I would never pay anywhere near that for a firearm.

[@nutnfancy]

Thanks for doing that bro

[@lifeontheX]

Same. I wanted all the dirt/facts.

[@unkulwilly]

for that price a person can get several well made firearms and still have money left over for ammo. i can't understand why some manufacturers think they can charge that much.

[@garagemetalshop7975]

Suffer? I listen to Nutn even when I’m not interested in the actual thing. I always learn something.

[@Evilknight76]

@@unkulwillyWhy would Swiss lower their price over some cheap americans while in Europe, even hunters pays 5k€ for a Blaser single shot hunting rifle?

[@RepEvox]

I was slightly obsessed with the idea of this gun a few years ago, but realized you can build an AR platform to be better in every way. You can build around the full ambi, accuracy, lightweight, suppressed use, or cool factor or possibly all of the above if your wallet is as deep as this rifle costs.

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

Do you really think you need a battle rifle as opposed to a bolt action?

[@RepEvox]

@@cosmiccharlie8294 I don't need any guns. Does that answer your question? I have bolt guns also.

[@DarkCatfish]

@cosmiccharlie8294 who asked for your opinion?

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

@@DarkCatfish Go ahead, have you some boat anchor,,,,,,,,,,,

[@magmacoffee]

He made me wanna buy one! 7.8 pounds for 16 inch barrel is not bad. It’s on par with a scar by 8 ounces big deal. My question is the accuracy if it produces the accuracy and its reliable cost is not a reason to judge it.! been watching for 15 years love the content!

[@luckywyatt]

We’ve got both the 14.5+pin & weld with SurFire mount parked on it. -- and the 20” DMR fluted both with side folding stock and folding buis,,,, they lend well to being a suppressor host. I should’ve sent you with the 14.5” p&W All of them come with an excellent elffman trigger (costs about $300 alone) don’t forget they run inexpensive PMags 10’ ,20’s , 25rd mags and p50 drums. Ar-10’s (aero M5, PA-10, DPMS LR-308, (and all the fly by night mfg’s) …..generally : end users who are building, buying complete guns …. Are plagued by a myriad of problems ///// feel doopped! And suppression a DI …. Will be a journey of playing musical chairs with various parts to get it tuned to work (most of the time.) Nonetheless,,, I’d take one today over a scar17 or a DSA FN-FAL, certainly over a M1A or a PTR91 DMR. Those usually function well but are damn heavy Totally

[@wyominggunproject]

Everything you said in the beginning of this video is why we moved to Wyoming. I love it.

[@granitestateman942]

Wind doesn't get to you?

[@wyominggunproject]

@ nope. You get used to it.

[@harding3blake3]

Bought my SCAR17 years ago off your review. So glad I've never fallen into the hype of the "SCAR like" rifles that have come after. Thanks for the great review, as always.

[@echodelta2172]

Buying the knockoff never scratches the itch

[@rossdonaghy1748]

#Has individual scope rings ... Chooses to mount the lugs oriented over tiny charging handle. Why TNFP? Why?

[@almostontimehero5415]

Nutin' throwing hands and words with B&T. He aint happy for how much it costs.

[@thedon7528]

As anyone should!

[@londonarmory2545]

Calling your viewers morons is great way to keep them around. Already hard enough to sit through your way to long videos to get the very little actual information we are looking for. Maybe some like your opinions and the way you present them but not me. Present your opinions without emotions and just facts. Spending lots of money on a rifle that you deem crap and then called a moron is just awesome. I won’t be clicking on another one of your videos even if it’s what I want to see or hear. I in Canada spent $6000 and it’s best gun I have and I have a few lol. 15000 rounds and only issue I had was the first 5 rounds through it. All 5 failure to feed. Oil and cleaned it and made sure nothing I was doing and checked the mag and couldn’t find anything and after that first mag not one bad round and no one I know who owns one feels the way you do. Good luck going forward and thanks for all the work you have done in the past.

[@mtsEnrique]

Nutnfancy, dont ever stop, dude. You've guided my safe contents for over 10 years. Sometimes i listen, sometimes i don't. Hell, I'd send you my honey badger, and im sure you'd hate it, lol. Keep going, brother.

[@MarkyMan316]

Owned this gun and the rest of the APC lineup. The 14" is much more manageable; no reliability or accuracy issues. Agree the DMR is way too (front) heavy and got sold.

[@mlgtactics9911]

Any idea how Nutn weighed the DMR version over 10 lbs, but the website had it at 9lbs?

[@MarkyMan316]

@mlgtactics9911 I've found B&T's website to be very inaccurate on weights and measurements. I'd trust Nutn on this one.

[@dantesfinferno7248]

Could also be because he has the pro stock on the gen 1 ​@mlgtactics9911

[@ryanjones4917]

Comment for the algo. I sincerely appreciate your philosophy videos. Longtime viewer, I think you were a year in when I found KZbin. Thank you for all you do to inform and motivate.

[@roundearthshill248]

"maybe it's just because I'm some pussy" caught me off guard and cracked me the hell up 😂😂

[@dantesfinferno7248]

@@roundearthshill248 at least he's a little self aware

[@4theloveofChrist]

Not even goin to lie I never even heard of this thing lol! I just watched it to reinforce my confirmation bias for my POF Revolution DI. Thanks for shitting all over this gun. That was funny!

[@shanebuechner1429]

I love the honesty! Thank you. I'll stick with my SCARs.

[@JohnZ556]

Love the SCARs! 🤣I have that one friend who just has to be different and thinks Swiss-made makes him special. He brought an APC308 when I recommended he just get a SCAR, turned out it was heavy, ammo-picky, not accurate(on top of he is a 💩 shot), and it recoiled a lot for its weight. Then he silently sold it.

[@mikehoncho4637]

I love voiding warranty scraping a can on my combat rifle. Tells me everything i need to know. Also I have a scar 17. With a voided warranty. Yeah, it's an almost 4 thousand dollar rifle without a warranty lmao

[@weduhpeople8504]

Scar master race ftw! Coming from a Belguim 17s and 16 owner. RCH 👍🏼💥😅 I did rebarrel the 17s with a 5R barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmore before FN made one in 6.5 CM and kept my oem 16” 7.62 x 51 barrel to switch between. 😊

[@weduhpeople8504]

@@JohnZ556 Did he end up buying a Scar 17?

[@JohnZ556]

@@weduhpeople8504 🤣too much ego to do that

[@TXMAC]

This felt like an old school TNP tabletop. Thank you

[@jaysea33]

POF now has a base modle for their 308! I hope Mr. Nutnfancy can review it sometime!

[@bender43718]

I’m glad I picked my scar H up for 2k. It’s a great shooter.

[@shanebuechner1429]

I've a number of SCARs. Can't say enough good about them.

[@UndertheTreesPNW]

​@@shanebuechner1429Same, I bought all mine 'used'

[@MarktheMartian]

S&W MP10

[@StagFabulous]

28:49 The way that stock flexes is nutty. They may as well have bolted a big clown shoe to the back of the receiver.

[@pineapplewarriorz]

Amazing review!!! Thank you for the unbiased opinion Nutn!

[@chadwik4000]

Nuthin Fancy coming through with the honest review!

[@Antiqueanalytics]

I have been a subscriber since 2008…. I believe that you are one of the most honest reviewers on KZbin… That being said there are a couple of things: 1) You always tend to pan expensive weapons… Most of the time you do get what you pay for… I own a Knights Armament SR-15… I paid $1700 for it 15 years ago… It was a very expensive firearm back then. It still is if you can even find one… You totally panned this firearm… I have over 2000 rounds through it… It shoots sub moa every time… It eats any type of round you put in it… I have never had one malfunction, not one… 2) I own a Brugger and Thomet ACP 9… It’s one of the most accurate firearms that I own… It runs perfect… It was expensive… Brugger and Thomet makes high quality weapons… They are expensive… 3) The scope that you have on that weapon and the mount is questionable at best… Good quality glass can make a big difference in accuracy… 4)When you review a expensive item you tend to to nitpick it to death… The thing is you heap praise on guns like Kel Tec and I believe these are some of the worst firearms made…. They are of very poor quality and jam almost every round… So there is a bit of a disconnect to me… My point in this long response is not every expensive firearm is bad… Some are worth the money…

[@MountainPF]

@@Antiqueanalytics I get what you’re saying, sort of like buy once, cry once. But you also have to understand that Nutn is a reviewer that shows you the VALUE of the gun he’s reviewing. If the weapon is inexpensive, he will likely gloss over things that do not have any effect on accuracy or function; such as flimsy safeties, poor pistol grip designs, cheap feeling handguards, etc. If Nutn finds those things on a gun worth over $3000 wouldn’t you like to know before you bought one? Many people will look at a price of a gun and think “if it’s this expensive, it must be good”. As this video demonstrates, this is not always the case.

[@jbdoingjbstuff]

He compared it to the similarly priced MR762, Sig 716, SCAR. Picked all those above this heap.

[@lucsergerie1835]

I give Kudo to Nutnfancy after 15 years to fallowing you ! you never have changed one bit! i cancel my order thank you! i am also a 30 yrs aviator! Blue side up brother's!

[@pandafish5926]

For a year or so I was deciding on a high end (expensive) 7.62 rifle. The B&T was in the running, but the more vids I saw on it I realized it was a no. Got down to being between a scar 17, Daniel Defense, HK MR762, and LMT MARS-H. Handled all 4, and really liked the feel of the HK and LMT. Then I found a 13.5 LMT MARS-H on GB for half price, bought it, and love it, but it is quite heavy for sure, but shoots great. Killed two white tail deer last month with it. I'm happy.

[@samseven5260]

Good job bud! Thanks so much for taking the time to review this thing.

[@michaelx1809]

I bought a Sig 716i 3 years ago and it was worth it, so surprised on the accuracy i was able to get out of it. 2500 rds no issues.

[@brontoab1]

I love the honesty. Too many people talk about B&Ts like they are the end all be all of firearms.

[@jackmorrow427]

I know MY PSA PA10 with 20" heavy barrel is a crew serve weapon but I love it .....

[@Rooster_king]

Smith and Wesson M&P10 is still the best bang for the buck

[@8301TheJMan]

Yeah i got the APC 223, ridiculously expensive would be an understatement lol. However it's one of the best guns I've ever owned. Despite being waaaay over-priced, APC's are still some of the best guns one in the market currently. But to each his own i guess.

[@usernamealreadytaken770]

I was thinking of getting a Pro DMR until I found an ADM UIC 10a used for a good price. This video makes me feel better saving so much money on the ADM.

[@grimeye1]

Thanks nutn really appreciate you being the a constant in guntube and being real.

[@jonfritts268]

Commenting for @Nutn to get more engagement on his videos. Thanks for what you do!

[@sheridontrepagnieriv7897]

I’ll keep my Hk MR762

[@Caviarhound]

I have a B&T APC 45, and it's so stiff that after 1000 rounds, I still can't manipulate the bolt release (I can still use the charging handle, however). Yes, it's pretty heavy, too. That said, it's a keeper!

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

and this is exactly why i love you so much, you tell it like it is. you aren't afraid to ruffle feathers.

[@jonhurley7889]

I bought the apc9 and apc45 before ever trying one and thst was a big mistake. The mp5 is still the king and the apc9 just sits in my safe. I love the stuff b&t makes for the mp5 but dang they think there stuff is gold.

[@WIDGET738]

Same, bought the 'k' variant. Also tried/bought the MPX Copperhead. Both the Sig and B&T are total pieces of shit. Very expensive mistakes, but people will always justify their bad purchases. Cost doesn't mean BEST.

[@hickeyskustomresto]

You had me convinced it was bad pretty quick, but watched through most of it to hopefully help out with the algorithm Crap gun, still a great and honest review 👍

[@pxmnh316]

Thanks again Nutn for an honest gun review, it is much appreciated!

[@rsilvers129]

You tested a rifle optimized for accuracy in 50 mph winds and say it is too heavy for you and out of your price range.

[@Henry_Aguirre214]

@@rsilvers129 I agree. He also tested the old generation. The new one is Mlok at 6’clock and the handguard looks different. I have the 556 16.5 and I love it. Shoots so smooth.

[@JHypers]

Looks like a cheap knock-off of the Robinson XCR-M that somehow ended up heavier and over a grand more expensive.

[@coyoteodie4458]

First 14 seconds was personal!

[@SamuelA3]

"I would really like this review to be like 10 minutes because I hate this gun so much." LMFAO One of the best quotes I've heard since "surely this one will feed." (Utas 15)

[@vikingsoftpaw]

So for the Swiss premium price, what does the B&T do that a DPMS pattern AR10 doesn't? Or a M-14/M1A for that matter?

[@MidwestPapa_715]

Buy a matching receiver set or something similar with quality parts. Build it in a day and will shoot lights out for half or more.

[@davewebster5120]

PSA 308 Jakl for a quarter of the price. Thanks for Gunnies and TNP. I used to go to Gunnies all the time and it's awesome. They have some great western and working apparel, too.

[@showtime2629]

Another review on a gun that I could not possibly afford or practically use. I still will watch because I love Nutnfancy so much.

[@Fender18241]

B&t doesn't build guns to meet trends, they build guns to meet the needs of their foreign military contracts. Or in Carl Bruggers words "just because we can"

[@Hondatech26]

I've never looked very closely at these, and now I know I don't need to lol, thanks Nutn!

[@sig3ldunc4nI]

Thank you nutn for all the years dedicated to the community. Never heard of this company and I’ve been an enthusiast for a lot of years. I finally finished building and putting my ar through the tests so it’s about time to grab a sapr. Thinking of running a PSA pa10 gen 3. For the price you can’t go wrong although it’s a tad on the heavy side but at that price range you have to give up something. If it’s reliable and accurate it really is hard to complain.

[@sig3ldunc4nI]

By the way, have you and a buddy ever considered doing a podcast?

[@iLikeRandomfacts]

The 556 gun is the “ISO HEMLOCK” in the new modern warfare… confirm it rocks 😂

[@Xennial-en6kb]

I’ll stick with my Knights SR-25 APR and SR-25 ACC. Shot the 20” APR last week at targets between 400m to 800m and it did excellent with 175gr Federal GMM

[@HLDefender]

SR-25 Master Race checking in

[@EricBrownWins]

Didn't even know this gun existed. Wish I still didn't.

[@Bad_Rattle]

I’ve got a APC300 and APC9k. No issues on my end.

[@sawdust1898]

I don’t know going to patreon’s site to view videos, you should invest in the KZbin membership program and upload patron content to youtube for channel members only

[@DOOM_A-O]

Hey Nutn, I was looking at the Patreon, how exactly does that work? In the past I just paid a certain amount, but it says for yours that you charge per post and that I have to set a limit of what you will charge up to. So is the 5$ you mention enough to cover everything each month or what? (I am a poor)

[@timewave02012]

Somewhere I remember seeing B&T referred to as Swiss Kel-Tec.

[@NickBlazer-cf1vs]

😂

[@rabbitholereviews]

For that money I'd get an LMT MARS-H and some ammo/mags.

[@MidwestPapa_715]

DI is still kind of piston and self cleaning. Just look at it different. Just like people forget the carrier was the original forward assist, with the thumb index by the gas key ports. DI ain't going anywhere. Love piston systems also.

[@Excedrine]

Don't get me wrong, the Euros *usually* make some primo kit. It's the often ludicrous price tag that keeps me away. The mind boggles when it's also, apparently, bad. Been here since your FN 5.7 vids when YT still had 10-minute limits!

[@marzcapone9939]

Is it me, or is the gas block contacting the handguard? The entire block and piston looks oversized, I don't get it. I only speak in LMT-H.

[@TheWatchMker]

I started with a super light sapr and I believe in sawc but I’m still saying this. Anything below 12lbs doesn’t belong in the SAPR category. I’ve hiked 18 miles with my 12lb 24” 6.5 gasser for a match. Anything lighter than that and you aren’t making hits consistently under time. Just how it goes. Start with a 6lb gun, add a 1” barrel and nice scope, 15” handguard. There we are. Any lighter and it’s hard to get it done.

[@Amac1825]

I paid 2800 new for my b&t apc 308. Much smoother than my scar. And groups average 1-2moa depending on ammo.

[@8301TheJMan]

Right? You stop to think maybe he just got a bad gun?! My 223 is a phenomenal gun. Over-priced - yes, still still excellent

[@charlesmullins3238]

My ol dd5v3 I honestly would put against any .308 ar-10 in all departments and although there may be 1 or 2 somewhere that would honestly out perform it I don’t see many on here it hasn’t eclipsed. Handloads it’s well under 1”. I’ve got all the goodies fully dressed out $4200 and would pay it a thousand times for the performance I’ve seen. Did you review 1 recently..?

[@user-jv4ic8rh4d]

That thing weighs as much with a scope as my SCAR 17 with NF 2.5-10×42 ADM mount, acro p2 ariska mount, liberty mystix suppressor, bi-pod, and loaded mag. Yikes!! My belgian made (oww exotic 😂) Scar cost me $2600 and gets .75 MOA all day long with 168GR fed GMM.

[@Jameshoover753]

The new generation apc 308 weighs 7.8 lbs this review is inaccurate he’s using a 1st generation

[@WIDGET738]

Can't wait to see your review to justify your purchase! 😜

[@propblast82nd]

Thirty miles an hour winds is called a breeze in West Texas 😃

[@securitytv4603]

i know its piston but would like spring kinda odd sound

[@phatstackmack152]

Not a fan of the off oddball ARs Nutin, but that trigger looks f--kin clean man!!! Milspec works for me overall dude. It's not always better to reinvent the wheel Homes!

[@Limp_Bizkiteer]

Where can I get that hat, and does it come in M81 Woodland?

[@RnHarv-gg5oq]

Don’t have the 308 but I do love the apc10… after changing the trigger out

[@memememer9467]

I’ll stick with my Midwest industries AR-10

[@jackjmaheriii]

The be all end all of SAPRs is the MRGG and it’s perfect out of the box. Save your pennies and buy that.

[@GammaRayTrae]

I got an mcx spear in 6.8x51, it’s a chunk but it’s well balanced also. The recoil is less than a 308 but still similar. Shooting 135gr I’ve seen .8 - 1.3” groups. I’m a fan of the mcx which is why I got it and I do enjoy shooting it. Still it’s over priced. I think a fair price would be $3200

[@jbcustom3745]

I Have B&T APC9K, GHM9SD, and GHM 45, they are great PCC's for sure, but for a rifle caliber there are better choices then B&T

[@dmitrykarkov4747]

lol my AR build is 9lbs with an empty mag and I love it

[@talkingrock7011]

My Gen 2 Gig shoots great and so does my 516 Sig Thanks

[@AlanAhlman]

Does it really outperform a PTR-91, which is one third the price?

[@WIDGET738]

PTR is a GOAT. Just put a few mags of custom loads thru one yesterday. An FFL buddy has the nicest one I've ever seen, including on the web. Nice shooter, but very loud and lots of recoil... And heavy - definitely a bench gun.

[@brettharsanye5939]

Yup have 41 acres in Sundance Wyoming hopefully my bunker will be done in two years.

[@RB-ol9te]

Yay! Another Nutn video

[@user-ie1ij9nr7e]

Look at this madness in Colorado. SB25-034 Voluntary Do-Not-Sell Firearms Waiver.

[@bheckner]

That's a really expensive range toy. Wow 😳

[@sleigh4019]

Welcome to owning a piston gun baby !! Bulk up

[@iwillnotcomply007]

Did I miss the accuracy testing?

[@NickBlazer-cf1vs]

Apparently…it’s not. Or he would have gave it Kudos.

[@jgrady7779]

Nutn, have you ever considered testing one of the LMT MARS-H variants?

[@almostontimehero5415]

His time is limited. Buy an LMT then arrange to send it to him so he can test it. By the way, it's over $100 to send cause firearms are Priority mail only and it might get "lost" along the way. Oh well.

[@BabyFroG45]

Scar 17 still shining🍻

[@NihilistDad]

You always hear mythical stuff about b&t guns

[@DarkCatfish]

It's made in Switzerland so it has to be magical

[@withoutfurtheradoforever]

1:12 Twist? WTF?

[@WalterWild2]

Nutn could you do a browning black label medallion 380-1911?

[@Usmc0341]

Save over a G and go with the DDM5

[@Artstar2]

FYI- I have been a subscriber to your channel for over 10 years. In the last 3 years you have never been in my news feed.. It must be KZbin and gun related channels.