1 of 4, Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun First Shots: "Eat Lead" by Nutnfancy

The KelTec KSG shotgun rocks the desert in the new Nutnfancy "Eat Lead" Drill. Combining combat-style of shotgunning with some challenging pistol targets, Eat Lead is a fast-paced course that starts in a trench and winds through sage brush and juniper. Many opportunities emerge for both system and shooter failure, always providing excellent and real systems data for the viewer. This will be the world video premier of the KSG being ran like this. With its 7+7+1 mag tube systems, short bullpup configuration, double pistol grips, and lightweight, the KSG is a cutting edge design. We come up with a few solid ideas however to make it better. With crew PFIDude, PFIDad, and Chad from Kel-Tec, this Nutnfancy Crew steps up and locks in to find out how it stacks against the proven speed and reliability of a Winchester 1300 in the course. Add in the handgunning, the joking, the workout, the gear surprises (oh yeah, there's lots), and you have yourself another fun and exhausting Nutnfancy RunNGun course...Eat Lead./////////////////////// Perfect EAT LEAD run score is 36 (25 pt/hits, 5 pt speed run bonus, 3 pt no miss shotgun bonus, 3 pt handgun no miss bonus). Any HOSTAGE hits subtract 5 pts! ////////Note: Downloading the KSG in the initial runs is imperative for a good test. Running full tubes would not have explored the complicated reload/switchover process unless the course was lengthened to an expensive, tiring, and time consuming 30 rds! And keep in mind, I ran several runs with full power 00 Buckshot as well...try that with 30 rds... I dare you. ☺ As I show and discuss, the KSG is different than any other gun and requires understanding and practice. In later runs we run it full to demonstrate capabilities and gather data. I suggest any critics to this decision look to other sources for the standard armchair group think and non-critical assessment on this new product. TNP has never been a place for this. You will learn much more about the KSG here and how you the viewer could be expected to run the gun under some stress as a represented by different skill levels within the crew. /////////////////////Music: Licensed to TNP from www.square-recordings.com/

[@timothysmith2101]

Nutn and crew, Thanks for actually testing gear and showing testing in detail. Too many armchair experts on KZbin, love seeing the gear you recommend being used. Unbiased reviews are hard too find. Haters be damned. 9 times out of 10, I've been pleased with purchases made off of your recommendations.Keep up the good work.

[@MrKimberr]

They are awesome. He doesn't try to be short, but shows things how they were. These videos are better than tv!

[@jamesjefferson9228]

Looks damn fun. I'd be Chad LOL.

[@chadderick1]

@emvp That's the nicest thing anybody has said to me all day! Thanks you! I very much appreciate the support. TNP treated me like gold out there and I had some serious fun with those guys. Thanks for tuning in and being a part of the fun! -Chad

[@daconqueror101]

I have to say this is one of the best videos out there for one reason. You point out all the problems that can occur with a new gun. No matter how many features and improvements new guns have over old guns, you need to test it. For example, the new ACR and the SCAR were supposed to improve on the AR15 platform, but even they have critical issues. That's why run-n-gun testing is a must. I hope KelTec takes up your advice, because the idea behind that shotgun is great.

[@Luieburger]

Nothing can hide from a solid run n' gun course. My buddy and I went out and set up our own run n' gun for fun and ended up learning a lot about our systems that we never would have found out otherwise. I think the KSG needs some fine tuning, but KelTek will get it there. The PF9 didn't come along until after they had made several other compact pistols. I'm glad KelTek is pushing the limits and innovating.

[@4stringdork]

Chad is an awesome dude! Nothing says "customer service" better than someone runnin' and gunin' with you. Fantastic!

[@shellmaker10]

Props to Chad and Kel-Tec. It takes a lot of sack to do what is essentially field testing a new and revolutionary system in front of the general public. Design on the drawing board is one thing, working out that design in the real world is another. Exposing things that need to be tweaked in either weapon design or in system training can only make the KSG a stronger platform. Another great vid. Thanks Nutn and the gang.

[@masterkeep]

Thanks for reviewing the KSG & the RFB. I love the idea of a shorter weapon with full length power. I had seen ads for the RFB before and really wanted to see how it would do & then was loving it when I saw early stuff on the KSG. Kudos to TNP, Kel-Tec, & to Chad.

[@dbtrackz33]

Its nice to see videos with people of different skill levels. Its also nice to see how everyone at some point struggles/learns/overcomes. Most videos online they edit those things out to make you think they are Rambo, but in the real world, its not always so easy. Well done.

[@ADHuss1]

I love the fact that you have a Kel-Tec Rep right there and you are saying what you don't like about his companies gun and he is listening to you, and he knows that people out in the public are going to see this. I own a Kel-Tec and it is a challenge to shoot and I have issues with it, but I know what they are and I carry it every day, all day. Knowing a guns issues helps to manage it, so it isn't a problem. I want to know my gears issues sooner rather then later.

[@PlatoClause]

LOL, the Kel-Tec forum moderator at KTOG is spazzing out that this was not a perfect commercial for Kel-Tec. His hot air is likely hurting the KSG more than anything from this awesome video. Thank you Nutn for specifically not making a boring predictable ad like many other youtubers (and all Gun Mags).

[@jeffersoncompany]

Vid intro- one of your best, Nutn. Great music choice, builds energy and preps you for what's coming. Great to finally see a video of the KSG "in action", and not just being shot static. Looking foward to part2.

[@WeedSmoker69]

this is a first generation KSG. the 2nd and 3rd generation are perfect with high brass, they're just unforgiving when short stroked.

[@Scabota]

Chad is pretty damn cool. You guys are keeping it real right in front of him, and he is taking the criticism like a champ. Keep up the good work.

[@rsll510]

I don't watch TV, I watch TNP. I don't want the videos any shorter, just keep them coming Nutn!

[@uncleben03]

EAT LEAD BABY!!! TNP never fails to impress, glad to have Chad along for the ride!

[@Imetalman2000]

Props for kel-tec for actually joining nuttin fancy and putting there product on the line.

[@emvp]

You're entire Kel-Tec series of videos have been epic. A reference standard review of Kel-Tec's new offerings. These are some of your best videos to date. Thank you for all of your hard work along with the work of others in the TNP crew; it is much appreciated. Chad from Kel-Tec is a also a great addition. His demeanor and interaction with you, PFIDude and PFIDad makes for extremely informative and captivating entertainment. Chad and Kel-Tec are stand-up people. Thank you again.

[@LifegrindX]

If you don't like these videos and drills ... you're not a real man. Hats off to the Nutnfancy crew!!!

[@CampfireTalk]

I am totally digging the shotgun course that you set up. Looks like a fun drill to run. I know you've said it before, but thanks for restating the importance of leaving the land BETTER than when you got there. Great stuff guys!

[@ima5150]

Nutn is what all shooters should be like. Fun and happy to shoot but ready to take care of things like safety and the environment.

[@nutnfancy]

@ADHuss1 I am uploading Part 2 right now and I address how honest Chad is as a rep for KelTec. I loved that and it creates a very synergetic (big word) exchange that can improve the products. There were no games played here as you note. I too find little use for infomercials on products. If I tabletop something and am excited about it then it really does rock (as far as I can tell). Thank you!

[@PracticalFirearms]

Dude awesome video. I love this KSG shotgun despite how much different it is to what most of us are used too. Thanks TNP for bringing this to us and showing the gun in its true form. I think with enough round for brake in and more practice you guys will become monsters with this shotgun. I really don't see a problem with re-loading the gun and I think a true test will be to run it at its max 14+1 cause that will show how its firepower excels over anything else you guys have there. Thanks again.

[@nutnfancy]

@ThreeLineRifle Me too. You will see in later episodes we are quite taken with the KSG. I has a few points that need improvement. For example, I note in a later part that the chamber/mag loading area has a steep bevel that catches the rounds as they are shoved in. This happened several times and you will need some stress to discover this. A more gradual bevel is needed.

[@nutnfancy]

@roscoe9988 Thanks, great comment. We were all very stoked about the pump and its fast! You will see its speed pick up in other runs. However the mag tube switch over continues to take everyone by surprise; you will always shoot it dry and then there's that moment of "huh?" Train and it will become more of a known quantity. As I annotate, think of the switch over as a reload because that's what it is. And no you can switch back and forth even when loaded. Expect confusion between tubes.

[@Praetorian27]

Man, there is no more beautiful sound in all of firearms, than a racking shotgun!

[@rbhusson]

Thanks for the quick vid. I think it is great that Keltec alowed you to do this great course testing even before the gun is able to buy. I think the gun is a great idea and like all guns it takes testing anc changes to get the bugs worked out. Great course good guns. Keep up the good work.

[@HazeyWolf1337]

Thanks Chad, Kel-Tec, Nutn' & Crew. Dual tubes w/the ability torun one buck/slugs or non-lethal is a great option.

[@skyhop]

That's exactly why I haven't switched away from the adjustable sights on the five seven! Once I dialed it in, picking off empty shotgun hulls at 25-30 yard was easy. I can't do that with any other pistol with anywhere near as easily. It just makes everything feel a lot easier to put a bullet on. Still experimenting with my glock 23, it amazed me my first range trip, even better than my 20 with competition sights and a 2.5LB trigger.

[@duffman8891]

I'm stoked for the KSG, it looks a great gun. Ket Tec is a great company too, they have put alot of work into dealing with all the stupid US export regulations so they can make their products available to us Canadians. Look forward to seeing Nutn run the KSG.

[@ArmedVegan]

What a cool gun! I think it would make an excellent home defense gun with the selectable tubes, with training on knowing how/when to reload etc. I really like the camera angles of the swinging around over the shoulder with the shotgunning. Great coordination on the directions and safety! This Keltec shoot has really been a massively enjoyable adventure. Thanks for posting!

[@optoomistic]

it is inspiring to see a manufacturer develop and test a product virtually "live" and invite the opinions of "t.n.p.ers" into the into the design of said product, in the comments of a youtube vid none the less!! Kel-tec must be a unique co. to have not built a wall of secrecy and p.r. b.s. between the customer and corp. THIS IS INNOVATION! pay attention corporate America. BIG UPS!

[@nutnfancy]

@SpartanCombativesGrp Gold star commentary...spot on!

[@Ramcharger.Outdoors]

I love how many shells it can hold. Great way to innovate!

[@elesjuan]

@nutnfancy I actually really enjoy the extra commentary, discussion, and $hit talking. It might add to the time and some people might not like that, but I think it adds great value to the production. Don't change what you're doing!

[@ThreeLineRifle]

A good, simple course for the KSG. I look forward to buying one for backup. I would like to see a later video when the KSG is perfected. I hope Keltec listens to your suggestions because they seem spot on.

[@CMDB201]

Wow! This one is absolutely entertaining. I wish I could be there, oh wait, it was like I was! :) Thank you so much for spending the time to do this and share!

[@communistsrlsrs1]

Seriously BEST TNP intro ever...killin it w/ the electro theme

[@naicella]

Kel-Tec you guys are amazing. Keep up the good work. It takes some massive ca-hones to publicly show the KSG in the TNP run and gun.

[@folms110]

Let the KSG run full ammo. That is why it is so tactical and innovative! Plus in an urban combat setting indoors, the size of the keltec gives the advantage, which can't be simulated in this drill. Thanks for the video nutn, been waiting for a week to see the ksg in action. Great Job! Much better than watching a video of the gun at a range....yawn.

[@Zebrahead6000]

I love how compact that bullpup design makes this shotty. Thanks Nutn!

[@gravityprone]

Nutn, your vids are awsome! Informetive and funny. This Kel-Tec series has been the best I've seen. I've been a huge fan since I stumbled onto your SOG Gov-Tac review. You cover all bases, and that is invalueable. PFI Dad, thanks for representin. Great shooting. Old dudes rule!

[@nutnfancy]

@dickmadison Thanks a lot Mr Madison and I'm always privileged to have you in the comments. I must say that SW 1911 #108303 made me look good...sweet shooting and very accurate. I could have shot that thing all day, just a dream. As I mention in my reviews, the full weight on that gun makes it a range king.

[@chadderick1]

@Blutgang I learned quite a bit and took the info back home to our engineers. A lot of the ideas I've seen here and with TNP are great ones and we always listen to you guys and appreciate all of the suggestions. Some stuff has been adopted, some things are just too difficult to change given the financial aspect in this particular design and some ideas are just mechanically impossible. Also, we understand that not everyone will be COMPLETELY satisfied. There is no perfect firearm. -Chad

[@twa520]

Yet another awesome vid from TNP! Just saw the KSG on the Keltec website...The future of tactical shotguns. And Chad is right it just looks cool!

[@Blutgang]

I am getting a KSG no matter what. As soon as I saw it on Keltecs website I knew I had to have one. All of TNPs videos just add to that lock.

[@scotth2431]

A Run and Gun with a shotgun that is still a prototype = Really cool.

[@nutnfancy]

@88warwolf Great choice in 1911s...I think you will like it.

[@tacticaltrigger]

Only Nutn would get his hands on and review the KSG before everyone else. Nice.

[@LogicalTerror]

Thanks Nutn! From what i'm seeing i like the KSG, have to wait for part two but I'm pretty sold on it!

[@bobsolla]

nutnfancy,that`s crazy!i`am in shorts,t-shirts,and flip flops here in florida.and it`s snowing there!love that kel tec ksg!time for another shotgun!

[@Nygle123]

I can almost smell those junipers. What an awesome course! Makes me so homesick.

[@MrBillTroop73]

I am happy to see the KSG prototype being put through it's paces, and I like all of the cool features. It has a LOT of potential. I feel the #1 priority is to have the production KSG feed any brand of 12g ammo, all of the various lengths and loads, FLAWLESSLY. If it can't do that, it's not combat / home defense worthy. In a WOROL or SHTF type of senario, all of that magazine capacity wouldn't do me any good if it wont feed whatever I can scrounge up after my favorite loads are gone.

[@wojnarowski12]

Good shooting and challenging run, can't wait for another part!

[@BENLINUZ]

Nutn you have been real dude like you always have been in the past. If a system sucks (GUN) you show it. Since you started this series my opinion of Kel-tec has changed its going further over to the hype factor on the suckometer.

[@nutnfancy]

@Emery98 I noted no trigger issues. Didn't test the "hold trigger down" and pump rounds out either. That's a worthless feature anyhow...no one will hit anything that way.

[@GradytheScot]

@HighValueWarrior I have seen these guys always putting on the safeties on their guns during the drill while moving to and from targets and I have not seen them point the firearms in unsafe directions. As far as the egos go these guys joke around but Chad has never been overly defensive about his shooting or Kel Tecs products. As far as Kel Tec goes, they have been making firearms for all of 16 years and they are already the biggest innovator in the US. They are willing to push boundaries!

[@chadderick1]

@TheCrushmaster Crushmaster! God bless YOU! Thanks for being here again :) -Chad

[@ninja5861]

I think the best thing about the 2 tubes is you can keep different loads in the different tubes. Buck in one, slugs in the other

[@TheCivilizdKaoz]

here i am enjoying an awesome vid, then i scroll down and see nothing but hate... people need to stop hating on everyone and just fucking enjoy the scenery. if you dont like it, its the internet, there's a fuck off button to your 2 o' clock. love your vids nutn keep em coming.

[@SecretSpetsnaz]

I think it's awesome that you run so many weapon systems.

[@duragezic]

I thought everyone did a quite good job running that KSG for not being familiar with it. I haven't run it but looking at these videos, sure there's some things that could probably be tweaked, but I think it seems pretty solid and a very neat design to get that kind of capacity in a shotgun! Thanks nutn and TNP crew!

[@nutnfancy]

@ylism As shown in the photos, I run the KSG in upcoming runs. The philosophy on the Eat Lead Drill was well thought out (heck I stayed up til 3am doing it!): pit the KSG up against a proven, conventional, and fast pump. Later on the Saiga-12. My first run with Winchester 1300 is a way to keep the testing real and provides a baseline of sorts: beat my time and score with the 1300. Read sidebar in regards to downloading KSG, it served a good purpose. Watch other vids for the excitement

[@acuet]

I would have to say I really enjoyed this video. I learned a lot about the weapon: do's/don't/will-won'ts. I think this is the first REAL videos on the KSG and really DO BELIEVE that Kel-Tec will 'correct', adjust, and see items of concerns/suggestions. I was torn between Benelli M4 and KSG. Honestly, (FOR ME) I don't think I like the multi-barrel option after all-nor do I like the manual action. I think i'll just go with the Benelli-Thx Nut'n for keeping them honest and real.

[@notnimify]

You guys crack me up " Once you have your lunch money." So fricken funny

[@nutnfancy]

@dhena81 Good commentary, thanks. That loading technique just may work; lots of experimentation needed with sling interface and more shooting. We show several methods here. The SW 1911 ruled the day out there and it just outstanding, love it. It's Model #108303. I always do several tests concurrently of course.

[@TheExalider]

LOVE the sound of that KT action.

[@rasierzeug]

Great camera shot at 19:25, where the brass right pops through the cameras field of view!

[@Delorean2867]

One of the most entertaining run-n-guns I've watched in a while. Awesome firearms and killer course. Nice job!

[@Redpitbull44]

I love love LOVE this video!!!! Great work with the background music. Nutn, you are becoming quite the technical expert when it comes to video production. Cudos bro. Just frickin AWESOME!!!! Thanks for finally getting this one out there. Hopefully you get part 2 of the KSG out SOON!!!!!

[@teamvegas05]

Awesome work nutn. I really like that ksg. Like any new design there is always a familiarization period with it. I think after a few "eat lead" rounds 90% of your "training issues" will be gone. Chad you rock bro! Way to hold your own with the crew! I'd take you on my team any day of the week!

[@ignoreboco]

That first run was sick!!!!!! Nutn you're lethal dude!!

[@nickwoo2]

@pieceofsoap Yep good addition, but I meant an indicator that pops up near the sight line so you know when you still have the last round in the chamber. I doubt that while you are looking down the sights that you can see those slits easily. I may be wrong though. We will see.

[@nickwoo2]

The only thing more i want on the ksg is a automatic tube changer for when one tube is out or like a little orange piece that pops up at the start of the rail to indicate empty tubes.

[@Starfireaw11]

Great video guys, keep it up! For a pre-production weapon, the KSG does really well. I'm confidant that with a little more practice it'll be running really well. As has already been pointed out, with full tubes it wouldn't need to be reloaded at all on that course and would dominate. I just wish I could get one here in Australia :(

[@Wabisuke05]

@PlatoClause I agreed, was waiting for the shotgun segment and was happy when i logged in this AM. Great work as always TNP!!!!!!!!

[@TylerB_AL]

I love how you put so much thought into your course of fire. Great job nutn.

[@justinangle4209]

love the teckno music and the tac-type reviews! KUTGW!

[@Blechi]

really love those long term, up hill, gonna walk out, videos u did ...

[@Latenightcrewdave]

Love the series , it's like being on the course w/ a bunch a funny guys. Great course & good fun!

[@fighting17chicago]

I couldn't help but feel like I would be doing the same performance as Chad! The freaking pressure of the Nut & Gun (Run and Gun!!) would get to anyone until they spend time doing them often. Time to try this out myself!

[@BrendonKinsey]

great course nutn! Love the arcs of fire you have in there.

[@maxrocks19]

the Kel-Tec KSG may be the coolest shotgun to ever be legal in Canada!

[@Roachman22]

wow i read some of that moderator's comments, and they all had something to do with how you weren't being fair to the guns, that they shouldn't be 100% out of the box. He also said that you were making the KSG look worse than the Win because you started them evenly loaded, but the KSG wasn't at its max cap. I understand his loyalty to his brand, but that was just overboard.. Well keep up the good work! Love what you've done so far!

[@outcry27]

To everyone saying they wish the KSG magazine switching was automatic, it's stated very clearly in the video you just watched that it has to be manual for ATF legality reasons.

[@JACMAN02]

beside the like button, for nutnfacy's vids there should be an "obsessive love" button!

[@hgghhable]

LOVE the pistol transition

[@nutnfancy]

@BENLINUZ Thanks for noticing and yes we keep it real in TNP. KT is an outstanding brand and I really think any deficiencies should and will be corrected by them eventually. Some would prefer wave their flags at the parade and tell the emperor how well dressed he is and therefore keep status quo, but I don't work that way. Improve it, perfect it, then it will deservedly reign as a masterpiece of design. It's almost there, just a few tweeks as we will discuss.

[@AndreMT2720]

Nutnfancy! I just had THE best idea! I'm assuming that you may have watched an episode of TOP SHOT. You have to get on the TV and show these guys whats up.

[@porkycorker7674]

Oh man, that comment about the KSG coming in mid 2015... Here I am with a new KSG, purchased last weekend!

[@02GMCdmax]

Dudes love this run n gun, probably my favorite one yet. The course is sick. And screw those antelopes! Chad is one of the best guests on the TNP!

[@TheLastSwagurai]

YES. Would definitely recommend for any WROL or SHTF loadout. But more realistically for home defense.

[@chadderick1]

@Emery98 The issue was a trigger reset. We corrected that in January after a lot of input from SHOT 2011. Thanks for being here! -Chad

[@nateusmcsvt]

great vid guys

[@HitOrMissEtc]

Really great vid once again. So many things go through your mind when there is a failure. Really shows that without proper habits/repetition you lose so much time...could be your life.

[@MrJoeyBoombotz]

So Cool! You aren't Nutnfancy.....you're BATMAN!!!! Awesome video...fantastic shooting. I love this country!

[@chadderick1]

@88warwolf That 1911 is awesome! Glad you treated yourself to one. Great purchase, man. -Chad

[@ADHuss1]

Nutnfancy Thanks for the reply, I will be trying to comment as much as I can and get a spot on one of you run 'n' guns one week end. I just had Terry G. do a trigger job on my new SR-22 and Mk II .22/45. He did a great job!!! I know you think the SR-22 is to heavy and it is heavy but it is my practice gun for my FN-FAL .308 match rifle and it is also really heavy.

[@Scorpiuszeroone]

After seeing the KSG in action I don't know if I could ever be content with a traditional shotgun!