The Ferguson Case, Verbatim | Op-Docs | The New York Times

This short video juxtaposes the reenacted testimony of two key witnesses in the shooting of the unarmed black teenager Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, MO.
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[@GageFilms]

Verbatim went from a purely comedic series to a dead serious drama.

[@WilfChadwick]

The NYT 2022 director's cut is priceless!

[@brianchappel4187]

16min and 46seconds is how long it takes to recount an interaction that took less then 60 seconds... life really can change in a single moment.

[@vascodegama5829]

Brian Chappel wow sounds like you finally got some thoughts going. How did it feel to finally think? 😉

[@fawnjoe9669]

vasco de gama this might be a joke but still pretty rude.

[@Yeeren]

Or end in a single moment.

[@hottesttracks8055]

THE "GUYS' NAME IS LAKEITH STANFIELD. one of the best actors working today

[@GC-yw1mn]

He’s so underrated. Knives Out, Atlanta, Get Out. I hope he gets more work.

[@kseke25]

Oh, so this IS Lakeith?

[@daltonwill4218]

you probably dont care but if you guys are bored like me atm you can stream all the latest movies on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my brother for the last few months =)

[@dawsonbenedict6984]

@Dalton Will Yea, been using instaflixxer for since december myself :D

[@empresserica]

Indeed !

[@brucehuntjr6472]

The actor playing Dorian Johnson is so pro. Really good acting. Forgot a couple of times it was scripted

[@WISHBONEL7]

For real

[@Contradae]

Yeah, he's actually getting some roles now in more well-known productions

[@YoungBoy-rc1ro]

Oooooooo

[@Bj-re4wt]

He bout to fall out of character when the cameras start flashing

[@melissamassaline219]

He played in Get Out

[@onthespoke2]

Yeah okay but what exactly is a "photocopier"?

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

G+ is terrible They used those in WW2 I think

[@reyg7028]

G+ is terrible Hahaha

[@onee]

We just call it a Xerox.

[@nicolasrios1231]

Ask the chicken.

[@jonslg240]

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING.. IN YOUR OFFICE.. THAT YOU CAN PUT A PRINTED PAPER IN.. AND IT'LL PRODUCE A COPY.. *A COPY!!* OF THE DOCUMENT YOU PLACED IN IT! "Oh..you mean a xerox?"

[@williamlowry8809]

Who else recognizes an actor from Get Out?

[@littlegirlblue6143]

“an actor” sis its Lakeith Steinfield!!!

[@nicocas3583]

I recognize "crazy eyes" from Orange is the New Black playing the attorney.

[@TheSycaman]

Lakeith Stansfield

[@psychowordsmith]

Atlanta baby!!

[@aubriewilliams880]

I know him from Atlanta

[@ckotcher1]

It’s so surreal to see these really good actors especially Lakeith Stanfield and the guy playing officer Wilson, acting out this stuff that happened in my city

[@WilfChadwick]

Should have picked a black alfa guy to play the cop. The Black Community needs positive role models, especially after this 'murder'

[@WilfChadwick]

Just placed a sarcastic comment. Not sarcastic, coolest name yet! Roller Girl. Have a Good one.

[@WTFBUTWHY]

Wait wtf. These were actors ? 😂 I was listening while cutting the grass

[@TheWalkingDavid]

I was a grand juror in this film :) Uzo Aduba is extremely friendly, and it was great to get tot meet her and work with her. Same with Brian Geraghty!

[@queniliboutell8864]

It's so silly!

[@johnleschenkoo8]

The Walking David kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHO5f3SKet55lck So much left out

[@billbradleymusic]

Too bad that it's an actual story. Pure fiction. Someone with privileged to have the knowledge of film production put this skit together. Not bad work. Fully made up.

[@Mr4one6]

I'm holding you responsible for not indicting

[@novascotiaskater1868]

Lucky!!

[@michtig]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the attorney is crazy eyes from orange is the new black

[@amarakanneh6628]

msdhark I was looking for someone to mention that

[@YoshiXO]

Yes we noticed but the acting is so good. Love my Boston bae Uzo

[@zachmorgan6982]

Sooooo true

[@mrslywwilliams313]

@@YoshiXO she is so beautiful!

[@joshspeck3463]

Whats clear to me from watching this reenactment is that human memory is extremely unreliable and i dont think either recollection of events explains exacty what happened

[@l.a.french3063]

That's true, memory is very unreliable. Especially after some time has passed. If you look at the hard evidence though, it seems to line up with the officer's account of events.

[@lasura]

From the re-enactment the cop describes it too quickly, with too much detail to be recollected. He has it all recited.

[@ye6942]

Lasura yeah, it’s a testimony. Of course he has it recited

[@johnmorrell3187]

@@lasura that's normal for a deposition, both people have lawyers to advise them

[@FerEssence]

They were describing the exact same thing with different perspectives. ? Did y'all watch a completely different video ? How could this young man possibly not rely the memory of something so incredibely traumatic or even if he cant exactly remember, his raw emotion has certainly something to say.

[@danielrobinson9270]

The actor playing Dorian Johnson looks just like him. I keep thinking it is him. Great acting!

[@justinfrahm4935]

He is in a TV show called Atlanta

[@DwayneIsKing]

And get out

[@aarond9563]

I'm surprised this doesn't have more views

[@portewan4684]

I'm surprised too. I've already contributed my one view to the video.

[@flipnotrab]

Because people realize it’s a worthless point anymore. Would be even more interesting to see ALL the other grand jury “witnesses” that had their “stories” proven completely FALSE (one of them wasn’t even IN St. Louis area at the time!) and the FEW that came forward and told the truth of what they saw. Sad day all around. Life lost and lives changed forever over what? Walking in the street and stealing cigars??

[@MsSPLIFFETTE]

hidden jewel i jus discovered 2day... i show videos like these 2 my boys, so they know how 2 handle the demon when faced!! i hate it, but it's necessary!!!

[@drmorcoch9338]

my guess is actors can make their case more genuine than it really is. i myself skipped parts of this video

[@drmorcoch9338]

@San Diago honestly, if you don't want to get profiled, don't do the crime. there is a disproportionate amount of blacks that behave badly that is giving other blacks a bad rap and i know that from experience. black golfers however, for reasons i can't explain are the nicest people on the golf course.

[@smexyunicorn8149]

crazy eyes is really moving up on the world

[@zachmorgan6982]

This is very well done and put together!

[@WilfChadwick]

The NYT 2022 director's cut is priceless!

[@FreshLevWhite]

Thank you for creating this.

[@fmaz1952]

Came here after the photocopier. I was happier over there... this is sad.

[@boyreason9213]

Less than 1 min? Woh! I was way off. I thought maybe 10mins

[@zigerot82]

Adrenalin. The physical actions described by both parties gives this at least 7 mins.

[@chrishernandez8504]

What about the other three witness ? ( two of whom where black ) that collaborated the officer story

[@peletsoivre9110]

You mean "corroborated", right?

[@christopherbriggs9526]

New York times

[@jeffk3570]

That was intense.

[@MilA-eh3gf]

Officer Wilson's actor is also incredible

[@MilA-eh3gf]

Just watched Netflix's Extremely Wicked, Shocking Evil and Vile, and he's in there! (all bearded up so took me a while to realise it's him)

[@tomseadon9965]

Mil A He also starred in “ The Hurt Locker”, & “We Are Marshall”. Very talented actor.

[@undefinedd1147]

Mil A seems like a standard white guy to me

[@Sputz3]

Just can’t stand to see so many good comments on the black actor huh? Just had to chime in with your little “What about him!” comment SMH Fking pathetic.

[@jamesronald7868]

@@Sputz3 but did he not put on a good performance? Thats all im asking, doesnt matter if im 11 months late to this. To acknowledge that Officer Wilsons actor did well on his part is not in any way an attempt to deride or downgrade Dorian's actors performance. It is simply an complement, not an insult

[@GeahkBurchill]

Man, Stanfield is a captivating actor.

[@MazorKuziaki]

This was done really respectfully.

[@lordenlightenedluciferian]

The most unprecedented drama of an real life reenactment of real life! Awesome!

[@jacker372]

All for some 1$ cigars

[@peaou]

smoking kills?

[@dabooser1048]

Right, if he had just paid for them non of this would have happend.

[@dathunderman4]

Da Booser well that’s the thing, I know that obviously stealing cigarillos shouldn’t be punished by death, but whenever you make that decision to steal/rob, you may have to be cognizant of such risks. It’s like how some of the liquor store owners started going crazy and shot people for stealing candy bars and sodas, you never know what might happen when you make that choice to steal from somebody

[@politereminder6284]

@@dathunderman4 I saw a statement by the the police chief saying that the police stop was _unrelated_ to the cigarillos at the time. I don't know when this narrative was twisted and changed, but I found it interesting. I wish I could find the link, but

[@haydnevans8616]

@@politereminder6284 Yes the police officer stopped them for walking in the middle of the road. It was then he realised one of them was holding the cigarillos. He didn't get killed for the cigarillos. He got killed for punching a police officer in the face and wrestling for his gun. If you think the killing was unlawful. Ask yourself this, what would you do if someone 6 feet 4 and weighing 292 pounds punched you in the face and then tried to take your gun off you.

[@melizmatea3843]

The acting in this is really good - so good that I actually looked up the actors bios. I was very impressed, especially by Keith Stanfield, although in the last few seconds Brian Geraghty was just amazing.

[@kodiak6198]

@@shaunapalmer5913 hi

[@youngsuit]

Lakeith has my favorite career of anyone right now.

[@bolt4694]

As a high school teacher in the area I can say there are scores of Michael Browns walking the halls of our schools.

[@151balance]

The acting was fire

[@TheWalkingDavid]

I was in this short as one of the Grand Jurors. All of these actors were top notch, and better yet, extremely kind to everyone.

[@piglizzle1402]

Did you and the rest of the cast have to compose yourself from laughing having to hear the actor portraying Dorian Johnson spew his false narrative lies?

[@joycelebaron2582]

I'm not making any judgments. In my town I know that some of the cops are real a-holes and I'm white, middle-aged (well, if I live to 124). But this one cop who came WHEN I CALLED THEM (because I thought I heard prowlers but it was actually animals who had come down from the woods) treated me with such disrespect in front of my own house that I finally answered back with "Oh yeah, FU!" I thought I had really done it and would be taken in or worse, but they just kept on disparaging me. (We had about a 5-year history when my mother was going senile and kept calling them and telling them she was afraid of me and they believed her - and they were sick of dealing with us - until she really lost it and people realized that she really needed to be in a home and I was vindicated) So I understand what I did was stupid, knowing the cops in my town and I believe that many cops consider African American young men 'thugs' like a certain someone likes to say. But having said that, in the re-enactment the witness described fear of the cops, as in 'the cops are up the street, the cops are on the next block, be careful.' I'm just wondering why then, when the cop rolled up and they were in the middle of the road and told them (yes, probably very aggressively and with cuss words like the incident I witnessed myself) But I wonder why they just didn't get out of the road. Do you think it was a variation of my incident, where they were just sick of the treatment and wasn't going to take it any more? (Plus their masculinity could have been in question in their opinion and they weren't going to wimp out in front of this white cop) Who knows? But that was my only question. I can see it both ways. If you're afraid of the cops, just get out of the road when they tell you. But I do understand that after a while when you think you've been treated unfairly you just forget about the danger and just say FU.

[@sirving1297]

Michael Brown had just strong arm robbed a convenience store and then tried to assault and take the gun of a police officer. He was, by all definitions, a "thug". Obama administration's black attorney General did a massive investigation into this and found Darren Wilson innocent of wrongdoing. Multiple black witnesses gave accounts that said Michael Brown hit Officer Wilson and tried to take his gun.

[@aaronalviar9137]

Totally avoidable on both sides.. very sad. I don't blame the cop for feeling threatened bit he fired alot of shots...one thing positive out of this tragedy is body cams. The media didn't help either.

[@arrowhead-6a521]

It was a screwed series of events, hard to deny that. That being said the number of shots is something I know comes across as shocking to a lot of people. In any military or police training I've received I was taught to fire until the threat ceases, but that you're almost guaranteed to never fire only one. You'd be surprised how many hits a person can take and still keep going. Not saying who's right and who's wrong, just trying to give a bit of insight.

[@joshua_tobler]

Legally speaking, the use of deadly force is justified when five components are present: imminence, innocence, proportionality, reasonableness, and (sometimes) avoidance. If Michael Brown went for the gun, he was definitely posing an immanent threat of deadly force that any reasonable person would recognize, and to which a proportional response would encompass force up to and including deadly force. Thus the components of imminence, proportionality, and reasonableness are met. If Michael Brown did NOT go for the gun, there is an open question as to whether the struggle in the car represents a deadly level of force. In my opinion it still does constitute deadly force, as people die from pugilism all the time, but the question is actually moot unless you can PROVE that Michael Brown did not go for the gun. Because the defendant has the presumption of innocence, the burden of evidence is on the prosecution to demonstrate that this version of events is untrue. As far as I can tell, this was not sufficiently demonstrated. Officer Wilson, not acting as a civilian, had no duty to retreat, thus the element of avoidance does not apply in this case. What remains to be proven is innocence, by which we mean that the wrongful use of force was not initiated by the person claiming self-defense. While the confrontation was initiated by Officer Wilson, this was within the legitimate scope of his duties, and thus the element of innocence is also met. While we have satisfied all five components of justified use of force, we have not completely exonerated Darren Wilson, since the confrontation in the car is a separate confrontation from the one that took place outside of the car. As far as the law is concerned, the moment Michael Brown fled the car, the imminent threat to Darren Wilson ended, and so did his justification for use of deadly force. Up until this point, Darren Wilson has done nothing wrong (unless, again, you can prove Michael Brown never went for the gun). The question that remains to be answered is whether Michael Brown presented a second threat of deadly force to Darren Wilson when he turned around to face him. If Darren Wilson's version of events is correct, Michael Brown's actions can be (reasonably) interpreted as an (imminent) threat of deadly force (to which the use of deadly force constitutes a proportional response), which Darren Wilson did not initiate (thus rendering him innocent of incitement). Thus Darren Wilson's version of events meets all necessary components of justified use of force in the second altercation, as well. Once again, the law affords the defendant a presumption of innocence, which means the burden of evidence is on the prosecution to demonstrate that Officer Wilson's version of events is incorrect. Apparently the prosecution did not do so to the satisfaction of the Grand Jury. Were this case to go to trial, the prosecution would have a very difficult time proving that this narrative was untrue beyond a reasonable doubt. The decision not to indict was the correct decision based on the evidence that was brought to bare in these proceedings.

[@eddiethinker1775]

Joshua Tobler, I am truly grateful that you actually took the time to write all that out. Thank you.

[@delfonstephens4289]

R

[@3daypriest]

Did I miss the testimony where Brown’s fingerprints were on the gun?

[@flipnotrab]

Charles Crandall you should be FBI profiler being you can tell race from a KZbin comment. The public NEEDS your services! 🙄

[@xandro2445]

@Charles Crandall or because the LAW doesn't care what color you are.

[@nageeb96]

this kid needs to go to holywood and be a big star .he is a great act.i wonder if is a famous actor.

[@justinfrahm4935]

He is in a TV program called Atlanta

[@morganwoolford2963]

juan guevara that’s the joke

[@FACEgod_]

he's been in a lot of films, most recent is Sorry to Bother You. great movie.

[@pb9400]

His not a Kid, he was cast to portray a teen in this clip. The man is almost 30

[@nicocas3583]

Too clean cut for this role. Doesn’t have the thug thing down because that is exactly what the person he’s playing is.

[@Fede_uyz]

What do you mean by "spell" ?

[@sjuvanet]

wow this was 16 minutes and it flewwww by

[@vonnababeimyamansfantasy8436]

Took less than 1 minute

[@johnbmitchell22]

Unreal isn't it? A worldwide catalyst took less than 60 seconds to go down.

[@fiveguys5337]

He tried to grab the cops guns

[@dangerranger2736]

Johnson's testimony was obliterated by the evidence. He said that the tires on the car were screeching, however, no skid marks were found on the road. He said that Wilson grabbed Brown by the throat and could see Wilson's muscles flexing as he was choking Brown even though Brown sustained no injuries to his throat and Wilson's DNA was not found on Brown's throat. He said that Wilson was attempting to pull the 300 lb Brown into the car window on top of himself (ludicrous) and that Brown never hit Wilson even though Wilson had bruising and swelling on his face and scratches on his neck. He said that Brown never touched the gun and that Wilson fired the first shot out the window and that he saw blood run down Brown's shirt, even though Brown had a close range graze wound on the palm of his hand, his DNA was found on the gun and the first shot was fired across Wilson's lap with the bullet becoming lodged in the door panel. All indicating that there was a struggle over the gun. He said that Wilson fired a shot at Brown as he ran, Brown then turned around after he felt the shot, put up his hands as he started to kneel stating that he didn't have a gun before the remaining shots were fired, even though the audio recording of the first 6 shots contains no pause after the first shot and that blood stains 22 feet east of the body proves that Brown moved towards Wilson and the position of the shell casings east of the body indicates that Wilson was backpedaling while firing to prevent Brown from reaching him.. Nice attempt by the creator's of this production to spin Dorian Johnson's testimony to appear credible. Dorian Johnson is a bald-faced liar and the forensic evidence proves it!

[@joshuaoha]

+danger ranger This video did the opposite of what you said. It showed quite clearly that Johnson was not a reliable witness. It's not spin. It's Verbatim what was said. But you are probably a paranoid right winger who thinks the media is "liberal".

[@dangerranger2736]

+joshuaoha Of course the video is spinning the testimony to make Johnson appear like a credible, sympathetic character (and skipping some of his more ludicrous testimony). The prosecutor is also looking at him sympathetically and being curt with Wilson. The actual words may be verbatim, however, the actors can attach any mannerisms and inflections that they want to the dialogue. And, who said anything about media being "liberal"? The media may or may not be "liberal", but it was most definitely biased against Officer Wilson.

[@JonSmith-qz1zu]

+danger ranger Lol serious? Screeching tires don't necessarily leave visible skid marks.

[@JonSmith-qz1zu]

I didn't try refuting all of the evidence..I'd only attempt to if I had access to the raw data and spent the time to formulate an analysis of what I thought happened. But even then, the physical evidence isn't fully conclusive, and you can't rely on witness testimony on either side..but you gotta keep it real.

[@dangerranger2736]

+Jon Smith Yeah, the physical evidence is as conclusive as you can get without actually seeing the event on video. The fact that every piece of evidence corroborated Wilson and the witnesses that backed him up, tells us that he was telling the truth. Conversely, it is a FACT that the EVIDENCE made it perfectly clear that Johnson, et al, were a bunch of bald-faced liars. You can go back and study the evidence and compare it to the witness statements, if you want, however, just read the DOJ report that did the same task and came to the same conclusion that Wilson was credible based on the evidence. He could not be indicted because there was not one shred of evidence that contradicted his testimony or one credible witness who could be relied upon to testify against him. In this country, we don't indict people without evidence, as many disgraceful people have been clamoring for in this particular case.

[@blackjesus9687]

Hey! That lawyer asking questions is "Crazy Eyes" Susan from Orange is the new black

[@MikeSmith-hf5jc]

I feel this deeply!

[@the-ravensgirl8931]

Right like why? Why did it go dwn like that? Smh 1min

[@piglizzle1402]

I know right! Why did Michael Brown assault the hero officer Darren Wilson like that? Why did he request the hero officer Darren Wilson's service weapon to play him an eternal lullaby tune?

[@Tajagee123]

Painful 😣

[@LovelyLori193]

Wow seeing lakeith deliver some of his lines almost got my crying at work. Incredible video

[@WilfChadwick]

Should have picked a black alfa guy to play the cop. The Black Community needs positive role models, especially after this 'murder'

[@Steve_Hayden]

This was well done

[@napischu]

What's Op-Docs?

[@tesla9632]

2 years later... but op-docs are opinion documentaries

[@Kristmaz808]

Uzo sound like oprah...

[@victornunya3302]

She's from Orange is the New Black "Crazy Eyes"

[@junkmail5361]

I’m a black woman. And I do not think Darrin is a racist. The whole thing is just a terrible instance. Is whole thing ruined darrin and Michael died because of this whole situation.

[@skenzyme81]

The series faltered with this one. Sticking with the transcript verbatim is what makes the concept so compelling. Interspersed text shots, flipping back and forth between witnesses, and dramatic music, are best left to the activists. That said, the topic chosen was a good one. This performance really demonstrated why the Grand Jury reached the decision it did. There were conflicts in the accounts, and only one side was contradicted by evidence, therefore the testimony of the false witness, however sympathetic, was rightfully disregarded.

[@jgizzy]

+Sean Kelly "...only one side was contradicted by evidence..." That pretty much says it all as far as I'm concerned. Well put.

[@rianczer]

Sean Kelly Yeah, it's kind of missing what I feel is the entire point of the "Verbatim" series by editorializing the flow of events (the testimonies)

[@volodyanarchist]

If there were a person who was accused of killing a cop, would a prosecutor invite that person to give their side of the story to grand jury?

[@CriscDogs22]

VolodyA! V Anarhist yes. There have been instances of cops doing raids on wrong houses, not announcing themselves, being shot or killed, and the victim/perpetrator getting off. That’s why cops have a strict code to follow now.

[@denismateopeofart226]

This da guy from the show Atlanta right?

[@jq2212]

Yeah

[@shoopshoop2399]

Acting in the film, Uzo Aduba before we ever really heard of her. Excellent. As to the shooting: well, that escalated quickly. One minute? BTW, Wilson was 6 ft. 4 inches and weighed 215 lbs, so he wasn't a little guy. "Big Mike" was bigger, but he didn't have a gun.

[@MCWhiteout1]

Nobody ever talks about Wilson’s size, ever.. appreciate this.. not only was Wilson a big man, but had 10 years on Mike (grown man strength), and was a trained officer, so there’s a certain level of physicality to his life that is more than the average human, and for him to say the punches in his face almost killed him seen pretty far fetched considering he face had not blood or bruises on it

[@THEREALSOURCE]

@@MCWhiteout1 good point.

[@iAmerica1776]

@@MCWhiteout1 he was also sitting in his car, a very vulnerable position, and a single well placed punch can very easily knock someone out

[@Enigmatik007]

There’s always 3 sides to every story... Victim story Defender’s story The Raw Truth!

[@blahblahblaney]

Wild that you said victim/defender instead if victim/perpetrator...

[@lolOloveOlol21]

Uzo Aduba (Suzzanne/ Crazy Eyes) and Lakeith Stanfield????

[@vivianchairez955]

Johnson’s testimony was so sweet I almost went in to a diabetic coma 😂😂😂😂

[@noeraldinkabam]

Crazy Eyes?

[@genesismyers9732]

They should do this for every public case.

[@hens0w]

Lets put cameras in court

[@jrmoiney]

the music though!

[@benisrael5169]

Where’s the video of the incident with Brother, Michael Brown & the officer?

[@tammymcpherson9982]

I am going to make a comment, and I am respectful of both sides, so my purpose is not to offend anyone involved with the case. I believe that humans are culpable, and that it is very easy to misinterpret another person’s intentions. We all have our own mannerisms, and our own way of expressing our emotions. These differences make it very easy to misunderstand a person’s true intentions, and this fact is exacerbated by preconceived notions such as “guilt by association”. This is a factor that leads both sides to become defensive, and to assume the worst. Ex. The officer might assume that he is going to have trouble with a suspect based on their appearance, or body and verbal language, which might cause the officer to associate this person with another suspect that the officer had previously encountered, which had a negative outcome. The officer might associate the suspect with drugs due to seeing that the suspect is holding a handful of cigarillos. And the same can happen with the suspect that the officer is encountering. The suspect may have had what they considered to be an unfair interaction with a police officer, so the suspect automatically assumes that this police officer’s intentions are nefarious as well, simply because they are in uniform and belong to the same association, “law enforcement”. There are so many factors involved with a police officer and a civilian. I think that when both parties clash, lines get blurred, and it’s almost impossible to conclude who is at fault, when in fact, both parties share fault. To me, the most important factor in the entire incidence is “intention”. Intention is a huge factor!!! People are imperfect creatures, yet they all want to justify their actions.

[@blahblahblaney]

It's wild how when people say "both sides" they really only mean one side...

[@blahblahblaney]

This was disrespectful af

[@fembot521]

This is why we need body cams on officers, for their protection and ours. I bet the truth is somewhere in between both of these accounts.

[@under3089]

The dude who played the officer is an actor for Chicago PD

[@WilfChadwick]

The NYT 2022 director's cut is priceless!

[@luvsilly60]

The eye witness reports are very telling. I encourage people to read them and the autopsy reports.

[@flipu4real]

Memorandum from the FBIwww.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

[@flipu4real]

11:44 oops NYT you probably should have left that part out huh?

[@lakeshaclark8117]

Just robbed a store but y'all were talking about y'all future goals..yeah ok

[@BubbleLight22]

They were never convicted on those charges. So we dont know if they did or not.

[@herpderp297]

@@BubbleLight22 There was a security footage that showed Mike Brown assaulting the store owner and stealing it

[@NonsenseSir]

Margot Madden no he got pumped full of lead because he was charging an officer after attacking that officer.

[@amputeevictory700]

The funny thing is they could have been having that type of a convo because of the guilt of his actions!

[@adamscott5991]

ly wiggins it was a strong armed robbery.

[@cccg5459]

Nonviolent crimes should stay nonviolent. Yes Michael Brown had committed a crime but he didn't deserve to pay for it with his life. This cop escalated the situation. Here's how it could of gone differently : the cops stops the pursuit, Michael Brown gets away, the cops go and collect evidence from the store get a warrant to arrest Michael Brown. Brown gets his day in court, judge hands down punishment, justice is served. Nobody dies. All this cop had to was take the extra steps and walk away from a situation he knew he was escalating to conflict.

[@cccg5459]

Provoking someone to assault you does not give you impunity

[@JM-cd1cv]

yea u right brown gets day in court serves 10 days in jail and keeps committing these crimes eventually escalating to armed robbery. a person like this(extremely violent obviously) doesnt stop committing crimes

[@maatascended1033]

I never heard of this. And I stay like 5 minutes away from Ferguson.

[@nprvictim2951]

Read a news paper once in a while.

[@cameonashipleftonaplane698]

Gotta be kidding me if you are on planet Earth you heard about this.

[@maatascended1033]

The Atheist Gangstar G I swear people are so slow. Read the sentence above yours..

[@christopherbriggs9526]

Don't vote

[@raytaylor5387]

In this video the officer was hit by mr brown in the left side of face, but in his indictment he said his right side of face.. WTF

[@chrishouser1949]

Brown was reaching through the driver's side door. So he had to have punched the officer in the left side of the face.

[@Arabianknight78]

Brought me to tears 😔

[@billygowhoop]

Is the guy playing Darren Wilson the guy from the movie Flight? He looks just like the guy who played the co-pilot.

[@mrslywwilliams313]

Yes

[@BostonReapers]

Where's the other statements?

[@fergalfarrelly8545]

What kind of guns are they using that only fire ever second or so time you pull the trigger. Or is it the officer who very poorly maintanes his firearm?

[@Crim15]

That happens to glocks when the trigger is pressed without the trigger safety lever isn't pressed as well..

[@kkarx]

From what I understood he held his gun in a way it could not fire.

[@GetOutsideYourself]

Sad. Could have been prevented.

[@dickensdickens3025]

Jonathan Stewart @ Jonathan Stewart yes. Absolutely correct very sad XX that cop fired 12 times and only six actually hit Brown.. police officer should be On administrational training and be sentback to the firing range and get some more practice.

[@shadowofdread7018]

Dickens Dickens In most police shootings, when adrenaline is pumping and their lives are in danger, their actions are so quick that they can’t fully process it until it’s over. There are times where officers think they fire around 4 shots when in reality they emptied their clip due to being scared for their lives. It’s pretty common and there’s not really anything additional training can do about it

[@StefanSochinsky]

@@shadowofdread7018 Unfortunately, it's something that can only be remedied by practice (the difference between knowing the path and walking it)

[@sirving1297]

Ya, don't commit strong arm robbery and then walk back in the center of the road drawing attention to yourself and then when a cop stops you don't reach into the car and start punching him in the face. Very easy situation to prevent.

[@pikachuuprising637]

Ain't that the Dude from Atlanta?

[@jeremimcdonald]

Just watched "sorry to bother you". So cool to see Lakeith Stanfield in this. So effortless and natural.

[@ronhenneberry1496]

"He reached up and grabbed Mike by the throat..." Did that to a 6 foot 4 inch 300 lb guy from sitting in a car.... GO GO Gadget... ARMS!!

[@angelmurchison1731]

Ron Henneberry Mike Brown is leaning into the car to speak with the officer.

[@dash4800]

@@angelmurchison1731 lol why would someone do that. Instant justification to be shot.

[@pommiebears]

Angel Murchison leaning into the car?? What right minded individual does that, puts their head and shoulders into a police cruiser? That makes no sense at all. Was Mike Brown deaf? No. He had no need to have his upper body in that cruiser. The gunshot residue proves where Brown had his hand.

[@Cosigner22]

@@pommiebears ... That's right he had no need to, but did anyways. He's dead because of his own hand.

[@Moment_of_Zen]

We all assumed it was a police "car" but it was actually a surburban style police vehicle. So he would have been at head level reaching out of the vehicle.

[@NxDoyle]

This would have been better, by which I mean more honest, had the choice been taken not to underscore as the testimony reached its climaxes. The quicker cutting was enough. One of the biggest problems with factual crime content is its reliance on fictional crime editing and scoring styles. Dramatic non-fiction content should be left alone, otherwise it's manipulative.

[@Mcmatthew99]

Theft and assault should not lead to the death penalty. But that is essentially what happened here.

[@flipnotrab]

McMatthew99 did you watch the video? This could have ended the “other way” as well. Over what? Stealing $20 worth of junk? “PEOPLE” need to calm down and just face the music when you get caught doing foolish things, not fight or hurt one another. Better yet, don’t do foolish things.

[@Mcmatthew99]

@@flipnotrab I think we are on the same page? Of course this could have ended differently; what I am pointing out is that officers who use lethal force are essentially deciding on the spot that the lesser crimes are worth the death penalty

[@xandro2445]

You cant attack a cop, grab a gun, try and shoot him, and not expect to get shot.

[@flipnotrab]

McMatthew99 yes, you are right. Unfortunately we live in a world where there are ALWAYS “bad apples”. I honestly don’t think this cop was one of them. I live in suburbs of St. Louis and by freak chance I have a “source” at corners office. We were told there were no “rear” entrance wounds on this poor kid and to this day I don’t know why the County Police didn’t provide this info to the public. It doesn’t make sense to this day. This grand jury had a ridiculous amount of “witnesses” put in front of them and 95% of them were found to be not credible. One was even in ATLANTA the day of this shooting! The reliable and credible wittiness ALL said the same thing. Fight in the car, gun shot IN car, kid ran away then turned and “RAN” back at the car. It’s a loss of life that just didn’t need to be over something stupid. People just need to respect people, regardless of race, job, or whatever. Last thought. Statistics show that 95-98% of police officers will go their whole career without ever firing a shot.

[@okaro6595]

@@Mcmatthew99 No, once you attack the cop the original crime is irrelevant. The cop has a right to defend himself.

[@jasup2010]

This case should have gone to trial! Bob McCulloch should have assigned another prosecutor to the case, seeing as though his father was a police officer killed by a black man. It is not a stretch to say he had bias in this case.

[@bronevaya]

great job but I wish I could see actual footage of the real testimony (if it exist). This is played by actors, the real individuals would be more telling.

[@kentamitchell]

Grand jury testimony is transcribed, not filmed or tape recorded.

[@Cosigner22]

The dialogue alone is telling enough. I feel bad for Officer Williams having to take another man's life, but he did the right thing.

[@dano911]

@@HWEWSWEW Well put, also, I believe they found marijuana in Browns system. We had seen how Brown had acted in the store moments ago. They keep saying "oh he was only stealing" (first lie by the NYT) he used brute force to commit that robbery at the store. Also, he kept saying he had been shot before, I'm sure not by the police, LOL. However, I just wonder how many people HE HAD SHOT himself before. Lastly, the other witnesses BACKED UP the officer's testimony. I know personally an officer who died when his own gun was taken form him in a struggle....FACT.

[@tessajohnson5220]

@@HWEWSWEW Ghetto people like this? Do you hear yourself. You're literally stripping the humanity from someone who if they were white you would brush off like nothing

[@jonathansimmons7010]

@@HWEWSWEW why can't you give your opinion without slighting an entire group of people based on stereotypes? You obviously went to school and can express yourself coherently. You have to know on some level how ignorant your comment is.

[@JacobthePoshPotato]

The Daily Wire has an hour and 22 minute version of this sort of thing all verbatim.

[@nettieharris]

Do u have a link

[@AM-rp8xn]

Lakieth Stanfield with the chopsss

[@ngojems]

Get blown away for some cigars

[@hebeforeme]

J Em So sad...but it is not the cigars...it is the lack of respect for life, authorities, self and God. So sad that this kid didn’t have a solid up bringing and didn’t realized the path he was on sooner or later will lead to death. I don’t know his story, but I can almost ensure, he didn’t have a good father figure. So so sad. 💔

[@ngojems]

Eileen Morales I hear ya it really is sad. 💔

[@Znwarp]

If nothing else, this was a case of pretty good witness preparation. Both sides had their ducks lined up nicely, with the testimony corroborating the evidence.

[@jogiff]

Znwarp Dorian Johnson testified that Mike Brown hadn’t grabbed the gun but that is pretty conclusively disproven by forensics.

[@xandro2445]

@@jogiff of course dorian would say that he didnt grab his gun lol

[@chrishouser1949]

Actually no. All of the evidence proved that the the friend of Mike Brown was was a complete liar. At 1st he said that Mike Brown was shot in the back. Then he said he had his hands up as as in "my hands are up don't shoot." All of the forensics and all of the other eye witnesses proved that he was lying.

[@sunshizzleyou]

The indifference to robbing a small business and aggressive and intimidating demeanor of Brown shown in the tangible evidence directly prior to the incident with Wilson, kind of makes me hesitant that Brown and his friend were merely talking about life goals and dreams innocently walking down the street. Okay, maybe goals of how many blunts they’d smoke that day..

[@RetroMonkey1999]

According to Wilson it was threatening and intimidating. But what would be the difference if they were actually talking about smoking blunts etc? I lived in Ferguson/Jennings MO when I was 22 and spent plenty of time discussing plans to smoke with friends that night. Yet somehow I strongly suspect that if it was me, a young white person seen engaging in that behavior (which is nearly ubiquitous in that area) Wilson's interaction with me wouldn't have ended up with me shot like a dog in the streets. Whatever TF they were or were not talking about while walking should have zero impact on an officer's decision to not only use deadly force but extremely excessive deadly force. But even if they manage to refrain from shooting your that police force is NOTORIOUS for targeting young people, especially young men and especially young black men and taking all manner of interactions way too far with physical force.

[@unclefester9113]

At the current level of contempt from both sides - we have a mix of circumstances that will ensure these events will continue and inevitably escalate. No respect for law and order - will all of us much less safe. Why is it ? Why are there no leaders on either side to speak some restraint to each side !!! Crazy..... It all turns in less than one minute. 60 Seconds. How many milliseconds. If the entire culture - on EACH side is jam packed tense with Anger Rage Tension and gunpowder.... How do you think this is going to end up ?

[@augnkn93043]

Why didn’t they have an actor playing Michael Brown. I’d have loved to hear his testimony. 🤣

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

The crazy thing is, they both probably told the truth to the best of their ability.

[@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165]

The way this was edited at the beginning had me thinking: "Oh no. i CLEARLY over-reacted ! Why didn't they show us this?" (Darren & Dorian's stories both matching up.) Then, i remembered: Oh yeah. 12 rounds. 6 shots. None in the back. No indictment. Over cigarellos. smh.. i wonder if Darren is still working? If Dorian got the future he was talking about. . .

[@pommiebears]

Alysia Mer David-Wasser it wasn’t over cigarillos. It was because Mike Brown attacked Wilson in the cruiser. Yes, the cigarillos got Wilsons attention....but, what happened afterwards, was something else. I think people have a knee jerk reaction to these incidents, it’s normal. What I like to do now though, is not listen to a word the media says. I do my own research and I put feelings aside. Can’t trust the media.

[@adamscott5991]

Dorian selling dope and catching charges so yeah probably what they were talking about

[@isaiahbangura4421]

@@pommiebears Even the store owner said that he didn't steal anything

[@dispensethecredulous3634]

@@isaiahbangura4421 are you kidding? It was on video as clear as day. Please do not degrade yourself. Think freely

[@colawhite1976]

He still didn't need 2 die. I feel the officer could've handheld it better. & why no video

[@daizydgmailcom]

He still didn’t need to Attack an Officer and start beating on him while he is trapped in the car and He still didn’t need to grab the gun and try to take it away from a Cop and he still didn’t need to keep going after him after he was Told to get on the Ground. All gunshots hit Michael from the Front when he was coming after the Cop. You are Right Michael Did Not Need to get Shot or Die.

[@nahdataintit4984]

I thought that was Keith. Good acting as always

[@Eldiablo30Oslo]

Very good dramatisation, but the case itself leaves me wondering how a pedestrian traffic encounter turned suspected shoplifting, ends up with someone dead. Only in America - a country that never ceases to surprise me.

[@everett8811]

Because a almost 300 pound man started swinging on and officer and trying to take his gun and the officer had to shoot to save his life. That's how.

[@LoreReloaded]

I appreciate it being Verbatim, but I could do with out the obvious attempts through the camera work and music to bias the entire affair.

[@GailBecker-MSED-CM-Author]

This is not exactly what the anonymous neighbors and the store owner said, verbatim.

[@cquiroz7874]

According to the court transcripts, it in fact is.

[@jamesward1210]

Well I'll be damned if now Dorian Johnson isnt the RZA on Hulu's Wu Tang An American Saga

[@claytonwhitehead4341]

Its not different dude RZA is played by the guy on Equalizer 2.. this guy was in ATL, and get out

[@Reese3479]

Lakeith Stanfield before he was famous

[@politereminder6284]

After listening to the testimonies on this case, I realize that this was not about one incident, but about poor police-community relations over a long time. That young man lost his temper after years of community harrassment by the police. That day, he was just fed up. The police officer began the whole interraction with rudeness and aggression. Whereas Brown should not have returned that aggression, twelve shots is a lot. Edit: I have learned that people in headlocks with restricted Airways have an adrenaline rush that causes flailing and involuntary movements similar to a drowning. Brown could have been having such a reaction when the cop thought he was attacking

[@StefanSochinsky]

Involuntary flailing that coincidentally punched the officer in the face and grabbed his gun... Right...

[@politereminder6284]

@@StefanSochinsky Where is the evidence of gun grabbing? where are the fingerprints? You want this cop to be in the right so badly. the DOJ wrote a damning report on police culture and practices in fergeson after this incident. they did an intensive investigation into Police brutality, racially motivated behaviour of police, and poor priorities on the part of the department that led to the uprisings in Fergeson. What you believe wont change the truth.

[@politereminder6284]

@@StefanSochinsky so, your resoponse to a punch is to shoot 12 times? I hope your neighbours know.

[@mikesweeny4360]

Wow wtf wearing a black shirt but in all the other news videos it's him wearing a white shirt and when the store owner called he said guy in white shirt

[@brandonjohnson2493]

Don’t reach for a cops gun

[@kiara198923]

Lakeith is such an great actor!

[@toddbrothers1520]

Ya right they were talking about the Bible study they were heading to when all of the sudden the cops showed up and shot us .

[@bryanduke1973]

No they were on their way to go paint churches and feed the homeless.

[@illeatthat]

"Trapped in my car" Bro just drive.

[@johnkelly7713]

considering this is NYT it was fairly balance. hindsight is one thing but in the moment the cop has to try to control the situation. some policeman are better at it then others. there are about 680,000 policeman trying make difficult decisions in seconds. look up paul haveys "policeman" its 2 minutes long and a little dated but very good.

[@clementrowe9325]

They were talking about their future, walking down the double yellow line with stolen Cigarillos? kk

[@JayyChildish]

Clement Rowe he didn't steal them smh

[@pedrogonzalez5741]

Amandababey & Jayy yes he did. It on video.

[@Doggonit]

They were most definitely stolen.

[@pedrogonzalez5741]

kariah debose you are moron!!!

[@coreyblackburn1617]

kariah debose don’t punch cops in the face and there won’t be a problem